As an old submariner from the 70s, I can truly appreciate the scenes of this great movie. Cat and mouse games (of a different kind) are still being played out today. Stepped aboard my first sub as a 17 year old in 1975. Most of my submates are on Eternal Patrol now, I think of them often.
As an older submariner.. SS-337 and SS-581 I was a sonar tech... The odds of a surface ship sinking a submerged submarine are actually astronomical. Just sayin'... Been there...
My Father was a machinist mate aboard an Ammunition ship in the Pacific during the Second World War. The thought of Japanese subs lurking in the sea below was the toughest part he said. The Kamikaze they could at least see and his ship earned 3 Battle Stars. He served from 1942-1945.
I'm so glad that I got to hear first hand my father in law's WWII stories. I never asked him just waited for him to talk and boy when he did the hair on the back of my neck stand at attention. He joined the Navy on 12/8/41 at 16. By early 1942 he was a torpedo man in the destroyer escort fleet doing convoy duty in the North Atlantic. Made 37 trips through the Panama Canal seeing Naval combat in both the Atlantic & Pacific theaters. We miss you Brownie! Thanks to all now serving, those who have, and those who will in the future. FLY NAVY!!!
Being on the flying bridge of a 2100 ton Fletcher class destroyer in heavy seas and at speed is something I will never forget. The scenes of the ship maneuvering are spot on. Well done.
Indeed! Run Silent, Run Deep (movies based on Adm. Edward L. Beach, a WWII submariner), also excellent. One of my favorites is Hunt for Red October. The behavior and dialog of the US sub's personnel was also virtually spot on right down to the Capt. exclaiming "Make a hole!" when descending a ladder (stairs to all you civilians).
Absolute 102...just wish they had a full blown, hog out Flak battle...with a 3.7 & the 2 twin 20's. Saw it when it premiered on a swelteringly hot day...and the flipping air conditioning went down in the cinema. We were literally sweating just as much as the boat's crew....and right when they surfaced and opened the coning tower hatch....the A/C came back on.💨
My Grandfather was a Liberty Ship (Chatham) Captain and he was torpedoed in August of 1942 in the Belle Isle Straight. All but 14 hands survived (548 Survivors), including my Grandfather. The sub (U-517) was later sunk.
Anyone who served on the "Cans" will appreciate this movie. I did, and I do. I particularly appreciated the fact that the Captain (Hanks) carried out his duties to protect the convoy faithfully, but took no joy in the deaths of the German sailors on the U-Boats. They would have killed mercilessly, and did, but that was not a reason to rejoice in their death.Whatever the feelings, he did his duty to serve and protect ("But at what cost") and that is what Hanks demonstrated in this movie - I salute him and thank him for a truly great movie on life in combat on a destroyer assigned convoy screen duties. - "hand salute!", too!.
Dear Mr. Ford, Thank you for keeping the Germans away. Thank you for your bravery. I do not like Tom Hanks. I am conflicted about watching his movie. He seems on the one hand to respect the soldiers who fought for America but eschews America. America, as all countries is a work in progress. I sincerely wish Mr Hanks would use language that reflects the same. Sincerely, Brent O’Conner
Serving on WW2 destroyers was hard on their crew because these ships were so cramp and row severely especially in rough sea. There were no air condition and no heater. The heads (toilets) were always malfunctioning and backing up. It is nothing short of incredible and a tribute to the men serving aboard these ships that they could carry out their missions and actually defeat the U-boats.
@@benjimenfranklin7650 What the Battle of the Atlantic never happened? Ok buddy, in a technical sense this particular engagement might not have happened, but the point, like Das Boot, is to try and faithfully reproduce what combat in that particular theatre and time period looked like. The film Master and Commander also takes plenty of liberties when it comes to the location and timeline of the events its based on but no one argues that its depiction of naval warfare of the time isn't one of the best ever put to film.
Any salty crewman would have anticipated the Captain's orders beforehand and done it without hesitation . They've done this drill dozens of times under their last Skipper . Experienced crews know what to to do . Orders from the CO do nothing but allow them to act upon their training .
The Japanese Imperial Navy couldn't believe their eyes ! Having successfully lured admiral Halsey into pursuing IJN plane-less carriers, the Japanese battleships thought they had The Leyte bridgehead set for slaughter (making up for their missed opportunity at Guadalcanal after their Savo victory) But those insolent little tin cans played the spoilsports with their tiny torpedoes and puny popguns ! In 1944, the IJN carriers were depleted of planes and even more of pilots, and had begun to resort to kamikazes. But they still had their battleships & they turned them into their mastercards above the carriers. But Halsey was obsessed with the carriers (although a US sub had crippled 2 IJN carriers before the battle) and underestimated the IJN battleships. The IJN came to a hairbreadth of victory were it not for those tin cans and their escort carriers.
@@Charlesputnam-bn9zy, Halsey was just another MacArthur, a glory seeking brass ass. In the Vietnam conflict they had one called Westmoreland, another glory seeking brass ass. Every war or conflict has at least one.
Charles putnam1982 Admiral Kurita made the mistake of giving the “General Attack” order after mistaking Taffy 3 for Halsey’s 3rd Fleet carrier group. Poor communication and recon also resulted in believing Ozawa’s decoy fleet didn’t lure Halsey away. A lot of important battles could’ve been very different if the Japanese Admirals had made a few decisions. -Battle off Samar, Admiral Takeo Kurita could’ve annihilated Taffy 3 if he had pressed the attack and kept his ships in formation. -Battle of Midway, Vice Admiral Chuichi Nagumo should’ve prioritized the American carriers first. His indecision costed him. -Battle of Savo Island, Vice Admiral Gunichi Mikawa should’ve proceeded to bombard the Marines and their supplies on Guadalcanal. He also became famous for retreating when he had the chance to strike a decisive blow. Even Yamamoto made mistakes. He should’ve had a more carrier-minded Admiral in charge of the Carriers at Midway like Jisaburo Ozawa instead of Nagumo. Also the Aleutian Invasion was completely useless. Having the Ryujo, Jun’yo, with the Hosho and Zuiho carrying only Fighters to protect the Fleet Carriers of the 1st Carrier Division could’ve really helped in their defense. He trusted Nagumo too much. Probably should’ve listened to Rear Admiral Tamon Yamaguchi more. Just having Kurita’s Cruiser Division and Vice Admiral Shiro Takasu’s 2nd Battleship Division from the Aleutian Fleet move ahead of the main fleet to bombard Midway would’ve drawn out Nimitz’s carriers easier. While Nimitz sends his bombers to deal with the bombardment fleet, Nagumo’s bombers are at the ready to attack his carriers once spotted. Should’ve, could’ve, would’ve, didn’t. One has to wonder what would’ve happened if the Japanese leadership hadn’t fallen into the control of the Army.
I was friends with and interviewed over a dozen U-Boat commanders. I watched Das Boot with Otto Kretschmer. I think these men would approve of this film, with the exception of the close range surface attack. That would only occur if a boat was damaged in the pressure hull, but I like all the scenes. First rate in my opinion as a historian.
I’m not a historian, however I feel it was a bit of a stretch for u boat captains to mock warships over a radio, and jeopardize their location. Also, u boats targeting a warship just seemed wasteful. Their torpedos are limited, and worth way more in attacking big cargo ships, than agile warships with equipment. Overall, I think the writing besides that was great, especially the details during the engagements.
Tom Hanks really is a versatile actor, and really great in the WW 2 genre of war films. From Saving Private Ryan, almost 22 years ago, to executive producing Band of Brothers, and now Greyhound. He always gives an amazing effort!
When I was a kid in the early 60's I lived in San Diego and got to crawl around a diesel-electric submarine. That one encounter amazed me and turned me into a life long appreciator of subs. The phrase "tight-quarters " always comes to mind.
I took a tour of the one in Mobile....I was amazed at how much exposed plumbing, valves, conduit were ALL over the sub. With everything on and running and buzzing ....noise....heat.... NOT where I would want to fight a battle.
I hated doing timed geometry problems at school. Imagine having to do those calculations knowing that your life and the lives of your entire crew depend on you remembering Pythagoris's theorem and correctly calculating the length of the hypotenuse.
Have you ever played any submarine sim from WW2? How many times there I prayed for the right triangle ... that is piece of cake. My guess they had tables and nomograms to help them. And lot of training so it became their second nature. Still - it had to be tough
Not really that complex. Most of the maths is done by the TDC. You need to identify the ship to find its length, then count the seconds it takes from bow to stern, divide the length by the seconds gives you m/s, times it by 2 to get knots. Distance was calculated in different ways but essentially involved the mast height of the ship, some did it nearly automatically while some used a more manual chart comparing mast height to centiradians in the scope. Then angle to bow is calculate either by eye or by plotting the ships heading and position compared to your position.
