Firestar Is Actually Alive - Sunny's Spiel | Warriors Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2023
- We’ve been fooled for so long. Over 10 years have gone by since The Last Hope’s release, and despite the many arguments over how Firestar died, or how silly his death was, no one has seen the reality: Firestar did not die at all. Don’t believe me? Let’s examine the evidence and break this case open once and for all!
And Happy April Fools Day, everyone!
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She started this as a April fools joke, yet accidently ended this with many fans questioning everything they've known
Welp I think it’s kinda true but he just prolly inhaled too much smoke
@Herb Spec yeah inhaling that amount of smoke wont kill you instantly like that if it only lasted 30 seconds
@Herb Spec Wait where did the heart attack come from then?
Yeah it does seem true to knowing that Firestar might not have died from things that they were able to picture...BUT. There is such thing as dying from exhaustion! (Just a short idea) although the thought of Firestar not dying is very real 😳
Hey my wcue oc is actually named sunnyfall
"He was so busy being a hero, he forgot to die!" I need to use this quote at least once in my life.
"He was so busy beeing a Hero,that he failed to die!" Thats how it goes
I need to use this in my Warriors books ;-;
I read this well it said it in the video
👍
Knowing the Erins...
I'd believe it.
Also, his cause of death could have been a sudden heart attack. Anticlimatic as all heck, but makes logical sense.
That, or Starclan was like "...eh. Firestar avoided all the things he threw at him, so we'll just kill him outright."
Plot twist: Tigerstar had a death note and wrote down Firestar’s name right before he died
@@vanilla4983 omg
i thought the same thing!
@@vanilla4983 XD
I feel like they just killed off Firestar so brambleclaw could be the leader 💀
Firestar’s dead, BUT GARFIELDSTAR LIVES ON BABY!!!
Or Garstar, since Garfield is a possible warrior name.
@@idiotgoddess2114 well it was Garfieldheart in the wiki but no one knows!
Update: Garfieldstar is no longer with us 😭😭😭
The real story of I’m sorry jon
Wafflestar!
w-
Why was that so convincing?
I know it’s an April fools joke but-
There’s so much evidence
agreed
I may not be that far into the books (I only have the three main series aka up to POT). I can already tell it's just what we call the Erin Hunter none-sense-making Continuit.
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@@TunaAbolisher-aka-Conrad damn im only about page 250 of rising storm
@@smudgethecat8315 damn you must've joined the fandom late like me then.
Bluestar DID give him the life of everlasting life 🤔
oh no your right!
😮
@OwlWing moonkitti i spoil series joke
Although it is supposed to be an April Fools video, the arguments here presented by Sunnyfall are actually very valid and convincing. I've always wondered how Firestar died, and I believed that he was hit by the “falling” tree, since it relatively makes more sense, until Sunnyfall points out that the tree was already “fallen”.
I think I can now start to tell myself that Firestar didn't die. Because I miss him. I miss him terribly. No matter how people think of him, he was a great leader with so many virtues, who persevered through all hardships and dire situations, and led his Clan until his very last breath. Just imagine, with all the chaos that is going on in ThunderClan right now, that familiar, flame-coloured pelt appears at the entrance, once more. The same reassuring voice echoes in the camp, once more:
“I am Firestar. I have come back.”
I would love that 😭😭
Firestar’s my fav character, and I’d do anything to see him lead ThunderClan again 😭😭he’s so much better than Bramblestar, especially rn 😢
He just comes back in like “Yo wassup guys! Sorry for being away for 4 series,but I’m back now” *smacks bramblestar* “Alr anyways soooo im your leader again >:)
@@v3leries Haaa hhaa so true
Hey it’s ok, I miss him as well and I’m also telling myself that he isn’t dead
"I always come back"
Sunnyfalls:*makes an April Fools video*
Erins:"WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!"
* several books later*
Firestar: so what did I miss?
Everyone that was with him when he die: we saw you die!
Firestar: but I got better
@@shadowstar37 imaooo
@@cloudedmoon7174 if we take it like that then firestar is pulling a commander Shepherd
😂
@@shadowstar37 honestly at this point that would be all that the books would have to say to justify it
Imagine in a new book firestar comes back
(Insert main cats name) eyes widened, an orange tabby had appeared in their camp. "Firestar! Y-you're alive...?" Squirrelstar mewed in a rather harsh voice. The clan gathered around. "Yes, I have lied to you." Firestar announced sorrowful. "But why... YOU DIED IN THE LAST HOPE MOUSEBRAIN." Squirrelstar called, getting on her hind legs, grabbing a pay phone. And calling starclan angrily, "Yes, I've found firestar... How long has he been missing?"
