The GODS of STAR WARS explained: The Celestials, the Ones (...and the Man who saw them)

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  • Today, we discuss the Gods of the Star Wars Universe, and the man who saw them, and the fate of the Galaxy. All that and more on today's Star Wars Legends Lore video!
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  • @EckhartsLadder
    @EckhartsLadder  4 года назад +329

    Thanks to Corey for suggesting this video. Let's surprise him with an assload of new subscribers. DO IT FOR ME PLS
    ruclips.net/user/coreysdatapad
    Also, half the thumbnail is from MTG. There are no pics of the Celestials, and the pic fits the description well. Link to the artist in the description!

    • @samspeed6271
      @samspeed6271 4 года назад +1

      Just subbed to Corey.
      PS, the video was great.

    • @dwaldpilar9309
      @dwaldpilar9309 4 года назад +1

      Cory does have an awesome channel, thanks for puttin me onto him awhile back

    • @TechnoMinarchist
      @TechnoMinarchist 4 года назад +2

      I covered this subject over at the MawInstallation a while ago. www.reddit.com/r/MawInstallation/comments/ep1473/unknown_regions_celestials_alternative_universes/?

    • @TechnoMinarchist
      @TechnoMinarchist 4 года назад +2

      The Ones are ascended Celestials who gave themselves form again after having ascended, like the Bedlam Spirits.

    • @orendiener8254
      @orendiener8254 4 года назад +4

      Do you play MTG

  • @aceofspadesguy4913
    @aceofspadesguy4913 4 года назад +2640

    “Black battleships who’s spines were stacked with spiked cathedrals”
    I sense the taint of chaos...

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 4 года назад +165

      BURN IN HOLY FIRE!!!!!

    • @DoctorProph3t
      @DoctorProph3t 4 года назад +205

      One black fortress in a galaxy far, far away could do a tremendous amount of damage...

    • @bibires4407
      @bibires4407 4 года назад +61

      Warh ammner 40k, more spiciuficaly imperium of man

    • @ArmouredProductions
      @ArmouredProductions 4 года назад +66

      Oh shit. Call the Inquisition!

    • @SerAstraeusXIV
      @SerAstraeusXIV 4 года назад +53

      THIS HERESY SHALL BE PURGED

  • @BespinGuard1
    @BespinGuard1 4 года назад +1889

    Could you imagine surviving after seeing the history, present state and future of the universe

    • @michaelmcconnell7302
      @michaelmcconnell7302 4 года назад +109

      its wild but you forget most of it almost immediately.

    • @morfealesteban8333
      @morfealesteban8333 4 года назад +45

      Uh yes. Leto the second from dune

    • @FannyPackMan100
      @FannyPackMan100 4 года назад +13

      Why is this comment not pinned?

    • @dietaryfibre6038
      @dietaryfibre6038 4 года назад +44

      Imagine the infinite nothing you would see after the universe fizzled out

    • @ridgefrost
      @ridgefrost 4 года назад +11

      @Joshua Sharwood i was given morphine as an 8 year old child nd other than not feeling pain nothng happened

  • @jonahwoo165
    @jonahwoo165 4 года назад +1692

    One of the gods in the thumbnail is art from Magic the Gathering, me being a giant nerd was like: Star Wars? Magic? What’s happening?

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 4 года назад +17

      Treethegreat yep, that's the name.

    • @nevets5222
      @nevets5222 4 года назад +41

      Eckhartsladder is a Theros fan confirmed

    • @michaelszilagyi4529
      @michaelszilagyi4529 4 года назад +17

      Well, the force is magic. Which is why star wars is a space fantasy not sci fi

    • @jasonalbert6251
      @jasonalbert6251 4 года назад +20

      I run a Kruphix commander deck. It’s a great ramp card advantage hybrid with x spells galore, and perhaps the very definition of a battlecruiser deck. I’ll have to call it the _Praetor Class_ from now on.

    • @Dubrocq
      @Dubrocq 4 года назад +9

      Where are my eldrazi titans

  • @Silverhawk100
    @Silverhawk100 4 года назад +1220

    TFW the Celestials are the writers, constantly pitting billions of souls in endless warfare.

    • @khai96x
      @khai96x 4 года назад +125

      So there is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.

    • @Fargoth_Ur
      @Fargoth_Ur 4 года назад +53

      I like that idea. Reminds me of how Kirby is the "God" of Marvel, or the concept of CHIM in the Elder Scrolls. Or the Old Ones from Cabin in the Woods.

    • @l1ghtd3m0n3
      @l1ghtd3m0n3 4 года назад +10

      Fargoth Ur The Old Ones are Lovecraft, iirc.

    • @oomphlagwumpla650
      @oomphlagwumpla650 4 года назад +18

      They’re the writers in the beginning of the movie

    • @Silverhawk100
      @Silverhawk100 4 года назад +19

      Wait, you mean nobody cleans those words up? They're just floating out in space where anybody can crash into them?

  • @scottishbananaclan
    @scottishbananaclan 4 года назад +1542

    You forgot the Gonk droid

    • @girlyknight8817
      @girlyknight8817 4 года назад +46

      Ya the deity of the gonk driods

    • @Brick_One_A_Lego_Story
      @Brick_One_A_Lego_Story 4 года назад +27

      Gonk!

