@@77joshua so fun fact. I didn't lol> I met with multiple surgeons and my range of motion is semi ok? But it is because of hundreds of hours of physiotherapy and laser treatments. But it is indeed still partially dislocated. So they gave me mulitple options. 1. leave it alone as it is not painful at the moment and I can still use it about 70% fully. 2. Reattempt the original Surgery 3. Partial Fusion 4. Full Fusion Because it is still semi ok-ish, the doctors cannot guarantee if I will have have the same range of motion if I do a partial fusion. So for now, we do scans every 8 months to check on it and when/if the time comes - we will perform the partial fusion then
@@joeallen6340 Thats cool you have the option to keep an eye on it. My doc said he tells people to live with it until the pain becomes unbearable. Usually about 12-15 years post injury and THEN recommends the surgery. Which is what happened for me. I got the surgery 15 years post injury because just one month....it became realllllly painful all of a sudden. All the time. Sounds like you got a good routine. If the time comes, have no worries. Life is good. And you'll be back to life just the same as before.
absolutely! i am pain free and doing everything i ever did before. In all honesty, 13 months post surgery I forget that my wrist is fused until i'm in the gym but even then it's only reminding me when i'm doing chest workouts. You will adapt JUST fine
I have a weak painful wrist due to several past injuries that I didn't take the time to heal because I felt I was to busy at the time. Crooked bones have wore out some joints. Retired now, I live in a lot of pain and can't even open a car door or a beer with it. It's useless. My hand surgeon is running out of options and is suggesting this, so I'm researching. Thank you so much for this!
You'll lose some range of motion for sure but dang finally being without pain is an entire mood changer. I didn't realize how much it discouraged me from just doing activities. I think you'll be very happy with the results after your surgery
Thanks for the video regarding post surgical repair to your wrist. I'm getting surgery 6-6-23 and was very concerned about limitations in mobility and this has been most encouraging! Thank you!
Thanks for the video. I’m based in the uk so I’m in the process of finding out what options I have with the NHS ( this is the free service we get in the uk). If they don’t offer this then I will probably have to pay for private surgery else where. STT Arthritis is my diagnosis. I surf most days so very insightful to see what range of movement you have to see if it will effect my pop ups on the surfboard as well as HIIT and body weight workouts. All the best
Ah you'll adjust just fine! Your fingers will be able to extend well enough you can get a good stance on your hands or obviously place a fist on the board. There's been a couple moments where it was kind of discouraging but I'm all good and trust you'll be just fine as well. Won't even think about it after youve spent some weeks on your board. I think the benefits of living without pain will far outweigh the lack of mobility after the surgery and you'll be right back to surfing
@@77joshua happy days. Thank you for the reply. That’s good to hear. The steroid injection didn’t even do anything so I definitely think surgery is the only option now, just waiting to an appointment with the surgeon. Most of my research on RUclips seems to be American themed so need to find out what is ok offer to me here in the uk. Having an active 18mnt little girl can also be a challenge when I have to pick her up with my forearm haha. Thanks again
My partial wrist fusion destroyed my life. The pain hasn’t stopped for 5 years after 4 surgeries, some days I can’t use it at all. I’m glad it went well for you.
@@adamcunnew3741It’s been 6 years and the pain never stops. I’ve had 6 surgeons offer opinions, some have tried to fix it but none can figure out what’s wrong. I get by but I’ll never be able to do a lot of things again (golf, tennis. circuit training)
nope no reduction in grip strength. I feel like I have 100 percent grip strength returned. No problems picking up things or holding myself up for pullups or anything
@@johnkevinstewart How long has it been since your surgery? Sorry just seen your message. Im not a content creator and don't check this often. Did they pin the scaphoid or remove it and do the fusion?
@@77joshua it’s been 3 months since op but I can feel the proximal scaphoid segment moving even through there is a screw in it and I’m gutted because it won’t unite. Considering my options now because I’m in soo much discomfort. 4cf is very tempting after being in discomfort and soo much pain but I’m only 23 so it’s a big commitment . 4cf appears superior to prc because the lunate remains in with the radius slowing arthritis.
@@johnkevinstewart yea I didnt like that option either with the PRC. It's not natural curvature. I asked my surgeon about that and the rapid degeneration of cartilage due to the capitate and that sharp angle now sitting in the fossa. He told me that yes degeneration/arthritis happens and visible via x-ray but it does not present in pain to the patient and is very tolerable. BUUTTT i wasn't wanting to risk that. And ive only seen one or two videos of other people with a PRC maybe a year or two after their surgery. So how long is it good for? 3 or 5 years before the arthritis is obviously noticeable and back to pain? Not long enough for me haha. But yea if you decide for the 4cr I REALLY trust you'll enjoy not being in pain and adapt to everything without even thinking about it. You think about every movement now so...completely up to you but if you decide to do it. I really really really do believe you will be happy with the results
When did your doctor clear you for working out and applying force to fusion? Coming up on 6 weeks post OP, swelling and pain has dropped a lot in the past 2 weeks. He has had me in a removeable brace and okay'd light stretching although very tight and a bit sore when doing so. Going in for another follow-up in 4 more weeks and he thinks it should be fully fused then. Is that about the time you were giving the go ahead for the gym? Haven't read any other comments about golf and let me tell you I'm missing my Monday mornings on the course.
Thanks for the vid going to have my done in a couple months good to see you don’t have any pain. I broke my wrist in my 20 and now I am 58 and it been sore for over 3 years I was worried about the pain as I would be disappointed if i have the surgery and lose my movement and still be in pain. I had shoulder surgery a couple of years ago and I am very disappointed with the results, different surgeon for my hand one of the best in Australia. How much physical therapy did you have. Thanks Mark
Sorry for the results with your shoulder. But for your wrist I would imagine you'll have the same good results as I have had. No pain whatsoever. I have adapted to doing everything very easily. The first couple weeks was a little strange with mobility restriction but I adapted quickly and dont even think about it anymore. I didnt do much physical therapy to be honest. I would flex or move my hand around a bit on my own but didnt need any professional physical therapist. I believe you'll adapt just fine like I did. Good luck and i trust you'll be happy to be living without any pain in your wrist
Josh. Thanks for sharing your experience. Like you I have been searching for reviews. I would like to connect with you to learn more about your experience and recovery. How did you pick your surgeon? What techniques/hardware did he use? How is the wrist now?
Hey there. Apologies. Ive been without my laptop. I picked him just because he had about 10 years experience and when I spoke with him for the consult i could tell he was very knowledgeable especially about the other options I asked him about. He only fused and used screws ( I dont remember how many )....I'm aware there is a circular plate that some surgeons may use to join the 4 bones together but my surgeon simply used screws. My wrist is doing great. Ive adapted to everything just fine. I forget I even had a surgery.
