Amanda Seales Shuts Down Autism Diagnosis Criticism: It's Not Up for Debate!
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2024
- In a new interview with Club Shay Shay, Amanda Seales opens up about her austism diagnosis and now she is responding to the backlash she has received after admitting it was a "self-diagnosis."
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I advocate that she (and anyone) undergo formal clinical assessment for a range of concerns and therapy to support her functioning. The symptoms she reported and how they manifest in her are suggestive of various disorders. Knowledge is power and can help you live your most fulfilled life.
Thank you, @DrSarah: knowledge is power. I've always sought reasons & solutions but was always accused of looking for excuses. When I know with what I am working, I can better work it!
Thanks for weighing Dr. Sarah bc this was my concern.
She was already seeing a mental health professional.
@@MsGoodyTwoShoesit doesn’t make sense to me why she hasn’t gotten an official exam esp if she is seeing someone for mental health.
I’m ADHD. She comes off as ADHD impulsive hyperactive. I totally relate to her. I see this as a disability discrimination case.
So Shannon’s question: “Have you been clinically diagnosed?” Was valid.
It was; so was his question as to whether her dad was truly autistic or just her assumption.
It was valid. They’re having a conversation. She brought it up, so someone is allowed to dive deeper into the conversation to gain more clarity, validity, and information.
I believe it was a valid question but the fact that he asked that meant that he didn't believe her to begin with. Which kind of brings us back to him undermining a lot of what she said the entire episode. People keep bringing up cancer and how you can't self diagnose that. Well if someone came up and told you that they had cancer you wouldn't be like "and a doctor clinically diagnosed you with that" would you?
I believe that Amanda was feeling like he was belittling her and undermining everything that she was saying and she probably just got nervous and wanted to get away from that part of a conversation as unscathed as possible. Rejection sensitivity is a real thing.
@@PressPowerPlay Not believing someone isn't necessarily undermining someone. Sometimes people can sense bullshit. I sensed her bullshit from the start. A complete narcissist. Furthemore, Asperger's and cancer are nowhere near in the same category. Asperger's is a disorder. Cancer is a disease. If someone tells me they have cancer, and I am sensing bullshit (yes, people do lie about cancer), I would ask questions.
It was valid but undermined when he proceeded to demonstrate he had no idea what a clinical diagnosis meant throughout the entire interview. Many NDs find that a clinical diagnosis doesn't make those committed to undermining a person stop. They move on to another point of attack in the guise of seeking understanding.
As a mother of an autistic black child. I think this is highly irresponsible on her part.
Exactly! All she had to do was say she believes she is on the spectrum 🤦🏽♀️
Same!! All of these self-diagnosis are highly irritating
COMPLETELY AGREE!
@@lisakaye3919what’s even more irritating and literally dangerous is being misdiagnosed because you’re black…. Imagine lacking the insurance to get diagnosed - what do you do next?
@@none8726she won't take any services away. If she doesn't have an official diagnosis she can't even access any of the minimal services that are available for Autistic adults.
So folks are blaming bad behavior on autism now? As a father of an autistic son this is absolutely insulting…..take accountability for your behavior and call it for what it is
So as someone on the spectrum, it can and does lead to behavioral issues, the problem is, she’s trying to use that as just a scapegoat, which is bs
@@AUDIS477 yes I understand that….trust me I know, I should of worded what I meant better but you said it in a nutshell for me which was using it as a scapegoat
Amen. Being on the spectrum shouldn't be used as a scapegoat.
@@Jahtrendz...have not "of"
Ironically, she showed everyone exactly WHY people think she's difficult 😐. Every word he said , she tried to contradict him . 🤔
Answer me this - if the tables were turned and it were someone telling Amanda that they were autistic without a clinical diagnosis would Amanda give them grace????? The answer is no. She would rip the person to shreds with big words, research and logic.
Amanda's biggest problem is that she expects grace but isnt the type extend it. Ppl like that find it exceptionally hard to hold themselves accountable.
Have you seen that real life ? Or did you just make this event she didn’t give Grace up in your mind ?
Right. Imagine a racst white person telling Amanda, “oh I made those remarks because I self diagnosed myself as autistic.” She would fly off the handle on that person
@@mmck2565 Amanda is a truth seeker and her way of reasoning doesnt leave room for naunce. She processes information in a very logical and factual way: what, when, how. She even said it in the Shannon interview (and in countless others).
You have to be a VERY open minded person to accept when a person publicly declares that they have a condition without any formal diagnosis. Amanda has consistently shown that she ISNT that type of person. So while I am being hypothetical - I honestly believe I am right on this.
Can dish it, but can't take it. Weird ppl like this I struggle to understand.
You don’t know that.
My issue with Amanda Seales:
She is now saying her autism NON diagnosis is not up for discussion. But no one would be discussing it had she not volunteered the information. The information was purposely misleading. But rather than take accountability there is more deflection and racial smokescreens. Two things can be true, the medical system can be racist, and bias against black people, particularly black women, and Amanda Seales lied about being diagnosed. 🤷🏽♀️
She gaslit EVERYONE
She's a narcissist. She wants to be able to say whatever she wants however she wants and is using "autism" as the justification. Also the diagnosis allows her to be "different" and "special" as a result. She's working this like a hustle.
She don't have to break hippa laws to prove yall wrong. Yall need to eat avocados because nutrients are missing
She only feels safe when people agree with her.
Please make what you said make sense. Break HIPPA laws on who? Herself? She volunteered the information. She started this whole discussion.
I feel like it was intentional that she led the interview with she was “diagnosed” and that it was recently. It was manipulative. She seems to struggle with accountability and I think she will get a lot further in these situations if she offers others the same grace she expects for herself
THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT IMMEDIATELY
🎯 THIS
Yes she’s very manipulative and that’s dangerous
Yes I feel she suffers from only child syndrome - not that every only child behaves like this - but you can tell she was never really held accountable for anything, it was all about her, praised a lot for being smart because she is smart. Lord knows siblings will fill in that accountability gap where parents fail to meet it
I just posted similar . She said that to cover up any faux pas she may make on the show .
I minored in psychology and one of the first things my abnormal psychology teacher told us was taking the class will make us think we have the disorders we learn about; but what defines a disorder is that it disrupts our functioning (friendships, relationships, work, etc.), Furthermore we learned about the diagnosis and treatment process. One of the most important things we learned was the differential diagnosis process. There are disorders that present with similar symptoms and there is a process by which you determine which of the multiple disorders it can be. In my mind she went looking for an autism diagnosis and made one for herself. But she does not have the proper knowledge or training to do a proper ddx. Not to mention, no one, not even a doctor can diagnose themselves with anything. She should have kept the same language and said that she believes she is on the spectrum. To be diagnosed means someone with knowledge, experience, expertise, and credentials has diagnosed you.
And a diagnosis is not a ticket to avoid accountability. An actual diagnosis comes with action - possible therapy, medication, etc. But also self awareness, better knowledge of self and how you present in the world/ how people experience you. And while we shouldn’t be people pleasers we can adapt to function better. She seems completely unwilling to do that.
All of this! it pains me as a clinician to hear influencers and armchair psychiatrists/clinicians online dabble in the business of self-diagnosis because they are often taking bad behaviors and attributing it to a group that’s already heavily stigmatized. It’s not lost on me in her self-diagnosing, Amanda went to the more appealing “high functioning” part of the ASD spectrum versus say calling herself the less sexy “sociopath” or “borderline personality disorder.” And this is why self-diagnosis is a slippery slope. People want something to blame for their troubles and to wrap their bad behavior up with a nice bow. But, rarely are they willing to a) do the inner work and correct the problem if it lies with them and b) accept the unappealing parts of treatment that don’t make them look good.
Lastly, what Amanda is doing spreading by misinformation of a $10K fee is the same thing the articles written about her said, which is she rarely wants to be wrong and finds any and every excuse for the lies she tells. Even a person who shows signs of Autism or mental health issues is capable of taking accountability.
Very well said!! Thank you
GOOD POINT!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you!
If she lied about something so serious, she would definitely lie about anything else…
That part so the whole interview she did is moot and I can’t take her serious
And has before.
She didn’t lie. Yall just don’t like her. She never said clinically diagnosed. She said diagnose. Academic studies prove that self-diagnostic tools for autism are accurate. They were developed bc everyone doesn’t have $10,000 and several moths to fight for late stage diagnoses. Yall just don’t want to like her. Just admit that or get educated.
@@moniquemichelle7295 I respect your opinion but it’s not the matter of liking her not , I don’t know her. Go back to that clip and listen to what she said. She corrected Shannon after he said you feel you may have she said she had been diagnosed , we didn’t know until later that it was a self diagnosis.
@@moniquemichelle7295 😂😂😂 Smh. Sad.
