What makes PPMD's playstyle unique? PPMD Video Analysis.

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • After the recent interview and in preparation PPMD's return I decided to analyze some of his unique strengths and weaknesses as a player.
    I know its a bit long but some people requested that I upload this anyway.
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Комментарии • 162

  • @bootlegpersona8204
    @bootlegpersona8204 7 лет назад +96

    "Don't be on the fucking platforms, bitch" like two minutes in. This is gonna be a good video.

  • @danaltamirano2546
    @danaltamirano2546 7 лет назад +299

    If you paste the perfect neutral game of ppmd, to the edge guarding and punish game of m2k, you have an invincible marth.

    • @MaiBeUploading
      @MaiBeUploading 7 лет назад

      dan altamirano q

    • @xSCOOTERx2
      @xSCOOTERx2 7 лет назад +5

      That would be a sight to see.

    • @Booksisgreat
      @Booksisgreat 7 лет назад +74

      PP2King

    • @thelaw3536
      @thelaw3536 7 лет назад +5

      dan altamirano
      As stated in the video no one is perfect. In the video Leffen shows what happens when what he does doesn't work. It's good and unorthodox, however things like retreating Fairs would help a lot.

    • @choicespecseltonjohn3356
      @choicespecseltonjohn3356 7 лет назад +10

      Some of PPMD's punishes are better but yes edge guarding is completely m2k

  • @Tophbbq
    @Tophbbq 7 лет назад +209

    dude I said "strong Ken combo" not "strong hit combo" ROFL

  • @IGOTASHOTGUN1
    @IGOTASHOTGUN1 7 лет назад +84

    It's really interesting to see PP focussing so hard on neutral game when a lot of the other top players are very punish game focussed, nice insight

    • @desyncer
      @desyncer 7 лет назад +15

      This is why PP is the greatest. You can't punish if you are always losing neutral.

    • @sinjihnsmith74
      @sinjihnsmith74 7 лет назад +2

      only problem is you cant win in neutral forever, and one punish is all some players need to win a stock

    • @voltekka47
      @voltekka47 7 лет назад +10

      +Sinjihn Smith That doesn't really matter when you win the neutral much more than your opponent does.

    • @thelaw3536
      @thelaw3536 7 лет назад +1

      Sinjihn Smith
      Also it doesn't effect Marth as much as Fox and Falco and Falco (his other character) combos as a given.

    • @IronicHavoc
      @IronicHavoc 7 лет назад

      Jordan Silverman Every top player I've heard talk about PP gushes over his neutral game. He's well known for it

  • @poketto5853
    @poketto5853 7 лет назад +20

    We need more of these kind of analysis

  • @evansballer15
    @evansballer15 7 лет назад +20

    the only thing more hype than pp reads are hearing other gods say how unreal his intuition is

  • @UltraSalamenece
    @UltraSalamenece 7 лет назад +5

    I have been trying to understand ppmd play style for so long thank you very much for making a video about it

  • @JeffTygart
    @JeffTygart 7 лет назад +132

    Dang no PPMD Falco

  • @ayubious
    @ayubious 7 лет назад +4

    cool analysis, definitely put into perspective how pp's style is so unique+effective despite technical flubs

  • @CloneHat
    @CloneHat 7 лет назад +32

    Amazing video, I feel like I'm watching Chess Network

  • @hamzasehavdic
    @hamzasehavdic 7 лет назад +39

    Thanks for this quality content

  • @eldiabloenriquez3186
    @eldiabloenriquez3186 7 лет назад +17

    Falco. Marth. Peach. Fox.
    Long ago, the five gods lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Armada attacked.
    Only PPMD, master of destroying floaties, could stop him. But when Melee needed him most, he vanished.
    Two years passed and competitive discovered a new protagonist, a Sheik main named Plup. And although his gimp skills are great, he still has a lot to learn before he's ready to take a set.
    But I believe Plup can stop the 3VO.

    • @moki4895
      @moki4895 4 года назад

      You only named 4 in the beginning

  • @iTzAiRos13
    @iTzAiRos13 7 лет назад

    I like your analysis Leff. I can definitely see your humbled by Kevin's playstyle because he plays so smart & unique, almost passive aggressive like you said. And i love you show respect as well. Keep up the good work. Definitely cant wait to see future sets between you and PPMD.

  • @zacharycieszinski5465
    @zacharycieszinski5465 7 лет назад +6

    Thanks leffen for uploadingSome really good stuff

  • @brian2189114
    @brian2189114 7 лет назад +52

    yes. plz do this for every top player including yourself lol.

    • @ABadGamble
      @ABadGamble 7 лет назад +11

      brian2189114 I would actually rather Armada analyze Leffen.