Bonjour merci pour la vidéo je le fais opérer le 19/11/2024 et je voudrais savoir si tu peux écrire après l'opération car je suis gaucher et c'est mon scaphoïde du poignet gauche qui est mort la greffe n'a pas prise et maintenant je vais subir une opération four corner 😢 merci d'avance
Thanks for the video series on this repair. Glad to hear you’ve adapted so well. Was wondering if it’s possible to shoot or dribble a basketball given the range-of-motion limitations?
Hey there. Thank you and yep still able to dribble. I shot some hoops last month. I'm not a basketball player but we were shooting around and I didn't have any problems dribbling or shooting. I noticed the difference in shooting. It wasn't overly drastic but I figured it out and trust you will too no problem
Thanks for the video and information. I have surgery in a month. I have the same beginning as you. When can you shift gears in a car? How long were you in the hospital after the operation? I have to enter the hospital the day before the operation, 23/07/2024, the operation will be on 24/07/2024.
Hey man thanks for the video very helpful im happy youre doing well i was wondering if you think you could box cause im in the same place scaphoid non union and might do a 4CF already done surgery with screw and bone graft but didnt go well and i do boxing so thats why i ask...
Hey man you'll do just fine boxing. If anything your wrist is going to be even more stable. I will say the first couple months when I was doing dumbbell curls I could feel a slight sharp pain in my wrist from the torque but It's all good now and doesn't hurt. But oh yea I have full confidence you'll be good. I'd go boxing or do some mma with how my wrist is now
Thanks mate . Great insight .. I’m eights weeks post and had 1 rehab session suggesting to keep my fingers moving ( expensive advice ) iv now lost my job and trying to save money on rehab . Can you share any exercises that are helpful please to regain strength and mobility ? Cheers
hahahaha expensive advice for sure! I regained strength from farmers carries and pull ups and squeeze/forearm device from walmart. My surgeon told me I would get 90% strength back but I feel I have 100% grip strength back. It took a couple months but it returned. I will say there were some strange adjustments or the slightest pains that I felt when carrying weight. Maybe the tendons getting used to the anatomical change? But I have no pain at all now. I hope all is
A few years ago I fractured my scaphoid and i went to the dr and put it a cost for months and it healed. Now finding out about 6 years later my blood supply has been pinched in there and my scaphoid has developed necrosis. I do not want to remove my bone. I’m waiting to hear back to see if a bone graft is possible. I’m a welder and my job is physically demanding and I don’t want to lose mobility in my wrist.
I hear you. I'm curious if they will try the bone graft. I asked my surgeon about it but my scaphoid was dead for too long and I had necrosis in mine. So the fusion was the only option. I grew up a carpenter and am physically active and I have adapted to everything perfectly and I know you would be able to adapt and continue welding. I've done some welding with stick and wire fed (definitely not my career) but I can confidently say you will be able to continue your career and especially without pain. You CAN wait a few years until the arthritis sets in like me. It was about 15 years AFTER my scaphoid was broken and died that I finally got the surgery. Because the arthritis became so bad. I currently have about 60 degrees of motion in my wrist
@@77joshua this injury occurred in last 2018 and my dr never called me back to give an answer. Now I’m going to get a second opinion. I read online the possibility of a 3d printed copy to replace it but my dr never mentioned that as an option. Just curious how long is too long?
@@aaronwoodard4413 honestly, that second opinion will be where you can make your decision. Most likely theyll order an MRI to find out if the bone is dead. I asked about the 3D printed as well, my surgeon said they had very little success rates with it. But if you want to refrain from getting the surgery for a few more years, typically you can go 12-15 years before the arthritis REALLY sets in and you'll definitely want the surgery before the arthritis spreads to all the other joints in the hand bones. And mostly because thats about the time it gets extra painful. My pain was manageable until my 15th year post injury
@@77joshua it’s not dead yet but has a white spot in the middle lower end of the bone. Never got a call back from my dr. So I’m trying to get my stuff transferred and get a second opinion. Not looking forward to not bending my wrist anymore.
Thank you very much! Absolutely it is completely possible. I don't train martial arts but I have grappled with a few buddies who train BJJ and I had zero issues. You will be able to do everything you need to do.
Thank you for posting your video. I am having a similar operation shortly & were worried about range of motion, however you answered one of my questions without it having to be asked. I'm a bit of a pushups freak & have been worried about that. Can you still do pullups & chins?
Hey there. Oh yea. No problems with pull ups and chins ups. My grip strength was kind of weak for a short period after the surgery. But a couple months later I was back to the same grip strength as before. I did have to focus on doing some farmers carries to build it back up but the strength returns. My doctor told me I would get 90% grip strength back but I feel it's at 100%
So glad to hear this perspective. You said you were in the military, may I ask what branch and job? And did they mention anything about possibly forcing you to medically retire due to “fit for duty” restrictions before going through with the surgery?
Wow idk how I missed your comment. I'm in the Army and nope, no restrictions. Still active duty. The new ACFT allows me to do pushups on my fists and i Just continue on with my job. No need to medically retire
Hey brother. Haven't shot with a revolver but have shot glock and sig with no problems! There's the SLIGHTEST restricted movement with Radial Deviation (trying to flex thumb side of hand to forearm) but it's very minimal and never affected me when shooting pistols
@@77joshua thank you bro glad you did well I have to go through this next month and you Encourages me as well I don't care about recovery or anything The only thing im worried about is shoot and ride afterwards but now I'm ok after u runs the trigger no issues Thx again bro God bless be have the good courage 🙏
I rode my mountain bike a couple weeks ago! I didn't have any problems. I could tell a difference but I adapted quickly. I believe you'll notice it after your surgery and after getting the cast off but i've adapted to everything and trust you will too. I even rode dirt bikes a couple weeks ago in very hilly terrain and didn't even think about my wrist. That is about 2 months post surgery but you'll have no problems adapting. The first month or two will be odd to you but easily adapted to after those first couple months
Oh dang I haven't tried golf! I'm curious how you adapt. Maybe after you get your cast off and get back to golfing make a video so people can know how that activity is affected by a four corner fusion. There's hardly ANY videos or testimonies out on the internet and I'm sure you can help people know how it will affect the golfing sport. Or leave a comment. I'd imagine people like us with this surgery are looking through these comments. Are you still in a cast?
Oh I can see that for a full fusion. I guess to adapt to a full fusion and the tendons and ligaments to adapt to being stationary? Not too sure about a full fusion but also with the hardware that theyre going to install it might take the bones a bit longer to accept and grow around the screws and metal plates inserted. Usually a broken bone is 6 weeks to heal but with my a 4 corner fusion its 8-10 weeks. Probably just the pattern of hardware/metal installed for your body to heal around those pieces
Appreciate you doing this video. I play golf so wondering if that’s still possible after this surgery. What is your post op wrist strength? Are you able to improve grip strength through exercise?
