"The expression steep learning curve is used with opposite meanings. Most sources, including the Oxford English Dictionary, the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, and Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, define a learning curve as the rate at which skill is acquired, so a steep increase would mean a quick increment of skill.[5][23] However, the term is often used in common English with the meaning of a difficult initial learning process." Translation: Austin Baraki speaks for the common man, while Jordan Feigenbaum speaks for academia
@@zeljko4189 not cheap, but cheaper than a SS seminar and more valuable information for your overall health. But not something that everyone can swing.
Common usage, and technical usage, of "steep learning curve" are opposite of each other, so the meaning depends upon which way you're using it. The phrase is an autoantonym.
I am making so much progress with the BBM programs but I want to say one thing about the SS linear progression. It taught me how to do the movements, got me to do reasonable loads pretty quickly and more importantly it taught me how to train. How to get in the gym and put the work in.
Learning curve = the amount of learning necessary to understand a subject or accomplish a task in a given amount of time. The more that needs to be learned and/or the shorter the given amount of time increases the steepness of the curve. A flat learning curve either means that a person has nothing to learn or that they fail in learning anything. (Jordan is correct if the person already knows what needs to be known or doesn’t learn what needs to be learned, Austin is correct if the person needs to learn and does learn.)
Great stuff Jordan, thanks. Will your online coaching course be part of the upcoming certification process? I'm very interested in getting a BBM certification. Will the certification(s) only be for very experienced coaches (like SSC) or will there be a formal education/training path through BBM for beginner coaches? I think some type of training for beginner coaches would be so helpful, instead of trying to fumble through that process alone. Isn't the goal to spread this type of training methodology to the broadest population, rather than being a select fraternity of 125 coaches? I get that having a firm understanding of the material and lifts is very import, but a 10% pass rate seems like it would be a disservice to the masses. I hope you guys can find a good balance.
Quick question if anyone can help me, with the Barbell Medicine templates, in the GPP, it has back work and Ab work usually a 5-10 min AMRAP, do I do these on all of the days in the program? Or just once a week each? For the cardio and arm GPP work it states either 1/week or 2/week but doesnt mention for the back and ab stuff. Cheers!
that moment when you get an epic intro and then the rest of it is just two dudes sitting in folding chairs talking just kidding of course, love the info!
This bugged me: Jordan and the learning curve: Effort on the y-axis, learning on the x-axis. Steep curve: More effort per "unit of learning", aka harder.
What you described would logically be called an effort curve. Jordan is completely correct if you take the word "learning curve" literally. However a steep learning curve might still be present without an accompanying feeling of increased mastery if the subject you're learning is complex enough that you're only learning fractions of it. This analogy requires too much mathematics to be worth exploring honestly, you can't even quantify learning like this.
I don' wanna come off as ungrateful and I appreciate the QAs, VLOGs, and live streams, but it's been a while since focused, long-form content; I'm sure finding time is difficult, but I'd really prefer all these people with sitting on their hills of knowledge to sit down and get into it instead of replying to tidbits
You may want to visit the resource section of the BBM website. I think the content you are looking for is presented via articles, the RUclips stuff is just supplemental. www.barbellmedicine.com/resources/
Just over here being sooooo extra. Hope you guys dig it. Share it on your social media and join the resistance!
Barbell Medicine u'z guyz being mensch's helping people wit their bench's and whatnot :-)!
Is this a reference to the track "Normal" on Eminem's new album Kamikaze?
Can you guys come out with a template on Myoreps @8 for Sleep?
Made some solid left ear gains listening to this talk.
Haha, I was wondering why I had no sound. Turns out my left speaker doesnt work...
Help me BBM, is this going to lead to muscle imbalances?? Or a left ear drum tear??
SO annoying hahahha
I was freaking out because I thought one of my speakers died
Man, Austin getting beefy. He would make a helluva 275.. 🤔
"The expression steep learning curve is used with opposite meanings. Most sources, including the Oxford English Dictionary, the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, and Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, define a learning curve as the rate at which skill is acquired, so a steep increase would mean a quick increment of skill.[5][23] However, the term is often used in common English with the meaning of a difficult initial learning process."
