Darth mickey, known for tapping into incredibly progrogressive abilities. Noted for his rainbow council of diversity, that enacted his wokeness across the reaches of the galaxy. Any question of his rule was met with immediate victimisation and cancelation. Little is known of his downfall........
I love how bedlam spirits are just like , "Man we just gonna chill here ya know and ignore shit and hang out and bitch at each other like quarreling siblings."
Abeloth is capable of getting stronger as well. Especially when she devours force users. I knew she shouldn`t be top tier, but I thought she would be mid-tier for sure!
@@sleeper.simulant7327 The Father is dead. So, she/it has room to grow. Otherwise, the weakest and most dangerous godlike being in Star Wars vs the strongest mortal, is still a one-sided fight.
Honestly feel bad for the Stormtroopers, to be reconfigured at a Molecular Level, killed, revived and sent back 8000 years in the past just to die on a unknown planet with no hope of escaping
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Imagine if Anakin reached his Full Potential, and ascended in death to a form even higher than his already powerful Force Ghost? Could've been a whole "Force God of Balance", or another, more ghost-like/ethereal Celestial like the Ones on Mortis were.
@@DarksideGmss0513 I doubt that. Lots of people think that Grand master Luke was what Anakin could have been. Or that he would have been a few degrees stronger. Him being as strong as Abeloth would have been ludicrous.
@@90skidcultist Anakin is on the same tier as the Father even possible stronger in terms of force potential, the Father is also stronger then Abeloth. Anakin wins mid to high diff.
@@anakinskywalker3258 The Father wasn't stronger than Abeloth. He needed Daughter and Son to fight her and the only reason she lost was because she didn't got used to her new powers and form yet :/ Even through Anakin is very powerful, he's still a human being and compared to Abeloth his body is much more fragile. He was beaten by frickin Obi-Wan, Doku cutted his hand off. So on Force level - Anakin is powerful as hell. But on the physical side? Abeloth wins.
Bendu: 1:51 The Ones: 3:55 Star Wars version of Silmarillion: 5:42 Star Wars version of Vecna: 6:52 Inside Out emotions: 8:36 Demon thing from Fantastic Beasts: 10:09 Ego from GOTG2: 11:33 Te Fiti, Bill Cipher, Kabuki mask, The Spot: 13:46 The Force: 16:59 The Whills: 17:35
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Now here's an ironic thing dunno anyone else noticed yet... Anakin turning DOWN basically being able to become a Force Being/God... An if chose then probably coulda stayed Good if he REALLY wanted to be. Save Padme almost FOR SURE if really, REALLY wanted at such a level an then probably be able to get away with about whatever he wants so long as he takes said previous "one's" place and does the job. An even Sideous an Yoda wouldn't be able to do a thing about it.. as he TRULY would finally be at their an well above their level of power an ability. Perhaps even being so much younger an stronger then the actual one he replaced in such a hypothetical perhaps he'd even be able to hold his own with even the absolutely worst enemies like Abeloth even. Provided he was sufficiently trained as the true One successor an had a firm grasp of her weaknesses, limits an good idea of her capabilities. But on the other hand perhaps would still need help in such a case. Then again the One, a "one" in training Anakin an "X" Force User vs Abeloth or someone like that would be a interesting match up
Anakin has double lukes potential meaning anakin with both sides is 1/3rd abeloths power. I've calculated it and being a mortis god heightens your midichloran count 314× over, and anakin would end up around 80× abeloths full power.
@@amvcentral9198 so basically those "Ones", which I wonder are connected any to her unintentional creators somehow. They seem similar, maybe common beginning or something like that... woulda finally had someone to outright crush her then in a straight up fight. Seems from what I've heard the only version of Luke that could or WOULD easily best her woulda been Force Being Grandmaster Luke since he became Sentient Force made flesh in that arc. So he'd basically had EVERYTHING possible in that instance an been literally unstoppable against literally anything, ANYONE an EVERYTHING.. I'm not as familiar with the Abeloth VS the SW Galaxy story arc though as I'd like. Disney shoulda tried something like that before going an basically creating alternate reality timelines like they basically went and did
@@JustJoe24 He means the latter. To answer one of his questions though, depending on the timing....If Anakin chose to become the new "Father", then he wouldn't have been around to knock up Padme, so she'd have had no need to be "saved". Since that was his destiny as seen in his dreams, logic would dictate his choice to become the "Father" was never a choice at all. It was already his destiny to reject it.....but I'm guessing at the timeline, it seemed like it was too early in the Clone Wars for her to have already been pregnant.
Great video I’ve always enjoyed the characters that push the omniscient vibe especially because we idolize characters like Luke and Han and stuff when in the grand scheme they’re relatively minuscule in comparison.
I was part of a Star Wars Mandalorian War Legacy Era D&D campaign once and we ran into Abaloth at one point. Dang, that was quite the challenge escaping! I still have no idea how we did. Our GM was so crazy and that made the game so incredibly awesome. Lol
@@daymenpollet4202 Our GM said we did, so yes. She was terrifying. We almost all died right there. Lol. If you aren't familiar with how D&D works, there's one person who runs the game and comes up with all the different scenarios your group might run into. Ours decided to be insane and put us up against Abeloth by having us go too close to the Maw. It was so crazy!
Holy. Shit. That's seriously the nerdiest thing I've ever read 🤣. "I have no idea how we escaped". That's easy. Because the guy making shit up said you did.
Tbh I’d love if the barrier was broken the vong was one of my fav legends run. Also would kill for the aboloth books be made into a show but I know that’s never gonna happen but man image the assault on the jedi temple to retake it from her on the big screen.
I feel as though Abeloth should be placed higher on this list, as while we haven’t seen much of her compared to other characters, what we have seen seems to put her at an unquantifiable level of power, as she has become a Force Aberration, but one that possesses an obscene level of power over the Force. Likely the only thing holding her back is her own mental state, as she is the furthest thing from sane, and were she sane, her power would likely grow much more as she would gain more control. Oh she also dominated what was honestly the strongest generation of Force users the galaxy had seen in millennia, with relative ease despite being outnumbered by around twenty to thirty to one.