I apologize idk how I didn't see your comment. I haven't played golf since the surgery but I know I'd be able to go out and play. However, if you're a seasoned golfer I personally don't know the difference you would experience in your swing except at the top of the swing. But I do know you'd be able to adapt and still play your game. That i know for sure. It'll be different, yes. But you got this. My surgeon told me I would keep 90% grip strength with this type of surgery verses the 60-70% grip strength with the proximal row carpectomy. That's why I went with the 4 corner fusion. However, I feel I have regained 100% of my grip strength. I regained full grip strength after a few months of just living and some farmers carries and a forearm exercise device from walmart
Mine was swollen for a couple weeks as well. For me, my pain went away after a few weeks. I don't remember the EXACT timeline but there would be times when I would pick something up and it would be bothersome. There was a few times after I got the cast off that it would kinda be sore from moving a bunch of stuff but ibuprofen took the pain away. I'm sure each person is different in their pain experience with this surgery. Tell your doc about it and if it's too bad, hopefully he refills your pain prescription
Uff I happy for you. I am going to have this surgery, I have searched through many means and the doctors tell me that it is the surgery that is best for me. I practiced jiu jitsu and training for this sport, such as gym, falls, fist bumps and different techniques that flex the wrist, in fact my injury came from a technique called "mata leon" in which I took my knee out of position scaphoid and tore the ligaments of the scaphoid and lunate bones. Do you think that after recovering from this surgery, the wrist can receive slight impacts from training and routine practice? ...
Absolutely. I can punch and put impact on my wrist. So you will be able to get right back to it. Wow, they have to fuse your wrist for the the ligaments torn? Sounds like it was painful
Thank you for the video. Can you explain the push ups a bit more. I am concerned that it will hamper my down dog pose in yoga. However right now I am in pain and don’t on my knuckles or with outstretched fingers and its not that great. Also do you have or did you ever have numbness in your fingers. Thank you in advance.😊
Hey there, well, my fingers have been able to stretch to where I can be in a pushup position. It seemed odd at first but the fingers just gained flexibility. I think youll be able to still do downward dog with about 2-3 weeks of working on it. I have no pain in the wrist at all! So I have no problem at all just having flexible fingers. Even tho the palm doesnt touch the floor. It's a slight moderation but you'll be able to accomplish downward dog. The greatest relief is NO pain at all
Can you send me links or describe the rehab you did? just had mine done and have nearly zero range of of motion up or down. Cast came off today after 6 weeks
Starting out I didn't do much accept just lived my daily life because it was kind of odd getting the cast off and having limited range of motion. After a month or so I started to do simple wrist stretches on the floor. I'm curious, did they put screws in your 4CF or did they put a plate in your wrist?? I apologize for the delayed response
Thanks for sharing this! Super helpful to hear about your experience. I’m having to go thru a mid-carpal fusion myself and am concern with range of motion post-op. Did you have to go thru a lot of physical therapy to get to where you are in this video?
Actually, I never used a physical therapist. I did my own stretches. Wasn't anything intense, just getting the tendons and ligaments back to stretching and mobile due to being in a cast for 8 weeks...got a little stiff. Don't get me wrong, the fusion is obviously going to limit your range of motion. But when the cast first comes off, your tendons and ligaments are gonna be a little stubborn and you'll probably feel it. My grip strength was only about 70% of what it used to be for about 4 weeks but I gained full grip strength at about week 5 or 6. For me....I just did what made sense to me that any physical therapist would have done anyways. Some stretches to get the tendons and ligaments back to normal...no crazy unique technique...just some basic flex, extend, medial and lateral movements. And working out my regular workout routine got my strength back. After some time of your basic daily routine you will get your strength back as well. Good luck with your recovery!!
Thanks for this post! It helps somewhat to calm my nerves, as I will be having a wrist scaphoid excision and four corner fusion....question: how long was your hand swollen right after surgery and then how long before the cast was put on? and do you think i could take a flight 16 days post surgery? and finally how long was cast on, then PT? total time to heal?
It was swollen for a couple weeks. I woke up out of surgery with a cast on. It'll be the same for you. I had my cast on for 8 weeks. The doc said it did have the potential for 10 weeks, dependent on healing progress but I just had mine for 8 weeks. 16 days after the surgery? Oh yea absolutely. That'll be plenty of time to fly, youre good. If it was abdominal surgery, I think its 10-14 days that you wouldnt want to fly but for your wrist surgery, you're fine to fly after 16 days. I did my own PT for a couple months just randomly and on my own time. As soon as my cast came off I was back to working out and doing everything I ever did. I was cautious not to be too strenuous on it but I'd say maybe2-3 months to have full strength back in my wrist.
@@77joshua thanks so much for this response! i appreciate it alot! and outside of the range of motion being gone, I do want to return to everything movement wise....besides simple necessary movement like tying your shoes, turning a key, etc....I need to be able to continue my photography and running a childcare...and what i most want to return to is tennis and workouts...sad i won't be able to do a plank or pushup, but it sounds like modifications can do those things as well....again thanks!
Hi Josh, I had a similar wrist surgery 7 weeks ago. It involved taking out to wrist bones and putting in 2 screws. How long did it take you to get over the surgical pain? Again, it’s only been 7 weeks for me and I am now in a removable cast. There is no bone-on-bone pain. But it smarts when I move my wrist because of the surgery. At the last x-ray they said the bone needed to finish hardening around the screws. They said it takes about 3 months for that to happen, but that it’s already healing nicely.
Hi there, my pain resided quickly after the surgery. I wouldn't say I had pain after the cast came off other than just some discomfort of getting flexibility (at least as much as I could with the wrist fused). There was a couple times when working out that I felt a small pinch but that quickly faded within a couple weeks. I'm living pain free and don't have any pain to speak of. Hope your recovery goes well!
0:10 Hey man thanks for your video. Im currently sitting in the ward post op just had a 4cf im worrjed about recovering time as im a bricklayer. Also i have allot of pain now did use cold press?
Oh dang, that was 4 days ago. How are you feeling now? I didn't use a cold compress cuz I was obviously in a cast so i'm not sure how to get a cold contact there. But I was prescribed 2 weeks of pain pills. I took those daily until I ran out. I didn't experience any pain after those 2 weeks were up. So I hope they give you a prescription during those first few weeks. But a bricklayer? oh no problem. You'll have no problems at all. I updated two floors in two separate houses in July (I grew up in construction). Actually, as soon as I got my cast off i was back to working out and doing everything per usual. You'll be just fine I promise!
