Maybe I'm the only one, but where is Red Dead or Red Dead II on this list? Surprised that RDR2 wasn't on this list especially because it's one the best rated games of all time by critics and players.
I agree. I was kind of disappointed when RDR2 did not appear on this list. I consider Arthur Morgan one of the greatest video game protagonists of all time.
I’m actually thankful that Red Dead didn’t make the cut. I understand I’m in the minority, but those games were always just Okay to me. Good, but nothing outstanding
@@Sweetestsadistbro he literally said that the list isn’t his, it’s the “internet top games” and then he’s giving his own ranking. That was literally in like the first minute of the video.
@@scotch1993 Maybe I didn't explain it correctly. I'm pointing out that he isn't as knowledgeable as he's letting on. He's just name dropping other games he saw on the list and it's not impressive. He got several things incorrect to a Sarkeesian level with several of his comments on the games. He specifically praises the story of Greek mythology focused GoW games, then immediately says he thinks Kratos is Ares. He mispronounces Ico. He complains of Zelda's animation, a series that continually changes its art style. He says the second Prince of Persia is the "time travel" one when it's really about the 4th or 5th one. These are just the games I'm familiar with. A minor mistake, like the mispronunciation is excusable; but several that get things this wrong to this level, especially from at his age who's claiming to have played games his whole life wouldn't be this inaccurate. It's clear he just looked up a list and parroted opinions he saw in either in the article or the comments related to it just to get clicks out of the annual summer game hype.
@@Sweetestsadist those are all minor mistakes that I wouldn't expect anyone to have memorized, even if you or I do. And he genuinely has a gripe with the cartoonish style of Zelda games, he's mentioned it before
@@TheandY408 Those are not minor mistakes. Not all Zelda games are cartoonish, though. And that argument falls apart when you take the 2D games into consideration as they're no more cartoonish than the Mario games he praised. It shows he's clueless about one of the most popular franchises in the last 40 years. It's like saying you're a movie buff but you don't like any of the Star Wars movies because JarJar Binks is an annoying, badly animated cartoon character, and then praising Minions. Also, thinking that Kratos is Ares is not a minor mistake when you're specifically praising the story. The entire story of Kratos is that he wants revenge on the Gods, especially Ares, who betrayed him. His entire motivation is fueled by his hatred for Ares. Again, in Star Wars terms, one may as well say they love the first trilogy for it's amazing story but also think Luke Skywalker is Darth Vader when he takes off his helmet.
I'd give it a A, but B is fair enough. OOT is extremely overrated with millennial nostalgia. I never replay it cuz the story pacing at the beginning is so slow it ruins it, but if ur into epic world building it's a 10/10
If you offer me money to play the sims i wouldn’t do it it’s the most boring thing I’ve ever seen how people are capable of enjoying anything I wish I have this superpower life would be much easier
As a girl who played Zelda as a kid, where it remained the only video game I ever played until very recently, I feel owed a video of Klavan playing LoZ to make up for this ranking
@@rightinthedome9973 People who play the game do, as it's said and pronounced that way in the game. I do agree, that it's a minor nitpick. If that was the only thing he got wrong about the games he's talking about, I would've overlooked it; but time after time he gets things, some major, wrong about these games he claims to love.
@@Sweetestsadist I play ico and have never once said it that way or heard someone else say it. It's also Eye co or team Eye co. I've even heard it said ick o. Never EEco
Knowles and Walsh not so much. I like Shapiro for the pragmatic conservative commentary and Klavan for his nuanced cultural stuff. But I'm not that conservative (right of center liberal) so maybe thats why I don't find Knowles or Walsh that palatable.
I doubt he's played any of these outside of a half hour video for the RUclips algorithm. The more in-depth he gets on these games, the more he gets wrong.
Silent Hill 2 Dark Souls 1 FFVII Halo: Combat Evolved Kingdom Hearts 1 Super Metroid Bioshock Morrowind Terarria Risk of Rain 2 Just some of my favorites
I think Klavan would really enjoy Silent Hill 2. It took some themes from Crime and Punishment (mainly just the psychological impact of murder), and his previous claim of enjoying stories about love (and sex iirc) also reverbrate in SH2's story with enough subtleties as to not be plain gross.
@@joshuamedina503 2 was great, but I appreciate the simple (and clean) storyline of the first, before things started going off the rails. I really enjoy the combat of 1, though 2 improved upon it. I also think the worlds in 1 are superior to any in 2.
@@bnamsrom2I’d have to argue because nothing about any of the stories from any KH game is simple and clean. Just Nomura’s fever dreams. As for the world’s KH1 had Wonderland, Tarzan, Monstro and the greatest sin of all Atlantica. KH2 kicked the combat up to 11. Worlds were great minus Atlantica, but it was just extremely short and easy rhythm game, took about an hour tops.
My personal top 10 video games of all time: 1. Resident Evil 4 (2005) 2. Super Metroid 3. Super Mario Bros 3 4. Breath of the Wild 5. Ninja Gaiden Black 6. Metal Gear Solid 3 7. Chrono Trigger 8. Metroid Prime 9. Devil May Cry 3 10. Street Fighter 2
@@greygorygaming Do you think education would make me believe that "I needed a weight and he was there" is a good reason to burn someone alive? Kratos kills innocent people for no reason, without a second thought. I dunno where you got your morality from, but where I come from people who do that are villains, even if bigger villains exist elsewhere.
@@greygorygaming Anti-heroes usually fall into the "bad guy" category. That's why they're called "anti" heroes. You're confusing "anti-hero" with "protagonist" and "bad guy" with "antagonist". Educate yourself.
