Tera, Lumi Rank, Delfino & More ft Glutonny
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- Опубликовано: 31 авг 2023
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Gluto's analytical mind being unfold before us is a blessing. You can clearly see that this guy has a very clear and studied view on smash. Lots of valuable thoughts in this conversation, thank you.
Gluto was speaking facts about the ranking acola over spargo
I wouldn’t say that. Although Spargo does have the head to head set record on him, even omitting the results, Acola simply had the better head to head against the top players which is shown in his player card. Therefore, acola is the better player when fighting other top players because the likeliness of him getting upset is weak rather than with Spargo! 😃 That’s why he’s number 1.
@@grimxdisstracks3178i don’t completely agree with gluto, but that’s not what he’s saying, he’s saying that spargo displays more skill with his character, but since steve has easier matchups, acola doesn’t need to display the same skill with his character to perform better than spargo in tournaments
@@shawnkeo2817you put it perfectly wow
@@shawnkeo2817 I see… that makes way more sense now that I understand what he’s saying. I still don’t see it considering that cloud’s match up chart is almost as good as Steve’s if you look real closely!
@@grimxdisstracks3178 interesting, i don’t completely agree with gluto because i think it’s a really slippery slope to rank people like that and it become a lot more subjective. but now i’m wonder whether you don’t value steve that much or you really value cloud
I didn't think about how Europe had it rough that way - it'll be hard to get ranked if your tournaments don't matter, and it's hard to make your tournaments matter if nobody playing is ranked.
Lets go Leo and Gluto the best duo!
So happy to see you getting in the streaming scene Leo! You're such a good guy and it's always great to see you.
In my opinion I think Sparg0 is better skill wise and Acola is better in results which is really the only thing that matters on ranking so Acola being ranked higher is justifiable.
Acola played better on the character select screen
Im really glad that recently, the have been bigger tournaments in europe, it used to be that "eu majors" didnt really matter, but now they actually have international appeal which i think is great
Could listen to these two talk smash all day.
Gluto just so casually saying that acola is unskilled is so funny to me 😂
Acola is skilled at smash idc what you say
That’s really not what he said lol
He said he doesn't need to show as much skill as spargo because since steve just skips certain aspects of the game we don't know if acola is good at them or not because he doesn't need to do it, he didn't say acola isn't skilled, in fact he is one of the people that recognize acola's skill during his set analysis when he displays an understanding of the game like a read, conditioning, option coverage etc
@@julesm5892Acola is very skilled. It's just that picking a usefull secondary for Acola is difficult because no other character in Ultimate feels the same as Steve
That's not what he said at all. He's saying it's hard to compare them since Steve plays his own game.
Going to Japan is rough for Americans because they don't have big prizes there. The only way you can really afford to do it is if your org pays for it
Leo Spargo got last at summit and missed top 8 at crown. Acola didn't miss a top 8 all season. So winning Kagaribi doesn't solidify him as #1. His h2h vs Acola doesn't matter since he has worst placings.
This one had the spice,
tasty short podcast.
My 2 favourite players ❤
🐐 🐐
Goats.
even though he's far from being the best player in the world for me gluto is the best at understanding the game and that plays into him having the best adaptation in the world and it makes him the most likely player to comeback a game even without waft ( it helps but he has shown he could do it without), maybe there are some that I am not aware of that are similar in that aspect, maybe jp players because I don't know the scene as much as the na and eu one.
I truly believe that if ultimate lasts for like two more years gluto will become the best player in the world at some point or at least enter the conversation
Maybe Gluto isn't the "best player", but "far from being" it wtf ? 🤣
@@phtm_151 maybe "far" is a bit much but let's be real here he hasn't won a big major since pound a year and a half ago and he doesn't have a positive record on the top 10 as a whole, yes he is in that tier but nobody can say he's the best player right, he's not even in the conversation it's spargo acola and then maybe sonix in the near future depending on what his first encounter with acola is gonna look like
@@julesm5892I’d agree that as the game goes on i think gluto will only get better. Since he is such a well studied player, the more he plays against people the better he gets against them and you can see that with his recent performances versus Leo and Tweek, he even finally overcame tea recently. There are just a few players he still can’t beat like shuton and sonix but I’m sure with enough time he will eventually find a way, at which point he will definitely be a contender for the best.
