Mines you can find and The origin of the mysterious CatFace symbol - Uintah Basin, Utah
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Please be careful and use common sense when entering old mines. I want to thank everyone who provided information regarding Mr. Shirl Atwood.
My contact information is: wirecanyon@gmail.com
Shirl is my first cousin I miss him a lot ...... my pic is with Rufuss in 1988 at Shirl's cabin in Vernal...... Keep Hunting my Brother
Yep thats my uncle shirl the uintas are loaded with his symbols there are quite a few books out there about mines and ghost towns with uncle shirls mentions in them rip shirl love you!!
Your uncle was a truly remarkable man and it was my honor to help introduce him to the public. You have a great family!
You always have great content. Thanks for sharing
Many thanks Terry!
Just found your vids. Great content sir. One of my hobbies is 4 wheeling to remote places with my dog to explore the area with a long range FPV drone. I’ll see something interesting from the air and we can go check it out. I’ve seen several mines. I was not aware of the Spanish exploration … pretty cool. I’m in the SLC area and have played in the Unitas a bit. Looks like there are tons of interesting spots to explore. In fact, I think I’ll load up and head out there today. Thanks, keep them coming.
Another cool video, thanks for sharing. The snow is gone we need to take a trip and I’ll show you that cabin and mines
Awesome! I will check my work schedule and schedule some time off. I will send you an email and we will work it out.
Great video. Thank you.
Your videos are a treasure. Thank you for documenting this history. You are incredibly brave to enter the old mines💚
Thanks Melanie. My biggest fear is always the critters and snakes that make these places home. One time while exploring an old mine in Colorado I got exposed to some sort of gas. Had a massive headache for two days and was very sick.
good to see your face and voice too. Ive watched several videos of yours. appreciate you! I love the outdoors regardless of the situation and seeing as well as being there!
I was sorta shy and quiet as a kid for the most part, then grew out of it and enjoyed being social. As I grow older, I find myself slowly reverting back to just wanting to be left alone. LOL. It started becoming to hard to communicate information using just text with music in the background, so I decided to start showing the face and talk some. Glad you like it.
I highly enjoyed this, I think I might just go exploring with the family tomorrow
Thanks for the video
Heck ya, that's what I'm talking about! Have fun!!!
Thank you for sharing , This was a great video . Ive ran into the cat faces before maybe half a dozen times over the years . I was elk hunting above woodland and found a few cat face drawings on the quakes , also alot of spanish writing , This was around 2007 , i went back in 2016 and all the trees were gone the trail had been widened and all the trees with symbols removed , In the video you made the statement that the spanish would be doing the work in mine , I doubt they worked they were slavers and thought they were above such tasks they had the utes goshutes navajos and who ever else they could enslave to do there labor for them .
Too bad about the tree carvings. I know the forest fire last year burned down a lot of the old carvings on dry ridge. Not to many tree carvings left. I'm really glad you enjoyed the video.
I've enjoyed your videos. Found a few cat faces myself and found some cool things when ive wondered the area of cat faces. Thank you for sharing your adventures.
Heck ya, that's what I'm talking about! The cool things keep it interesting. Thank you for watching the vids and supporting the channel.
Such a awseome video , Thank you for sharing ! ✌️😎
Cool, glad you enjoyed it Royboy.
AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME!!!!
Thanks for giving me a heads up a few weeks ago.
Cat
Thanks Cat and really appreciate your help with this project.
That was very interesting history and thank you for sharing 😊
Thanks Billy and my pleasure.
My husband is Obibwa I'm 3rd generation Irish. I can't tell u how much we look forward to your thoughtful upkoads. Ty
Thank you very much for the comment. I'm glad you and your husband find value in the videos.
Nice video , I have been in that old mine there is still a lot of quartz bearing ore there. The next canyon over Farm creek has a lot of igneous intrusion and some very old workings , most of it however is on Indian land. As you drive over the peak on Blind stream look up and you will see a large working on the top of the mountain, you can see it from the road if you know where to look. I have hiked up to it and it is interesting.
Your the second person who has told me about that old mine. Sounds very interesting. If you ever feel comfortable giving me specific directions, just send me a private email. I'd love to check it out and document it.
I would love to explore the area of Farm Creek you are talking about. I miss the old days when you could wonder around on Indian without the risk of being harassed. When they started blocking those areas, it was really hard for people like my dad and uncles, who were used to going pretty much anywhere they pleased on Indian.
Just south of the turn that takes you to Farm Creek (South of Treasure Hill) in Saddies Flat, you will see the remains of an old house. That is my grandpa's old house he grew up in. They herded sheep all up and down Rock Creek.
Interesting about the Igneous Intrusions. Thank you .
Great video and research
Thank you!