2:03 Wow I've watched all your videos you are basically telling my story I broke my scaphoid 17 years ago in goal but didn't get it checked out, left it until mild arthritis but I can't keep leav 0:10 ing it so I'm currently 6 days post op, I ment ice on your fingers as mine are bruised and sore but they have prescribed me pain meds but constipated with them lol So you think I'll be back to work in 3 months with physio? I had screws not the circle plate what did you have? 0:10
@@adamcunnew3741 oh dang. yea very similar story man. Yea now that I think about it I did have swelling in my fingers for a week i think? I never iced them. It just eventually went down. It sounds like youve had more swelling and bruising than I did. I remember they gave me something else for the constipation too haha.. Oh yea absolutely. To be honest, I didn't even go to physical therapy. I had to fly out of country and had my cast cut off that morning, then was on the plane the next morning. Immediately went back to working out. The first couple weeks it seemed like there was a ever so slightest pinching feeling but went away very soon. The range of motion of my wrist has not changed hardly AT ALL since i got the cast off. Maybe 5degrees improvement. But the limitation of extending the hand up due to the fusion just is what it is. The unfortunate part of a scaphoid non-union. But yes absolutely you'll be back to work in no time. With my experience of the surgery....if I was still working construction....I still would have been back to work immediately after the cast came off. I actually moved states on the 6th week of having the cast on. I literally lifted and moved everything with the cast on without any issues or complications haha.
Oh also....just so you're aware...your grip strength will be diminished for about 4 weeks. That's how it was for me. Maybe about 70% for those first 4 weeks but back to full grip strength around week 5 or 6. Getting back to work might be a little strange getting used to at first but you'll be fully capable and won't even think about your wrist after about month 2 or 3 of your cast being off. I know how important your hands are in a trade skill like brick laying but I have full confidence you're going to be just fine when the cast comes off and you'll adapt very, very quickly
Thank you so much for positive feedback man. He said to me as wel that it may not last the rest of my life and potentially have to have a full fusion yeara down the line. Sounds like you had a great recovery. My range of motion wasn't great before surgery so if I get that back then great
Heyy man ! I have the same problem, fractured my scaphoid 10 years ago, had a bone graft 5 years ago but non union. Now I have some discomfort and moderate pain for pushing exercises but fine with pulling. Some mild pain when at rest but nothing unbearable for now. I wonder if I should get the surgery to fuse it or wait until it becomes really disabling or unbearable for everyday tasks. Thanks for sharing your experience!
I hear ya man. I fractured mine about 15 years ago. The surgeon told me the window for that injury to become unbearable for people is 12-15 years. There's a point where it just became a dull aching pain at ALL times and it even woke me up in the middle of the night because it was so bad. Definitely was not working out with it hurting that bad. That happens because arthritis finally sets in. BUT he told me the more time that people put it off, the more likely arthritis will spread from the scaphoid over to the other joints/bones in the wrist. With the moderate pain you have with pushing exercises it sounds like youre in that window of time that would be good to get the surgery before arthritis spreads to the other areas in the wrist. Maybe get it checked out, a good ortho surgeon will be able to see arthritis in the x-ray and be able to tell you if you can put it off for a couple more years or now is a good time. You're pretty close to wanting to get the surgery brother.
Hey man 32 year old here. I had a fracture in my distal radius. Did you look into osteochondrial allografts? Im trying to really push my doctors to do resurfacing of my joint. I also heard that even partial fusion leads to full fusion eventually
I looked into it a little but wasn't quite applicable to a scaphoid non-union that I had. But heck if you're willing to give it a shot you might be that ground breaking patient. I'm curious...Are you having degeneration there at the radius joint? How long ago was your fracture?
@@77joshuayea i have mild/moderate osteoarthritis. The idea is that resurfacing will stop oa from getting worse. There is also a doctor in maryland that does vascularized bone grafts but its lengthy
oh absolutely. you'll be just fine. Heck your fused wrist might make a harder strike. Im sure the doctor will tell you the same thing but make sure you ease into it for a few months so your tendons and ligaments get used to that impact after being in a cast for 8 or 10 weeks.
Any special exercises did u do ?I had it done 3 months ago and still have no strength in my holding hand thanks for the reply and also still experiencing alittle pain
hmmm. How old are you? when I first got the cast off i was probably about 70% of my original grip strength. Maybe 2-3 months later I had full strength again if I remember correctly. They did a four corner fusion or a full wrist fusion for you? @@tomh1112
I’m 55 and had the 4 corner fusion done.I had 6 visits of physical therapy.My biggest fear is having to go ta a crossbow.The pain is around my pinky finger which is wierd did u have any pain in that area?
Mmm. I guess i could say i had "some" discomfort. Nothing that caused pain that stopped me from shooting my bow. I could tell my tendons and ligaments were basically getting used to being able to move again after being in the cast for 8 weeks. I'm not trying to say you're old Tom! But im crossing my fingers hoping the recovery is just a tad bit slower than it was for me. I'm about half your age so I hope you get to that place again you can shoot and gain your strength back again@@tomh1112
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Very good news , glad that you happy with the outcome
Just got mine 2 days ago, going through the surgery pain now. Thank you for sharing it helped with my decision .
Absolutely. How's the recovery going?
Thanks for posting this. I am deciding whether to get the fusion done and this is exactly what I was wanting to know.
Thank you for your feedback about this operation
This honestly helped relieve some of my anxiety. I am faced with the same scenario.
Just checking in. Did you get the procedure done?
@@77joshua so fun fact. I didn't lol>
I met with multiple surgeons and my range of motion is semi ok? But it is because of hundreds of hours of physiotherapy and laser treatments. But it is indeed still partially dislocated.
So they gave me mulitple options.
1. leave it alone as it is not painful at the moment and I can still use it about 70% fully.
2. Reattempt the original Surgery
3. Partial Fusion
4. Full Fusion
Because it is still semi ok-ish, the doctors cannot guarantee if I will have have the same range of motion if I do a partial fusion. So for now, we do scans every 8 months to check on it and when/if the time comes - we will perform the partial fusion then
@@joeallen6340 Thats cool you have the option to keep an eye on it. My doc said he tells people to live with it until the pain becomes unbearable. Usually about 12-15 years post injury and THEN recommends the surgery. Which is what happened for me. I got the surgery 15 years post injury because just one month....it became realllllly painful all of a sudden. All the time. Sounds like you got a good routine. If the time comes, have no worries. Life is good. And you'll be back to life just the same as before.
