Um...sir...? You forgot The Wire -- EASILY the greatest television series -- or H.B.O. series -- ever created. Its themes, characters, and plotlines are masterful.
Cmon, Seinfeld wasn't talking about our culture being about nothing in the 90s, it's about being a relatable comedy about people and situations that we see in our lives.
Mad men doesn’t fall off at all. Also, giving game of thrones S tier whilst providing the same argument for mad men falling off into B tier, when game of thrones has the biggest fall off ever?
The writing in Game of Thrones fell off, but I still think the story was pretty good throughout. Hit take, perhaps, but I think season 7 is worse than season 8. Say whatever you want about making Bran king, some of the dialog choices, and the rushed pacing, but after working my way through it again, I think the actual story is still low-key brilliant, albeit in spite of itself sometimes. People just got blindsided by Dany because the show up to that point had successfully manipulated their liberal biases into never questioning her previous actions and motivations for the entire show up to that point. Dany burning down King's Landing is only a shocker to the people who couldn't see her for what she always was.
I agree Mad Men fell off but also agree that he didn't rate it fairly against GoT which I heard fell off (though I did not watch to the end). I loved MM but it didn't stick the landing for me.
@@Tyler_W GOT after S4 was so much weaker. After the show stopped following the books, the dialogue, plotting and character arcs took a nosedive. S6 was better than 5, but still a mixbag, S7 was fairly weak and S8 killed a lot of the character arcs and was written so poorly. If you take S8 as it's own thing standalone it's fairly middling, it's OK. But when you factor in how it butchers so many characters and how rushed it was. The white walkers were built up from the very first episode as this looming presence, the climax facing off against them ended up being so underwhelming. S1-4 is pretty much top tier HBO, after that it just declined and declined.
He hasn’t watched a lot of South Park. They had a huge scandal like 15-20 year ago because they were trying to draw the prophet Mohammad. It was a huge scandal. Hell they even shot and killed Osama on tv a month before they actually killed him in real life. Also girls actually didn’t suck for the first season. At the time atleast it as about an ugly girl rich girl who got cut off from her parents money and it was about a spoiled girl facing reality at first. But after the first season it changed and became a girl boss show. The tone changed from season 1 to 2 and people tuned out
South Park actually did make fun of Islam. They did this whole hilarious show not picturing Mohammed and kept pushing the boundaries in absurd directions to show what was acceptable and what wasn't.
@ pro Cop, no systemic racism nonsense. Pro Capitalism. Showcased corruption within big institutions, right always has been pro small government. Showcased how irrelevant liberal degrees are, suss video on my page.
@@No-gq8hg very pro cop. Showcased how little clue liberals, with their college degrees, have of the real world. Showcased political corruption, advocating for smaller government.
Yes, that is my understanding too. And while it was interesting - what I would really like to see is Klavan talking about his personal TOP20 (or so) TV shows (or movies, or books).
I'm currently watching The Sopranos for the 1st time and I know it's extremely highly regarded but I can't say too much about it as I've only seen the first couple of episodes. My current all time top ten is as follows: 1. The Wire/Boardwalk Empire 2. Banshee 3. Rome 4. Tokyo Vice 5. The Night Of 6. Sharp Objects 7. Band Of Brothers 8. Top Boy 9. Succession 10. Breaking Bad
@@enterthebruce91my top ten is 1. The wire 2. Game of thrones 3. Six feet under 4. Mr robot 5. Dark 6. The boys 7. The shield 8. Breaking bad 9. Succession 10. Sons of anarchy Shows that were/are almost top ten but just miss it The Americans Attack on titsn Sopranos Handmaids tale Stranger things Yellowstone Fargo Barry Mad men Better call Saul Bojack horseman Hannibal Invincible Ozark Dexter
Start to finish, Sopranos, Deadwood & Mad Men are the zenith of American TV. Top 3 by the Kentucky straight. Shout out to Lonesome Dove is a personal dear favourite. White Lotus is quickly making inroads. Season 3 will determine its ultimate destiny.
No mention of Married With Children? Klavan, not even in your 150 years have you been able to insult more people, especially women than Al Bundy. He also scored four more touchdowns than you.
I'm bummed _True Detective_ (Season 1) wasn't mentioned. I wanted to hear Klavan's thoughts on that one... It seems like it would be right in his wheelhouse
The Andy Griffith show never gets old and it is funny every single time you watch it, until it goes to color and then it is one of the worst of all time. If you wrote it off long time ago for flimsy reasons, give it a try. You will be pleasantly surprised.
Yeah, I'm currently watching Mad Men (now on Season 5) and it's just getting better and better. I have no idea what he's talking about-like, I can _tell_ there is a difference between the first season and the later ones, but they are in no way worse.
Solid A, no question about it. Iconic. They missed a couple other solid A sitcoms though. Parks and rec, which basically became a live action Simpsons, and also Cheers which is arguably S tier.
Klavan, you’re wrong about breaking bad. Definitely S. The ending alone earned that. I have a couple of great options for the next video that I recommend. Hell on Wheels. Justified. Silicon Valley. The Boys. Dexter. Rick and Morty. Evil. Ash vs Evil dead.