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 года назад +30

      Girly Knight if I wanna be honest here, from the lore source I found, there were for sure good and evil droid gods in the ancient Star Wars galaxy. So if the Celestials wanted to, they could make Gonk Droid a god for droids everywhere 😂

    • @hobbesgoblin2691
      @hobbesgoblin2691 4 года назад +23

      You laugh now, but their is litteraly a religion in star wars following them

    • @lordtoademort8124
      @lordtoademort8124 4 года назад +12

      Heil the mighty gonk

  • @isakisak9989
    @isakisak9989 4 года назад +976

    Kinda sick when you realize that Anakin could have become stronger than them all if he decided to stay on Mortis, and thus vader would have never existed and the galaxy would not go to ruin.

    • @davidordaz5251
      @davidordaz5251 4 года назад +11

      Isak Isak true

    • @charlestaylor253
      @charlestaylor253 2 года назад +28

      The Mortis, the Merrier. Oh well...😞

    • @deltax8202
      @deltax8202 2 года назад +63

      Imagine
      Ascended Anakin Skywalker vs Abeloth
      Of course ascended Anakin is Anakin if he stayed on Mortis

    • @pauloricardo-wn6ps
      @pauloricardo-wn6ps 2 года назад +54

      ''vader would have never existed and the galaxy would not go to ruin''
      vader was the chosen one and the one who killed palpatine dude

    • @kemj9
      @kemj9 2 года назад +42

      @@pauloricardo-wn6ps assuming the Jedi found out who Sidious is Mace would finish him

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 4 года назад +714

    Last time I was this early, the Celestials weren't a dying race.

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 года назад +43

      Josh they never even died. They were forced to leave the current galaxies alone to work with the rest of the universe since all sapient organic loss their grace eons ago. And it is possible to kill a Celestial (Typhojem and The Cult of Five did) but its impossible to destroy them...

    • @JoshdaKnight
      @JoshdaKnight 4 года назад +6

      I still enjoyed the joke bro

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 года назад +15

      @ivan ivanovitch ivanovsky the Celestials had already departed the living realm by the time The Infinite Empire started its first interstellar conquests. The Rakata waged war with the Celestials' "Firstborn" races and The Firstborns' very own genetically engineered offspring races. The Rakatan species themselves are evil mutants created from abducted Gungans on their homeworld of Lehon that were forever transformed via genetic experimentation by Cold Danda Sine (a fallen celestial child) in the depths of Otherspace; an abysmal alternate dimension.
      The Celestials were forbade by "The Supreme Maker" to dwell with their fallen creations after they turned away from them in favor of sin and warfare. The Rakata and other terrible races that came to inhabit the galaxy all those eons ago were usually unholy abominations made by Cold Danda Sine and released upon the normal galaxy to sow chaos and death to the Celestial crafted universe.
      Through the jealousy and simmering hatred of Tilotny, the curious and morally indifferent Cold Danda Sine, the apathy of Horliss-Horliss, and the naivete andintellect of Splendid Ap, the galaxy and universe would fall into disarray and eternal strife. Forever would there be war among the stars; at least unti the Greater Restoration. For tend of thousands of years if heinous and supernatural warfare would wage across the galaxy and be known collectively as The Cosmic Wars. History of this conflict and its influence across the galaxy and the greater universe would devolve into myth and legend just a few millennia after it had ended at the hand of a divinely transformed Horliss-Horliss.
      By the time of The First Alsakan Conflict history on The Cosmic Wars was all but lost to time so by the time of The Galactic Empire almost all knowledge of the terrible ancient conflict was gone. Only those who had the strongest of mental fortitude and went to the greatest of archaeological researching could unearth the long forgotten tales of The Cosmic Wars and what unholy dangers lurked beyond the veil of percieved reality...

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 года назад +5

      @ivan ivanovitch ivanovsky I knew you'd start going off about this. Good; shows you have interest in the topic. Okay, if you'd be so kind as to read the entirety of this (sadly unpublished) Star Wars novel I'd be eternally grateful.
      Link is here -> www.starwarstimeline.net/Supernatural_Encounters.htm
      This novel details the very beginning of the Star Wars universe, its early history and nicely ties up several (but not all) loose ends that plagued Legends. If you're a lore guys then this should be a quite enjoyable read. If not and you like simpler explanations of things and events then this will be quite the complicated ride. Also a fair warning, Joe Bongiorno's writing style takes influence from H.P. Lovecraft. Lots of adjectives 😄

    • @FannyPackMan100
      @FannyPackMan100 4 года назад +2

      @@blackshogun272 And where did you get this information?

  • @trevorp8124
    @trevorp8124 4 года назад +524

    Battleships with cathedrals on em?
    Warhammer crossover?

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 4 года назад +48

      "There is no mercy for those who oppose the Imperium of Man" - some space marine, M41.

    • @RestlessRebel
      @RestlessRebel 4 года назад +13

      @@robertnelson9599 *Doom Slayer arrives*

    • @KapnKrowe
      @KapnKrowe 4 года назад +20

      Pius Dea Crusaders cathedral ships reference, most likely. After all, they never were found after their blind mass jump to hyperspace

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 4 года назад +8

      @@KapnKrowe Imagine a story where someone found the ships, and they were full of the descendants of the original crusaders, indoctrinated into their xenophobic ways with no hope of being reconciled.

