Jordan SMASHES LeBron In The Goat Debate 😲🐐

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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  • @Ben-gd9zz
    @Ben-gd9zz 8 месяцев назад +200

    Why is Lebron wearing 23? because MJ is the GOAT, on the court, off it, sneaker deals, movies, documentaries anything MJ did became the blueprint to copy.

    • @GoudaTheCavalier
      @GoudaTheCavalier 7 месяцев назад +3

      We all love MJ for his shoes. We don’t care for his selfish plays. He’s equivalent to Wilt, except wilt only won 6 rings. Remember it’s a team game, it’s not about one player so don’t get it twisted.

    • @jayrush5141
      @jayrush5141 7 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@GoudaTheCavalier wilt won 6 rings? 😂 kid. just sleep.

    • @AdmiralMayo
      @AdmiralMayo 7 месяцев назад +4

      Bro thinks mj is the goat basketball player cause he has nice shoes lol

    • @GoudaTheCavalier
      @GoudaTheCavalier 6 месяцев назад +3

      So because someone looks up to someone the ycant be better? Wtf?

    • @Ben-gd9zz
      @Ben-gd9zz 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@GoudaTheCavalier come on kid don’t get emotional over meaningless things lol

  • @yaboy1414
    @yaboy1414 Год назад +552

    Off the court lmao 😅😅😅😅
    Mane stop it lol

    • @melvinglosen6649
      @melvinglosen6649 Год назад

      @yaboy1414 Seriously bro off court gtfoh.😆😆😆

    • @kevmersa6578
      @kevmersa6578 Год назад +1

      Facts!

    • @zavdab5238
      @zavdab5238 11 месяцев назад +17

      Boy moved the goal posts to a different country

    • @just_jeff4839
      @just_jeff4839 11 месяцев назад +6

      "off the court" WTF MJ is still dominating off the court... there's a really good reason why Jordan brand eclipses all other NBA players brands... like yo, that's off the court.

    • @Nysdaddy
      @Nysdaddy 11 месяцев назад +1

      @just…
      That really good reason was what Mike did on the court. His accomplishments on the court made everything off the court as successful & impactful or whatever as it has been all these years.
      It’s the same thing with Mike’s 6-0…he’s not the Goat because he has a 6-0 record in the Finals, that ninja went 6-0 in the Finals because he’s the best and most complete player ever, the Goat.

  • @ovithegreat8817
    @ovithegreat8817 11 месяцев назад +46

    The “off the court” argument is ridiculous

    • @2playschemeo.p.croutes724
      @2playschemeo.p.croutes724 Месяц назад

      MJ fans Love the game of basketball
      LBJ fans, “it’s just basketball at the end of the day”

    • @anonymousk1634
      @anonymousk1634 День назад

      😂😂😂 Lebron love the kids that’s why he’s the goat

  • @specterone2474
    @specterone2474 Год назад +207

    Off the court. That dude a weirdo.

    • @nassiglutt6587
      @nassiglutt6587 Год назад +2

      Tbf to him he still said MJ is the best at basketball

    • @DCJ9
      @DCJ9 Год назад +2

      Who?

    • @FireAttack0811
      @FireAttack0811 Год назад +3

      Okay so you saying that jordan sneaker deals and the fact that jordan made the nba more popular is thrown out the window okay okay

    • @specterone2474
      @specterone2474 Год назад

      @@FireAttack0811 That has nothing to do with why he's the goat. Okay okay.

    • @FireAttack0811
      @FireAttack0811 Год назад +2

      @@specterone2474 Then why people keep bringing it up in goat conversations

  • @jevonbrown1737
    @jevonbrown1737 Год назад +335

    Did she just say offensive player of the year?????

    • @davids.7845
      @davids.7845 Год назад +79

      They stay making up awards for a dude they never even watched 😂😂 the only game she’s been alive to see Mj play is craps at the Bellagio

    • @MrDoublebeats
      @MrDoublebeats Год назад +135

      ​@@davids.7845well he won MVP(which is what I think she was talking about) DPOY, as well as All defense and NBA first team as well as lead the league in scoring and steals in one season. I have never seen another person ever do that

    • @scarfacetheadonis2269
      @scarfacetheadonis2269 Год назад +5

      ​@@davids.7845🤣🤣🤣bro i was like what???!!!

    • @KERNZSPORTSPRODUCTIONS
      @KERNZSPORTSPRODUCTIONS Год назад +61

      MVP !!! My guy you know what she meant.

    • @stevesfair
      @stevesfair Год назад +50

      ​@@KERNZSPORTSPRODUCTIONS😂 they trying to be all technical for no reason knowing they knew what she meant.....

  • @BAABPC
    @BAABPC Год назад +314

    How did she throw the shoe deal in and then rule out all the off the court stuff?!

    • @Meccanoltd
      @Meccanoltd Год назад +12

      Women…………. It’s a whole new ball game. You can’t sit here and tell me the game doesn’t evolve and it’s stayed the same. The reason why there is an argument is because it isn’t clear who is GOAT

    • @yung2o365
      @yung2o365 Год назад

      😂

    • @remnant8898
      @remnant8898 Год назад +61

      the shoe deal is related to basketball......

    • @mr.getitdone6543
      @mr.getitdone6543 Год назад +40

      ​@remnant8898 exactly.. they're just trying to find something wrong with the woman's opinion or they just are in love with Bron

    • @HoopVerse360
      @HoopVerse360 Год назад +27

      because sneakers and shoe deals are part of basketball, it is on the court.