Hell on Wheels - A (I really enjoyed it) Justified - S (epic show) Silicon Valley - ??? (I haven't seen it at all) The Boys - S (first two seasons), B (third season), D (4th season) Dexter - S (first 4 seasons) A (rest of the show) Rick and Morty - S (one of my favorites) Evil - A (at first), B (fell off and I stopped watching) Ash vs Evil Dead - A (for what I saw of it)
If Game of Thrones is S tier for him, what can you expect… Breaking Bad one of the best, most complete shows ever! And that’s how you end an amazing story… after his ranking of movies and books I actually expected some sense and reason in this, so this is quite shocking 😄
Overrated. Recycled each season. He gets behind needs to cook it falls apart recycled only on a bigger scale. Lot to love about the show for sure though
If you say its the only show that ended on top, you're very limited. Multiple of the shows he mentioned ended on top and were great the whole time. Sopranos, The Americans, The Shield, The Wire...all equally good to breaking bad
@gregdrake5069 By ending on top, I mean the show never even plateaued. No way did Sopranos end on top. It had a controversial and somewhat dossapointing ending IMO. I never watched The Wire, but I hear it's one of the best, so you might be right. And The Shield definitely went down hill.
You said that feminism is the reason that all male leads were antiheroes, but I would argue everybody was just trying to emulate the success of the Sopranos. Vince Gilligan even said there is no Walter White without Tony Soprano.
The Dick Van Dyke show was ahead of its time. It had the traits of a show of its time, but also could lean on its comedic writing and did not use situation comedy as a crutch.
@@meltingkrayons5830 Did you actually watch the show? It was situation comedy show about a comedy writer for another TV show. That is one of the oldest themes in Hollywood. Many films were made about producing plays, musicals, and even some about producing dramas. The acting was typical of many of Bob Hope's movies and the I Love Lucy show.
@@stevelenores5637 I have watched it and still watch it today. Obviously it is a situation comedy. My point is that the show uses situations, but unlike many contemporary shows, it's strength is the actual comedy writing and characters (and actors) rather than being dependent on "props and gags."
Wait, Klavan gave the West Wing an A "because people loved it so much" but he gave All in the Family and Seinfeld only a B, even though people also "loved it so much"? Huh?
This is a list of greatest American shows only. Hence no I Claudius, Fawlty Towers, Callan, The Prisoner, Brideshead Revisited, Monty Python's Flying Circus, etc
The difference between the British and American versions of the office is that the American characters are over the top and exaggerated, whereas in the British version, the characters are more subtle and believable as real people.
Seinfeld B? Seinfeld B??? Andrew Klavan should be fired from DW for that. History has shown how much harder it is to write a good comedy series than any other genre! Come on, Andrew!!!
Klavan youre a beautiful man. But i disagree strongly about Seinfeld. I didn't grow up with a tv. Then went to uni and watched seinfeld on my laptop all through the nights, guffawing and keeping everybody up while everyone else had sex. Its pure genius. As was the first season of true detective.
It started to go south after they hit the end of Martin’s published material. Martin is a great storyteller but a complete pr**k of a person. We’re never going to see the end of that tale in print unless old George lives to be a hundred which I find extremely unlikely. He tried any number of suggestions to try to get HBO to put off the last half of the tale. I think there was even reporting he was trying to get a full length feature done. He seems to have just lost interest in the whole affair at that point once they ran out of established material and HBO had other fish to fry as well. The last episodes were bunk and the end of it was epically bad and insulting to the fans.
Obviously missed a lot of shows but love the content. Would have loved to hear your thoughts on Lost, The Walking Dead, or Family Guy/Simpsons. Keep it coming.
Monty Python’s Flying Circus, the first seasons of SNL, Second City TV, Black Adder, Have Gun Will Travel, Sharpe’s Rifles, Horatio Hornblower, Foyle’s War, The Man In The High Castle, The Expanse, Better Call Saul.
Yeah, I love the Sopranos-which you can probably tell by my profile picture-though it has some inconsistencies at times, but there is one thing I will always stand for and that's that the acting of the Sopranos is the best ever. It's just so good.
@@oldmovieman7550 Not for me but I think the first two seasons of AD were really strong and season 3 was decent but AD was awful after it got picked up by Netflix.
'24' would also be in S tier for me - 6 amazing seasons, 3 decent seasons, 1 amazing videogame, 1 decent movie, amazing soundtrack and main theme and one of the best main characters ever created, that's some legacy. You also had appearances from major stars the likes of Dennis Hopper, Rami Malek, Jon Voight, Cherry Jones, Robert Carlyle, Katee Sackhoff, Powers Boothe, James Cromwell, Arnold Vosloo, Lou Diamond Phillips, Benjamin Bratt, Michael Wincott and Bob Gunton.
Klavan rightfully calls "The Wire" a conservative show, and I say "24" despite being accused of being the conservative/republican show is actually a liberal show. It was championing a black democratic president, it had a republican president on the show as the villain. The nuclear bomb storyline in season 2 actually has the people inside the US government responsible for it, with Muslim terrorists only used as pawns. To say this is in any way a republican/conservative show is insane.
My mother is a huge fan of I Love Lucy. I never really liked it that much. In its defense, I haven't watched it since I was a teenager. Seinfeld seems like a B tier for me now as well. So many other shows are better, in my opinion. I would have said A tier in the early 2000's, though.
This video was good for approximately 57 seconds before dude said one of the dumbest tv show takes ive ever heard 😂 literally nobody was wishing for guns in Game of Thrones?? The media thought it wasn’t woke enough?? Bro what? It was hands down the most popular, mainstream tv show in 2017. Lets get you to bed gramps Edit: oh he misunderstood walter white as well 💀 c’mon now
I can’t comment on this category as I haven’t seen The Sopranos, The Office, The X-Files, half of Seinfeld, and many other shows people love. Looney Tunes and Jeopardy! may be the only TV shows worth watching.