Squirrelstar causally breaking the fourth wall. As you do. To yell at her father and to use a twoleg invention that somehow connects to StarClan for them to come pick him up.
Haha yeah that's a book that is meant to be made by God 😂😂😂
I need moonkitti to make a video like this lol
I think Firestar died of a broken heart after losing his true love, Tigerstar- I mean Spottedleaf, once and for all :)
Tigerstar 😂😂
Best comment ever- I was wheezing lol
NOO TIGERSTARRRR
(I'm being scarastic that bitch can die for trying to kill ravenpaw or atleast talk about getting rid of him)
I am electing to ignore the fact that it's April Fools Day & say that my new headcanon is Firestar left to become a kittypet again. He saw that literal Hell exists & has a vendetta against him specifically, proceeded to have a mid-life crisis, & noped tf outta there.
leaving out the fact that Firestar promised to never become a kittypet again, and, also, upon learning that there is a cat version of Hell with a vendetta against him personally, he proceeded to BEAT THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF IT'S TOP OFFICIALS ONE BY ONE
I know this is an April fool's joke but this is some really valid information, you did a really good job providing so much evidence
The fact that you labeled Barley as Ravenpaw's husband :'D
Let's be real here he is
He isnt??? 😂😂 I THOUGHT THEY WERE- (jk i knew they weren't but there still gay.. NO ONE CAN PROVEN ME WRONK)
@@Onyx-flysWithWings the gay cats will be known and loved
@@shadowstar37 Yes, yes they will as a Omnisexual I love the fact that even in a series about cats fighting other cats for the good (Or bad) of the forest. they still manage to put LGBTQIA+ characters ❤
@@Onyx-flysWithWings we have 3 gay cats ( ravenpaw,barley and tallstar
Firestar's true cause of death was "because we said so."
He completed the Warrior Cats game as the main character, so he had to die to let someone else play.
wait so you’re like “this was an april fools joke” but you’re so right??? Maybe he just happened to have a little kitty heart attack at a glorious moment.
The answer was an April Fools joke but the logic to get there was entirely honest
his partial upbringing as a kittypet must have predisposed him to vascular problems, and finally caught up to him and the events prior and current to the battle were too much.
"Lost helping Ravenpaw and his husband Barley" 😂
When I read when he died I thought the tree fell on him and the second time I thought he also got struck by lightning as well.
Possibly Firestar died from exhaustion, and was only able to fight so flawlessly because of all the adrenaline?
I’m trying to make sense of this now too loo
Can you die from exhaustion?
its likely he went in a coma from being electrocuted and buried alive or proceeded to just straight up have a heart attack in a coma and he died either works but same outcome lmao
Maybe he died from the rain
I mean, his name is FIREstar
Then he should be dead when it rains when he wasn't a kitty pet or when a flood happened
True true
"Water destroys Fire"
@@MweziWildcraft thanks starclan for how to kill firestar
The rest of the cats: You were supposed to be dead!”
Firestar: “I got better?”
lmaooo
This was so convincing 😭
Lighting doesn't just electrocute one spot, it electrocutes the ground around it, so he still would've been shocked to death, THATS how Firestar died
DONT RUIN 5HIS FOR ME😢
He was right next to a lightning strike, he could’ve gotten electrocuted
Watch this video be foreshadowing that you’re not going to kill him in the rewrite/
thats what i was thinking
Or had heart attack from his body being surprised
Sunny. Sunny what about the lightning. Sunny what about the 50-100 ft radius of a lightning strike and ensuing ground current. Sunny what about the electricity of the lightning strike going through into the earth and the ground current frying his furry little body with 300 million volts of SunnyD. Sunny there are often not many visible wounds by a lightning strike to the point they check animals for sudden strokes to determine cause of death. Sunny an average cat couldn’t even suffer .01 amps of 110 volts without perishing.
Sunny what if they lit him up like a Christmas tree but they were running out of word count so they had to call it a day. Sunny.
they only ran out of word count because they wasted most of it
Well technically they threw aside lightning logic as a bunch of his clanmates were also in the clearing and probably would have been shocked too.
