DON’T ruin your FACIAL FAT: BIG RISKS of lash serums (and what to choose INSTEAD)
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Ever since its launch the prescription lash serum latisse has promised longer, thicker, darker lashes. It also carried plenty of potential side effects due to its active ingredient, a prostaglandin….dangers like: hyperpigmentation, redness, irritation and something called “peri orbital fat loss” Aka hallow, sunken eyes. Sounds so nice, right?
THEN on to the scene came all of the OTC versions of latisse. The versions most like latisse also have prostaglandin analogues (synthetic prostaglandins) and
While they also promised longer, thicker, darker lashes some of them neglected to warn us about the awful truth- using them could annihilate the fat all around our eyes leaving us with hollowness that is terribly hard (if not impossible) to correct.
They DO warn that … "Some users have reported eye redness and itchiness, dry eyes, watering of the eyes, sensitivity, styes, inflammation of eyelid and eye, temporary darkening of skin around the eye area, lash loss and/or visible enhancement of hair around or outside the eye area." (Rodan and fields)...What about fat loss???
Some of them dismiss the side effects with snarky language (pulled right from Grande Lash website)… “You can't believe everything you see or hear on social media.
There are no studies that substantiate peri orbital fat loss as a potential effect of GrandeLASH-MD. Online claims of this aren't unsupported by any real scientific evidence.”
Sadly, that’s not true. Prostaglandin analogues carry the same potential risks as prescription prostaglandins. As a matter of fact the FDA issued a warning to OTC lash serum makers back in 2011 about the potential dangers of including prostaglandin analogues in their formulas due to the known FDA-studied side effects. Additionally Rodan and Fields settled a 38,000,000 lawsuit in 2022...More on that in another video.
Here are some of the ingredients to avoid:
Isopropyl cloprostenate (rodan and Fields, Grande Lash MD)
Isopropyl phenyl hydroxypentane
Dihydroxy cyclopentyl heptane
Dechloro dihydroxy difluoro ethylcloprostenolamide
Bitmaprost (latisse)
Here are my NON-PROSTAGLANDIN lash serum recommendations:
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10:13 The Ordinary lash serum
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The study on growth factors in lash serum is here:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
The Prostaglandin associated periorbitopathy in patients using bimatoprost, latanoprost and travoprost (drops) study is here:
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/a...
Another study here:
Do Prostaglandin Analogue Lash Lengtheners Cause Eyelid Fat and Volume Loss?
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35700...
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Dr. Rajani has been speaking about the fat pad loss around the eyes from using lash serums for quite a while now, but until now, I haven't heard even ONE beauty influencer talk about this!
I hope that now with Penny's large following that the word will get out and other influencers will educate their followers as well.
I am definitely NOT the type of person to jump on the bandwagon of new things that come out that are made from the Pharmaceutical industry. People really have no idea just how quickly these products get greenlit to be passed by the FDA & out to market; then at that point, the people using said product ARE the long term safety study participants, whether knowingly or not. Sadly, "Science is for sale".
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YES IT IS!! Big time and things are covered up and manipulated and get the label “science” all the time.
Oh, great! After losing 63 pounds.. first place was my face, I DO NOT need to lose anymore fat on my face. Great video!!!! You are gorgeous AND smart🩷🩷🩷
WOW. I have been using GrandeLash for YEARS and latisse on and off. I have terrible fat loss under my eyes that I have been trying to combat for a few years. I cannot believe I am just hearing this information now but so thankful that I you put this out! I will throw out my GrandeLash TODAY and order one of your recommendations. I really really appreciate the science you explain behind all of the information you put in your videos. You are a gem ❤
I am so glad that this video helped you, such important info that everyone needs to know!!!
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I used to use Latisse but for a short time period. Definitely had a nice growth on my lashes. Past few months my lashes were so short and I started rubbing castor oil around my eyes and the growth is amazing. My lashes are beautiful! Anyone wanting to try an alternative that won’t cause any side effects, castor oil!
Thank you! I was looking for a natural way to grow my lashes
Does the castor oil get into your eyes? How do you use it?