I am a mental health counselor & long time Amanda fan. Anyone can look up symptoms and self diagnose. That's one of the problems nowadays. Untrained ppl think they are Clinicians. I went through years of schooling, hours of training, licensing, learning the DSM, & continuous workshops to have the ability to diagnose. It isn't something you can ascribe to yourself because you feel you have what you read. There are many criteria that a trained professional can distinguish that a layman can't. Yes, the DSM is still evolving as the profession uncovers more about the brain & human behavior, but we are trained individuals none the less.
Gathering information & insight into oneself to gain some understanding & relief is welcomed. But Amanda not labeling that she was "self" diagnosed undermines my profession. You can't claim being diagnosed when you aren't skilled or trained to do so. That's like saying I was diagnosed with Cancer & you have never been to the doctor. Like what the what???? 😮
Thank you, I am a counselor as well and was very disturbed by her saying that. There's so much to a diagnosis, than Googling the symptoms. Also this $10,000 trope can scare people into not going to see a mental health professional or even a PC. Her degrees are not even health, let alone mental health, sooooo! I don't know why this bothered me so bad.
I feel you but it doesn't help when you go to these medical sites and THEY tell you if you have 5 or more of these traits then you're probably this or that... because It said I'm A & B clustered up lol I don't think I'm that messed up
Thank you
@@AishahBraxton my son has autism and I think it bothers you for the reason you said. The misinf can discourage others from getting the help they need. I have been bothered but this since it came out of her mouth.
So I am licensed to clinically diagnose. I find it very interesting she told Shannon she was just recently diagnosed. Also wondering where Shannon even got the info that led up to asking about her autism. Then she later admits she’s self diagnosed. Diagnoses are given by a clinical specialists and it can be harmful to assume you have something when it might be something completely different. It’s best to seek an expert so you can find ways to treat and manage the concern. It’s not fair to blame Shannon when you were not honest with the response and now feel victimized. As much as I want to sympathize her approach in this is bothersome and presents other issues.
As a clinician, can you speak to her comment that it costs $10K? It seems outlandish and if it did cost that, wouldn’t it be covered my insurance?
She brought it up pretty unprompted in the first few minutes of the interview
@QueenKunta As a person who can clinically diagnosis, here in Ohio, at least, it does not cost $10,000, and Yes insurance (private or state) if properly diagnosed does pay. Now maybe not in other states. She said she was self diagnosed so who did she pay for the proper assignment? And the proper testing can't be self diagnosed. We use DSM 5 and there are certain criteria she has to meet. She can't get the proper treatment (if needed) without a clinical write up. Anyway I'm confused about somethings she said.
There are many valid reasons that people DO NOT get an autism diagnosis. I am diagnosed as autistic and within the autistic community there is much support for those without a diagnosis. It is and should be personal choice, but it’s important to understand why people DO NOT want a diagnosis.
1. Recent studies have found that over half of people diagnosed autistic who disclosed their diagnosis to an employer report that things actually became worse for them, not better. This included discrimination, ostracism and ableism.
2. Money is a big factor when accessing a diagnosis, those not in the position to access a diagnosis should not miss out on support.
3. Autism assessments are very sexist, with assessors excluding women for wearing make up or having a boyfriend, or not being obsessed with traditionally autistic stereotypical interests like trains and history.
4. Autism evaluations are racist, noting that black autistic people are often misdiagnosed as being defiant or borderline, often ignoring sensory difficulties or social differences.
5. Eugenics is a huge one, during the height of the pandemic in the UK autistic people received an automatic Do Not Resuscitate Order. This meant if a diagnosed autistic person became unwell we would not be treated as a non autistic would. Effectively saying that our lives were less worth saving than non autistic people. This was a government policy, we are deemed less then. Studies have found that autistic people are often given less support when facing serious medical difficulties because we are considered less than.
6. Autistic parents, or families with autistic children, are often targeted by government agencies, for example being overly policed and more often having their families investigated and children removed from their care.
7. Ableism is huge, people underestimate you or treat as less than or different. This goes from systemic issues all the way to employers and family and friends.
8. There are many things that having an autism diagnosis stops you from doing, for example, if autistic Australia will not let you emigrate there. A UK professional recently had his application rejected to move there for his work due to having an autistic son. Your options become more limited.
9. Studies have been done that show when autistic people advised on their job application of their diagnosis, even with the exact same information, they were less likely to be given an interview for the job.
Whilst a diagnosis should provide you with more protections and opportunities in reality that is not the case. Also, the support and adjustments made for autistic people should be available to ALL PEOPLE. As many people may never consider themselves autistic and therefore never pursue a diagnosis. It also relies on children having parents and families that will have the knowledge, time, energy and perhaps finances to pursue a diagnosis.
If you want to know more I recommend following @drdevonprice, @neurodivergent_lou or @livedexperienceeducator, @neurowild_, @nigh.functioning.autism
You clinically diagnosed what? There are academic studies that confirm self/diagnistic tools for autism . She never said she was clinically diagnosed. She said diagnosed. And it costs $10,000 with no insurance. And the way the DSM-VI is set up to cluster symptoms that are really trauma, and most people never get better because it’s nervous system dysregulation that most doctors haven’t been trained to do; I find all of this exhausting and uninformative.
Amanda is a self proclaimed genius, leader, artist, scholar, and now woman with ASD. For me, anyone that is so sure of themselves is dangerous. She fails to take any accountability nor see another's perspective because she walks around with a sense of superiority that makes it impossible for her to do so. And she claims to be a leader, but a leader of what? Self aggrandizement and self promotion?
She has delusions of grandeur.
Could she be a narcissist?
BINGO!!!
She actually has been “diagnosed” as a genius from her with her IQ and in school.
It's perfect reasoning, one of the symptoms of autism is they are unable at times to understand or take any accountability but they do feel a great amount of remorse for their actions. But won't acknowledge it. She is obviously suffering and believes she needs to fight for herself and in many ways she does. I hope watching it back she really has an aha moment and continues to do the work.
She could’ve just said “I *believe* I’m Autistic or on the spectrum”. There was no need to *lie* and say she was diagnosed then blame Shannon for being the reason she lied when he asked if she was professionally diagnosed. Now Sista Soulja wants to attack the same black people she claims to be an advocate for because they called her out.
💯💯💯She lys then blames ppl for calling out her lys, playsvictim, says blkppl and Shannon Sharpe doesn't love her...she doesn't love or like herself.
She’s always playing victim and it’s becoming exhausting. She doesn’t take accountability and blames everyone for her actions.
She may have had a diagnosis from a primary care doctor based on answers to questions. My friend had a therapist and she answered some questions and she told her she had adult ADD. Who knows if she’s licensed to clinically diagnose her. My other friend was tested by her primary care doctor and she popped up at 50 years young with ADHD. What constitutes a “clinical” diagnosis to you may not be necessary for Amanda. My son had a primary care doctor diagnose him with ADD based off a sheet of questions filled out by his middle school teacher. Is that a clinical diagnosis? 🤷🏾♀️
That part!!^^^
@@Its_Mechele THIS. I think people don’t like her and are now just coming up with a new reason to excuse themselves for not liking her.
So I am a medical student studying to be a doctor and a neurologist told us that people can’t diagnose themselves because they will have a bias to answer what sounds like what fits that diagnosis, in fact, primary care doctors don’t even diagnose this anymore they will refer you to a neurologist or psychiatrist who will diagnose you in a way that you cannot just fill in the box of what fits a disorder, it will be more than a questionnaire
As a parent of an autistic kid exactly I know you can’t self diagnose yourself I don’t get people that don’t understand this💁🏽♀️
Sometimes due to money and bias. I can understand why ppl do this. I'm in the mental health field. Even without a clinical diagnosis of anxiety. Ppl have begun to treat their anxiety. So i don't fully agree. I will say have a team of someone with wellness information to guide you.
I also have a family who can afford a evaluation for dyslexia, but the teen really may have it. So their free tutor is going to implement strategies to help them.
@@justrashanda3662it’s a little scary how quickly some people believe anything just because it comes from a celebrity they like. Since when did people just get to diagnose themselves with conditions and we just accept that they’re right? It’s mind blowing.
@@justrashanda3662 genuine question. With your autistic child, is it obvious that something is "wrong"? All the autistic people I've ever come across, (even high functioning autism) I've noticed something was different.
@@angelab9171 it’s very scary I’m looking like are yall ok?
Prior to the interview with Shannon Sharpe, I didn’t know anything about her. I thought she was being mishandled. Well, after she attacked Shannon Sharpe post interview, I changed my mind. She’s her biggest problem.
What??? What did she say about Shannon post interview?
@@tracywilliams7575it’s in the video. She blasted him on IG saying Shannon was “interrogating” and “pressuring” her. Even though she herself chose to be on the interview. Make it make sense.
