My Terrible Experience... As A Patient
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
- I have been struggling with a series of injuries over the last several months. I decided to take this treatment into my own hands. I visited a highly-rated acupuncturist in the city who used a new needle technique I've never experienced. This made a huge improvement on the pain I was suffering in my elbow, but I quickly realized a new problem had emerged. There was horrible nerve pain now in my arm. This was very scary as it prevented me from doing several things, and as someone aggressively pursuing a boxing career, I was scared my future was jeopardized. I waited several weeks for the pain to subside, but it never did. So, I looked up a specialist in NYC who could help me. I went online and found a doctor with amazing reviews, a great website, and clips online that gave me a lot of confidence he could help me. So, I booked a quick appointment and went in to get help. This turned out to be the weirdest doctor/patient encounter I've ever experienced. Have you ever had an uncomfortable encounter with your doctor? Let me know down below!
00:00 My Injury
01:33 Acupuncture Accident
03:26 Nerve Damage
04:29 Best Doctor in NYC
05:23 Catfished
05:56 Worst Encounter Ever
08:54 How I Got Treatment
09:35 Key Lesson
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I was 2 years old and wouldn't stop crying. My parents took me to an emergency in a well known reputed hospital. When we reached there, within 10-20 minutes the doctor decided I needed an emergency surgery asap for some problem with my stomach which was life threatening. He also added I was crying because of the pain from my stomach. So they made my parents sign the required documents for surgery and prepared everything for putting me into surgery. There were 4 students as well along with him. My parents felt suspicious of the whole thing and decided to not go with the surgery after consulting with another doctor over the phone. The doctors at the hospital were furious, called the cops and the cops made my parents sign papers that put the whole responsibility on my parents if something happened to me. Later I was diagnosed with an ear infection. Imagine getting surgery on the stomach for an ear infection. So remember what Dr Mike said, You have the right to accept or deny treatment. Not all doctors are good/capable.
were they going to disect you or something!!!!
Please tell me your parents sued, that’s terrifying! I’m so sorry!
they called the cops??? they have no right to call the cops and force surgery!!! where was this???
What a dumb doctor, sorry. We‘re taught that, in children, pain often manifests in the stomach area, even if it‘s not the stomach that‘s hurting. Especially with ear infections (as they are quite common in little children because of their anatomy)!
Holy shiz
I was about 13-14 when I had a pretty intense case of appendicitis. My mom took me to the hospital and the ER doctor 1. didn't do any kind of testing other than pushing on my stomach 2. kept dismissing me and my mom when we brought up concern about my appendix. The doctor insisted it was just period cramps and a hot bath + OTC pain meds would help. Being a young teen, I didn't argue with him, I just said "oh...it doesn't feel like cramps but if you insist" and I went home. That same night I collapsed and was rushed back to the hospital, only to discover my appendix had ruptured. I was in the OR within like 10 minutes of showing up. I don't think I've ever seen my mom as angry as she was because she literally could have lost her child to the negligence of a lazy doctor 🙃
I am so sorry you went through this. Could I ask what appendicitis felt like? My wife is at risk and I want to help her identify it more personally as we both get period cramps and our ohio ERs are not always kind as you can surely believe. Was it easy to kind of tell? Like sharp pain?
I don't mean to press at a pretty bad event. I would be just as upset as your mother and it is shameful what they did.
@@BlondeDGamer the pain with appendicitis is sudden and is mostly concentrated to around the belly button or the right side of the lower abdomen, unlike period cramps being usually more gradual and in the lowest part of the abdomen. digestive issues and low fever are also common.
When I was 16, I went to the ER with a bad flu and the ER doctor insisted I was pregnant. Even though I knew I wasn't and couldn't be pregnant, he forced a full blown pelvic exam on me. I was too sick to protest or advocate for myself.
@@BlondeDGamer It was genuinely one of the worst pains I had felt! It was extremely sharp and didn't feel like period cramps at all. It wasn't 100% localized, the focus of the pain was the lower right side but it radiated up. A big indicator that it wasn't my menstrual cycle was that I had pretty intense nausea and I felt extremely flushed.
Once it got to the point of rupturing, I was very out of it and couldn't really talk from what I remember? I think from a combination of the pain and a fever. I'm 26 now so this was quite a while ago, but I still remember being in excruciating pain.
The exact same thing happened to me. I woke up with a tummy pain if was really bad and I couldn't even get off the couch. My mother took me to the Gp who dismissed it as a tummy ache. The next day I woke up with a unctrollable shaking and trembling. My dad who is a doctor just had some intuition and called the hospital saying he thought I had appendicitis. A few hours later the surgeons came pressed on my tummy a few times and said she didn't think it was appendicitis however she would keep me there and if the pain got worse we could do a ultrasound.
In the end it just turned out I had a high pain tolerance and a good body. I had to fake the pain and it was wirth it I spent a day with a ruptured appendix. Lol Parents have some sort of 6th sense
My symptoms started at 17 years old. Massively hard and bloated tummy, searing waves of pain that brought on sweating. I kept leaving my college lecture to sit in the restroom to get some space while these episodes were happening. I felt very very Ill. I was told to “try and stay in class as this was an important part of my course.” When the lecture ended I managed very slowly to put one for in front of the other to walk the block home. I went to bed still in agony. My housemate called my mum, who came and took me to the doctor, who said we should go to hospital. I went to hospital, I stayed the night, in agony. I managed to get myself to the toilet because I’d started bleeding a lot. Someone came and asked if I was ok, I said I thought so but I didn’t know cos the pain was so bad. They left. I got back into bed. In the morning, the laundry staff came to strip the beds. Despite mine being full of thick gloopy blood, they just put the sheets in the cart and went to the next bed. My mum came, she asked how I was, the nurses said I was fine and probably on drugs and making it up!!! Nobody at that hospital examined me or offered me anything for the excruciating pain that made my vision go black.
These “attacks” came and went over the next 25 years. Resulting in pain several times a day that felt like full electric shocks. I would flash this pain, anything I was holding would fly up in the air and I wasn’t always able to stay upright. I learned to walk every step carefully so as not to jolt my body when putting my heel down for each step I took. For twenty five years I couldn’t dance, run ride a bike… I’d been back to doctors again and again to ask them to look for ovarian troubles etc…. Nothing showed up on ultrasounds and I was turned away dozens of times from various clinics. One day, I went to a gynaecologist in a different country. They used an internal scan thingy which immediately showed a large tumour. It had nerves in it [hence the delicate way I had to walk]. I was in the operating theatre the following week for a hysterectomy to remove the growth that had been pushing on several other places causing terrible problems. Twenty five years of pain vanished after my op. Amazing. I thank that doctor so much. With the first appointment I had with him he found what was wrong, and fixed me.
I'm so sorry that you went through this. It's shocking to me that people think that "American healthcare is the best in the world", when there are 5000 comments on this video right now with horror stories like this one. I have to know what country you went to--it would be nice to find a doctor interested in actually helping me.
@@gracecarpenter8938 Hi Grace. I was in the UK, and finally got help in France. Sorted in one visit. Changed my life. I wish you very well, and hope you find some relief, fast.
Awesome to hear you recovered from this. Stomach pain is the absolute worst.
@@lostgriffit’s called endometriosis
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I got run over by a drunk driver and needed a joint fusion in my foot. Doctor found out I have PTSD and refused to do the surgery and changed the tx plan to a different option with less research and support. When I said I wanted to be able to weigh my options, she said my PTSD made me incompetent and she would be choosing thr tx plan. Needless to say, I found a new doctor
As a physical therapist, the amount of times I've had patients tell me that they don't know what surgery they had or what was injected in them is pretty scary...
Oh God.
I always bring my paperwork from before or any medication with me that way I can show them.
How many of them are elderly?
Why? Their getting the big C shots without knowing what poison is in them. And these are people that read every label on their food pkg. Because they are afraid of red dye #4 or high fructose corn syrup. Really?
How would they? They are lying sleeping or basically knocked out and the doctors can do whatever they want. HOW would they know what exactly is being done to them? 🙄
I had a surgeon either caused or miss a big tear in my duodenum during a gal bladder removal that made me throw up blood. I went back the next day and they sent me home because they said I was "drug seeking". Then they fixed it after I started throwing up blood. When I went to my check up for the first surgery I found out they never even told the original surgeon!
Yikes that a serious issue like why would they think that normal
Sounds like a justified lawsuit.
@@person6757 yup it does
The exact same thing happened to my mum. She nearly died because of doctor negligence, then the same surgeon yelled at my mum when she complained to the hospital. She wasn’t properly sedated and still remembers the whole surgery and is completely traumatised and is scared of hospitals. I’m so sorry this happened to you.
Just out of interest, what country are you in? This happened to my mum in the UK
Sounds like it could've been a legal gold mine. I'm a layman, but what they did looks pretty negligent to me, especially with the way they immediately dismissed your complaint without even forwarding it to your surgeon.
You should've called Saul.
“I genuinely didn’t know what was happening” and he’s a DOCTOR , how terrible to have this kind of experience but i can’t say I’m not relieved that he has been on that side of the table.
My symptoms started at 13, severe hip and knee pain all my doctors (and family which made it even worse) said that is was growing pains and anxiety (I’m a girl) and I kept having these severe pains all the way till now. When I was 14 my new doctor wanted to send me to a specialist. My parents “did not want to spend money on teen angst” and so it took till I was 15 to actually go see the specialist(almost 8 months since my pediatrician said I should see the specialist) there my doctor looked me over did a physical exam and decided the best course of action was to get X-rays on my hips and knee, once he looked over the x-rays he diagnosed me with hip dysplasia and patella tendinitis. It took 2 years for me to get diagnosed and now I’m going to have to get hip replacement surgery and lots of PT. If my parents and previous doctors would of listened I could of gotten treated earlier. I am now 16 and my pain has only worsened (because hip dysplasia remind understanding it’s only curable with surgery) and if my pain worsens I’m going to have to use a wheel chair in order to not go through severe pain.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. When I was a kid I was told for months and months that I just had growing pains. I was finally taken to a rheumatologist and diagnosed with Juvenile Arthritis after my dad noticed I was always limping around the house. It was not only medical personnel that downplayed my issue but my step-mom, her kids, my PE teacher....I felt so vindicated when I was diagnosed lol.
@@rmw9130my god, how do so many people miss that? I imagine a limping person would be a very _obvious_ attestation to something being wrong.
And OP as well, that is just so sad. I remember my mom said how much money she spent on me when I was crying for fourteen days straight and couldn't breathe. It left such a huge scar on my heart I don't think I'll ever forget that.
I feel like this story sheds light on how vulnerable patients can be in situations like this, and unfortunately even if it is within our rights to accept or refuse a specific treatment, I feel like I’m not exactly qualified to do so? Also my anxiety is usually through the roof when I visit a doctor, which makes it even more difficult to say no to something, because my main instinct is to avoid confrontation.
omg so much this. I have massive amounts of dental trauma and combination of "too poor to go to the dentist for a few years" and "dentist i went to sucked". Now i'm scared to go to the dentist to begin with, the money problem hasn't gotten any better (omg dentists are so expensive) and on top of that all these badly done treatments need to be fixed. The worst part is, not all dentists acknowledge how bad the previous treatments were, or want to correct it (Rather than fully redo, or tell me to ignore what my body is telling me thru pain)...i feel its so important to LISTEN to your patients and acknowledge what they're feeling even if you THINK you know better...you may well do, but keep that to yourself. I basically went from not at all caring about dentists or feeling perfectly normal going to one to avoiding them at all costs. i CANNOT tell you HOW MUCH it helps to have someone acknowledge your trauma while treating you btw. i KNOW the root canals i had were bad, i can FEEL the difference in my tooth...you telling me they're fine is not helping.