@@amvcentral9198 In terms of raw power, we’ve never seen anyone her equal or superior, that is correct, however that knowledge of the Force isn’t nearly as helpful as it could be with her mental state the way it is, as were she sane, she’d likely become a much more dangerous threat as she could then apply her knowledge of the Force to much grander schemes then what she had attempted during the time of Like Skywalker's tenure as Jedi Grandmaster.
@@amvcentral9198 She actually does get stronger over time, though. Especially when she`s devours other beings. Potential, she could be strongest. Who knows...
@@decimation9780 her equal in raw power? Just because certain cosmic beings don’t display such power because they have restraint doesn’t make her more powerful then them, by theory they are vastly more powerful then her, they just don’t need to show it all the time like she does. The father at his prime was probably the most powerful of the living force due to his strict balance, being able to use both sides perfectly. She’s the opposite of balance, chaos. She’s at most prime fathers equal…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 Nope, she’s Prime Father's superior, because after it had been discovered what she had done, the Father, Daughter, And Son has confronted Abeloth, and had proceeded to be completely dominated. The only reason she lost against them was because she was still getting used to her newfound powers and abilities, leading to her being tricked, and then locked away within the Maw. Do remember that she dealt with over a dozen Force users that had been strengthened by constant conflict before Luke dealt her what was believed to be a mortal blow, until he reveals that only the Mortis Blade could even stand a chance at actually hurting her, and he wasn’t even certain that it would do anything to her even if it was used. What you have to remember is that unlike the other entities on this list, she was initially mortal, and she then acquired her powers through desperation, and we’ve seen what mortal Force Users are capable of, and she became immortal after what she did, meaning she has the potential to surpass every single force entity listed in the video simply because even she isn’t fully aware of what she can do. And she’s still out there, biding her time somewhere in the galaxy.
I’m not so sure if Kreia, was trying to destroy it. She mentioned hating it’s influence on all life and wanted to create a wound/sound so grand in scale so as to deafen all life to it.
@@mimru Kreia couldn’t stand how free will within the SW universe was basically nonexistent. Every civilization rises and falls in endless cycles of good vs evil (guided by the force). She wanted to free people from its “guidance” and let them live their own lives.
Yeah it was impossible because Kreia wanting that, is just another character in the infinite playground that is the force, she's also the force, as everyone is, but each person manifests and represents different aspects within it. There's always destiny, tye thing is, there's infinite destinies, as there are infinite versions of ourselves, so, free will, from the people's point of view, would be the power to choose which of the infinite predetermined destinies they will live, depending on their life choices. But from a trascended point of view there's no free will, just characters of a story choosing different, infinite, branching paths that lead to different endings, some longer, some shorter, some happier and some sadder. But you will never "kill" the force, as even the concept of life and death is irrelevant, the force is true infinity, there's no concept rhat can define it, if you ever try to, then you're sadly not talking about the force, as infinity has no limit and no comparison, it just is infinite, without beginning nor end.
To correct you, supernatural encounters is licensed, but lies in between a state of non canon and canon, but there's more proof of it being canon so i would lean towards that side of the argument. the book will be published, so that might change the canonicity of the work.
@The Stupendous wave Thank you, keep up the great work that you do, its much appreciated. Here is 1 of them that you did forgot to mention. To let you know their is the called (Fourth precept) the unknown God being entities of Light and Dark Of Good and Evil from Starwars Legends. They have specialized lightsabers, they can travel into galaxies, universes, and can create Ultra Universes while creating more Fourth precepts. It's in a Starwars Legends audio sound Comic.
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 The Fourth Precept is an artistic representation of the fight between Light and Dark, good and evil. Two figures fight with lightsabers in various ethereal settings. It has no dialogue.
Btw i think since video refers to the bedlam spirits shown in tier 1 maybe the abstract concept of the 4th precepts is why they weren't put in this video tho
Love your vids man, your channel has made me fall in love with Star Wars and now I know a lot of the lore and enjoy watching them daily thank you so much
Mnggal-Mnggal seems like it could possibly be the villain of the Stars Wars Eclipse game, would be cool to see them actually adapt that from legends in a grand way
Interesting video, I enjoyed learning of the few characters that I didn’t know already, and mostly they’re tier 1 characters from The Devilworlds. Very cool.
I really enjoy these type's of videos. I also would like you, when possible, to continue to make these longer videos. I really enjoy your channel so keep up all the good and creative works.
The bedlam spirits just kind of remind me of how with with a lot of early comics. There is just some random wacky thing that happened that never gets brought up again and gets ignored with all future lore. I kind of feel like that's what's supposed to happen with them
The father was never stabbed by the dagger, but died because of Anakin’s lightsaber. It was a distraction to kill the son with it, but the father died because of the saber.
This video makes me think of Ahsoka's line to Ezra. In my experience just when u think u understand the force, you find out how little you actually know. Just when i think i understand Star Wars, i find out how little I actually know. Lol
What about the seed planet of the Vong home world ???.. A sentient force wielding planet . We met this entity when Anikan and Obi-Wan went there when Anikan was still a boy and during the Vong wars it basically ended the war
Great video also if the force is supposed to be immortal how can it "Bleed" because there have been multiple instances in star wars history that the force has "Bled".
Could be in the same way a Wraith from Stargate is "immortal." As long as the Wraith/Force is properly nourished, it won't die of old age and has a significant regeneration rate. Question is, what would the Force feed upon? Lifeforce? Chaos? Could explain some things in a crossover fic with something like Robotech or Halo to explain why the other guys could be in the "same" universe and have never before heard about the Force: in that universe The Force is some kind of galaxy-wide gestalt entity or something that can only exist in one galaxy at a time, or maybe the Galactic Barrier keeps it contained, and the Star Wars people going insane trying to cross it is because they are being affected by the barrier killing the Force Microbes in their bodies. Maybe the "insanity" is also an illusion caused by the Force to try to dissuade people from crossing it because it knows they'll be free from it on the other side.
@@evanboll4651 The concept of the Force as a psychic gestalt controlling a whole Galaxy legitimately unnerves me. Your comment was very thought provoking!