There are War Movies and then there is "GREYHOUND" that stands head and shoulders above the lot. Fantastic cinematography, Acting Visual effects and suspense - Best war movie ever!!
For those who are interested can i recommend the black and white film "the cruel sea" from the novel by Nicolas Montserrat Its the story of a Royal Navy flower class Corvette from 1939 through the war till 1945, the Atlantic , Malta and arctic convoys A reservist crew and the daily battle with the sea as well as the enemy. all ordinary guys doing their duty but true heroes
Das Boot was the best. This movie was garbage. The point of a uboat is to stay down and fire from as far away as they can. This movie was for people who know nothing about sea warfare. A Uboat trying to ram a destroyer
Wolfgang Pederson's "Das Boot" is still the classic "edge of your seat" WWII naval warfare movie for which all others must be judged... and Greyhound comes pretty close. The technology and cinematography used for Das Boot was decades behind the digital wizardry used for many of the action sequences in Greyhound, which made Das Boot really stand out as an 80's action film. Also, Tom Hanks as the weary but always alert Captain comes off well but pales compared to the withered, battle hardened, war torn face of Jürgen Prochnow wasting away throughout Pedersons' film. Greyhound is good but not the best...
The movie has a submarine captain taunting the American escorts on radio to make clear who the baddies are... So much tryhard revisionism... and then these ridiculous steampunk paintjobs on the subs which have nothing to do with the originals... subs surfacing to fight destroyers in close combat... so much Hollywood bullshit.
@@darkawakening01 UBoats did have patterns painted on them. Technically they weren't supposed to but it helped morale so the fleet ignored it. An example is U-552 with a pair of large devils on the conning tower. U25 had a huge shark jaw painted on. The sub fight on the surface was explained in the movie, "Dicky forced him up" after the depth charges and the lookout called out "She's damaged sir, can't submerge".
@@josephramponi4431 Please compare the originally used patterns to the over-the-top ones in the movie. The batches displayed are just silly and way oversized.
@@darkawakening01 That is true, they do stand out more than most real-life counterparts, but it is intentional and necessary for film which is a visual medium. Subs all look the same, they are a grey metal tube, people see it on the screen and you can't tell if it is showing you the same sub, a different sub or maybe there are thirteen subs. Patterns allow a person to quickly recognize when they are looking at different subs and when they are looking at the same sub. Oversizing the pattern made it still recognizable in a wideshot like at 0:18, I can see it is not the lead sub, at the end of this clip like 4:10 I can see that's the lead sub there. This happened in the movie Flyboys as well. I saw a behind the scenes clip where the director was talking about the German triplanes being an anachronism. In test audiences, fights between multiple biplanes were confusing because you couldn't tell the difference while they were maneuvering or when the camera cut over. They ended up making all the German planes triplanes so people could see which plane was on whose side.
@@darkawakening01 The U-Boats were actually known to contact enemy vessels and taunt them. The idea of an enemy being able to drop in and out of sight is scary already but the idea of that enemy calling you up over the loud speaker and breaking your moral. Brilliant tactic
Even though I liked it and was well done , it just fell short of being a deeper story due to it going straight to streaming . Like Band Of Brothers . Needed some more indepth back story perhaps . Still gave 8.5/10 . My Father in Law was doing this during the Atlantic Convoys by the way on HMS Amelia as an Electrician and later a leading TorpedoMan ( some smaller frigates had them )
As the terms ASDIC and SONAR are/were the same thing at the time [ - ASDIC, British, SONAR, American] what are you going on about? Incidentally I find the gentleman in question was the closest to doing anything 'brilliant' producing a submarine from what looks like an echo sounder only (Mind it is possible if done at the right angle etc. but only just
@@mikewalrus4763 I'm highlighting one of the differences in procedure between the Royal Navy and the US Navy during the Second World War. It's interesting to know. That's what learning is all about.
@Nick Belane Remembering that Radar was in it's infancy during the war years - at the start very few ships actually had a workable set let alone one that could tell the difference between air or surface contacts (as for the weather conditions at the time you'd be lucky to see anything) and that ran towards the 60's / 70's stuff as well! There are and were of course always those operators (in all Navies) whose share of "Luck" and expertise seemed to be greater than others. but even they were at times not getting much. One of the initial problems was the wave length of the bursts of power without getting too complicated with air radar mostly being in the metric size and the surface being 3 to 10 centimetric - The shorter wave length had the higher deffinition but also the shorter range plus of course the sets at the time were ALL valve sets - transistors etc just hadn't been invented! So the short answer to your question is probably NO! But possible, maybe, if you are in Holywood and trying to make a film.
great thing about this movie - is that it stays on point; no unecessary sub-plots or distracting peripheral drama. Yet it is dramatic and nerve biting in real sense where it needs to be. it seems to reflect the reality of what must have been like at sea during that time.
One of the things that IS well portrayed is that the CO had to use both calculation and intuition to fight his ship. There was no computer simulation to reference: You had to keep your position and speed in your head; your target's bearing and speed... and you to have some feel for your adversary. As Jurgen Prochnow said in "Das Boot"... "Now it get psychology". You also had to trust your people... the "plot" was to check yourself if you guessed wrong.
Hard to believe that all the Torpedo misses where shot at Greyhound were from a long distance. With all the close scenes you would think the U Boats would shot a few from closer distances. Maybe they would sink themselves from the repercussions. Wish I could ask my dad who spent two years on a Destroyer in the Atlantic during WWII. He also was on a PT Boat in the Pacific for almost two years and in the Occupation of Japan for six months. The only bad thing I can remember him talking about was the mass graves of the Okinawan people. Hard to believe that many experienced U Boat Crews couldn't have hit one torpedo into Greyhound. Happy my dad made it through 4 years of WWII.
The merchant ships and troop transports were bigger and slower, and less likely to be able to maneuver out of harm's way. The escort destroyers, on the other hand, were capable fighting ships; take out one of the escorts, and the others will find the offending U-boat come hell or high water, and sink it. Choosing to sink targets of opportunity rather than taking the enemy head-on was conducive to long life for a U-boat captain and crew. The taunting over the radio channels was a bit much, but overall this particular wolfpack had everything correct until the last couple of days.
They hunted in wolfpacks... and they would 1st set up the Destroyers for the kills ! taking out of the escort screens meant that the Uboats would have all the time needed to sink the entire convoys while they were in the kill zone without any aircover depth charge for 5 days !
@@grandpoobahful the movie was plain farcical, and portrays a first time convoy escort Commander sinking a record amount of submarines basically singehandedly. Hollywood at it again. As such its a valid statement. Perhaps they should make a movie about a real hero of WW2 sub hunting, who wrote the book on tactics- Captain Frederick John "Johnnie" Walker, Royal Navy.
When will come on CD for home ? No blue ray,,,waiting,, sick can't get out to watch,,Homebound,,Think of the elders an disable,,Love Tom Hanks,,All his movies,,♥️🙏
@@glenchapman3899 But they could make one about his nephew who is stationed at pearl harbor who loses his best friend in Britain then comes back only after he has fallen in love with the other guys girlfriend, then they get bombed at Pearl, so then they go on the doolittle raid and the guy in love with the other guys girlfriend gets shot and the other guy comes home to the girl and raises dead friends baby with the girl they both loved.......
I think my favorite bit of this is that the sonar man doesn't wait for his message to be relayed, he straight up leaves his chair to let Tom Hanks know as fast as possible.
Submarine movies/submarine depth charge attacks during WWII are tough to portray correctly as there are many technical/historic issues to get right. SONAR performance is very degraded in rough seas and these single "ash can" type depth charges were largely ineffective. The "tide did not turn" until the use of "hedgehog" type depth charges came into use. The hedgehog depth charge did not go off unless it hit the target. This allowed SONAR to continue to be used. The hedgehog also had a much wider spread. The Hedgehog entered service in 1942. Carrying a 16 kg (35 lb) Torpex charge, each mortar projectile had a diameter of 18 cm (7.1 in) and weighed about 29.5 kg (65 lb). The spigots were angled so the projectiles would land in a circular pattern with a diameter of 40 m (130 ft), about 180 m (590 ft) ahead of the ship's position. The projectiles would then sink at about 7 m/s (23 ft/s).[1] They would reach a submerged U-boat, for example at 200 ft (61 m) in under 9 seconds.
Movie was garbage. The point of a uboat is to stay down and fire from as far away as they can. This movie was for people who know nothing about sea warfare. A Uboat trying to ram a destroyer
Heureusement que les convois étaient escortés dommage que les alliés n aient pas commencé plus tôt ça aurait éviter le naufrage de tous ces malheureux marins et la perte au niveau ravitaillement et tonnage des bâtiments Des hommes courageux bravant les pires éléments surtout les u boats
An escort group commanded by Captain Frederick 'Johnnie' Walker RN was the most successful U-boat hunter in WW2 credited with destroying 23. On one patrol in 1944 it sank 6 U-boats
@Mr and Mrs. Smith My comment was intented for anyone who wanted to know more about the U-boat war. I have no connection with the Royal Navy, so I have nothing to brag about.