@@TjPhysicist Oof, lucky for me the dentists i went to were great, and they were quite cheap. My teeth still have huge cavities tho 💀
Yesssss me too
I'm similar, but I've worked on it. My method is to ask logical questions with open ended answers and see where the doc goes. I imagine it's not about me and ask like I'm doing an interview. What are complications? Are they common? Are there other options/methods? Why are those alternative treatments not suitable for me? If something goes wrong, what are the symptoms/complications likely to be? How long will the recovery take? And so on. It's not confrontational, I'm asking for information, it's very sensible stuff to ask about, especially if the doc skipped over things like this. I might hate the doc, but if they sound logical and reply straightforwardly, I'll go along with it.
One time, I had a doctor trying to brush me off and not answer my questions. I just said that "oh, I thought this should be my informed decision/consent, and right now I don't know enough, so I don't feel confident." and the doc very quickly folded and explained.
@@martam307 Those are absolutely amazing questions to ask! Thank you for your story!
Everything you described is exactly what it’s like to be a patient with chronic illness.
Yupp exactly what I was thinking. I have had chronic nerve and other pain for decades and most of my experiences with pain management have been similar to this.
Yes! I absolutely abhor seeing new doctors or nurse practitioners. It’s insane.
everytime I meet a new doctor and they find out about my low blood pressure ...I say nothing to see what they make out of it...and it's very different EVERYtime.. like WHUT
That feeling when you have chronic illness and find a good GP who listens and works with you properly on pain management and other long term symptom management/reduction, and you're looking at them like "please never move away or retire, I want the best for you but I also really wouldn't want to try finding someone this good again because not every doctor is like you"
All chronic pain patients are familiar with the infamous "Oh gawd, YOU again" look we get at the doctor's office. They can't cure us so they're convinced we only want opioids to "get high". If feeling somewhat normal is "getting high", then perhaps that is our goal.
Most pain patients simply want to STOP HURTING, something that seems to baffle medical providers.
Patient advocacy is extremely important. I’m so glad you brought it up. You have to be able to speak up on your own behalf especially when it has to do with your medical care.
Immediately went to look for this comment. It is so so so important. If anything feels wrong or off about a situation even a tiny bit, always ask or say something about it. No one knows your body and what your feeling better than you do. And if they act like they do even after talking about it, find someone else to see. Everything Dr. Mike says - spot on.
Not so easy when you suffer from anxiety
I would give anything for there to be a Dr. Mike in every hospital and practice. I can’t imagine how many patients would feel safe and how many more issues would be resolved, I just love how open he is, and how observant he is. I’ve been in therapy for two years now, with PTSD from traumatic birth, and so many things could’ve been different for me if my doctors weren’t so cruel. There is a new doctor at my OBGYN now, and she is an angel. She’s literally saved my life, I am so thankful for her ❤️
"Intelligent men learn from their mistakes, wise men learn from the mistakes of others." Thank you Mike for giving us this perspective.
Me who does both:
me who does neither:
me who continues to make mistakes despite desperately trying not to
My dad passed away in 2016. I immediately lost so much weight, and became severely depressed. I started to have these uneasy feelings that are so hard to describe, but kind of like vertigo. I didn’t feel like I was moving with my body. I then, began to pass out regularly. I told my doctor and her response was “oh it’s just grief, here’s some antidepressants and anxiety meds.” I continued to lose weight, and dropped to a whopping 79 pounds at 21 years old. I was DYING in front of her eyes and she told me it was grief. Eventually, one cardiologist listened to me and transferred my case to Stanford University. Turns out, I was born with a genetic connective tissues disorder and had developed a condition called Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome or POTS, had extremely low potassium, had to get a potassium infusion at the ER, and my heart was in irregular rhythms with a high risk of going into cardiac arrest. The doctors told me I would’ve died within 2 weeks from how malnourished I had become despite me eating regularly. Safe to say, my doctor never questioned me again.
If you didn't get a new doctor you should have, that's just-ugh.
I have POTS and deal with low potassium sometimes but I don't actually know how or if those are related to each other. I have a mitral valve prolapse as well and problems with my digestion.
@@Meskarune how they explained it to me, was with POTS and the nervous system being so out of whack, it affects the way my kidneys retain fluids along with vitamins like potassium, magnesium, etc. I was put on Florinef to try to retain those nutrients and it seemed to help. The ER doctor actually told me it’s super common for patients with POTS to show nutrient deficiencies along with heart arrhythmias.
@@Echo_the_half_glitch I did end up getting transferred to Stanford, and thankfully they gave me my life back. Now I live across the county and am a nurse! :)
I called POTS from the first few sentences. I was also born with a connective tissue disorder and have POTS as well. It's a very common combo. However trauma can also trigger it so it makes sense it started getting really bad when your dad passed (so sorry for your loss by the way). For some reason, despite it being kinda common? So many doctors dismiss it. There are so many ways one can get it, and there's been a spike because of COVID. Thankfully my doctors didn't shrug me off but I see stories all the time of doctors just saying it's anxiety :/ Sounds like a horrible experience, hope you're doing well
Something I loved about my Doctor is that when I was diagnosed with ADHD and sent to get medicine, is that he took the time to educate me.
He took a marker and drew a diagram on the noisy crinkle paper on how my medications would affect me and their different release mechanisms.
It made me feel way more comfortable and confident in using my meds!
This reminds of of a story that my mom told me they this medical person when explaining the surgery that I had to have on my eyes as a baby or I would have gone blind he literally draw a diagram on his scrubs just to show my mom what was going to happen with the surgery
I grew up with an doctor as father and everytime he was explaining something to me he made such little drawings
The advice at the end boils down to: _You as a consumer/patient have the right to make informed decisions._ You can't make informed decisions if you don't understand what's the situation, the procedure the doctor wants to do, and why, and it is the job of the doctor to clearly explain those things to you. If they can't be bothered to explain, or if they're ignoring patients' concerns, I don't know if they ought to be treating patients.
i can't tell you how many times we have patients scheduled for surgery but don't have their consent signed yet because WE DO NOT GET SIGNATURES UNTIL THE PATIENT IS EDUCATED. The dr has to do the education. If they don't come up and do that, we don't even ask for a signature. And then in the morning the OR is coming to get the patient, consent isn't signed, and OR is pissed at US. We just tell them, "oops, sorry, dr never bothered to educate the patient. You'll have to get the consent down there!" There is no way we're going to take that kind of risk with a patient or gaslight them into signing something that don't understand.
I was a hairdresser for 16 years, and trusting anyone to do my hair is a nightmare. I can't imagine being a doctor, trying to trust other doctors and practitioners with my health.
My terrific hairdresser has this same problem. She needs someone like her!
@@tessat338 It's the honest truth, it's so difficult when you KNOW they're messing up your hair!
Well, as a doctor, you don't need to trust them 100% since you understand what they are talking about, it's more like a conversation and compromises
But as a hairdresser you totally need to trust them 100% and can only see the outcome at the end, knowing you could have done better if you are disappointed, I agree that's tough 😬
@@LinaMed It is lol, honestly I watch like a hawk when they're doing my hair. I notice every little mistake or thing they do that I consider wrong, or less than ideal. Not fun hahaha.
Are you able to straighten really tibgt curly hair without damage
For a period of several years I went to multiple doctors and practices to complain about leg pain. They all told me it was cos of my weight (I'm a little overweight but far from obese) and told me to exercise more, and ignored me when I said I can't cos of the pain. About 10 docs later, I moved houses and tried a new practice which had good reviews. Saw the new doc, and she was the FIRST doctor I saw to actually examine my legs. Turns out, one of my legs is shorter than the other, causing an uneven gait and extra wear on my joints and muscles, and causing the pain. Some special shoes later, I can now enjoy walking my dogs.
I had the same problem but luckily for me i complained about it when I was 7 or 8 years old and my doctor sent me to a bone and joint specialist who gave me special wedges for my shoe, no bs about it
Whenever I visit a doctor they ALWAYS SAY IT'S THE WEIGHT like bro I'm overweight I get it but not Obese!
Weight affects everyone differently but i think doctors should really rule out other issues before jumping to the conclusion about weight. Also in some cases even if it is about weight, maybe the patient cant do anything about their weight bc of food allergies, conditions like PCOS or intestinal issues, etc
@@sweetheartxd287 I'm obese and it still isn't the cause of all my medical problems.
It's so f'g weird that so many doctors don't believe that fat people can get hurt too.
I went to a psych hospital for depression and my doctor told me my parents weren't ready for me to come home, and I needed to be transferred to a different facility for a year. Before I went I saw my parents and they asked why I didn't want to come home... my doctor told them I didn't want to leave and that's why they didn't push to get me out. I was in that hospital for 3 months before I got out.
Hi, child of a psychiatrist here. From the second clause of the first sentence, I was immediately suspicious. A psychiatrist acting as the only available means of communication between a patient and their family has an agenda. Even if there is no agenda, psychiatry has a propensity for attracting narcissists and/or people with god complexes, so it can be quite a crapshoot.
You shouldn't have had to suffer like that. I empathize with you, and it makes me so mad that a psychiatrist put you in such a shitty situation during such a vulnerable time in your life.
@@brinnc-o9065 Thank you for pointing all this out - indeed it's well known that a lot of narcissists tend to go into the medical field and especially mental health. The reason is simply that there they get plenty of access to vulnerable victims - who are guaranteed not to get believed. Some patients might also have a history of abuse, and nothing is as exciting to an abuser as a victim that's already been abused!
A lot is also about making money - keeping people in therapy for years, pushing dangerous drugs at people etc. It's all just greed.
I am both horrified by your experience and weirdly grateful for for a prominent medical professional to have had one like this. So many of us us chronic illness patients who see a large number of providers have had these business bizarre and traumatic experiences and most doctors just outright dismiss that they could have happened. I understand and earn and urge to defend fellow professionals, but this is our real life experience trying to get care. I am deeply sorry that it happened to you though.
I love how Dr. Mike, as a doctor, recognized how hard it is to have doubts as a patient but can't voice it out because we don't have the adequate knowledge to REALLY know what's going on. So most of the time we just rely on the "they're doctors, they probably know what they're doing".
It's also the fear of being told or thought of as "Oh so YOU'RE the medical professional now huh?". I see a lot of social media of medical professionals doing a skit of "that annoying, know-it-all patient/guardian", and it makes me fear speaking-up.
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Last time I went to the doctor, I needed a blood draw. Thing is I have a SEVERE needle phobia. So I explained and very politely asked the guy doing it if I could let him know when I was ready as that degree of control prevents me from having full on panic attacks. I've done this at least half a dozen times with other nurses who happily complied with no problems ever arising so I know it's not an unreasonable request.
Dude tells me not to tell him how to do his job, as well as generally being extremely stubborn about agreeing... Thankfully despite being very rude he did end up cooperating in the end, though he grabbed me very hard and caused way more extensive bruising than I typically get with blood draws...
@@vaughnhaney7020 I hope u get to ask who *can’t* draw ur blood at the office u go to, that guy sounds like a d*ck. Ur not even telling him how to do his job, just asking him to wait for u to be ready.
@@vaughnhaney7020 I always listen to stories like these where the nurses or doctors are egoistic. It’s so unfortunate because they can’t accept different ways to do things or if they did something wrong.
@@justabloke7222 Yeah, I'm honestly afraid of having to go back to that lab for my next blood draw (I tend to need them regularly) in case I get him again. Honestly if I do I might try to specifically request a different nurse, but I'm worried about if that's not an option and he hears so I'm left with no choice that he might deliberately hurt me out of spite...