HOW DARE THE AUTHORS LIE TO US LIKE THIS /j
It’s a joke
@@TheCutestNoobOnRoblox Ik being sarcastic mb lol
I want to write this as an actual AU now. Firestar doesn't die, but StarClan decides to try out giving Bramble his lives >:)
That wouldn’t work, as nightpelt was unable to get his lives since brokenstar still had his last. Although I suppose we throw that aside as sunstar got 8 lives even though pinestar still had one life as a kittypet
@@valstolemyheart Retcons are honestly the most frustrating thing ever.
Yeah, I mean- if they decide that Brambleclaw is too much like his father, then StarClan can just drop a tree on him and send Firestar back!
@@wofandwarriors8327 Firestar is in stasis until he is needed most. Maybe in a couple hundred years he'll come back with a robotic body because he'll have actually past-tensed by that point!
I’m gonna blame almost getting swept up by a tornado for the reasoning my dumb ass forgot what today was I got way too invested into this video lol.
By the way 10:02 best evil laugh.
*Oh dang- looks like that makes two of us*
I agree she kind sounded like nightmare moon lol from MLP
``Nightheart looked to his paws, looking at the familiar clan camp. He took a deep breathe before taking steps into the sandy entrance, and looked back, his eyes shining with guilt but his expression kept blank. "Go on." A flame-colored tom, into the woods, dappled with the shadows of the leaves, nodded to his great-great-grandson. "And don't, never forget what i telled you, Nightheart." He smirked, with a muted purr in his fluffy throat.
"I'll never forget, Firestar." Nightheart meowed, reluctant. "I promise."
Firestar let out a mrrow of satisfaction, and dived back into the woods, his very known orange fur disappearing in the shadows.``
Why i did this? Well... there is a word, it is called "fun", know?
Being serious now. Even tough thats an April Fool's videos, all of this are pretty much valid points. Erins do have a flawed writting, and this, even tough it makes some books pretty bad (* COUGH* Squirrelflight's Hope * COUGH*), it at least let us dream and have hopes.
But having Firestar back isnt a good thing, at least, not now. He is like a god to Thunderclan, in a exaggerated way; Not to mention that it would just put Firestar back into the plot, again. Just let the dude die in peace, he already saved his clan and there is no need to save it again. Yes, he's the first protagonist, yes, without him there wouldnt be your beloved series, yes, but this doesnt mean he needs to be a kittygod. And this means, for me, that the books should have ended in OOTS, since now they're trying to find water in desert: Nothing to be explored anymore, and it it does have something that you can explore into, the Erins would find a way to do it dirty, knowing how the writing team is today.
Sorry for all of the Firefans, but Firestar needs to rest. Please.
🟥Clarification🟥
After prophecy ‘fire alone will save our clan’ there was prophecy, after ‘fire saves the clan’ fire will burn out! So when fire star “saved the clan” his prophecy was finished and Star clan had to take his last life away!
I haven’t actually read warriors but I know the entire story and most of the details despite that
I forgot about it being April fools
I genuinely thought in the new book he was confirmed to be alive and I was gonna RIOT
Read iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
I clicked on this video entirely forgetting what day it was ...despite having just realized what day it was minutes prior.
Part of me refuses to call it an April Fools joke and actually believes it.
man I'd love if all this were true. it'd make his "death" actually make sense
I want to believe that my Dorito colored kitty is alive and well. So, I can adopt him and give him the best life ever! (Also, I'ma bring back Sandstorm so they can live happily ever after)
Imagen this:
Thunderclan: *inaudible arguing*
Firestar: *Waltzes in through the gorse tunnel*
Thunderclan: *Sees him and gives visible confusion*
Firestar: Bramblestar what have you done to my clan?
Bramblestar: Wha? How are you alive!?
Firestar: *I G O T B E T T E R*
RIP that was very funny I now ded
*The clan gasped as a brightly orange pelted cat walked to the entrance.* "Firestar?! We thought you went to starclan!" *SquirrelStar yowled, leaning over the edge. Firestar chuckled, his green gaze like sunshine.* "I have always lived. I watched the clan through times. look who I also brought." *He turned, waving his tail for a bunch of cats entering the entrance. The clan held their breath* "Greystripe…ravenpaw..Bluestar.." *SquirrelStar mumbled, staring in surprise.* "We have returned, Let the clans thrive once again."
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WE NEED THIS BOOK IRL!!!!!!!!!!😂
“How did Firestar die?”