Well when you consider that the Germans built over 1,100 uboats throughout the war, I would say the target was well met. Dunno where you got your sources from lol.
@@corporalsilver6981 Less than 50 operational U-Boats were available to Donitz when itchy, trigger-finger, Adolph started WW2 in September of 1939. Historical fact.
@@marvinthiessen3454 Actually they had 65 U-Boats available at the start of the war. But I want to point out that having 500 uboats active at once would quite litteraly tank the German economy. You can't run so many vessels without a budget. So it makes sense.
@@corporalsilver6981 Doenitz really needed 300 at war's outset while Allied escorts and technology were weak. Instead he had about 25. By the time he had 300, it was too late, given Allied resources and technology.
My great uncle Erich Weudermann was commander of the U-506, I never knew until quite recently, nobody ever mentioned it growing up. As a United States Navy man, I'm quite proud of my heritage and ancestors 🇺🇸💞🇩🇪
I dare say many if not most families, including my own, have poor genealogy records, or could just care less, i.e. give a damn. Not until I was 30, doing my own family tree research, did I learn my maternal 4th Great-grandfather & his brother both served in Co. "G", US 35th Kentucky Infantry (Mounted) during the Civil War. I never heard either my Mom or her father mention it, & suspect neither may have known.
@@gregdzialo9998 yeah I don't know why that is. I lived in Eastern Europe for ten years and I liked to visit cathedrals, and they always had a few graves under a stone slab. The cathedral in my town, Kolín Czech Republic had one from the 1300s, a sandstone wall with a knight holding a sword, and I thought, I'm sure his ancestors live in this town, and they might not even know.
@@gregdzialo9998 no kidding. I know on my father's side I know he's got a bunch of ancestors who served with Virginia, but he doesn't know exactly which company. Far out, Kentucky, hard men.
@@freddymarcel-marcum6831 Kentucky was carved from territory claimed by Virginia statehood...many men, especially Revolutionary War & War of 1812 veterans, were awarded land grants from the state to be pioneer settlers, in lieu of a monetary pension.
@@gregdzialo9998 my mother, both of my uncle's and my sister and maternal grandfather were born in Ashland, and I'm fleeing California for Ashland in about two and a half weeks 😆 Fuck this place 😆
This movie was garbage. The point of a uboat is to stay down and fire from as far away as they can. This movie was for people who know nothing about sea warfare. A Uboat trying to ram a destroyer and surface to have a small arms firefight. Watch Das Boot
@@rhreznor If you watched the movie you would know: 1. The U boats surfaces for 2 reasons, gain speed to catch up with the convoy and to exchange fresh air. 2. The movie never once depict a ramming action by any of the U boats. It however depicts a U boat hugging another destroyer which was a common tactic at the time as destroyer BOFORS and main guns could not depress down enough to get a clean shot off. 3. German U boats who are forced to surface often use their deck gun and other mounted weaponry. Although Germans aren't as fanatic as shown in the movie and will often surrender than go down in a blaze of glory. The movie depicts U boats surfacing because of damage caused by concentrated fire. 4. German U boat wolf pack tactics shown in the movie is accurate enough. Wolf packs will often attack from opposite directions to thin out the escorts. Don't hate the movie blindly. Watch it before making yourself look like an ass on RUclips.
Well done. A different part for Hanks. As an inexperienced Commander in the most dangerous battle grounds, the North Atlantic's "dead zone". He played the part, well. The Camera work was great, it was as though a Navy Camerman was actually filming the action inside. All the nuances, the glitches and different camera angles leads to a grip of combat.
My Father served in The British Merchant Navy during The War. He was part of The North Atlantic Convoys, going to Murmansk in Russia. He said that the things they feared most was U Boats and the Weather in the depths of Winter.
My late father was a naval gunner on, amongst others, Convoy PQ17, the 'Convoy to Hell", during which he was twice torpedoed. Fortunately he survived, but often said that the lucky ones were the lads who DIDN'T come back; they didn't have to live the consequences for the rest of their lives. RIP, all the men who served, on both sides.
Yeah, that guy was in BoB. Took me some searching to confirm it because his name is not Mike Raney. The actors name is Stephen Graham. The character he portrayed in Band of Brothers was Staff Sgt. Myron N. Ranney, (nicknamed: Mike). Interesting to look him up. His career as a soldier was actually somewhat different than what was shown in BoB.
This movie was about as lifelike as it gets esp the acting, hanks played the role well no big show bang bang that usually comes out of war movies, people working together in teams as one big team I am 65 and have read and watched everything there is on the Atlantic convoys They used to form up out in Sydney harbor Cape Breton Nova Scotia all the way past New Waterford where I was born over to Glace Bay and on up to Port Morion is a coastal stretch of 20 miles on that stretch there were three German Submarines sunk
It is great acting, Hanks is superb as always and the quality of the CGI is exceptional. However it bears little relation to the reality of 1942. The United States had been in the Atlantic war but a few months they had no idea how to hunt U-boats, tactics had yet to evolve (It took the British and Canadians 3 years to evolve effective anti submarine measures mostly before the US entered the war). The Fletcher Class destroyer used in the movie were almost all deployed to the Pacific. The sonar plot shown is very late war far too sophisticated for 1942. I know of no convoys of that period with US warships in command. The escort groups were British or Canadian navy. As to U-boat tactics the principle was if a U-boat spotted a convoy it would shadow 10 miles or so astern on the surface broadcasting position course and speed to assemble a pack of U-boats. They would position themselves ahead of the convoy and submerge waiting for the convoy sail over them then surface at night in the middle of the convoy to torpedo as many as possible. They were defeated largely by radar rather than sonar.from April 1943. In essence then despite Greyhound being a great action movie the Battle of the Atlantic was almost exclusively a British and Canadian affair.
Yeah, he gets his daughter also into great acting. www.renegadetribune.com/tom-hanks-jokes-about-exploiting-his-6-year-old-daughter-in-sexy-baby-competitions/
Its a movie, nerd.slow it down. The U.S. was doing convoy duty from before they were pushed into the war. They were supplying Britain and convoys were always leaving the east coast and uboats were sinking ships in U.S. waters in 1940. And...its a movie not a documentary. Be happy they used a real ship .
I'll add this. The battle of the Atlanta was not a British/Canadian affair. The U.S. had more ships in the atkantuc than the Canadians and the British combined. Add in all the carriers, destdoyers, and aircraft from lend lease.
@@willthorson4543 You had better produce the figures to support that statement. They certainly didn't have a large number of escort vessels in the Atlantic They were overwhelmingly British/Canadian.The carriers were almost all deployed to the Pacific
What's happening at 2:25 when the hydrophone operator says, "....OVERREVVING SCREWS! HE'S TRYING TO SUBURBUR(?) US!' ? What tactic is the sub trying to employ. Is he trying to use the sorta blind spot under the ship and it's inability to maneuver on a dime to get a sudden burst of speed? And how did the ship arrive over the sub when they had turned in the opposite direction ( 1:33) and were heading away from it.
The ship's sonar can't see the Uboat once it is within minimum range, so at this point the Uboat captain tries to dodge the attack by using full power to move away from the expected location of the ship's depth charge drop. As the ship is 'blind' at this point they can't see the direction of the evasive maneuver and correct before dropping. This tactic was actually very effective, so most depth charge attacks failed to harm the submarine (though the crew no doubt got a fright from the 'close call'). The Allies ultimately devised a countermeasure: The 'hedgehog' mortar, which launched a spread of small contact fuzed bombs ahead of the ship, allowing attacks to be made while the Uboat was still visible on sonar. This noticeably increased the success rate of escorts attacking Uboats.
The sub split in two, each half veneering away from Tom Hanks,,,Why? They were intent on getting back home and lock up ALL their little girls before Tom Hanky-Panky arrived on their shores!!! LoL...
So I think if you listen to the bearings they call out throughout the clip the destroyer and the sub are head-to-head heading towards each other. The sub actually turns left onto 295 and the destroyer turns right onto 115 presumably. I guess the plot in 1:33 is inaccurate (continuity problem?). Though it is accurate in terms of bearings just not positions. They also say the sub is going dead slow. This is important because when he calls out at 2:25 "overreving screws" he's saying the sub captain is trying to rapidly increase his speed. This would be to throw of the timing of the depth charge drop. This is one reason for the head on approach taken by the sub, he wants to maximise convergence rate to make the timing more difficult. Another reason for the sub's sudden acceleration is that the sub will need the speed in order to manoeuvre once it has passed the destroyer. Another point is that when the sub is within minimum range, the destroyer does not have a way to measure the range to target and also cannot estimate the range based off previous observations because the sub is accelerating rapidly. The minimum range is just the range at which the outgoing pulse and the return pulse are indistinguishable on the oscilloscope. Furthermore, when the sub gets behind the destroyer it drops off the hydrophone/sonar. The reason for this is because the hydrophone will be drowned out by the sound of the destroyers own engines. This gives the sub captain a window of time to use full power to manoeuvre and dive deeper without being listened to. I think one critique I have of this scene is that the time between the depth charges being dropped and the going off is too short. They first have to sink to the correct depth before detonating and they have to be sufficiently far away from the destroyer not to damage the destroyer itself! If they were to draw out the moment I think the drama and the significance of the timing would be more obvious.