I was already an adult when Pee Wee Herman came around. Paul Rubins was a much underrated actor, turned out cellar work in every thing he did. And his dad is a founding member of the Israeli Airforce!
Loved it at first, but eventually I struggled with the convoluted storylines. The characters began to vacillate between good and evil, as if they were confused about how to behave. And it featured one of the worst endings in TV history.
I don't know how you feel about science fiction, but one of the best sci-fi TV shows of the past 40 years is 'The Expanse'. It's a six season sci-fi series based on a book series written by James S. A. Corey (the pen name for Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck). It ran on the Sci-Fi Channel for three seasons before they cancelled it (it cost too much for them to produce), but was picked up by Amazon Prime for the remaining three seasons. It takes place in the 23rd century where humanity still remains in the Solar System. The main factions are the UN run Earth, a newly independent and highly militarized Mars colony and The Belt, people who are trying to eek out a living in the Astroid Belt and the moons of Jupiter and Saturn. The system is a powder keg ready to explode into war. And the match that lights the fuse to that powder keg is the discovery of an extrasolar "virus" that has played dormant for millions of years on one of the moons of Saturn. The production, writing, acting and visual effects are stunning for a TV show. IMHO, it is to the 2010's and early 2020's what TOS Star Trek was to the 60's and 70's as far as high quality sci-fi. I highly recommend it and you won't be disappointed. The book series is also highly recommended. There are nine books in total (the series only covers the first six since there is a major time jump at the start of book seven) and several novellas and short stories providing background on some of the main characters.
I absolutely loved Klavan until he gave Seinfeld a B. What they were able to pull off within the constraints of 1990’s prime time network television is a miracle. Every episode of Seinfeld was like watching Pulp Fiction. It was a perfect show. Timeless.
@@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment Eh... No, Picard was always the best Captain. I'm open to other future Captains being better, but I don't think anyone has exceeded Picard yet.
You are so based for using a term like "based". TZ is one of the top ten shows of all times. That's pretty good for an industry that's around 70 years old.
The amount of ideas in that show is absolutely nuts. Most creatives struggle to produce one great idea and yet Serling was knocking them out regularly.
@@monkey39128 He didn't write all of them. "I Sing the Body Electric" was Ray Bradbury for example. At least 36 of the TZ stories were based on short stories by other authors.
@@Holycurative9610 he left for about two seasons at the end, when Robert Patrick and Annabeth Gish came onboard. They’re not bad, per se, but I couldn’t get into those episodes without David.
The first 5 seasons were amazing and even the 1998 movie was pretty good. Seasons 6 and 7 were also watchable. Sadly, everything after that including the two revival seasons were trash.
@@EddieHenderson92 once I got past my hatred of the show attempting to move on without David Duchovny, I actually came to like John Doggett a lot. He had a good rapport with Scully. Monica Reyes, however, was just a joke. She had all the bizarre notions of Mulder, with none of the earnestness that made Mulder's character so endearing despite his kooky theories. (Although even I didn't think she deserved to have her character thrown under the bus in the revival seasons.)
It's good tthat Andrew added the wire, *given that the wire is the only S+ tier show.* Don't know why he didn't like season 4 though. It was amazing. The wire falls off in season 5 a bit with the journalist plot, but the wrap up of the story is still very fine.
I love The Office, but it does have a black eye on its legacy with those last two seasons without Michael. Also, Parks didn't have a very good final season but most of the seasons were great.
I see it as one continued masterpiece along with El Camino. Kim Wexler is possibly the greatest TV character of all time. Both shows are absolute perfection.
This video gets a B for not including Better Call Saul. This show was more consistent, the cast ensemble acting was far better, it was more well written and more consistent. And although it didn’t say anything new about the human condition, it didn’t need to. It was the funniest crime drama to come to television, ever.
House Of Cards? Bates Motel? True Detective? Homeland? Fargo? Great shows not on this list. I’m sure I could think of more, but it shows you how people’s tastes differ.
9:21 “I hate humiliation humor. I can’t stand to watch people being humiliated.” Same here. That’s why I generally despise the movies of Paul Thomas Anderson, whose whole schtick is the cinema of humiliation.
at first i was gonna say "i'll never subscribe!" coz you put game of thrones above breaking bad, but then i noticed all your feminist hate so maybe i'll subscribe after all.. eventually lol. edit: oh wait, apparently i subscribed 5 minutes ago.. i'm drunk, leave me alone.
I'm the opposite. each time I rewatch Seinfeld I love it even more (except for season 9). I really think some people after decades still don't get what this show was about.
@@dustinwilson4815 I just rewatched the entire series on Netflix with my Scottish wife (who had never seen it) and I think it was even better the second time around, and she loved it too.
Monty Python is clearly S-tier. Most absurd sketch comedy ever, with Kids in the Hall a very close second. MASH was excellent in the first few seasons, but it went way past it's "Sell By" date.
How could you leave out “The View”?
You want Klavan to die?? 😂
@@jonathanbowling2904Maybe if he did worst tv shows ever.
😂
For Real
@@jonathanbowling2904 May Klavan live forever!
Frasier doesn't get the acclaim it deserves. It's smart and funny and one of the best sitcoms ever made.
Huh? That show won like 30 Emmys when it was on the air. It's a great show but it got plenty of acclaim and hype in general.
My favorite.
The writing for that show was amazing.