@@eeurr1306 It would explain a great deal, such as there being the whole cycle of Sith and Jedi with no one in-universe being able to consistently remember history. The Force feeds on chaos, so every time it gets hungry it ignites another war between it's newest set of pawns.
Yea, you might think they're powerful; I'm the one who decides if I let them wield that power or even if I allow them to exist at all. LOL. Anyway, I'd like to hear more about the galactic barrier. Might at one time a super powerful race saw what happened and decided to create the barrier as a prison for some reason?
Rakatans make me think that the planting of Kashyyyk The Flood of Manaan The Weapon test on Tatooine Like experiments the Infinite Empire long slaved them until the became all Dark side than the force was depleted from them then a Plague boom the Journal of the Whills talking about a Galaxy with so many stories a constant Star Wars
If their was a supernatural video would it include the yuzhan'tar/vong god's. And side question is there any chance for any yuzhan'vong videos in the near future because I would love to see coverage of my favorite SW race and more detailed coverage of them as well. I think my beloved space masochists need more coverage
I would like to see your take on SE (preferably the Extended Edition once it is published, since it will be over 1,000 pages, as confirmed by Bongiorno just the other day). I want to see how close you actually match up with what Bongiorno, the editors, and I have already discussed. 9:55 Wutzek is more powerful than you are placing him, though you will have to read SE Extended first. He is certainly above the Bedlam Spirits and the Mnggal-Mnggal (with the exception of Horliss-Horliss, who defeated the original Father of Shadows and saved the whole of the Star Wars galaxy). Tilotny is Abeloth in a weakened state. Both Typhojem and the Father of Shadows need to be placed above the Bedlam Spirits (except Horliss-Horliss, arguably) as they are the two greatest threats the galaxy has ever faced. Typhojem, confirmed in Supernatural Encounters to also be called Pomojema, was first introduced in Splinter of the Mind's Eye (for his temple is where Luke and Vader fought). 1:35 That is Ku'ar Danar, aka Darth Dreadwar. Not sure where you are getting "Supreme Maker." Also, Supernatural Encounters is only regarded as non-canon by the Wook, not Lucasfilm. Lucasfilm no longer does licensing for Legends content directly, but it is done through Del Ray publishers, who have worked extensively for both Cult Encounters and Supernatural Encounters from Bongiorno. Overall, however, this is probably the best video you have done, despite a few errors.
Tf bro, Tilotny is not Abeloth and is not weaker ☠️ Tilotny is Abeloth’s mother… But yes, Wutzek is far above the Bedlams. But Left-Handed God is not. He is pretty much a regular deity without the Gem of Fury.
@@MiiaoTheFC Tilotny is not Abeloth's mother lol , Abeloth was just a mortal human before she turned into Abeloth , if her mother would have been a bedlam spirit then she would not have been just a mere human
I don’t see the force entities as gods. I just see them as normal sentient beings who achieved total enlightenment in the Force in their own unique way.
I think the Sith Emperor deserves an honorary mention at least for becoming basically an eldritch horror, rivalled in that aspect among the Sith only by Darth Nihilus IMO.
Abeloth controlled the son and daughter without power. They loved her. She noticed she was aging while they were not... and couldnt handle the idea of leaving them, or losing control over them.... She went into the well which is not for mortals.... it corruoted her in the worst of ways. Forced her family to cage her within the Maw
Yes, I was looking for that comment, but I think it's because they couldn't explain abeloth's story in details due to the format of that video. However she drank from the fountain of power( which is how the son became the embodiment of the darkside) and bathed in the pool of knowledge (which is how the daughter became the embodiment of the lightside) and then became the embodiment of chaos. But I've never heard about a well tho..
I consider myself a big star wars fan and i always thought that the father, the son and the daugter were gods of the force but they are just an alien race? I thought they were as far in terms of op caracters star wars would go. But they arent even gods.
Speaking of the force I believe is an aspect of universal gravitational constant. It's definition is the gravitational force acting between two bodies of unit mass, kept at a unit distance from each other. The value of G is a universal constant and doesn't change. Its value is 6.67×10−11 Nm2/kg2.
I'd argue that luke and sidious WERE deities, as sidious was the only force user to litterally scare the force ( the force created a void around sidious in attempt to ensure he didn't find out his power ) , and luke was able to ( though only briefly ) overpower abeloth, and abeloth even remarked him as a minor threat. Furthermore, luke was able to move black holes in one swipe. Sidious created a force storm larger than Jupiter without even raising his hands, just while he talked. Sidious, furthermore, was such an issue that he could influence death without a body. In other words, it took every single jedi spirit in all of history to keep palpatine dead, which they had to do twice, because they failed the first time. Plus, like you stated, luke was 1/12th of a force god when only using one side, which means luke is roughly 1/6th abeloths power when he goes all out. Keep in mind, anakin had a much higher potential, as his dna was largely just the force. If we assume anakin went full strength, he'd be a mortis god, likely near the power of the whills, as becoming a mortis god would likely increase his midichlorans thousandfold ( Abeloth wasn't force sensetive,so she probably had around 1000 midichlorans, and if we said luke had 27000, after becoming a mortis god abeloth had 314000 midichlorans or so, which is 314× normal. Meaning anakin( We'll say he has 40,000 as it's nearly double sidious which compliments Lucas's comment about anakin) would have 125,600,00 midichlorans, which makes him 40× stronger than abeloth, assuming he's using one side. Fp anakin would therefore be 80× stronger than abeloth, putting him up there with tier one mfs, and, given anakin would attain infinite knowledge, he'd likely enter and absorb the dark dimension, and replicate this with otherspace. What I'm saying is, full power anakin would litterally be the force.
don't forget that George Lucas says that sidious is the most powerful Sith user to ever live, past, present and future. Luke is the only one above him, cannot speak for the others
the celestials actually disappeared one the killicks and kwa were defeated by the rakatan infinite empire and the dark side of the force (for as much as we know) was first ever founded by the rakatas.