Former tin can sailor here USS Sellers DDG-11 ... we had ASROC anti sub weapon , which was top secret at the time, which would kill that pesky submarine .
Holy Shit ! Another Sellers Feller ! I walked the brow to the USS Sellers DDG 11 in the Autumn of 1985 as an OSSA. NAVSTA Charleston S.C. I EAOSed in December 1988 as an OS2 . OI01 was my Division . I reenlisted about six months later , got shore duty as a Navy MP in Yokosuka Japan before going back to sea on USS Antietam CG 54 out of Long Beach CA. Did a WESTPAC and a Persian Gulf deployment on Antietam. Nice to see another tin can veteran in this chat .
You also had better sonar and radar than a WWII Fletcher had during the war plus 'over the side' homing torpedoes. Even so, diesel-electric submarines remain a serious threat … the newer the boat, the greater the threat. I spent a little over 3 years in a Spruance class DD, Soviet nuc subs were much easier to detect and track than a diesel-electric.
Tom Hanks is not only a great actor but a great citizen of the U.S. as well. He understands the importance of keeping alive in each generation the veneration owed to those of their ancestors that saved the world from Fascism. He also knows that most people will get that message through their watching of films and documentaries'; not everyone is a professional historian like me who learns a lot through books. Congratulations to all who keep this memory alive.
"The men are the heroes; the heoines the ships. The only villain is the sea, the cruel sea that man has made more cruel." -The Cruel Sea by Nicholas Monsarrat, veteran of the battle of the Atlantic.
The U Boats mainly attacked unarmed allied ships doing vital supply work to help defeat the Nazis. u boat crews were brave individuals maybe but did cowardly miserable work morally.
@@nickthorp5790 o sod off. WW2 was not some fucking honor bound war. it was ruthless total war. US Subs sank Japanese merchant ships the same way and that was no less brave. "cowardly miserable work morally" grow the fuck up. This was a war that saw mass destruction of cities, blockades, and all manner of morally gray areas. sinking Merchant ships is the least "morally grey" thing you can do.
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Yes Mee too pleas
As an old submariner from the 70s, I can truly appreciate the scenes of this great movie. Cat and mouse games (of a different kind) are still being played out today. Stepped aboard my first sub as a 17 year old in 1975. Most of my submates are on Eternal Patrol now, I think of them often.
As an older submariner.. SS-337 and SS-581 I was a sonar tech... The odds of a surface ship sinking a submerged submarine are actually astronomical. Just sayin'... Been there...
So you're an easily manipulated puppet for your terrorist government 🤔
i love this film and this man and he is so successful.he is real ancient greek.
@@russellmccann9027 They sank a lot of U-boats in the Second World War, especially after March 1943.
My Father was a machinist mate aboard an Ammunition ship in the Pacific during the Second World War. The thought of Japanese subs lurking in the sea below was the toughest part he said. The Kamikaze they could at least see and his ship earned 3 Battle Stars. He served from 1942-1945.
Forrest Gump’s shrimp fishing business got very competitive.
The germans like to take the shrimp fishing business... And they are not the funniest.
Or Joe's floating bagage got an upgrade after jumping into that volcano!
So: eat shrimps and run.
Ha ha ha ha yesss Benjamin!! Best comment
You win the internet with this comment!
How it looks beneath the water you ask? Watch the uncut 5 hour version of "DAS BOOT" !!!!
Such a great movie. U saved me from mentioning it
@@chrisanderson6837 one of my all time favorites...." wtf, movie was 5 hrs?! I did not notice that!"
The 5hr version would have to be the TV series, the films were shorter
@B Fortin Thank you for that feedback, haven't heard/read it ... But it does sound like U-boat veterans, doesn't it :)
Jürgen Prochnow - great performance.
I'm so glad that I got to hear first hand my father in law's WWII stories. I never asked him just waited for him to talk and boy when he did the hair on the back of my neck stand at attention. He joined the Navy on 12/8/41 at 16. By early 1942 he was a torpedo man in the destroyer escort fleet doing convoy duty in the North Atlantic. Made 37 trips through the Panama Canal seeing Naval combat in both the Atlantic & Pacific theaters. We miss you Brownie! Thanks to all now serving, those who have, and those who will in the future. FLY NAVY!!!
Being on the flying bridge of a 2100 ton Fletcher class destroyer in heavy seas and at speed is something I will never forget. The scenes of the ship maneuvering are spot on. Well done.
"Das Boot" is the best U-boat film
Das Boot is awesome! Spellbinding tension.
Seen a movie with Puss in Das Boots. Any relation?
Indeed! Run Silent, Run Deep (movies based on Adm. Edward L. Beach, a WWII submariner), also excellent. One of my favorites is Hunt for Red October. The behavior and dialog of the US sub's personnel was also virtually spot on right down to the Capt. exclaiming "Make a hole!" when descending a ladder (stairs to all you civilians).
It is excellent, unlike the ludicrous new series of the same name.
Absolute 102...just wish they had a full blown, hog out Flak battle...with a 3.7 & the 2 twin 20's.
Saw it when it premiered on a swelteringly hot day...and the flipping air conditioning went down in the cinema.
We were literally sweating just as much as the boat's crew....and right when they surfaced and opened the coning tower hatch....the A/C came back on.💨
My grandfather was in the royal navy on trans Atlantic convoys and was sunk but survived a U-boat attack, definitely excited to watch this.
@Roy Taylor I've been told the same, been meaning to get round to it
@Roy Taylor
Definitely, The Cruel Sea is a fantastic film.
My Grandfather was a Liberty Ship (Chatham) Captain and he was torpedoed in August of 1942 in the Belle Isle Straight. All but 14 hands survived (548 Survivors), including my Grandfather. The sub (U-517) was later sunk.
Anyone who served on the "Cans" will appreciate this movie. I did, and I do. I particularly appreciated the fact that the Captain (Hanks) carried out his duties to protect the convoy faithfully, but took no joy in the deaths of the German sailors on the U-Boats. They would have killed mercilessly, and did, but that was not a reason to rejoice in their death.Whatever the feelings, he did his duty to serve and protect ("But at what cost") and that is what Hanks demonstrated in this movie - I salute him and thank him for a truly great movie on life in combat on a destroyer assigned convoy screen duties. - "hand salute!", too!.
Dear Mr. Ford,
Thank you for keeping the Germans away. Thank you for your bravery. I do not like Tom Hanks. I am conflicted about watching his movie. He seems on the one hand to respect the soldiers who fought for America but eschews America. America, as all countries is a work in progress. I sincerely wish Mr Hanks would use language that reflects the same.
Sincerely,
Brent O’Conner
Serving on WW2 destroyers was hard on their crew because these ships were so cramp and row severely especially in rough sea. There were no air condition and no heater. The heads (toilets) were always malfunctioning and backing up. It is nothing short of incredible and a tribute to the men serving aboard these ships that they could carry out their missions and actually defeat the U-boats.
I don't think that the U-boats were very luxurious in comfort either
@@danrutherford7802 probably similar
"This was an all-hands job .... ". Excellent from the Captain.
It was crap . None of it actually happened. It's all fake move crap .
@@benjimenfranklin7650 What the Battle of the Atlantic never happened? Ok buddy, in a technical sense this particular engagement might not have happened, but the point, like Das Boot, is to try and faithfully reproduce what combat in that particular theatre and time period looked like. The film Master and Commander also takes plenty of liberties when it comes to the location and timeline of the events its based on but no one argues that its depiction of naval warfare of the time isn't one of the best ever put to film.
@@asneakychicken322
Your an idiot there is no ship called Grayhound in 1942 ! It's all fake get over it 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
The command to turn to starboard would not have been greeted with silence and delay. That wheel would have been twirling.
"right standard rudder aye"
If in doubt do it and then ask
Any salty crewman would have anticipated the Captain's orders beforehand and done it without hesitation . They've done this drill dozens of times under their last Skipper . Experienced crews know what to to do . Orders from the CO do nothing but allow them to act upon their training .
Its a movie. It adds drama.
@@willthorson4543 You nailed it.
Can someone make a movie about Taffy 3 and the 5 Destroyer Escorts that stood their ground against the Yamato and a force that was vastly superior?