@@ALT-vz3jnif it does get in your eyes, your vision goes blurry for a little while. Castor oil is thick and messy and didn’t do much for my lashes compared to serums. It wasn’t worth the hassle for me
You and I are definitely on the same path lately
I just filmed a video on prostaglandin feee lash serums as well. The reviv is the one that has really worked for me.
As always, you look stunning ❤
You're always at the cutting edge of information too, Claudia & I love your channel 👍
@@dharma__3 aww, thank you ❤️
In fact there was a lawsuit against the two dermatologist that created Lashboost because of the potential side effects
Penny, thank you for this eye opening and informative video! I’m 48 and figured the sunken eyes and darkness was just due solely to age!
Much appreciation!
EXCELLENT, excellent video. Great summary of some of the available data that most people won’t bother to read. Thank you @Penn Smith 🙏🙏
Thank you! That means so much to me coming from you 😍💙💙
OMG I thought that I was looking so old with my suddenly dark circles! I started using Grande Lash a couple of months ago. Thank you for this video!!
I’ve tried revitalash and it grew my lashes like crazy. But I have equally good results just using some msm powder dissolved Into a little water; thick, curled, long lashes
Could you share why msm grows lashes, appreciated thx.
@casperinsight3524 I started using it because I saw a RUclips with a curly hair growth chanel recommend it. It's a sulphur compound that is anti inflammatory. Some studies have shown increases in hair growth and retention in mice and in humans. Not sure what the exact mechanism of action is., but something to do with the sulpher acting on keratin. You can take internally or apply externally. It's meant to be good for skin too
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I've aware of msm arthritic/pain supplements and creams for dogs/cats/ people but never heard of possible hair growth which is interesting. Glad to hear it works as its natural and more affordable than most other manufactured marketed products. I read many have had success with castor oil on eyebrows for regrowth so perhaps might work on lashes too,
Cheers
What is msm powder, please?
Can you please share more details about the msm powder and how to use it exactly? I’m in the UK and I can’t buy the Reviv lash serum here so I’m a bit stuck and the AnteAge is extremely pricey! Thanks so much for your advice and help 💕🙏
I wish i had known this a long time ago 😢 thank you Penny!
I knew about this . and I have seen many women with red and dark eye lids. but I didn't know that there were non prostaglandins lash serums options. YOu're awesome. thank you
I stopped using RapidLash because I developed meibomian gland dysfunction where the oil glands along the lash line gets clogged. I have to get IPL laser treatments every 6-10 months (after the initial 4 treatments I got each a month apart) to get the oil in the glands to melt. Then the ophthalmologist expresses the lids. Mine were so thick they would come out like butter.
One thing that helps with thick lashes and brows is Viviscal. I started taking the hair growth supplements recently and noticed my brows and lashes have gotten thicker. Since I don’t use lash serums anymore, I’m pretty sure it’s the Viviscal that’s responsible for the thick lashes and brows.
That is one of the more extreme side effects, I am so sorry to hear that this happened to you!
That's what happened to me. I got Dry Eye from using Lattisse. I have to get IPL on a regular basis now. Plus, insurance won't cover it.
@@morganjen1962 I’m sorry you have to go through this too. I don’t understand why insurance won’t cover our IPLs. It’s sooo expensive 😢😭
@@mkryu It's considered "experimental."
Penny, thank you for this video. I have wanted to use a lash serum, but just wasn't sure after hearing the problems they created. Thank you
Oh I was so holding my breath hoping you wouldn't say that the ordinary's was not a good one. It's worked very well for me. I tried vie for a week or less & my lids darkened so I said no. I'm so grateful to have you as an advocate & trustworthy source.
I appreciate you so much for being with us !
I used GrandeLash for about 2 years regularly and it worked quite well. I later noticed that I had a good amount of fat loss around my eyes and also started getting inner styes/chalazion which I'd never had before. I almost had to have surgery because they wouldn't go away, it was awful! I stopped using it but it was too late. I do what I can do help the creepy skin that's left (botox, creams, etc). I started seeing videos and studies that came out later and my suspicions were validated. Don't use them, they are not worth the negative side effects.
I only used the prostaglandin products once or twice because they irritated my eyes. Thanks for giving some other options Penn. Honestly, I’ve found that by brows and lashes have improved most with my red light therapy devices.