  • @deontei1
    @deontei1 Год назад +753

    When she said she didnt have to watch Jordan play, she lost all credibility in this convo

    • @x18dicekx
      @x18dicekx Год назад +107

      And doubled down by bringing up sneaker sales lmao

    • @isaiahzay3392
      @isaiahzay3392 Год назад +11

      💯

    • @chasenickles260
      @chasenickles260 Год назад +232

      Shes right though.. if you never watched a game in your life and someone gives you lebron and michael jordon resume and ask you which one is the g.o.a.t , who do you think people are gonna pick

    • @sportspsp
      @sportspsp Год назад +18

      ⁠@@chasenickles260you can actually watch the game to make an argument for Bron. That’s why we watch the game based every component such as playmaking, ballhandling, defense, shooting, accolades and more. Even though MJ is the goat, doesn’t you can’t watch 🏀 and not make a point

    • @thottydagod457
      @thottydagod457 Год назад +94

      i didnt watch jordan play...i know he the goat

  • @chrystianfrey2983
    @chrystianfrey2983 Год назад +104

    She acts like she's so well educated but doesn't know the offensive player of they year award doesn't exist..

    • @ERizzo5
      @ERizzo5 Год назад +40

      She means scoring title. And yes jordan won the scoring title and DPOTY in the same season. He’s won multiple scoring titles, mvps, 1st team all defense in the same season. This debate isn’t really close.

    • @StarryNight4024
      @StarryNight4024 Год назад +18

      MJ has 10 scoring titles while LeBron has one. Its not even close.

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn Год назад +8

      @@StarryNight4024Lebron didn’t make scoring his number one priority like Jordan did…different styles of play…Lebron dished out 8AST a game to help his teammates

    • @Imfrombroward_jit
      @Imfrombroward_jit Год назад

      U don’t know what these females know don’t understand cause of gender

    • @natedablack7857
      @natedablack7857 11 месяцев назад +7

      @Turkeycock28
      Well, prior to MJ's Wizard seasons lowering some of his career avgs (assists being one of 'em), when he retired in '98 his apg avg stood at 7 a game.
      Which means that he was handing out 7apg to "help his teammates", while playing OFF the ball.
      LBJ on the other hand, avgs 7apg as the facilitator.
      Let that sink in for a min....

  • @camgrizzly
    @camgrizzly Год назад +51

    Not her off court argument is his shoes 😂

    • @rackball5858
      @rackball5858 Год назад +19

      His shoes are a by-product of him on the court.

    • @camgrizzly
      @camgrizzly Год назад +5

      @@rackball5858 does that make his off court better than Bron's?

    • @rackball5858
      @rackball5858 Год назад

      @@camgrizzly Nope. If the only way to pimp up Lebron is to discuss “off court” greatness, then the debate is dead. Both are extreme capitalists. Anyone who thinks that the I Promise school is coming totally out of Lebron’s pockets, I’ve got a house on the lake to sell to you. Lebron’s family man image hasn’t been dented yet because he hasn’t been busted.

    • @mr.getitdone6543
      @mr.getitdone6543 Год назад +1

      ​@@rackball5858🎯🎯🎯

    • @HoopVerse360
      @HoopVerse360 Год назад

      shoes or shoe sales is not off the court. i mean you can't play basketball without a pair and it's part of the game and culture 😄. being a philantrophy doesn't involve anything with basketball so that's off the court.

  • @dreqwonjohnson9827
    @dreqwonjohnson9827 Год назад +52

    You don’t wanna talk about his impact on the world but you talk about Jordan’s shoe deals make it make sense

    • @eddiegarcia8040
      @eddiegarcia8040 Год назад +7

      Nobody cares about his global impact off the court when we're discussing who's the goat if that's bron fans fallback then I'm sorry😂

    • @Fluiad
      @Fluiad 11 месяцев назад +1

      More people know jordan than lebron

    • @aceofspades4312
      @aceofspades4312 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Fluiadsays who?

    • @Fluiad
      @Fluiad 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@aceofspades4312 Who tf is wearing Lebron's?

    • @aceofspades4312
      @aceofspades4312 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@Fluiad who tf said anything about their sneakers?… I’m talking about as a person

  • @yaboy1414
    @yaboy1414 Год назад +17

    I ain’t never went to
    The gym and picked up players based on what they do off the court lmaoo.
    Be in the gym talking about is you a good dad ? Do you help out in the community. Ok bet I got u. 😂😂😂

  • @howardwayne8288
    @howardwayne8288 7 месяцев назад +4

    Dude changed the conversation into a human character debate 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣🤣

  • @coachnix8678
    @coachnix8678 Год назад +6

    Moving the goalpost to off the court is wild😂

  • @ericdavis2928
    @ericdavis2928 Год назад +38

    Wilt and alcindor were dominating and changed the game

    • @kanyesburner1189
      @kanyesburner1189 Год назад +6

      I get that alcindor is his birth name but why not just call him Kareem

    • @kingsweattv2465
      @kingsweattv2465 Год назад +3

      @@kanyesburner1189 His mother called him alcindor, and would you call your father, "mother" just because he asked??

    • @kanyesburner1189
      @kanyesburner1189 Год назад +3

      @@kingsweattv2465 that’s completely different because Kareem legally changed his name

    • @Red-Hood
      @Red-Hood Год назад

      ​@@kanyesburner1189yeah its weird its like calling Ali cashus clay.

    • @PanahProductions
      @PanahProductions 11 месяцев назад

      Michael Jordan is a philanthropist he just doesn’t compete like Lebron in philanthropy to be a better human. Jordan has done a lot more than people credit him ALOT MORE

  • @mr.somulatto5326
    @mr.somulatto5326 Год назад +78

    She debunks Lebron for his involvement in the community but wants to bring up Jordan’s shoe deals and the relationship between shoes and other Athletes. FOH.