The Japanese Imperial Navy couldn't believe their eyes !
Having successfully lured admiral Halsey into pursuing IJN plane-less carriers,
the Japanese battleships thought they had The Leyte bridgehead set for slaughter
(making up for their missed opportunity at Guadalcanal after their Savo victory)
But those insolent little tin cans played the spoilsports with their tiny torpedoes and puny popguns !
In 1944, the IJN carriers were depleted of planes
and even more of pilots, and had begun to resort to kamikazes.
But they still had their battleships & they turned them into their mastercards above the carriers.
But Halsey was obsessed with the carriers (although a US sub had crippled 2 IJN carriers before the battle)
and underestimated the IJN battleships.
The IJN came to a hairbreadth of victory were it not for those tin cans and their escort carriers.
@@Charlesputnam-bn9zy, Halsey was just another MacArthur, a glory seeking brass ass. In the Vietnam conflict they had one called Westmoreland, another glory seeking brass ass. Every war or conflict has at least one.
Charles putnam1982 Admiral Kurita made the mistake of giving the “General Attack” order after mistaking Taffy 3 for Halsey’s 3rd Fleet carrier group. Poor communication and recon also resulted in believing Ozawa’s decoy fleet didn’t lure Halsey away.
A lot of important battles could’ve been very different if the Japanese Admirals had made a few decisions.
-Battle off Samar, Admiral Takeo Kurita could’ve annihilated Taffy 3 if he had pressed the attack and kept his ships in formation.
-Battle of Midway, Vice Admiral Chuichi Nagumo should’ve prioritized the American carriers first. His indecision costed him.
-Battle of Savo Island, Vice Admiral Gunichi Mikawa should’ve proceeded to bombard the Marines and their supplies on Guadalcanal. He also became famous for retreating when he had the chance to strike a decisive blow.
Even Yamamoto made mistakes. He should’ve had a more carrier-minded Admiral in charge of the Carriers at Midway like Jisaburo Ozawa instead of Nagumo.
Also the Aleutian Invasion was completely useless. Having the Ryujo, Jun’yo, with the Hosho and Zuiho carrying only Fighters to protect the Fleet Carriers of the 1st Carrier Division could’ve really helped in their defense.
He trusted Nagumo too much. Probably should’ve listened to Rear Admiral Tamon Yamaguchi more. Just having Kurita’s Cruiser Division and Vice Admiral Shiro Takasu’s 2nd Battleship Division from the Aleutian Fleet move ahead of the main fleet to bombard Midway would’ve drawn out Nimitz’s carriers easier. While Nimitz sends his bombers to deal with the bombardment fleet, Nagumo’s bombers are at the ready to attack his carriers once spotted.
Should’ve, could’ve, would’ve, didn’t. One has to wonder what would’ve happened if the Japanese leadership hadn’t fallen into the control of the Army.
Actually it was three destroyers and one destroyer escort: USS Johnston,
USS Samuel B. Roberts (the DE), USS Hoel and USS Heermann.
Damn good point and PLEASE without Tom Hanks and Apple involved! 👍
I was friends with and interviewed over a dozen U-Boat commanders. I watched Das Boot with Otto Kretschmer. I think these men would approve of this film, with the exception of the close range surface attack. That would only occur if a boat was damaged in the pressure hull, but I like all the scenes. First rate in my opinion as a historian.
As an amateur historian, I really this movie. That surface engagement wasn’t too historically accurate but I like to let it slide.
I’m not a historian, however I feel it was a bit of a stretch for u boat captains to mock warships over a radio, and jeopardize their location. Also, u boats targeting a warship just seemed wasteful. Their torpedos are limited, and worth way more in attacking big cargo ships, than agile warships with equipment. Overall, I think the writing besides that was great, especially the details during the engagements.
This guy's very talented, they ought to consider putting this in theaters, maybe put him under contract, I bet he'd do well.
He is another blind liberal
Tom Hanks really is a versatile actor, and really great in the WW 2 genre of war films. From Saving Private Ryan, almost 22 years ago, to executive producing Band of Brothers, and now Greyhound. He always gives an amazing effort!
Yeah, amazing efforts www.renegadetribune.com/tom-hanks-jokes-about-exploiting-his-6-year-old-daughter-in-sexy-baby-competitions/
When I was a kid in the early 60's I lived in San Diego and got to crawl around a diesel-electric submarine. That one encounter amazed me and turned me into a life long appreciator of subs. The phrase "tight-quarters " always comes to mind.
If I recall correctly the US Subs had more room than the german U-boats so even tighter quarters
I took a tour of the one in Mobile....I was amazed at how much exposed plumbing, valves, conduit were ALL over the sub. With everything on and running and buzzing ....noise....heat.... NOT where I would want to fight a battle.
Love Tom's works through the years. He brought many smiles to my late wife. I will always be thankful for that. As to his soul, GOD knows, I don't.
I hated doing timed geometry problems at school. Imagine having to do those calculations knowing that your life and the lives of your entire crew depend on you remembering Pythagoris's theorem and correctly calculating the length of the hypotenuse.
Dont forget about Algorithm, because that bloody subject always give me a g0d@mn€d headache
My sentiments exactly.
Have you ever played any submarine sim from WW2? How many times there I prayed for the right triangle ... that is piece of cake. My guess they had tables and nomograms to help them. And lot of training so it became their second nature. Still - it had to be tough
Not really that complex. Most of the maths is done by the TDC.
You need to identify the ship to find its length, then count the seconds it takes from bow to stern, divide the length by the seconds gives you m/s, times it by 2 to get knots.
Distance was calculated in different ways but essentially involved the mast height of the ship, some did it nearly automatically while some used a more manual chart comparing mast height to centiradians in the scope.
Then angle to bow is calculate either by eye or by plotting the ships heading and position compared to your position.
Going on war duty in a U-boat after, "Black May" in 1943 was a death sentence: hell, even Admiral Donitz lost his son.
Good.
NICK THORP the kind of guy who paints his room black and white.
Yeah... so? The proper place for a nazi.. dead.
Stillnapie Germans.
@@PowerandLuxury No... Nazi's...
This is a Good Movie. 👍👍👍👍👍 thanks to All the Veterans that served aboard ships during war time. Thank You
Tom Hanks single handedly routed the Germans at Omaha beach aswell as the U-boats what a guy!
Well he is the man that killed Tiger tank from the front with his 1911 pistol - thus no surprise
There are War Movies and then there is "GREYHOUND" that stands head and shoulders above the lot. Fantastic cinematography, Acting Visual effects and suspense - Best war movie ever!!
jesus you bar is low. Its alright for entertainment on a week day, but far from a classic.
Corvette K-225 is a great movie with Randolph Scott and a very young Robert Mitchum.
i love watching both this movie and Das Boot together. you get a good sense of the whole battle of the Atlantic
For those who are interested can i recommend the black and white film "the cruel sea" from the novel by Nicolas Montserrat
Its the story of a Royal Navy flower class Corvette from 1939 through the war till 1945, the Atlantic , Malta and arctic convoys
A reservist crew and the daily battle with the sea as well as the enemy. all ordinary guys doing their duty but true heroes
In Which We Serve is another great film.
Snorkers!
The Enemy Below was another great movie!
@@COIcultist Snorkers Good oh !
Das Boot was the best. This movie was garbage. The point of a uboat is to stay down and fire from as far away as they can.
This movie was for people who know nothing about sea warfare. A Uboat trying to ram a destroyer
Wish this was avail on more than Apple TV....such a great movie....More people deserve to see it.
Wolfgang Pederson's "Das Boot" is still the classic "edge of your seat" WWII naval warfare movie for which all others must be judged... and Greyhound comes pretty close. The technology and cinematography used for Das Boot was decades behind the digital wizardry used for many of the action sequences in Greyhound, which made Das Boot really stand out as an 80's action film. Also, Tom Hanks as the weary but always alert Captain comes off well but pales compared to the withered, battle hardened, war torn face of Jürgen Prochnow wasting away throughout Pedersons' film. Greyhound is good but not the best...
The movie has a submarine captain taunting the American escorts on radio to make clear who the baddies are... So much tryhard revisionism... and then these ridiculous steampunk paintjobs on the subs which have nothing to do with the originals... subs surfacing to fight destroyers in close combat... so much Hollywood bullshit.
@@darkawakening01 UBoats did have patterns painted on them. Technically they weren't supposed to but it helped morale so the fleet ignored it. An example is U-552 with a pair of large devils on the conning tower. U25 had a huge shark jaw painted on.
The sub fight on the surface was explained in the movie, "Dicky forced him up" after the depth charges and the lookout called out "She's damaged sir, can't submerge".
@@josephramponi4431 Please compare the originally used patterns to the over-the-top ones in the movie. The batches displayed are just silly and way oversized.