Thank you so much for this video. I have been so worried about having this surgery and this really helped alleviate my concerns. Thank you!
absolutely! i am pain free and doing everything i ever did before. In all honesty, 13 months post surgery I forget that my wrist is fused until i'm in the gym but even then it's only reminding me when i'm doing chest workouts. You will adapt JUST fine
Thanks. I am getting this surgery in 2 weeks
I have a weak painful wrist due to several past injuries that I didn't take the time to heal because I felt I was to busy at the time. Crooked bones have wore out some joints. Retired now, I live in a lot of pain and can't even open a car door or a beer with it. It's useless. My hand surgeon is running out of options and is suggesting this, so I'm researching. Thank you so much for this!
You'll lose some range of motion for sure but dang finally being without pain is an entire mood changer. I didn't realize how much it discouraged me from just doing activities. I think you'll be very happy with the results after your surgery
Thanks for the video regarding post surgical repair to your wrist. I'm getting surgery 6-6-23 and was very concerned about limitations in mobility and this has been most encouraging! Thank you!
Thanks for the video. I’m based in the uk so I’m in the process of finding out what options I have with the NHS ( this is the free service we get in the uk). If they don’t offer this then I will probably have to pay for private surgery else where. STT Arthritis is my diagnosis.
I surf most days so very insightful to see what range of movement you have to see if it will effect my pop ups on the surfboard as well as HIIT and body weight workouts.
All the best
Ah you'll adjust just fine! Your fingers will be able to extend well enough you can get a good stance on your hands or obviously place a fist on the board. There's been a couple moments where it was kind of discouraging but I'm all good and trust you'll be just fine as well. Won't even think about it after youve spent some weeks on your board. I think the benefits of living without pain will far outweigh the lack of mobility after the surgery and you'll be right back to surfing
@@77joshua happy days. Thank you for the reply.
That’s good to hear.
The steroid injection didn’t even do anything so I definitely think surgery is the only option now, just waiting to an appointment with the surgeon. Most of my research on RUclips seems to be American themed so need to find out what is ok offer to me here in the uk. Having an active 18mnt little girl can also be a challenge when I have to pick her up with my forearm haha.
Thanks again
SLAC IS THE PITTS....glad you doing well
My partial wrist fusion destroyed my life. The pain hasn’t stopped for 5 years after 4 surgeries, some days I can’t use it at all. I’m glad it went well for you.
Did you end up with a full fusion?
@@leisurely6711 No I got a partial fusion. Its horrible.
Why is it horrible?
@@adamcunnew3741It’s been 6 years and the pain never stops. I’ve had 6 surgeons offer opinions, some have tried to fix it but none can figure out what’s wrong. I get by but I’ll never be able to do a lot of things again (golf, tennis. circuit training)
Thank you very much very helpfull
Grip? I am having it soon. I just want the pain gone. I am glad to know your arm adjusts. How lokk till you trust it again
My grip is full strength now. I went to working out 4 days after the cast came off and had full strength back about 2 months after the cast was off
Very useful video thank you. What about grip strength? Have you noticed any bad reduction
nope no reduction in grip strength. I feel like I have 100 percent grip strength returned. No problems picking up things or holding myself up for pullups or anything
@@77joshua that awesome mate really glad to hear that. I've just had an operation to fix my scaphoid nonunion but it doesn't feel like it worked.
@@johnkevinstewart How long has it been since your surgery? Sorry just seen your message. Im not a content creator and don't check this often. Did they pin the scaphoid or remove it and do the fusion?
@@77joshua it’s been 3 months since op but I can feel the proximal scaphoid segment moving even through there is a screw in it and I’m gutted because it won’t unite. Considering my options now because I’m in soo much discomfort. 4cf is very tempting after being in discomfort and soo much pain but I’m only 23 so it’s a big commitment . 4cf appears superior to prc because the lunate remains in with the radius slowing arthritis.
@@johnkevinstewart yea I didnt like that option either with the PRC. It's not natural curvature. I asked my surgeon about that and the rapid degeneration of cartilage due to the capitate and that sharp angle now sitting in the fossa. He told me that yes degeneration/arthritis happens and visible via x-ray but it does not present in pain to the patient and is very tolerable. BUUTTT i wasn't wanting to risk that. And ive only seen one or two videos of other people with a PRC maybe a year or two after their surgery. So how long is it good for? 3 or 5 years before the arthritis is obviously noticeable and back to pain? Not long enough for me haha. But yea if you decide for the 4cr I REALLY trust you'll enjoy not being in pain and adapt to everything without even thinking about it. You think about every movement now so...completely up to you but if you decide to do it. I really really really do believe you will be happy with the results
This video helps but man the loss of motion is scary as hell 😢 Currently have seperation in the wrist. doctor floated this as an option.
When did your doctor clear you for working out and applying force to fusion? Coming up on 6 weeks post OP, swelling and pain has dropped a lot in the past 2 weeks. He has had me in a removeable brace and okay'd light stretching although very tight and a bit sore when doing so. Going in for another follow-up in 4 more weeks and he thinks it should be fully fused then. Is that about the time you were giving the go ahead for the gym? Haven't read any other comments about golf and let me tell you I'm missing my Monday mornings on the course.
Thanks for the vid going to have my done in a couple months good to see you don’t have any pain. I broke my wrist in my 20 and now I am 58 and it been sore for over 3 years I was worried about the pain as I would be disappointed if i have the surgery and lose my movement and still be in pain. I had shoulder surgery a couple of years ago and I am very disappointed with the results, different surgeon for my hand one of the best in Australia. How much physical therapy did you have. Thanks Mark
Sorry for the results with your shoulder. But for your wrist I would imagine you'll have the same good results as I have had. No pain whatsoever. I have adapted to doing everything very easily. The first couple weeks was a little strange with mobility restriction but I adapted quickly and dont even think about it anymore. I didnt do much physical therapy to be honest. I would flex or move my hand around a bit on my own but didnt need any professional physical therapist. I believe you'll adapt just fine like I did. Good luck and i trust you'll be happy to be living without any pain in your wrist
Thanks for the reply. Cheers mark
Josh. Thanks for sharing your experience. Like you I have been searching for reviews. I would like to connect with you to learn more about your experience and recovery. How did you pick your surgeon? What techniques/hardware did he use? How is the wrist now?
Hey there. Apologies. Ive been without my laptop. I picked him just because he had about 10 years experience and when I spoke with him for the consult i could tell he was very knowledgeable especially about the other options I asked him about. He only fused and used screws ( I dont remember how many )....I'm aware there is a circular plate that some surgeons may use to join the 4 bones together but my surgeon simply used screws. My wrist is doing great. Ive adapted to everything just fine. I forget I even had a surgery.