Oh I agree, one of the few times the Emmys got it right, it was better than Seinfeld and every other comedy of that era
I never could get into it all the while knowing it really was great but I was the one missing something
I could say the same about several videogames
Um...sir...? You forgot The Wire -- EASILY the greatest television series -- or H.B.O. series -- ever created. Its themes, characters, and plotlines are masterful.
🎯🎯🎯
Cmon, Seinfeld wasn't talking about our culture being about nothing in the 90s, it's about being a relatable comedy about people and situations that we see in our lives.
@@KeithGreenBiopic some people are so serious. Seinfeld referencing the culture??? That’s just nonsense!! 😂
Why didn't The Wire make the list? Its legitimately the best TV show in history? Its a masterpiece
Not really
One of the best, not the best
Because it's the most boring show ever
@@EddieHenderson92imo the wire is hands down the best show ever. No question about it
@@lifeisberserk9566 Bad attention span, I guess.
Frasier has the quippiest writing of any sitcom
AMEN BROTHER
Cheers was better.
@@EddieHenderson92 The first five seasons, but when Shelly Long was replaced with Kristi Alley it sucked.
@@oshemer5066 That would be Cheers; Frasier was the spinoff
Mad men doesn’t fall off at all. Also, giving game of thrones S tier whilst providing the same argument for mad men falling off into B tier, when game of thrones has the biggest fall off ever?
Yeah I’m with you that mad men never fell off. Imo it’s actually in a three way tie for most consistent show ever with the Americans and the shield.
The writing in Game of Thrones fell off, but I still think the story was pretty good throughout. Hit take, perhaps, but I think season 7 is worse than season 8. Say whatever you want about making Bran king, some of the dialog choices, and the rushed pacing, but after working my way through it again, I think the actual story is still low-key brilliant, albeit in spite of itself sometimes. People just got blindsided by Dany because the show up to that point had successfully manipulated their liberal biases into never questioning her previous actions and motivations for the entire show up to that point. Dany burning down King's Landing is only a shocker to the people who couldn't see her for what she always was.
I agree Mad Men fell off but also agree that he didn't rate it fairly against GoT which I heard fell off (though I did not watch to the end).
I loved MM but it didn't stick the landing for me.
@ yeah I finished mad men rewatched recently but there definitely a distinct drop in quality in season 6+7 , didn’t fall off too hard but defo worse
@@Tyler_W GOT after S4 was so much weaker. After the show stopped following the books, the dialogue, plotting and character arcs took a nosedive. S6 was better than 5, but still a mixbag, S7 was fairly weak and S8 killed a lot of the character arcs and was written so poorly. If you take S8 as it's own thing standalone it's fairly middling, it's OK. But when you factor in how it butchers so many characters and how rushed it was. The white walkers were built up from the very first episode as this looming presence, the climax facing off against them ended up being so underwhelming. S1-4 is pretty much top tier HBO, after that it just declined and declined.
Top Gear is one of the all time greats. Funny and never made an attempt to be politically correct.
Top Gear was great when Clarkson, Hammond and May were presenting, it went downhill fast when they left.
@@Holycurative9610yeah, people don’t even consider it Top Gear after they left. When someone says Top Gear, they mean Clarkson, May and Hammond
Top Gear is the most popular show of all time. It has the most viewers of all time: hundreds of millions of people tuned in each week.
Glad Amazon kept it going, well sort of.
Where's the Good Wife?
South Park regularly roasts Islam and Muhammad
Yeah I was confused about that one.
Yeah I believe they had a fatwa out on them, or at least the threat of one.
@@deanbean317they absolutely *have* a fatwa out on them.
He hasn’t watched a lot of South Park. They had a huge scandal like 15-20 year ago because they were trying to draw the prophet Mohammad. It was a huge scandal. Hell they even shot and killed Osama on tv a month before they actually killed him in real life.
Also girls actually didn’t suck for the first season. At the time atleast it as about an ugly girl rich girl who got cut off from her parents money and it was about a spoiled girl facing reality at first. But after the first season it changed and became a girl boss show. The tone changed from season 1 to 2 and people tuned out
People who don’t watch the show know about their history with Islam. Klavan faking it for this video.
South Park actually did make fun of Islam. They did this whole hilarious show not picturing Mohammed and kept pushing the boundaries in absurd directions to show what was acceptable and what wasn't.
I remember the Muslim cab driver episode 😂
Where's Fraiser!?
The GOAT
Sitcoms are not worth ranking.
Thank you!
@@stevelenores5637I completely disagree. How can a show about every day life not have value?
@@johannastromberg1224 Your life is like Frasier?
Regarding The Wire, "One of the most conservative shows written by one of the most left wing, radical people ever and he didn't know" is spot on
how
@ pro Cop, no systemic racism nonsense. Pro Capitalism. Showcased corruption within big institutions, right always has been pro small government. Showcased how irrelevant liberal degrees are, suss video on my page.
@@No-gq8hg very pro cop. Showcased how little clue liberals, with their college degrees, have of the real world. Showcased political corruption, advocating for smaller government.
@ glorifies capitalism, pro cop, highlights government corruption, highlights uselessness of liberal college degrees
For everyone complaining about missing shows, I think he was personally rating someone else's list.
You can still complain about the shows missing from that list, but we can't blame Klavan for it.
Yes, that is my understanding too. And while it was interesting - what I would really like to see is Klavan talking about his personal TOP20 (or so) TV shows (or movies, or books).
Mad Men and X-files rating change because "they ruined the show" but Game of Thrones is S tier the entire way?