@@darkawakening01 That is true, they do stand out more than most real-life counterparts, but it is intentional and necessary for film which is a visual medium. Subs all look the same, they are a grey metal tube, people see it on the screen and you can't tell if it is showing you the same sub, a different sub or maybe there are thirteen subs. Patterns allow a person to quickly recognize when they are looking at different subs and when they are looking at the same sub. Oversizing the pattern made it still recognizable in a wideshot like at 0:18, I can see it is not the lead sub, at the end of this clip like 4:10 I can see that's the lead sub there.
This happened in the movie Flyboys as well. I saw a behind the scenes clip where the director was talking about the German triplanes being an anachronism. In test audiences, fights between multiple biplanes were confusing because you couldn't tell the difference while they were maneuvering or when the camera cut over. They ended up making all the German planes triplanes so people could see which plane was on whose side.
@@darkawakening01 The U-Boats were actually known to contact enemy vessels and taunt them. The idea of an enemy being able to drop in and out of sight is scary already but the idea of that enemy calling you up over the loud speaker and breaking your moral. Brilliant tactic
So pissed this wasn't in theatres.
It’s a shame this movie wasn’t released in theaters
Even though I liked it and was well done , it just fell short of being a deeper story due to it going straight to streaming . Like Band Of Brothers . Needed some more indepth back story perhaps . Still gave 8.5/10 . My Father in Law was doing this during the Atlantic Convoys by the way on HMS Amelia as an Electrician and later a leading TorpedoMan ( some smaller frigates had them )
DAS BOOT IS BEYOND GENIUS AND THIS FILM IS GREAT ALSL
Using Forresters "Good Shepherd " as a basis for this film was a masterstroke. Brilliant film and cast.
SONAR OPERATOR: "Contact inside minimum SONAR range..."
ASDIC OPERATOR: "Instantaneous Echo!"
As the terms ASDIC and SONAR are/were the same thing at the time [ - ASDIC, British, SONAR, American] what are you going on about? Incidentally I find the gentleman in question was the closest to doing anything 'brilliant' producing a submarine from what looks like an echo sounder only (Mind it is possible if done at the right angle etc. but only just
@@mikewalrus4763 I'm highlighting one of the differences in procedure between the Royal Navy and the US Navy during the Second World War.
It's interesting to know. That's what learning is all about.
@Nick Belane Remembering that Radar was in it's infancy during the war years - at the start very few ships actually had a workable set let alone one that could tell the difference between air or surface contacts (as for the weather conditions at the time you'd be lucky to see anything) and that ran towards the 60's / 70's stuff as well! There are and were of course always those operators (in all Navies) whose share of "Luck" and expertise seemed to be greater than others. but even they were at times not getting much. One of the initial problems was the wave length of the bursts of power without getting too complicated with air radar mostly being in the metric size and the surface being 3 to 10 centimetric - The shorter wave length had the higher deffinition but also the shorter range plus of course the sets at the time were ALL valve sets - transistors etc just hadn't been invented! So the short answer to your question is probably NO! But possible, maybe, if you are in Holywood and trying to make a film.
It’s like they are going to fight Godzilla.
The Nazi German U Boat are really strucking fear into the allied's convoys and flotillas heart at the Atlantic
Hahahahahahahaha
More like hunting a bear with a grenade launcher in the fog.
It's like war at sea. It's the way it was.
BEST WWII US NAVY movie to date!
Hanks can handle a German U-boat but cant handle the fire power of Ricky Gervais at the Globes
LOL Good One!
Anyway he loves little girls
Woke people cant cope with the truth.
Great actors can give great performances with dialogue and editing, comedians are on another level with quick responses. Few can do both.
as a white man Hanks wont be invited to any more Oscars
great thing about this movie - is that it stays on point; no unecessary sub-plots or distracting peripheral drama. Yet it is dramatic and nerve biting in real sense where it needs to be. it seems to reflect the reality of what must have been like at sea during that time.
Might as well put Tom Hanks in "Tom Hanks Through History":"Tom Hanks at Bull Run" "Tom Hanks as Paul Revere" and "Tom Hank's as "Pancho Villia" !
You have just seen the BEST OF THIS MOVIE!
Is Tom hanks the only actor working in ? He seems to be in everything .
Anything with a good story wants Tom Hank's as its staring actor.
@@maximiliand2544 yes but you can have too much of a good thing.
@@martincornish3179 agreed
He likes doing WW2 stuff. He did saving private ryan and this plus being part of production/director of Band of brothers and The pacific with HBO
Damn, he's been the captain of every uniform forces.
I think this is really the best destroyer movie in the world, and tom hanks the best actor in this era
One of the things that IS well portrayed is that the CO had to use both calculation and intuition to fight his ship. There was no computer simulation to reference: You had to keep your position and speed in your head; your target's bearing and speed... and you to have some feel for your adversary. As Jurgen Prochnow said in "Das Boot"... "Now it get psychology". You also had to trust your people... the "plot" was to check yourself if you guessed wrong.
A MAGNICFENT lesson in fear with COURAGE and PATRIOTISM artfully combined. Three virtues seldom seen together, yet perpetuously yearned for together.
Hard to believe that all the Torpedo misses where shot at Greyhound were from a long distance. With all the close scenes you would think the U Boats would shot a few from closer distances. Maybe they would sink themselves from the repercussions. Wish I could ask my dad who spent two years on a Destroyer in the Atlantic during WWII. He also was on a PT Boat in the Pacific for almost two years and in the Occupation of Japan for six months. The only bad thing I can remember him talking about was the mass graves of the Okinawan people. Hard to believe that many experienced U Boat Crews couldn't have hit one torpedo into Greyhound. Happy my dad made it through 4 years of WWII.
The merchant ships and troop transports were bigger and slower, and less likely to be able to maneuver out of harm's way. The escort destroyers, on the other hand, were capable fighting ships; take out one of the escorts, and the others will find the offending U-boat come hell or high water, and sink it.
Choosing to sink targets of opportunity rather than taking the enemy head-on was conducive to long life for a U-boat captain and crew. The taunting over the radio channels was a bit much, but overall this particular wolfpack had everything correct until the last couple of days.
They hunted in wolfpacks... and they would 1st set up the Destroyers for the kills ! taking out of the escort screens meant that the Uboats would have all the time needed to sink the entire convoys while they were in the kill zone without any aircover depth charge for 5 days !
"He's going Crazy Ivan Crazy Ivan".....
Tom hank's single handily winning WW 2 for the USA 🇺🇸 😀
In France, and the Atlantic. A movie of Tom Hanks beating the Japanese is next.
Also the Cold War (Gump and Bridge of Spies)
stupid statement..... these types of heroes need to be remembered.... maybe we can avoid having to fight the same fight again
@@grandpoobahful the movie was plain farcical, and portrays a first time convoy escort Commander sinking a record amount of submarines basically singehandedly. Hollywood at it again. As such its a valid statement. Perhaps they should make a movie about a real hero of WW2 sub hunting, who wrote the book on tactics- Captain Frederick John "Johnnie" Walker, Royal Navy.
Watching Tom Hanks bark out orders from the bridge for 120 minutes is truly mind-numbing
Excellent movie .. gives you great idea of what it was like for a destroyer battling U boats
When will come on CD for home ? No blue ray,,,waiting,, sick can't get out to watch,,Homebound,,Think of the elders an disable,,Love Tom Hanks,,All his movies,,♥️🙏
Браво! Шикарный фильм. Том Хэнкс - отличный артист.
The Sequel ? He drops on the beaches of Normandy and needs to save to brother of some dude he never met
Na they would never make it. To unrealistic plot ;)
@@glenchapman3899 But they could make one about his nephew who is stationed at pearl harbor who loses his best friend in Britain then comes back only after he has fallen in love with the other guys girlfriend, then they get bombed at Pearl, so then they go on the doolittle raid and the guy in love with the other guys girlfriend gets shot and the other guy comes home to the girl and raises dead friends baby with the girl they both loved.......
@@bad74maverick1 lol
Tom Hanks got his guys in the crow's nest keeping a lookout for a volley ball floating in the ocean. _"Wiiiiilsooooon!!! I'm soooorry!!!"_
@@bad74maverick1 he was joking because they made saving private ryan
I think my favorite bit of this is that the sonar man doesn't wait for his message to be relayed, he straight up leaves his chair to let Tom Hanks know as fast as possible.
The term 'U-Boat submarine' is redundant. A U-Boat is a submarine.
U-Boot= Unterseeboot
U-boat is an anglicised version of the German word U-Boot
I agree. Unless there is another kind of U-Boat that isn't a submarine? (Rhetorical question)
das boot
@@skelejp9982 no! Unterwasser Boot = U-Boot
Like Naan bread and Chai tea?