    • @geeaye4223
      @geeaye4223 Год назад +32

      Humanitarianism has nothing to do with basketball but sneaker sales do

    • @HoopVerse360
      @HoopVerse360 Год назад +12

      Because sneakers and shoe deals are part of basketball. can't play without shoes "on the court". being a philantrophy doesn't .

    • @Vscounter
      @Vscounter Год назад +2

      Let's not forget that MJ is still getting paid for his signature of the shoe. Who else had a deal like that before him?

    • @dually81
      @dually81 Год назад +1

      That's always been a hard one for me, as I've gotten older I realize some people just aren't built for community activism and that's all right...
      But MJ, he just don't give a foook bout nobody tho!!! LoL
      I love LeBron and hate Jordan, but MJ is still the GOAT.

    • @exgeeinteractive
      @exgeeinteractive Год назад

      Lebron's school is funded by taxes. Nothing of it came from his pockets.
      Humanitarian my ass

  • @chucky8819
    @chucky8819 Год назад +31

    We’re not talking about philanthropy but she said Jordan changed the game cause of his shoe deal lol 😂😂

    • @FuhqEwe
      @FuhqEwe 11 месяцев назад +24

      The deal opened the door for _all_ athletes, changing the _sport_ itself. That’s not philanthropy.

    • @ImBarryScottCSS
      @ImBarryScottCSS 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@FuhqEweHow much money athletes make off shoe deals has fuck all to do with who was a better basketball player.

    • @FuhqEwe
      @FuhqEwe 11 месяцев назад +11

      @@ImBarryScottCSS I’m not sure if you have a cognitive impairment or you’ve just commented on the wrong thing.

    • @bboywolf
      @bboywolf 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@ImBarryScottCSSif lebron didnt have all his sneaker endorsements he wouldnt have gone to miami and taken a paycut... if michael jordan didnt do his 1 year 30 mil deal lebron wouldnt have thought to do the same in cleveland... jordan upped the value of an all time great player allowing them to dictate more of what happens on their team. Something lebron directly benefitted from

    • @kobediedlol1757
      @kobediedlol1757 8 месяцев назад

      That changed the marketing of basketball not the actual game itself.
      Try again son​@@FuhqEwe

  • @user-bd3zy6wo7l
    @user-bd3zy6wo7l 6 месяцев назад +10

    SHE NOT BAREFOOT, NOT PREGNANT, NOT IN THE KITCHEN. .
    but she COOKED that fool😮

  • @Ballsohard_97
    @Ballsohard_97 Год назад +9

    Ashley attitude towards Lebron talks = Joy Tay attitude towards Cowboys
    Lmao nickname her Ms. Petty 2.0

  • @thekobechannel4610
    @thekobechannel4610 8 месяцев назад +56

    This woman is absolutely correct Michael Jordan is the GOAT

    • @Bungycb
      @Bungycb 8 месяцев назад +2

      1-9 without pippen

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn 7 месяцев назад +5

      Most overrated player in the history of sports

    • @reptar5124
      @reptar5124 7 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@BungycbHis only Allstar teammate while LeBron had the MOST ever of any player so COPE

    • @2HAPPI
      @2HAPPI 7 месяцев назад

      @@MeekMillisbendingoverrndo you even KNOW the other player in this video

    • @user-mh6nm5mv4b
      @user-mh6nm5mv4b 7 месяцев назад

      @@MeekMillisbendingoverrnwho Lebron?

  • @93deiondavis
    @93deiondavis Год назад +10

    It's really going to always be debatable on who's the goat of any sport.

    • @jhad777
      @jhad777 Год назад +1

      Everything is debatable but what’s not debatable is that the vast majority of people say Jordan is the GOAT

    • @andrewlynch9586
      @andrewlynch9586 Год назад +1

      NFL isn't debatable...it's clearly Tom Brady

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn 9 месяцев назад

      Most sports actually have a definitive GOAT lol idk what you talking bout

  • @chasenickles260
    @chasenickles260 Год назад +37

    Tell em ashley.....and lol at the dude who was trying to play both sides with that off the court on the court nonsense 😂

    • @ericdavis2928
      @ericdavis2928 Год назад

      Off the court mj is yrash😢

    • @hennndo
      @hennndo Год назад +1

      Mike was getting his head beat in the 80s lmfaoooooo, but yeah let's only talk bout 90s mike

  • @StraightFromDC
    @StraightFromDC 6 месяцев назад +2

    Every single student in LeBrons iPromise Academy’s 8th grade class failed the Ohio State math test last year so why do people keep showing the school like it’s something to be proud about? 💯