How did Minecraft not make this list? Nothing comes close to the incredible creative potential that game has, and it is also by far the best selling game of all time.
I'm still angry that Klavan hates Zelda and probably isn't aware of Metroid. Super Metroid and at least a few other entries in the franchise are arguably top 20's, maybe even top 10's.
Way back in the day I remember EGM (back when they were still relevant) had Super Metroid as #1 on their Greatest Games of All Time List (this was probably ~2000). It's what made me check out the game. Great decision! Still among the best designed worlds ever, despite so many other games copying its template.
I would just like to thank the editing team for the laughs I had while repeatedly watching Andrew say “Stick” and “Bob” and “Brick” and “Rod” as well as using a Goldeneye clip of someone being shot on the crotch. 😂
Sorry to see that Andrew did not comment on the Metal Gear Solid franchise, maybe because he has not played the games yet. But they’re very cinematic and extremely-detailed military thriller sneaking-games. The world is not fully realistic (there are advanced robots and supernatural things like ghosts) but the story constantly refers to things from the real world (politics, history, science) and features a lot of very clever social commentary. Most characters have realistic backstories and most things in the game have a valid reason for existing like you would not find in basically any other game. It is more sophisticated than most novels. In my opinion it is the greatest work of fiction ever created.
@@Art-is-craft I think he would love it. It is basically a very long movie where you control the main character. And the story is not just a nonsensical excuse to play as in most other video-games. It is something unique and wonderful. I must admit I was very surprised to see Andrew loves games like ICO so much, maybe I should give it a try.
Some overlooked games in no particular order: Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun Perfect Dark N64 DOOM Civilization series ARK 7 Days to Die Stardew Valley There are so many good games
The absence of any Halo game is criminal. The FPS genre becomes really household due to Halo multiplayer at the turn of the century. Call of Duty does not take off without the success of Combat Evolved and 2, while 3 is my favorite game of all time.
Who put this list together? There’s so many superb games missing: The Witcher 3, the Red Dead Redemption games, Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Half-Life 2, Portal 2, Disco: Elysium, the Mass Effect trilogy, Undertale, Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, Metal Gear Solid 1-3, most SOULSBORNE games, Sekiro, Elden Ring, Silent Hill 2, and so much more.
If a list of all-time great games doesn't have Portal 2, The Stanley Parable, or Zelda 3, the list is incomplete. I have half an argument for Pokemon 2 and for Paper Mario, but it's slightly different for RPGs, IMO.
@@461weavile I don't know a lot about the Pokemon or Paper Mario games but I do know some of them are very loved so I am interested in checking them out some day.
@AK-tw7uq Some of the best ones are hard to get right now. The one I would recommend is always extremely expensive; it's currently nearly $250 on amazon. There might be a better choice in the future, but instead of breaking the bank, I currently recommend buying Pokemon Sun or Pokemon Moon for the 3DS. (Edit: to be clear, my second choice is currently discontinued, so this is actually my third choice, but it's a really strong third choice; I bought four copies, and two additional systems, one copy for myself and three more to give as gifts after trying it.)
Everyone saying Kratos is a bad guy even in the newer iterations of the game is missing the point. His journey to redemption, of his actions to put aside his past in order to raise Atreus to be better than himself is the main story. Because we it goes to show that you can do the things Kratos did and still have hope that your children will do better where you failed. And that is further solidified where you can see Atreus keeping his father's lessons close to his heart- above all to "be better".
I've spent so many hours of my life playing the Sims franchise and the Batman Arkham games (especially Arkham City). Andrew said he played so much Tetris that he would walk around and put shapes together in his mind. After playing the Arkham games for so long, whenever I see a grate, I consider tearing it off the wall and climbing in.
Legend of Zelda is one of the greatest game series of all time. It does not have even one bad mainline game after 30 years. Though I would not necessarily argue with anyone who claims OOT is overrated. People loved GoldenEye because of the multiplayer. Fun fact, the multiplayer was not an approved part of the design and was hacked together by the devs just weeks before they finalized the game.
I think OoT is overrated, but I would argue with Klavan. The guy talks about Zelda like someone who just got into gaming circa GameCube and just parroted the "animation" complaint like that was the whole of the series.
I wouldn't say it's overrated (although it's not my favourite personally). I mean, it's basically the blueprint for so many games just in terms of gameplay mechanics. Target lock on, context sensitive buttons etc. The story and adventure for the time just blew people away.
Man, when Klavan talks games, I both clap with applause and cringe in disgust. On one hand, he gives shoutouts to games like Ico. On the other hand, he hates Zelda. And did he get confused between OOT and BotW? Also, he hates playing as bad guys and likes old Kratos?? Uh, what?