7:27 I'm a nurse and when Mike said the doctor said the full name of a different patient my jaw dropped! HELLO LAWSUIT!
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@@Barbarianent Yup.
@@Barbarianent YES. The "doctor" is not even paying attention to the patient that he is "examinating"
Hippa BUrsting through the door like the FB frickin I
@@mckenna5446 🤣 exactly!
I’m sorry you had this experience Mike. Unfortunately this is the reality for many of us with chronic illnesses. A single bad doctor can destroy our lives or make us terribly sick. Sometimes multiple bad doctors going off the opinions of others, and riding on certain stereotypes. Women especially get this. I’ve had many negative experiences, but one more recently stands out. I had what ended up being osteomyelitis mismanaged for 3 months and I was told it was “all psychological”, only to go to a different hospital, have an actual scan, and by looking at some of the scans I’d had at the previous hospital; it was definitely a bone infection. 6 weeks on a PICC, surgery, a DVT, and another PICC infection later … I was on antibiotics for 8 months. Just as my colon is beginning to repopulate with bacteria … it has come back. Because of the way the doctors at the first hospital mismanaged the situation initially I have to manage this still a year later. I’m immune suppressed because of biologics for ankylosing spondylitis. None of the doctors at the first hospital took this seriously or understood what a lowered immune system meant. None could spell AS or the specific drug I’m on, none bothered to look it up even. I feel like they’re giving out medical degrees in cereal boxes sometimes …
Very thankful to the amazing doctors who have been managing it since then though!! Great doctors that listen and work with people are the best. We don’t need people who are experts, just those who are humble and helpful with navigating health decisions. Enjoy your channel mate keep it up!
Acupuncturist here. Acupuncture is an invasive procedure, and just like with any other provider we need to get informed consent, which includes explaining the risks and benefits. I've found that most providers in my field don't tell clients much because we work in a model that American mainstream society doesn't recognize as real or valid. But it is possible to enroll your client in their treatment plan, and I hope more folks do that. I work with my clients to explain what I want to do and why at every appointment, and to find the best approach together.
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I see acupuncture as valid. And Chinese medicine as valid as well. As long as we're informed just like you said. And as long as no one labels it as a "cure-all".
In my medical training I was taught "first, do no harm" and "treat the disease, but care for the patient". We learn a lot about treatments and procedures, but listening is probably the most important skill of all.
This. Yes. Thank you.
Yes! And recognize that the patient is the expert on their body and how it feels. They might not know *why* it feels that way or how to treat it - but that’s where doctors come in.
I wish my doctors listened to me. I have spent the last 6 years feeling like I have been talking to a brick wall when it comes to getting care after I was hit by a car. My doctor has even tried to brush my injuries off as”aging”. I tell him I have been complaining about the problems for the last 6 years and been ignored. I swear some doctors ears are for decoration
@@laurabailey1054 I got access to a medical journal And started pursuing my own treatments. I finally found an OD who looked at things differently and finally got a diagnosis.
Listening AND skill of asking question.. because oftentimes we as patients dont know which information is important
I never realized how truly crappy most of my doctors visits were until I started getting treatment at the Cancer Institute. As a cancer patient, in this particular hospital, everything is easy, explained well, doctors are easily available, etc. It's everything I expect medical care to be and I didn't realize how often that was not my experience prior to this.
Yes I feel the same way. I moved all my care to Stanford and they have discovered so many issues and began treatment right away.
Like I've had Lupus for 15 years, and stage three renal failure.
But nobody treated me.
Now I am being treated for numerous comorbidities.
In Latvia it's quite opossite at cancer treatment , it's like being sent to a death row, doctors are mean there - no compassion , my professor were told - what do you expect ?With your diagnose you already should be dead ! Which made him furious , 5y passed cancer resurfaced , recently he passed away he was very nice person with great sense of humour, managed to write 2x books in one particularly speaking about our cancer treatment clinic which has one of lowest rating/review in Latvia!
@@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka Wow. That's awful. I am so grateful I am getting such good care. I know not everyone is so lucky.
So may lesson ive learned
I've noticed this as well while working in a hospital. The Oncologists seem like the most dedicated and compassionate doctors. I wish more primary care doctors cared about their patients to that extent.
I have had a lot of bad experiences with doctors and got a hard time trusting them now. It always feels like they don't know what is wrong with me and they just try to give me some medications to see if something sticks.
Sure their not working on the symptoms and history present, they can only work on what they know but If all that and their still doing what you say then that should give concern I think
Yup, same here.
Fr, I went to the doctor for a rash that would appear after tapering off of Prednisone, and without even looking at it (or seemingly without even listening either), she said it could be fungal, bacterial, etc, and since she doesn't know what type of rash it is, that I should continue using the fungal cream I've been using for a 2 months (with zero results) for an additional 2 weeks and let her know if the symptoms start getting better... I had another flare of my autoimmune disease, so of course as soon as I went back on prednisone, the rash went away before the 2 weeks were done. Now my rash is back again and I see no point in seeing the doctor again, as they just told me to experiment with medications until something eventually works...
Welcome to the other side Dr. Mike. This is what we as patients deal with 90%+ of the time. It's rare to find competent medical doctors like yourself these days.
As a physician, I hope you reported him. He violated HIPPA as well as the fact that he is not listening to his patients, not doing the proper investigating techniques, as so forth. Who knows what he might have done to other patients.
*HIPAA= Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act ;)
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Agree Dr Mike is PART of the PROBLEM if he doesn’t report!
It's so scary to navigate the medical system as a non-medical professional, because as you said, us lay people don't always know when a doctor's explanation doesn't make sense, what treatments are and aren't evidence-based, if the risks are being accurately explained, etc. All we can do is trust that the information we're receiving is complete and correct. I'd love to see a video on what information we should receive before any medical treatment, what questions we should ask, and what independent research we should do before making medical decisions. Just explaining to lay people what red flags look like in a medical visit would be a huge help.
Seconding this!! Help us out Dr. Mike!
This comment needs more attention! It is so hard to know what to ask. Often, when you go in for a problem it is already a stressful or even scary situation because you don't know what could be wrong (or worse, got the usual 'gonna die' diagnosis from Google) so when someone who seems to know what they're talking about, or at least has more credibility than the average person, says something it is difficult to dismiss even if you're uncomfortable.
My mom was admitted to the hospital when her appendix burst. It was the first time any of us in the family had ever been admitted to the hospital (outside of my moms labors). We had no idea what is right/wrong, normal/abnormal, how the hierarchy system works as there are a hundred different people who will come in to do a million different things, who is in charge and who calls the shots. The nurses were absolutely amazing at taking care of my mom and all she needed which made us feel comfortable. Outside of that, case specialists, finance ppl, different doctors, ‘hospitalists’, made us doubt. But in the end we thought we know nothing and they know what they are doing. If they say she is okay they must know what they are talking about. In the end. They were trying to discharge my mom when we really felt she wasn’t ready. Turns out she had developed necrotizing fasciitis which was discovered when a wound nurse specialist actually took the time to look at her. The next month is a blur and a nightmare. My mom suffered and ended up passing away. As I write this I sob just at the memories. And even now I don’t know if this is just something that happened that couldn’t be helped or if there was someone or ppl at fault due to negligence. I don’t know if I should let it go and move on or try to get some answers. I don’t even know how one goes about this. Sometimes I think it might be better to let it be and move on and many others times like when I watched this video, I feel so hurt and wronged. My family has been scarred and has lost a fundamental trust in hospitals and healthcare. I wish we would have been more aware of things that happened that were not right and the doctors lack of interest actually SEEING my mom.
I usually google symptoms. Then rule out the absurd. The actually read about possible diagnoses. When I DO SEE A DOCTOR, I’m somewhat prepared with possible diagnoses and treatments and QUESTIONS!! Advocate for yourself not every doctor knows everything.
If your symptoms aren’t improving or worsening. Find someone new. And don’t go somewhere that’s cash pay. Having contracts with insurance companies can be a sign they are bonafide.
Yeah, I’ve learned the hard way: if the person you are seeking help from seems weird then just leave. I’m an MD PhD and have had similar experiences. In fact I’m currently writing a complaint against a hospital for a similar situation.
I’m so glad you’re advocating for a patient’s right to accept or deny treatment! It’s something I believe many people do not realize they have and advocating for yourself with a medical professional or authority figure is tough.
I’m no stranger to this, but my boyfriend recently went to the ER for an intense headache in which he was nauseous, couldn’t hold down even water. When I brought him to the ER and he was admitted, not once did the doctor come to see him. Everyone but the doctor came in. The ONLY time the doctor came in was to convince my boyfriend to get a CT Scan. I want to point out that this doctor had another man come into the room and blocked the exit of the room, and didn’t introduce himself (didn’t even know if he worked for the hospital because he wasn’t wearing any scrubs).
The doctor didn’t even give my boyfriend a chance to put his two cents in this conversation. It was essentially the doctor repeating “You need to get this CT Scan or else we won’t know if you’re really okay. It’s better to be safe than sorry. So we’re doing this. I’m going to put in an order for the CT Scan.” My boyfriend uncomfortably nodded his head. And I got so mad at the way they were making my boyfriend uncomfortable THE WHOLE TIME that I said “Well what about what HE wants??” Looked at my boyfriend and asked “What do YOU want? Because I want what YOU want. Just because they’re saying you have to get it doesn’t mean you have to- you have a right to accept or deny the CT Scan. It’s your health. Do you want the CT Scan?” And he started finding his voice again. When the doctor tried persuading my boyfriend to reconsider my boyfriend kept firm and said he didn’t want a CT Scan. He wasn’t given any meds only got vitals and blood drawn before this whole ordeal. No one asked him about what his history was, what had happened leading up to this in more detail, just left him in a room to struggle in pain and throw up. The doctor was real pissy after and never showed up again. When I was trying to find someone to get a cup of water for him, the doctor was on the phone talking loudly about my boyfriend while two nurses on the other side were joking around. Tried getting their attention for 5 minutes. Doctor made eye contact with me and decided to turn the other way to continue his call about my boyfriend (I know because he said the room number, name and age of my bf).
Moral of the story- ethics and respect plays a big role in the medical world. The doctor is probably right- it’s better to be safe than sorry- but my boyfriend was not going to be safe in the hands of someone who clearly doesn’t care of his own patients’ well-being and comfort. He was even saying that if my boyfriend dies and we could have prevented it with a CT Scan that it would be a shame! If you ever feel uncomfortable about treatment, don’t be afraid to speak up. It’s your right as a patient to accept or deny treatment AND your choice MUST be respected (however, there ARE some exceptions to this). If you don’t feel comfortable being alone- bring someone you trust to be your back-up.
Afterwards, the nurse had given my boyfriend a painkiller and anti-nausea medication. The hospital had him sign papers relinquishing all liability on the hospital if something happened to him relating to the refusal of care after his discharge. I let my boyfriend know if he changed his mind about a CT Scan I will bring him elsewhere because we both didn’t trust that hospital and their ability to provide adequate care. He’s perfectly fine now after being able to rest and rehydrate.
Edit: After reading the comments section and reading so many others’ medical experiences, I would love to see you react to them.
A report to the doctor’s medical board for his HIPPA violations (sharing a patient’s personal info & identify) as well as his apparent incompetence to practice medicine is a fair & safe response to your bad medical experience. Being a doctor who has also been a patient definitely sheds light on both sides of the medical experience. Hope you’re healing well. 🍁
Agree! If Dr Mike does not report, he is PART OF THE PROBLEM.
Please know that it is spelled “HIPAA,” not “HIPPA.”