@@sydneymichelle8357 Thanks for advising, I am late seeing the question. It’s worth checking out @tracywilliams7575. It definitely changed my mind about her.
She made her character shine through loud and clear. She was buddy buddy with Shay one minute, bashing him the next. This maybe why people don't want to work with her. It unstable.
Yeah same situation with me. I watch her Club Shay Shay interview (first time ever really seeing her and hearing her talk) and I actually liked her but now I'm feeling the same way you do. Bye Amanda
This woman is a full blown narc. She outright lied and is flailing after being called out.
And now she's on a VICTIM TOUR🙈🤔. Listening to her you have to "eat the meat spit the bone" definitely a acquire taste but the gaslighting HAS TO STOP. And we have those being selectively bias on her part. What a mess.... take everyone's phone 🤔🙈😂😂😂
As someone on the spectrum, who attracts narcissists and both my parents are narcissists, i agree
And she turned it around as if Shannon Sharp was wrong by asking her follow up questions about her diagnosis. Ummm he’s conducting an interview ma’am. Follow up questions are not indicative of someone doubting the integrity of your statement. It’s just what it is a follow up question.
You really have to wonder about someone who’s tends to find conflict with others, but always points to them as being the cause.
Right….and now it’s all Shay Shay’s fault and she’s the victim 🙄
Why couldn’t she just say “I present a lot of the signs of autism but I haven’t been formally diagnosed yet” and then she could have gotten into the whole self-diagnosis spiel and advocacy on the interview.
She’s always saying something and then coming back to explain herself. I thought you spoke like an eloquent teacher coach ?
She played on words, purposefully, and is now upset that folks called her out on it. I think she’s manipulative and she was condescending during the interview. I think she also specifically chose his platform because she knew he couldn’t intellectually challenge her.
She started the interview and immediately said “I was diagnosed with autism”…. Which tells me she was using autism as a weapon to repave the image and to gain “white knights” that would spread the misinformation for her online and attack anyone who pointed out her bad behavior from then on because it would be “ABELIST” cuz she “has autism”. I have heard her talking about ableism before and she knows the social Justice weight of ableism so she pushed that button to become “untouchable” due to her having a disorder/to get protection from the ableism social Justice “activists”.
👏🏻👏🏻
@@_Ridethemaverick this!! That last part!!
In another interview, she says she did but they cut that part out.
I feel like self-diagnosis can be a dangerous road. There is a reason people go to school to be able to diagnose people. Also some people do not understand themselves enough to actually self-diagnose.
Right and I believe she is making an excuse for her behavior by saying she has that.
The lady is ridiculous
Doctors are referred to as PRACTICING PHYSICIANS. Emphasis on the practicing. They make mistakes & misdiagnose. They don't know everything.
@@g30rg3gp0rgso if doctors who have years of education make mistakes diagnosing people, why would you trust someone with no medical training could diagnose themselves properly?
I think for her as a public figure, it's irresponsible and not thought through. She has a duty of objectivity, and after self diagnosis, she needs to give the medical field a chance.
Amanda told a lie, simple. Amanda is amazingly talented, simple. The two mutually exist. At my BIG AGE, not allowing people to play in my face. Wish her well. 😌✌🏾
Thank you! I don’t know why so many people are jumping through hoops to avoid saying that. Pointing out that someone lied doesn’t mean that we don’t support all Black women.
Thank you for the common sense.
Great comment! Thank you!
THIS.
Thank you!!!! I refuse to be dumbed down. She got caught in a lie. Period.
I’m not keen on Amanda, It’s just her energy, she seems unpredictable. She’s that person who is constantly having blow ups and dramas! And she really believes that she is not the root or the cause of any of it. But I do wish her the best, it’s obvious she really wants to be accepted/embraced within the black and show business community.
I think what’s off putting about her is that while often times she may very well be the smartest person in the room, she always wants to be acknowledged as the smartest person in the room. Like she always knows something that no one else knows.
Yes! She wants folks to acknowledge how brilliance. She is looking for validation and unhappy that folks don't recognize who she is. She has a lot of work to do.
@@janemiller8658that part! She desperately wants acknowledgment
It’s giving “I watched a tiktok video called ‘6 signs you might be autistic’ and announced that as a diagnosis.” Shame on you Amanda. You don’t have autism, you have unhealed trauma and you need to log off and heal.
It's giving you don't know what you're talking about.
That’s definitely dangerous
I believe I’m on the spectrum and I believe she is too. Please shut up! The autistic community is very supportive of self diagnosed autistics. There is no gate keeping here.
Its giving that you all are only coming for her because you don't like her and you probably don't like her because of the things that come from her ASD oddly enough.
That part!
As a therapist, I am tired of self diagnosis
💯
There are many valid reasons that people DO NOT get an autism diagnosis. I am diagnosed as autistic and within the autistic community there is much support for those without a diagnosis. It is and should be personal choice, but it’s important to understand why people DO NOT want a diagnosis.
1. Recent studies have found that over half of people diagnosed autistic who disclosed their diagnosis to an employer report that things actually became worse for them, not better. This included discrimination, ostracism and ableism.
2. Money is a big factor when accessing a diagnosis, those not in the position to access a diagnosis should not miss out on support.
3. Autism assessments are very sexist, with assessors excluding women for wearing make up or having a boyfriend, or not being obsessed with traditionally autistic stereotypical interests like trains and history.
4. Autism evaluations are racist, noting that black autistic people are often misdiagnosed as being defiant or borderline, often ignoring sensory difficulties or social differences.
5. Eugenics is a huge one, during the height of the pandemic in the UK autistic people received an automatic Do Not Resuscitate Order. This meant if a diagnosed autistic person became unwell we would not be treated as a non autistic would. Effectively saying that our lives were less worth saving than non autistic people. This was a government policy, we are deemed less then. Studies have found that autistic people are often given less support when facing serious medical difficulties because we are considered less than.
6. Autistic parents, or families with autistic children, are often targeted by government agencies, for example being overly policed and more often having their families investigated and children removed from their care.
7. Ableism is huge, people underestimate you or treat as less than or different. This goes from systemic issues all the way to employers and family and friends.
8. There are many things that having an autism diagnosis stops you from doing, for example, if autistic Australia will not let you emigrate there. A UK professional recently had his application rejected to move there for his work due to having an autistic son. Your options become more limited.
9. Studies have been done that show when autistic people advised on their job application of their diagnosis, even with the exact same information, they were less likely to be given an interview for the job.
Whilst a diagnosis should provide you with more protections and opportunities in reality that is not the case. Also, the support and adjustments made for autistic people should be available to ALL PEOPLE. As many people may never consider themselves autistic and therefore never pursue a diagnosis. It also relies on children having parents and families that will have the knowledge, time, energy and perhaps finances to pursue a diagnosis.
If you want to know more I recommend following @drdevonprice, @neurodivergent_lou or @livedexperienceeducator, @neurowild_, @nigh.functioning.autism
@@beingauthentic1234some of the people you listed are problematic. Devon Price isn't even diagnosed and is very "pro- take Autism out of the DSM". I don't discount the help he's provided undiagnosed Autistic people but some of the things he says are dangerous. Lived Experience Educator is somewhat better but can also be problematic. Their book is good but there is a section of DBT that's missing in their book that would actually have been more helpful if included. ND Lou and Nigh Functioning are prolly the best accounts you listed. Some of the reasons you listed apply mostly to Autistic people with very substantial support needs **.
Money isn't an issue but for Amanda as she's a SAG member and if she went to get assessed she'd have it covered by their health insurance. Self-diagnosis on its own can be dangerous (the initial comment points out why). That's just step 1 and it should be done responsibly. It's important to work with a trained, qualified clinician to figure out what services and supports are needed.
The evaluation, the assessment and/or Autism criteria aren't sexist or racist. Some of the clinicians providing them are.
** Severity is based on social communication impairments and restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior. For either criterion, severity is described in 3 levels: Level 3 - requires very substantial support, Level 2 - Requires substantial support, and Level 1 - requires support.
Great job listing sources 👍🏽
@@beingauthentic1234 As an autistic, I understand these points, especially being a black woman myself. However stating that you are formally diagnosed and not being diagnosed by a clinician is dangerous for those who are autistic and decide not to get a formal diagnosis because despite the drawbacks, you can get special accommodations, get necessary resources and properly approach therapy. There are so many symptoms of autism that could be something else and not be autism at all.