Alright, sopranos, Seinfeld, now we're talking the same language
Ozark?
Sopranos has always been, and always will be, the best tv show.
I'm currently watching The Sopranos for the 1st time and I know it's extremely highly regarded but I can't say too much about it as I've only seen the first couple of episodes. My current all time top ten is as follows:
1. The Wire/Boardwalk Empire
2. Banshee
3. Rome
4. Tokyo Vice
5. The Night Of
6. Sharp Objects
7. Band Of Brothers
8. Top Boy
9. Succession
10. Breaking Bad
@@enterthebruce91Great list
@@enterthebruce91my top ten is
1. The wire
2. Game of thrones
3. Six feet under
4. Mr robot
5. Dark
6. The boys
7. The shield
8. Breaking bad
9. Succession
10. Sons of anarchy
Shows that were/are almost top ten but just miss it
The Americans
Attack on titsn
Sopranos
Handmaids tale
Stranger things
Yellowstone
Fargo
Barry
Mad men
Better call Saul
Bojack horseman
Hannibal
Invincible
Ozark
Dexter
Start to finish, Sopranos, Deadwood & Mad Men are the zenith of American TV. Top 3 by the Kentucky straight. Shout out to Lonesome Dove is a personal dear favourite. White Lotus is quickly making inroads. Season 3 will determine its ultimate destiny.
Old school actors who had to learn their lines. They didn't have technology Green Acres was genius. I mean, there's a lot of them
OK WHERE IS CHEERS?!?!
There’s only so many shows dude
There’s only so many shows dude
No mention of Married With Children? Klavan, not even in your 150 years have you been able to insult more people, especially women than Al Bundy. He also scored four more touchdowns than you.
I'm bummed _True Detective_ (Season 1) wasn't mentioned.
I wanted to hear Klavan's thoughts on that one... It seems like it would be right in his wheelhouse
Dexter
All in the Family is S tier because it is funny, but also evokes genuine human emotion. No other SitCom could grab your heart the way this one did.
How do you give Mad Men a "S / B" but GOT a straight "S"? Is at best a "S / C"
Love both shows but yeah I agree with the video that game of thrones is better than mad men. Mad men is still incredible though
The Andy Griffith show never gets old and it is funny every single time you watch it, until it goes to color and then it is one of the worst of all time. If you wrote it off long time ago for flimsy reasons, give it a try. You will be pleasantly surprised.
CITIZEN’S ARR-AY-EST! CITIZEN’S ARR-AY-EST!
the Barbara Eden episode was the best in the history of television.
Mad Men not being pure S is a crime. It was great all the way through.
Yeah his analysis of it was pretty garbage
Yeah, I'm currently watching Mad Men (now on Season 5) and it's just getting better and better. I have no idea what he's talking about-like, I can _tell_ there is a difference between the first season and the later ones, but they are in no way worse.
Breaking Bad is an S-plus, not an A. No-brainer.
Blew my mind when he said A...my favorite show of all time
Somebody probably called him Heisenberg or Mike and it got under his skin
Seinfeld is at least an A c'mon all the sitcom lovers.
Yeah, but it’s a show about nothing
No, Seinfeld sucked
@@bobsmith5185 You misspelled your mother.
Solid A, no question about it. Iconic. They missed a couple other solid A sitcoms though. Parks and rec, which basically became a live action Simpsons, and also Cheers which is arguably S tier.
Where was The Simpsons by the way? That's one of those S tier\C tier situations
The Shield at its peak was ridiculously good television.
Vic met be the greatest TV character of all time.
@@EddieHenderson92Rust chole and Ragnar lothbrok are better but I respect that opinion
@@EddieHenderson92vic Mackey is definitely a legend
Klavan, you’re wrong about breaking bad. Definitely S. The ending alone earned that. I have a couple of great options for the next video that I recommend. Hell on Wheels. Justified. Silicon Valley. The Boys. Dexter. Rick and Morty. Evil. Ash vs Evil dead.
Justified and Dexter were great. The boys turned into dog 💩 in season 3.
Breaking Bad certainly has a FAR better ending than Sopranos....😏
Hell on Wheels - A (I really enjoyed it)
Justified - S (epic show)
Silicon Valley - ??? (I haven't seen it at all)
The Boys - S (first two seasons), B (third season), D (4th season)
Dexter - S (first 4 seasons) A (rest of the show)
Rick and Morty - S (one of my favorites)
Evil - A (at first), B (fell off and I stopped watching)
Ash vs Evil Dead - A (for what I saw of it)
@@dustinwilson4815 Silicon Valley is a Mike Judge show. Worth the watch
If Game of Thrones is S tier for him, what can you expect… Breaking Bad one of the best, most complete shows ever! And that’s how you end an amazing story… after his ranking of movies and books I actually expected some sense and reason in this, so this is quite shocking 😄
Everyone knows The Andrew Klavan Show is the standard by which all shows are judged.
Your IQ must hover around 70.
Breaking Bad is definitely an S show. Better than all he rest. Only show that ended on top. It didn't even plateau.
Overrated. Recycled each season. He gets behind needs to cook it falls apart recycled only on a bigger scale. Lot to love about the show for sure though
If you say its the only show that ended on top, you're very limited. Multiple of the shows he mentioned ended on top and were great the whole time. Sopranos, The Americans, The Shield, The Wire...all equally good to breaking bad
@gregdrake5069 By ending on top, I mean the show never even plateaued. No way did Sopranos end on top. It had a controversial and somewhat dossapointing ending IMO. I never watched The Wire, but I hear it's one of the best, so you might be right. And The Shield definitely went down hill.