@@elstongunn4277 A misspelling from typing too fast. I’m aware. Thank you.
Hahaha reporting to the medical boards likely doesn’t do much. They get a slap on the wrist for things like killing actual patients. Lookup the infamous “Dr Death”. There’s been countless incompetent doctors and nurses who literally just move hospitals once they harm too many patients. It’s insane.
@@ReillyWilde Ahh yes, I also experience spammer's hand from time to time.
Wow.
Now I wonder how many patients wasted their money because they didn't know that this guy was basically giving them wrong treatment plans
Also, get well soon, Mike!
@ٴ go away
Edit: lol he actually deleted the reply I’m happy I actually accomplished something in life
Lol
i'm a jerk i was the one who gave you your 70th like
I agree, I live in Canada but it's scary to think that doctor would have possibly made his arm worst.
@@LittleGameDev Any doctor can make a situation worse especially those with a God complex.
So many people dismiss nerve pain and chronic pain without any idea of what the person who is struggling with it is going through. Thank you for validating the very real agony a bad nerve day can be.
My doctor told me that opioids have a euphoric side effect. It took me close to an hour to get to the point where I realized that means some people have an effect other than just not being in pain. I am happy because I am not in pain. That is literally the only goal I have. You are seen.
I have had horrible experiences with doctors, not only me but even my family and because of these awful experiences I don’t like nor do I want to go to see the doctor. I wish that there were doctors like you that cared about trying to get the root of the problem and caring about treating the patients, but most of them just treat symptoms and don’t care about helping people who ever gets the opportunity and privilege of having you as a doctor I would say they are truly blessed. Thank you for sharing your videos with us and being transparent and just being a great doctor.
Yeah he went to some really bad doctor that was in for the profit I hate doctors like that like what benefit is that doctor getting from not finding the root problem the goal is to treat the issue not to assign medications for it to make it temporarily feel better so you can keep coming to them it is to cure so they get a good reputation now not all doctors are like that but a lot of doctors are like that at prestigious hospitals though I’d expect less of thst because doctors aren’t worrying about billing their patients since the hospital pays that but at non individual centers a lot of thst is seen which is crazy
My son was 3 months old, 10 pounds and throwing up everything he ate. I went to so many doctors and all they did was switch formulas! I told them over and over something is wrong!!! I finally walked into a random office and told the nurse what was wrong and begged for an ultrasound to see if it was pyloric stenosis. The dr, without even seeing my son, trusted this desperate mom. He order the ultrasound and I had a follow up visit with him and finally met him. Everything came back clear. He switched my son to elecare and ordered a swallow study. That came back normal. At that follow up, I told him that I noticed what looked like a golf ball in his groin when he cried. My son had an ear infection so we thought it might be a swollen lymph. Started antibiotics and saw him again a couple days later where his med student saw us first. The med student instantly saw the golfball as my son cried. He told me he thought it was a inguinal hernia. Went and got the doctor and it was indeed. My son had surgery a day later along with an Endoscopy. All they found with that was he had an intolerance to the protein in normal milk, something we already knew. My sons doctor explained prior to even meeting a surgeon that he was confident this would solve the throwing up. He explained it as a kinked hose and the only way for it to go was up. His surgeon wasnt so sure and he was the one who ordered the endoscopy. I told the surgeon that I was pretty sure he had 2 hernias, one and each side. The surgeon said the pobability of that was less than .003%. After taking my son back and getting an IV in, the surgeon came back and told us we were right that they saw the 2nd pop as he cried due to the iv. We singed a new form to have both herians repaired. Immediately after surgery my son was 100% better. Went we followed up with his primary, I told him about the surgeon saying it was .003% chance. The doctor say something I will never forget and I think is so important about medicine "there is a difference between probability and possibility" I have never forgotten those words! My son is now 5.5 and thriving! He has had no issues since! I thank God for his doctor everyday!!! He trusted a desperate mother begging for someone to listen to her!
this is insane, im glad ur son is better now!
Pathetic medical care! hope you didn't have to pay the 1st few doctors who saw your kid! if you did, then such a sad state of affairs is our medical system at! Glad to see he is doing well now!
Oh my gosh, I can't imagine being a literal baby with a hernia! That must've been so scary for HIM, let alone you! I know they just can't do in-depth exams with everyone all the time, but they ought to take more care with babies since a baby can't advocate for himself or tell you in his own words what he's feeling.
@@sidb9540 I think the medical education is to blame. Not the doctors. Unless the doctors where lacking in terms of refining their knowledge or care.
After the first two sentences, I was said to myself "but they at least did an ultrasound to check for pyloric stenosis right?" Because that's an emergency, they needed to discard it immediately... Very disappointed that you had to beg for one. They should have investigated further regardless, because there are plenty of causes that can lead to this, and it could have been very dangerous. Sure, switching the formula is a good first step, but you must continue the investigation once it doesn't work
Then the hernia: when you have an inguinal hernia in a kid younger than 1yo, the probability of it being bilateral is not 0,003% (that sounded absurdly low, so I checked UpToDate, which is a plataform with updated medical information meant for doctors to consult), it's actually 10% (up to 50% if the child is premature or had a low birth weight).
It's shocking that they examined your baby and didn't notice a golf ball sized growth in his inguinal region. It's also very strange they thought it could be related to an throat infection, since the inguinal lynphonodes are not part of the throat drainage system. The antibiotics probably would have made sense, anyway, if it was a enlarged lynphonode, but a proper physical exam should be able to tell an inguinal hernia and a lynphonode apart, and there are exams that could be order in case of doubt. A proper physical examination would have spared you from all of this, but I guess doctors can't bother to examine their patients...
(disclaimer: I'm not a doctor myself (yet), but I'm a med student, one year from my degree. I have finished pediatrics, both theoretical and practical parts, and based everything I said on research on medical sources to make sure that I wouldn't be saying anything incorrect)
Being chroniclly ill, this kind of interaction has happened to me on so many occassions. I have had doctors just talk to talk. I have had doctors say that what I am experiencing is not what was happening (when it actually was/is). I have had doctors treat me like there was nothing else to do unless I had it done their way. I have had an ENT focous on my vascular malfornation on my face (which was being treated by another doctor) instead of the horrid dizziness I was actually experiencing, treating my complaint as an after thought.
You have to self advocate and be able to say 'no' in scary situations. Doctors are just humans; they cannot know everything.
being chronically ill is a nightmare unless you find good Doctor's, I thankfully have a couple good ones who listen to me & help me but it took time to find them
I've dealt with similar issues myself, as another chronically ill person.
All of what you are experiencing is called medical gaslighting
You say no and then they say you're argumentative 😑
Or them saying, it's not pain; you're just imagining it. So frustrating. 😪🙄
This reminds of a doctor's appointment I went to when I was around 15. I have a history of a chronic pain condition and one day my dog pulled in the leash yanking my wrist. When I went to get it checked out he walked in talking about stress and was starting to recommend options before even asking me anything let alone an examination. During the exam I cried and yelled in pain, which is a lot for me because my pain condition has given me a strong pain tolerance. And he minimized my pain by noting "slight pain, acute discomfort" worst appointment of my life
You know, as much as I'm sorry that you had to go through that, I'm also genuinely kind of happy that you did, Doc. Not because I want you to get poor care, but because it's so vital for doctors to know what THAT feels like. To seek medical assistance, and be just completely dismissed by the people who're supposed to help you. Hell, you even got the bonus experience of your doctor bringing up your weight out of absolutely NOWHERE. While talking about your *elbow.*
not related at all but great name car-in lol
Yuuup, I stopped going to my general dr because she said my grades where to good for me to have adhd. And that was after I was proven to have severe adhd by a neuropsychologist.
Later I had Dr's insist my iud was fine after dr inserted it wrong and it was completely upside for two weeks before they would remove it. It was causing labor contractions and severe pain allover the entire time and they told me it was fine.
Oh my gosh the weight thing. I injured my hip and after telling me he couldn't see anything on the MRI so clearly I was fine, the doctor said I was fat and should lose weight. I was 125 pounds wtf. I was young and felt so embarrassed I left without getting a diagnosis or treatment. Was in pain for years. I understand that excess weight can strain certain injuries, but that comment was totally uncalled for and I feel like he said it to bully me into silence.
@@OneLegFlamingo1 what? 125 pounds isn't fat unless google didn't convert it into kg correctly. He should have at least treated you before being a sadistic a******
@@OneLegFlamingo1 I- 125 is a perfectly normal weight?! Its like some drs don't know what a normal or average weight is
Seeing "Doctors" decide how they would treat my daughter without ever meeting her is my ultimate red flag. She suffers from a coalition of conditions and they make her care a very controlled balanced thing. We can't make big changes, or discard certain things we are doing now, and I still get docs who don't even come into contact with her trying to change everything.
Imagine going to Children's hospital because your little girl has pneumonia and then some greasy guy comes in talking about having J tube surgery while you're there!!!!! Just "Oh hey since your here mind if we slice her up some? No its not weird that it hasn't been mentioned before and I'm just blind siding you with a SURGERY!"
You are a cash prize to a lot of doctors and that's the American way.
Here in Canada you have an electronic medical record that is shared between hospitals and doctors so if you go somewhere new they can access your file and better understand your situation. I've never once had a bad doctor visit my entire adult life and I have tons of conditions.
Private OPDs around the world
It’s unfortunately not such a rare situation that these things happen.
From my own experience and experiences of others, but also while I was still working in the field.
Some people are very arrogant and make mistakes because of it.
I also urge the people around me to do their own research and print out the information to bring to the next visit and to not make any decisions unless you understand what you are saying yes to.
From personal experience with my own health I’ve noticed big delays in their knowledge being updated. To be fair, my disease is rare, but when the information is out there to find they should probably at least do a quick google search. But maybe that’s weird to expect these days.
So instead I printed all the information and send it to them digitally, because it was valuable information.
It’s sad that we have to, but advocating for yourself or your loved ones is crucial sometimes. But you already know that from experience with your own daughter.
Im just glad that we have good access to information these days and are no longer blindsided and have no other option than to follow one person’s lead.
We can actually have some control in this.
@@brothersandsistersofvalhalla we have that too, but still it requires physicians to communicate with each other and I have seen it happen multiple times where treatments would interfere with each other.
Im glad it worked out for you tho!
I ended up hospitalized with autoimmune hemolytic anemia because it took multiple doctors over multiple states over many months for anyone to take my care seriously. I was only admitted after my parents demanded a blood test for me, I was 10 at the time.
Thank you for being a patient advocate and help explain patient-focused care while still respecting the science
It’s so unfortunate how easily this can happen to people, especially when they don’t have the medical knowledge to combat the misinformation. Plus, the money issue! Ugh!
I’m glad this all worked out for you, Dr. Mike!
Yeah the whole "cash only" was a HUGE red flag for me
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@@mochs62512 Totally!!
I was having my first ever (non-epileptic) seizure which was triggering my CRPS (very severe chronic nerve pain) and the seizure had caused my left hip to sublux too (I also have EDS) so I was screaming in the worst pain I've ever been in whilst actively seizing for 5 HOURS and a nurse told me "you have to stop screaming now, we have actually sick patients to treat"
she's the type of nurse that will try to cure someone with a cold over someone with a gunshot wound through the shoulder.
I have crps too. It is awful!!!
I'm so sorry u went through that
This type of treatment is very common when you have neurological disorders/ diseases.
Some hospitals get a lot of drugies and people that... aren't mentally all the way there. If it was someplace like that then it makes a lot of sense that the nurse would assume you are one of those patients.