Bonjour merci pour la vidéo je le fais opérer le 19/11/2024 et je voudrais savoir si tu peux écrire après l'opération car je suis gaucher et c'est mon scaphoïde du poignet gauche qui est mort la greffe n'a pas prise et maintenant je vais subir une opération four corner 😢 merci d'avance
Thanks for the video series on this repair. Glad to hear you’ve adapted so well. Was wondering if it’s possible to shoot or dribble a basketball given the range-of-motion limitations?
Hey there. Thank you and yep still able to dribble. I shot some hoops last month. I'm not a basketball player but we were shooting around and I didn't have any problems dribbling or shooting. I noticed the difference in shooting. It wasn't overly drastic but I figured it out and trust you will too no problem
@@77joshua Ok, nice. Thanks for your response and best of luck going forward.
Thanks for the video and information. I have surgery in a month. I have the same beginning as you. When can you shift gears in a car? How long were you in the hospital after the operation?
I have to enter the hospital the day before the operation, 23/07/2024, the operation will be on 24/07/2024.
I apologize for the late reply! Youve had the surgery by now. How did it go?
Hey man thanks for the video very helpful im happy youre doing well i was wondering if you think you could box cause im in the same place scaphoid non union and might do a 4CF already done surgery with screw and bone graft but didnt go well and i do boxing so thats why i ask...
Look into vascularized bone graft
Thats the other option did it work for you or someone you know?
Hey man you'll do just fine boxing. If anything your wrist is going to be even more stable. I will say the first couple months when I was doing dumbbell curls I could feel a slight sharp pain in my wrist from the torque but It's all good now and doesn't hurt. But oh yea I have full confidence you'll be good. I'd go boxing or do some mma with how my wrist is now
Thanks mate . Great insight .. I’m eights weeks post and had 1 rehab session suggesting to keep my fingers moving ( expensive advice ) iv now lost my job and trying to save money on rehab . Can you share any exercises that are helpful please to regain strength and mobility ? Cheers
hahahaha expensive advice for sure! I regained strength from farmers carries and pull ups and squeeze/forearm device from walmart. My surgeon told me I would get 90% strength back but I feel I have 100% grip strength back. It took a couple months but it returned. I will say there were some strange adjustments or the slightest pains that I felt when carrying weight. Maybe the tendons getting used to the anatomical change? But I have no pain at all now. I hope all is
A few years ago I fractured my scaphoid and i went to the dr and put it a cost for months and it healed. Now finding out about 6 years later my blood supply has been pinched in there and my scaphoid has developed necrosis. I do not want to remove my bone. I’m waiting to hear back to see if a bone graft is possible. I’m a welder and my job is physically demanding and I don’t want to lose mobility in my wrist.
I hear you. I'm curious if they will try the bone graft. I asked my surgeon about it but my scaphoid was dead for too long and I had necrosis in mine. So the fusion was the only option. I grew up a carpenter and am physically active and I have adapted to everything perfectly and I know you would be able to adapt and continue welding. I've done some welding with stick and wire fed (definitely not my career) but I can confidently say you will be able to continue your career and especially without pain. You CAN wait a few years until the arthritis sets in like me. It was about 15 years AFTER my scaphoid was broken and died that I finally got the surgery. Because the arthritis became so bad. I currently have about 60 degrees of motion in my wrist
@@77joshua this injury occurred in last 2018 and my dr never called me back to give an answer. Now I’m going to get a second opinion. I read online the possibility of a 3d printed copy to replace it but my dr never mentioned that as an option. Just curious how long is too long?
@@aaronwoodard4413 honestly, that second opinion will be where you can make your decision. Most likely theyll order an MRI to find out if the bone is dead. I asked about the 3D printed as well, my surgeon said they had very little success rates with it. But if you want to refrain from getting the surgery for a few more years, typically you can go 12-15 years before the arthritis REALLY sets in and you'll definitely want the surgery before the arthritis spreads to all the other joints in the hand bones. And mostly because thats about the time it gets extra painful. My pain was manageable until my 15th year post injury
@@77joshua it’s not dead yet but has a white spot in the middle lower end of the bone. Never got a call back from my dr. So I’m trying to get my stuff transferred and get a second opinion. Not looking forward to not bending my wrist anymore.
Anyone comment on how long to play golf after this surgery ?
Is it possible to train martial arts after surgery? Thanks for Your video. The one and the best about 4CF on yt.
Thank you very much! Absolutely it is completely possible. I don't train martial arts but I have grappled with a few buddies who train BJJ and I had zero issues. You will be able to do everything you need to do.
Thank you for posting your video. I am having a similar operation shortly & were worried about range of motion, however you answered one of my questions without it having to be asked. I'm a bit of a pushups freak & have been worried about that. Can you still do pullups & chins?
Hey there. Oh yea. No problems with pull ups and chins ups. My grip strength was kind of weak for a short period after the surgery. But a couple months later I was back to the same grip strength as before. I did have to focus on doing some farmers carries to build it back up but the strength returns. My doctor told me I would get 90% grip strength back but I feel it's at 100%
Is it possible to connect with you on phone
So glad to hear this perspective. You said you were in the military, may I ask what branch and job? And did they mention anything about possibly forcing you to medically retire due to “fit for duty” restrictions before going through with the surgery?
Wow idk how I missed your comment. I'm in the Army and nope, no restrictions. Still active duty. The new ACFT allows me to do pushups on my fists and i Just continue on with my job. No need to medically retire
Hi man thx for the sharing
What about revolver shooting or Rapid shooting with single action revolver?
Thx again
Hey brother. Haven't shot with a revolver but have shot glock and sig with no problems! There's the SLIGHTEST restricted movement with Radial Deviation (trying to flex thumb side of hand to forearm) but it's very minimal and never affected me when shooting pistols
@@77joshua thank you bro glad you did well
I have to go through this next month and you Encourages me as well
I don't care about recovery or anything
The only thing im worried about is shoot and ride afterwards but now I'm ok after u runs the trigger no issues
Thx again bro
God bless be have the good courage 🙏
thx for the video. whats about mountain bike driving ? is it possible ? thx .......
I rode my mountain bike a couple weeks ago! I didn't have any problems. I could tell a difference but I adapted quickly. I believe you'll notice it after your surgery and after getting the cast off but i've adapted to everything and trust you will too. I even rode dirt bikes a couple weeks ago in very hilly terrain and didn't even think about my wrist. That is about 2 months post surgery but you'll have no problems adapting. The first month or two will be odd to you but easily adapted to after those first couple months
Hi man. Glad to hear you’ve adapted well. I had my fusion surgery done 6 weeks back. What about golf ?
Oh dang I haven't tried golf! I'm curious how you adapt. Maybe after you get your cast off and get back to golfing make a video so people can know how that activity is affected by a four corner fusion. There's hardly ANY videos or testimonies out on the internet and I'm sure you can help people know how it will affect the golfing sport. Or leave a comment. I'd imagine people like us with this surgery are looking through these comments. Are you still in a cast?