  • @christopherquaye1633
    @christopherquaye1633 8 месяцев назад +3

    He changed the game globally too. Ppl dont talk about that

  • @JoshuaWarrington10
    @JoshuaWarrington10 Год назад +22

    LBJ-
    4x Rings❌, 4x FMVP❌, 4x MVP❌, 0x DPOY❌, 1x Scoring Champ❌,1x AST Champ✔, 0x STL Champ❌, 6x All-Defensive 1st Team❌, 19x All-Star✔, 3x All-Star MVP, 0x NBA Slam Dunk Contest❌, ROTY, 18x Total Awards & Trophies❌
    27.2 PPG❌, 7.5 RPG✔, 7.3 APG✔, 1.5 SPG❌, 0.8 BPG, 3.5 TPG❌, 1.8 PF✔
    50.5 FG%✔ 34.5 3PT%✔ 73.5 FT%❌
    27.2 PER❌ .226 WS/48❌
    (20 Season's)
    Longevity✔
    82 Games Played: 1x❌
    28.5 PPG, 9.0 RBG✔, 7.2 APG✔, 1.7 SPG❌, 1.0 BPG✔, 3.6 TPG❌, 2.3 PF✔
    49.5 FG%✔ 33.1 3PT%❌ 74.1 FT%❌
    27.9 PER❌ .238 WS/48❌
    MJ-
    6x Rings✔, 6x FMVP✔, 5x MVP✔, 1x DPOY✔, 10x Scoring Champ✔, 0x AST Champ❌, 3x STL Champ✔, 9x All-Defensive 1st Team✔, 14x All-Star❌, 3x All-Star MVP, 2x NBA Slam Dunk Contest✔, ROTY, 37x Total Awards & Trophies✔
    Regular Season-
    30.1 PPG✔, 6.2 RPG❌, 5.3 APG❌, 2.3 SPG✔, 0.8 BPG, 2.7 TPG✔, 2.6 PF❌
    49.7 FG%❌ 33.2 3PT%❌ 83.5 FT%✔
    27.9 PER✔ .250 WS/48✔
    (15 Seasons)
    Longevity❌
    82 Games Played 9x✔
    Playoffs-
    33.4 PPG✔, 6.4 RBG❌, 5.7 APG❌, 2.1 SPG✔, 0.9 BPG, 3.1 TPG✔, 3.0 PF❌
    48.7 FG%❌ 33.2 3PT%✔ 82.8 FT%✔
    28.6 PER✔ .255 WS/48✔
    MJ: 23✔ MJ :12❌
    LBJ: 13✔ LBJ: 22❌
    Its clear as day who better and more complete. And more importantly a better winner.
    The only answer is the true 23.

    • @Caine462
      @Caine462 8 месяцев назад +8

      Jordan.

    • @d3adyoutubeaccount
      @d3adyoutubeaccount 7 месяцев назад

      Kareem, Bill Russell and Wilt are better than MJ by ur logic

    • @anthonystevenson830
      @anthonystevenson830 7 месяцев назад

      ​@tableswastaken and all together still better than lebron

    • @Axoneba-hp1by
      @Axoneba-hp1by 7 месяцев назад

      @@anthonystevenson830lol

    • @Axoneba-hp1by
      @Axoneba-hp1by 7 месяцев назад

      Certified hater 😂

  • @thejerharts
    @thejerharts Год назад +53

    Have her whip out the stats before Pippen arrived… just saying 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @imakebeatsxwillfrmda6230
      @imakebeatsxwillfrmda6230 Год назад +31

      Crazy y'all say that but Bron was doing nada until he started forming super teams .. y'all talk Scottie but show me a player Bron has made great like Scottie

    • @miso84
      @miso84 Год назад +26

      They were crazy! Probably the best basketball stats in a stretch EVER! He just didn’t have any support.

    • @thejerharts
      @thejerharts Год назад +7

      @@nolyfeedawggameplay his personal stats were great, but check his playoff stats!! TERRIBLE

    • @michaelmann5501
      @michaelmann5501 Год назад +9

      Jordan Was Incredible before Pippen Arrived

    • @michaelmann5501
      @michaelmann5501 Год назад +3

      Did u watch Jordan In The Beginning? Dude was Incredible.

  • @KP43-08
    @KP43-08 8 месяцев назад +2

    This debate will go on after I’m dead and I’m 22 it will never end sports are debatable! Can’t just say one person is good at one sport it’s all about perspective and personal opinions.

    • @Epicentr
      @Epicentr 7 месяцев назад

      Nope, your favorite player does not make them the goat. Stats rule.

    • @KP43-08
      @KP43-08 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Epicentr not necessarily

  • @elvingallard7255
    @elvingallard7255 Год назад +1

    The Bulls were loaded, Pippen, Kukoc Rodman, Harper. The rest of the 90s teams were not great teams, the Knicks were Ewing and a bunch of role players Charlie Ward a football player was the PG.

  • @Kagesama1479
    @Kagesama1479 Год назад +9

    She was keeping it basketball 💯, as he was losing the argument he brought off the field issue into the goat conversation. 🤦‍♂️

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 11 месяцев назад +1

      Dude actually took the feminine position talking about “but he’s such a good person”.

    • @veksone77
      @veksone77 8 месяцев назад +1

      She brought up shoe deals foh

  • @tavius88
    @tavius88 Год назад +43

    I like her, she knows her stuff

    • @sportstalkonly1442
      @sportstalkonly1442 Год назад +16

      She really dont lmao

    • @Don2woshiftey
      @Don2woshiftey Год назад +20

      @@sportstalkonly1442she literally said she didn’t even watch him play tf did she just look at his stats? 😂

    • @justice8193
      @justice8193 Год назад +1

      Superteam

    • @LilVenetian
      @LilVenetian Год назад +7

      She made up an award and listed very surface level facts that the casual nba viewer is familiar with.

    • @zavdab5238
      @zavdab5238 11 месяцев назад +2

      Two three peats with a retirement in between vs super team hopper. 3 all stars buddy up in Miami, left cavs for dead then return when love and kyrie are there. Rich Paul force trades AD to Lakers for a summer camp mickey mouse ring.

  • @chadcat420
    @chadcat420 6 месяцев назад +2

    Michael Jordan retired from the game for 2 years, then came back and won 3 straight. Jordan got drunk one day playing golf then scored 52 vs the Cavs that same night. LeQueen cries for respect and thinks he's a politician

  • @TonySoul
    @TonySoul 5 дней назад

    She didnt even watch him play!!!! Thats how half these people sound. Insane!