Fascinating! Another great video. I'm so glad I found your channel... You are one of the only people making vids of some of the most interesting areas on the planet. I lived in Orem Utah years ago and spent a lot of time in the Tooele desert and the canyons around Escalante. There is a cave I found near the Calf Creek area that I'd love to ask you about. It has a name on the wall of a man who, I believe, roamed around the Escalante area in the 1920 or 30s(?) I remember he collected so many amazing artifacts. I believe I read that his arctfacts were burned up in an arson fire but always wanted to know more about this man. He seemed to really want to preserve the history and arctfacts of Escalante and the Freemonts. Was the name "Alvey"?... I'll bet you the place. It's hard to find and not on any maps but has some incredible pictographs and petroglyphs. There are a couple that still have amazing color.
Thanks for the great videos as I can't get out there as much these days!
Thanks Oliver and your comment means a lot to me. Feel free to email me the pics anytime, I love looking at stuff like that. My email is always in the description down below.
Oliver that man was Edison Alvey. He was my families Home Teacher when I was about 11yo. growing up in Escalante. He was the Science Teacher in Escalante for many years and a consumate explorer. He told me of many caves, I have explored a few, one is still on my bucket list! It was a shame when his artifacts were stolen after he died. They were slated to go into a museum, but local druggies broke in and stole anything of value and set fire to the old log museum to cover their tracks. The entire community was heart broken.
@@treasureexplorationandrese3712 That's fascinating. It sure is a shame about the theft. Thanks for the additional information! It's always great to add a pice to the puzzle. I've seen his name in a few places (in some remote places) but never really close to any pictographs or glyphs. It's a fascinating area, and so much early history about it is unknown.
By the way, the Bobcats name was Rufus and was missing a toe - went deer hunting with them in the Book-cliffs one year and that's when I met Rufus lol - I think I was about 10-12 years old then, maybe younger.
I remember it very well because I tripped running down a hill chasing after a big buck and fell face first in to a cactus bed, spent the rest of the trip picking prickly pear needles out - what a painful experience that was, I'll never forget it.
Understandably painful at the time, but what a cool memory. Some of my best memories of childhood were spent in the Bookcliffs deer hunting. I can most definitely relate. I only wish one of my uncles would have had a pet bobcat to bring!!!
That's awesome very interesting thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it and my pleasure.
Great video
Thanks Chris. Appreciate the compliment.
Thanks for sharing once again B you’re D bess !
No problem Doc. Thank you for watching.
Did he happen to keep any diaries? Makes a person want to dig deeper and really memorize this true legend. Regardless this is really well done and good enough! Thanks for sharing
He did!! I'm not going to say his name, but a friend of mine has his information in safe keeping.
@@LowBudgetExploration awesome
interestng symbols cut in the pine trees. There were some exactly like this one and others at 7:08 on ice cave peak Mosby mt. only other one's besides ice cave I've ever seen. Many say they are expedition symbols, and maps. Nice research job on Sheral atwood.
Thanks Doug for the compliment. I will be doing a video sometime in the future, which will show some of those carvings you are talking about. I have photos of the carvings that my uncle took about a week before the timber company cut them down years ago.
I’ve been close to that area from Hannah area. It’s nice country. Rick from Salt Lake
Rick, yes sir it is. I love making the loop and coming out in Hanna and Tabby, absolutely gorgeous country.
Great video! How many bugs did you inhale in the mine by the meadow? 🤣interesting history on the catface markings. Hopefully some folks will bring the kids and share your story and visit the meadow! ☮
LOL, needless to say I didn't need to eat any of my snacks afterwards. One could say I had my fill of protein for the time being.
@@LowBudgetExploration Been there done that 🤣
That was fun…thanks
Your welcome and thanks for the comment.
I live about 800 yards from the south end of the Carter Trail - if you've done your research, that has most likely showed up in the history you've uncovered.
I'm familiar with the Carter Trail (old military road), but nothing relating to Mr. Atwood. I would love to hear the story, if your comfortable telling it. My email is in the description, if its a sensitive/private type information.
Love the adventures, I have a personal question that I have not asked anyone before because I' like to research independent. Ok, I found a reddish stone in the shape of a old headstone, rounded top with straight sides. With only the letter A with a rounded top as still looking like a capital A. Along a Arizona desert mountain on one side and a river on the other side. The rough is possible to reach only from the population side crossing the river to the hillside stone. What is your thoughts of this stone marker branded A other than a Arizona
New to Utah and really enjoying these stories. Thanks for sharing
Anytime! Hope you are enjoying your new home.
That is not a cat face but a marker telling you where they hid their gold while mining.