@@sothrow5462this is the worst take I’ve ever heard
@@sothrow5462Garbage take
You said that feminism is the reason that all male leads were antiheroes, but I would argue everybody was just trying to emulate the success of the Sopranos. Vince Gilligan even said there is no Walter White without Tony Soprano.
The Dick Van Dyke show.
I saw reruns in late childhood. Conspicuous to me: how dated it was, and how giddily, self-consciously modern everyone involved felt.
One of thousands of sit-coms. I would classify most of them as typical and formulaic.
The Dick Van Dyke show was ahead of its time. It had the traits of a show of its time, but also could lean on its comedic writing and did not use situation comedy as a crutch.
@@meltingkrayons5830 Did you actually watch the show? It was situation comedy show about a comedy writer for another TV show. That is one of the oldest themes in Hollywood. Many films were made about producing plays, musicals, and even some about producing dramas. The acting was typical of many of Bob Hope's movies and the I Love Lucy show.
@@stevelenores5637 I have watched it and still watch it today. Obviously it is a situation comedy. My point is that the show uses situations, but unlike many contemporary shows, it's strength is the actual comedy writing and characters (and actors) rather than being dependent on "props and gags."
He lost me at Seinfeld.
What a weird ranking system: "S" = best, "A" = second best, "B" = third best....
That's how virtually every tiering system works.
Missing: Twin Peaks and The Prisoner with Patrick McGoohan. Two shows that cleared a path for a lot of shows that followed.
The Prisoner was incredible, agreed.
Wait, Klavan gave the West Wing an A "because people loved it so much" but he gave All in the Family and Seinfeld only a B, even though people also "loved it so much"? Huh?
This is missing two major S tier shows: FARGO and SUCCESSION.
This is a list of greatest American shows only. Hence no I Claudius, Fawlty Towers, Callan, The Prisoner, Brideshead Revisited, Monty Python's Flying Circus, etc
The difference between the British and American versions of the office is that the American characters are over the top and exaggerated, whereas in the British version, the characters are more subtle and believable as real people.
Breaking Bad is an S Tier and the Greatest Show of All Time with the Sopranos
Better Call Saul also belongs in the S tier IMO.
Seinfeld B? Seinfeld B??? Andrew Klavan should be fired from DW for that. History has shown how much harder it is to write a good comedy series than any other genre! Come on, Andrew!!!
I truly doubt he ever sat down and actually watched a couple of seinfeld seasons. An automatic S for me
Klavan youre a beautiful man. But i disagree strongly about Seinfeld. I didn't grow up with a tv. Then went to uni and watched seinfeld on my laptop all through the nights, guffawing and keeping everybody up while everyone else had sex. Its pure genius. As was the first season of true detective.
Seinfeld is A tier.
Perhaps even S tier just because it's so uniquely good among sitcoms.
The Wire is the greatest of all time. Underrated Opus.
My theory is no matter how good the series is it should not last more than three seasons. I haven't found any any exceptions yet.
Game of Thrones seasons 1-4 is some of the greatest TV ever. 5 and 6 are pretty good, then 7 and 8 went down the hole.
It started to go south after they hit the end of Martin’s published material. Martin is a great storyteller but a complete pr**k of a person. We’re never going to see the end of that tale in print unless old George lives to be a hundred which I find extremely unlikely. He tried any number of suggestions to try to get HBO to put off the last half of the tale. I think there was even reporting he was trying to get a full length feature done. He seems to have just lost interest in the whole affair at that point once they ran out of established material and HBO had other fish to fry as well. The last episodes were bunk and the end of it was epically bad and insulting to the fans.
@@jill7759 Exactly
Season 6 is the best season of the show you Supercuts delight worshipers.
@@iammiller5478 Nah it’s like the fifth best maybe
@@jerrys1 best by far. You must be on drugs
Obviously missed a lot of shows but love the content. Would have loved to hear your thoughts on Lost, The Walking Dead, or Family Guy/Simpsons. Keep it coming.
Monty Python’s Flying Circus, the first seasons of SNL, Second City TV, Black Adder, Have Gun Will Travel, Sharpe’s Rifles, Horatio Hornblower, Foyle’s War, The Man In The High Castle, The Expanse, Better Call Saul.
Game of Thrones above Breaking Bad? BB got better every season. GoT bombed
Game of Thrones had higher peaks at the times it was good.
@@into_play3226 I don’t even think that’s true. I think they were on par when they were both at their peak. Completely different shows anyway
It's wayyyyyyy better than Walter white family misunderstanding son
The first four seasons of Game of thrones >>>>> Breaking Bad
@@HermitsClog disagree. I’d say on par
Sopranos was the best ever. When Tony backed Carmella up like he was going to hit her…I actually flinched. Just superb!!
Yeah, I love the Sopranos-which you can probably tell by my profile picture-though it has some inconsistencies at times, but there is one thing I will always stand for and that's that the acting of the Sopranos is the best ever. It's just so good.
Seinfeld is a triple S+ show. The best of all time.
One of the truly greats
💯
Best sitcom for sure and never had a bad season. I love the American version of The Office but the last two seasons without Michael were bad.
@@EddieHenderson92 the first few seasons of Arrested Development are better than any season of The Office also.
@@oldmovieman7550 Not for me but I think the first two seasons of AD were really strong and season 3 was decent but AD was awful after it got picked up by Netflix.
