As someone who specializes in dock repair I than you for staggering recessing the 2x6 on the inside creating a shelf for water to get trapped especially as it starts to work its way inbetween. Serious undetected deterioration until the deck boards start to give. This section always needs repair and I just eliminate and mount deck boards that go the full width on top of the outer band when I get called out to fix it.
HWwelds All of the old docks that we removed lumber and Piling‘s along with Seawalls is brought back to the reclaimed yard and we process that for sale. Boards up to 6 foot are only a dollar boards over 6 foot are four dollars keeps it simple and keeps the material moving and out of the landfill. Pilings up to 12 foot are a dollar per foot pilings over 12 foot are two dollars per foot.
Dale, Just wondering if you ever X brace the pilings ? Is it not necessary, money, get in the way ? It could be done with stainless cables with the loops on the ends that are pre-made because you already would know the lengths needed. Thanks and great video.
august Yes this dock did get 2 x 6 rough cut diagonal braces on every other set we installed yesterday. With 4ea 6 inch stainless steel lag bolts. These poles are installed 10 feet in the ground so it really doesn’t need it but I do like to install them to protect against hurricane debris hitting the dock. I have also used type 3/16 5/8 threaded rod in the past.
Hello, you seem very knowledgeable based on the information on your page. A friend of my is starting a dock company and I was wondering if you could help a fellow industry friend out. I am looking for an employee safety training packet specific to dock and deck building, working off a barge, around water, around a crane, proper lifting techniques etc. Any idea where someone could find something like that? Or would you be willing to share what your company uses as reference? Want to ensure all employees are properly trained on saftey procedures. Thank you!
Thank you so much for watching you can typically get a safety protocol from the payroll company that you use. We pretty much developed our own this pretty much just standard for my company. with years of experience in knowing what to look for and watch out for.
Dale, How are your center stringers supported / connected to the cross ties? I assume there are two stringers down the center of the walkway to help support the flow through decking?
Your videos are a great learning source. On your custom docks, you use a two stringers on the outside. A 2X8 and a 2X6. It looks like if your pilings where spaced at 10', you would use 20' stringers staggering the 2X8 and 2X6 so that you always have a solid connection to the piling, either from the 2X8 or 2X6. I assume you are also screwing the 2X6 and 2X8 together at certain intervals as well. Can you explain how your team secures the secures the 2X8 and 2X6 together? Do you have a video that show any of the stainless steel hurricane ties that are used on the stringers? Are they the twisted strap? Thanks in advance for your reply.
Paul Gwizdala we do screw the 2x6 and 2x8 staggered up and down on about a 16 inch center. I don’t use any more steel hurricane clips or twist straps we use hurricane blocks they are explained in a few of my earlier videos. I have found these hold a lot better than the steel straps do.
@@DaleWHickman I see, the 2X8 and 2X6 are staggered. providing extra strength for the bolted connection to the piling. Are the outside stringers staggered from each other as well? Meaning, the 2X8 on the left side is staggered from the 2X8 on the right side, or, do they match each other?
Another question I have is that the inside stringers must only be 2X6 if you have a 2X8 stacked with a 2X6 then place the decking on the 2X6. Is that correct?@@DaleWHickman
Paul Gwizdala Yes be aware the 2 x 6 and 2 x 8 sitting on the diagonal crosstie doesn’t get the tube or six up high enough for the inch and a half decking you have to put another shim or block underneath of it to support it I do that with my hurricane blocking.
Great video Dale! A few questions, is it better to use 2 boards screwed together for your stringers? Also, what do you use to secure your joists boards to the stringers to keep the dock from being pushed up during a storm? Last, why do you cut a 45-degree notch on your stringer boards? Thanks in advance!
Tom Cothron hey Tom thanks for your question we have several styles of docks from our average to our custom. The double stringer outside system you’re asking about is our custom style. I’ve noticed during hurricanes that the stringers tend to get busted up with trash and boats hitting in between the pilings. So by doubling up the stringers and recess and the decking behind the outside stringer makes it a lot stronger gives it a better survivability rate. We have two methods of attaching stringers that are not bolted to pilings. We use stainless steel hurricane clips and what I call a hurricane block which you can see in this video. That is a 2 x 6 or 2 x 8 Block screwed to the cap and the cross ties then the stringer.
I'm down here in Orlando and I want to start a business like yours but I only worked for a short time with docks and I don't have enough experience, is there a possibility that you advise me?
Sure Jhon I’ve got a lot of other people that I’m talking to right now so it might take some time to get back with you. You can email me at Dalesmarine@gmail.com. Thank you so much for watching my channel
Hey Michael thanks for watching my channel and your question, I am a southern boy pretty much grew up here so I would not be able to give you accurate answers for the freezing and thawing I have never been in that situation or had to work in it. Maybe somebody else reading this from up north can give an accurate answer. 👍
All the number that we use is a ground burial treatment so we don’t have any problem with rot. One issue when you build decks that does not have proper ventilation or spacing between the deck boards that can cause ground rot. Thanks for watching my channel 👍
Hi Dale thanks for uploading the video. Great work! Looks awesome. I’m wondering how you built the pylons? I’m trying to repair a floating saltwater pier and I’m considering placing pylons to brace it because the wood is deteriorating and I think simply adding joints or reinforcing the platform will be a temporary fix.