Headline: Doctor Mike has an experience as a patient much closer to what normal people have almost every time they go to the doctor
Thanks Dr. Mike this is excellent advice ! I’ve had too many negative Dr./ Patient encounters, we need to know we have the right over our own selves ! Whether physical or Emotional !, 👍🏼
I was a pediatric patient presenting with sudden, severe, periodic muscle weakness in my legs that meant I literally couldn't get out of bed without falling. When I told the specialty pediatric neurologist this, he said "so you were lounging in bed eating grapes." I left the appointment in tears because all I wanted was to know why I couldn't walk.
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@thicc kitty That would be illegal. Since he doesn't have video evidence or any other evidence of the encounter, name-dropping the specific doctor would violate defamation laws.
@@me-myself-i787 Im sure the doctors visit was documented, therefore any video evidence wouldnt really be needed.
it wouldnt, theyre not accusing the doctor of commiting a crime, simply stating an opinion about him which happens to be bad. Not that big of a deal, really, the same as if u were just to leave a bad opinion and rating on google, trip advisor or whatever and decribed the expierience.
@@me-myself-i787people have strange ideas about what's illegal
I don't have a dramatic story like many of the comments do or Doctor Mike. But when I was in college, both my roommate and I woke up in the middle of the night with fevers and extremely sore throats. We went to the campus clinic and saw the same doctor. He told us both that it was a viral infection and there was nothing he could do. However, since I had just been treated for strep and my last exam had a high white count in my blood, he wanted to re-test me. He literally told my roommate "wow, that (her throat) looks like hell! Well, it's viral so maybe go back to the dorm and eat a salad." He called me not even 5 minutes after I got back to my room saying my white count was through the roof and I needed antibiotics. He didn't bother to call my roommate to get her treatment. Her mom was furious and drove an hour to campus to pick her up and take her to another clinic where she was treated for strep with antibiotics.
The fact that this doctor didn't even test either one of us for strep just shows how lazy medical professionals can be 🙄
A lot of doctors have the "God" complex, and think they know it all and are infallible. Best guess based on what the patient says but they need to test with blood work, MRIs, x-rays, etc. They aren't always right.
The US has the fast strep tests too... Where I am now they send the strep test out to a lab and won't have the result for 5 days... and 5 days of untreated strep is pretty ugly. No idea why they don't have the 5 minute test here, they certainly have the resources to.
same thing happened to me, I ended up going to emergency to try and get treatment 2 nights in a row as I was given antibiotics by a doctor but the absolute lowest dose because he insisted it was probably viral but he’d give them to me ‘just in case’. my fever kept going up and was hitting 39.5C degrees and my throat being so raw and sore that I could hardly swallow water let alone any food even though I maxed out my daily intake of Panadol
8 hours in the waiting room on the 2nd attempt being seen by emergency cause a nurse dismissed me since my fever had just broken (but I was still severely dehydrated and sickly). we had to wait for the night staff to leave and others to show up and me and leave before me with less serious issues before I was finally seen and they confirmed it was a really bad case of strep throat and put me on IV fluids and antibiotics.
@@zvxcvxcz I am from Europe. They don't test for strep. In all honesty, both viral and strep feel terrible. I had throat pain so many times including fever, etc. From the latest information I could find, if you don't have immuno probems, it does not really matter whether you take the antibiotics against strep. It however takes longer to overcome and you will stay contagious for longer. This would mean that it will reduce your productivity and it is best to stay home. Resisting the urge to grab antibiotics would help to stay more vigilant against bacteria resistance, but I might be biased by how I was raised. It goes to show that healthcare also relates to culture.
When I was 16 or 17 I kept blacking out in class. Like I was coherent and could hear everything that was happening around me but I couldn't respond. Despite my mom thinking I was faking it, she took me to an immediate care that was affiliated wit the local hospital. They had the ability to do a CT scan at this location. The doctor told my mom I was indeed faking it and sent me home. It was a few days later that I had a Grand Mal seizure that I coded from and landed me in a coma for a week. By the grace of everything good I am here today to tell the tale.
I know this is an older video, but I have something to add to this. It isn't easy to advocate for yourself when you are forced into procedures (knowing they will not help) just to RECEIVE help.
I have Ehlers-Danlos hypermobility syndrome, lots of bulging discs, all of my major joints dislocate. Yes, I am made to get injections for "pain" when I do not respond well to these medicines just to receive medicines. There is no where to go that will not make you get these stupid injections that will ultimately worsen my osteoarthritis. It's chronic, it's never going away unless I am wired together and never move again.
I suppose I just don't understand why no one talks about these "additional" procedures that people are forced to get yearly, sometimes bi-yearly. It's pitiful. If you're disabled, your screwed. We can't afford to go to good doctors and there are no specialists that are willing to try and work with us. I've lived in three states and no where have I found a place willing to give me meaningful care.
Alright, I'm done y'all. Sorry about that. Good vid though. All excellent points.
I had a bad experience with a dermatologist last year when he diagnosed me with vitiligo. I didn't want to do any treatment because I have very fair skin anyway, and for the most part it was barely noticeable. But he implied, without directly saying so, that it looked horrible and was quite extensive, and recommended some intense treatment options that I wanted no part of. Never went back to him, and never will. I'm fine with my situation and wish that he had not damaged my confidence like that.
This condition is more acceptable now. And don't let some stupid greedy doctor dictate your worth. I think vitiligo is beautiful.
Vitiligo is beautiful imo. I think it's insane that a doctor would try to force you into a treatment and try to damage your confidence so he could get some extra money off of you. That's disgusting behavior.
I don't think vitiligo is a life threatening ailment in any way. It is super rare in humans and even rarer in pets (dogs and cats). As I understand it, it's just a pigmentation issue. It's not the way you look that defines you.
i have vitiligo
Just remember to put plenty of high SPF suncream on, and make sure to get suncream which protects against UVA and UVB. Vitiligo can make you more vulnerable to the Sun because of the lack of melanin in your skin.
As a 21 y/o female who has been in and out of the hospital a lot as a kid, I’ve had so many doctors not listen to me, tell me something was because of my period, tell me I needed a treatment when I didn’t, nurses try to give me food or water that I couldn’t have, etc. I’ve almost never felt comfortable speaking up because I’m scared they’re gonna get mad and treat me worse if I say something or report them. In the week after my kidney transplant I had 1) a broken capsule of an immunosuppressant given to me 2) a nurse try to please me by giving me tap water (iykyk) and 3) a nebulizar treatment given to me for 6 days for my “asthma” which I don’t have and isn’t on my chart. They also had barely any options for food when it came to my gluten intolerance. In every single one of those instances and many others, I was having to correct the doctors or nurses. I was on a transplant floor. They only worked with transplant patients. Why did I know better??
I know how you feel! I had undiagnosed celiac disease for 22 years because of Drs passing it off as period pains. It wasn't until I started a journal of what I ate to when it caused pain and how long I was in the bathroom for that my Dr started to pay attention, by that time it was so greatly affecting my quality of life, at 22 I could work, go out, eat because I was in excruciating pain all the time and I couldn't stay awake that I was ready to give up and just end it. Finally he sent me to a specialist and after by biopsy he confirmed I had not only celiacs but the worst case the surgeon had even seen. 3 years later I'm finally on the mend and feeling better...not great, but I'm living again
@@jamiemasters2464 I have celiac disease too and one of the best things I've done to help heal my intestines is start taking a powdered collagen supplement. You might try that to help you feel closer to 100%.
@@samterry1062 Please provide the evidence for a supplement if you're going to make recommendations here.
I’m not sure if I know but I’m gonna guess that they gave you tap water when you were NPO or on a fluid restriction..?
@@Ssylphie no. It’s recommended (at least by transplant doctors in my state) that transplant patients shouldn’t drink tap water because it’s not clean enough for people who are immunosuppressed. And the only time that I’ve accidentally drank it, it made me sick for 2 days so it’s not just a precaution. But that nurse was willing to give me some the day after my surgery even after I told her my doctors said I couldn’t have any.
That makes me feel slightly better about my horrible experiences lately, I had a cardiologist tell me I couldn’t have had VTach bc it’s life threatening before reading my holter monitor info then when he saw it clear as day he didn’t apologise for being wrong without the evidence that was clearly there. He was just a jerk and this was literally insane, thanks for making me feel better lol
I got a full on SPINAL TAP when I was 6 months old because doctors refused to listen!!
I had a mild fever, so my mom called the pediatrician to ask how much Tylenol to give me, but the pediatrician frantically sent us to the ER, where they frantically tried to figure out what was wrong, while my mom was screaming at them. She literally thought I was dying. When they finally listened to her AFTER the spinal tap that she hadn't given me Tylenol yet, they said SHE was at fault for letting them do all that without telling them--she had been screaming it the whole time and they wouldn't listen!!
Mike, this story got me emotional. To me, you entered what I call the "Medical System Twilight Zone" and that is what your story is about. My father is a retired chief of anesthesia and he was very good; I am not a doctor but I have a good science background.
Growing up I had a nearly implicit faith in American medicine due to my family background. Now in my 30's some opinions have changed. My father worked with some "top guys" in our local area, "slick" as he called them, but even so he would always comment on their eccentricities, quirks and blind spots. When you reach the outlier regions, this is honestly an extremely weird field full of extremely weird people whose authority is protected by veils upon veils of money and hierarchy- echo chambers abound.
My dad historically defended the system or had middle-of-the-road, talking point opinions on things for most of my life. Eventually that shifted a little. 2 years ago I drove my dad to the ER in the middle of the night for what was a massive bilateral pulmonary embolus, he needed the whole deal, vena cava filter, sleep study, supplemental O2, etc. He went down the insurance rabbit hole for his CPAP machine and supplemental because the hospitalist failed to put in a note about it, took him 1 month+ to get it due to bureaucracy etc. Faith decreased.
The next year my sister developed a terminal autoimmune condition which induces seizures and death without treatment (she has recovered thus far with appropriate treatment). She was on the other side of the country from my dad- "we can't send you here, we can't send you there, hope you get better!" to a person who was barely conscious. Faith decreased. He was furious. Have you ever heard a neurologist say something like, "Well, if you do have a seizure under those conditions, perhaps you could attempt to crawl toward the door or the phone, and someone might help you?"- and say it confidently and without change in affect? We have.
The same year while looking after her I went to urgent care for some vestibular/equilibrium disturbance and was harassed by my examiner about not completing the paperwork quickly enough, "Have you ever seen a doctor in your entire life?" (again, my father is a retired chief of anesthesia for whatever that's worth), while on the verge of having a panic attack. Was referred to the ER (docs were excellent) but that's beside the point. Again my dad was pissed.
These twilight zones do exist- ranging from hostile docs and nurse practitioners, to top guys with no remaining capacity to listen and a mouth that never stops, protecting their medical authority and establishing no genuine connection with the patient at all. The most telling thing to me is that even you, who are a well-versed medical authority, who had interviewed the surgeon general of the united states, had your faith in yourself shaken even temporarily so that you didn't speak up while this guy went on with his Duckspeak for 30 to 40 minutes. Now imagine you're a layperson with no knowledge of medicine who has put your faith in the system to cure what ails you.
Anyway Mike I hope you read my venting here, I love medicine, it can be man's salvation or man's curse depending on who you're dealing with, today I'm in hypnotherapy and ethics are very important to me. Thanks for reading, love this story, hope the discomfort of it sticks with you like it did for my dad.
Thank you so much for sharing your story. It’s important for people to know. I’m glad that you and your family were able to make it through, but you are right. No one should have to go through that.
@@Redorgreenful Thank you very much, it's been a very painful series of years and that people have read my little monologue does mean a lot. I know other people have experienced things similar to these as well.