  • @KDogduval
    @KDogduval Год назад +35

    She bodied dude...he's worm food💯

    • @joeyvergara8650
      @joeyvergara8650 11 месяцев назад

      for reals...lol

    • @debo10100
      @debo10100 9 месяцев назад

      Dude uses the worse defense ever lmao.... It's so much more he could have said lmao.... But he chose that

    • @JohnBurgundy
      @JohnBurgundy 8 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂😂

  • @frankiefernandez9225
    @frankiefernandez9225 Год назад +45

    Jordan is the Goat no matter what universe you from

    • @hyperflame7255
      @hyperflame7255 10 месяцев назад +1

      Nah There Is No Goat

    • @frankiefernandez9225
      @frankiefernandez9225 10 месяцев назад

      @@hyperflame7255 🐐

    • @QuavoGotFame
      @QuavoGotFame 9 месяцев назад +6

      Lebrons better than him in all of them

    • @frankiefernandez9225
      @frankiefernandez9225 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@QuavoGotFame 😂😂😂 4 outta 10 in the finals with superteams in 20 seasons while flopping 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 goats don’t flop, and all of the greats have winning records in the finals coz that’s what you play for in case you didn’t know…and by the way tell Lechoke the Joker said easy money 🤑🤑🤑 and then tell the Joker Lechoke wants his broom 🧹 back 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 by the way Leflop is wearing number 23 this season 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

    • @MattGWK
      @MattGWK 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@frankiefernandez9225Jordan played 15 seasons, why you just ignoring the other 9? 😅

  • @eastbee103
    @eastbee103 11 месяцев назад +1

    Lebron i promise students cannot do math!!

  • @YvngGoat_
    @YvngGoat_ 8 месяцев назад +1

    Offensive player of the year is an award? 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

  • @elburonando1104
    @elburonando1104 8 месяцев назад +11

    Awesome !! She schooled you boys . She ain’t lying Michael Jordan the goat.

  • @federicoledezma4058
    @federicoledezma4058 Год назад +25

    Jordan da G.O.A.T. period

    • @sportstalkonly1442
      @sportstalkonly1442 11 месяцев назад +4

      The goat of beating weak watered down competition?

    • @zavdab5238
      @zavdab5238 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@sportstalkonly1442they only look weak because them bulls stomping everyone

    • @Breakingthesilence0522
      @Breakingthesilence0522 10 месяцев назад +4

      Weak era goat 😂😂

    • @sportstalkonly1442
      @sportstalkonly1442 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@zavdab5238 it's easy to stomp everyone when u have the best team.

    • @ShortSegaa
      @ShortSegaa 10 месяцев назад

      @@sportstalkonly1442nah jordan just made them look ez LMAO

  • @THRE3KINGZStudios3kz
    @THRE3KINGZStudios3kz 11 месяцев назад +1

    Bill Russell had 11 rings… Wilt Chamberlain had 100pts and a bunch of all time records. Kareem Abdul Jabbar have all time career records that’s been recently broken by Lebron…
    I believe in every era has their GOATs . The game is basketball changed from the defensive style/play, 3pts, rules, etc.
    Every GOAT played to their advantage.

  • @The_Com-Mentor
    @The_Com-Mentor 21 день назад

    She made all the key points that end the argument, but how can she confidently say she didn't need to watch Jordan play to know. She sounds like she's on autopilot after growing up with a serious father.

  • @FirstBallot7
    @FirstBallot7 Год назад +15

    Sister, whoever she is, said all that needs to be said.. Straight SMACK DOWN.... Not to mention that she fine as hell too, Good Lawd!

  • @chriswallace2085
    @chriswallace2085 Год назад +16

    And her daddy got her brain washed if you never seen him play then how can you claim he’s the goat!!! Sounds like she’s been listening to her dad and uncles!!!

    • @rackball5858
      @rackball5858 Год назад +14

      Basically every Jordan game is available online. In color too. It’s not like he played in the 40’s or 50’s.

    • @lookatzay4813
      @lookatzay4813 Год назад +2

      Right! I just said that

    • @kevmersa6578
      @kevmersa6578 Год назад

      At least she had a daddy. Unlike that fatherless 8 point scoring in the finals bum

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn Год назад

      @@rackball5858yeah and we’ve seen better

    • @minnesotafats8140
      @minnesotafats8140 11 месяцев назад +7

      Michael Jordan’s the final boss of basketball.

  • @charlesdobronxoliveira6533
    @charlesdobronxoliveira6533 11 месяцев назад +1

    a casual female saying she didn't watch jordan play is all you need to know people forget jordan played in an expansion era and has the best team every team without him the bulls were a 55 win team with lebron the cavs was a 18 win do a lot of haters and logical fans not put context into competition and eras to say the 90s era is more skilled is like saying you don't or never watched basketball back then compared to lebron era the athletes are way better and way way more skilled not to mention guards in jordan era was 6-1 let that sink in context matters people

  • @konejo-malo1689
    @konejo-malo1689 8 месяцев назад +11

    In his Prime MJ would break LeBron down mentally before and during the game

    • @goodguyscomelast2029
      @goodguyscomelast2029 8 месяцев назад +7

      Y’all swear the nba is some anime😭

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn 7 месяцев назад +2

      This mentality shit y’all always talking about is so fucking Wack🤣 y’all act like Jordan went 15/15 his entire career

  • @kllipsninja1138
    @kllipsninja1138 Год назад +7

    Love the young lady’s comments. She spoke straight facts. When it comes to basketball MJ is on a different level. When you think of others who chanted the game AI (small guard) whose was fearless and his swag is seen in the league today. Shaq - just huge, in the modern game he was unguardable, then there Steph - his shooting accuracy and distance has forever changed how the game is played.
    Bron is great but he has not changed the game bc Magic was doing what he does before him. I am a Kobe fan, but Kobe was MJ 2.0. Kobe’s insane work ethic and pursuit to perfection on his skills will never be matched but it didn’t change the game.