I’m looking into a full fusion now. But for some reason my surgeon told me I’d be on down time for a year. Wonder why so long.
Oh I can see that for a full fusion. I guess to adapt to a full fusion and the tendons and ligaments to adapt to being stationary? Not too sure about a full fusion but also with the hardware that theyre going to install it might take the bones a bit longer to accept and grow around the screws and metal plates inserted. Usually a broken bone is 6 weeks to heal but with my a 4 corner fusion its 8-10 weeks. Probably just the pattern of hardware/metal installed for your body to heal around those pieces
Appreciate you doing this video. I play golf so wondering if that’s still possible after this surgery. What is your post op wrist strength? Are you able to improve grip strength through exercise?
I apologize idk how I didn't see your comment. I haven't played golf since the surgery but I know I'd be able to go out and play. However, if you're a seasoned golfer I personally don't know the difference you would experience in your swing except at the top of the swing. But I do know you'd be able to adapt and still play your game. That i know for sure. It'll be different, yes. But you got this. My surgeon told me I would keep 90% grip strength with this type of surgery verses the 60-70% grip strength with the proximal row carpectomy. That's why I went with the 4 corner fusion. However, I feel I have regained 100% of my grip strength. I regained full grip strength after a few months of just living and some farmers carries and a forearm exercise device from walmart
I’m 4 weeks post surgery and pain is still bad and a little bit swollen. How long post surgery till the pain was gone ?
Mine was swollen for a couple weeks as well. For me, my pain went away after a few weeks. I don't remember the EXACT timeline but there would be times when I would pick something up and it would be bothersome. There was a few times after I got the cast off that it would kinda be sore from moving a bunch of stuff but ibuprofen took the pain away. I'm sure each person is different in their pain experience with this surgery. Tell your doc about it and if it's too bad, hopefully he refills your pain prescription
Uff I happy for you. I am going to have this surgery, I have searched through many means and the doctors tell me that it is the surgery that is best for me. I practiced jiu jitsu and training for this sport, such as gym, falls, fist bumps and different techniques that flex the wrist, in fact my injury came from a technique called "mata leon" in which I took my knee out of position scaphoid and tore the ligaments of the scaphoid and lunate bones. Do you think that after recovering from this surgery, the wrist can receive slight impacts from training and routine practice? ...
Absolutely. I can punch and put impact on my wrist. So you will be able to get right back to it. Wow, they have to fuse your wrist for the the ligaments torn? Sounds like it was painful
Thank you for the video. Can you explain the push ups a bit more. I am concerned that it will hamper my down dog pose in yoga. However right now I am in pain and don’t on my knuckles or with outstretched fingers and its not that great. Also do you have or did you ever have numbness in your fingers. Thank you in advance.😊
Hey there, well, my fingers have been able to stretch to where I can be in a pushup position. It seemed odd at first but the fingers just gained flexibility. I think youll be able to still do downward dog with about 2-3 weeks of working on it. I have no pain in the wrist at all! So I have no problem at all just having flexible fingers. Even tho the palm doesnt touch the floor. It's a slight moderation but you'll be able to accomplish downward dog. The greatest relief is NO pain at all
Can you send me links or describe the rehab you did? just had mine done and have nearly zero range of of motion up or down. Cast came off today after 6 weeks
Starting out I didn't do much accept just lived my daily life because it was kind of odd getting the cast off and having limited range of motion. After a month or so I started to do simple wrist stretches on the floor. I'm curious, did they put screws in your 4CF or did they put a plate in your wrist?? I apologize for the delayed response
Thanks for sharing this! Super helpful to hear about your experience. I’m having to go thru a mid-carpal fusion myself and am concern with range of motion post-op. Did you have to go thru a lot of physical therapy to get to where you are in this video?
Actually, I never used a physical therapist. I did my own stretches. Wasn't anything intense, just getting the tendons and ligaments back to stretching and mobile due to being in a cast for 8 weeks...got a little stiff. Don't get me wrong, the fusion is obviously going to limit your range of motion. But when the cast first comes off, your tendons and ligaments are gonna be a little stubborn and you'll probably feel it.
My grip strength was only about 70% of what it used to be for about 4 weeks but I gained full grip strength at about week 5 or 6. For me....I just did what made sense to me that any physical therapist would have done anyways. Some stretches to get the tendons and ligaments back to normal...no crazy unique technique...just some basic flex, extend, medial and lateral movements. And working out my regular workout routine got my strength back. After some time of your basic daily routine you will get your strength back as well. Good luck with your recovery!!
Thanks for this post! It helps somewhat to calm my nerves, as I will be having a wrist scaphoid excision and four corner fusion....question: how long was your hand swollen right after surgery and then how long before the cast was put on? and do you think i could take a flight 16 days post surgery? and finally how long was cast on, then PT? total time to heal?
It was swollen for a couple weeks. I woke up out of surgery with a cast on. It'll be the same for you. I had my cast on for 8 weeks. The doc said it did have the potential for 10 weeks, dependent on healing progress but I just had mine for 8 weeks. 16 days after the surgery? Oh yea absolutely. That'll be plenty of time to fly, youre good. If it was abdominal surgery, I think its 10-14 days that you wouldnt want to fly but for your wrist surgery, you're fine to fly after 16 days. I did my own PT for a couple months just randomly and on my own time. As soon as my cast came off I was back to working out and doing everything I ever did. I was cautious not to be too strenuous on it but I'd say maybe2-3 months to have full strength back in my wrist.
@@77joshua thanks so much for this response! i appreciate it alot! and outside of the range of motion being gone, I do want to return to everything movement wise....besides simple necessary movement like tying your shoes, turning a key, etc....I need to be able to continue my photography and running a childcare...and what i most want to return to is tennis and workouts...sad i won't be able to do a plank or pushup, but it sounds like modifications can do those things as well....again thanks!
Hi Josh, I had a similar wrist surgery 7 weeks ago. It involved taking out to wrist bones and putting in 2 screws. How long did it take you to get over the surgical pain? Again, it’s only been 7 weeks for me and I am now in a removable cast. There is no bone-on-bone pain. But it smarts when I move my wrist because of the surgery. At the last x-ray they said the bone needed to finish hardening around the screws. They said it takes about 3 months for that to happen, but that it’s already healing nicely.
Hi there, my pain resided quickly after the surgery. I wouldn't say I had pain after the cast came off other than just some discomfort of getting flexibility (at least as much as I could with the wrist fused). There was a couple times when working out that I felt a small pinch but that quickly faded within a couple weeks. I'm living pain free and don't have any pain to speak of. Hope your recovery goes well!