In short, announcing self diagnosis is dangerous and can ultimately take away from the autism community
@@NiMissNi I disagree, you are entitled to your opinion, as am I. As I said, it is and should be personal choice. Obviously I chose to get diagnosed so I do not see it as always negative. However, my point is that some people cannot get a diagnosis, and that others do not pursue a diagnosis because it can be harmful and have negative consequences. So much recent research points to this, for example, a recent study that shows doctors work less on seriously injured or unwell patients if they are autistic which results in poor outcomes or even death. Or another study which showed results of over half of diagnosed autistic people reporting negative outcomes after disclosing their diagnosis to an employer and regretted doing so. As I said, you are welcome to your opinions.
Just listening to her makes me tired 🥱
So true
Very true.
Its sad rather
It's quite exhausting
It’s really dangerous to keep repeating Amanda’s lie that it cost $10,000 to be diagnosed with autism. She threw that out there when she was called out for her lie. She’s harming people, not helping by starting that narrative that it’s $10,000 to get diagnosed with autism. Do people really think Amanda doesn’t have health insurance? She’s in SAG, they have great health insurance.
She needs to keep quiet at this point. Had she medical program, she would understand the importance of keeping quiet, when autistic
@@Inprogress_of_newbeginings please elaborate
@@urmamasmamasmama depending on the social aspect of autism, often times things are said without really processing the emotional or social impact of what is said. So in terms of “being quiet”, one would have to seriously self-monitor and think through “is this comment appropriate”…which everyone should be doing but some on the spectrum have to consciously and intentionally do that
@@ahub87 thank you for explaining that to me 💜
It is very expensive. My son is on the spectrum, as told by the evaluation I have had at two schools and with therapy. We are looking to get a clinical diagnosis, but it's about 8k-10k. Fortunately, through my therapist, I was able to get in touch with a program that offers an evaluation for him through medicaid. YAI... still waiting to schedule an appointment. I have been dealing with this since he was 2, and now he is about to be 8.
Most insurance does not cover the evaluation. I had insurance and had to get off it to get medicaid for the YAI program which I only found out about when I had to get a therapist because I was having a rough time navigating my sons behavior.
What saddens me is that I as a parent , see my son and knows what he struggles with and having been told through various channels that he is but because there is yet to be a clinic, people roll their eyes.
The spectrum is truly a broad range. I understand that people might look to it and use it as an excuse when they are not, but for those who are, it only hurts more when people question what they struggle with.
You don't need to pay $10k for diagnosis when you have insurance, that includes government issued insurance like Medicare/Medicaid 🤦🏽♀️I really want her to stop trying to be the voice of the people and she doesn't know what she is talking about.
She most likely doesn't qualify for the types of insurance you're talking about due to income. The more you make, the less aid you get. I've been semi higher income and lower income, so it's a huge difference.
Some people i know make too much for things like "Obama care" and they're just regular folk, with higher salaries. So you pay moreso out of pocket for the insurance AND the tests etc. ESPECIALLY when you make a higher income but are not in a traditional job, where they may cover most if not all of the monthly premium.
I have a feeling she does too well to qualify for any assistance but not well enough where it's a "money ain't a thing" scenario. I also think it's a bit deeper than finances. But that's my two cents
@@Yespls888She’s in SAG. They have always had great health insurance. Amanda lied.
@@Yespls888 you yapping just like her. She not autistic she just stuck up her own a$$. Shes a product of a home with no real authority figure. she says it multiple times on interview. Her mom let her be "herself" which probably means she did not correct her properly as child.
I’m finding it hard to believe she doesn’t have insurance as well. It’s also a little off-putting that she would specifically say she was diagnosed when she knew it was a self-diagnosis and a medical professional had not signed off on it. I try with her, but her need to be the smartest person in the room at all times (even without the credentials to prove it) might be a part of the reason some people have an issue with her. IJS
@@Yespls888 Ma'am private insurance covers diagnosis. Did you read my post?🤦🏽♀️ EVERYONE can have private insurance if they pay for it🤦🏽♀️
My son was diagnosed to be on the Autism spectrum and I never paid $10,000. Stop repeating her lies.
This guy might have a personal relationship with Amanda cuz he usually is very suspicious of celebs but here is laying groundwater for her.
Autism is too deep and too life-changing of an issue to just be throwing the term around without an official diagnosis.
It's so very close to people who have lied about having cancer that it's disturbing.
It's really not wtf 😂
Exactly. She lied about having a neurological condition/aka autism. That’s in the same hall park as cancer in my opinion.
@@culturalresponse2447 you can't be serious, you can't die from autism, but cancer for many people is a death sentence. It's NOT the same thing.
@@culturalresponse2447as someone who is diagnosed autistic your words are incredibly hurtful. Cancer is not the same as being autistic. Autism is a varying neurology to the expected of being neurotypical, it is not cancer and that comparison is gross.
@@beingauthentic1234it’s not necessarily a comparison to cancer. It’s the comparison of a serious medically recognized condition that can require intervention, treatment, special services and even provides certain access to resources- based on a clinical DIAGNOSIS.
The two are nothing alike. But toxic people will LIE about having either simply to garner sympathy, to explain away their own bad behavior or to emotionally manipulate others. Folks might excuse away a lie about having ASD but would be horrified to know someone lied about having cervical cancer, for example. When both lies are unnecessary, outrageous and harmful
I like Amanda in small doses to use the title of her podcast... she's super intelligent and funny....but her need to be "right" about everything .
Has she ever said she had a need to be right or is that how you perceive her self-assurance and literal legitimate knowledge as a threat of some sort to yourself.. do you feel you lack that about your self maybe?
She even spoke about exactly what you just tried doing within this comment.
Even though you claim (and probably do) like her, it unfortunately doesn’t out weigh the lack you feel of yourself when met with her. Thats not her problem.
Well wishes to you.
@@mmck2565🙄
@@mmck2565And it's funny because Amanda and her supporters, such as yourself, use the same tactics to muddy the waters of respect and courteousness when being challenged in basic social interactions and disagreements.
She fell apart at a mere slight challenge to her superiority... SMH
You all WEAPONIZE your own perceived "self assurance and literal legitimate knowledge" in an attempt to mask your arrogant nature and lack of self awareness. I used to be the same way; it's off-putting.
You just attacked a person whose comment was considerate and only slightly critical.
That says it all.
If she doesn't desire to change the things people don't like about her, then she should stop crying about not being invited into spaces with people who have expressed the things they don't like. It's fine to not want to change and just live and be how you are and stand firmly in it, but then why come crying on the internet?
Say it again‼️
Agreed!!!! If she is not bothered. Then stop presenting as bothered.
This!!
Narcissistic that's why
@@perdybirdie could be complete lack of self awareness as well. But idk … im kinda on the fence with this.
I got $5 on Tamar Braxton will claim she’s on the spectrum as well. They both are exactly the same - always claiming to be the victim and everyone but them is the problem.
Now see how you diagnosed them without a degree or clinical study? It's called paying attention to the signs something not quite right. Black people have no compassion anymore, even when we see something just not all the way right.
Use your heart not your caucasian inspired opinions.
Yep... throw in Monique too
😂 po Tamar caught a stray from left field😂
Lmfaoooooooooo and tyrese
Omg! I love the Kempire Community. The comments here are so real!
On Shannon’s page, most ppl that I saw were to rocking with Amanda and I was shocked.
I feel like she is her biggest issue and I hope she finds solutions on how to better interact with others.
I’m a black clinician and mental health is honestly one of the fields where there are a variety of black providers. In addition, a lot of black clients request to work specifically with black providers. Self-diagnosing is not helpful because there are a lot of symptoms that appear in other mental disorders, mimicking similarities. It is also important to take in consideration all the factors that may contribute to the person’s symptoms…..including ruling out any medical or substance use history that can change behaviors. Without that knowledge, it can lead people down a rabbit hole of convincing themselves that they may have one specific disorder. In addition, diagnosing comes from what the person is reporting as symptoms. This is not to say that Amanda may/may not have Autism, it’s just not helpful to self-diagnose without the full understanding of recognizing what criteria classifies as certain disorders.
Well-stated 🎯 I wish I had seen a Black clinician during my assessment but the only one in my area that I had access to was booked for months to maybe two years out. I was eventually assessed by an experienced clinician which wasn't easy to find but at least it happened so I could access the support and services I needed. Thank you for sharing your comment 🩷
@@rahbeeuh absolutely 🫶🏾 I’m glad you got your answers and supportive services.
@@rahbeeuh absolutely 🫶🏾 I’m glad you got your answers and supportive services
Autism isn’t a mental disorder, it is a neurotype.
So she ACTIVELY LIED about being diagnosed. Sighhhhh.... she ruined her own redemption.
🎯 she has the funds to get diagnosed. Pretty sure there are payment options !
Women, especially women of color, have an extremely difficult time/experience in getting an actual autism diagnosis. Nobody knows their body and mind better than themselves. Give her some grace people.
not really. her therapist could have or she may have read, spoke to her therapist and self diagnosed. She never said she was clinically diagnosed.