    • @laserchiefwankoo204
      @laserchiefwankoo204 Год назад +1

      The only way mj changed the game was when the bulls went crying to the league about the pistons. That started all the soft rules of today

    • @ShortSegaa
      @ShortSegaa 10 месяцев назад

      @@laserchiefwankoo2046-0

  • @TheMiG96
    @TheMiG96 46 минут назад

    Damn that lady killed it . MJ is what Pele is to football and Ali is to boxing . Bye

  • @nobra630
    @nobra630 6 месяцев назад

    USA: mj vs LeBron
    WORLD: messi vs ronaldo

  • @daimionhollins528
    @daimionhollins528 Год назад +4

    I like her! Right to the point, hands down!
    MJ the GOAT 🐐

  • @mylaughingeffect3459
    @mylaughingeffect3459 Год назад +4

    Some women shouldn’t talk sports if they ain’t joy Taylor🤣🤣🤣

  • @nyonthemap617
    @nyonthemap617 11 месяцев назад +1

    She is like most mj fans. And rapper fans. Just a fan because everyone else said so

  • @lookatzay4813
    @lookatzay4813 Год назад +15

    The media loves mj so much they even got people who ain’t even watch play saying he’s the goat😂

    • @paulalbert6970
      @paulalbert6970 Год назад +10

      The media loves Lebron so much they try to move the goal post to make him the GOAT.. They think of other stats so they can have a case for Lebron..

    • @andrewlynch9586
      @andrewlynch9586 Год назад

      so did you have to be alive in the 1700s to say George Washington is the greatest president? Your logic is idiotic, people can study history and make a determination we do it everyday

  • @strauqq1
    @strauqq1 3 месяца назад +3

    Lol how is this even a debate? Jordan is Rolls Royce, Lebron is Toyota. Take your f*ckin pick.

  • @edwardhicks9481
    @edwardhicks9481 9 месяцев назад

    Off the court has nothing to do with who is a better basketball player overall

  • @kareemjordan6780
    @kareemjordan6780 11 месяцев назад +7

    Unlike most women, she suddenly became hotter when she started talking

    • @MyAb111
      @MyAb111 10 месяцев назад

      Facts

    • @goodguyscomelast2029
      @goodguyscomelast2029 9 месяцев назад +2

      -average Jordan fan💀

    • @donaldkey9074
      @donaldkey9074 9 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@goodguyscomelast2029 that’s the type of comeback one would expect from an uneducated Lebron nut licker.
      The average Jordan fan is much more knowledgeable than anyone so incapable of understanding the game of basketball to think it’s even comparable between the 2.
      Lebron is the most overrated player in NBA history
      One look at your profile tells us all we need to know, little kiddy with his cartoons 😂

    • @MINK2393
      @MINK2393 9 месяцев назад

      @@goodguyscomelast2029All the facts point to Jordan.. All Lebron fans do is ale hypotheticals and longevity

    • @goodguyscomelast2029
      @goodguyscomelast2029 9 месяцев назад

      @@MINK2393 if we’re gonna just look at number of rings and ignore all context like a robot then bill russel is the goat

  • @bucsgang7003
    @bucsgang7003 Год назад +6

    Lebron is the GOAT and I grew up on Jordan seen him 3 peat twice and all that stuff she listed off

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 11 месяцев назад +1

      How can the 🐐 have a losing finals record? We’re talking below .500

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn 9 месяцев назад

      @@ralegade7710use context…Jordan doesn’t beat one team that Bron lost too…you can’t just go off stats lol

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 9 месяцев назад

      @@MeekMillisbendingoverrn Jordan would trash the Mavericks. The Warriors would be interesting considering it’s the greatest perimeter shooters of all time vs the greatest perimeter defense of all time. Against Spurs would be a win in 6.

    • @user-zj8vg3of8x
      @user-zj8vg3of8x 9 месяцев назад

      @@ralegade7710is goat a person or a team? Like everyone says context matters.

    • @user-zj8vg3of8x
      @user-zj8vg3of8x 9 месяцев назад

      @@ralegade7710how can the goat have a losing record without Scottie Pippen? How can the goat have 0 winning seasons without Scottie Pippen?

  • @sportspsp
    @sportspsp Год назад +2

    I agree Jordan is better, but I vehemently disagree when Ashley said we don’t even need to watch the game to determine who’s the 🐐

    • @thottydagod457
      @thottydagod457 Год назад

      i didnt watch Jordan play...i now hes the GOAT tho

    • @sportspsp
      @sportspsp Год назад

      @@thottydagod457then you don’t know basketball

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 11 месяцев назад +1

      She meant she didn’t need to be around to watch that era in real time. In the next sentence she literally says she knows the history.

  • @ShortSegaa
    @ShortSegaa 10 месяцев назад +6

    He literally just called MJ the GOAT. “On the court Jordan is the GOAT” GGs Jordan wins

  • @latinorock
    @latinorock 11 месяцев назад +1

    Keep it about Basketball when it comes to GOAT convos...If the player does not have more than 6 Finals MVPs , there is no comparison. Bill Russell has 11 chips, he was not the best player on those NBA Finals runs, and there were less than 20 teams in the league.