Translation: Austin Baraki speaks for the common man, while Jordan Feigenbaum speaks for academia
Sal Solis LOL
I always argue it knowledge over time. Can you even express that steep is difficult on a chart?
Andrew Dixon I guess if you flip it to Time over knowledge
Sal Solis Definitely on the list of things that bug me...could instead of couldn’t care less, literally used figuratively and so on.
Agreed in common parlance it is used in a metaphorical way, such as in reference to the difficulty of climbing a steep cliff.
Sound: 9/10.
Programming info: 10/10.
Austin's thighs: 11/10.
HBO intro: 13,5/10.
That learning curve for Austin learning about learning curves tho.
Came for the content, stayed to read the comments about Thiccc Austin.
Now Im not gay, but Baraki...
...is an absolute unit.
"She's about to have some eggs and oatmeal if you keep this up"
I thoroughly enjoy these videos.
This was the best $600 I've spent in some time. Such a great weekend.
B M 600? Ho lee fuk
@@zeljko4189 not cheap, but cheaper than a SS seminar and more valuable information for your overall health. But not something that everyone can swing.
Man, Jordan needs to start doing some powerlifting stand-up on the side!
Is that perspective or does Austin, in fact, have 42 inch thighs?
They are huge, so if they seem huge then that's the correct perspective.
Did you see the pictures of him during the deadlift at his recent competition? His quads looked prepared to blow the singlet clean off of him.
lOw BaR DoEsNt TrAiN tHa QuADz BrO
I left my sheet cake to watch this
I see what ya did there!
Just eating through my sticking points man
amazing developments in the barbell medicine field !
Common usage, and technical usage, of "steep learning curve" are opposite of each other, so the meaning depends upon which way you're using it. The phrase is an autoantonym.
Great intro. I feel like Alan had some directing input here.
I think it's cool Mike. T is your coach. Was blown away by him from your podcast with him.
I dare to say, probably the most enjoyable to watch video from one of your seminars so far!
I am making so much progress with the BBM programs but I want to say one thing about the SS linear progression. It taught me how to do the movements, got me to do reasonable loads pretty quickly and more importantly it taught me how to train. How to get in the gym and put the work in.
As always, incredible content but the audio quality could still use a boost. Absolutely nothing better than listening to these during GPP LISS
Favorite Q/A so far! Keep it up!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge guys. Love your work!
Thumbs up for the correction on proper usage of "steep learning curve"!
Best Q&A thus far. Especially the end.
50:56 WRECKED... Damn. That was righteous
Still waiting for people to get over that Austin, Jordan and Leah left Starting Strength...
Learning curve = the amount of learning necessary to understand a subject or accomplish a task in a given amount of time. The more that needs to be learned and/or the shorter the given amount of time increases the steepness of the curve. A flat learning curve either means that a person has nothing to learn or that they fail in learning anything. (Jordan is correct if the person already knows what needs to be known or doesn’t learn what needs to be learned, Austin is correct if the person needs to learn and does learn.)
Came so quick. Now I know why I’m single
Great stuff Jordan, thanks. Will your online coaching course be part of the upcoming certification process? I'm very interested in getting a BBM certification. Will the certification(s) only be for very experienced coaches (like SSC) or will there be a formal education/training path through BBM for beginner coaches? I think some type of training for beginner coaches would be so helpful, instead of trying to fumble through that process alone. Isn't the goal to spread this type of training methodology to the broadest population, rather than being a select fraternity of 125 coaches? I get that having a firm understanding of the material and lifts is very import, but a 10% pass rate seems like it would be a disservice to the masses. I hope you guys can find a good balance.
"Sleep at RPE 8" - LOL, so good xD
That high west double rye they're drinking is real good
Does anyone know where Austin buys his pants? I have such a hard time finding pants with enough thigh room
It looks like Austin has an extra panel of fabric when his thighs get thiccer
Lululemon ABC pants
Look for pantaloons.