Sorry I guess I overlooked this question I hope you’ve got this repaired or figured out a solution. If you got something it’s really close to the water I would definitely recommend using 2.5 Salt water treated lumber to prevent rot. Don’t think I quite understand the question about how I build the pylons?
@@GYMGUYFE thanks for watching the channels I’ve been using cabits from from Lowe’s. It seems that I get at least three years out of the product. I’ve got sunlit walnut on my house. It looks really good, but it does take maintenance after three years.
@@DaleWHickman Was just wondering if removing them would there be enough difference in damage to framing to justify doing that. I have all the tools/storage but I don't know of anybody that's done that to say it's worth it.
@@DaleWHickman That's good to know. Appreciate your help/knowlege. I'll damn sure do that next time we're in the path. Last thing and I swear I'll stop asking questions but do you know of a way to deburr (without scarring piling too bad) and patch screw holes on those PVC-vinyl pilings (interior support looks like Israel star)? I was thinking about trying a Dremel with the small drum sander head that wouldn't leave a big scarr? Do you know of a good way to handle those?
I normally have one place where I can buy pretty much directly from the treatment plant but as you know poles have gotten scarce so I pretty much get them wherever I can pull from these days
Thanks for watching my channel and your comment. We offer several styles of construction at different price points to help work with the customers budget.
As someone who specializes in dock repair I than you for staggering recessing the 2x6 on the inside creating a shelf for water to get trapped especially as it starts to work its way inbetween. Serious undetected deterioration until the deck boards start to give. This section always needs repair and I just eliminate and mount deck boards that go the full width on top of the outer band when I get called out to fix it.
Good job 👍
Looking good. Good info on reclaimed wood.
HWwelds All of the old docks that we removed lumber and Piling‘s along with Seawalls is brought back to the reclaimed yard and we process that for sale. Boards up to 6 foot are only a dollar boards over 6 foot are four dollars keeps it simple and keeps the material moving and out of the landfill. Pilings up to 12 foot are a dollar per foot pilings over 12 foot are two dollars per foot.
facebook.com/Hickmansreclaimeddockwoodforsale/
Dale, Just wondering if you ever X brace the pilings ? Is it not necessary, money, get in the way ? It could be done with stainless cables with the loops on the ends that are pre-made because you already would know the lengths needed. Thanks and great video.
august Yes this dock did get 2 x 6 rough cut diagonal braces on every other set we installed yesterday. With 4ea 6 inch stainless steel lag bolts. These poles are installed 10 feet in the ground so it really doesn’t need it but I do like to install them to protect against hurricane debris hitting the dock. I have also used type 3/16 5/8 threaded rod in the past.
Hello, you seem very knowledgeable based on the information on your page. A friend of my is starting a dock company and I was wondering if you could help a fellow industry friend out. I am looking for an employee safety training packet specific to dock and deck building, working off a barge, around water, around a crane, proper lifting techniques etc. Any idea where someone could find something like that? Or would you be willing to share what your company uses as reference? Want to ensure all employees are properly trained on saftey procedures. Thank you!
Thank you so much for watching you can typically get a safety protocol from the payroll company that you use. We pretty much developed our own this pretty much just standard for my company. with years of experience in knowing what to look for and watch out for.
super cool ya'll do the reclaimed material
Yes my wife does and does a great job at it only open on Saturdays and we are busy the entire time
Dale, How are your center stringers supported / connected to the cross ties? I assume there are two stringers down the center of the walkway to help support the flow through decking?
Good to know about the reclaim center
Thanks for watching yes it has become a real success and we’re keeping all of the stuff out of the landfills ♻️
Your videos are a great learning source. On your custom docks, you use a two stringers on the outside. A 2X8 and a 2X6. It looks like if your pilings where spaced at 10', you would use 20' stringers staggering the 2X8 and 2X6 so that you always have a solid connection to the piling, either from the 2X8 or 2X6. I assume you are also screwing the 2X6 and 2X8 together at certain intervals as well. Can you explain how your team secures the secures the 2X8 and 2X6 together? Do you have a video that show any of the stainless steel hurricane ties that are used on the stringers? Are they the twisted strap? Thanks in advance for your reply.
Paul Gwizdala yes that is correct and I stagger the 20 footers. Thank you very much for the compliment! We enjoy our work!
Paul Gwizdala we do screw the 2x6 and 2x8 staggered up and down on about a 16 inch center. I don’t use any more steel hurricane clips or twist straps we use hurricane blocks they are explained in a few of my earlier videos. I have found these hold a lot better than the steel straps do.
@@DaleWHickman I see, the 2X8 and 2X6 are staggered. providing extra strength for the bolted connection to the piling. Are the outside stringers staggered from each other as well? Meaning, the 2X8 on the left side is staggered from the 2X8 on the right side, or, do they match each other?