    • @gustavbonow5416
      @gustavbonow5416 4 года назад +5

      @@robertnelson9599They weren't in one place, they were randomly scattered throughout the galaxy to prevent anyone from getting them together. Good luck finding them in the void.

  • @KingArthur39
    @KingArthur39 4 года назад +438

    The Celestial are very similar to the Whills that George Lucas was going to introduce in his Sequel Trilogy.

    • @goodmind4940
      @goodmind4940 4 года назад +5

      Are they? Whills were microscopic

    • @Audifaram
      @Audifaram 4 года назад +1

      Thank god it never came to that

    • @Reimastered
      @Reimastered 4 года назад +146

      @@Audifaram All the sequel lovers see anything that would be a different sequel trilogy and go "Thank GOD we didn't have that" as if the sequels are even good

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 4 года назад +7

      Unclear how it would have panned out.
      Also, he kept changing what the Whills were.

    • @alejandrojuarez5640
      @alejandrojuarez5640 4 года назад +14

      @@Reimastered The Whills are way too out there for most people. They're better left out.

  • @AlindBack
    @AlindBack 4 года назад +664

    Shaping galaxies "on a whim" doesn't mean instantly. And I feel like that is an important point to make. If the Celestials /are/ the Force, and we know the Force is always working on its own machinations, then it seems likely that the Celestials are only all-powerful in the grand scheme of things, but not so much in the minute-to-minute minutia of the universe.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 4 года назад +31

      Also, it is an accelerated view of time...

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 года назад +50

      AlindBack yeah, even in the deep lore it isn't stated that they created very thing just by thinking of it and it being there. They warped the raw cosmic material of the universe over eons until the current universe resembled their original one...

    • @cancelanime1507
      @cancelanime1507 4 года назад +44

      So the celestials are living space magic then..

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 года назад +34

      @@cancelanime1507 to sum it up quickly and kinda precisely, yeah 🤣

    • @aceundead4750
      @aceundead4750 4 года назад +5

      @@cancelanime1507 you look rather alive for being a ghost

  • @justiN-050
    @justiN-050 4 года назад +74

    Abeloth was crazy cool to read about in Fate of the Jedi. great series.

  • @yokgor4675
    @yokgor4675 4 года назад +211

    You forgot the most powerful of them all, the High Ground

    • @sohums.6107
      @sohums.6107 3 года назад +6

      Imagine jar jar on high ground

    • @parklez3250
      @parklez3250 2 года назад +9

      @@sohums.6107 Our power combined is too overpowered

    • @sohums.6107
      @sohums.6107 2 года назад +3

      @@parklez3250 it would be outrageous, and unfair!

    • @mfirdanhb
      @mfirdanhb 2 года назад +5

      @@sohums.6107 Not even abeloth is THAT evil

    • @viktorjoachimmoscoso6327
      @viktorjoachimmoscoso6327 2 года назад +4

      Abaloth is the high ground incarnate

  • @joesmeeth4459
    @joesmeeth4459 4 года назад +79

    EckhartsLadder or as the subtitles say "Our carts leather"

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 года назад +3

      Joe Smeeth yeah, my subtitles were going wild...

    • @sanjeevan9831
      @sanjeevan9831 3 года назад

      *Soviet Theme Intensifies*

  • @bobisconsumed520
    @bobisconsumed520 4 года назад +183

    I always imagined the Star Wars gods being a combo of Halo Precursors and Marvel’s Abstracts.

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 4 года назад +6

      Same.

    • @TechnoMinarchist
      @TechnoMinarchist 4 года назад +8

      They're more like Star Gates Ancients.

    • @TechnoMinarchist
      @TechnoMinarchist 4 года назад +1

      I covered this subject a while ago over at the MawInstallation www.reddit.com/r/MawInstallation/comments/ep1473/unknown_regions_celestials_alternative_universes/?

    • @PackHunter117
      @PackHunter117 4 года назад +3

      Who is more powerful the Celestials or the Precursors?

    • @TechnoMinarchist
      @TechnoMinarchist 4 года назад +9

      @@PackHunter117 The Celestials literally transcended the mortal world.

  • @lightspeedvictory
    @lightspeedvictory 4 года назад +442

    Did the Yuuzong Vong hav compromised immune systems due to being “caged up” on ships for thousands of years? Were they ever affected by the germs, viruses, bacteria, etc. of the Star Wars galaxy when they invaded (not counting bioweapons like the Alpha Red virus)? #askeck
    Video suggestion/request:
    X-83 Twintail vs. Tie Defender (Legends)

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 4 года назад +58

      Considering the Vong's ships were alive and their warriors were biologically engineered, I doubt it.

    • @eds1942
      @eds1942 4 года назад +44

      Yeah, they are living things. All of their tech is living, so all of it should be dependent on some form of immune system. Their armor, at least, had an allergic reaction to Bafforr tree pollen. But, the Yuuzhan Vong quickly developed antigens for most of their most obvious ailments, the ones and there stuff that didn’t, likely died off.