I’m fine with his opinions. Even if I don’t agree it’s refreshing just seeing a guy not bothered to like something just because it’s generally considered great
Mario ( most of them) Zelda (most of them) Metroid (most of them) Donkey Kong (most of them) Diablo 1&2 Grand Tourismo 3,4,5 Halo series Ninja Gaiden Xbox Red Dead Redemption series God of War series
God of War- S Sims-A Ico - S Modern Warfare- A Journey-B Prince of Persia -S Ocarina of Time- S Half-Life - A GTA- D Gears of War- S Super Mario 64-B Goldeneye007- A Resident Evil 4-S The Last Of Us-B Diablo II- A Monkey Island-B Tetris- S
You already broke my heart on triggernometry with answering my Zelda question 😢 but it's cool to see a conservative commentator actually talk about stuff like gaming
I know what Klavan means about GTA. I wish it wasn’t so cynical and negative all the time. But I love the variety of activities you can do in a vast open world game. And in GTA V, I liked how they added activities in throughout the game so you wouldn’t complete all of them in the first half leaving nothing but the main storyline after that. Lastly I liked the things you had to do to prepare for heists, like scouting the area, choosing a strategy, choosing crew members, planting a getaway car in a nearby location, and getting needed materials or vehicles. As for The Last of Us, I wonder if Klavan was a player who rushed through it without hearing most of the conversations that characters had or reading notes that added depth to characters and the environment. Someone who plays like that can’t appreciate the nuances of the plot because they simply never hear most of it. I thought it was beautiful how Joel began by resenting Ellie and treating her with impatience, but by the end he cared about her so much that he was willing to risk the extinction of the human race rather than have her die.
People get upset at your opinions but it’s refreshing to see a guy just say what’s in his mind instead of appeasing everyone. Some games I love most are: Old animal crossing Mario Kart (pretty much any) Yume Nikki Super Metroid Castlevania Aria of Sorrow Hollow Knight Castle Crashers Ocarina of Time Dead Cells
Making the last of us B tier is criminal. It is one of the best drama acting i have ever seen in any video games ever. Part 2 was crap, i agree but part 1 was dayum awesome. Try metal gear and witcher 3. You will love those.
Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are possibly the best games ever made. I’ve played a ton of games old and new, Zelda is the epitome to me. Super Metroid also is one of the best ever made, Metal Gear Solid, as well.
Did I miss the award winning MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV? Somehow I didn’t hear any final fantasy on that list. I’ve been a gamer since I had to sit in the laundromat in the 80’s playing centipede while my mom washed the clothes, and there are no games I love quite as much as the final fantasy series, especially XIV.
Ratchet & Clank 2: Going Commando Still to this day one of the funniest games I ever played. Outstanding gameplay, outstanding creativity. Almost a perfect game. Up there in S+ tier along with God of War
Obviously personal taste, but Super Mario Sunshine is my favorite, games that come close that I have played are Super Metroid, Metroid Zero Mission, Chrono Trigger, Wreckfest, Eternal Darkness, Okami, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, Super Mario World, Pokemon Platinum, GTA San Andreas, GTA Online, NASCAR Thunder 03, Mario Golf Toadstool Tour, Super Smash Bros Melee and Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword, and my first game, Luigi’s Mansion.
-10 points for putting Zelda at B +50 points for saying SMB3 is the better than SM64, but still recognizing that SM64 is an amazing game (my personal fave is SMW, but whatever)
Klavan saying Ico is “maybe the best game ever made” was validating (not that I care about being validated) on a surreal level. It may make up for his disregard for Zelda.
The Sims (4) has become infected and certain man-made chest scars were added, Jen Dur stuff and they are about to add polyamory. This is a game played by millions of young children! I hope parents are aware of this.
Bro does not understand that the grand theft auto games trumped every other game by miles the years they came out. You don’t have to kill or even interact with prostitutes in the game. I think it’s a little silly when people have this critique on video games but also enjoy other pieces of media like novels and movies that feature morally ambiguous protagonists
I still cannot believe there is another older, bald, conservative, born again Christian dude running around who knows and loves his video games! Hats off to you, brother!
Don't get me wrong Ocarina of Time is a great game, but I think Link to the Past beats it pretty easily. On another note there's a sad lack of 4th and 5th generation games. Chrono Trigger, Castlevania Symphony of the night, Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, and of course the previously mentioned The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past.
There are a lot of differences between Diablo 1 and Diablo 2, but the difference that makes D1 unplayable today is not the graphics, it's not the cinematic, it's not the story, it's that you WALK SO SLOW, D2 introduced running and nobody could ever go back
Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, Space Invaders, Dragon’s Lair, Star Wars, Asteroids, Mr. Do, Zork, and countless others. The internet craps on history older than yesterday.
My personal top 5 (I have a bit of a Nintendo bias so keep that in mind) 1.) Mother (FC) 2.) Mega Man V (Gameboy) 3.) Donkey Kong Country (SNES) 4.) Fatal Labyrinth (Genesis) 5.) Tie between Final Fantasy 1 (NES) and Smash Melee (Gamecube)
No elder scrolls games is ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL I love you Klavan, but my brother in Christ, there is no reality where anyone take your list seriously when it does have at least one of these games somewhere; Daggerfall Morrowind Oblivion Skyrim You cannot leave out what is considered one of the most influential series in gaming history. Some of These games broke records in their time and I’m pretty sure every single one of these won a game of the year award. Daggerfall had the largest map in any game, it was the size of England or something like that.
Stop overthinking it internet. Tetris, Goldeneye, and GTA 3 (maybe San Andreas!!!) I want to put Street Fighter 2 in there but the fighting game genre is only a little less niche than those damn Madden players.
The list of greatest games ever made is as follows: Chrono Trigger Resident Evil 4 GTAV Elden Ring If your name is not on the list please get to the back of the room and be seated
My Top 10 Games From The Games I have Played till date,There are Many Games which I haven't Played so this list can be different after few years. Assassin's Creed 2 X Men Origins Wolverine Days Gone Far Cry 4 The Evil Within 2 Alan Wake Portal 2 Dying Light Prototype Batman Arkham Knight
Klavan’s analysis is quite good as long as you don’t include the RPG genre. Even though he’s a novelist, he really doesn’t like or appreciate the RPG genre (his opinion is it’s too story driven, has too many cut scenes, and isn’t action oriented).
