I got a cannon alpha hybrid version and I am towing 2.5t trailer boat. Comparing to towing with a 2.0T older GWM cannon, the acceleration is much better and the control is much much better. Like you said the fuel consumption is much higher (on my old GWM cannon it was 15L/100km) I haven't test long distance towing with new alpha hybrid. I will be testing it next month. Another thing I found is that the rear camera on cannon alpha cannot see the tow ball anymore. I got a short video of GWM alpha towing 2.5t boat. Will do more test
This ute won Bakkie(UTE/pickup) of the year 2024 in South Africa. Literally less than 3 months after it was launched in South Africa 🇿🇦 😅... What a mighty machine...I wonder how a turbo diesel v6 might pair up for to the tank 500 and Canon alpha?
My Stock Cannon L with 3T Caravan was 17.3L per 100 under full thrash race caravan driving haha. My Modified Cannon L with 3T Caravan was 19.3L per 100 under full thrash race caravan driving (Big ass dual axle 3T full size van) The Alpha Diesel is pretty thirsty..... And the Tank 500 Hybrid HOLY CRAB haha
So i have the lux.. Do you have an issue where the alerts are changing the volume of your music in android audio? I constantly have issues where podcasts are being stopped and started and music volumes changed. Also on the cruise, it would have been worth mentioning to resume the cruise at the same speed, hold the stalk back for 5 seconds to resume, but thanks for the double-tap info.
Quite horrified at those fuel figures last trip I did up that road a few months ago, my 2015 WK2 Jeep 3.0lt Diesel Overland managed 12.8 lt per 100klm, travelling 95klm most of the way with my 2.5 tonne van...
Byron, thanks for the video's. As a Cannon Alpha Diesel owner, you didn't actually tell us how much you got into the tank after running out. Be really interested to know to true capacity without having to run mine out of juice!
Up in God's Country ah Port Macquarie bloody top spot I've got the Alpha ultra diesel definitely a upgrade from the cannon X bro I hope you had a good run home
@SavageTechAustralia For the Canon Alpha diesel... How much power on a tune can you get out of that 2.4 motor that's reliable for long hauls... Probably towing just under 3000kilos
@@SavageTechAustraliathanks mate, really wanna get the 300 diesel to tow a caravan same size as the one you just towed but was worried it won’t be capable enough especially with the shorter wheelbase
awesome video of towing and so honest .was always convinced the diesel is the way to go for towing ,have towed and drivin trucks for years .But there is the hybrid guys convinced there great but yes fuel consumption it real not matter what you drive .thanks byron for the update ,now got to decide do i wait for the kia tasman and the new foton V7 & V9 to arrive the diesel hydrid would be really interesting . thanks once again .if i order the alpha ill be intouch as there will be some upgrades ill be after .thanks once again .
@SavageTechAustralia my Cannon DPF really pisses me off. I love my Cannon, but the DPF issues is starting to make me think of trading it in on an Alpha.
The diesel is definately more appealing for those who wants to haul heavy stuff the majority of time...the hybrid in all honesty is for city folks that occasionally use it off-road.
Any turbo engine particularly a 4 cylinder should be using 98 and given you are towing on maximum load, even more reason to use 98. Surprised it hasn't blown up under all that pressure. Poor knock sensors.
This car is tuned specifically for 91 octane fuel. Using 98 octane in this case wouldn’t provide any additional benefit, as the ECU isn’t mapped to take advantage of the higher-octane rating. Proper tuning is key, and the knock sensors are functioning as intended.
@Mike_221 The compression ratio is just one factor in determining the required octane fuel. While a 12:1 ratio may suggest the need for higher-octane fuel, the Tank 500's engine is designed and tuned to run optimally on 91 RON as specified by the manufacturer. Modern turbocharged engines like this have advanced knock sensors and timing controls, which adapt to prevent knocking and ensure safe operation with lower-octane fuel. Using 98 RON in an engine tuned for 91 won’t provide added benefits unless the engine is specifically tuned for it. In summary, the compression ratio alone doesn’t dictate the fuel requirement-it's about how the engine is designed and tuned. Following the manufacturer’s recommendation ensures the best performance and reliability.
Don't want to sound like a wanker but I'm a firm believer of using 98ron fuel in modern cars even if they are designed to be able to handle 91. My theory is than it burns cleaner and even between the piston strokes than 91 so you get even pressure with every combustion cycle therefore increasing engines longevity, but that just me . Each to their own I guess.
I am massively disappointed that GWM didn’t bring out the V6 and V6 hybrid in these vehicles also the payload from the factory the Alpha has is a complete joke
I am staggered when I see videos like this. What is the rationale for using utes and big SUV's in Australia? We have a 6.5m caravan (2,480 kg gtm) and we use a bog standard Volvo XC60 D4 inscription ( 2.0 L diesel, air suspension, 8 speed ZF auto). We average 12 L/100 km fuel consumption while towing (approx. $200 per 1,000 km). Why would anybody tolerate spending $500+ per 1K? It's mind boggling people are so stupid. We never struggle sitting on the speed limit and we never struggle with stability or safety. Simply amazing the excuses people use for using fuel guzzling, highly modified shit boxes. I'd rather do it in comfort and luxury and save money to boot.