'24' would also be in S tier for me - 6 amazing seasons, 3 decent seasons, 1 amazing videogame, 1 decent movie, amazing soundtrack and main theme and one of the best main characters ever created, that's some legacy. You also had appearances from major stars the likes of Dennis Hopper, Rami Malek, Jon Voight, Cherry Jones, Robert Carlyle, Katee Sackhoff, Powers Boothe, James Cromwell, Arnold Vosloo, Lou Diamond Phillips, Benjamin Bratt, Michael Wincott and Bob Gunton.
Klavan rightfully calls "The Wire" a conservative show, and I say "24" despite being accused of being the conservative/republican show is actually a liberal show. It was championing a black democratic president, it had a republican president on the show as the villain.
The nuclear bomb storyline in season 2 actually has the people inside the US government responsible for it, with Muslim terrorists only used as pawns.
To say this is in any way a republican/conservative show is insane.
Seinfeld and I Love Lucy???? B tier??? And, no Simpsons??? Good luck with this video.
My mother is a huge fan of I Love Lucy. I never really liked it that much. In its defense, I haven't watched it since I was a teenager.
Seinfeld seems like a B tier for me now as well. So many other shows are better, in my opinion. I would have said A tier in the early 2000's, though.
I love how in the midst of these great shows, Girls was included. One of these things is not like the other.
Token show. Just like black panther in the movie video.
Peewee and Daily Show also are garbage.
This video was good for approximately 57 seconds before dude said one of the dumbest tv show takes ive ever heard 😂 literally nobody was wishing for guns in Game of Thrones?? The media thought it wasn’t woke enough?? Bro what? It was hands down the most popular, mainstream tv show in 2017. Lets get you to bed gramps
Edit: oh he misunderstood walter white as well 💀 c’mon now
I can’t comment on this category as I haven’t seen The Sopranos, The Office, The X-Files, half of Seinfeld, and many other shows people love.
Looney Tunes and Jeopardy! may be the only TV shows worth watching.
I was already an adult when Pee Wee Herman came around. Paul Rubins was a much underrated actor, turned out cellar work in every thing he did. And his dad is a founding member of the Israeli Airforce!
I didn't know that.
No Lost?
Loved it at first, but eventually I struggled with the convoluted storylines. The characters began to vacillate between good and evil, as if they were confused about how to behave. And it featured one of the worst endings in TV history.
@@davidmusicmakercompletely agree lost is a wasted potential show
I don't know how you feel about science fiction, but one of the best sci-fi TV shows of the past 40 years is 'The Expanse'. It's a six season sci-fi series based on a book series written by James S. A. Corey (the pen name for Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck). It ran on the Sci-Fi Channel for three seasons before they cancelled it (it cost too much for them to produce), but was picked up by Amazon Prime for the remaining three seasons.
It takes place in the 23rd century where humanity still remains in the Solar System. The main factions are the UN run Earth, a newly independent and highly militarized Mars colony and The Belt, people who are trying to eek out a living in the Astroid Belt and the moons of Jupiter and Saturn. The system is a powder keg ready to explode into war. And the match that lights the fuse to that powder keg is the discovery of an extrasolar "virus" that has played dormant for millions of years on one of the moons of Saturn.
The production, writing, acting and visual effects are stunning for a TV show. IMHO, it is to the 2010's and early 2020's what TOS Star Trek was to the 60's and 70's as far as high quality sci-fi. I highly recommend it and you won't be disappointed.
The book series is also highly recommended. There are nine books in total (the series only covers the first six since there is a major time jump at the start of book seven) and several novellas and short stories providing background on some of the main characters.
I wasn’t huge on Seinfeld either but Curb your enthusiasm is very funny
Huh? They're basically the same show, lol.
1:50 i realized how much they look alike. 😂
I absolutely loved Klavan until he gave Seinfeld a B. What they were able to pull off within the constraints of 1990’s prime time network television is a miracle. Every episode of Seinfeld was like watching Pulp Fiction. It was a perfect show. Timeless.
I've seen all the classic shows, and The Shield finale is still my favorite finale ever.
Someone's going to have to explain the genuis of PeeWee's Playhouse to me, because I feel like I'm missing something.
I have no idea. I think it's one of those "You had to have watched it as a kid" things.
You forgot Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
No idea where this list comes from, but usually the consensus is: 1-TNG, 2-TOS, 3-DS9, 4-Voyager, 5-Enterprise.
TNG all the way
THIS!!! DS9 is best Trek, and Sisko is best captain!
@@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment Eh... No, Picard was always the best Captain. I'm open to other future Captains being better, but I don't think anyone has exceeded Picard yet.
@@dustinwilson4815 Best captain? Kirk and Sisko for sure
You are so based for ranking The Twilight Zone S tier
You are so based for using a term like "based". TZ is one of the top ten shows of all times. That's pretty good for an industry that's around 70 years old.
The amount of ideas in that show is absolutely nuts. Most creatives struggle to produce one great idea and yet Serling was knocking them out regularly.
@@monkey39128 He didn't write all of them. "I Sing the Body Electric" was Ray Bradbury for example. At least 36 of the TZ stories were based on short stories by other authors.
@@stevelenores5637 Interesting. Definitely seems like something that'd be right up Bradbury's street.
_Battlestar Galactica_
We're rewatching it after 20 years. Great show.
@@thx01138 - I’ve watched it probably ten times 😑
…the remake, to be clear 👌
The original with Lorne Green or the remake??
Fantastic show
Up to the writer's strike was A. After was a C.