Simple answer: Living force references to what resides in all Living things, Cosmic force could be considered an afterlife. All those that become apart of the cosmic force lose their individuality without force ghost training.There's more to it just can't explain it that well
What about the child of the Bedlam Spirits, Typhogem? The Sith Species god Typhogem one who had the ability to gift non force sensitives with sensitivity in the dark side. Child of Tilotny and Splendid Ap. Tilotny apparently hated how Typhogem looked and banished him. Typhogem subsequently tried to destroy the Bedlam Spirits and they inturn destroy him.
It's funny how everybody in the Comments acting like Anakin could have beaten anything above tier 3 on this list. Those Tier 1 Bedlam Spirits sound pretty OP. I mean imo they sound like they are more powerful then anything else. If Time and Space confuse and annoy you and you can move things across them at will, then it's fair to assume you are beyond both. What the fuck would anybody do against you then? If something attacked you you could literally move back in time before you meet said thing and just keep it pushin. This some Lovecraftian Great Old One shit right there. Don't know if i would put them at the same level as the Outer Gods thou. Especially considering any Outer God would flick the whole Star Wars Universe out of existence no diff.
I feel as if the Grand Master of Force Order Grey should be Tier 3 (maybe 2) because they can not only use all aspects of the force at the greatest potential for a mortal, but the can also use Force Drain and Life Drain to maybe even kill a Force Demon. Since Grey Force Users are technically more powerful than either side alone, I feel as if the Grand Master, who is said to be more powerful than any Sith Emperor or Jedi Grand Master, could Drain Abeloth of her Force Powers and only grow stronger
He knew about the Mortis Gods (Father, Daughter, and Son). It's likely he knew of the Celestials and Aboloth as well. Not sure if he knew of the Whills...
I don't understand why the sequels didn't do an adaptation of abeloth. That would have been terrifying. Instead, somehow, Palpatine came back.
They wouldn't have been able to do her justice they would have screwed her up sadly.
Abeloth is a female monster. It would have gone against their ideology.
well in Legends Palp came back too and people didn't complained about it but disney's execution of that story was pretty bad
Disney needs to sell merch I guess. Don't think Abeloth would do well with kids.
Because abeloth will scare the lil kids
That's nice of Wutzek, to only kill those who harmed him, that's justice right there.
Well, he could’ve destroyed the multiverse… but simply chose not to
@@MiiaoTheFC what a nice fart
Edit: space fart*
@@Kaminkaese Goodbye Moonmen
Hes chill like that
Tier 0: Darth Mickey. So powerful that he can wipe out decades of Legends cannon and ruin a billion-dollar franchise.
Good One....LOL!!!!
Darth mickey, known for tapping into incredibly progrogressive abilities. Noted for his rainbow council of diversity, that enacted his wokeness across the reaches of the galaxy. Any question of his rule was met with immediate victimisation and cancelation.
Little is known of his downfall........
Bro deserves a medal for this comment. bro mad respect
I herd he’s strong with force pandering
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Please do a supernatural encounters video
I agree
I second
Sounds awesom!
Agreed, i never heard of it and am curious
Cum
I love how bedlam spirits are just like , "Man we just gonna chill here ya know and ignore shit and hang out and bitch at each other like quarreling siblings."
Me just *knowing* Abaloth would be in the top tier 😏
Me a few minutes later...what?! 😳
Bro same.
Facts
Abeloth is capable of getting stronger as well. Especially when she devours force users. I knew she shouldn`t be top tier, but I thought she would be mid-tier for sure!
She’s over rated, no more powerful then the father at his prime, she’s a being of the Living force, cosmic entities surpass her
@@sleeper.simulant7327 The Father is dead. So, she/it has room to grow. Otherwise, the weakest and most dangerous godlike being in Star Wars vs the strongest mortal, is still a one-sided fight.
I love how the triangle spirit is like "Ahh not again, let's clean this up." 15:47
Honestly feel bad for the Stormtroopers, to be reconfigured at a Molecular Level, killed, revived and sent back 8000 years in the past just to die on a unknown planet with no hope of escaping
I'd be very interested to see a video on supernatural encounters.
it's considered "non-canon" by wookiepedia, although it kind of is
Joe Bongiorno confirmed just days ago that the final page count for the extended version to be 1,044 pages, not including maps and tables.
I'm friends with both Joe and the editing staff. Ask questions if you would like, but I won't spoil anything.
Same here :)
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Imagine if Anakin reached his Full Potential, and ascended in death to a form even higher than his already powerful Force Ghost? Could've been a whole "Force God of Balance", or another, more ghost-like/ethereal Celestial like the Ones on Mortis were.
He may have been even more powerful than Abeloth
@@DarksideGmss0513 I doubt that. Lots of people think that Grand master Luke was what Anakin could have been. Or that he would have been a few degrees stronger. Him being as strong as Abeloth would have been ludicrous.
@@90skidcultist Anakin is on the same tier as the Father even possible stronger in terms of force potential, the Father is also stronger then Abeloth. Anakin wins mid to high diff.
@@anakinskywalker3258 I didn`t say anything about you! Not me...😨
@@anakinskywalker3258 The Father wasn't stronger than Abeloth. He needed Daughter and Son to fight her and the only reason she lost was because she didn't got used to her new powers and form yet :/ Even through Anakin is very powerful, he's still a human being and compared to Abeloth his body is much more fragile. He was beaten by frickin Obi-Wan, Doku cutted his hand off. So on Force level - Anakin is powerful as hell. But on the physical side? Abeloth wins.
Bendu: 1:51
The Ones: 3:55
Star Wars version of Silmarillion: 5:42
Star Wars version of Vecna: 6:52
Inside Out emotions: 8:36
Demon thing from Fantastic Beasts: 10:09
Ego from GOTG2: 11:33
Te Fiti, Bill Cipher, Kabuki mask, The Spot: 13:46
The Force: 16:59
The Whills: 17:35
XD
You just forgot to mention the Sith God worshipped by the Kissai.