WOW Penny this is unreal. I had NO IDEA. I go one and off of lash serums and I have noticed my under eyes changing quite a bit lately....mind blowing!
Perfect timing for your video! I was just going to purchase the Obagi Lash Serum, but at $120 for 3ml it’s expensive. I am going to try your recommendations first.
Great information Penny! Thank you! ♥️🙏
Thanks for this information! I can keep using my Ordinary lash serum!
Honestly this channel deserves so much more subscriptions, it’s just consistently good.
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you for this info ... will be changing immediately
Thanks for sharing Penny! I was using Lashboost once a week and my upper lashes were getting red!
I will ditch it and start using one of yours.
Thanks for the deep dive! I ordered RevivLash with your code and just started using it last night so I’ll give an update in a month.
I chose RevivLash over The Ordinary because it only has to be used once daily vs twice with TO. I also saw some reviews that TO felt heavy and/or caused dry eye.
Great video Penn! Thank you as always 🙏🏻❤️
Thank you!
Thanks for the detailed explanation and the relevant studies. I like the NYK1 eyelash serum but will definitely check the other serums you've recommended
Great video!! I have been absolutely loving Scorolash, super effective for lashes and brows. Highly recommend it.
Thank you for this post. I have been using Revitalash for several years. Thankfully, I have no issues under my eyes, but I have developed discoloration on my eyelids. I bought a Mac eyelid primer and it hides this. Earlier, I did buy the Ordinary one to try when I finished the Revitalash. I’ll use it now and hope that the Revive will go on sale on Black Friday.
It’s interesting that you mention this. About 5 yrs ago I started using latisse & b/c i had hooded eyelids it was a nice side effect to have less hooded lids, but after a year, my eyes didn’t look as good anymore & looked sunken. When i stopped, it seemed to reverse itself.
Yes I had researched it and stop using it. Thanks for sharing .
Many years ago my boyfriend who had eye trouble used drops that made him grow the longest lashes ever. He looked adorable.
I have been using Obagi for over a year and my undereyes are soo dark and hollow. I just thought it was my lot in life. Thank you for this video! I am discontinuing use today.
I’m so sorry to hear this. I did see a study where the orbital fat loss reversed after about 6 months and the hyperpigmentation can be reversed too 🙏💙
Thanks for the video and posting the study links. I've seen videos from derms and at least one ophthalmologist over the past few years on side effects from lash serums. I believe Dr. Rupa Wong (ophthalmologist) has reviewed the ordinary lash serum (and maybe Dr Dray).
Penny, I had heard about these potential side effects from certain lash serums some time ago and am thankful for your educational video!! I've used different lash serums for over 20 years, starting with Latisse when it first came out then tried Revitalash and Obagi, which became my favorite. My undereyes have changed but thought it was just age as I'm almost 59. For good measure I'm switching to Reviv!Serums! Love the depths you go to give us thorough education! xo
Hi Penn, thanks so much for this information and listing the the ingredients to avoid. I was using neuLASH several months ago and it did work but I stopped using it (before I even finished it) because I was getting red lines on my eyelids, above my eyelashes. I just looked and it does contain Isopropyl Cloprostenate, which may have been the reason. I will definitely be trying the Revivlash you recommended…. Thank you so so much again, as always! 😘
I used the revitalash for about 6 months. Lashes grew like crazy but yes, so did the side effects: discoloration. Heard it wasn't good for your eyes (Dr. Rajani) so immediately stopped using. Been using the Ordinary lash/brow serum as soon as it came out. It's helped, lashes are better, but lashes and brows arent as good as they were with Revitalash (59 years old). Was gladly willing to make the sacrifice..health before beauty. Going to try Anteage first. When it runs out, will try Reviv (I've been using their growth factor serum for possibly 2 years now). Learned about it from you of course. You always have the best information!!!