    • @eds1942
      @eds1942 4 года назад +25

      One point to consider is that they scouts checking out the GFFA going back to about 4000 bby. So it’s possible that they secretly gathered samples from across the galaxy to beef up their immunities.

    • @TechnoMinarchist
      @TechnoMinarchist 4 года назад +26

      The Vong were from a different galaxy. They had no immune system built up to fight the viruses and diseases native to the star wars galaxy.

    • @evilestmonkeey
      @evilestmonkeey 4 года назад +29

      @@TechnoMinarchist but they were bioengineering masters so they understood the ideas and could work out how to avoid it.

  • @HylianSith920
    @HylianSith920 4 года назад +67

    "A God has no family." -Valkorion

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 года назад +13

      PolillaBenG I love how wrong he actually is. His ego by the "end" of his life was so big it could engulf entire sectors 😂

    • @jakobrenner2230
      @jakobrenner2230 4 года назад +9

      @@blackshogun272 He was in denial: he could sense himself fading from existance and was unwilling to accept that anything so "beneath" himself could cause his ultimate demise. So he called himself a God as a way to reject his own mortality even when dying.

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 года назад +2

      @@jakobrenner2230 but I'm not gonna lie, he went out like a savage and with a bang...

    • @Sn1ffko
      @Sn1ffko 4 года назад

      @@jakobrenner2230 When was he fading?

    • @jesterknight3837
      @jesterknight3837 4 года назад +1

      Olympus family

  • @jackolantern147
    @jackolantern147 2 года назад +22

    I would love to see a detailed account of the war of the Celestials. Where the father of light and Nakhash the father of shadows led their forces of Celestials, bedlam spirits and mortals in a essentially a galaxy wide silmarillion. Now that would be cool.

  • @davidbriar990
    @davidbriar990 4 года назад +741

    Where is Jar Jar. I know for a fact he's a god or celestial being of some sort

  • @whydoyougottahavthis
    @whydoyougottahavthis 2 года назад +4

    My gosh, the introductory to the book was one of the most interesting literary foreshadowing examples I've ever seen, using every technique and inventing a few new, good job whoever did it

  • @Arashmickey
    @Arashmickey 4 года назад +117

    Yeah don't forget the shiniest deity of them all: Goldenrod

  • @MrDarchangelomni
    @MrDarchangelomni 4 года назад +292

    Soooo does anyone else wonder how the fuzzy white ice yeti got Luke's feet to freeze into the ceiling of the cavern in Empire?
    LOL #AskEck

    • @davidcurtis7236
      @davidcurtis7236 4 года назад +92

      Yeti Jizz

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 года назад +10

      David Curtis disgusting...

    • @davidhonez8859
      @davidhonez8859 4 года назад +34

      @@blackshogun272 does wampa urine sound better?

    • @neoknight9180
      @neoknight9180 4 года назад +28

      BlackShogun 27 D I S C O S T A N G

    • @rawhidelamp
      @rawhidelamp 4 года назад +22

      @@neoknight9180 which one uf yuz forgot how to flush the toilet after they've had a S H E T?

  • @bustamanteus
    @bustamanteus 4 года назад +25

    Finally someone talks about celestials Best star wars youtuber ever

  • @justnoah2073
    @justnoah2073 4 года назад +166

    Gods of Star Wars
    1# Dexter Jexter
    2# Watto
    3# Obi-Wan Kenobi
    4# Jar Jar Binks
    5# Admiral Ackbar
    They where here the whole time and we didn't know it. They helped all the characters through there journeys.

  • @johnhmaloney
    @johnhmaloney 4 года назад +63

    Teshik's speech makes me wonder if he'd seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion or watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. 🙄

    • @SymbioteMullet
      @SymbioteMullet 4 года назад +14

      But all these memories will be lost, like nerfherders in a sarlacc...

  • @sebastianschumann4744
    @sebastianschumann4744 3 года назад +44

    Imagine what reaction george lucas would have had if, while writing the script, known what the galaxy he is creating will evolve to.

  • @iforgotwhyimhere2354
    @iforgotwhyimhere2354 4 года назад +291

    I'd say "Nice vid" but I haven't watched it yet.
    Edit: After nearly a year of thinking. It's not half bad.

  • @eds1942
    @eds1942 4 года назад +35

    The Ones are anthropomorphic manifestations of the Force itself.
    And I think that the Celestials are representative of multiple pre-historic Type 1 civilizations going back possibly billions of years.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 11 месяцев назад

      Wait, the Celestials are just advanced civilizations going back in time, you think?