Ego? Seems basically the same as the Flood from Halo to me
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Now here's an ironic thing dunno anyone else noticed yet... Anakin turning DOWN basically being able to become a Force Being/God... An if chose then probably coulda stayed Good if he REALLY wanted to be. Save Padme almost FOR SURE if really, REALLY wanted at such a level an then probably be able to get away with about whatever he wants so long as he takes said previous "one's" place and does the job. An even Sideous an Yoda wouldn't be able to do a thing about it.. as he TRULY would finally be at their an well above their level of power an ability. Perhaps even being so much younger an stronger then the actual one he replaced in such a hypothetical perhaps he'd even be able to hold his own with even the absolutely worst enemies like Abeloth even. Provided he was sufficiently trained as the true One successor an had a firm grasp of her weaknesses, limits an good idea of her capabilities. But on the other hand perhaps would still need help in such a case. Then again the One, a "one" in training Anakin an "X" Force User vs Abeloth or someone like that would be a interesting match up
Anakin has double lukes potential meaning anakin with both sides is 1/3rd abeloths power. I've calculated it and being a mortis god heightens your midichloran count 314× over, and anakin would end up around 80× abeloths full power.
@@amvcentral9198 so basically those "Ones", which I wonder are connected any to her unintentional creators somehow. They seem similar, maybe common beginning or something like that... woulda finally had someone to outright crush her then in a straight up fight. Seems from what I've heard the only version of Luke that could or WOULD easily best her woulda been Force Being Grandmaster Luke since he became Sentient Force made flesh in that arc. So he'd basically had EVERYTHING possible in that instance an been literally unstoppable against literally anything, ANYONE an EVERYTHING.. I'm not as familiar with the Abeloth VS the SW Galaxy story arc though as I'd like. Disney shoulda tried something like that before going an basically creating alternate reality timelines like they basically went and did
What are you referring to turning down force god?God?
Was this something in the comics or you mean staying on Mordus as the balance/father?
@@JustJoe24 He means the latter. To answer one of his questions though, depending on the timing....If Anakin chose to become the new "Father", then he wouldn't have been around to knock up Padme, so she'd have had no need to be "saved". Since that was his destiny as seen in his dreams, logic would dictate his choice to become the "Father" was never a choice at all. It was already his destiny to reject it.....but I'm guessing at the timeline, it seemed like it was too early in the Clone Wars for her to have already been pregnant.
@@robertagu5533it’s stated abeloth is 12x stronger than grand master luke
Great video I’ve always enjoyed the characters that push the omniscient vibe especially because we idolize characters like Luke and Han and stuff when in the grand scheme they’re relatively minuscule in comparison.
Like, what's the point of this list? We all know deep in our hearts that the most powerful being in the entire star wars series is Jar Jar Binks
Darth jar jar
😂🤣😂 A Sith Jar Jar. He’d kill anyone that said, umm I can’t understand you. So basically the entire galaxy dies at the hands of Jar Jar.
Darth Jar Jar might be powerful but even he can't stand up to the ancient evil power known simply as Darth Gonk.
I really like the idea of jar jar being the secret true sith lord 😂 would of been a twist of the ages
Honestly thought the last character on Tier 1 would be George Lucas 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
The one above all
Tbh it's Disney now.
I was part of a Star Wars Mandalorian War Legacy Era D&D campaign once and we ran into Abaloth at one point. Dang, that was quite the challenge escaping! I still have no idea how we did. Our GM was so crazy and that made the game so incredibly awesome. Lol
Do u run into her in that game?
@@daymenpollet4202 Our GM said we did, so yes. She was terrifying. We almost all died right there. Lol.
If you aren't familiar with how D&D works, there's one person who runs the game and comes up with all the different scenarios your group might run into. Ours decided to be insane and put us up against Abeloth by having us go too close to the Maw. It was so crazy!
Holy. Shit. That's seriously the nerdiest thing I've ever read 🤣. "I have no idea how we escaped". That's easy. Because the guy making shit up said you did.
@@Swearengen1980😂😂
lmao frr@@Swearengen1980
Tbh I’d love if the barrier was broken the vong was one of my fav legends run. Also would kill for the aboloth books be made into a show but I know that’s never gonna happen but man image the assault on the jedi temple to retake it from her on the big screen.
I hope it never happens while Disney is in charge of Star Wars. Disney cannot do any Star Wars story the justices it deserves.
I feel as though Abeloth should be placed higher on this list, as while we haven’t seen much of her compared to other characters, what we have seen seems to put her at an unquantifiable level of power, as she has become a Force Aberration, but one that possesses an obscene level of power over the Force. Likely the only thing holding her back is her own mental state, as she is the furthest thing from sane, and were she sane, her power would likely grow much more as she would gain more control. Oh she also dominated what was honestly the strongest generation of Force users the galaxy had seen in millennia, with relative ease despite being outnumbered by around twenty to thirty to one.
Her sanity doesn't matter. She's at her peak since she bathed in the pool of knowledge and gained infinite knowledge of the force
@@amvcentral9198 In terms of raw power, we’ve never seen anyone her equal or superior, that is correct, however that knowledge of the Force isn’t nearly as helpful as it could be with her mental state the way it is, as were she sane, she’d likely become a much more dangerous threat as she could then apply her knowledge of the Force to much grander schemes then what she had attempted during the time of Like Skywalker's tenure as Jedi Grandmaster.
@@amvcentral9198 She actually does get stronger over time, though. Especially when she`s devours other beings. Potential, she could be strongest. Who knows...
@@decimation9780 her equal in raw power? Just because certain cosmic beings don’t display such power because they have restraint doesn’t make her more powerful then them, by theory they are vastly more powerful then her, they just don’t need to show it all the time like she does. The father at his prime was probably the most powerful of the living force due to his strict balance, being able to use both sides perfectly. She’s the opposite of balance, chaos. She’s at most prime fathers equal…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 Nope, she’s Prime Father's superior, because after it had been discovered what she had done, the Father, Daughter, And Son has confronted Abeloth, and had proceeded to be completely dominated. The only reason she lost against them was because she was still getting used to her newfound powers and abilities, leading to her being tricked, and then locked away within the Maw.