@@teedee643 that’s the problem, she should have stated she was self diagnosed.
@@teedee643 from what I understand, there needs to be an evaluation by a specialist in order to receive an official dx. A therapist cannot do that.
Iyanla said it best: Your delivery can diminish your message. So If she is doing the work, especially as a black woman like me, and wants to be understood and heard, you have to make it palatable. Even if someone comes at Amanda in the wrong tone, she will focus on that and not the message. It’s something we all need to learn as humans. I also say te: the autism diagnosis, she knows what traits resonate with her; who am I to speak on it. However clinicians are the ones who came up with the spectrum …so relying on them to diagnose you is kinda the way to go if that is what you are relying your self diagnosis on. If not, why rely in any of their studies only when it suits you. That can be a dangerous road to tread. Its kinda speaking in circles. However l, it’s her body and health and she knows what is best for her. All in all, she does lack accountability to a huge degree we all do to some degreee, but I like her more than not.
EXACTLY!!!!!! Her delivery is inconsiderate and she doesn’t know how to read the room. You can STILL speak your TRUTH with a respectful delivery but Amanda is unapologetically abrasive but wonder why no one likes her for so many years. It’s been going on from Floetry to 2024 or was it when she lived in Florida when she had a misunderstanding with her first grade teacher. To be so educated/intelligent I’m beginning to think she lacks common sense or like she said she has no desires to changing knowing that she’s the problem why people don’t like her, like girl bye 🤦🏾♀️
Perfectly said tee dee
@@sgriffiths0280she can't read the room because of ASD. She can't pick up on the social cues.
She don't like black people especially black men Just listen to her Didn't she get fired from a major TV station now she wants to be accepted by black people😅
I'm shocked she ruined her redemption in less than 24 hrs! Of course, this will be someone else's fault as well!
There are videos of former assistants and interns telling their story and explaining exactly why they feel like Amanda is full of shit. You should give them a watch.
Where can we find them?👀
It’s so obvious she has emotional/mental issues. Not judging cause we all have something but it’s crazy people believe everything she says.
@@lovingmeafterwe
Cdiggi1 has a video about his experience as Amanda's assistant.
Well will you be linking that at any point miss ?👀
Everyone is hating, she’s just enlightened! Jk
I don’t know much about Amanda but now after watching the interview I can see why people don’t fool with her.
Well, I decided to stop following her 2 years ago. She talks too much for me or used to many words to explain a topic. These types of personalities drains my energy.
You drain my energy 🥴
Neurotypicals communicate in sentences while Autistics communicate in paragraphs. Google it if you don't believe me.
@@marioicon 🤣
Yesterday, I liked Amanda Seales.
Today, I'm over her.
I refused to watch the interview and I was already suspicious about the praise she was receiving. She's been known to lie about important things that are easily disproven, so she gets a permanent side eye from me. Can't believe she pulled the same stunt I already didn't like her for.
We tried to tell yll she's problematic, but yll refuse to believe
SAME! Well, I became empathetic towards her especially once I watched Kempire’s previous show about her. I did see things from her point of view. But as usual, she comes with the victim shit. She takes no accountability and that’s what she, Tamar, and MoNique all have in common. They never want to take ownership of anything.
😂😂😂 it’s swings and roundabouts
I’m tired of her
I am so tired of Amanda 🙄 she’s so draining. Just like Monique…. It’s always drama and never ending
I was JUST saying she is just like Monique! Exhausting.
As exhausting as it may have been to a lot of people, Monique was telling the truth about the precious thing. Don't leave that out. A lie is always more entertaining than the truth. That's why so many people do it.
she's a disgruntled failed comedian. but because her comedy career did not take off, everyone else is the problem. face it, she's not funny. and not being funny isn't a crime
@@realityqueen3173 That seems like a bold assessment since you don't know her. She's definitely disgruntled, she is pretty vocal about that. I just find it a bit ridiculous how many people, especially black women are so willing to make stabs in the dark about a persons character that we don't know, based on someone else's assessment that we also don't know.
This comment makes sense for you, lmao. You don't like it when people stick up for themselves, and then you call it drama when they do. What a dumb way to put it
This is bullsh*t! It's very self centered of her to downplay professional diagnosis of autism...I know parents with children who are autistic and the passion, selflessness and struggles that they have on a daily basis i highly respect and refuses to listen to someone speaking out of ego when it comes to something serious...Just when i was getting a better understanding of her she goes on saying these ignorant things...Amanda will never take accountability and LISTEN to understand...Im done with her...Next!
She listens to respond. She's always the smartest one in the room. It's quite exhausting
@kaysammy6730 Exactly! Now she's coming off as if she's smarter than a trained medical professional saying: "we are programmed to concerned things in one kind of way" She's so egotistic...I would assumed there're more to diagnosing ASD than answering questions on a questionnaire...
@@kaysammy6730And there lies the problem, she thinks she's brighter and smarter than everybody else 🙄
Given how fast she flipped on Mr. Sharp after ending on a good note, she is difficult to work with and please. I won’t let her demeanor be a representation of me and other black women.
Which means she knows she's the problem 🤔
So if you assert "I was just recently diagnosed" how then do you come back and say I've never been diagnosed. Did you actually mean "I recently self diagnosed myself as ASD." As a lover of words and their impact, she intentionally misrepresented her situation.
Amanda manipulated the situation.
Exactly!!! It was intentional.
She's the one who's pushing the "they hate me" narrative. In her mind, someone is always doing her wrong and she tries to persuade, and force feed her audience with name dropping and blackity black message at every turn. She says she's deliberate and unwavering. What is more deliberate and unwavering than someone telling you they didn't let you into a party because They-Don't- Like-You? The dunning-kruger effect is at play here. For someone so "educated" and "intelligent" she should know how to find the tools to maneuver through the community she's trying so desperately to be part of. Autism ain't got nothing to do with this.
BINGO‼️
Yep. She’s always the victim and I don’t trust her tbh.
idk it just seems very judgmental and disingenuous to be so quick to write off her experience KNOWING she’s not all the way there. 2 things can be true at the same time: yes she’s good w her words but that doesn’t absolve her of knowing everything and how to handle every situation, esp as a BW on the spectrum. I wish we gave more grace to our own ppl.
Your comment and most of the others in this thread prove the “they hate me” narrative is out there and thriving without her “pushing” anything.
Mind you we only know that she falls out with people where ever she works is because she is the one informing us. People are not creating that narrative she is literally telling us why all of her gigs fall through.
and this is why people dont like Amanda. Instead of just saying that she as wrong or made a mistake, she proceeds to TEACH us lowly peons a lesson. Who in their right minds are is going to want to constantly be around this? She KNOWS why people dont like her and said she wont change, then WHAT is the issue?? She's free to keep being herself and people are free to respond to her as they see fit
Yea! She is giving Jussie Smolett vibes!
She doesn't have a clinical diagnosis. Lawd.
Most black people don’t……… I wish she would’ve focused on that after seeing the feedback she’s getting. I didn’t realize how many of us were unaware of this until reading recent comments about this interview
@@taylornewman9405exactly. I’m so exhausted by the lack of education. Self-diagnostic tools for autism have academic studies that support accuracy. For most late stage diagnoses, a clinical official diagnosis that takes several months and costs $10,000 isn’t necessary. It’s more importance for children for support. People just want to hate her tho, apparently it’s a favorite pastime.
@@taylornewman9405 maybe it's because of lack of health insurance. I would someone her caliber could afford health insurance but maybe not
And what will a clinical diagnosis do for a woman who is 40?
@@UnpopularCharisma that’s a good question… I would think at that point it’s more of a personal matter. It would still be beneficial but is it worth it by then…?
As a person with autistic relatives her reasons why she thought she was autistic didn't make sense to me. She could be on the spectrum but I doubt it.
She kept saying how she's a straight shooter and that's one of the reasons folks dislike her. She did just the opposite when Shannon asked a simple question. Instead of saying NO or I don't want to answer she played dumb acting like he asked her if there is a diagnosis for autism😏😏.
As someone who also believes I’m on the spectrum it made perfect sense to me. Having relatives who are autistic and actually being autistic are 2 different things. Of course you don’t get it, you don’t understand autism, you don’t live it. Autisms are oftentimes misunderstood by people like you 😂
@@UnpopularCharisma do you really think I don't know there is a differnce between being on the spectrum and having relatives on the spectrum. I was giving my opinion based on livimg with and being around autistic people. Simply giving my opinion just like you are giving yours and Amanda gave hers. Opinions are just that and they differ. You BELIEVE you are on the spectrum someone else may not believe you are. I stated she could be on the spectrum, meaning it's not impossible but I doubt she is. You believe you are on the spectrum based on certain things & I doubt she is on the spectrum based on certain things. 🤷🏾♀️But thank you for your comment.