The Xfiles was absolutely phenomenal. The seasons without David I pretend don’t exist! 👽🛸
I didn't even know they made seasons without him and I watched most episodes back in the day. Amazing what you learn on the internet eh!
@@Holycurative9610 he left for about two seasons at the end, when Robert Patrick and Annabeth Gish came onboard. They’re not bad, per se, but I couldn’t get into those episodes without David.
The first 5 seasons were amazing and even the 1998 movie was pretty good. Seasons 6 and 7 were also watchable. Sadly, everything after that including the two revival seasons were trash.
@@EddieHenderson92 once I got past my hatred of the show attempting to move on without David Duchovny, I actually came to like John Doggett a lot. He had a good rapport with Scully. Monica Reyes, however, was just a joke. She had all the bizarre notions of Mulder, with none of the earnestness that made Mulder's character so endearing despite his kooky theories. (Although even I didn't think she deserved to have her character thrown under the bus in the revival seasons.)
It's good tthat Andrew added the wire, *given that the wire is the only S+ tier show.* Don't know why he didn't like season 4 though. It was amazing. The wire falls off in season 5 a bit with the journalist plot, but the wrap up of the story is still very fine.
Hopefully we'll get a video of Andrew ranking the greatest albums
Joshua Tree #1
New York based shows are always full of smarmy, arrogant and sarcastic characters who I would never like to meet in real life.
The office and Parks and rec are the two greatest shows ever made. Nothing can ever top their comedic genius.
Office > 30 Rock > Parks & Rec
The office was pure genius
I love The Office, but it does have a black eye on its legacy with those last two seasons without Michael. Also, Parks didn't have a very good final season but most of the seasons were great.
I was watching Parks and got thru 2 seasons think, waiting for the great show to appear
Parks and Rec is dripping with leftist propaganda. Terrible evil characters. I just rewatched and cringe that I used to like the show.
"Lost" is the genesis of modern television, it could have been a lot better but it was still riveting.
Homicide -Life on the Street
That’s right! It’s the most underrated show of all time
Better Call Saul was even better than Breaking Bad.
How!?! Loved Breaking bad but could barely get into BCS. Expected much more
It was good, but not iconic
@@anacc3257 better characters. There's no Skylar White in Better Call Saul.
I see it as one continued masterpiece along with El Camino. Kim Wexler is possibly the greatest TV character of all time. Both shows are absolute perfection.
Agreed.
I never really liked I Love Lucy or The PeeWee Show.
The Charlie Brown and Snoopy Show lol
This video gets a B for not including Better Call Saul. This show was more consistent, the cast ensemble acting was far better, it was more well written and more consistent. And although it didn’t say anything new about the human condition, it didn’t need to. It was the funniest crime drama to come to television, ever.
House Of Cards? Bates Motel? True Detective? Homeland? Fargo? Great shows not on this list. I’m sure I could think of more, but it shows you how people’s tastes differ.
no MR ROBOT ?
A couple of my favorites that didn't make this list are Rome and Justified.
You forgot Twin Peaks, Ozark and Maid
9:21 “I hate humiliation humor. I can’t stand to watch people being humiliated.”
Same here. That’s why I generally despise the movies of Paul Thomas Anderson, whose whole schtick is the cinema of humiliation.
should i be concerned that i have only watched one of these shows and i havent heard of half of them...? its south park btw.
No, but you should go watch them. The Sopranos, The Wire, Succession, currently watching Mad Men on my own-all super great shows!
He didn’t rank my favorite show, justified. S tier
@holdensmith2556 That's an S-tier comment.
NYPD Blue was not about dirty cops. Is about the redemption of Zipowitz. I didn't come up with that myself.
at first i was gonna say "i'll never subscribe!" coz you put game of thrones above breaking bad, but then i noticed all your feminist hate so maybe i'll subscribe after all.. eventually lol.
edit: oh wait, apparently i subscribed 5 minutes ago.. i'm drunk, leave me alone.
House of cards? Prison break? sons of anarchy?
Game of thrones: A
Breaking bad: S
Nobody did the "lie to another actor so the character is believable, but the audience can read the lie" better than Vic Mackey in the shield.
Man, the Daily Wire just doesn't like Seinfeld, lol. Ben, Knowles, and Walsh also didn't rate it too highly.
Seinfeld is a B????? Are you crazy?
I loved it back in the day. But when I watch it now, I find the characters profoundly annoying. Their selfishness gets on my nerves.
I'm the opposite. each time I rewatch Seinfeld I love it even more (except for season 9). I really think some people after decades still don't get what this show was about.
@@dustinwilson4815 That's the point 😅
Agreed
@@dustinwilson4815 I just rewatched the entire series on Netflix with my Scottish wife (who had never seen it) and I think it was even better the second time around, and she loved it too.
I still watch some of the old black-and-white episodes of Dragnet.
*The Andy Griffith Show* is the best show of all time
You didn't mention my favorite show of all, The Mary Tyler Moore Show. Funny, lighthearted, but also poignant. The entire cast was phenomenal!
So, Walter White puts Breaking Bad in the A tier.
Klavan died for our cringe. 🙏
Good one!
MASH? Honey mooners? Mary Tyler Moore? Fawlty Towers? greatest of all time is kind of crazy to claim
Monty Python is clearly S-tier. Most absurd sketch comedy ever, with Kids in the Hall a very close second. MASH was excellent in the first few seasons, but it went way past it's "Sell By" date.
Anyone notice how K loved shows with bald men?