Do remember that she dealt with over a dozen Force users that had been strengthened by constant conflict before Luke dealt her what was believed to be a mortal blow, until he reveals that only the Mortis Blade could even stand a chance at actually hurting her, and he wasn’t even certain that it would do anything to her even if it was used.
What you have to remember is that unlike the other entities on this list, she was initially mortal, and she then acquired her powers through desperation, and we’ve seen what mortal Force Users are capable of, and she became immortal after what she did, meaning she has the potential to surpass every single force entity listed in the video simply because even she isn’t fully aware of what she can do. And she’s still out there, biding her time somewhere in the galaxy.
If the force is put so high on the list, was Kreia's plan to rid the Galaxy of it an impossible task?
I’m not so sure if Kreia, was trying to destroy it. She mentioned hating it’s influence on all life and wanted to create a wound/sound so grand in scale so as to deafen all life to it.
@@mimru Kreia couldn’t stand how free will within the SW universe was basically nonexistent. Every civilization rises and falls in endless cycles of good vs evil (guided by the force). She wanted to free people from its “guidance” and let them live their own lives.
@@BANANA42k a worthy task
Yeah it was impossible because Kreia wanting that, is just another character in the infinite playground that is the force, she's also the force, as everyone is, but each person manifests and represents different aspects within it. There's always destiny, tye thing is, there's infinite destinies, as there are infinite versions of ourselves, so, free will, from the people's point of view, would be the power to choose which of the infinite predetermined destinies they will live, depending on their life choices. But from a trascended point of view there's no free will, just characters of a story choosing different, infinite, branching paths that lead to different endings, some longer, some shorter, some happier and some sadder. But you will never "kill" the force, as even the concept of life and death is irrelevant, the force is true infinity, there's no concept rhat can define it, if you ever try to, then you're sadly not talking about the force, as infinity has no limit and no comparison, it just is infinite, without beginning nor end.
@@BANANA42k Thats hella based Kreia is the GOAT
To correct you, supernatural encounters is licensed, but lies in between a state of non canon and canon, but there's more proof of it being canon so i would lean towards that side of the argument.
the book will be published, so that might change the canonicity of the work.
@The Stupendous wave Thank you, keep up the great work that you do, its much appreciated. Here is 1 of them that you did forgot to mention. To let you know their is the called (Fourth precept) the unknown God being entities of Light and Dark
Of Good and Evil from Starwars Legends. They have specialized lightsabers, they can travel into galaxies, universes, and can create Ultra Universes while creating more Fourth precepts. It's in a Starwars Legends audio sound Comic.
Put their names dude
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 The Fourth Precept is an artistic representation of the fight between Light and Dark, good and evil. Two figures fight with lightsabers in various ethereal settings. It has no dialogue.
Btw i think since video refers to the bedlam spirits shown in tier 1 maybe the abstract concept of the 4th precepts is why they weren't put in this video tho
Abeloth was stated to be weaker than the ones overall. It is them who kept her closed in the Maw.
Love your vids man, your channel has made me fall in love with Star Wars and now I know a lot of the lore and enjoy watching them daily thank you so much
A video on supernatural encounters
i still wish episode 7-9 had been about abeloth or jason... I loved reading those stories, it absolutely terrified me.
Mnggal-Mnggal seems like it could possibly be the villain of the Stars Wars Eclipse game, would be cool to see them actually adapt that from legends in a grand way
Interesting video, I enjoyed learning of the few characters that I didn’t know already, and mostly they’re tier 1 characters from The Devilworlds. Very cool.
I was partly expecting the World Razer to appear on this list but I guess I understand that it wouldn't be given how little we know about it
I really enjoy these type's of videos. I also would like you, when possible, to continue to make these longer videos. I really enjoy your channel so keep up all the good and creative works.
The bedlam spirits just kind of remind me of how with with a lot of early comics. There is just some random wacky thing that happened that never gets brought up again and gets ignored with all future lore. I kind of feel like that's what's supposed to happen with them
i very much love the longer format in this vid and the info i learned please make more longer videos this was great
The father was never stabbed by the dagger, but died because of Anakin’s lightsaber. It was a distraction to kill the son with it, but the father died because of the saber.
This video makes me think of Ahsoka's line to Ezra. In my experience just when u think u understand the force, you find out how little you actually know. Just when i think i understand Star Wars, i find out how little I actually know. Lol
What about the seed planet of the Vong home world ???.. A sentient force wielding planet . We met this entity when Anikan and Obi-Wan went there when Anikan was still a boy and during the Vong wars it basically ended the war
That clip of Anakin and the flying thing at 0:35 really made me do a double take, I thought you slipped in a how to train your dragons clip.
There was a great line in Farscape, when John says,' Jeez...I hate godlike aliens...'
Great video also if the force is supposed to be immortal how can it "Bleed" because there have been multiple instances in star wars history that the force has "Bled".
Could be in the same way a Wraith from Stargate is "immortal." As long as the Wraith/Force is properly nourished, it won't die of old age and has a significant regeneration rate. Question is, what would the Force feed upon? Lifeforce? Chaos? Could explain some things in a crossover fic with something like Robotech or Halo to explain why the other guys could be in the "same" universe and have never before heard about the Force: in that universe The Force is some kind of galaxy-wide gestalt entity or something that can only exist in one galaxy at a time, or maybe the Galactic Barrier keeps it contained, and the Star Wars people going insane trying to cross it is because they are being affected by the barrier killing the Force Microbes in their bodies. Maybe the "insanity" is also an illusion caused by the Force to try to dissuade people from crossing it because it knows they'll be free from it on the other side.
@@evanboll4651 The concept of the Force as a psychic gestalt controlling a whole Galaxy legitimately unnerves me. Your comment was very thought provoking!
@@evanboll4651 Thats a legendary theory
@@eeurr1306 It would explain a great deal, such as there being the whole cycle of Sith and Jedi with no one in-universe being able to consistently remember history. The Force feeds on chaos, so every time it gets hungry it ignites another war between it's newest set of pawns.
@@evanboll4651 Yeah I understand the theory and its consequences otherwise i wouldnt have called your theory legendary...
A) loved the longer video!