I think she has a personality disorder, as most people who surround that kind of person feel like they are going crazy. She doesn't act like she is on the spectrum. Around people on the spectrum, people can feel crazy or they feel the person's awkward weirdness, but you know the person is incapable and can't help it, because there is a developmental issue going on. The personality disorders are more manipulative and delusional.
With someone who agrees with a lot of what Amanda says, it's not what she says it's how she says it. For example on the real how she constantly cut off her co-host. Even the way she handled the situation of at the black Emmy party. If you are told to leave just go. Like? Am I missing something. It's like she lacks accountability for any criticism she gets.
Yes, you missed something!! She spoke about it in the interview!! You should watch the full interview...🤔
Yes, if someone states you're not on the list, either talk directly to the host (Jesse) or leave and speak to him later. It's an annual party, come back next year. She can also host her own parties.
@@tracyelogan7297 I watched the whole interview and I watched when she went live about the situation. Even if people around her told her to stay. She was told the host wanted her to leave. She should have just left.
Do you remember that episode where Loni started crying about "food deserts?" Amanda had no grace, concern or understanding for Loni and her experience.And then went on IG live and laughed about it. Amanda's facial expressions were funny but that moment, to me encapsulates the issue ppl have w/her. She demands respect and expects grace, understanding and protection but doesn't give it. I used to be a fan and actually went to her Smart Funny and Black show but after witnessing different interactions at that show and online, I fell back and root for her from afar. I think she really needs a break from the innanets, therapy, a vacation and love from real people.
@TXBornNBred I totally agree. She was not a good fit for the real. I was excited when it was announced that she was joining the show. That completely changed once I saw how she interacted with the other host. She also managed to bring topic back to race.
If she didn't care what anyone thought of her self-diagnosed autism then she shouldn't have bothered to bring it up smh. Idk why she feels the need to constantly defend.
4:05 A couple of things I noticed from the radio show clip. She has this mindset that her flaws are also her strengths. Her greatest flaw is that she’s too great.
She missed the point, that people don’t like her for many reasons. And it's not a tone thing. And she also feels that a lot of her experiences are only unique to her and that’s also not true.
And one last thing, her negative thoughts are actually thoughts of accountability. I think it is rare for her to think that maybe another person might be right. And there is an old saying that the wisest people realize they don’t know everything and learning never stops. And she did talk down to Shannon, even though he is much older than her and far more successful than her. But her ego won’t let her see that reality.
Amanda: “I can see why people don’t like me. But I don’t have any desires to change those things about me.”
You would be a damn fool to support this woman with her knowing that she’s the problem but have NO DESIRES of changing. Her supporters are the problem as well. They are enabling her and feeding her HUGE ego 🤦🏾♀️ The interview on Club Shay Shay was exhausting and overwhelming to watch
You would think it was rocket science to not see through her shenanigans lol
Yup
Why would you change things about you just because people don't like you?...Are you dumb? People dislike people for the dumbest reasons, success ALONE attracts hate, in your words "you would be a damn fool" to do that. There's either a valid reason to have an issue with someone or there isn't, just dislike doesn't cut it, your comment was pointless
Why should she change for people to just like her. Like that's not my job to change who I am to suit your particular liking. If I love who I am and I love things about myself why should I change that part of myself just because someone does not it?
@@honeydip820 Then she should not complain about it. We all have flaws. Amanda can’t seem to acknowledge that she has any. According to her, the “flaws” she has are a gift and the only “flaw” she has is being too nice to others. Being too nice is not a character flaw. It’s a cop out to make excuses to why you respond negatively to every person who doesn’t give you the energy you expect.
You do yourself a disservice by not actively working on them especially if they’re affecting interpersonal relationships. The problem with Amanda is she craves acceptance, knows why people don’t like her, but is not willing to do the inside work to - not conform to others ideas of who she should be, but be mindful that her communication style is not necessary for every situation. She may mean well, but if she’s as self aware as she thinks she is, she would know how to make changes internally without changing who she is.
What she said in her reaction is something I JUST typed in another comment section. In summary I said that I used to be Amanda Seales. Meaning that I’ve always been confident in my intellectual and intuitive strengths, BUT I had to learn how to share them with more couth, grace and greater strategy. I’ve had to learn that my perspective (though it is very strong and LOUD) is not the only perspective that matters. I’ve made significant improvements in communication WITHOUT losing myself. And Amanda can do the same thing and NOT lose HERself, but I don’t think she sees change as a requirement. She just said it there in that clip you showed (in a nutshell).
Finally, as a mental health professional myself, you cannot diagnose YOURSELF. lol it’s just not possible or ethical.
She has so many personalities in her head that she should just pick one.
😂😂😂
I think she uses autism as a scapegoat to make an excuse for how she comes at folks. To be honest, this was a great interview... But she ruined it for me after the fact when she shitted on Shannon after the fact, claiming he was different with her than with his other guests. Shannon had nothing but great things to say about her in his night cap with Ocho. Seeing how she moved after the fact, it makes me understand why people place the difficult label on her.
This is why having a professional Dx someone is so important. A lot of these Dx are not just examples of certain behaviors ie OCD tendencies, ADHD tendencies, having an aversions to noises, smells, etc. because if that were the case we would all fall under that umbrella. It is much more nuanced than that and while she may have some behaviors that fall under the umbrella doesn’t mean she has autism.
I think it's hilarious how Amanda Seales ruined her own redemption in the eyes of the public less than 12 hrs after her interview dropped; and she did it HERSELF 😂
Mo'Nique did the same thing, but at least it took like a week or so. Basically, you have a poloraizing figure go onto Club Shay Shay to speak their truth. From there, most of the people who didn't like that particular person begins to change their stances. However, that person's true colors come on contradicting the persona they had during the viral interview and the public turns on them again.
In Mo'Nique's case, the facade was shattered once the drama with her son became the public topic of discussion. In Amanda's case, any good will that people had for her went out the window due to her lie of omission regarding her 'diagnosis.'
She's pretty to look at but exhausting to listen to...
I agree.
pretty to look at is so dumb and misogynistic to say .she might be a liar but she has more to her than her looks
I agree that the narrative is harmful. She has also ignited a stigma around Issa Rae as being hard to work for based off of her isolated experience. We have also not heard the other side of any of these stories, so while I can understand her plight, I know that there are always three sides of the story.
The issue with self-diagnosing is Autism can mimic other conditions/ disorders, like ADHD, schizophrenia or anti-social personality disorder. There may also be dual-diagnoses to consider.
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Autism doesn’t mimic schizophrenia at all. Typically people are misdiagnosed with PTSD or borderline personality disorder not schizophrenia.
I was going to say the same thing @@UnpopularCharisma, those are too far apart
@@UnpopularCharisma Autism and schizophrenia have overlapping symptoms, like communication difficulties, social withdrawals, and behavioral issues. Misdiagnosis is possible.
Amanda being called difficult does not affect black women it affects Amanda😂
She said it herself “don’t speak on what you don’t know”. And she’s absolutely correct. The same way none of us can speak on whether or not Amanda has autism, she can’t either. She’s simply unqualified to diagnose herself and she should use all the means and resources afforded to her to get a proper diagnosis from someone who knows what they’re talking about.
I also take great issue with celebrity “activists” co opting poverty. Even if it does cost $10k (which it doesn’t) Amanda definitely had the means to get diagnosed and get whatever treatment or support she needs. She is worth an estimated $6M, she is not one of us.
I have always rooted for her, which isn't always easy as a heterosexual blk male. But after that interview & the fake diagnosis, im over it. I hate the word narcissist & i never use it, but for the first time, i think it applies here. 🤦🏿♂️
Because it's is so difficult and takes many evaluations to get an autism diagnosis is precisely why we should not be self-diagnosing as autistic. Amanda has a tendency to always make herself out to be the victim and never once admits to any wrongdoing. Shannon asked her directly whether she had been diagnosed, she said yes. That is deceptive. Also, Kempire, the narrative that "everyone hates Amanda" is one that is constantly forwarded by Amanda herself; it's a useful narrative for her. We can support her, acknowledge her brilliance and still be honest about her questionable behavior.
From my experience the test doesn’t cost $10k and the process takes years. But I feel her smart a$$ dropped the ball on shining a light on Autism… with that she could of chosen to not speak on it on the show. To speak on Autistic behavior and hide your hands later saying “It’s none of your business” Cries I need your pity. I will lie to get it.
I believe she talked more about it with Shannon but parts of it were cut from the interview.
@@NeurodivergentNegress she stated that she watched the show afterwards, she NEVER spoke of cut outs. With her Intellect would have expected her to point that out? Not the basic Audience outsmarting her. (Sarcasm)
So she watched her own interview and said she gets why people don’t like her because of how she comes across. Then explains it. However she doesn’t understand why some people don’t like her?