The cat face is really an old Portuguese treasure spell brought in by the Spanish in their superstitious witchcraft to protect their mines and gold. They would perform the ceremony then carve a cat face to watch/guard the mine. In the ceremony they would burn some of the hair from a black cat, then turn the cat lose to be a servent of the devil. In return the devil was supposed to guard the mine for the person doing the ceremony, and cause harm to anyone else that tried to get the treasure. If a cat wasn't available any animal would do. There are very few origional cat faces left because the old trees are dead and gone. Some cat faces were done on rock faces, some of these remain. There are cat faces in the Superstition Mountains and many other places the Spanish ventured. Using the cat face was illegal, banned by the Pope and Crown. It was considered witchcraft and any who were caught or participated in these curses could be put to death. This practice was probably mostly used by privateers or illegal expeditions or by the Mexicans once the Spanish left after Mexico won its independance. I know Shirl Atwood carved many of the more recent cat faces. He probably saw an origional carving and thought it was cool then incorporated his initials into it. I doubt he knew the background of these or he probably wouldn't have adopted it! I am not superstitious but the background of these carvings gives me pause! An old Mexican told me about these things and I found a book that confirmed his words, El Libro Magico De San Cipriano. I also did a video about the cat face. Thanks Salvador Delgado
I'm not sure about all that. No offense, but that sounds more like modern "treasure hunter lore", than actual history.
If you can show me some proof, say an old manuscript, history book, anything similar dated pre 1900 and depicts this symbol I would be interested. Not modern treasure hunting books or quotes from said books, legit historical sources.
If you have anything like I described please send it to me. Thanks.
@@LowBudgetExploration Have Terry Carter give you Salvador Delgado's email and tell you about his background. Listen carefully, be respectful and research what he tells you. He can tell you where to find some of the old carvings, if he decides to. He is very superstitious about it so be sensitive to that. The Spanish book I mentioned earlier is not a new book of curses, it is a book republishing 500 year old Portuguese witchcraft.
@@treasureexplorationandrese3712 I'm sure Mr. Delgado is a very nice guy and he may have his personal believes (as we all do), but that is not proof of anything. It is merely his personal opinion/superstitions and etc. I did google the book you referenced and found numerous symbols in the book, none of which looked anything like the catface symbol mentioned in this video.
My advice is if you want to show this symbol came from this book, simply purchase it on Amazon. It is currently listed for around $28 bucks. Flip through the book and try to find the symbol. This is how I do research and try to go to the source, if possible.
I think your money would be better spent on a 12 pack of some cold beer. To each their own, thanks again for the comment and keep me updated if you find anything.
@@LowBudgetExploration I felt the same way you do assumed that Shirl Atwood made all the cat face carvings that were known. I found out that I was wrong. I've done the research and from the evidence and eye witnesses I have personally concluded that Shirl Atwood was not the first to use the cat face symbol and that the symbol has been created exactly as the 500 yo Portuguese documents specify. After the ceremony, make the face of a black cat, cross the face of el gato del negro leaving his eyes clear to watch the area you have protected. Make your mark to seal the protection. (sign your initials) leave it in the hands of San Cipriano. One Mexican guy that contacted me after my video got upset when I questioned him about it. He said and I quote. "You no believe me? Make a shirt (t-shirt) with this symbol on it and walk around Mexico. See what happen"! I have had five guys all from old Mexico contact me in my videos telling me the same thing. Anyone can read their comments in the feed. Salvador also made a comment on the video then erased it because what he wrote made him nervous. If you contact him ask him about that. Salvador told me where I could go to see some old ones but warned me not to photograph them or I could adopt the curse. I haven't gone to see them yet. I have also had old timers tell me that there were cat face symbols in the Uintas prior to Shirl Atwood. None of the people I have talked to had any reason to lie. In a court of law in the mouth of two or more witnesses makes a case. Thats where i am at. If your serious about the journey I will email you and give you all the info I have uncovered. If I had to guess Shirl was LDS and he or one of his family went on an LDS mission to a Latin America Country and learned about their superstitions and used it in jest or saw an older mark on a tree and liked it. My own signature tree mark came in the same fashion. Anyone that knows it knows who made the mark because of the date....but I was not the first to use the mark. I got it from an old timer that is deceased that I admired. My 2 cents
@@treasureexplorationandrese3712 This has been fun, but I'm going to end it here. I've shown you how you can demonstrate your belief. Simply purchase the book on Amazon for $28 bucks and find the image. I'm positive you will be disappointed, but I wish you good luck.
Are the Spanish mines dated before America was founded? 1700s?
Honestly, there is no clear consensus on when the Spaniards entered the Uintah Basin for mining purposes. I believe they started to arrive sometime after the Escalante and Dominquez expedition of 1776 and called it quits sometime before the mountain men started to arrive in the 1820's.
Other people place the date earlier and believe they were in the area prior to Escalante and Dominquez. I have found dates carved on rock from the Spaniards dated 1818, so I know they were here during that time for certain.
@@LowBudgetExploration thank you
2023- TRUST NO ONE
LOL. Sometimes it feels that way, but I'm a "glass half full" sorta guy. Maybe 2024 will bring back your trust my friend.