  • @steelmill7016
    @steelmill7016 Год назад +4

    Jordan got 2 3-Peats. If he didn’t retire early to play baseball, Bulls would’ve won 8-in-a-row!

    • @TayG_9Deuce
      @TayG_9Deuce Год назад +6

      You can't add what ifs to his legacy. If Kyrie aand Kevin Love ain't get hurt and KD ain't join the warriors Bron would've had a 4 peat. If Kobe and Shaq stayed together they would probably have 7 or 8 too

    • @KrosstownLandLord
      @KrosstownLandLord Год назад

      No

    • @laserchiefwankoo204
      @laserchiefwankoo204 Год назад +1

      Lmao you act like mj didn't fail to get the bulls to the finals in between those 3 peats.

    • @baruchwarrior2389
      @baruchwarrior2389 Год назад +2

      That’s debatable, because who on the Bulls would’ve even slowed down the Dream?
      Will Purdue? Bill Winington? Bill Cartwright?
      And I’m a life long Bulls fan, But Hakeem the Dream was a nightmare surrounded by shooters… I’m just saying. 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 11 месяцев назад

      @@baruchwarrior2389People often forget how well Pip did by himself those years. Hakeem definitely would’ve been a huge problem, but the Bulls would’ve still prevailed.

  • @bondinho6114
    @bondinho6114 Год назад +9

    Ashley is our 🐐

  • @creed200569
    @creed200569 Год назад +2

    MJ is on his own level. To try to put Lebron on the same pedestal is embarrassing.

  • @dubzerolol
    @dubzerolol 7 месяцев назад

    “I don’t need to watch a player play to know he’s the goat” … says alot lol

  • @Gutta2016
    @Gutta2016 Год назад +13

    She spoke facts

  • @ajthehandle9126
    @ajthehandle9126 Год назад +3

    She didn’t bring up none of the stuff for lebron but glaze mj on and off the court. She didn’t even watch him play

    • @ItsAlwaysHappyHour
      @ItsAlwaysHappyHour 7 месяцев назад

      Wrong. She didn't say that. She said, "I didn't NEED to watch Jordan play to know that he's the GOAT". Like I didn't need to be in Auschwitz to know the Nazis were bad people.

  • @justsayin669
    @justsayin669 7 месяцев назад

    She mentioned irrelevant sneaker deals and then shut down his irrelevant points about "humanitarianism" and "philanthropy"... Why can't we just stick to what happened on the court alone?

  • @derrrick7759
    @derrrick7759 8 месяцев назад +1

    Off the court? They burned his jerseys in his hometown Cleveland and Hong Kong. Hence, LeChina. 🤣

  • @hesolitty_
    @hesolitty_ Год назад +4

    Jordan fans love to forget about the 80’s

    • @mss3183
      @mss3183 Год назад +4

      No one has dummy…

    • @mss3183
      @mss3183 Год назад +1

      Name another player in the modern era that after just two championships.. they were calling him the greatest player … you don’t win back to back and people are calling you the goat unless your body of work in the previous years displayed that .. AKA his body of work in the 80s … plus yes he woke back to back.. but then to capitalize on that sht… he won the 3rd chip …

    • @mss3183
      @mss3183 Год назад

      Why would they make a movie about a player after 3 championships as if he’s the greatest player to ever live … the hype was unreal.. this is all before the second 3 peat bro

    • @mss3183
      @mss3183 Год назад +1

      His numbers and accolades back up the argument easily

    • @laserchiefwankoo204
      @laserchiefwankoo204 Год назад

      ​@@mss3183na is cuz the talent in the league was trash then

  • @pharoh32
    @pharoh32 Год назад +19

    Her logic is flawed

    • @LooseBooty-tv7ny
      @LooseBooty-tv7ny Год назад +5

      So is lebron hairline

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 11 месяцев назад

      @@LooseBooty-tv7nyYou’re going to hell! 😂😂😂😂

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn 7 месяцев назад

      @@LooseBooty-tv7nyJordan was ballsack bald his entire career

  • @nyonthemap617
    @nyonthemap617 11 месяцев назад +1

    The issue is, who was the goat before lebon, before mj. So if cant even see wilt, kareem as the goat then you dont even know when the next person took over hat position so u cant even speak. Kareem all day.

  • @BAClipz204
    @BAClipz204 7 месяцев назад +1

    Michael jordan did average 3 more points than lebron, but he also took 3 more shots per game.

    • @inokerogoyawa
      @inokerogoyawa 6 месяцев назад

      He also didn’t shoot as many 3’s so take that into consideration…

  • @dfwherbie8814
    @dfwherbie8814 Год назад +6

    Jordan was a loser for basically 8 seasons. One 6 rings. Then went back to being a loser on the wizards. So yeah, context matters

    • @lisarollins4880
      @lisarollins4880 8 месяцев назад

      😲........😆

    • @chrisnaylor013
      @chrisnaylor013 8 месяцев назад +2

      By that logic Lebron was a loser for 17 years cuz he only got 4 rings 😮‍💨

    • @dfwherbie8814
      @dfwherbie8814 8 месяцев назад

      @@chrisnaylor013 nope. Bc he carried that bum team to the finals at 21-22 years old. Jordon couldn’t bring his teams deep into the playoffs outside of those 6 years.

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn 7 месяцев назад

      @@chrisnaylor013you act like 4 is 10 behind 6…it’s only 2 behind and Jordan played bum ass teams to win his

    • @AB1B1
      @AB1B1 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@dfwherbie8814 You get no credit for carrying your team deep in the playoffs in the GOAT convo. You're using losing stats to claim a GOAT. How does that work?