    • @SpankinDaBagel
      @SpankinDaBagel 7 лет назад +4

      Loudwire Yeah analysing yourself can be very biased.

    • @yoyomizuro6664
      @yoyomizuro6664 7 лет назад

      Yet every time Mang0 does it, his sub count goes up like a billion. LOL

  • @GlennHope
    @GlennHope 6 лет назад

    Wonderful analysis, I would love to see more of these!

  • @jpw8767
    @jpw8767 7 лет назад

    Thanks for these videos Leffen! Please keep them coming!

  • @outseteddy6306
    @outseteddy6306 7 лет назад +13

    I got into watching the competitive scene of Melee/ Sm4sh in mid 2015 and I've seen a ton of vids on Mang0, Hbox, M2k, Armada & Leffen but I'm still trying to see what PPMD's all about and I hope he comes back to playing

    • @KingHalbatorix
      @KingHalbatorix 7 лет назад +3

      just watch footage from apex 2014 and 2015

    • @abcdefzhij
      @abcdefzhij 7 лет назад +2

      Make sure you check out SKTAR 3 and Apex 2014 as well, though. He did a lot better at those 2 tournaments than he did at apex 2015 (mango said this once and I agree)

    • @wunnaaaaa
      @wunnaaaaa 7 лет назад

      if you want to get a real look at PPMD, stay away from everything in 2016 and just look at videos from Apex 2015 and prior

    • @outseteddy6306
      @outseteddy6306 7 лет назад

      Thanks for all the video suggestions guys! I seen 'em in a few videos from like GRsmash etc. but no lengthy matches to really see what sets his style apart.

    • @hashiramasenju3246
      @hashiramasenju3246 7 лет назад +3

      Dicks out for PP

  • @TheAngussawyer
    @TheAngussawyer 7 лет назад

    Great content man. Refreshing once again to see such honesty as well as respect.

  • @Davimikyl
    @Davimikyl 7 лет назад +2

    Wow that dream platform tech chase strat is amazing.

  • @duckyt9691
    @duckyt9691 7 лет назад +1

    Nice song at the end. Marshmello - Alone, for those wondering

  • @kirby_420inspired7
    @kirby_420inspired7 7 лет назад +1

    15:40
    'he's just suffocating plup'
    i like that you pointed it out.. sometimes getting 'mind gamed' or read like that can be pretty devastating... i feel like plup prolly improved lots off this set alone vs pp.

  • @TheBlueEspeon
    @TheBlueEspeon 7 лет назад

    This kind of insight's very interesting, it shows how much there really is to it to this game.

  • @NickyCrispy
    @NickyCrispy 7 лет назад

    Really great analysis of what makes pp so good. Also this is moreso an editing critique rather than the actual video, but the outro music on the endslate is hella loud compared to the audio in the rest of the video. Might wanna turn it down a little bit in the future.

  • @chairwood
    @chairwood 7 лет назад +7

    pls i need ppmd to come back :'( i miss him

  • @madison_hailstorm
    @madison_hailstorm 7 лет назад +39

    Leffen used to annoy me but now I really enjoy the way he talks and his attitude. I would lovingly call it Kanye-like.

    • @felixhuppert2368
      @felixhuppert2368 7 лет назад +2

      He is the yeezy of smash

    • @kkokay4
      @kkokay4 7 лет назад

      As far as confidence his is similar to kanye, but what he says makes far more sense. Leffen just speaks the truth, kanye likes to be sensational for the sake of being sensational.

    • @madison_hailstorm
      @madison_hailstorm 7 лет назад

      I mostly just mean from a confidence standpoint, and for the fact that they both do what they do and say what they say for the betterment of their respective genres of entertainment

    • @finnmarr-heenan2397
      @finnmarr-heenan2397 7 лет назад +1

      +Octopus Rocket looool Kanye would start crying and interrupt someone else's show,if he knew you said he was only improving his genre
      He is Shakespeare, Kubrick and muddy waters
      Kanye is art, didn't you buy his yeezy's
      Kanye will save pm and show everyone that brawl is the truest smash

    • @argerethargereth7155
      @argerethargereth7155 7 лет назад

      no.

  • @TheFriso1234
    @TheFriso1234 7 лет назад

    I used to strongly dislike Leffen. But man the more I get to know about him the more I love him. You are pretty awesome dude! Keep up the great work

  • @PadawanChivalry
    @PadawanChivalry 7 лет назад

    I thought some sort of ASMR video had queued up on autoplay. I go to the tab and it's fucking Leffen. my brain.

  • @freshwaffle
    @freshwaffle 7 лет назад

    great vid. hoping for more of this stuff

  • @Nognamogo
    @Nognamogo 7 лет назад +3

    18:11 No way, Leffen likes Swoozie's videos too.