No offence intended, but the Volvo XC60 is simply not designed for off-road tracks-it's a completely different category of vehicle compared to the Tank 500. The Tank 500 is not only more capable off-road, but it also offers a much higher level of comfort and luxury. Having owned over 30 European cars myself, I can confidently say the Tank 500 is in a league of its own when it comes to combining capability with refinement.
@@SavageTechAustralia doing hazardous goods transport training there was footage a fire at a servo caused by static electricity - static electricity can start fire known fact.
Great episode, have been waiting for ages for such a review . Thank you
I got a cannon alpha hybrid version and I am towing 2.5t trailer boat. Comparing to towing with a 2.0T older GWM cannon, the acceleration is much better and the control is much much better. Like you said the fuel consumption is much higher (on my old GWM cannon it was 15L/100km) I haven't test long distance towing with new alpha hybrid. I will be testing it next month. Another thing I found is that the rear camera on cannon alpha cannot see the tow ball anymore. I got a short video of GWM alpha towing 2.5t boat. Will do more test
Great Vid Byron! Really enjoyed that. Time to get a Diesel Alpha! Haha.
Get up the dog!
FYI: NSW - The maximum speed is 100 km/h for tow vehicles and caravans with a combined weight of more than 4,500 kg
@@menotdeadyet good to know
haha came to the comments to see who said this haha
This ute won Bakkie(UTE/pickup) of the year 2024 in South Africa. Literally less than 3 months after it was launched in South Africa 🇿🇦 😅... What a mighty machine...I wonder how a turbo diesel v6 might pair up for to the tank 500 and Canon alpha?
My Stock Cannon L with 3T Caravan was 17.3L per 100 under full thrash race caravan driving haha.
My Modified Cannon L with 3T Caravan was 19.3L per 100 under full thrash race caravan driving
(Big ass dual axle 3T full size van)
The Alpha Diesel is pretty thirsty.....
And the Tank 500 Hybrid HOLY CRAB haha
So i have the lux.. Do you have an issue where the alerts are changing the volume of your music in android audio? I constantly have issues where podcasts are being stopped and started and music volumes changed.
Also on the cruise, it would have been worth mentioning to resume the cruise at the same speed, hold the stalk back for 5 seconds to resume, but thanks for the double-tap info.
@7:16.... We need Tank 500 "Savage" -> Tank 500+ 2.4 diesel+Savage 3way suspension lift+33"
Quite horrified at those fuel figures last trip I did up that road a few months ago, my 2015 WK2 Jeep 3.0lt Diesel Overland managed 12.8 lt per 100klm, travelling 95klm most of the way with my 2.5 tonne van...
Does the Cannon Alpha have a tachometer and gear display? I'd like to know what the engine and transmission is doing like you do in a manual.
Looking forward to the towing test with the PHEV versions. Expect the worst, but let’s see!
Can't wait we will be testing the shark first👍
@@SavageTechAustraliaAwesome!
Have they fixed the gearbox issue in the cannon alpha?
Byron, thanks for the video's. As a Cannon Alpha Diesel owner, you didn't actually tell us how much you got into the tank after running out. Be really interested to know to true capacity without having to run mine out of juice!
Up in God's Country ah Port Macquarie bloody top spot I've got the Alpha ultra diesel definitely a upgrade from the cannon X bro I hope you had a good run home
@SavageTechAustralia
For the Canon Alpha diesel... How much power on a tune can you get out of that 2.4 motor that's reliable for long hauls... Probably towing just under 3000kilos
Great review
Thanks for watching 😜
gwm will be releasing tank hi4-z
dont know if they will come to Australia
@@DavidB-oj1wi yes new engines are insane.
Yes, i write it 5 minutes ago too 😅 hi4z is cool version, big battery. Hi4t 37 kwt, hi4z ~60 kwt. It is better than diesel and hev
what you prefer cannon x or the alpha ?
Alpha all day I have had my cannon for 4 years
We average around 21 lt towing a 21 foot van in our tank 500
I just wished they bought out the v6 twin turbo to Australia
What’s the weight of your van?
@ about 2700 kg with bare essentials
@@hunterhomeservicesracing6453 cheers
What size tyres are you running on the tank 500? 305/70R17?
@@NashvilleAustralia these are 295/70/17 but we have 5 different sets we run on it.
Would you expect a similar result on the Tank 300 when they release it with the Alpha diesel engine next year?
@@christopherpine94 it should be lower economy.
@@SavageTechAustraliathanks mate, really wanna get the 300 diesel to tow a caravan same size as the one you just towed but was worried it won’t be capable enough especially with the shorter wheelbase
@christopherpine94 the 300 tows really well even though it was short wheel base. I've tested big loads with our 2.0l petrol
@@SavageTechAustralia amazing! I’ll be coming to you for some upgrades that’s for sure.. do you do transmission coolers?
heavy duty coil springs void warranty with GWM?