I used to consider World of Warcraft as the greatest game of all time at some point. It was the only game that actually got me addicted. But that was a long time ago, I played it during the Wrath, Cataclysm and Pandaria expansions. WoW definitely was one of the greatest too, but only until certain expansions. It changed too much over the decades.
I know it’s still less than a year old, but it did just win 2023 game of the year… it’s Baldur’s Gate 3. Some people think it is the best game of the decade. I love it.
People loved Goldeneye not so much for the story mode but because of the multiplayer mode. It was almost endless fun for my brothers and me as kids, more so for my brothers who were older and better. Almost endless because then Super Smash Brothers came out and that was THE game until we grew up.
I played more computer games than console games, so my list would include none of those on the list. Rather, I would include games like ... -- Fallout: New Vegas -- Elder Scrolls: Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim -- Mass Effect series -- Baldur's Gate series -- MMOs like World of Warcraft and Everquest -- Warcraft 3 -- Civilization II --- all the games in this series were great, but II was the one that I got addicted to the most. -- Syberia and Syberia II (awesome games nobody has ever heard of) -- The Longest Journey -- and going wayyyy back ..... Space Quest the series
Okay, I like Zelda, but I’m not gonna seethe and foam at the mouth when someone says they don’t like Zelda. Fantasy Adventure games aren’t for everyone.
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Maybe I'm the only one, but where is Red Dead or Red Dead II on this list? Surprised that RDR2 wasn't on this list especially because it's one the best rated games of all time by critics and players.
Id wonder where halo is.
I agree. I was kind of disappointed when RDR2 did not appear on this list. I consider Arthur Morgan one of the greatest video game protagonists of all time.
RDR2 is one of the best games I've ever played.
I’m actually thankful that Red Dead didn’t make the cut. I understand I’m in the minority, but those games were always just Okay to me. Good, but nothing outstanding
It's whatever
Damn, didn't expect Klavan to drop names like Braid, Limbo, Inside, Ico. I'm impressed!
Yes. He clearly did some research looking up someone else's top 100 list.
@@Sweetestsadistbro he literally said that the list isn’t his, it’s the “internet top games” and then he’s giving his own ranking. That was literally in like the first minute of the video.
@@scotch1993 Maybe I didn't explain it correctly. I'm pointing out that he isn't as knowledgeable as he's letting on. He's just name dropping other games he saw on the list and it's not impressive.
He got several things incorrect to a Sarkeesian level with several of his comments on the games. He specifically praises the story of Greek mythology focused GoW games, then immediately says he thinks Kratos is Ares. He mispronounces Ico. He complains of Zelda's animation, a series that continually changes its art style. He says the second Prince of Persia is the "time travel" one when it's really about the 4th or 5th one. These are just the games I'm familiar with.
A minor mistake, like the mispronunciation is excusable; but several that get things this wrong to this level, especially from at his age who's claiming to have played games his whole life wouldn't be this inaccurate. It's clear he just looked up a list and parroted opinions he saw in either in the article or the comments related to it just to get clicks out of the annual summer game hype.
@@Sweetestsadist those are all minor mistakes that I wouldn't expect anyone to have memorized, even if you or I do. And he genuinely has a gripe with the cartoonish style of Zelda games, he's mentioned it before
@@TheandY408 Those are not minor mistakes.
Not all Zelda games are cartoonish, though. And that argument falls apart when you take the 2D games into consideration as they're no more cartoonish than the Mario games he praised. It shows he's clueless about one of the most popular franchises in the last 40 years. It's like saying you're a movie buff but you don't like any of the Star Wars movies because JarJar Binks is an annoying, badly animated cartoon character, and then praising Minions.
Also, thinking that Kratos is Ares is not a minor mistake when you're specifically praising the story. The entire story of Kratos is that he wants revenge on the Gods, especially Ares, who betrayed him. His entire motivation is fueled by his hatred for Ares. Again, in Star Wars terms, one may as well say they love the first trilogy for it's amazing story but also think Luke Skywalker is Darth Vader when he takes off his helmet.
I liked Klavan right up until he had a brain aneurysm and gave Zelda a B.
I'd give it a A, but B is fair enough. OOT is extremely overrated with millennial nostalgia. I never replay it cuz the story pacing at the beginning is so slow it ruins it, but if ur into epic world building it's a 10/10
Klavan on The Sims: “it insists upon itself”
If you offer me money to play the sims i wouldn’t do it it’s the most boring thing I’ve ever seen
how people are capable of enjoying anything I wish I have this superpower life would be much easier
As a girl who played Zelda as a kid, where it remained the only video game I ever played until very recently, I feel owed a video of Klavan playing LoZ to make up for this ranking
Just sounds like you weren’t exposed to that many good games
Zelda was a great game. One of the best ever
He must play the best one too; Twilight Princess
An ICO name drop is very impressive, a lot of game developers talk about how inspirational that game is to them
He named dropped "Eye-co". I didn't hear him mention Ico (pronounces "ee-ko") at all.
God I wanted to love it so. But I sucked and gave up on it
Nobody says eeco get over yourself
@@rightinthedome9973 People who play the game do, as it's said and pronounced that way in the game. I do agree, that it's a minor nitpick. If that was the only thing he got wrong about the games he's talking about, I would've overlooked it; but time after time he gets things, some major, wrong about these games he claims to love.