@@fractril5720 if you look at his set against shuton and sonix at smash factor and the ones before, you know it's just a matter of time for shuton as gluto is actually winning now without double purple whereas before he was just getting bodied, once he figures double purple out it's over, and sonix it's getting closer and closer each time, he i doing so much in the matchup even though he loses at some point gluto will play so perfectly we will wonder how it's even possible to play to that level, at this point he will be the best player in the world for me, I know it's not gonna happen this year but next year maybe
come on he's really not that far about from the best. He destroyed everyone in Delfino Plaza, he even 3-0d Leo easily. The only player he lost are people ranked hgher than him and it's close.
Que cabron gluto diciendo hola papu😂
jajaj ya se, me recordo a mi y mis compas en el 2016, diciendonos papu
idk u really cant get fairer than lumirank. the bias of three different algorithms is far smaller than the bias of a panel or a person.
Melee would love to have three different algorithms over a small bias panel that literally rewards you for not attending a tournament. If anything , they punish you for over attending or for having "bad head to heads" even if you are consisten. For example , lets say you get to Top 8 all the time and somehow even manage to get Top 2 or Top 3 in a tournament , but because you lose to the Top 1-2 players or lose to players that are good against you , they punish you for having negative head to heads rather than rewarding you your consistency. So they would rather have me been up 1-0 against most top players and barely making it to top 8 lmao.
@@henryreturns1397melee rankings post COVID have been a joke
Like mid 2022 they put jmook over hbox even though hbox out placed jmook at every single tournament outside of Genesis 8
Also apparently they didn't factor in mango throwing at Genesis 9 and getting 97th lmao, circle jerk is what is sounds like.
I will say the melee top 10 for 2022 end rankings was very good.
Gluto def feels like top 10 tho
the thing about gluto is that it feels like he could win against everybody at any given time and he rarely loses to players ranked under him except for a few demon brackets like maister and bloom, also he definitely didn't get top 10 this season because of attendance, that's the only reason, if he had went to japan during golden week and got both top 8 or even just one which is very likely he would have ranked like 8th over riddles if not more
top 5
Currently he is no doubt top 8. His improvement over some of his worst matchups is gonna elevate him higher. Not to mention he is starting to become incredibly consistent in winning against killers like Leo and Tweek. He could genuinely win a supermajor if he doesn't run into Acola or Sonix which is unlikely these days
for tera this weekend he probably loses to yoshidora in top 8 winner qualifier, tears through losers and beats like tweek and light/zomba which he is heavily favored to win, gets his runback, gets to gf against spargo and then it's 50/50 I want to say, if he does that with his smash factor and delfino there are going to be serious discussions for top 5 I think
@@julesm5892 comming here after his run at tera to say he's definitely top 5 rn
I think top players are on some massive copium when they say theybdint care about rank. I get that it might not be what gets you up in the morning but you are a competitor. Your rank is just short hand for you beat alot of players so if that is what you care about that is what rank kind of represents
yea but I understand Gluto sometimes the ranks can be very bs like yoshidora being at 10th rank despite only attending 1 NA tournament and the rest of his tourneys being in Japan. Gluto only cares about his wins and it’s a way better mentality to have and you end up more satisfied that way
they get triggered by placing then try to pretend to not "care". wow is not like this was a permanent feature of basically every top player ever at some point 😐
@@hecty8667yoshidora 100% deserved top ten his results were so strong in such a difficult region and he got top 8 at BOBC where almost every top player except Japanese players underperformed besides Master, Zomba and Sparg0. And Lumirank uses 3 different algorithms like there is no bias Yoshidora deserved top ten
@@hecty8667 Most of Gluto's tournaments were in Europe, which is the weakest region out of all three by far. He has some smelly losses there too, why don't yall give him stick for that? Because he gets fourth in the second best region sometimes?
Obvious bias is obvious. I'm glad your top players are going over there more now so y'all can be exposed
@@lokks2130Gluto not losing against a single sub-top 50 player = smelly losses ? 🤣🤣