I SWITCHED FROM LATISSE TO REVIVLASH. Thanks Penn! I really appreciate all the time & effort you’ve given to teach us about taking good care of our skin! I have learned so much from u that I get compliments DAILY ON MY SKIN! It’s all from everything I’ve learned from u! You’ve taken my skin to the next level! MUCH APPRECIATION❤🙏🏻
Oh my gosh Tammy! Thank you for this!! 🥹🥹🥹🥹
Ok I just purchased the revivserums, thank you for the discount code 🦋
I hope you love it!
I used latisse & Jan Marini like 15+years ago. I think it took a while for the effects to show, but 3 years ago BAM!! My eyes had undereye pigmentation AND hollows!! I looked horrendous. I believe it was those serums plus age. I got a round of fillers & had a compounded fade cream to address the hyperpigmentation and I’m getting back to normal. I’m staying away from all lash serums & sticking with $5 essence mascara👍🏿👍🏿
Thank you for explaining the ingredients and benefits (as well as problems) with different lash serums. I´ve used Sweed lash serum for the last (2?) months and it´s really changed my lashes a lot, they almost look fake, as they are visibly longer, curlier and thicker (unfortunately not in the outer corners though!). It´s a Swedish brand and the serum is without prostaglandines of any kind. Yet I do have some itchiness a few times a day, not sure it´s from the serum or from having allergies in my eyes (which I always have when being in the city). Because of the quite extreme (I´ve tried many other serums without any results, and had to throw away a few as they irritated my eyes) effectiveness of this serum I can´t help worrying about possible side effects and would love hearing from other users´ experiences with it.
Thank you so much for all of this information and providing alternatives as well! I’ll definitely check these out 💞😭🫶🏼
I saw results with Revive and need to reorder. The Ordinary serum didn't give me results, sadly. Love your shirt, Penny! Have a great Sunday,
Great topic, there are many dangers to using prostaglandin analog serums, and the periorbital fat loss is irreversible! Would also recommend twenty/twenty beauty which is a physician developed company (by a board certified ophthalmologist) who created an eyelash serum safe for the eyes and conditions the lashes with ingredients castor oil, coconut oil and argan oil (that's it), to prevent lash brittleness and breakage. It's a safe natural formula that I especially would recommend to people with sensitive skin/eyes and even teen girls.
Thanks so much for this information. I will switch.😊
Thank you Penny for another great video. Ive been using the Ordinary lash and brow serum on my brows and have seen great results. I had several patches where hair just wouldnt grow and those have filled in. They look darker too but not sure if thats because they're getting thicker. Thanks again for all you do!!
Thanks for sharing!!
Hi Penn, I've used Grandelash on and off and have noticed that my eyelids near the lash line have turned red. Since discontinuing use, the red is gone. Great video, thank you.
Ha! That’s funny. I ordered this one, confusing it with the Revitalash, which I only realized quite a while after. Guess now I should be happy about my mistake then! And, yes, I really like it! And by the way, works for eyebrows also!
I cannot thank you enough for this video. I used grande lash for years and it sensitized my eyes and it discolored my skin around my eyes. I switched to RevitaLash and more recently I am starting to see the same F’ing issue!!! Thank you so much for this. Buying Reviv RIGHT now. ❤
I am now putting all of this together! I have used Grande for several years. My eyes have become red, itchy, and so irritable!!!! I bought the Reviv as well! I guess I need to chuck my unopened bottle of Grande out! UGH! :)
It is crazy how many of these brands are not good! I hope you love the Reviv 😊
Agree. Latisse use was one of the reasons I got Dry Eye. Way too much risk to use lash serums with prostaglandins.
Just received my RevivLash in the mail! I’ve been using Revita Lash for over a year now and other prior serums like Babe Lash that contain prostaglandins. My eyelids started to form a dark pinkish lash line which I was not happy about. I hope it’s reversible now that I will stop using this and begin using Reviv! Can’t wait to see my results with Reviv Lash!
I use DS laboratories lash serum. Does not include any of the ingredients she says to avoid and in fact includes the ingredients she recommends. I have been using it for years and I have ocular rosacea and have had no irritation.
Oh yay!!! I’ll look this one up! Thank you 😊😊💙
Spectacular, Penn! I so appreciate your research and recommendations. I definitely saw that my eyes changed when I was on a prostaglandin based last serum for a couple years. I looked back at those pictures and I actually look different. I find that now some of that has gotten better. It didn’t seem to be permanent for me but maybe I caught it in time.?