    • @eds1942
      @eds1942 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@thalmoragent9344 From what we know about them, they qualify for a Type III civilization. Quite literally. Not just like galactic civilizations that we see in Star Wars and Star Trek and others. But, a civilization that can basically do whatever they want, including collapsing the cores of stars from across the Galaxy, creating your own Star systems and setting up galactic barriers, and all in such a way that modern galactic civilization can only wonder about.
      What I’m proposing is that what they mean by Celestrials might just be refer to all pre-historical type III civilizations that not only left their tech or evidence of their tech that’s far beyond them, behind, but also that they have no knowledge of who or what they were.
      I mean, I know that this takes place “A Long, Long Time Ago…”. but the ingredients and conditions for life as know it just here on Earth date back at least 3.5 billion years, for the universe it dates back to about 7.5 billion years ago with a short period within the 1st one billion years after the beginning where the ambient temperature of space itself was “room temperature” and oxygen is the 3rd most abundant element in the universe and readily bonds with hydrogen. Meanwhile the oldest peoples and that know about only date back to about a million years, perhaps only a few million years in regards to ‘the Ones’. To put it another way;
      The history of Galactic civilization dates;
      2.5*10^4 years.
      + 1.2*10^4 yrs for the pre-Republic, pre-Jedi era.
      What they know about who they call the Celestials;
      X*10^6 years
      For life in the universe;
      8*10^9 years with a small chance at
      13*10^9
      And artificially, it’s theoretically possible to extend the years of your civilization into the future by;
      X*10^36 years if you are willing to live around the supermassive or ultramassive blackholes in the center of your Galaxy. With your only light source being completely artificial beyond maybe a few low mass stars that your people created since the last natural stars died out X*10^15 years after the beginning. And you could possibly extend that span to the next best thing to infinity if you are creative and willing to upload all of your people into a simulation with a crazy high time dilation.
      So I don’t see the problem with saying what and who they mean by ‘the Celestrials’ might be an agglomeration of all prehistoric civilizations that left advanced tech behind. And being opportunistic scavengers, it’s quite possible that the Rakata might not have invented hyperdrive as we give them credit for. It’s just that the modern hyperdrive was based off their version of the tech, since earlier FTL is possible in Star Wars and earlier people’s obviously got around the Galaxy somehow.
      I’ve always had a problem with how short most SciFi extends back in time. And then we get to series’ ‘Mass Effect’ where ‘the Reapers’ as we know them were created at least a billion years ago. Or like ‘the Expanse’ and we have an ancient Type III civilization on the scale like the Celestrials called ‘the Builders’ who date back at least 5 billion years and went extinct 1 or 2 billion years back.

    • @bobafett4457
      @bobafett4457 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@eds1942exactly, the rakata were only 50k years before the movies

    • @eds1942
      @eds1942 9 месяцев назад

      @@bobafett4457 ~36k to 27k. Or about the time the Force users that developed into the precursor of the Jedi Order where on Tython.

    • @bobafett4457
      @bobafett4457 9 месяцев назад

      @@eds1942 goddamn it you're right, idk how I got this wrong I read the comics last week lol. Anyway, in our terms 30+k years is a lot but in star wars idk why but it feels like not so much

  • @macwelch8599
    @macwelch8599 4 года назад +61

    The beings of Mortis were awesome

    • @Jengle
      @Jengle 4 года назад +4

      Had just rewatched those Clone Wars episodes, saw the thumbnail, and was so like "let us gain more understanding." 😂

    • @TSPH1992
      @TSPH1992 4 года назад +1

      They had the best arc in the whole show

  • @AaronJ180
    @AaronJ180 3 года назад +3

    That doggo ending though

  • @Theology.101
    @Theology.101 Год назад +6

    I’d like to mention that Teneniel’s shrine built in Hapes was around a naturally occurring Force Nexus.

  • @emptylanternmedia2248
    @emptylanternmedia2248 2 года назад +5

    The mortis arc was so epici love the visual storytelling and symbolism

  • @isaiahhighley8959
    @isaiahhighley8959 4 года назад +9

    I’ve always wondered about this topic, thanks eck 😄

  • @IrishPhoenix7
    @IrishPhoenix7 4 года назад +20

    So the grand admiral went through the warp?

  • @starcaller6448
    @starcaller6448 2 года назад +1

    Finally got The Essential Guide to Warfare on my kindle today after watching this video again. Reading the paragraphs you quoted for myself is both awesome and chilling. Can’t wait to see what else is in here!

  • @pogwog5309
    @pogwog5309 4 года назад +19

    stop being humbel eck. you are 100% the best star wars youtuber

  • @memantimemachine
    @memantimemachine 4 года назад +7

    The description of the dude’s vision could be one used to describe a dmt trip and I’d never know

  • @DarthTrivialis
    @DarthTrivialis 4 года назад +27

    War. War never changes.

  • @julianmasciocchi6348
    @julianmasciocchi6348 4 года назад +6

    Supernatural Encounters explains that the Ones were Celestials which incarnated into physical forms so they could guide the galaxy, while the rest of the Celestials remained in their own realm & only left to combat the forces of Dark Illathurion due to the Galaxy’s inhabitants largely abandoning their teachings.

  • @bamboozle23k
    @bamboozle23k 2 года назад

    Love the fact that if I'm interested in knowing something about star wars, I can just search for it and there will be a vid about it from.some channel of many. Your most of the time the one that pops up first, so good job! Still love the vids to this day

  • @lawrencerummel870
    @lawrencerummel870 4 года назад +37

    Guess MTG's Kruphix serves as some thumbnail material for Star Wars xD

    • @shelbycrandell6354
      @shelbycrandell6354 4 года назад +6

      First thing I noticed. Storing some colorless mana, are we?