“You know, it was really unclear.”
Fire star:gets hit by a burning tree struck down by lightning smoke is all around him rain comes and clears it all up! one of his cats find him he gets up and says"Was that a fly?"
Yeah- let's not forget the fact that it took Gray Wing like- three years to die of smoke inhalation in DotC
1:10 his husband 🥹
IT’S OFFICIAL! YEEEEES! YEEEEES!
*Sigh* Happy April Fools Day Sunny. You got me there.
1:08 “His husband barley-“
Seems accurate
It’s been a long while since I’ve interacted with warriors at all but this sounds interesting
Quick question, is the new arc worth reading?
Yes, it brings great tension and a great old villain back. It provides amazing protagonists and battles!
Yes the new arc is definitely worth reading!
I think its a april fools joke😂
The Broken Code arc was amazing, the newest arc is also good. A Vision Of Shadows starts out great as well.
@@Wikkid124 ikkkkkk
Okay but... the fact that she sounded so passionate about this and left every fan of warrior cats questioning everything they've ever known about the lore is just... terrifying.
This was your first video that I watched . . . I'm glad I did.😄
Also, anyone else notice The Last Hope nearly came out on April 1st. Coincidence? No? Just me then. Okay.
This is such a random idea for an April fools video and I love it
Sunnyfall: *makes an April fools video.*
Fans: *questioning everything they ever knew.*
Erins: *questioning their existence.*
this is the only conspiracy I will accept DO BOT FALL FOR THA PROPOGANDUH
The fact that he died half the fandoms life ago is concerning
I still say Bloodloss.
FireStar may have lost much more blood earlier In his life. Tho wounds not fatal, just enough to bleed him. The tree was RIGHT next to him, so electricity could've entered his body.
Damn, i'm kinda scared of Sunnyfall insane laugh (started to get scared from 9:58 to 10:06).
WHAT??? APRIL FOOLS? I know i'm late, but there's so much evidence that i can't not believe Firestar isn't alive.
My only question now is…….what is Firestar doing with that last life 🤔? Maybe he’s retired and returned to the life of a kittypet 😂.
it took me a whole 10 minutes to catch on, thats just how it is when you use videos as background noise!
lovely video sunny, had some laughs!
This is the same series that killed the main antagonist from a single blow
I’m talking about TigerStar btw
that was a very vividly-described tear from top to bottom of his entire body. Scourge also killed Firestar with one hit, but that was to the head, more of an impact than a tear, so StarClan was able to barely heal the wound, even if it took a little extra time.
He died because of the tree after the battle with the dark forest, and then in appearance quest he was in the star clan when he told alderpaw about sky clan
Firestar was like "I'm tired I'm just gonna die now"
I spent like 8 minutes getting mad and confused because of how ridiculous this theory is until I remembered April fool's was yesterday 🤦 good job lmao
The Erin killed off firestar to continue the story as quickly as they can.
Firestars death sucks and they could've actually made his death due to blood loss or a heart attack that was clearly quoted in the books.
For example they couldve made tigerstar actually slash firestars throat.
Honestly the only option we have for his death was a heart attacks,a deadly seizure,a stroke or an aneurysm ( from the amount of stress he has been trough fighting tigerstar.)
The most likely options are the seizure or the heart attack.
1:09 LETS GO RAVENBARLEY MATERIAL
StarClan was just like “yeah you’re coming with us.” *(freaking) kills FireStar*
I didn't even realize this was posted on April 1st until the end, dayum was this video convincing
maybe it was a heart attack or an aneurysm burst?
he actually died from a fire when a tree limb next to him caught on fire from lightning(probably starclan), engulfing him in the smoke and flames
He used the smoke to cover up him quickly tossing an exact replica of his own dead body on the ground and making his getaway
five stages of grief…
1. denial
…
I know I'm very late but I know what Erin did there. As you all know, Firestar represents fire, so she made lightning strike the tree next to him, causing it to burst into flames but then soon after rain came to quench the fire, he was dead. And you know a way how fire dies. It gets quenched by water. And remember Starclans prophecy, "Water quenches fire".
OOoh hehe HAPPY APRIL FOOLS!