B) please do a video on the supernatural I loved the video on the dark screaming things in the unknown regions!
By far the best Star Wars channel on RUclips, you are a legend amongst Star Wars fans and you always provide 💯
You watch star wars theory?
@@nathanclaytonvarietyasmr8224 he probably doesn’t for me personally 100% Star Wars or Central Network better
WOW!!! I am so interested in The Force Entities of Star Wars!!!
The Force itself is an entity. It contains representations of authors (the Whills) and transcends itself.
We absolutley need a video covering Supernatural Encounters
Really interesting video!! Well done
Would love to hear more of supernatural encounters
The supernatural encounters sounds very cool
Yes to the supernatural encounters
Yea, you might think they're powerful; I'm the one who decides if I let them wield that power or even if I allow them to exist at all. LOL. Anyway, I'd like to hear more about the galactic barrier. Might at one time a super powerful race saw what happened and decided to create the barrier as a prison for some reason?
Rakatans make me think that the planting of Kashyyyk The Flood of Manaan The Weapon test on Tatooine
Like experiments the Infinite Empire long slaved them until the became all Dark side than the force was depleted from them then a Plague boom the Journal of the Whills talking about a Galaxy with so many stories a constant Star Wars
Needs to be a super natural encounters deep dive. Not many videos exist on it
Yes on the supernatural encounters video
A video on supernatural encounters would be awesome
i have never seen a video that includes let alone is based around the giant loath wolf that ezra saw in a vision
If their was a supernatural video would it include the yuzhan'tar/vong god's. And side question is there any chance for any yuzhan'vong videos in the near future because I would love to see coverage of my favorite SW race and more detailed coverage of them as well. I think my beloved space masochists need more coverage
Yea please do a vide on the super
naturals
Yes please supernatural encounters sounds awesome sauce
I would like to see your take on SE (preferably the Extended Edition once it is published, since it will be over 1,000 pages, as confirmed by Bongiorno just the other day). I want to see how close you actually match up with what Bongiorno, the editors, and I have already discussed.
9:55 Wutzek is more powerful than you are placing him, though you will have to read SE Extended first. He is certainly above the Bedlam Spirits and the Mnggal-Mnggal (with the exception of Horliss-Horliss, who defeated the original Father of Shadows and saved the whole of the Star Wars galaxy). Tilotny is Abeloth in a weakened state.
Both Typhojem and the Father of Shadows need to be placed above the Bedlam Spirits (except Horliss-Horliss, arguably) as they are the two greatest threats the galaxy has ever faced. Typhojem, confirmed in Supernatural Encounters to also be called Pomojema, was first introduced in Splinter of the Mind's Eye (for his temple is where Luke and Vader fought).
1:35 That is Ku'ar Danar, aka Darth Dreadwar. Not sure where you are getting "Supreme Maker."
Also, Supernatural Encounters is only regarded as non-canon by the Wook, not Lucasfilm. Lucasfilm no longer does licensing for Legends content directly, but it is done through Del Ray publishers, who have worked extensively for both Cult Encounters and Supernatural Encounters from Bongiorno.
Overall, however, this is probably the best video you have done, despite a few errors.
Tf bro, Tilotny is not Abeloth and is not weaker ☠️
Tilotny is Abeloth’s mother…
But yes, Wutzek is far above the Bedlams. But Left-Handed God is not. He is pretty much a regular deity without the Gem of Fury.
@@MiiaoTheFC Tilotny is not Abeloth's mother lol , Abeloth was just a mortal human before she turned into Abeloth , if her mother would have been a bedlam spirit then she would not have been just a mere human
@@davidkosiba624 now read SE
What is SE?
This was incredible. Thank you for this.
Yes to the supernatural encouters
Supernatural. YES! YES! YES! YES! Supernatural video. Yes!
Me starting this video "Ah. Gonna see Abaloth absolute wreck here."
**puts her in tier 3**
Me "...oh....."
Yes please do a video on the super natural cause I’ve never heard of the supreme maker
I don’t see the force entities as gods. I just see them as normal sentient beings who achieved total enlightenment in the Force in their own unique way.
I think the Sith Emperor deserves an honorary mention at least for becoming basically an eldritch horror, rivalled in that aspect among the Sith only by Darth Nihilus IMO.
Abeloth controlled the son and daughter without power. They loved her.
She noticed she was aging while they were not... and couldnt handle the idea of leaving them, or losing control over them....
She went into the well which is not for mortals.... it corruoted her in the worst of ways.
Forced her family to cage her within the Maw
Yes, I was looking for that comment, but I think it's because they couldn't explain abeloth's story in details due to the format of that video. However she drank from the fountain of power( which is how the son became the embodiment of the darkside) and bathed in the pool of knowledge (which is how the daughter became the embodiment of the lightside) and then became the embodiment of chaos. But I've never heard about a well tho..
I love these kinds of videos, This is what I’ve always been wanted to hear about from star wars
I don’t care what Disney says is canon, because Disney is not canon.
Facts.
Anything with Jar Jar and beyond is not canon to me
@@beanseason6515I get where you’re coming from but that’s living in the 80’s and 90’s at that point my dude it’s okay to like the prequels now😂
So you're saying Disney canon not
Confidently incorrect
Damn, I thought I was a fan of Star Wars, but there's so much I still don't know. Awesome video, thank you for making it
I consider myself a big star wars fan and i always thought that the father, the son and the daugter were gods of the force but they are just an alien race? I thought they were as far in terms of op caracters star wars would go. But they arent even gods.
Supernatural encountereds would be awesome
My fav video of yours so far!
Speaking of the force I believe is an aspect of universal gravitational constant. It's definition is the gravitational force acting between two bodies of unit mass, kept at a unit distance from each other. The value of G is a universal constant and doesn't change. Its value is 6.67×10−11 Nm2/kg2.
The Force exists even outside the multiverse, so no…
I can't get enough of this content!
Yeah supernatural encounters sounds awesome
Tier 0 : Jar Jar Binks
I am also interested into the supernatural and scary things in star was you should considering its October
Please make a supernatural encounters video
Hmm no mention of Typhojem? Being the offspring of two of the Bedlam Spirits I figured he would at least be tier 2 or lower end of tier 1.