    • @UltraDonny5000
      @UltraDonny5000 4 года назад +2

      @@shelbycrandell6354 I plan on using it next turn

  • @alexmartin3433
    @alexmartin3433 4 года назад +10

    I saw Kruphix and thought this was another EDH video recommendation in my feed

    • @andrewkenny3544
      @andrewkenny3544 4 года назад +2

      Wait .. this isnt the commander's quarters

  • @spathens8225
    @spathens8225 4 года назад +3

    Ive been waiting for a video like this

  • @Nason599
    @Nason599 4 года назад +1

    i saw the magic the gathering character on the thumb nail and got all sorts of excited that you were including the magic universe in an episode, but still great video as always! been watching since you started out. keep up the amazing content! i also challenge you to do a video on the magic the gathering world and compare it's power to any of the other Nerdom you want

  • @Ponera-Sama
    @Ponera-Sama 4 года назад +20

    The Ones: *Exist*
    The Spirits of Bedlam: I'm about to end this Trinity's whole career

    • @TSPH1992
      @TSPH1992 4 года назад

      Abeloth: "Hold my omnipotent tentacles"

    • @Ponera-Sama
      @Ponera-Sama 4 года назад

      The Spirits of Bedlam>>Abeloth

  • @unitedlunch1609
    @unitedlunch1609 4 года назад +11

    Kruphix, God of Horizons is my favorite Star Wars god

  • @nicholasricardo8443
    @nicholasricardo8443 2 года назад +3

    This reminds me a lot of a quote from the game stellaris, which has a bunch of aspects of it inspired from the star wars universe. You get it in a random event during interactions with the shroud if your empire is psychic,
    "Suddenly, in a painful moment of clarity, the nature of our existence is laid bare. A multiverse where thousands of galaxies like our own are locked in endless cycles of conflict.
    It begins, it ends, and then it begins again. Each time with trillions of lives hanging in the balance.
    "So it is," a voice whispers, "and so it shall always be.""

  • @Jengle
    @Jengle 4 года назад +7

    I loved being able to pull out my essential guide, find the prologue, and read along. Satisfactory...

  • @CountryMusicMann
    @CountryMusicMann 3 года назад +4

    In my personal opinion, I’m a fan of having this lore about ancient cosmic beings in the distant past. It adds a feeling of wonder and depth to the Star Wars galaxy, the sense that not all was once as it is now. At the same time, I wouldn’t be a fan of bringing the ancient cosmic beings into the present time of the Star Wars narrative, as it loses much of the mystery these beings lend the distant past when you can suddenly perceive them for yourself.

  • @kymonkeyboy6844
    @kymonkeyboy6844 4 года назад +20

    I see that mtg art in the thumbnail. I see

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder  4 года назад +13

      yep, I linked it in the description. There are no pics of the celestials, and this pretty much matches their description.

  • @Kasey_Barkle
    @Kasey_Barkle 4 года назад

    One of my favourite videos from you in a while

  • @kristophervanvarenberg526
    @kristophervanvarenberg526 Год назад +1

    - Phenomenal piece of information!!! Awesome!!! Thank you!!!

  • @oooblyjooblies7022
    @oooblyjooblies7022 4 года назад +5

    Ma boi Kruphix in the thumbnail? Could it be? EckhartsLadder using a time-appropriate MTG reference to come out as an MTG player?
    Huzzah!

  • @Vidiocity92
    @Vidiocity92 4 года назад +40

    So the Mortis Gods AREN'T the same as Celestials...I guess that's okay, I never really cared lol, but it's interesting to have the cosmic hierarchy of Celestials, Ones, Force wielders, Bendu, Abeloth, Bedlam spirits, Wozak, whatever else.

    • @TechnoMinarchist
      @TechnoMinarchist 4 года назад +10

      They weren't gods and the beings of Mortis were Celestials who had given themselves form.

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 года назад +3

      Jacen Solo so have you learned this lore from the same source as I ?

    • @TechnoMinarchist
      @TechnoMinarchist 4 года назад +3

      @@blackshogun272 I detail my research here www.reddit.com/r/MawInstallation/comments/ep1473/unknown_regions_celestials_alternative_universes/?

    • @edwinrosario3849
      @edwinrosario3849 4 года назад +7

      Bit of an interesting addition, Wutzek was meant to be a fallen Celestial and ended up creating the Bedlam Spirits which took the form of his negative traits. Tilotny is his vanity, Horliss-Horliss is his remoteness, Cold Danda Sine is his impatience and Splendid Ap is his apathy; apparently it got so bad that he intended to kill them which only made the situation become so much worse.

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 года назад +10

      Jacen Solo Impressive my friend. I went to StarWarsTimeline.com a while back and read Supernatural Encounters and Cult Encounters and the lore/exposition dump is so massive you'll have an aneurism realizing just how much shit really happened in Star Wars Legends 😎

  • @FD_FANATIC
    @FD_FANATIC 4 года назад +2

    Gotta love the retro music in the background

  • @mattdarragh1811
    @mattdarragh1811 4 года назад +19

    And rampaging rhino.

  • @adora_burst8143
    @adora_burst8143 3 года назад +3

    I like this outlook on the Ones, The Celestials are the Cosmic Force so they take on incomprehensible forms, and The Ones are the Living Force split into the Light, Dark, and Balance seen by the living and take on the mortal bodies.