@@Sweetestsadist I play ico and have never once said it that way or heard someone else say it. It's also Eye co or team Eye co. I've even heard it said ick o. Never EEco
Andrew Klavan and Michael Knowles carrying the daily wire on their backs
Knowles and Walsh not so much. I like Shapiro for the pragmatic conservative commentary and Klavan for his nuanced cultural stuff. But I'm not that conservative (right of center liberal) so maybe thats why I don't find Knowles or Walsh that palatable.
Just Klavan
But how do you spell Klaven?
Sure, as long as you don't take views and membership numbers into account.
@@spindoctor6385 They're doing fine.
Years of Tetris made me an expert in loading trucks whenever we moved. Thanks, Alexey Pajitnov!
Sounds like Andrew has never played Ocarina of Time and thinks it is just Breath of the Wild.
Oot is a very different game to BotW.
I doubt he's played any of these outside of a half hour video for the RUclips algorithm. The more in-depth he gets on these games, the more he gets wrong.
You walk a lot in ocarina of time. The one thing that game needed was a fast travel system.
@@sawyerslack9782
It has a fast travel system.
Play it much?
Or did you want the fast travel up front with no exploration?
Yeah, only the 2 most recent zelda games are open world. The 10+ before that aren't, including the one he was meant to be ranking.
@@sawyerslack9782you can warp with ocarina and portals and ride on horseback
Halo 3 not being on this list is criminal
2 is way better
2 Is the GOAT
Top of the list, IMO as well. That said, I think Kingdom Come: Deliverance belongs on the list.
2 is so much better than 3.
:CE is better than both of them combined.
Klavan's takes on Zelda always hurt my soul. I share his hate for GTA though.
Im am
Silent Hill 2
Dark Souls 1
FFVII
Halo: Combat Evolved
Kingdom Hearts 1
Super Metroid
Bioshock
Morrowind
Terarria
Risk of Rain 2
Just some of my favorites
I think Klavan would really enjoy Silent Hill 2. It took some themes from Crime and Punishment (mainly just the psychological impact of murder), and his previous claim of enjoying stories about love (and sex iirc) also reverbrate in SH2's story with enough subtleties as to not be plain gross.
Kingdom Hearts 1 over 2? You’re crazy. Both were great; 2 was better
Super Metroid is well deserving of GOAT tier game.
@@joshuamedina503 2 was great, but I appreciate the simple (and clean) storyline of the first, before things started going off the rails. I really enjoy the combat of 1, though 2 improved upon it. I also think the worlds in 1 are superior to any in 2.
@@bnamsrom2I’d have to argue because nothing about any of the stories from any KH game is simple and clean. Just Nomura’s fever dreams. As for the world’s KH1 had Wonderland, Tarzan, Monstro and the greatest sin of all Atlantica. KH2 kicked the combat up to 11. Worlds were great minus Atlantica, but it was just extremely short and easy rhythm game, took about an hour tops.
My personal top 10 video games of all time:
1. Resident Evil 4 (2005)
2. Super Metroid
3. Super Mario Bros 3
4. Breath of the Wild
5. Ninja Gaiden Black
6. Metal Gear Solid 3
7. Chrono Trigger
8. Metroid Prime
9. Devil May Cry 3
10. Street Fighter 2
whats even so good about botw tho?
@@slothminion4620 your mother
Didn’t expect Andrew Klavan to be a gamer
Didn’t expect Andrew Klavan to be a spineless coward. Christ is King
@@blitzkreig4887look everyone, it's an impotent Nazi!
You new to the Daily Wire?
@@blitzkreig4887so you just hate watch him then?
@@DNYLNY I got recommended the video because i love games and I used to be subscribed to Klavan. Christ is King
Klaven: likes God of War
Also Klaven: "I hate playing bad guys."
What?
Also, thinks Kratos is Ares.
One is based in Greek mythology and one is based in reality
Kratos is an anti-hero. The gods are the bad guys. Educate yourself.
@@greygorygaming Do you think education would make me believe that "I needed a weight and he was there" is a good reason to burn someone alive? Kratos kills innocent people for no reason, without a second thought. I dunno where you got your morality from, but where I come from people who do that are villains, even if bigger villains exist elsewhere.
@@greygorygaming Anti-heroes usually fall into the "bad guy" category. That's why they're called "anti" heroes.
You're confusing "anti-hero" with "protagonist" and "bad guy" with "antagonist".
Educate yourself.
How did Minecraft not make this list? Nothing comes close to the incredible creative potential that game has, and it is also by far the best selling game of all time.
Nice game for kids who will never use the games mechanics to it's fullest potential.
I'm still angry that Klavan hates Zelda and probably isn't aware of Metroid. Super Metroid and at least a few other entries in the franchise are arguably top 20's, maybe even top 10's.
Ok but he likes Prince of Persia so maybe I'll forgive him.
@@educationalporpoises9592He thinks the "time travel" game is the second one in the series.
@@Sweetestsadist
As he stated when there are lots of games in a series it can blend together.
Way back in the day I remember EGM (back when they were still relevant) had Super Metroid as #1 on their Greatest Games of All Time List (this was probably ~2000). It's what made me check out the game. Great decision! Still among the best designed worlds ever, despite so many other games copying its template.
I would just like to thank the editing team for the laughs I had while repeatedly watching Andrew say “Stick” and “Bob” and “Brick” and “Rod” as well as using a Goldeneye clip of someone being shot on the crotch. 😂
Sorry to see that Andrew did not comment on the Metal Gear Solid franchise, maybe because he has not played the games yet. But they’re very cinematic and extremely-detailed military thriller sneaking-games. The world is not fully realistic (there are advanced robots and supernatural things like ghosts) but the story constantly refers to things from the real world (politics, history, science) and features a lot of very clever social commentary. Most characters have realistic backstories and most things in the game have a valid reason for existing like you would not find in basically any other game. It is more sophisticated than most novels.