Another question I have is that the inside stringers must only be 2X6 if you have a 2X8 stacked with a 2X6 then place the decking on the 2X6. Is that correct?@@DaleWHickman
Paul Gwizdala Yes be aware the 2 x 6 and 2 x 8 sitting on the diagonal crosstie doesn’t get the tube or six up high enough for the inch and a half decking you have to put another shim or block underneath of it to support it I do that with my hurricane blocking.
I need to know what plate compactor attachment that is so I can get a barge with a machine to start taking care of out big projects
Thanks for watching my channel. Which area are you going to be working in? Really don’t like to get my competition all my answers lol
Great video Dale! A few questions, is it better to use 2 boards screwed together for your stringers? Also, what do you use to secure your joists boards to the stringers to keep the dock from being pushed up during a storm? Last, why do you cut a 45-degree notch on your stringer boards? Thanks in advance!
Tom Cothron hey Tom thanks for your question we have several styles of docks from our average to our custom. The double stringer outside system you’re asking about is our custom style. I’ve noticed during hurricanes that the stringers tend to get busted up with trash and boats hitting in between the pilings. So by doubling up the stringers and recess and the decking behind the outside stringer makes it a lot stronger gives it a better survivability rate. We have two methods of attaching stringers that are not bolted to pilings. We use stainless steel hurricane clips and what I call a hurricane block which you can see in this video. That is a 2 x 6 or 2 x 8 Block screwed to the cap and the cross ties then the stringer.
I'm down here in Orlando and I want to start a business like yours but I only worked for a short time with docks and I don't have enough experience, is there a possibility that you advise me?
Sure Jhon I’ve got a lot of other people that I’m talking to right now so it might take some time to get back with you. You can email me at Dalesmarine@gmail.com.
Thank you so much for watching my channel
How is it for freezing and thawwing for northern temperatures here in canada do the poles stay in place
Hey Michael thanks for watching my channel and your question, I am a southern boy pretty much grew up here so I would not be able to give you accurate answers for the freezing and thawing I have never been in that situation or had to work in it. Maybe somebody else reading this from up north can give an accurate answer. 👍
2 boards touching can cause rot , can you put a 1/4 or 1/2 space between them next time?????
All the number that we use is a ground burial treatment so we don’t have any problem with rot. One issue when you build decks that does not have proper ventilation or spacing between the deck boards that can cause ground rot. Thanks for watching my channel 👍
Hi Dale thanks for uploading the video. Great work! Looks awesome. I’m wondering how you built the pylons? I’m trying to repair a floating saltwater pier and I’m considering placing pylons to brace it because the wood is deteriorating and I think simply adding joints or reinforcing the platform will be a temporary fix.
Sorry I guess I overlooked this question I hope you’ve got this repaired or figured out a solution.
If you got something it’s really close to the water I would definitely recommend using 2.5 Salt water treated lumber to prevent rot.
Don’t think I quite understand the question about how I build the pylons?
@@DaleWHickmanwhat stain or sealer do you recommend for the dock in Florida on the ICW?
@@GYMGUYFE thanks for watching the channels I’ve been using cabits from from Lowe’s. It seems that I get at least three years out of the product. I’ve got sunlit walnut on my house. It looks really good, but it does take maintenance after three years.
What treatment is the material you use that is above water?
Thanks for your comment we are using ground burial treatment for the extra protection. Thanks for watching.
can the piling be concrete instead of wood posts?
It sure can just takes a different set of tools and equipment a lot more heavier to deal with
Why they using on screws
If you remove your top decking boards or panels and just leave joists, girders where they are will a pier take much damage?
Yes that will relieve some of the uplift pressure but it is a lot of work to do.
Then you have to store the material out of the storm surge also
@@DaleWHickman Was just wondering if removing them would there be enough difference in damage to framing to justify doing that. I have all the tools/storage but I don't know of anybody that's done that to say it's worth it.
@@morokeiboethia6749 yes it is we’ve done that for quite a few customers
We wouldn’t remove like every other deck board. Good luck 👍
@@DaleWHickman That's good to know. Appreciate your help/knowlege. I'll damn sure do that next time we're in the path. Last thing and I swear I'll stop asking questions but do you know of a way to deburr (without scarring piling too bad) and patch screw holes on those PVC-vinyl pilings (interior support looks like Israel star)? I was thinking about trying a Dremel with the small drum sander head that wouldn't leave a big scarr? Do you know of a good way to handle those?
Where do you get your pilings?
I normally have one place where I can buy pretty much directly from the treatment plant but as you know poles have gotten scarce so I pretty much get them wherever I can pull from these days
1st,2x8 on inside (bolted) maybe
(2) bolts should have been there.on out side
Bolt goes thru 2 adjoining 2x8's dead center.
What😮
Thanks for watching my channel and your comment. We offer several styles of construction at different price points to help work with the customers budget.
How much does it cost for a marina to build ?
Thanks for your question really really don’t like discussing pricing online for my local competitors to see 👍
What did it cost for your dock in total?
Thanks for watching my channel. I don’t really like to discuss cost on the Internet as my competition would be watching my page also 👍