  • @DarkSidePhoenix
    @DarkSidePhoenix 4 года назад +10

    Talks about star wars and uses magic the gathering art. I have new respect for Eck now

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish 4 года назад +86

    Celestials seem just a liiiiittle too Stargate Ancients, especially when the retcons made the Force Family into Celestials

    • @TechnoMinarchist
      @TechnoMinarchist 4 года назад +10

      The Force family are Celestials who gave themselves form, like the Bedlam Spirits. I covered this subject a while ago over at the MawInstallation www.reddit.com/r/MawInstallation/comments/ep1473/unknown_regions_celestials_alternative_universes/?

    • @stargatecommand714
      @stargatecommand714 4 года назад +6

      I always thought it would be cool if someone made a vague reference to the first humans in the Star Wars galaxy coming from the Ancients home galaxy. It's possible, seeing as how both the Gree and Kwa had stargate like travel devices that supposedly (at least for the Kwa) came from Celestial knowledge

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 4 года назад

      Plus, did you read Supernatural Encounters, online? Starwarstimeline.com?

    • @blackshogun272
      @blackshogun272 4 года назад

      chris sonofpear1 oh my God ! Someone else has read that too !? I loved that shit bruh ! That's the lore and stories I've been searching for since the Disney Buyout. But sadly all of their stories pale in comparison to the imaginations of EU writers. Cuz from Jon's novella and article, it proves that all the ugly and good in Legends can be pieced together to make a quite interesting history and story 😎

    • @agentchaos9332
      @agentchaos9332 4 года назад

      DIEGhostfish yeah no kidding not to mention the marvel Race of the same name

  • @ashtonframe8001
    @ashtonframe8001 4 года назад +39

    9 seconds ago...
    Last time I was this early...

  • @tagmata1872
    @tagmata1872 4 года назад +3

    Nice Kruphix for the thumbnail mtg stuff is always welcome

  • @cellokid5104
    @cellokid5104 4 года назад +6

    Oh boy, the left guy on the thumbnail is Kruphix, the god of horizons from Magic the gathering

  • @getawaydance
    @getawaydance 4 года назад +1

    Love this stuff, thank you.

  • @KGBeast.
    @KGBeast. 3 года назад +1

    Would love to see a MOVIE explore this

  • @ridgefrost
    @ridgefrost 4 года назад +11

    I always found it interesting how some character that's seen somethng so insane could remember everything with extreme detail

  • @ThreeProphets
    @ThreeProphets 4 года назад +14

    Has there ever been a character in Legends who didn't realize they were Force-sensitive until much later in life?

    • @ImTheReverse
      @ImTheReverse 2 года назад +7

      Luke Skywalker.

    • @davindeptuck7905
      @davindeptuck7905 Год назад

      Yes! Spoiler for the Knights of the Old Republic comics though.
      Demagol, a Zeltron, was at least 40s-50s with teenage-to-early-20s children of his own when he first consciously used the Force.

  • @Higher-Ground
    @Higher-Ground 2 года назад

    Your my favorite channel that covers both star wars and halo

  • @bloodyneptune
    @bloodyneptune 3 года назад +2

    I have been looking for that Teshik quote for _hours,_ thank you. I forgot who said it, when, the context, and pretty much every word except 'cathedrals'. Its been a long few hours. But I found out there's a Darth Vader gargoyle on a cathedral in Washington. That's cool.

  • @itaybron
    @itaybron 4 года назад +3

    Celestials: the inner machinations of my mind are an aneigma.

  • @PhillyFail
    @PhillyFail 4 года назад +4

    You're in my top 3 star wars youtubers

  • @StormriderSRS21
    @StormriderSRS21 4 года назад

    Love that you used MTG art for Kruphix in your thumbnail art

  • @zachattack1279
    @zachattack1279 4 года назад +2

    I recently finished the mortis ark and I wanted to watch this to find you more but this gave all the same info I already had

  • @Kallistos1
    @Kallistos1 4 года назад +34

    Where is the cool battle scenes in the background from?

    • @Quallenkrauler
      @Quallenkrauler 4 года назад +13

      Battle of the Dreadnoughts -- A Star Wars Short Film

  • @darrinscott6612
    @darrinscott6612 2 года назад +3

    “Black battleships whose spines were stacked with spiked cathedrals”
    No, that's clearly a Warhammer 40,000 reference haha

  • @seraphielprime5092
    @seraphielprime5092 4 года назад

    So... No ones is talking about the awesome 15 second long ending video. I love it.

  • @kitfo18
    @kitfo18 3 года назад +1

    Great video!! Lets just not mention episode 7 8 or 9. I have a strong feeling that they will be removed from the Star Wars official time line in the future if not near future. Amazing work as always!!

  • @moorhen6156
    @moorhen6156 4 года назад +4

    "saw strange ships, and heard them scream and moan"
    **shadow battlecrab has entered the chat**

  • @whisperedflame6952
    @whisperedflame6952 4 года назад +17

    I always thought Kylo Ren and Rey would become the new Son and Daughter, with Anakin assuming the position of the new Father.