Can u do a video of supernatural encounters plz?
So the Dagger of Mortis is basically the Star Wars version of the Necro Sword
I'd argue that luke and sidious WERE deities, as sidious was the only force user to litterally scare the force ( the force created a void around sidious in attempt to ensure he didn't find out his power ) , and luke was able to ( though only briefly ) overpower abeloth, and abeloth even remarked him as a minor threat. Furthermore, luke was able to move black holes in one swipe. Sidious created a force storm larger than Jupiter without even raising his hands, just while he talked. Sidious, furthermore, was such an issue that he could influence death without a body. In other words, it took every single jedi spirit in all of history to keep palpatine dead, which they had to do twice, because they failed the first time. Plus, like you stated, luke was 1/12th of a force god when only using one side, which means luke is roughly 1/6th abeloths power when he goes all out. Keep in mind, anakin had a much higher potential, as his dna was largely just the force. If we assume anakin went full strength, he'd be a mortis god, likely near the power of the whills, as becoming a mortis god would likely increase his midichlorans thousandfold
( Abeloth wasn't force sensetive,so she probably had around 1000 midichlorans, and if we said luke had 27000, after becoming a mortis god abeloth had 314000 midichlorans or so, which is 314× normal. Meaning anakin( We'll say he has 40,000 as it's nearly double sidious which compliments Lucas's comment about anakin) would have 125,600,00 midichlorans, which makes him 40× stronger than abeloth, assuming he's using one side. Fp anakin would therefore be 80× stronger than abeloth, putting him up there with tier one mfs, and, given anakin would attain infinite knowledge, he'd likely enter and absorb the dark dimension, and replicate this with otherspace. What I'm saying is, full power anakin would litterally be the force.
Exar Kun and the Sith Emperor as well. Grand Master Luke had a hard time against Exar Kun, which JUST defeated Reborn Sidious.
don't forget that George Lucas says that sidious is the most powerful Sith user to ever live, past, present and future. Luke is the only one above him, cannot speak for the others
the celestials actually disappeared one the killicks and kwa were defeated by the rakatan infinite empire and the dark side of the force (for as much as we know) was first ever founded by the rakatas.
Dude I find those gods very interesting to bad that’s the only thing we got about them😭
Im most interested in the hyperspace barrier you mentioned. I think thats what you called it
What is the difference between the living and cosmic force?
Simple answer:
Living force references to what resides in all Living things, Cosmic force could be considered an afterlife. All those that become apart of the cosmic force lose their individuality without force ghost training.There's more to it just can't explain it that well
What about the child of the Bedlam Spirits, Typhogem? The Sith Species god Typhogem one who had the ability to gift non force sensitives with sensitivity in the dark side. Child of Tilotny and Splendid Ap. Tilotny apparently hated how Typhogem looked and banished him. Typhogem subsequently tried to destroy the Bedlam Spirits and they inturn destroy him.
It's funny how everybody in the Comments acting like Anakin could have beaten anything above tier 3 on this list.
Those Tier 1 Bedlam Spirits sound pretty OP. I mean imo they sound like they are more powerful then anything else. If Time and Space confuse and annoy you and you can move things across them at will, then it's fair to assume you are beyond both. What the fuck would anybody do against you then?
If something attacked you you could literally move back in time before you meet said thing and just keep it pushin.
This some Lovecraftian Great Old One shit right there. Don't know if i would put them at the same level as the Outer Gods thou. Especially considering any Outer God would flick the whole Star Wars Universe out of existence no diff.
they are basically sentient infinity stones
ngl the spirits thing were the most scary thing I heard, like I imagined how it would be
Hello there!
General Kenobi!
I really enjoyed this
I feel as if the Grand Master of Force Order Grey should be Tier 3 (maybe 2) because they can not only use all aspects of the force at the greatest potential for a mortal, but the can also use Force Drain and Life Drain to maybe even kill a Force Demon. Since Grey Force Users are technically more powerful than either side alone, I feel as if the Grand Master, who is said to be more powerful than any Sith Emperor or Jedi Grand Master, could Drain Abeloth of her Force Powers and only grow stronger
Is it even a question? Please do a supernatural encounters and playing Star Wars D&D. XD I use your video a lot and would love some new lore lol
I love Star Wars the most when there are no supernatural beings and encounters. Just the force, politics and the wars.
I love every aspect. Except for sequels. Sequels are no Star Wars
L opinion
The force is literally supernatural, what are you talking about?
Noel Noel is the Star Wars version of the Flood
Anyone want to talk about the Star Wars gods?
video on supernatural encounters pls
I wonder if Sidious knew about these beings?
Sidious somewhat knew that their were other things out their though didn't see or know their true intentions and ways of doing things.
@@lightnihilus and what about you Lord of Hunger? Do you know of such beings?
@@kaidorade1317 Yes
He knew about the Mortis Gods (Father, Daughter, and Son). It's likely he knew of the Celestials and Aboloth as well. Not sure if he knew of the Whills...
I would argue valkorion being a god and being a entity since he was basically immortal and insanely powerful
Abeloth the Lord of Depression
...and Queen of the smiling face. Just look at those teeth. 😂
@@KermitOfWar she's mommy 🥵
The Father is order
The Son is darkness
The Daughter is light
The Mother chaos
Abeloth breaking free shouldve been the focus of the last trilogy movies.
I wonder how anakin as the chosen one could have ranked In this if he had reached his full potentiel
Above everyone, even the Father of Shadows. Well, above everyone except for the Supreme Maker, who is George Lucas directly.
@@MiiaoTheFCwho is the Father of Shadows?
@@meeper46 well, the true Father of Shadows is Nakhash
@@MiiaoTheFC who?
Yes indeed, please do a video about supernatural encounters.
You have to include Luke. He can become a God like being if he chooses.
How?
@@ericlarson3597 he can become the Avatar of the Force.
@@Canbilly2 Says who ?
@@ond5041 Luke.
Ya but he kissed his sister