  • @israboiluvsmario
    @israboiluvsmario 7 лет назад +1

    PP was this good without having the best ability to shield drop and sdi like leffen mentioned, if PP implements those elements I cant imagine how much better he will get. PP with marth pivots can also be very deadly.

  • @Dunco64
    @Dunco64 7 лет назад

    PPMD in 2017 is what Melee needs. That would be so fucking hype if he started placing in tournaments again.

  • @RemiGemini
    @RemiGemini 7 лет назад +14

    You should do more of these but definitely edit the videos a bit and cut all the empty space

  • @battelman97
    @battelman97 7 лет назад +16

    asmr af

  • @sevi7468
    @sevi7468 7 лет назад +1

    Amazing video! Would love to see your thoughts on other players too!

  • @jacobthebatchbandit3092
    @jacobthebatchbandit3092 5 лет назад +1

    PP only took 1 jab during the interaction at 29:46 🐐

  • @spaghettiking7312
    @spaghettiking7312 4 года назад

    PPMD is "Don't get hit" come alive before our eyes.

  • @Jabadamazo
    @Jabadamazo 7 лет назад +2

    I'm pretty sure Toph said "A really strong Ken combo".

  • @jaytay7265
    @jaytay7265 5 лет назад

    Damn leffen giving mad respect too pp! Same though he's one of my favorite to watch too. My favs are mango ppmd and leffen

  • @TheBoomersooner3
    @TheBoomersooner3 7 лет назад +1

    I feel like the difference between ppmd and the other gods is that the other gods visibly overwhelm and outplay everyone. ppmd just beats you. like when you watch the other gods you can tell it's them. for ppmd it's like you're watching a normal player, but everytime he plays someone he knows how to beat them. you can see his speed techs and stuff, but it just feels different when watching ppmd. you watch it and he just always wins.

    • @SkysBringer
      @SkysBringer 7 лет назад

      collin beer I'd be tempted to say the opposite. PPMD at his best completely outplays you in neutral - it doesn't matter how good your punish game is if his neutral is so perfect that you're never in a position to land a hit. The other gods (+ Leffen) with the exception of maybe Mango are much more punish heavy and capitalize to the fullest off every mistake. PPMD is less flashy combos and more movement and prediction. It's a really unique playstyle, especially at this level of play.

  • @pr0gressd
    @pr0gressd 7 лет назад

    I really enjoyed this video

  • @peternguyen5314
    @peternguyen5314 7 лет назад +3

    Please analyze yourself vs M2K, it'll be so interesting.

  • @PandaTaylorLOL
    @PandaTaylorLOL 7 лет назад

    good shit leffen !

  • @StructuredBASIC
    @StructuredBASIC 7 лет назад

    I think the neutral air forward smash on the left platform vs Armada might've been an attempt at ledge cancel?

  • @krokoza8807
    @krokoza8807 7 лет назад

    thanks

  • @primal44
    @primal44 7 лет назад +2

    Leffen ASMR

  • @MichaelChristopher9
    @MichaelChristopher9 7 лет назад +4

    PPMD Kreygasm

  • @rk9515
    @rk9515 7 лет назад +5

    I'd call ppmd a modern day Ken.

    • @edgar8316
      @edgar8316 7 лет назад +5

      Rk9 Everyone is a modern day Ken

    • @Sly_Maverick_31
      @Sly_Maverick_31 7 лет назад +2

      EdgarL26
      Everyone that mains Marth is a modern day Ken.

    • @jackfox9893
      @jackfox9893 6 лет назад +1

      I'd call PPMD daddy

  • @UltraSalamenece
    @UltraSalamenece 7 лет назад

    Can you make another one of these but with other players such as yourself?

  • @skeezymike2305
    @skeezymike2305 7 лет назад

    oh god i hug ppmd

  • @farleydbear
    @farleydbear 7 лет назад

    15:21 pp should have ended this combo with reverse up-b. i swear, more than 50% of marths combos can end with up-b but no one does it

  • @qzx55
    @qzx55 7 лет назад +2

    Kreygasm PPMD Kreygasm

  • @Maho_Stitch
    @Maho_Stitch 7 лет назад +3

    What is anime?

  • @calebrobinson6406
    @calebrobinson6406 7 лет назад

    Do you think ppmd did so well maybe because he had been out of the scene? The other top players couldn't prepare as well as he could for them

  • @baileyrulz1
    @baileyrulz1 7 лет назад

    i don't tune in to leffens streams, is he usually this quiet? i've never heard him be this quiet tbh

  • @WaldoFindsYo
    @WaldoFindsYo 7 лет назад

    I was looking at frame data and saw that Mewtwo's Nair autocancels earliest on frame 5 and comes out as early as frame 5. Does that mean he can auto cancel his Nair with a hit box active?