    • @prasunkumar117
      @prasunkumar117 4 года назад +14

      Nah Disney ain't smart enough to make new ideas

    • @G59forlife.
      @G59forlife. 2 года назад +1

      Why not luke and leia

  • @awesomemcawesomeshorts9531
    @awesomemcawesomeshorts9531 4 года назад +2

    I liked how Fate of the Jedi tied in with The Clone Wars with the Ones

  • @FurryAzzre
    @FurryAzzre 4 года назад +2

    Love how you use Kyphrix, God of Horizon for the thumbnail

  • @S-Asker
    @S-Asker 4 года назад +6

    Now the question is, did Valkorion ascend to Godhood ?

  • @goroakechi6126
    @goroakechi6126 4 года назад +3

    I believe the Ones are post-death Celestials, kind of like how Martians ascend after death in Stranger In a Strange Land.

  • @cheeseburgerofdeath
    @cheeseburgerofdeath 2 года назад

    Where does the time go ?? I remember watching a bunch of your content throughout the year, still really enjoy the videos

  • @callumstonehouse8407
    @callumstonehouse8407 4 года назад

    God you got me so hyped with that MTG thumbnail... It'd be interesting to maybe see you reach out to that world, if you're interested!!

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 4 года назад +17

    How powerful are Federation Phasers and Protons by the end of the Dominion war since they were updated by alot and were capable of damaging a Borg cube that had already had counter measures because of the first Borg cube that was destroyed. The 20 ships the Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order used in their operation against the Dominion were able to heavily damage the crust layer of the Founders homeworld in the first vale which would of took atleast teratons of destructive output. So are we looking at the Federation's post Dominion weapons over the hundreds of teratons?

    • @rhysdajani3618
      @rhysdajani3618 4 года назад +3

      Thor’s Hammer you are talking about Star Trek wrong fandom.

    • @thorshammer7883
      @thorshammer7883 4 года назад

      @@rhysdajani3618
      Eckhartsladder did Star Trek videos before there's nothing wrong about it.

  • @Neceptus
    @Neceptus 4 года назад +6

    "i heard them scream and moan."
    oh god.

  • @felipealexandre144
    @felipealexandre144 3 месяца назад

    His description of the vision and the parts about war reminds me about Judge Holden's(Blood Meridian) quotes about war

  • @zoom8897
    @zoom8897 3 года назад

    Im glad I’m not the only one who mentioned the fact that the thumbnail has a Magic The Gathering card on the left side lol

  • @nobrac1647
    @nobrac1647 4 года назад +6

    2:06
    My man vibed too hard

  • @weaponizedautism8389
    @weaponizedautism8389 4 года назад +16

    What did he take with him to the void, I wonder. Everyone tell me what y’all think

    • @they_ca11mejude
      @they_ca11mejude 4 года назад +10

      A mouse, black of fur with a tan face. He wore red shorts with white gloves.
      For he was the end of the universe as they knew it.

    • @marcbartuschka6372
      @marcbartuschka6372 4 года назад +2

      Well I guess he saw that the war he has fight in and are already become a victim off would never end. Tjat the circle of violence, victory and defeat would hold this galaxy forever in his grip (as Kreia understand it).

    • @SymbioteMullet
      @SymbioteMullet 4 года назад +1

      The holiday special.
      He took it with him to save us all.

  • @qliphalpuzzle5453
    @qliphalpuzzle5453 4 года назад

    I always loved that prologue

  • @Kai...999
    @Kai...999 11 месяцев назад

    I'm not even a fan of science fantasy but I like your lore videos. The guy who made star wars put a lot of thought into it.

  • @Dartowl1
    @Dartowl1 4 года назад +2

    Actually, if Star Wars is canon in mtg, kruphix may know about it as he is the oldest of the gods on theros’s pantheon and has learned of other plains through hundreds of years of meeting planeswalkers visiting there’s.

  • @jacobdarling1524
    @jacobdarling1524 4 года назад +4

    The interpretation I like to go with is that the closest thing in the Star Wars universe to true god is the Living Force. Essentially meaning that all of life and existence is part of one divine reality. This relates pretty closely to the Hindu and some Buddhist views on the nature of the divine. And since George Lucas loosely modeled the Jedi and their teachings on this sort of eastern spirituality, it seems to make the most sense that the Force itself and therefore the universe as a whole is god.

  • @nutsuloid1887
    @nutsuloid1887 3 года назад

    outro godlike

  • @ianfab79
    @ianfab79 4 года назад +1

    So what was the video of the space battles with the big black imperial ship vs the mon calamari ship going on? That looked cool and I'd really like to know more about it.

  • @lordatom905
    @lordatom905 4 года назад +3

    #AskEck May I ask a question do you think this may :maybe this is how new canon work The Empire continues for a year til the battle of Jakku were sprinted into sub factions some of them form the Imperial remanent others became warlords and other became the first order

  • @corvo1776
    @corvo1776 4 года назад +4

    2:43 This man saw Warhammer 40k early

  • @coieramos1893
    @coieramos1893 Год назад +1

    I like in the thumbnail where on the right, that is kruphix, god of horizons, but other wise, still great video

  • @Dartowl1
    @Dartowl1 4 года назад +1

    People in the Star Wars galaxy: defeat the yuuzong van invasion*
    The eldrazi: “allow us to introduce ourselves.”