Thank you so much for this Penn. I now have a peri-orbital fat loss around my eyes. What do I do? Is thé damage irréparable? Also, can you make a video on Minoxidil and how ut causes premature aging?
Minoxidil causes aging?
Does it make your lashes longer or thicker? I find most serums do one or the other. Would love to know❤
I was using the Lily Lash serum which made my lashes mega long however it absolutely darkened my lids. I’m now using the Ordinary one and not as good results but I’m getting some and no darkening so good enough for me. Also way more affordable! Lily was 47$ and ordinary was 15$ I believe. Lily did have way more in it though. I believe it was a 90 day supply.
Oh my goodness... I've been using Rodan+Fields Lash Boost for 5+ years and had no idea there was a risk! Okay, ordering one of your recommended lash serums immediately!!!
I love your channel because you care about the exact same things that I do! 😉🩵🙌🏼
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Thank you! I’m so glad!
I feel like I just dodged a bullet, so thank you for this. I used maybe 1-2 tubes of Latisse back in the day when I believe it was the only one out there. I am lucky enough to have been born w/long full eyelashes & pretty dark thick eyebrows thanks in large part to my dad’s genes. But my cosmetic derm whom I saw for facials, Botox & peels thought it’d be fun for me to see how long my lashes would get. I was warned about the potential for the darkening of my eyelids but was told it usually dissipated if it happened at all. I was in my 20s & tried it. But like I said, only for a very short time & I very much doubt I was consistent in daily use. I stopped because my lashes just got too long & were actually bending down against my eyeglass lenses & that drove me nuts. I have darkish upper eyelids to the point where my female friends often compliment my “eye shadow” when I’ve nothing on. To be honest, I am not sure now if it’s natural or due to the short amount of time I used Latisse or if it’s a combination of both. I haven’t noticed any fat loss around my eyes, thank goodness. In any case, I am so grateful for this video because I just bought some Revitalash in the Nordstrom’s sale. I was noticing a thin patch in my eyebrow & thought I might like to take another go at using a lash & brow serum to: 1) fill in my eyebrow & 2) see how long my lashes would get this time! I hadn’t opened the package yet as my eyebrow seems to have filled itself in, (maybe due to the supplements I’ve been using to stop my hair loss & rejuvenate my hairline), & I’ve been debating about whether or not to return it or keep it to use for when my honey returns from a long work assignment out of town. Now I’m absolutely going to be returning it. THANK YOU!
Great and pertinent topic. Porstoglandins in eye lash/eye brow serum needs to be illegal and not allowed by the FDA.
I have used the Reviv lash and brow serum for the past year really happy with my results.
I have been using the Reviv serum since the beginning of April and saw a significant amount of thickness and length increase by August . I had lash extensions prior and when I removed them during lockdown when salons weren’t open, I was left with barely any lashes . I have tried many serums with prostaglandins and was left with red irritated eyes . I was going to give up but wanted to try a prostaglandin free one and I know you trust this brand . I am so happy with the results and someone for the first time in my life complimented me on my natural lashes and how long they were the other day! Thank you Penn for the recommendation 😊
Thank you for sharing your results!
Amazing info! Thank You
I had a bad experience with The Ordinary lash serum. I lost more lashes than ever, and had gaps in my lashline after using it. My eyelashes went back to normal after discontinuing it. Never again.