That is the most perfect evil villain laugh I've ever heard 10:02
Awesome Answers All of my Questions
Inhaling very little smoke can be dangerous, since it can kind of cause your lungs to collapse on themselves a little. But I don't think that he died to smoke
I always assumed Firestar either died of smoke inhalation from the burning trees; his combined exhaustion, shortness of breath from his adrenaline-rushed duel with Tigerstar, and his bone-weary grief over everyone that had died that day could very well have weakened him to the point where the smoke was too much and he suffocated, or his heart simply... gave out, and stopped.
My preferred headcanon, though, is that Firestar never "died," but had an event similar to the departure of the prophet Elijah in the Bible. The flames obscured him as he was called home to StarClan, and having completed all four of his destinies, was told by StarClan to finally rest. I will note here the bit in the prologue of Bramblestar's Storm where Firestar says "I shouldn't have had to leave my Clan," almost bitterly, as if he hadn't had any choice, or thought that StarClan killing him had been unfair to his Clan. I also seem to remember that whoever he's talking to(Bluestar? I can't remember), reassuring him that it was best for him to be in StarClan, because Bramblestar needed to take up the mantle at such a momentous moment to ensure that the Clans could change; new leadership is a powerful force to drive it.
So yeah I think Firestar was basically honored with an ascension, and he wasn't killed. Tigerstar had no victory over him, and was not the cause of his death. Firestar didn't lose, he just left when his only remaining opponent had been removed from the field.
Firestar was the player character in the Warrior Cats video game, and once he completed the final mission it kicked him out and only let him spectate.
I personally think that it may have been the lightning that got him due to his close proximity to the tree. It wouldn't leave any scorch marks or any wounds at all and he would just simply drop dead instantly.
"stage 3- denial"
them: I like that stage
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anyways happy April fools everyone lol
He died the same way bluestar did, being done with thunderclan’s shit
OMG I never noticed that! But now that I think about it, it makes so much sense!😮
What if, Nightheart runs into Firestar in Shadow. Or the tom mentioned in the blurb for Thunder is Firestar? Wooooooooooo 😅
Well I mean in TBC he slightly possesses rootspring which is kinda proof he’s dead
its actually confusing that you can die again in starclan 😅 (3:11)
It’s because Starclan is a place of calm and rest before you truly pass on after a long time, and your soul fades away. I’m pretty sure it’s the same for dark forest cats. From the knowledge of knowing they can die from old age and fade away, their soul can be destroyed and the finally pass on to final, eternal rest.
Lol imagine in a future arc they actually make this come true
He also died getting to skyclan in a flood. I have read skyclan's destiny.
Just try to prove me wrong!
"He was so busy being a hera that he FAILED TO DIE!" -Sunnyfall (Ps you actaully convinced me firestar is alive for a minute)
You forgot one thing...
Pure will
My google account has the same pfp as you but a different colour lol
Maybe Firestar was just tired of everything going on is he just manually ascended to starclan.
9:58 is the funniest sentence I’ve heard in this video
This actually makes sense!
Starclan regicide for dramatic effect.
Starclan killed him for exactly the reason stated. If they let him live he'd die of something unbefitting, so they had to take his last life prematurely.
THE LAUGH AT THE END GOT ME DEAD INSIDE THAT WAS EVIL 🥲
The lightning is hotter than the SUN when it strikes, and Firestar could have been struck by it, or a tendril of the lighting, or it was too much for his elderly and damaged body to handle sooo
I don’t care it was an April fools joke, that was really well done and a perfectly good theory. A WARRIOR THEORY.
That was getting my hopes up 😢
“Ravenpaw and his husband Barley” lol
He was most likely attacked while the smoke was pouring over him. that's most likely how he got his fatal wounds. I think that a dark forest cat most likely stayed in hiding waiting for that to happen. the whole tree falling over could have been on purpose
Somehow I managed to forget what day it was for 3 minutes 😭
Another fun thing to note is scourage never killed tiger star nine times if you look back into the book it was said by running nose that he was Denied guardianship and his nine lives he was killed once and he just claimed he forced running nose to agree with him to keep his life.
HELP I FORGOT WHEN THEY POSTED THIS WAS ON APRIL FOOLS-
You sound so sassy and i love it 😭👍
Oddly this would explain why he’s was in rootsprings body during the broken codes last book
GREAT ANALYSIS A+ 👏
I don’t understand why people don’t understand the fact the author may have forgotten to add details
Maybe the sound of thunder ruptured his organs vary dark theory but still think about it
I LOVE THIS PART! 9:56
Don’t comment or like
I know im late BUT THAT WAS SO CONVINCING