She didn’t say that. She said she understands why people don’t like her and it’s because SHE IS SO SPECIAL, and so outspoken blah blah, pick-me rant, blah blah.
@@culturalresponse2447 I saw videos that she posted implying she didn’t understand why she wasn’t “liked”. This is not a direct quote I am summarizing. I’m just saying that she rubs people the wrong way and she acknowledges that. So I’m sure she has done so to those in the industry and that is why she’s not invited to events. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong but it is the consequence of her type of personality. If you love her that’s great. Many people do and others don’t. It’s life.
Amanda has unresolved issues with her father that, from personal experience, created trauma and drama in my life. Amanda, I am saying this from a place of love, until you heal this area of your life, everything will seem out of balance. I USED TO BE HER SO I MEAN NO DISRESPECT. I lacked personally accountability SO badly and the ability to take an introspective look at SELF and make the needed adjustments. My Dad and I had to do the ugly work of forgiving and HEALING together. ❤
Wow, Kempire you really tried to save her with this update.
As a Therapist in Training, it is very imperative to have a clinical mental health diagnosis from a clinical mental health practitioner. A lot of these mental health disorders can cross over, and a DSM 5 or higher is required to clinically meet the diagnosis. Said with love.
A therapist in training huh? If that’s the case you’d know autism isn’t a mental illness. IT IS A NEUROTYPE!
There is a reason why formal medical diagnosis exists to make sure one is properly diagnosed. Amanda can say she is autistic but, googling symptoms and making an armchair diagnosis is foolish.
Autism isn’t a medical condition though. Its not even a mental
Illness. It’s a neurotype. Simply saying you’re autistic is like saying you’re introverted.
Googling symptoms? Chile Autism doesn’t have symptoms, THEY ARE TRAITS like character traits. OMG you people are so uneducated on Autism 🤦🏾♀️
@UnpopularCharisma Autism is in the Diagnostic Manuel for Mental Health Disorders all 5 versions. It is normally diagnosed by mental health professionals or medical doctors. Nobody in the right mind would use Google to self diagnose a mental health or medical condition.
@UnpopularCharisma My grandson is nonverbal autistic and my daughter was diagnosed as autistic only to start talking and at age 22 has 4 college degrees and works as a teacher. So don't tell me I know nothing about autism. Because assuming things you don't know, you just made an azz out of yourself. Goodmorning, by the way.
Interesting perspective on your part K...I appreciate your delivery w/o judgement. Much respect for that.
I genuinely love Amanda seales but if someone says they have diabetes but it wasn't diagnosed by a doctor, how do you take that. I think it's one thing to say I feel like I have this based on this this this. It's another to say you were diagnosed with it. only licensed professionals can diagnose. Wrong word choice cause she didnt say it was a self diagnosis in club shay shay.
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Autism isn’t a disease like diabetes which is life threatening. Autism is not and it is a neurotype. You’re comparing apples to oranges. If someone says they’re depressed do you ask if they’ve been clinically diagnosed?
@@UnpopularCharisma I never said it was so please don't come in here and bring any negativity. I work with kids on the spectrum. I'm actually a clinician so, I do ask. Autism, depression, diabetes are ALL medical conditions protected under ADA laws.
@UnpopularCharisma I don't think the original commenter claiming Austism is a disease like diabetes but as an example when people think they have symptoms of a condition. Oh, and when a person says they think they're depressed I do ask if they've been to a doctor. Because I've had a diagnosis of clinical depression (after I Googled symptoms and took my ass to a doctor, got meds and got better, so I'm speaking from experience.
As someone who likes Amanda, attended her shows and bought her book, she isn't above criticism. Because of her past behavior, she needs a clinical diagnosis because it looks like she's using Autism as an excuse for her behavior/ wall to prevent criticism. Amanda has a great knowledge of words and "speaking in cursive" so she knows exactly what she's doing. I know assholes who have cancer, paralysis, etc, and they're still assholes and others who have great personalities.
Too many people use random terms because it's popular, e.g., narcissistic, trauma-bond, and use it incorrectly.
@@K0b2281 I don't understand why some of these comments are filled with such vituperation. Like??? Can we not? I'm AuDHD (Autistic with ADHD) and I wish I'd have looked more into the link that exists between diabetes and ADHD as well as the one that exists between diabetes and autism. I just didn't know there was one. I hope you'll look more into it as a clinician. I think your initial comment makes sense. However, the stigma that comes with diabetes seems to supersede that which is attached to autism. That's likely why it's kinda unheard of to come across a self-diagnosed diabetic. The other comment stated Autism isn't life-threatening but it could be. If both conditions go without proper diagnosis and supports in place they very well could be life-threatening. I noticed many self-diagnosed autistic people don't see autism the way those of us with moderate to high support needs do. It's very frustrating sometimes.
Oh no...she has no idea what she's talking about. She needs a diagnosis. RN here for 30 years and specialist in autism. Treatment is targeted from your diagnosis. I want the best for all humans. A diagnosis would benefit her. She's always been exhausting to me
Let me guess you advocate for ABA therapy which is the only treatment recommended for Autism which basically trains children to behave like neurotypicals using technique similar to training dogs? If you really knew about Autism like actually lived as an Autistic you’d know that treatment is looked down upon. We advocate for ACCEPTANCE NOT TREATMENT!
Btw a diagnosis would not benefit her at all as an adult. Adults who typically get diagnosed are simply doing it for validation and clarity not treatment 🤦🏾♀️
I suspect to be on the spectrum. I am getting diagnosed simply for answers. I have learned that there are no resources for adults and even disclosing your diagnosis with your employer can get you fired. As you can see disclosing for her didn’t work out to well.
Thank you for covering this, Kempire. ♥️
Amanda Seales perpetuates the narrative that people don’t like Amanda Seales. She talks about it more than anyone else. Bless it.
As she attacks Shannon 🙄
Thank You Kempire Great commentary!
Thank you Kempire for shows. I love to hear your commentary it's very educational, informative and entertaining ❤❤
My 50 year old sister has recently been diagnosed with ADHD, we knew she was dyslexic but she was diagnosed with another disorder. My friend Stacey was diagnosed with Adult ADD thanks to therapy she got the information. It has helped her navigate her depression and manage her moods better. My son has a learning difference (I refuse to say disability) and if he were not a 90’s child they would say he was/is on the spectrum. We just spoke about his situation after he watched Amanda on Club Shay Shay. Whether you like her or not, her mentioning her being autistic has started a lot of conversations that needed to be had.
Self “diagnosis” is not VALID because the only way to get diagnosed is through a licensed specialist. It is not possible to be “diagnosed” by your own self. Words have meanings!
Informed self-diagnosis is step 1. It should never be the only step bc there's a possibility the layperson's wrong. It could be sum'n else from what they thought it was and a qualified clinician will be able to piece together what's actually going on. People are prone to bias which is why it's important to get an outside professional to validate a diagnosis. Ideally everyone would have access to required care and supports but that's not the case. Amanda has access yet chooses not to utilize it. That's irresponsible. Especially for someone with a following as big as hers.
@@rahbeeuhI agree, self diagnosis is step 1. You have to suspect it to go to the doctor. Self diagnosis is actually accepted in the Autistic community so I find it funny Allistics such as yourself and others take issue with this when it’s not an issue with actual Autistics. As someone who suspects to be on the spectrum myself I do believe she shouldn’t have said anything unless she had an actual diagnosis. I have only spoken about it online or with others in the community who have been very supportive. I knew people wouldn’t believe her because most of y’all don’t really know what Autism is. Y’all are in the comments talking like Autism is a disease when it is not. It’s not even a mental illness, it is a neurotype. If it was a disease or mental illness, don’t you think it would be medication for it? The only “treatment” is ABA therapy which essentially trains Autistics to act like “normal people” or to mask their traits (something I learned on my own) which is detrimental to our mental health. Autistics look down on ABA or treatment. We advocate for acceptance!
@@UnpopularCharisma you didn't just call me allistic 😭 I was clinically diagnosed with ADHD like 20+ years ago which precluded an Autism diagnosis so I had to wait until after 2013 when the DSM-5 allowed for co-occurring ADHD and ASD diagnoses. Eventually I was clinically diagnosed with Autism (Level 2 - requires substantial support) years after that. I am not against informed self-diagnosis at all so idk where in my comment led to that conclusion. The Autistic community you mentioned exists both online and offline. You'll never know what the consensus is for those who are offline unless you interact with them. Some of them are too busy tryna learn sign language or access effective accessibility tools like AAC to be concerned about self-diagnosis. I actually agree that Amanda shouldn't have said anything unless she was willing to disclose she was self-diagnosed.