Aye thanks for giving us all great knowledge and great laughs !
Hi Jordon, I'm eating chicken and rice.
Hahahaha
What are you gonna do, not sleep?
Thanks for the free content.
This new introduction is thicccc AF. We love you guys.
Quick question if anyone can help me, with the Barbell Medicine templates, in the GPP, it has back work and Ab work usually a 5-10 min AMRAP, do I do these on all of the days in the program? Or just once a week each? For the cardio and arm GPP work it states either 1/week or 2/week but doesnt mention for the back and ab stuff. Cheers!
I thought you guys were drinking coffee... Lol. Great content as always!
"Sleep @REP 8" LMAOO DEADDD
that moment when you get an epic intro and then the rest of it is just two dudes sitting in folding chairs talking
just kidding of course, love the info!
For the "What to do before not training for 10 days" -> If you can't have barbells for a while; Google Myo-reps!
Christ, Austin's legs are silly.
Yeah, I'm looking for some pants. Waist size? uuuh 32. Quad size is about 56 tho, got anything for that?
nice lululemon abc pants tho
That intro is... illuminated.
Informative, entertaining and funny
Dig the action movie intro!
Hi Doc, what`s your opinion about deadlifting in oly shoes like Adipower or PowerPerfect2?
YES, just...YES
Best Intro yet!
This bugged me: Jordan and the learning curve: Effort on the y-axis, learning on the x-axis. Steep curve: More effort per "unit of learning", aka harder.
wir3 I think most would use learning over time and a steep curve would have a small change in time (x) resulting in
a large change in learning (y).
You sir, are correct. It seems the term is most comonly used to describe the relationship between learning and experience, making steeper = faster.
What you described would logically be called an effort curve. Jordan is completely correct if you take the word "learning curve" literally. However a steep learning curve might still be present without an accompanying feeling of increased mastery if the subject you're learning is complex enough that you're only learning fractions of it.
This analogy requires too much mathematics to be worth exploring honestly, you can't even quantify learning like this.
Austin undoubtedly outsized Jordan in this video
I think listening to calculators too closely would in most cases nocebo yourself
I don' wanna come off as ungrateful and I appreciate the QAs, VLOGs, and live streams, but it's been a while since focused, long-form content; I'm sure finding time is difficult, but I'd really prefer all these people with sitting on their hills of knowledge to sit down and get into it instead of replying to tidbits
You may want to visit the resource section of the BBM website. I think the content you are looking for is presented via articles, the RUclips stuff is just supplemental.
www.barbellmedicine.com/resources/
i like these alot!
Awesome, as always. I wonder what got the laugh @51:57? :)
And there's my right ear at 15.28
And gone again at 15.44😡
Are you guys halting development on the BBM Novice program?
so now we know, why there are two weeks 4 on the bridge template :)
Audio is gone past the intro. And. The same on the sound cloud.
Nice intro!! What's deal with the sound only coming from one side😅?
Baraki *definitely* out angling Feigenbaum in this one..
Intro game so hard
Awesome stuff :D
Awesome intro
Why left speaker only?
Wait... does Austin also do live streams? Did I get that right from the last question?
I'll be mad if I missed out.
He has done a lot already
:( I've been missing out on so much goodness
Only on Instagram. Same for Leah.
36:45 #quartersquatgang
Don't mind me, I'm just doing my due diligence by feeding the algorithm with my comments and likes in order to not milk you for free stuff too much.
Life hurts, what do??
My right ear enjoyed the video I guess
YOU’RE MAKING A VEGAN PROTEIN!!!!!????? 🙌🏾
Just add 5 papers
hahaha minute 32:16
Dánque
Chair game is lacking
drinking whiskey?
I’m super disappointed you guys went to Seattle and got Starbucks...all these independent amazing coffee shops and you stop at Starbucks. Shame lol
We went to other coffee shops while in Seattle proper. While in Bellevue, Starbucks was within walking distance. :-)
69th like on the video.
fourth