This is the best name for it I've heard.
@@ccl1195 Honestly reading through made me feel a bit pissed myself, but honestly I think it’s best that anyone who has went through such experiences should spread some relative amount of awareness to those close-to, or around them. As this problem can =as you mentioned= save lives or take them.
I had to use Equals symbols because RUclips changes the font if I use dashes.
props to the people who actually read this
To share my own worst medical experience: I spent about 7 weeks unable to eat anything, with severe abdominal pain, and unable to drink anything but water for about half of that. The first medical professional I went to see told me it was an infection, despite my lack of fever. She checked my throat (for ABDOMINAL pain and digestive symptoms) and never even looked at my abdomen, and when I said I'd considered going to the ER she told me I shouldn't "waste their time" because it wasn't an emergency. Second clinic a week later took blood but couldn't do much, they referred me to a GI specialist who was highly recommended but insisted that my pain had to be restricted to either upper or lower abdomen. When I told him that my entire abdomen hurt, he just told me to pick one. He did an endoscopy, which basically showed inflammation (which is typical of many possible things) and nothing else. After going through five specialists, weeks of tests, and basically just being told I needed more tests, I reached a point where the pain reached a nine. I went to the ER because I could no longer eat or sleep and couldn't really focus to do anything but sit there in pain. The ER doctor didn't know either, but had me admitted because I'd lost around 100 pounds during the course of the illness. Luckily, a resident in the hospital thought it might be pancreatitis, which it was. (To be fair, I give them some slack for not thinking of pancreatitis as I have no risk factors for it at all (don't drink, don't smoke, no fast food, etc.) but I really think something should have been done well before this went on past a month.)
How is not being able to eat for 7 months an emeregency? That is horrible. I hope You’re better now.
I have the autoimmune disease, lupus (among a slue of other health conditions), so I see many doctors. I also work in healthcare and so I have a lot of interactions in this healthcare industry. The sad part is that these kinds of things happen all the time. When I wear my scrubs into a doctors office I am treated completely different compared to when I dress casually. It is crazy to me that I can go see the same exact doctor and get talked to professionally when I'm wearing scrubs and then talked to like a child when I'm wearing normal clothes. Dr. Mike talks about the fact that if you feel uncomfortable then you shouldn't get a procedure done and I thought that was so important for people to know. There was an occasion where my mother went to a neurologist because she was referred to by her Rheumatologist for this really painful test called Electromyography (they stick needles into your muscles to record the electrical activity of muscle tissue. From my experience this involves twisting and pressure applied from the needle and once the needle is in they send electrical pulses through your nerves.... very painful) When I picked her up she had blood running down all of her extremities and she was crying. I took her back into the office and asked for some gauze and bandages. Then I talked to my mother on the drive home she told me that he didn't wear gloves while using needles, didn't clean the areas he poked, didn't bother to bandage her, and hardly even spoke to her for her to understand what was going on in the first place. I myself had to have this test done and it is something extremely painful to get done. I couldn't imagine going into that experience with no warning of what was to come. It just goes to show that the bedside manner of many doctors needs to be improved. All healthcare workers, including doctors, should use compassion and empathy when treating their patients. Unfortunately, I have seen and had too many experiences to know that this is many times not the case. Thank you doctor Mike for pushing for people to advocate for themself and understand and take charge of their healthcare plan! We need more people like you in the healthcare field.
My worst encounters have been w.gastro docs. They either said they couldn't give me anything, i was crazy, or did no exams and jumped to diagnosis. Wasn't till a yr and a half later I found a doc who actually did a proper examination and diagnosis.
Years ago, I had to have a major surgery. But, even though it was my first (and so far only) surgery, I wasn't the slightest bit afraid at all. And, that's entirely thanks to how open and honest the surgeon had been in our consultations. I had to have multiple procedures done in one go. He straight up told me that, although he had plenty of experience performing each procedure individually, I would be the first time he's ever had to do all of them on the same patient, and at the same time. Also, he had never done these surgeries on someone my age. (I was 16 at the time, but most of his patients were middle aged or older.) He also explained in detail how each procedure would be done, and he made sure I understood all of the potential risks and side effects, from the most likely down to the most remote and least-likely. Then, he gave me a good piece of advice that has stuck with me forever. He said that *ALL* surgical procedures, even the simplest and most basic ones, have some risk involved. And, if any doctor tells me that there isn't any risk, I need to immediately just stand up and walk out of the office and never go back. I haven't needed any surgeries since then, but I still follow that advice with just regular, basic care. When a doctor wants to start a new treatment or medication, my very first questions are about side effects, risk factors, and drug interactions. And, I've actually had a few doctors dismiss my concerns, and one even straight up lied about the side effects. Thanks to my surgeon's advice, I didn't hesitate to find treatment elsewhere. So, ALWAYS ask, ALWAYS advocate, ALWAYS speak up, and ALWAYS make sure your bs detector is turned on. (Btw, that surgery I had... it went faster, smoother, and had significantly fewer complications than anticipated. Plus, not only did I make a full recovery, but I also recovered in less than half the time everyone thought I would. I basically became my surgeon's favorite patient after that. Even a decade later, I was still a legend at his office!)
This. *Any* surgery, no matter how skilled the surgeon or anesthesiologist, no matter how simple the surgery is, and no matter how healthy you are has risks, including death. Although it's rare, it's there, and if a doctor tells you it's not, run away.
I read that as "make sure your doctor is turned on" and was like alright, if you insist 😯😏😂
Gosh you are super lucky to have had that initial experience, I had something similar and here in New Zealand our patient code of rights is designed to have this outcome, it doesnt always, but most of the time it ensures it. But can you imagine if your first introduction to serious medical treatment was as Dr Mike explained here? You'd think that was normal and could get completely screwed!
Yay for being your own advocate
Its honestly crazy how there is such a wide spectrum of quality in the medical field. This definitely sheds light on both, why people dont enjoy visiting doctors and also why people dont trust doctors in many cases. The cost vs the uncertainty of quality and the fact that they may easily be lying/being misleading or falseifying things is just not okay.
Just remember the number one graduate of 100 at med school is called Magnim Com Laude. the 100th is called, doctor.
I’m one of the people who doesn’t like to tell doctors about my pain. And such.
C's = MD....You can become a doctor even you were just scraping by in med school. The bright and talented doctors are far and few.
The best doctor i ever went to was like 67 years old and was a tough old school kinda rough around the edges grouchy older guy but you could not slip any medical issue past him his experience was good enough he got everything right and treated it well and was the best doctor I ever went to cause he listened, gave his exam and opinion and treated you and you were in and out fast and he didnt over charge you.
@@sunnylife7203 I agree with that BUT to even get into medical school requires incredibly high grades as well as extracurricular work. I wouldn’t say most doctors are untalented or not bright.
Thank you so much for making this video. I once went through a bad doctor interaction and I felt so alone and confused. I knew I couldn’t have been the only one to experience something like this but I didn’t know who to talk to or what to do next. I felt pressured to do a procedure and not by the doctor but from threat of my insurance ending soon so time constraints. I would tell anyone and everyone now to bring someone with you to help you advocate for yourself and feel safe with. I would tell everyone that your general vibe with your doctor and how much you feel heard matters. Thank you again for talking about this.
I was 16 living in Aurora Co when I became very ill. Started with nausea and fever, water and saltines were ALL that would stay down. I developed a headache so my mom took me to the ER. Dr came in looked me over and said it's the flu drink water and take this anti emetic. I couldn't keep the pill down, went back because the headache was so severe I couldn't see and things were terrifying. Same diagnosis, only instead of a pill I get a suppository, thanks Doc. 4 visits in under 6 days, same tests same diagnosis same treatment, getting worse. A nurse finally insisted they do more when, on the 5th visit, my testing bpm was at 168 and I couldn't see!! 2 hrs later they think spinal meningitis.. turns out I was septic from an UTI with no symptoms. I would have died if not for that amazing nurse!!
Video gave me flashbacks! I once had the nerve hit in my shoulder while receiving a B12 shot and it was incredibly painful. I told the doctor in the moment how much it hurt and he shrugged me off to say "B12 shots hurt", even though he knew I had been receiving them monthly for years. My next visit to that clinic (walk-in), I told the current doctor that he needed to use my other arm because I was still sensitive throughout my usual arm from my last injection and he was pretty upset to know what had happened and helped me treat the nerve pain. Mistakes happen, even for doctors, but it's too common that they don't listen and dismiss patients' concerns after. Thanks again for an educational video for both doctors and patients 🙂
Docs on Long Island don’t make mistakes. All done on purpose. Big money maker. Lost two family members.
👏 Agree! We need communications and health educators to be hired for every health office and hospital.
As a recently diagnosed autistic adult, I have come to realize how we often don’t question those seen as the authority because that is our understanding of how the social interaction should go.
Having a medically complex baby really taught me how to ask questions and advocate, but it took living in a hospital for months to learn how to do that. I often offer to be an advocate for friends and family now, because there is such vulnerability when you are the patient in a situation where you are not being truly seen and cared about as a person.
I have no problem advocating for myself. I am quite capable of articulating needs and concerns. My problem 🙄 is the moment they find out I suffer from mental illness they become condescending, patronizing and will tell me "it's my fault " or in other cases "it's cause I'm over weight ". At this time, I have found a good doctor who respects me and talks to me. The specialists on the other hand, grrrrrrrrrr.
You learned to be an advocate because of your baby (who I hope is doing well now), and I learned from advocating for my elderly parents. When people become seniors, many stop asking questions of their medical providers. I think it's mostly because they may be hard of hearing and not know it yet, or the doctor talks too quickly for them to understand, and they don't want to appear stupid, so they just agree to everything and have little idea what they're agreeing to. I, too, offer to advocate for other family members and my friends when I see they aren't getting the information they need from their doctors to make an informed decision.
Advocating is so important. If my mom didn't advocate for me and push Drs to get me medical tests I'd be dead right now
@@commonsensespiritualist7809 sounds to me like the doctor who respects you should have a nice little chat with those specialists!
@Eating Richly I totally get that, there was a doctor I should have stood up to and gone to the counter and demanded a change of providers after the way she had started treating me. I've had male doctors who treated me better during a pap than this woman did!
Ever since listening to/watching doctor death, I’ve been apprehensive at the thought of finding a new doctor. I feel like a lot of his patients tried to do their due diligence, but he had good reviews and won awards and had a good reputation with doctors who didn’t actually know him. Like how do you even know if a doctor is good if they can just manipulate the system? Your story reminds me of doctor death. I wouldn’t be surprised if those reviews were fake.
“Listening to dr death” is this some kind of euphemism? What does it mean
@@g.h.7661 It’s a podcast by Wondery about terrible cases of doctors harming patients. It starts off with the case of Dr. Duntsch, a Texas Surgeon who caused serious injury to 31 patients and killed two others before he was finally stopped.
I was thinking the same thing!
Wow......nice to hear this happens to anyone.....sorry for your troubles....good thing you know what is going on to know it wasn't right. Thank you for doing this to inform us to be vigilant
I had an interesting experieance. I had a knee injury, and my parents thought nothing on it, they thought it would go away, blah blah blah. I couldn't unfold my knee, i felt a lot of resistance, and also pain. Walked around with a bent knee for almost 4 moths! We were going from dosctor to doctor, and no one saw anything suspicios. We finaly went to an actualy well known doctor, it was a paid visit, and he immediately sent me to the hospital for an MRI scan. Found out, my meniscus was ripped. Had surgery 2 days after. After the surgery, the nurses thought i needed to walk, so they told me to walk as much as i'm comfortable with, so i walked a lot. When we finaly found a good phisical therapist, she told me, that I COULDN'T APPLY PRESSURE TO THE KNEE FOR ATLEAST 1 AND 1/2 WEEKS, whitch is what i had done a lot. Everything ended up fine, it soon will be a full year since the surgery, and i feel amazing!
dang, that's a pretty routine problem for multiple doctors to miss on.