I’m so glad I found your video. I have been using latisse for 3 years. I had started to notice a hollowness under my eyes and chalked it up to aging. I definitely have hyperpigmentation too which I knew was a common side effect. I’m hoping that discontinuing will help get back to normal );
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Penn. Speaking of fat loss, can you please do a video on volufiline? I saw you briefly mentioned it in a video about a year ago, but I just heard about it now. If you can do a comparison video with Adipeau, that would be so so helpful. Thanks so much for all you do! 🙏🥰
yes, I just bought a bottle and I am afraid to use it. LOL Please do a video Thank you
Same here. Waiting for a video😊
@@flowergirl8887did u ever use it I see ppl who say they had fat loss with it in those places when they lost weight or just in general or others saying permanent swelling
My eyes inherently are hollowed and I don’t need any help with worsening it:) I heard about this side effect of prostaglandins several years ago and struggled to find a good replacement for the Rodan and Fields. About 8 months ago I started using the Reviv and I love it!! Thank you for all you do I appreciate all your content keep all the good stuff coming!! Would love to hear more about ingredients like methylene blue
Yep, this is what did it to my eyes….so hallow
I tried Rodan & Fields lash serum & developed hyperpigmentation, mostly on my upper eyelids, rather quickly. It was a reddish brown color. Made me look like I never slept or had a hangover 24/7! It did go away after I stopped using it. I'd rather have tiny eyelashes than look like that. Now, I use The Ordinary & have no side effects. My lashes did get a tiny bit longer. Mostly I can tell when I put mascara on. I'm curious to try the Revivlash next. Thanks for the info based on science Penn!
About 6 years ago I used Latisse for a while- my eyes were a LOT more sunken in during that time-I stopped using it and only use one with growth factors, now,
and I do believe a lot of that hollowness has dissipated and looks much better. Luckily, I never got discoloration/pigmentation.
I like my lashes to be thicker too- I don’t notice mine as thick as they used to be either. I’m going to pick up the Reviv 4 sure.
I have pretty pronounced eye bags so thank you for this video!! My goto lash serum is actually by Neutrogena. I'm not normally a fan, however this serum works incredibly well for me! My lashes are so thick and long! They actually touch the lenses of my glasses when i wear them. Just did a comparison of the inci list and im not seeing any of these ingredients in it! ❤
I use the ordinary one, it’s so good. Best one I’ve tried
I was blessed with long lashes that are curved. People used to ask if I had false lashes, especially when I wore eyeliner, so stopped using eyeliner until my 40s when my eyes started to disappear. As I have aged, the lashes are less full, but still pretty long. My husband has glaucoma and his eye drops have in fact caused his lashes to be quite lush. I had heard to steer clear of prostaglandin due to change in eye color. I have multi-color irises anyway so that wasn’t a real concern. If I had crystal blue eyes like yours, I would not risk it. At first I thought fat loss could be good: “maybe it will reduce my hooded and puffy eyes” - lol. But knew better. I am currently on my 2nd tube of The Ordinary. I am not sure I see much difference. Maybe a little. I might try the Reviv to compare. Like you, I am hoping for fuller lashes, not longer.
I used Latisse, for a few months this past spring and summer. I used it on my lashes and eyebrows. My brows got thicker and darker. My lashes grew and got darker, nothing too crazy. I stopped because my eyes got very itchy and irritated. I've decided that I will work with what I have at this point in my life :) Stay healthy ladies
Thanks so much, Penny. I used the Revitalash for so long and holy moly did it WORK but yup... I developed a yellow-ish hyperpigmentation around my eyes and always woke up with them irritated. I then tried the Anteage and it did nothing - a full tube (maybe 2?) and nothing...so I then moved to the Ordinary and I think I'm on my 4th tube? It might help a little bit? Nothing like Revitalash, but no irritation either... and it's not too expensive, so I've continued to use it. I am going to try the Reviv.... I really miss my eyelashes! I even bought the little KISS lashes that need no glue to compensate for the loss of lashes, but I need no fuss...so I will give this a shot. xoxoxox
Great information!! Could you please also analyze the E.L.F. Lash and brow serum and let us know what you think on that one. ❤ Thanks! ❤
I've been suing Nulastin thinking it only had peptides as the active ingredients but in fact it does contain prostaglandins! Disappointed but I will try your recommendations. Thank you!
I have been using Dermawerks after years of using products like rodan and fields, Latisse and Revitalash. I found all the prostaglandin products to work initially and then kind of stop working- all eventually irritated my eyes especially since I am a side and stomach sleeper. My eyelids got very red and it looked like I was wearing red eyeliner on my top lid. I noticed hallowing beneath the eye of the side I usually sleep on after several years. The good news is since I stopped using prostaglandin products the hallow under the effected eye seems to have lessened so I don’t think my hallowing is necessarily permanent. I’m definitely trying Reviv because I don’t think Dermawerks has any growth factors. Thanks Penny!