In my opinion it is the greatest work of fiction ever created.
I do not think he would like it due to the long dialog.
@@Art-is-craft I think he would love it. It is basically a very long movie where you control the main character. And the story is not just a nonsensical excuse to play as in most other video-games. It is something unique and wonderful.
I must admit I was very surprised to see Andrew loves games like ICO so much, maybe I should give it a try.
Doesn't like Zelda? I haven't seen an old man lose ALL credibility so quickly since... well, the debate last night.
Dang, no love for RDR or RDR 2?!
Some overlooked games in no particular order:
Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun
Perfect Dark N64
DOOM
Civilization series
ARK
7 Days to Die
Stardew Valley
There are so many good games
The absence of any Halo game is criminal. The FPS genre becomes really household due to Halo multiplayer at the turn of the century. Call of Duty does not take off without the success of Combat Evolved and 2, while 3 is my favorite game of all time.
Where are these games at: Halo, Doom, Dark Souls, Elden Ring, Oblivion, Skyrim, PUBG, Bad Company 2, Borderlands 2
PUBG was A tier to me. The rest S, thought I haven’t played bad company 2 or Borderlands 2, but they seem to be up there
I can see BL2, but the rest of them games are meh
Except Halo. Halo's good
@@johnnythewalrus Halo is definitely S. I would put Elden Ring as S, Oblivion also. Skyrim was very good but maybe A+
Wow, LoL etc
Did he really put COD over Zelda?
He hates Zelda
I would
he hates open world games
Preferences
Halo 2 is the greatest game of all time.
This is objective btw, so don’t bother arguing.
Finally someone speaks the truth
Who put this list together? There’s so many superb games missing: The Witcher 3, the Red Dead Redemption games, Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Half-Life 2, Portal 2, Disco: Elysium, the Mass Effect trilogy, Undertale, Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, Metal Gear Solid 1-3, most SOULSBORNE games, Sekiro, Elden Ring, Silent Hill 2, and so much more.
I haven’t played all of the games you listed, but Chrono Trigger is a certified banger and arguably the best soundtrack in gaming.
If a list of all-time great games doesn't have Portal 2, The Stanley Parable, or Zelda 3, the list is incomplete. I have half an argument for Pokemon 2 and for Paper Mario, but it's slightly different for RPGs, IMO.
@@461weavile I don't know a lot about the Pokemon or Paper Mario games but I do know some of them are very loved so I am interested in checking them out some day.
@AK-tw7uq Some of the best ones are hard to get right now. The one I would recommend is always extremely expensive; it's currently nearly $250 on amazon. There might be a better choice in the future, but instead of breaking the bank, I currently recommend buying Pokemon Sun or Pokemon Moon for the 3DS. (Edit: to be clear, my second choice is currently discontinued, so this is actually my third choice, but it's a really strong third choice; I bought four copies, and two additional systems, one copy for myself and three more to give as gifts after trying it.)
Undertale...
Everyone saying Kratos is a bad guy even in the newer iterations of the game is missing the point. His journey to redemption, of his actions to put aside his past in order to raise Atreus to be better than himself is the main story. Because we it goes to show that you can do the things Kratos did and still have hope that your children will do better where you failed. And that is further solidified where you can see Atreus keeping his father's lessons close to his heart- above all to "be better".
Gow 2 is best game of all times!!
Anyone who dissagre will feel the Power of blade of Olympus!
I've spent so many hours of my life playing the Sims franchise and the Batman Arkham games (especially Arkham City). Andrew said he played so much Tetris that he would walk around and put shapes together in his mind. After playing the Arkham games for so long, whenever I see a grate, I consider tearing it off the wall and climbing in.
One time I blinked and for a split second my vision entered Detective Mode irl
Legend of Zelda is one of the greatest game series of all time. It does not have even one bad mainline game after 30 years. Though I would not necessarily argue with anyone who claims OOT is overrated.
People loved GoldenEye because of the multiplayer. Fun fact, the multiplayer was not an approved part of the design and was hacked together by the devs just weeks before they finalized the game.
It’s good, great even. But many entries do come off as baby games for babies so I can see why some may not like them.
I like them though
I think OoT is overrated, but I would argue with Klavan. The guy talks about Zelda like someone who just got into gaming circa GameCube and just parroted the "animation" complaint like that was the whole of the series.
@@SweetestsadistI’d agree with you OoT is super overrated
I wouldn't say it's overrated (although it's not my favourite personally). I mean, it's basically the blueprint for so many games just in terms of gameplay mechanics. Target lock on, context sensitive buttons etc. The story and adventure for the time just blew people away.
@@JudoP_slinging Overrated by no means makes it a bad game. But so many call it the greatest game when it is not even the best Zelda game.
Games left off the list:
City of Heroes
SimCity 2000
Dune 2000
Command & Conquer
"I love puzzle games"
"I dont like Legend of Zelda"
Whut
I need the Klavan's take on Kingdom Come Deliverance and then see him play the 2nd one when it comes out later this year
Man, when Klavan talks games, I both clap with applause and cringe in disgust. On one hand, he gives shoutouts to games like Ico. On the other hand, he hates Zelda. And did he get confused between OOT and BotW? Also, he hates playing as bad guys and likes old Kratos?? Uh, what?