Submarine movies/submarine depth charge attacks during WWII are tough to portray correctly as there are many technical/historic issues to get right. SONAR performance is very degraded in rough seas and these single "ash can" type depth charges were largely ineffective. The "tide did not turn" until the use of "hedgehog" type depth charges came into use. The hedgehog depth charge did not go off unless it hit the target. This allowed SONAR to continue to be used. The hedgehog also had a much wider spread. The Hedgehog entered service in 1942. Carrying a 16 kg (35 lb) Torpex charge, each mortar projectile had a diameter of 18 cm (7.1 in) and weighed about 29.5 kg (65 lb). The spigots were angled so the projectiles would land in a circular pattern with a diameter of 40 m (130 ft), about 180 m (590 ft) ahead of the ship's position. The projectiles would then sink at about 7 m/s (23 ft/s).[1] They would reach a submerged U-boat, for example at 200 ft (61 m) in under 9 seconds.
We were long overdue, for some Tom Hanks in WW 2.
be...cause... Saving Private Ryan...doesn't exist? Or wasn't good enough?
Movie was garbage. The point of a uboat is to stay down and fire from as far away as they can.
This movie was for people who know nothing about sea warfare. A Uboat trying to ram a destroyer
Heureusement que les convois étaient escortés dommage que les alliés n aient pas commencé plus tôt ça aurait éviter le naufrage de tous ces malheureux marins et la perte au niveau ravitaillement et tonnage des bâtiments
Des hommes courageux bravant
les pires éléments surtout les u boats
@123 xyz Maybe he can play a communist political commissar in the red army
123 xyz He's an actor. Who fucking cares about his politics.
Such a magnificent movie! Truly one of Hanks' finest performances. ❤
An escort group commanded by Captain Frederick 'Johnnie' Walker RN was the most successful U-boat hunter in WW2 credited with destroying 23. On one patrol in 1944 it sank 6 U-boats
@Mr and Mrs. Smith My comment was intented for anyone who wanted to know more about the U-boat war. I have no connection with the Royal Navy, so I have nothing to brag about.
A great movie, I enjoyed a lot! Is the best action movie I ever saw!
Admiral Donitz: I need 500 U-Boats to win the war
Hitler: Here's 50
Close enough
Well when you consider that the Germans built over 1,100 uboats throughout the war, I would say the target was well met. Dunno where you got your sources from lol.
@@corporalsilver6981 Less than 50 operational U-Boats were available to Donitz when itchy, trigger-finger, Adolph started WW2 in September of 1939. Historical fact.
@@marvinthiessen3454 Actually they had 65 U-Boats available at the start of the war. But I want to point out that having 500 uboats active at once would quite litteraly tank the German economy. You can't run so many vessels without a budget. So it makes sense.
783 Uboats were sunk during the Battle of the Atlantic. Dunno were 50 came from.
@@corporalsilver6981 Doenitz really needed 300 at war's outset while Allied escorts and technology were weak. Instead he had about 25. By the time he had 300, it was too late, given Allied resources and technology.
like the comments in the back. proud navy people that help and helped keep our small country safe. big X from Amsterdam!
My great uncle Erich Weudermann was commander of the U-506, I never knew until quite recently, nobody ever mentioned it growing up. As a United States Navy man, I'm quite proud of my heritage and ancestors 🇺🇸💞🇩🇪
I dare say many if not most families, including my own, have poor genealogy records, or could just care less, i.e. give a damn. Not until I was 30, doing my own family tree research, did I learn my maternal 4th Great-grandfather & his brother both served in Co. "G", US 35th Kentucky Infantry (Mounted) during the Civil War. I never heard either my Mom or her father mention it, & suspect neither may have known.
@@gregdzialo9998 yeah I don't know why that is. I lived in Eastern Europe for ten years and I liked to visit cathedrals, and they always had a few graves under a stone slab. The cathedral in my town, Kolín Czech Republic had one from the 1300s, a sandstone wall with a knight holding a sword, and I thought, I'm sure his ancestors live in this town, and they might not even know.
@@gregdzialo9998 no kidding. I know on my father's side I know he's got a bunch of ancestors who served with Virginia, but he doesn't know exactly which company. Far out, Kentucky, hard men.
@@freddymarcel-marcum6831
Kentucky was carved from territory claimed by Virginia statehood...many men, especially Revolutionary War & War of 1812 veterans, were awarded land grants from the state to be pioneer settlers, in lieu of a monetary pension.
@@gregdzialo9998 my mother, both of my uncle's and my sister and maternal grandfather were born in Ashland, and I'm fleeing California for Ashland in about two and a half weeks 😆 Fuck this place 😆
“Now Mr Lopez” best part of the movie
Sought of like The Enemy Below. Now, that is a movie!
Thanks for the unbiased depiction of the enemy ;)
Nice plug..iam still not getting apple anything...
Movie HD on a Sony android tv👍
I’ve watched it several times!! It’s really good!!
This movie was garbage. The point of a uboat is to stay down and fire from as far away as they can.
This movie was for people who know nothing about sea warfare. A Uboat trying to ram a destroyer
and surface to have a small arms firefight.
Watch Das Boot
Where did you watched
@@patricioaguayo9088 I watched it on popcorntime
@@rhreznor If you watched the movie you would know:
1. The U boats surfaces for 2 reasons, gain speed to catch up with the convoy and to exchange fresh air.
2. The movie never once depict a ramming action by any of the U boats. It however depicts a U boat hugging another destroyer which was a common tactic at the time as destroyer BOFORS and main guns could not depress down enough to get a clean shot off.
3. German U boats who are forced to surface often use their deck gun and other mounted weaponry. Although Germans aren't as fanatic as shown in the movie and will often surrender than go down in a blaze of glory. The movie depicts U boats surfacing because of damage caused by concentrated fire.
4. German U boat wolf pack tactics shown in the movie is accurate enough. Wolf packs will often attack from opposite directions to thin out the escorts.
Don't hate the movie blindly. Watch it before making yourself look like an ass on RUclips.
Well done. A different part for Hanks. As an inexperienced Commander in the most dangerous battle grounds, the North Atlantic's "dead zone". He played the part, well. The Camera work was great, it was as though a Navy Camerman was actually filming the action inside. All the nuances, the glitches and different camera angles leads to a grip of combat.
My Father served in The British Merchant Navy during The War. He was part of The North Atlantic Convoys, going to Murmansk in Russia. He said that the things they feared most was U Boats and the Weather in the depths of Winter.
My late father was a naval gunner on, amongst others, Convoy PQ17, the 'Convoy to Hell", during which he was twice torpedoed. Fortunately he survived, but often said that the lucky ones were the lads who DIDN'T come back; they didn't have to live the consequences for the rest of their lives. RIP, all the men who served, on both sides.
First, when did U-boats sound like humpback whales?
Second, is that Mike Raney from band of brothers at 0:29?
Second, yes guy was in band of brothers.
Tommy 'The tit' from Snatch.
Obviously thqt is Al Capone's nephew.
Yeah, that guy was in BoB. Took me some searching to confirm it because his name is not Mike Raney. The actors name is Stephen Graham. The character he portrayed in Band of Brothers was Staff Sgt. Myron N. Ranney, (nicknamed: Mike). Interesting to look him up. His career as a soldier was actually somewhat different than what was shown in BoB.
The sound of the u-boats is supposed to sound haunting and eerie, even scary.
Once you realize it's the 'whale song' it becomes a mockery
Great Movie. MUCH RESPECT to those Guys.....Battle of the Atlantic....
If you like this watch "The Cruel Sea" with jack Hawkins (and read the book!)
This by far is d greatest NAVAL MOVIE I EVER WATCH.
Can we just cut to the chase and make a ww2 movie where Tom Hanks just plays everyone?
frank patton what is that ?
@frank patton - He only would have a cameo in a movie like that..
@@nicoscami3982 so Kevin spacey is who you mean
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Tom hanks played the role perfectly. He is one of the great actors of my generation.
WAS... He's shit now.
This movie was about as lifelike as it gets esp the acting, hanks played the role well no big show bang bang that usually comes out of war movies, people working together in teams as one big team I am 65 and have read and watched everything there is on the Atlantic convoys They used to form up out in Sydney harbor Cape Breton Nova Scotia all the way past New Waterford where I was born over to Glace Bay and on up to Port Morion is a coastal stretch of 20 miles on that stretch there were three German Submarines sunk
Awesome Movie! Tom Hanks always does a great job!
WHY isn't this movie being made available to the general public in DVD format? A lot of us do not do streaming format of any kind so I feel cheated.
They sold the rights to Apple.
0:57 the cg Is amazing
In a videogame cutscene
something a narcassist will never understand....something bigger than self! well done again mr. hanks well done again!