@@lasergames1798 Yeah. We could also have acted faster, even if we went to our family medicine doctor (she is very good), we might have been done on the spot.
When you have a locked knee it’s usually a meniscus tear. The tear is hooked over something and it won’t allow for full extension
Also: a surgeon shouldn’t be the one prescribing exercises after a joint surgery unless they also do sport medicine. They really don’t know much about rehab.
@@Fiona2254 no, the surgeon didn't tell me anything, he just gave me the reccemdations on what not to do, and checked up on me. There was some confusion from nurses. Actual rehabilitation was done by an actual phisical therapist.
To add to this, if you’re weary of something a specialist is recommending, run it by your primary care physician.
Recently, I went to my OBGYN for pelvic pain. Nothing showed up on an ultrasound and it was recommended I get a diagnostic laparoscopy without any addition information or consultation with my OBGYN. I brought this up to my primary care physician who immediately made an appointment. He ordered a few tests to fill some diagnostic gaps and then gently, but frankly informed me that we were now looking for endometriosis. He gave me a ton of information and assured me that I did the right thing by checking in with him. I felt better just being informed.
I've had the complete opposite honestly. Where primary care physcians are the ones who don't properly communicate things or take things seriously but the specialists do.
@@persephonehades7547 that was my issue for years until I found the Dr I have now. He actually communicated and makes sure I'm ok
Plz plz plz check out Nancy’s nook for Endo. Diagnostic surgery without laprascopic excision wouldnt make sense but happens way too often. Please just educate yourself before making decisions as Endo is so poorly treated even by “experts”. best of luck!
Thank you for sharing. This is very important. Dr Mike is not only a medical doctor, but also someone fit and charimatic (and thus in this society percived to be as less of a "push around") and YET, he experienced this.
Just imagine a shier / less knowledgeable person in the same situation!
I am always so encouraged by your videos and how much you push for body autonomy. I hope you keep sharing videos like this!
As a chronic pain patient who was eventually diagnosed with fibromyalgia and a multitude of other issues, this is just normal tbh. I randomly get over-sensitivity issues, it does often feel like my whole skin is on fire, if I have a flare up or if I'm stressed it can get so bad that I can't even wear clothes without feeling like something is hitting fresh bruises or like someone is holding a lighter to my skin. Even the wind can make it feel like that. It is what it is, it's slowly getting better with treatment but it will likely never go away. The only doctor who has ever truly believed me on this is my current one. And she's a fibro expert.
Doctors that talk and think they know better is the vast majority of them in my experience. Many of them don't even believe my diagnosis because they don't believe in fibromyalgia as a disorder. Doctors tend to suck, sorry you had to realise it the same way we, chronically ill people, have to learn it
It's crazy how many Drs don't think certain disorders are even real.
Yeah I always wonder how people say "oh some doctors..." when honestly at least for me it has been every doctor Ive ever been to. Idk why but even in different countries I still never get a good, not even a decent doctor. My best doctor experiences are ones who did nothing but didnt insult me or made my problem worst. I dont where people find doctors that work, but they truly seem to avoid me.
I've had some good doctors but their expertise is too narrow for my systemic long covid issues. Mostly I've had bad doctors for that.
I feel this. I was listening to his experience and I was like “so most doctors?” 😳
Here. Well said, Emma. This is the behavior of the vast majority of doctors, and specifically toward women, and statistically, this behavior is worst toward women with autoimmune and rare diseases and pain. I'm afraid that you've simply had the average experience that women with chronic illness, rare & autoimmune disease, and pain have all of the time, DR Mike; we experience everything from bad behavior, to incompetence masked with ego, to malpractice every day.
I have a couple stories about doctors…. Years ago, I took my 1 year old daughter to a specialist in Omaha for her cystic fibrosis. I didn’t much care for his bedside manner, but when were talking about when she should come back (he wanted two months), I said we’d have to do it a little later because that’s when my baby was due. With a look of shock and disgust, he said “You’re pregnant?” Then he got up and went to his desk at the other end of the room we were in. I sat there for a minute, wondering what just happened. He finally looked up and told me I could leave. That was in 1981, and I never saw him again.
Two years ago, during gallbladder surgery, the surgeon noticed my liver was abnormal, and suggested I see a liver specialist. Being pandemic, I did a tela-health visit. First I got a resident - friendly, asked thorough questions. Then the big guy came in, and was very dismissive. With no preliminaries, he started off with “well, we’ll get you scheduled for a gastric bypass, and then we’ll….” I stopped him. Yes, I could stand to lose some weight, but where did he get the idea that I needed something that drastic? When he realized I wasn’t going to go along, he said “well, then go on a 1000 calorie a day diet, and come back in six months. And you’d better have lost the weight!” End of call. I never went back. I did go on the diet for four months. I lost some weight, and my labs all look great. He was a jerk.
how can you even type this long i feel like its impossible
I hope you're okay now!
Hey, glad your video came out, I broke my wrist yesterday :,)
You're a great RUclipsr, thank you for educating us all.
I completely understand where you're coming from. I had to change MD' & pain management Doc's more than once. They either didn't listen to my concerns, did no hands on exam, then proceeded to make diagnosis/treatment, dismissed that it was "all in my head" or did a procedure that actually made my spinal issues worse. You have to be your own advocate, folks. If it feels wrong or like you're just a number or a paycheck, it's time to find a Doc you are comfortable with & actually listens to your needs. Thanks Dr. Mike, for sharing your own experience 🙏❤️
Dr Mike:
Was the doctor aware that you are a doctor? Did you report your experience? It sounds that he may need his license revoked or at least re-examined before he does real damage to a patient.
Yeah I was waiting to hear if he’d been reported
Obviously the quack didn’t know, but probably suspected he knew more than him, once Dr. Mike started to question.
Hopefully Dr. Mike will start an undercover group to help expose all these quacks.
I was wondering the same thing.
Yeah when he said he knew he had to "reach out to some ppl" I thought he meant to report this guy!
DR Mike is PART of the PROBLEM if he didn’t report
Thank you for being so honest about your visit. I remember an urgent care doctor prescribing antibiotics for my son, who was complaining about a Choo Choo train in his ear, no fever, no other symptoms. I explained to her that he had tubes placed about a year earlier. She asked if I was a doctor or a nurse. Huh, neither, but I'm a mother who is not intimidated by your white coat. Took him to his pediatrician the next day. Sure enough, tube had fallen out and 1 was pressing on his ear drum, removed and my baby boy was all better.
I was asked the same question by a GP once and it's infuriating :/ I may not be a doctor but I live in my body 24/7 so if I report anything it's literally a first-hand info, don't need a diploma for that :/
I'm happy you seeked another opinion though 💕
Ohhh that makes me so angry that she said that! Like they demand the respect without proving they deserve the respect.
@@duzehalo Exactly!
If a mechanic said the same thing, I'd run from that place. No different than a doctor who thinks they're better than you and can quickly make some money and leave.
Man, I don't even know why you not being a medical professional was relevant anyway? Your son has an unexplained problem and you were giving info that was relevant to where the problem was. You don't have to be a medical professional to do that! RUclips doctors always tell us to speak up for ourselves but then doctors and nurses are really rude and dismissive so your only choice sometimes is to pay to see someone else.
Dr. Mike: "There's very little scientific evidence for acupuncture's efficacy but it's low risk so it's fine to use it as an option."
* proceeds to describe how an acupuncturist gave him nerve damage with zero irony *
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What truly sets doctor Mike apart, however, is his unwavering commitment to advocacy. He listens to his patients and their families, understands their needs, and champions their cause. He isn't afraid to stand up for what's right, even when it's difficult or unpopular. His dedication to his patients' wellbeing is genuine and also both inspiring and comforting. It have been lucky and have the pleasure to work with many great doctors like yourself. Please keep up the great work.
This is what my first neurologist visit was like. I went in at 20 years old for severe migraines with a history of repeated serious head injuries (riding horses). They came in, asked me if I'd ever had an MRI, then said well we aren't going to bother until an MRI is done, and left.... like literally 2 minutes. Then when the MRI came back normal, they said "oh well, nothing is wrong with you, it's all psychological"...... yeah, 4 years later, my symptoms have gotten worse and worse, so I went to a new neurologist, who suspects it's likely a very rare disorder called Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE), which is a fatal progressive neurological disorder caused by head injuries. It's seen in football players usually, and it DOESN'T show up on MRI. 🙃
..can they do anything at all, or is it so long and thanks for all the fish? :
I hope for your wellbeing. If this is an accurate diagnosis, I hope you find excellent care.
Yes it doesn't show up until they do an autopsy on a dead person and examine their brain
CTE very often does show up on an MRI, depending on the tissue affected and the severity of the damage.
Let me guess - you're a woman?
I'm just discovering this glorious man and it gives me some hope. I am so disenchanted with healthcare in general. My whole life it's been disappointing. 15 years of going to 6 different obgyns and my pain just kept being dismissed as normal, because of the shape of my pelvis (no joke), giving me obvious tips like using Motrin or changing positions. FINALLY I found Dr. Goldbaum outside of Boston. My first appointment she mapped out my nerve pain, diagnosed me with vaginismus and vulvodynia, and referred me to a pelvic floor physical therapist. Before her I had no idea they existed. Women, GO FIND YOURSELF A PELVIC FLOOR PT NOW. Sadly she moved practices and now I am back in a jokers court of doctors. I had 3 "periods" this year, one was 21 days, another was 29 days, and the last was 42 days long. It took so much hounding to get to see someone that would actually DO something about it. I also had to advocate like hell for myself just to be seen! Pure misery, but finally after jump starting my cycle with some hormones I am back on a "normal" schedule.
Not only OBGYN grief though, gastric health issues took years to figure out. Symptoms of anxiety were tested and treated like I was physically sick and it wasn't until years later that I figured out myself that was in fact the cause of those symptoms and started going to a psychiatrist. Now, for nearly 3 years I have had what feels and seems like permanent allergies. I've seen my PC, an ENT, and two allergists. No allergies, no signs of anything in my several sinus exams, and no cause has been found. No treatments have helped. I've literally not gone 5 hours without sneezing since April 2020. Long Covid I guess...?
I think it's really important that you address victim shaming in this video because it happens a lot. There are so many negative situations where people are later asked, "Why didn't you say anything? Why didn't you do anything?" A lot of people do not realize that it is impossible to know how they would react in a circumstance that didn't really happen to them. I think it's also important that you gave encouragement and inspiration for people who could find themselves in a stressful situation because it is hard to stand up for yourself at times. Thank you.
Thank you for the acknowledgment of for people with and without medical knowledge to not say anything in an uncomfortable medical situation when dealing with a doctor who is supposed to know more than the patient. It is so hard to speak up in the moment.
I laughed and shook my head in agreement with so many steps of your story.
I have dozens of wild and weird tales of my medical experiences as a patient; stuff you can't make up!
Thank you for sharing it all! I adore you very much.
~Messa
When I was a teenager with a constant migraine, I saw a neurologist who told me I wasn't dizzy because "the dizzy center isn't lighting up on the EEG." 🙄 When one of the medications they had me try was making half of my body go numb and giving me memory issues, I told them I didn't want to take it anymore because it was freaky and giving me panic attacks, and they said, "I think you should stay on it for at least 3 to 6 months. The symptoms ~might~ go away." Needless to say, I found a new neurologist.