0:10 Hey man thanks for your video. Im currently sitting in the ward post op just had a 4cf im worrjed about recovering time as im a bricklayer. Also i have allot of pain now did use cold press?
Oh dang, that was 4 days ago. How are you feeling now? I didn't use a cold compress cuz I was obviously in a cast so i'm not sure how to get a cold contact there. But I was prescribed 2 weeks of pain pills. I took those daily until I ran out. I didn't experience any pain after those 2 weeks were up. So I hope they give you a prescription during those first few weeks. But a bricklayer? oh no problem. You'll have no problems at all. I updated two floors in two separate houses in July (I grew up in construction). Actually, as soon as I got my cast off i was back to working out and doing everything per usual. You'll be just fine I promise!
2:03 Wow I've watched all your videos you are basically telling my story I broke my scaphoid 17 years ago in goal but didn't get it checked out, left it until mild arthritis but I can't keep leav 0:10 ing it so I'm currently 6 days post op, I ment ice on your fingers as mine are bruised and sore but they have prescribed me pain meds but constipated with them lol So you think I'll be back to work in 3 months with physio? I had screws not the circle plate what did you have? 0:10
@@adamcunnew3741 oh dang. yea very similar story man. Yea now that I think about it I did have swelling in my fingers for a week i think? I never iced them. It just eventually went down. It sounds like youve had more swelling and bruising than I did. I remember they gave me something else for the constipation too haha.. Oh yea absolutely. To be honest, I didn't even go to physical therapy. I had to fly out of country and had my cast cut off that morning, then was on the plane the next morning. Immediately went back to working out. The first couple weeks it seemed like there was a ever so slightest pinching feeling but went away very soon. The range of motion of my wrist has not changed hardly AT ALL since i got the cast off. Maybe 5degrees improvement. But the limitation of extending the hand up due to the fusion just is what it is. The unfortunate part of a scaphoid non-union. But yes absolutely you'll be back to work in no time. With my experience of the surgery....if I was still working construction....I still would have been back to work immediately after the cast came off. I actually moved states on the 6th week of having the cast on. I literally lifted and moved everything with the cast on without any issues or complications haha.
Oh also....just so you're aware...your grip strength will be diminished for about 4 weeks. That's how it was for me. Maybe about 70% for those first 4 weeks but back to full grip strength around week 5 or 6. Getting back to work might be a little strange getting used to at first but you'll be fully capable and won't even think about your wrist after about month 2 or 3 of your cast being off. I know how important your hands are in a trade skill like brick laying but I have full confidence you're going to be just fine when the cast comes off and you'll adapt very, very quickly
Thank you so much for positive feedback man. He said to me as wel that it may not last the rest of my life and potentially have to have a full fusion yeara down the line. Sounds like you had a great recovery. My range of motion wasn't great before surgery so if I get that back then great
Has anyone experienced carpal tunnel syndrome after this surgery or just general tingling in the fingers?
i just had it done two days ago. my thumb and first two fingers have numbness and tingling.
@@Trashcanman135I'm one year post op and scheduled for carpal tunnel surgery this week
@@adamcunnew3741 besides the carpal tunnel issues how did the rest heal
Heyy man ! I have the same problem, fractured my scaphoid 10 years ago, had a bone graft 5 years ago but non union. Now I have some discomfort and moderate pain for pushing exercises but fine with pulling. Some mild pain when at rest but nothing unbearable for now. I wonder if I should get the surgery to fuse it or wait until it becomes really disabling or unbearable for everyday tasks. Thanks for sharing your experience!
I hear ya man. I fractured mine about 15 years ago. The surgeon told me the window for that injury to become unbearable for people is 12-15 years. There's a point where it just became a dull aching pain at ALL times and it even woke me up in the middle of the night because it was so bad. Definitely was not working out with it hurting that bad. That happens because arthritis finally sets in. BUT he told me the more time that people put it off, the more likely arthritis will spread from the scaphoid over to the other joints/bones in the wrist. With the moderate pain you have with pushing exercises it sounds like youre in that window of time that would be good to get the surgery before arthritis spreads to the other areas in the wrist. Maybe get it checked out, a good ortho surgeon will be able to see arthritis in the x-ray and be able to tell you if you can put it off for a couple more years or now is a good time. You're pretty close to wanting to get the surgery brother.
@@77joshuathanks for the reply! I will talk to the doctor about it!
Hey man 32 year old here. I had a fracture in my distal radius. Did you look into osteochondrial allografts? Im trying to really push my doctors to do resurfacing of my joint. I also heard that even partial fusion leads to full fusion eventually
I looked into it a little but wasn't quite applicable to a scaphoid non-union that I had. But heck if you're willing to give it a shot you might be that ground breaking patient. I'm curious...Are you having degeneration there at the radius joint? How long ago was your fracture?
@@77joshuayea i have mild/moderate osteoarthritis. The idea is that resurfacing will stop oa from getting worse. There is also a doctor in maryland that does vascularized bone grafts but its lengthy
@@77joshuamy fracture was June 2022 from Atv accident. Fml
Hey I’m about to have this surgery jn both of my wrists. Do you think I’ll be able to box again?
oh absolutely. you'll be just fine. Heck your fused wrist might make a harder strike. Im sure the doctor will tell you the same thing but make sure you ease into it for a few months so your tendons and ligaments get used to that impact after being in a cast for 8 or 10 weeks.
How long did it take to shoot a bow?
immediately after the cast came off
Any special exercises did u do ?I had it done 3 months ago and still have no strength in my holding hand thanks for the reply and also still experiencing alittle pain
hmmm. How old are you? when I first got the cast off i was probably about 70% of my original grip strength. Maybe 2-3 months later I had full strength again if I remember correctly. They did a four corner fusion or a full wrist fusion for you?
@@tomh1112
I’m 55 and had the 4 corner fusion done.I had 6 visits of physical therapy.My biggest fear is having to go ta a crossbow.The pain is around my pinky finger which is wierd did u have any pain in that area?
Mmm. I guess i could say i had "some" discomfort. Nothing that caused pain that stopped me from shooting my bow. I could tell my tendons and ligaments were basically getting used to being able to move again after being in the cast for 8 weeks.
I'm not trying to say you're old Tom! But im crossing my fingers hoping the recovery is just a tad bit slower than it was for me. I'm about half your age so I hope you get to that place again you can shoot and gain your strength back again@@tomh1112
Did you undergo physical therapy? How did you increase your range of motion?
I'm losing hope with my right hand after the surgery.
did you have the same four corner fusion surgery that I did?
I'm not really sure. All I know is that it was a scaphoid non-union advance collapse. I didn't ask my surgeon nor did he tell me.
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