I have been using the Ordinary serum and love it! It has definitely helped my sparse eyebrows. I’m on my second tube.
Awesome!!
Love all you do for us…
What do you think about using Castor Oil for your lashes? I apparently heard it from somewhere..
Enjoy your journey in life and keep spreading your sunshine..🌞
I'm so glad I got Revitalash but was too lazy to use it, and since I also have very sensitive eyes I was a bit cautious... It was also quite expensive, so I think I will try Reviv next.
I used one here in the Uk and it took 3 months for me to notice significantly sunken eyes and also discolouration - Im only 36 / wasnt stressed and no chsnge in my lifestyle so I knew something was off. I ditched my lash serum immediately after research and wont ever go back xx
I have found something simple. Castor oil at night. It is amazing. Try it ladies on both eyebrows and eyelashes
Thank you for this.
You looking gorgeous ❤
Thank you 🥰
Not going to lie.. MIND BLOWN!! I have all of these symptoms and had no clue. I've been using lash serums for years!
Same!!!
Me too!! So frustrating. I have to believe this is reversible!! Our thoughts are very powerful -so I’m stopping and going to expect things to heal-thank goodness the knowledge i out now-bet they knew it far before it got out to people
Good morning Penn. Great information as usual. I've been using Grande Lash & Brow for almost 4 yeas without any problems. But with that being said I don't want any problems occurring in the future. I will use up what I have, then start using one of the products you mentioned. I'll be 70 next month, so I definitely don't want to use anything that causes fat loss. I'll buy two, one for my brows, and one for my lashes, to avoid cross contamination. Thank you, beautiful!!! Blessing..MaryEllen
Hello MaryEllen! It always makes me smile to see you!
I’m so glad you’ve had no issues.
That’s the thing, right? Lots of people will use these with no issues.
People just need to have all the info so they can make an informed decision 💙💙
I sure hope you are going well my friend!
Hello my friend! I’m with you MaryEllen, I knew I’d find you here too!
Hello Maureen. Yes, I love to see our beautiful Penn, and hear what she has to say!! She's brains, and beauty!!@@maureenhansen8321
I have also been using Grande Lash for a few years thankfully without any problems, but I will switch to Revive thanks for the advise ❤
Penn always provides the best information!! @@mariaantonietamora5760
I have been using Latisse for years. I love it. No side effects for me as mentioned .
That’s wonderful!
Like all “risks” there are people who will not experience any of the side effects and some who do. I’m so glad you are one who doesn’t!! 💙💙
Penny I had not heard anything negative about the lash serums however I used Grande Lash a few years ago and it was working very well, no side effects until I started with my 4th tube. It began irritating my eyes, they felt very itchy and my eye lids would get rid. Needless to say, I stopped using it, sadly because my lashes had grown. I didn't try anything else and just this year bought the Revitalash pack from the Nordstrom Anniversary sale, but I have not opened it, therefore I will return it and order the Ordinary.EDIT, just ordered the Ordinary thru your link.
I use castor oil with lavender, rosemary and cedarwood. Buy an empty mascara tube and make your own. It really works!
Hi Penny, I really appreciate this video. I’ve been using NeuLash for over a year. Is it one of the bad ones? I have noticed my lashes are harder to tame a little. I value your opinion and your expert advice. Thank you, Trisha
Thanks Penny, very valuable info . Excellent video ! May I ask for your review of Dermelect lash XL lash volumiser please ? I have enjoyed your recommendation of their other products ❤❤thank u
Here’s their ingredient deck:
Full Ingredients: Water (Aqua), Glycerin, Butylene Glycol, Glycereth-26, Acetyl Tetrapeptide-3, Trifolium Pratense (Clover) Flower Extract, *Myristoyl Pentapeptide-17* Biotinoyl Tripeptide-1, Panthenol, Dextran, 1,2-Hexanediol, Caprylyl Glycol, PVP, Xanthan Gum, Polysorbate 20, Benzoic Acid, Ethylhexylglycerin, Sodium Benzoate, Phenoxyethanol, Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891).