If it was giving you memory issues, that should've been a red flag to them right there to stop that medication. Good stars.
So did you figure out what was causing the migraines?
@@lan92034 Unfortunately, no, migraines are very poorly understood and there isn't really a known cause. I am lucky to have a treatment plan that helps a lot, though!
I am in my early 20's and two years ago, I started having some chest pain and it was difficult to breathe most of the time. I saw what felt like 10 different doctors that all said it was probably my asthma (even though I've had asthma since I was 4 and know what an asthma attack feels like) so they gave me a new inhaler, which made it worse, and eventually gave me a different inhaler. After a month or so, the pain got a little better, it was still uncomfortable to lay down and breathing became a little easier. About a year later, I started having the same exact symptoms and I was always told by my doctors that I was "young and otherwise healthy", so they didn't do much. I eventually went to the ER twice for difficulty breathing, chest pain, and heart palpitations. The first time I went, the doctors took an x-ray and an EKG and came back two hours later to tell me the same thing, that I was "young and otherwise healthy", so they sent me home. The second time I went, I went to urgent care beforehand and the doctor told me to go to the ER immediately because it could be a pulmonary embolism. I didn't believe her, since I felt these symptoms before and I was told I was fine. I went anyway and got a CT scan and they found blood clots in both lungs and a lot of damage to the lining of them. I'm very thankful to all of the doctors that finally took me seriously and helped me get treated immediately.
Wow. I cant imagine what that must have been like. I'm glad you're ok now.
@@SaricaaX3 I appreciate it! That’s very kind of you!
Your story of misdiagnosed pulmonary emboli is not the first I've heard.
@@MNP208 That's really sad... I hope they eventually figured it out and those other people are okay now..
As soon as you said cash pay my red flags started flying. It's SO sad to hear of doctors misusing their "degrees" and not treating patients correctly. That's how people stop going to the doctor and getting the treatments they do need. I'm glad you listened to your gut!
Same thing happened to me when I went for my lower back pain to a pain clinic. They never examined me, never asked what happened, nothing. I told them I didn't want injections because they don't work and the very next thing out of his mouth was "Well we could schedule you for an injection if you'd like to try that." I was like dude...I JUST said I don't want that. The world of pain management in this day and age is terrifying. No exam, no history, no asking what treatments worked in the past...Just straight to wanting to stab you and get that procedure pay check.
I've had a few bad experiences with the medical industry, but one I remember the most is when I had my gall bladder removed.
I was 14 at the time and around Easter, I noticed these tight pains under my breasts, like a snake constricting around me. It happened during the nights mostly, but not every night. I went to my GP, they did nothing about it. One night, a couple months later, it was so bad I went to the hospital. There, they took some blood tests and did physical checks, but found nothing. They assumed it was menstrual pain and legit said I was wasting their time.
Months went on, still getting the pains and they were becoming more frequent and more painful. Eventually I went to a different doctor and he ordered blood tests, but he also ordered an ultra sound. Next day, he called me in and informed me I had quite large gall stones and my gall bladder was filled with sludge. There was no recovering it. Doctor put me on a waiting list, but because of how severe it was, if I got pain I was to go to the hospital straight away.
Few nights later, I had a serious pain and I was back in the hospital. They gave me a tablet to ease the pain, unfortunately it made it so much worse that I was screaming and shaking in pain. Then I was given morphine to ease that pain.
A day later, I was in surgery and my gall bladder was removed.
At the time, I was the second youngest in my country to have a gall bladder removed. I got told I could have died if my gall bladder was left untreated.
jesus christ, i am so sorry that happened to you, but it just goes to show how unfairly treated people can be in relation to medical help
Whoever told you it was menstrual pains needs a refresher in a basic anatomy class.
@@zammmerjammer exactly, since when do menstrual pains occur in the upper abdomen?
@@zammmerjammer those kinds of people (the irresponsible, lazy doctors) *always* say its period pains, thats just their way of saying "im too lazy to actually look into it and save you from potential death"
Oh man I'm so sorry you went through that! I actually had my gall bladder removed at 14 as well! Though luckily I had considerably less trouble getting it diagnosed, thanks to my mom having had the same problem in the past. She recognized the symptoms, and also gall stones CAN actually be hereditary and make some more susceptible.
I'm glad you went for another opinion and got it treated in time! The pain of gall stones is truly terrible.
My worst experience with a medical professional was when I was told not to take my prescription drugs that HIS BOSSES prescribed me. I asked him why, and he said "drugs are unnatural and full of harmful chemicals, made by men in lab coats. You should find natural alternatives like eating more fruit and veg." To this day, I am furious with myself that I didn't file a complaint about him.
Lol they have their prejudices and fetishes, don’t they? One we went to was fanatical about water, and wouldn’t believe I lived with a tall glass of water at my elbow.
I usually do not like doctors talking about medical stuff for some reason but you make it fun so thank very much for your content
I am very grateful that I discovered your page. Please keep up your great work making this content
Stories like this are exactly why I want to be a doctor. I had a similar experience. In early 2020 I had a health scare and we still don’t know what caused it. My family has been to a ton of doctors and wasted a lot of money. I’ve had doctors treat me without testing me, make iffy claims, and at one point I was taking 9 pills a day and had a super restricted diet and nothing was getting better. Looking back on it, I wish we would have sought out other help, but when you’re desperate to feel better, you’ll try anything. I still haven’t found a doctor who knows what’s wrong. I actually left an appointment last week in tears because it’s so frustrating. Thankfully I am doing a lot better now, but it’s still frustrating that I never found out what was causing so much distress in my body. I want to be a doctor so people don’t have to go through the same thing. We need more doctors like Doctor Mike.
i had appendicitis like a month ago and had a surgery and got it removed
used to feel wild pain in my stomach that would last for days where I couldn't even move, thought it was gas problems so I slept on it
until it happened to me the 3rd time where I made a visit to the doctor and sent me to the hospital for emergency surgery
don't sleep on it once u feel better man, I could've died if it exploded inside me
go do some tests, and scans for your body
I've had similar experiences with pediatric therapists (this was the 2000s) and I was experiencing a heavy decline in my grades, anxiety and early symptoms of depression. According to my mom, when she stated I was being bullied in school which could be the reason why these mental health symptoms where showing this evaluation person stated "Well, if she lost weight, she wouldn't be having these issues with bullying". I feel like this happens, not only in physical health spaces, but mental health spaces as well at times! And its important when to know when shit is shady, not within your interest, or their plans for you (medically) don't line up with yours.
Wtf you should report those professionals
Wish you well
I've experienced similar things as well. I was diagnosed with several mental health issues when I was 14, but I kept hearing that I was sad because I was being bullied about my weight and that if I lost weight, I'd be fine. A few years later, I was diagnosed with a depression related eating disorder.
Also, my dad was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and every time he went to get help, they always told him whatever he was dealing with was in his head and he was completely fine, that he was just making things up. A few years later, he was in and out of hospitals for a couple years for months at a time. Things like that is what makes me not willing to get help because I don't want to go through the things me or my dad went through.
My little sister was told that she has depression and anxiety because she doesn't eat enough. Some days she will eat everything in sight other days she doesn't want anything at all
When I was about 14, I went to a psychiatrist (who also did therapy) for the first time. She talked to me for 5 minutes, then talked to my mom for 30. Then she prescribed me 4 different medications. When I told her I felt unsure about it, she told me that if I didn’t take them, I would end up killing my family and then myself.
I was there for panic attacks. No psychotic symptoms whatsoever.
I took the prescriptions to shut her up, never picked up the medication, and never came back again.
That description of true nerve pain reminded me of an injury I had in middle school. I was doing something stupid and slammed my shins into a wooden bench in my school's locker room, and they were almost instantly a deep, dark purple from just above the ankle to just below my knees. I could barely walk for a few hours afterwards because my legs felt so weak. For the next several months, whenever anything even lightly grazed the skin there, it felt like someone was holding a flame to my skin, and it was excruciatingly painful. In hindsight, I probably should've had someone look at it beyond the school nurse, even though it ended up healing and being fine in the long run. I'm just amazed I didn't break a bone.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Dang scary.
This was how my first neurologist was and I finally got in with a new one this month after 2 years of his BS. The difference was like night and day. After one visit, she managed to lower my pain by 75% with treatment and her office staff is trying hard to fight for me to get the tests done I need. Sadly a lot of the "top doctors" are like tenured professors these days. I much prefer a younger doctor after encountering so many older ones who should have retired 10+ years ago.
Thankfully my neurologist has an excellent understanding of what I have, despite it being pretty rare.
I also have a GP who is excellent too. Mentioned the possibility of Lambert Eaton (thankfully not) which does have similar symptoms to what I'm suspected to have.
Unfortunately at this stage Myasthenia Gravis is chronic, and it could kill me (respiratory distress). But I feel the odds are pretty low, all the support and my basic survival instincts. Probably more likely to be killed in a car accident.
Plus I don't need to worry about going into debt over something I have no control over, something the immune system does seemingly randomly for no benefit. I imagine it could be close (or in) the hundreds of thousands at least.
happy you found a good one. i miss my neurologist so bad. she managed to put my lifelong chronic migraine into amazing remission, taking me from debilitating flares and having to take buckets of super expensive triptanes 6 days a week to a couple flares manageable with a couple nurofens every month or so. i've asked other neurologists about the drug she prescribed me for this (it was a new off label usage) and no one has even heard of it being used for migraines and it worked miracles for me. sadly she doesn't take patients anymore and i have other concerns i'm sure she would help me greatly with
A neurologist walked out on my husband and me! I kept getting concussions and didn’t know why it was happening. This doctor seemed amazing-he obviously had a big ego, but he chatted with us and described his brilliant career-and he promised he would find out why I kept hitting my head.
The first thing he did was order an EEG, which made perfect sense. But at my next appointment, he told me my EEG was normal, so everything was fine! My husband and I just looked at each other like, “huh?”
Then I told him I was still having serious problems and what about finding out the problem?
He just got angry and walked out on us. I was SO confused. Then he came back in, grabbed the bag he had left, and told us the way out. Then he left again.
My husband and I were completely taken aback-neither of us knew what had happened. He assured me I had said absolutely nothing that warranted his reaction.
The head of the neurology department called, apologized to me, and offered to see me. In the appointment, he admitted that they don’t have any concussion specialists and there is just a lot they don’t know about concussions.
A vestibular therapist was the one who finally figured it out. He found out my proprioception (the sense of where you are in space-kind of) was way off, and he basically invented exercises for me to do that finally solved my problem.
But it concerned me none of the neurologists knew anything about it or how to test for it-or even where to send me.
I had a similar experience in a LASIK place with great reviews that advertises everywhere too. No doctors tended to me, just techs. They said I was a great candidate, wanted to schedule me for surgery in just two days, and were already asking for upfront payment. I went for a 2nd opinion to an actual surgeon who performs LASIK in a hospital. She told me I was NOT a good candidate for that procedure. I went for a 3rd opinion by another surgeon who told me the same thing, and said he wouldn't even recommend PRK in my case. Be careful, people.
They were only in it for the money, likely.
If a doctor can be this badly misdiagnosed and not taken seriously by another doctor even, then what hope is there for the rest of us? Stay vigilant don't be afraid to question anyone about anything , no matter what their so-called Authority... I really love these videos because it's so validating and makes a person lose the fear to question these types of people. And challenge their egos, I always feel like I'm in a battle with someone's ego more than anything trying to get the help that I need ...
A doctor fixing a Doctor's body is quiet interesting to listen into. Thanks for the Story Doc ! 👍