    • @voltekka47
      @voltekka47 7 лет назад

      If it is, then the hitbox is probably only active for 1 frame when you autocancel is.

    • @voltekka47
      @voltekka47 7 лет назад

      +ChillTerumi *it

    • @WaldoFindsYo
      @WaldoFindsYo 7 лет назад

      SaviorSelf still, that's dope af

    • @Jas-ms4tr
      @Jas-ms4tr 7 лет назад +1

      Waldo stfu nerd

    • @WaldoFindsYo
      @WaldoFindsYo 7 лет назад +1

      Jas Sandoval lol

  • @dankmemesandmusic
    @dankmemesandmusic 7 лет назад

    P P M D Kreygasm

  • @12345sebster
    @12345sebster 7 лет назад

    Does anyone know how to land on the platforms so quickly - like without having much time actually being in the air when jumping. PPMD just lands on them so fast... I've been trying to find out for a while now. Like at 14:51

    • @ricktophermenendez5983
      @ricktophermenendez5983 7 лет назад +1

      he wavedashes into the platform is what i think you're referring to

    • @cbayley108
      @cbayley108 7 лет назад +1

      12345sebster waveland

    • @12345sebster
      @12345sebster 7 лет назад

      Thank you! Man, that sounds so intuitive... I'm dumb X D

    • @12345sebster
      @12345sebster 7 лет назад

      Oh yeah! Saw that with ppu. Thanks though! : D I don't practice it. I do it accidently ... Meh X D

  • @laufcra
    @laufcra 7 лет назад

    come back pp

  • @VisualTraining
    @VisualTraining 7 лет назад +2

    notification gang

  • @jrave5353
    @jrave5353 7 лет назад

    Kreygasm

  • @Gigga9
    @Gigga9 7 лет назад

    outro song?

  • @lambmaster27
    @lambmaster27 7 лет назад

    What's a shallow Marth down tilt?

    • @Virchuoso0
      @Virchuoso0 7 лет назад +2

      A normal dtilt is aimed where the opponent is. A deep dtilt is aimed past the opponent, predicting they will dash away. A shallow dtilt aims ahead of the opponent, predicting they will dash at you.

    • @lambmaster27
      @lambmaster27 7 лет назад

      Ah okay I was thinking there were different types of down tilts that I never heard about if i pressed (A) more lightly lmao thank you

  • @seanhembree6154
    @seanhembree6154 7 лет назад

    Is it weird to see your own face all over RUclips?

  • @bobgarrett3154
    @bobgarrett3154 7 лет назад +2

    Insightful video, the only thing is that you talk so quietly. Speak up my man people want to hear what you have to say

  • @TomoYoMomo15
    @TomoYoMomo15 7 лет назад +2

    you gotta make these shorter man

    • @etin97
      @etin97 7 лет назад +35

      plz dont

    • @confucheese
      @confucheese 7 лет назад +11

      Nah, I like having these long videos to listen to while doing other things. Much prefer the longer vids.

  • @EmeraldaKasim
    @EmeraldaKasim 3 года назад

    Asmr

  • @jeroldreputana3136
    @jeroldreputana3136 7 лет назад

    Will ppmd go to Genesis 4?

    • @EC_Tavo
      @EC_Tavo 7 лет назад +1

      R3loD _NiNjAx as a spectator from what I've heard

    • @matthewslavin5071
      @matthewslavin5071 7 лет назад +1

      R3loD _NiNjAx pp said during his interview with tafo that he's still undecided on whether or not he'll play or not. His condition is improving, but I kinda doubt that he will be able to play, especially on a decent level.

    • @jeroldreputana3136
      @jeroldreputana3136 7 лет назад

      Matthew Slavin Dang it! Rip man!
      .(ง •̀ω•́)ง

    • @thelaw3536
      @thelaw3536 7 лет назад

      Matthew Slavin
      He said he is definitely coming back, however when is unknown. He will probably make to 20, however don't expect much from him. He's been out too long

    • @matthewslavin5071
      @matthewslavin5071 7 лет назад

      The Law i know he's coming back, it's a matter of when. I am doubtful he'll play at genesis, but I think he will be back to top level in due time.

  • @plin5829
    @plin5829 7 лет назад

    5:00

  • @iRedditShorts
    @iRedditShorts 7 лет назад +1

    Leffen's voice almost gave me cancer.

  • @VoidTime
    @VoidTime 7 лет назад +1

    7th xd

  • @kirby_420inspired7
    @kirby_420inspired7 7 лет назад

    even though i love toph.. next time you could mute th commentary

  • @DiddyKingLP
    @DiddyKingLP 7 лет назад

    nothing.

  • @leukashot123
    @leukashot123 7 лет назад

    He is unique because he is never coming back.....