While I nor anyone else owe others an explanation here goes a snippet: I have always struggled with speech and still do, I prefer text & before that writing, I used to have harmful stims that led some people to believe I was possessed, my thermoregulation is so off I have no idea how to dress for what my body temps will be like, there are times I've disrupted quiet spaces bc I was so cold that my teeth chattered uncontrollably, I have to shower sitting in a chair bc without it I could hurt myself, I have to have premade food bc cooking is dangerous for me, I have to wear ear defenders in public even if they cause me a bit of pain bc the pain that comes with high volumes hurt way more, I don't like the earbuds as they don't feel right, I watch everything with CCs on so I can process, I have passed out in public due to certain vitamins in my body dropping for reasons unbeknownst to me, my life is not made easier due to being AuDHD (Autistic with ADHD) so it's incredibly hurtful that you'd make an assumption in the way you did just bc my vast understanding of autism doesn't match the social model so often parroted. I know what autism is to me and I understand it's different for every Autistic person but for you to go around makin' the assumptions you have is not okay. Please be better about it in the future.
Also, who said Autism was a disease? Certainly not me! I'm pretty adamant about it not being referred to as a disease. Yes, it's a neurotype but it is also a disorder. I know people have their issues with that word (disorder) but autism DOES impair life in one way or another otherwise why even self-identify in the first place?
ABA is not the only treatment for Autism. Speech therapy, DBT, physical therapy, and some others I'm forgetting atm are other treatments. Also, all ABA is not training Autistics to be "normal people" . I used to believe the same thing but that way of treatment was more heavily applied in the past. Yes, there are still some practitioners who still go by the old practices (highly problematic) but there are some improvements in ABA. Like it's helpful for Autistic folks who have self-harmful stims like headbanging to receive ABA. The old practices were to do 40 hours of ABA per week but now it's more like 10 hours. No need to turn it into a full-time job.
Anyhoo, again I don't have an issue with informed self-diagnosis. My issue in this particular situation is that instead of stating, "I recently self-diagnosed my Autism" she chose not to disclose the self-diagnosed part until later. All that she said in her IG live could've been similarly stated in the podcast interview. There was a real missed opportunity to discuss aspects of what goes into informed self-diagnosis, the barriers to clinical diagnosis, the stigma still attached to autism, etc but NOPE. AND during Autism Awareness/Acceptance Month no less.
It's funny how I supposedly don't know what autism is tho. For such a comment to come from another Black woman really stings.
I am so glad she spoke on this. So many of us found it relatable. We often feel misunderstood because we don't follow the majority. When she spoke on how she was treated in school and workplaces, I felt seen. So many people are intimidated by confidence, and they are afraid to admit it. So instead, they try to make you a villian, when all along, you just want to help and not be misunderstood. Many of 80's babies are on the spectrum, and never got the proper diagnosis.
As a counseling professional, I have new clients that come self-diagnosed thanks to the internet. I will say this, Amanda is not your "typical" person on the spectrum. ADHD, yes, but you can't say you gave a diagnosis until you sit down with a counseling professional for an hour and be formally assessed. Until then, Amanda should say ASD needs to be "ruled out."
Of course she’s not your typical person on the spectrum which is why she wasn’t diagnosed as a child like many women and girls. I’d suggest you read Unmasking my Autism by Devon Price, since you’re a counseling professional. I’m sure you read books to research right?
Counseling professional doesn’t sound like a psychologist either. If you were a psychologist you would have said you were not a “counseling professional” you don’t have to be a psychologist to do therapy and many therapists who don’t have a through knowledge on Autism don’t understand what Autism really is. I bet you’re not even licensed to diagnose. Please do some research instead of inserting your career making it seem as if you are knowledgeable when you’re clearly not. You’re simply using your title to be obtuse.
I think was interesting that she was able to interpret that her father was a brilliant man who she thought was autistic which turned into narcissism, but is unable to see that may be her as well.
Shes exhausting
😂😂😂😂 she was kinda rude to in that interview but she did make me look at Issa differently
Issa is tired...@@keisa09jones65
Please stop watching things that exhaust you. This is your personal responsibility.
The mental gymnastics and Amanda trying to claim victim based on what she said on “Club Shay Shay” and the response from listeners.
@@KM-iz6sg true its like when you looking up your own symptoms up to figure out what’s wrong! I myself just did that because my eye was twitching 😂
Amanda is a beautiful soul who has soooo much to offer. Sadly, her name has become synonymous with “grievance.” She has an affect on people, and it would be remiss to say that people don’t have an affect on her. Everyone needs to have their feelings and experiences validated. Wishing her well and hope she can find balance and operate in the peace of mind she deserves. 🙏🏼
she's a disgruntled failed comedian. but because her comedy career did not take off, everyone else is the problem. face it, she's not funny. and not being funny isn't a crime
@@realityqueen3173neither is forgiving. We are allllll “flawed!”
Self diagnosis of adult autism IS supported and encouraged “Although a formal evaluation comes with some benefits, there are several barriers to going this route. Because of this, many people ultimately decide to self-identify as autistic after thoroughly looking into autism and reflecting on their own experiences. This may be referred to as "self-diagnosis." While self-diagnosis is not recognized as a medical diagnosis and does not provide access to certain resources and supports, it is generally accepted within the autistic community and can be incredibly meaningful to individuals.”
Thank you Kempire for your thoughtful discussion of Amanda without judgement, much appreciated 🙏🏾
Sir, this is not it. She lied! Not only did she lie, but she's gaslighting us for sympathy.
As a teacher of autistic kids, inspite of their diagnosis, I HOLD them accountable for behaviors they can control...SHE IS NO DIFFERENT.
Kempire, Thank you for 10:00 to 10:50, well said and relevant!
This is dangerous. She has not been diagnosed. Please seek a consultation with a professional if you suspect you may have a mental health disorder. Private evals can be costly, but assessments are also offered through health insurance, they are free through your local school districts, and some providers offer low-cost/sliding scale evaluations through institutions that have graduate training programs for psychologists in training. Psychologist here.
I am a mental health professional and Amanda needs to be clinically assessed and diagnosed...the process would really be helpful for her. Also the spectrum can be wide, but I highly suggest she see a professional
Well said Kempire! Good video brotha !
Kempire, I love your well-rounded and socially conscious commentary on this video.
It's not that we don't like her. It's the self victimization is tiring. I don't understand how everyone is wrong about a person who is never doing anything wrong. It's always what was done to her. Unprovoked. Negative. I wanted so bad to like her. I thought she was militant. And I have followed her since childhood. She is just a glass half full type person and will always take whatever happens as a dig on her. It's exhausting.
What I didn't like about Amanda's interview with Shannon is he gave her a platform to tell her truth ..then the next day she went on Instagram and talked about him. Don't come to my house and then trash me. Problematic! IMO
I enjoyed it. Watched entire episode as well
I work in mental health, too many people self diagnose themselves and are usually wrong. They see things on tiktok that they think they relate with and think they know more than doctors.... this is very dangerous and reckless. You cannot just "identify" as a disorder and present it as clinically valid.
Why is she the only person who can educate or inform? The truth seems to be her version in every situation.
Also, I can't listen to 3 hours of her. She needs intense therapy instead of bleeding all over people. God bless those who support her. You've found your tribe.
As brilliant as she proclaims herself to be. She should have created space where she is the boss and creating spaces for other long ago.
She said exactly this is the interview. The truth and her truth are usually the same. She does no wrong in her eyes, which is problematic.
@_Ridethemaverick I have found in life that if I am occupied taking my own inventory, that keeps me busy.
She lost me after that autism diagnosis talk. I knew from when she said it she was lying. My son has autism and even though it is a spectrum, I know she was not affected by it the way she claim. I see my son and other at his ABA therapy session and his school. That’s not anything to play around with.
Everyone’s autism doesn’t look like your sons.
@@Locdluuvthat’s why I said it’s a spectrum and I highlighted the others with it at his ABA therapy session. by the way it doesn’t cost 10,000 dollars you just have to go to a psychiatrist and ask them to do it, on the internet y’all be so quick to respond to someone without fact checking or understanding what someone is saying.
@@HiTechHeadthe parroting that's done online is frustrating and for me dysregulating at times.
$10K is maybe what a private clinician charges but even that's an exaggeration.
She’s an adult. Not a child seeking a diagnosis. It’s actually difficult to find someone willing to diagnose and treat an adult. And yes, apparently expensive? Lots of autistic adults in the comments talking about it. You should check it out. Learned a lot
💜💜 Happy Sunday Mr. Kempire, have a blessed day!!
Day one of medical school we are taught not to self diagnose. And these are the literal experts we’re talking about. You can say you think you have it but that’s about it. And it doesn’t cost $10,000 to get evaluated.