I’m fine with his opinions. Even if I don’t agree it’s refreshing just seeing a guy not bothered to like something just because it’s generally considered great
Being a real life criminal is a lot different from being a fallen god hack and slashing other mythological characters
Mario ( most of them)
Zelda (most of them)
Metroid (most of them)
Donkey Kong (most of them)
Diablo 1&2
Grand Tourismo 3,4,5
Halo series
Ninja Gaiden Xbox
Red Dead Redemption series
God of War series
God of War- S
Sims-A
Ico - S
Modern Warfare- A
Journey-B
Prince of Persia -S
Ocarina of Time- S
Half-Life - A
GTA- D
Gears of War- S
Super Mario 64-B
Goldeneye007- A
Resident Evil 4-S
The Last Of Us-B
Diablo II- A
Monkey Island-B
Tetris- S
You already broke my heart on triggernometry with answering my Zelda question 😢 but it's cool to see a conservative commentator actually talk about stuff like gaming
I know what Klavan means about GTA. I wish it wasn’t so cynical and negative all the time. But I love the variety of activities you can do in a vast open world game. And in GTA V, I liked how they added activities in throughout the game so you wouldn’t complete all of them in the first half leaving nothing but the main storyline after that. Lastly I liked the things you had to do to prepare for heists, like scouting the area, choosing a strategy, choosing crew members, planting a getaway car in a nearby location, and getting needed materials or vehicles.
As for The Last of Us, I wonder if Klavan was a player who rushed through it without hearing most of the conversations that characters had or reading notes that added depth to characters and the environment. Someone who plays like that can’t appreciate the nuances of the plot because they simply never hear most of it. I thought it was beautiful how Joel began by resenting Ellie and treating her with impatience, but by the end he cared about her so much that he was willing to risk the extinction of the human race rather than have her die.
If Klavan was scared by Resident Evil, I wonder how he'd feel if he played Silent Hill 2.
People get upset at your opinions but it’s refreshing to see a guy just say what’s in his mind instead of appeasing everyone.
Some games I love most are:
Old animal crossing
Mario Kart (pretty much any)
Yume Nikki
Super Metroid
Castlevania Aria of Sorrow Hollow Knight
Castle Crashers
Ocarina of Time
Dead Cells
the list should be all _Zelda_ and _Donkey Kong Country…_ maybe some _Resident Evil_ or _Metal Gear Solid._
Making the last of us B tier is criminal. It is one of the best drama acting i have ever seen in any video games ever. Part 2 was crap, i agree but part 1 was dayum awesome. Try metal gear and witcher 3. You will love those.
I will never watch a Klavan video game review without requesting that Klavan play Hellblade
Bioshock is the goat imo
7:36 I think you mean SUPA MARIO BRUDDAS 2 BABYYYYY
ITS STILL DA KING!
Seeing a Dunkey reference here makes me happy.
Knack is better.
@@Sweetestsadist Gex is better, actually.
Skyrim????
Mario 64, Mario Bros 3, Perfect Dark, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe with all dlc. Maybe throw in one rpg-ish style game like Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door.
There is no cow level.
Red Dead Redemption 2. The greatest story in video games and one of, if not the best game of all time.
Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are possibly the best games ever made. I’ve played a ton of games old and new, Zelda is the epitome to me. Super Metroid also is one of the best ever made, Metal Gear Solid, as well.
Did I miss the award winning MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV? Somehow I didn’t hear any final fantasy on that list. I’ve been a gamer since I had to sit in the laundromat in the 80’s playing centipede while my mom washed the clothes, and there are no games I love quite as much as the final fantasy series, especially XIV.
1. Megamania
2. Galaga
3. Robotron 2084
4. Wizard of War
5. Kangaroo
6. Berzerk
7. Demons to Diamonds
8. Dig Dug
9. BurgerTime
10. Centipede
I thought Klaven was old?
So you put Legend of Zelda on the same tier as Monkey Island? Tsk tsk. I thought your taste was better than that.
Ratchet & Clank 2: Going Commando
Still to this day one of the funniest games I ever played. Outstanding gameplay, outstanding creativity. Almost a perfect game. Up there in S+ tier along with God of War
WHERE IS MASS EFFECT?!1?
Obviously personal taste, but Super Mario Sunshine is my favorite, games that come close that I have played are Super Metroid, Metroid Zero Mission, Chrono Trigger, Wreckfest, Eternal Darkness, Okami, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, Super Mario World, Pokemon Platinum, GTA San Andreas, GTA Online, NASCAR Thunder 03, Mario Golf Toadstool Tour, Super Smash Bros Melee and Brawl, Mario Kart Wii, Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword, and my first game, Luigi’s Mansion.
Who knew?? Andrew Klavan plays video games??? The high-cultured genius?? Just...Wow!
-10 points for putting Zelda at B
+50 points for saying SMB3 is the better than SM64, but still recognizing that SM64 is an amazing game (my personal fave is SMW, but whatever)
Metal gear solid Klavan....
Nah that's it your opinion doesn't count. You gave ocarina of time top 5 games ever a b tier but put ico on s tier which isn't even a top 10 game smh
Klavan saying Ico is “maybe the best game ever made” was validating (not that I care about being validated) on a surreal level. It may make up for his disregard for Zelda.
Mario 64, NHL 94, Tecmo Bowl, Mortal Kombat 2
The Sims (4) has become infected and certain man-made chest scars were added, Jen Dur stuff and they are about to add polyamory. This is a game played by millions of young children! I hope parents are aware of this.