Only if something else breaking is caused by the change. If they were designed to fit there wouldn't be any issue
@@beachmaster8849 bot you are!
upgrade GVM warrant is violated
Wow ..great video ..thanks..
awesome video of towing and so honest .was always convinced the diesel is the way to go for towing ,have towed and drivin trucks for years .But there is the hybrid guys convinced there great but yes fuel consumption it real not matter what you drive .thanks byron for the update ,now got to decide do i wait for the kia tasman and the new foton V7 & V9 to arrive the diesel hydrid would be really interesting . thanks once again .if i order the alpha ill be intouch as there will be some upgrades ill be after .thanks once again .
Any DPF issues or DPF burns on your run?
@@willandrews4809 not at all, you honestly don't even know it's doing it.
It's totally different to the 2.0 in The cannon.
@SavageTechAustralia my Cannon DPF really pisses me off. I love my Cannon, but the DPF issues is starting to make me think of trading it in on an Alpha.
@SavageTechAustralia what about an after market turbo diesel upgrade (engine replacement) for a Tank 500 🙂 ... maybe called it the Franken500..
Those figures are worse that a patrol.
What is your total combined weight. Legal?? Even the 34,s are illegal in nsw
The diesel is definately more appealing for those who wants to haul heavy stuff the majority of time...the hybrid in all honesty is for city folks that occasionally use it off-road.
Any turbo engine particularly a 4 cylinder should be using 98 and given you are towing on maximum load, even more reason to use 98. Surprised it hasn't blown up under all that pressure. Poor knock sensors.
This car is tuned specifically for 91 octane fuel. Using 98 octane in this case wouldn’t provide any additional benefit, as the ECU isn’t mapped to take advantage of the higher-octane rating. Proper tuning is key, and the knock sensors are functioning as intended.
@SavageTechAustralia it has a 12:1 compression ratio you would be an idiot not to put 98 Ron in it.
@Mike_221 The compression ratio is just one factor in determining the required octane fuel. While a 12:1 ratio may suggest the need for higher-octane fuel, the Tank 500's engine is designed and tuned to run optimally on 91 RON as specified by the manufacturer.
Modern turbocharged engines like this have advanced knock sensors and timing controls, which adapt to prevent knocking and ensure safe operation with lower-octane fuel. Using 98 RON in an engine tuned for 91 won’t provide added benefits unless the engine is specifically tuned for it.
In summary, the compression ratio alone doesn’t dictate the fuel requirement-it's about how the engine is designed and tuned. Following the manufacturer’s recommendation ensures the best performance and reliability.
Don't want to sound like a wanker but I'm a firm believer of using 98ron fuel in modern cars even if they are designed to be able to handle 91. My theory is than it burns cleaner and even between the piston strokes than 91 so you get even pressure with every combustion cycle therefore increasing engines longevity, but that just me . Each to their own I guess.
Use google, it's engine uses Miller cycle
Man, gwm made alfa hi4Z version with big battery, look on youtube
Yes we follow all the social media in china😍
@SavageTechAustralia can you find and make video of this car?
I am massively disappointed that GWM didn’t bring out the V6 and V6 hybrid in these vehicles also the payload from the factory the Alpha has is a complete joke
When going downhill for a long period on eco mode, it will switch to EV. I drove to the bottom of mt bulla on EV all the way to the bottom.
First here😅🤚
3 tonne both vehicles no no
I am staggered when I see videos like this. What is the rationale for using utes and big SUV's in Australia? We have a 6.5m caravan (2,480 kg gtm) and we use a bog standard Volvo XC60 D4 inscription ( 2.0 L diesel, air suspension, 8 speed ZF auto). We average 12 L/100 km fuel consumption while towing (approx. $200 per 1,000 km). Why would anybody tolerate spending $500+ per 1K? It's mind boggling people are so stupid. We never struggle sitting on the speed limit and we never struggle with stability or safety. Simply amazing the excuses people use for using fuel guzzling, highly modified shit boxes. I'd rather do it in comfort and luxury and save money to boot.
No offence intended, but the Volvo XC60 is simply not designed for off-road tracks-it's a completely different category of vehicle compared to the Tank 500.
The Tank 500 is not only more capable off-road, but it also offers a much higher level of comfort and luxury. Having owned over 30 European cars myself, I can confidently say the Tank 500 is in a league of its own when it comes to combining capability with refinement.
"I do the speed limit" as he does 110kph towing 😂😂😂.
@@adamcameron8972 well we are from Qld and have no specific towing speed limit lol.
Great country Australia has different rules for every state 🤣
Every servo has a sign saying don't use mobile phones! Have you never heard of static-electricity? Good review other than that
@@menotdeadyet who's using a mobile phone? We use specialised cameras to film.
Wtf bro 😆😆😆
@@Phoenixgamingnp funny how people judge without knowing the facts.
@@SavageTechAustralia doing hazardous goods transport training there was footage a fire at a servo caused by static electricity - static electricity can start fire known fact.
@menotdeadyet yes if you are using a mobile phone. WE ARE NOT USING A MOBILE PHONE TO FILM