Tom hanks should be acting in movies about me wearing wigs, not soldiers or sailors
It is great acting, Hanks is superb as always and the quality of the CGI is exceptional. However it bears little relation to the reality of 1942. The United States had been in the Atlantic war but a few months they had no idea how to hunt U-boats, tactics had yet to evolve (It took the British and Canadians 3 years to evolve effective anti submarine measures mostly before the US entered the war). The Fletcher Class destroyer used in the movie were almost all deployed to the Pacific. The sonar plot shown is very late war far too sophisticated for 1942. I know of no convoys of that period with US warships in command. The escort groups were British or Canadian navy. As to U-boat tactics the principle was if a U-boat spotted a convoy it would shadow 10 miles or so astern on the surface broadcasting position course and speed to assemble a pack of U-boats. They would position themselves ahead of the convoy and submerge waiting for the convoy sail over them then surface at night in the middle of the convoy to torpedo as many as possible. They were defeated largely by radar rather than sonar.from April 1943. In essence then despite Greyhound being a great action movie the Battle of the Atlantic was almost exclusively a British and Canadian affair.
Yeah, he gets his daughter also into great acting. www.renegadetribune.com/tom-hanks-jokes-about-exploiting-his-6-year-old-daughter-in-sexy-baby-competitions/
Its a movie, nerd.slow it down. The U.S. was doing convoy duty from before they were pushed into the war. They were supplying Britain and convoys were always leaving the east coast and uboats were sinking ships in U.S. waters in 1940. And...its a movie not a documentary. Be happy they used a real ship .
I'll add this. The battle of the Atlanta was not a British/Canadian affair. The U.S. had more ships in the atkantuc than the Canadians and the British combined. Add in all the carriers, destdoyers, and aircraft from lend lease.
@@willthorson4543 You had better produce the figures to support that statement. They certainly didn't have a large number of escort vessels in the Atlantic They were overwhelmingly British/Canadian.The carriers were almost all deployed to the Pacific
@@willthorson4543 Watch "The Cruel Sea" a far more accurate representation.
Dad was on the USS Decatur, DD341. I wish he was still alive to see this movie.
@MrPeterharold Undoubtedly so.
What's happening at 2:25 when the hydrophone operator says, "....OVERREVVING SCREWS! HE'S TRYING TO SUBURBUR(?) US!' ? What tactic is the sub trying to employ. Is he trying to use the sorta blind spot under the ship and it's inability to maneuver on a dime to get a sudden burst of speed?
And how did the ship arrive over the sub when they had turned in the opposite direction ( 1:33) and were heading away from it.
The ship's sonar can't see the Uboat once it is within minimum range, so at this point the Uboat captain tries to dodge the attack by using full power to move away from the expected location of the ship's depth charge drop. As the ship is 'blind' at this point they can't see the direction of the evasive maneuver and correct before dropping.
This tactic was actually very effective, so most depth charge attacks failed to harm the submarine (though the crew no doubt got a fright from the 'close call'). The Allies ultimately devised a countermeasure: The 'hedgehog' mortar, which launched a spread of small contact fuzed bombs ahead of the ship, allowing attacks to be made while the Uboat was still visible on sonar. This noticeably increased the success rate of escorts attacking Uboats.
Javier Fauxnom ... “he’s trying to slip under us” I think is what was said.
The sub split in two, each half veneering away from Tom Hanks,,,Why? They were intent on getting back home and lock up ALL their little girls before Tom Hanky-Panky arrived on their shores!!! LoL...
So I think if you listen to the bearings they call out throughout the clip the destroyer and the sub are head-to-head heading towards each other. The sub actually turns left onto 295 and the destroyer turns right onto 115 presumably. I guess the plot in 1:33 is inaccurate (continuity problem?). Though it is accurate in terms of bearings just not positions. They also say the sub is going dead slow. This is important because when he calls out at 2:25 "overreving screws" he's saying the sub captain is trying to rapidly increase his speed. This would be to throw of the timing of the depth charge drop. This is one reason for the head on approach taken by the sub, he wants to maximise convergence rate to make the timing more difficult. Another reason for the sub's sudden acceleration is that the sub will need the speed in order to manoeuvre once it has passed the destroyer.
Another point is that when the sub is within minimum range, the destroyer does not have a way to measure the range to target and also cannot estimate the range based off previous observations because the sub is accelerating rapidly. The minimum range is just the range at which the outgoing pulse and the return pulse are indistinguishable on the oscilloscope.
Furthermore, when the sub gets behind the destroyer it drops off the hydrophone/sonar. The reason for this is because the hydrophone will be drowned out by the sound of the destroyers own engines. This gives the sub captain a window of time to use full power to manoeuvre and dive deeper without being listened to.
I think one critique I have of this scene is that the time between the depth charges being dropped and the going off is too short. They first have to sink to the correct depth before detonating and they have to be sufficiently far away from the destroyer not to damage the destroyer itself! If they were to draw out the moment I think the drama and the significance of the timing would be more obvious.
Marek Hilton they can do anything they want it’s a movie
Action packed all the way though. 10/10 👍
“German U-boat submarine?” Couldn’t squeeze in “underwater enemy submersible warship?”
U-boat is short for Unterseeboot which means submarine. It’s like saying “Panzer tank” or “Flugzeug plane”.
@@samanli-tw3id yah that's what hes getting at. It is redundant to say both UBoat and SubMarine
At least they didn't call anything German in WW2 as Nazi.
every film that Tom Hanks has been in has been fantastic one of the very best actor out there today keep up the great work Tom. S C UK.
served on the bridge, the helmsman would have been removed from the bridge before the captain had time to realize his (hesitation)
Former tin can sailor here USS Sellers DDG-11 ... we had ASROC anti sub weapon , which was top secret at the time, which would kill that pesky submarine .
Holy Shit ! Another Sellers Feller ! I walked the brow to the USS Sellers DDG 11 in the Autumn of 1985 as an OSSA. NAVSTA Charleston S.C. I EAOSed in December 1988 as an OS2 . OI01 was my Division . I reenlisted about six months later , got shore duty as a Navy MP in Yokosuka Japan before going back to sea on USS Antietam CG 54 out of Long Beach CA. Did a WESTPAC and a Persian Gulf deployment on Antietam. Nice to see another tin can veteran in this chat .
You also had better sonar and radar than a WWII Fletcher had during the war plus 'over the side' homing torpedoes. Even so, diesel-electric submarines remain a serious threat … the newer the boat, the greater the threat. I spent a little over 3 years in a Spruance class DD, Soviet nuc subs were much easier to detect and track than a diesel-electric.
As Hanks drops depth charges, he's taking depth charges.
Tom Hanks is not only a great actor but a great citizen of the U.S. as well. He understands the importance of keeping alive in each generation the veneration owed to those of their ancestors that saved the world from Fascism. He also knows that most people will get that message through their watching of films and documentaries'; not everyone is a professional historian like me who learns a lot through books. Congratulations to all who keep this memory alive.
This is the movie where Captain Phillips sinks a Somali U-boat.
While landing on the Hudson.
MUY BUENA PELÍCULA , GRANDE THOM
Seeing the body floating on the surface really shook me up. RIP to all who fought.
"The men are the heroes; the heoines the ships. The only villain is the sea, the cruel sea that man has made more cruel." -The Cruel Sea by Nicholas Monsarrat, veteran of the battle of the Atlantic.
Fuck the u boat and the crew.. fucking cowards
Mr Green You’re either bait, an SJW, or insane. How dare you call the uboat crews cowards. Three quarters of them died in battle.
The U Boats mainly attacked unarmed allied ships doing vital supply work to help defeat the Nazis. u boat crews were brave individuals maybe but did cowardly miserable work morally.
@@nickthorp5790 o sod off. WW2 was not some fucking honor bound war. it was ruthless total war. US Subs sank Japanese merchant ships the same way and that was no less brave. "cowardly miserable work morally" grow the fuck up.
This was a war that saw mass destruction of cities, blockades, and all manner of morally gray areas. sinking Merchant ships is the least "morally grey" thing you can do.
Best RUclips channel . We came to learn more WWII. Wishes from India
My dad told me it was him and Errol Flynn who won the war. It seems he was mistaken it was Tom Hanks.
AUDIE MURPHY WON THE SECOND WORLD WAR. JOHN WAYNE AND THE REST ACTED IN IT.
I believe that Errol Flynn liberated Burma single-handedly.
Thanks Tom Hanks. Their were U-Boats right off the coast here in Newport News Virginia. Robert.
Most of us will never see this movie. Apple + owns it.
go to 123movies,
I couldn’t agree more, this movie needs to be seen on the big screen. The fact that we will not is an absolute greedy travesty.
Or get the one week free trial of apple plus and then cancel it like we did.
torrent? lol
@@grantv2313 did tht with Disney+ too for Mandalorian
Looking forward to viewing this feature film. 🕊️🇺🇸⚓
Saying U-boat submarine is like saying submarine submarine.
You can say that again ...
Great movie, best of 2020. So far.
Trolling?
Really??...ja,ja..