Bro does not understand that the grand theft auto games trumped every other game by miles the years they came out. You don’t have to kill or even interact with prostitutes in the game. I think it’s a little silly when people have this critique on video games but also enjoy other pieces of media like novels and movies that feature morally ambiguous protagonists
Zelda take is awful man 😂 such a great game
I still cannot believe there is another older, bald, conservative, born again Christian dude running around who knows and loves his video games! Hats off to you, brother!
Don't get me wrong Ocarina of Time is a great game, but I think Link to the Past beats it pretty easily.
On another note there's a sad lack of 4th and 5th generation games. Chrono Trigger, Castlevania Symphony of the night, Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, and of course the previously mentioned The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past.
There are a lot of differences between Diablo 1 and Diablo 2, but the difference that makes D1 unplayable today is not the graphics, it's not the cinematic, it's not the story, it's that you WALK SO SLOW, D2 introduced running and nobody could ever go back
Respectable, but the Zelda series lives above S tier.
No Sonic, Final Fantasy, or Doom on this list? Lame.
Sid Meier’s Civilization should’ve been on the list. Points taken off for level of addictiveness.
Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, Space Invaders, Dragon’s Lair, Star Wars, Asteroids, Mr. Do, Zork, and countless others. The internet craps on history older than yesterday.
Who tf told him Journey was a “puzzle game”..? 😂
Andrew you should play Battlefield 1 great ww1 game with an epic soundtrack the only down side is that you can play as Greece and Bulgaria
You forgot the only game you'll ever need: The Elder Scrolls III
My personal top 5 (I have a bit of a Nintendo bias so keep that in mind)
1.) Mother (FC)
2.) Mega Man V (Gameboy)
3.) Donkey Kong Country (SNES)
4.) Fatal Labyrinth (Genesis)
5.) Tie between Final Fantasy 1 (NES) and Smash Melee (Gamecube)
The fact that Andrew Klavan has played ICO shocks me. What a game.
No elder scrolls games is ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL
I love you Klavan, but my brother in Christ, there is no reality where anyone take your list seriously when it does have at least one of these games somewhere;
Daggerfall
Morrowind
Oblivion
Skyrim
You cannot leave out what is considered one of the most influential series in gaming history.
Some of These games broke records in their time and I’m pretty sure every single one of these won a game of the year award.
Daggerfall had the largest map in any game, it was the size of England or something like that.
Stop overthinking it internet. Tetris, Goldeneye, and GTA 3 (maybe San Andreas!!!)
I want to put Street Fighter 2 in there but the fighting game genre is only a little less niche than those damn Madden players.
Wait, Andrew Klavan plays video games??
He's forced to buy yes.
He’s always been a gamer. He says it’s the best version of a choose your own adventure kind of thing.
I watch this video for his thoughts on Zelda 😐
Klavan is a man of culture and sees that video games can purvey art. Love ya!
The list of greatest games ever made is as follows:
Chrono Trigger
Resident Evil 4
GTAV
Elden Ring
If your name is not on the list please get to the back of the room and be seated
This is why Klavan is the best DW host. Also, the fact that the stands for what is true regardless of the detractors.
Realms the haunting, the last game to give me a genuine jump scare.
Damn near fell out my seat.
You put OoT in B-Tier?! How dare you sir! You take that back this instant!
No The Wither 3?! No Warcraft 3?! Nothing from souls games?! Minecraft?!
My Top 10 Games From The Games I have Played till date,There are Many Games which I haven't Played so this list can be different after few years.
Assassin's Creed 2
X Men Origins Wolverine
Days Gone
Far Cry 4
The Evil Within 2
Alan Wake
Portal 2
Dying Light
Prototype
Batman Arkham Knight
Klavan’s analysis is quite good as long as you don’t include the RPG genre. Even though he’s a novelist, he really doesn’t like or appreciate the RPG genre (his opinion is it’s too story driven, has too many cut scenes, and isn’t action oriented).
I used to consider World of Warcraft as the greatest game of all time at some point. It was the only game that actually got me addicted. But that was a long time ago, I played it during the Wrath, Cataclysm and Pandaria expansions. WoW definitely was one of the greatest too, but only until certain expansions. It changed too much over the decades.
I know it’s still less than a year old, but it did just win 2023 game of the year…
it’s Baldur’s Gate 3. Some people think it is the best game of the decade. I love it.
People loved Goldeneye not so much for the story mode but because of the multiplayer mode. It was almost endless fun for my brothers and me as kids, more so for my brothers who were older and better. Almost endless because then Super Smash Brothers came out and that was THE game until we grew up.
Red Dead Redemption 2 is a must play. Somebody make him play it all the way through.
I played more computer games than console games, so my list would include none of those on the list. Rather, I would include games like ...
-- Fallout: New Vegas
-- Elder Scrolls: Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim
-- Mass Effect series
-- Baldur's Gate series
-- MMOs like World of Warcraft and Everquest
-- Warcraft 3
-- Civilization II --- all the games in this series were great, but II was the one that I got addicted to the most.
-- Syberia and Syberia II (awesome games nobody has ever heard of)
-- The Longest Journey
-- and going wayyyy back ..... Space Quest the series
Okay, I like Zelda, but I’m not gonna seethe and foam at the mouth when someone says they don’t like Zelda.
Fantasy Adventure games aren’t for everyone.
Heresy! B for Ocarina of Time is ridiculous!😅
Klavan brutally leaves GTA unranked.
Grim Fandango?
No Sonic or Lara Croft?