  • @stevedickerson1535
    @stevedickerson1535 Год назад +3

    Idc that people think Jordan is the goat but the fact that ya act like lebron is not even worthy to be in that discussion is blasphemy

    • @rackball5858
      @rackball5858 Год назад

      He should be in the discussion for 2-7. He’s a Kevin Durant type career away from achieving what Jordan achieved in 7 fewer seasons.

    • @ralegade7710
      @ralegade7710 11 месяцев назад

      As someone who’s favorite player is Kobe, and even finds a hard time putting him in the top 5, Lebron is no where close.

    • @MeekMillisbendingoverrn
      @MeekMillisbendingoverrn 7 месяцев назад

      @@ralegade7710🤣keep hating old man

  • @lennybeason1110
    @lennybeason1110 6 месяцев назад

    Damn, the girl making more sense than the guys ‼️😂

  • @drujefe9679
    @drujefe9679 Год назад

    Lost all credibility when you say you didn’t have to watch 😂

  • @werdone2664
    @werdone2664 Год назад +5

    Maybe it’s because I’m from L.A but Kobe is my GOAT 🐐

  • @darylfields
    @darylfields Год назад +5

    The real g.o.a.t of NBA is Bill Russell

  • @All2True4life
    @All2True4life 20 часов назад

    Bill Russell just gets forgotten about…..

  • @user-fj2nt8dn5d
    @user-fj2nt8dn5d 5 месяцев назад +1

    U know Jordan is the GOAT when people have to bring up Bron building schools and marrying his highschool sweetheart to make a case for him being the GOAT.

  • @stephenneil9345
    @stephenneil9345 8 месяцев назад

    Off the court just stop. I can remember "i want to be like Mike ". Gatorade commercials. This dude was known world wide without Social Media.

  • @breezy7016
    @breezy7016 8 месяцев назад +1

    Young kids, I know the history of the game. There was a man called Bil Russell with 11 rings. Take that for a history lesson. But is he the goat ??

  • @Dbales34
    @Dbales34 6 месяцев назад

    "We're not talking about philanthropy" and "humanitarianism," yet one of the arguments cited for Jordan was "the sneaker deals." Ummm

  • @devonhemphill4363
    @devonhemphill4363 Год назад +2

    Thank you baby❤ you said it right

  • @CABRALCREATES
    @CABRALCREATES 11 месяцев назад

    Jordan also donates a ton or money the only difference is that he said, that he doesn't have to advertise that, big difference.

  • @ProtaJ
    @ProtaJ 10 месяцев назад

    I wasn’t born in the 60s but I know Russell and Chamberlain were the GOATs of that era…

  • @TNAGalaxyChannel
    @TNAGalaxyChannel 2 дня назад

    that woman knows her stuff

  • @kofiamoakosiawkasmow8889
    @kofiamoakosiawkasmow8889 Год назад +2

    Listen to the girl 😊

  • @Mirlean
    @Mirlean 28 дней назад

    If you only loom at rings your argument is pointless

  • @ricomontano2623
    @ricomontano2623 Год назад +1

    The Seth curry lookin dude and the shawty have no idea that sports over the years the competition has only gotten better and better

  • @ianazura7915
    @ianazura7915 10 месяцев назад

    1.Consistency:6-0 finals, 2× 3 PEATS, SCORING CHAMP,1ST DEFNSVE TEAM, 1ST TEAM most in the same yrs and in consecutive years...who does that. Good in defense and offense with ..Lebrun doesnt have 3 peat.. only been scoring champ once..
    2. Durability- he played 82 games 9 times and several of those on those championship years

  • @joshjones9749
    @joshjones9749 11 месяцев назад

    The first guy is basically saying its not even about basketball for him anymore. He just has unconditional love for Lebron so hes GOAT to him. This mindset is something ill never understand.

  • @bon2yan88
    @bon2yan88 11 месяцев назад +1

    "off the court" you lost me there

  • @sergiocappellino
    @sergiocappellino 5 месяцев назад

    Literally Jordan said that he's a product of his time

  • @quentondaniels8536
    @quentondaniels8536 9 месяцев назад

    They always have to add in other parts then play on the court. The GOAT argument is based on playing, not bullshit off the court.

  • @TetsunaSRO
    @TetsunaSRO 17 часов назад

    Off the court was next level bullshit...... come on man.

  • @chrishedricks308
    @chrishedricks308 22 часа назад

    Lebron has never been in the conversation

  • @ShhhTheFUp
    @ShhhTheFUp 6 дней назад

    Imagine your girl would get a invite to watch the game before you would just because of this. It shows you whos follows the game as apposed to who just watched a game

  • @douglassgarvey653
    @douglassgarvey653 10 месяцев назад +1

    Get her TF outta here lol. You don’t have to watch him play? This sums up most of MJs fanboys, people who were too young to watch him play and only seen RUclips clips lol

  • @dejirii
    @dejirii 2 месяца назад

    MJ only needs 32k+ pts to get 6 rings, while LBJ needs 40k+ pts for 4 rings.

  • @CrayCray9
    @CrayCray9 4 месяца назад +1

    Jordan put NBA on the global map. Jordan made NBA a global brand. No one outside Us would give a flying fuck about Lebron if it wasn’t for Jordan.

  • @matthewjordan7896
    @matthewjordan7896 Год назад +1

    Bro Jordan had the best team every year he won rings are team accomplishments

  • @DontaySmith6
    @DontaySmith6 10 месяцев назад

    When did we see a team recruit a top 3 player to beat Jordan.