No prostaglandins 😊
And it does have peptides including Myristoyl Pentapeptide-17 which is great for lashes.
I haven’t tried it though 💙
There is a wonderful cream called adipeau that may be able to help restore the loss of fat in the eye area. I have used this cream and it does work!❤ it does need to go through the hair follicles, so I'm not sure how it would work on the orbital of the eye, but it's definitely worth trying
I’m so glad I never used any of these products. Always trust your gut. I don’t put anything around my eyes.
I use Nulastin which only contains collagen, Keratin and HA. Ive been pleased.
I used it too-i reached out to company -THEY DO use a prostaglandin so beware. I will not use anymore- i have the hollowing and trust me u don’t want to get that -its horrible!!
Very informative! What are your thoughts on Grandebrow?
Did you look at the one by Nulastin? I also want to thank you for your tip on using a vet cotton swab to apply minoxidil! I finally gave in and started using this but it was so drippy with the dropper. The cotton swab is so much better!
I’m curious if you know about Lash Therapy from Hello Skincare?? Definitely going to look into these others!thanks for the info.
So glad to get the recommendation of the RevivSerum ... placed my order earlier in the week. I have always had very long lashes but they were never thick ... I am so hoping to thicken them up and as I've gotten older, they seem to get straighter and straighter ... hopefully the serum will add some curl too. Anxiously awaiting its arrival. I do have The Ordinary Lash & Brow serum and have been using it on my brows, but haven't seen any improvement on them.
My best result from the Reviv is thicker lashes so it should work wonderfully for you!
Where in the UK can I buy the Reviv lash serum? If I can’t buy it here and order it from the US, will I have to pay import/duty tax upon receipt? Thanks 💕
I heard about the side effects a few months back when I came across a video from Twenty Twenty Beauty. A dermatologist created a lash serum with caster oil that helped with lash growth and condition. I had never had real success with lash serums and have been diagnosed with dry eye. I am using the Twenty Twenty lash serum and have noticed slight lengthening, but definite filling in of sparse areas and better condition of my lashes. I checked the ingredients and there are no growth factors or peptides in it, just oils. I am going to try the Reviv!Serums now and see if I can get some length! I do have one drawback, my lashes curl toward the center of my face when they do grow :/
Thank you .... interesting you mention growth factors! Question... Would you please do a video on growth factors for skin care? What serum /moisturizer do you use. or you suggest?
I have 55yo short, straight Asian lashes. I also have undereye darkness and the early signs of hollow troughs due to age. I have always been frustrated with dealing with curling my lashes everyday and searching for the HG mascara that holds a curl. I've always envied the results from women who have used lash serums but always held off due to the risks. I'm not willing to chance it.
With all the valuable research you do for us, it would be fantastic if you created a beauty line for us!!!
Have you tried using a heated lash curler? I just got one and it holds a curl much longer than the traditional curler.
Hi Penny, such a thorough and informative video, thank you! I know you said the side-effects such as periorbital fat loss are irreversible but is there anything that can be done to improve darkening or discolouration and yes, hollowing too? Are you aware of any non-surgical treatments or products? Perhaps you could do a follow-up video about this - how can former lash serum users who've experienced negative side effects improve or mitigate some of the side effects.
I've been a long-time user of lash serums and although I would quickly stop using the ones that were obviously not doing my eyelids any good e.g. causing redness along the lashline (hello, Lilash!), I may have inadvertently caused other harm with products that seemed fine. I've got best results in terms of lash length with Revitalash (although it has 'topped out' now after several years). I can't say I've defintely experienced fat loss because I am ageing too, but the slight shadowing/discolouration under my eyes, isn't so easy to conceal with makeup as it used to be.
I've thrown away my current tube of Revitalash and have just ordered RevivSerums on your recommendation!
Penny, I ordered the Revivserum based on your recommendation. How long before you saw results and how long does it last if planning on using for both eyelashes and eyebrows?
Ive used Larissa briefly years ago, revitllash a couple years ago for a while (great lash results) and then went more “natural” or so I thought with Nulastin. Recently back to Revitalash to get more pronounced results. ALL THREE of these have the PG or analogs in them!!!! My eyes look dark hollow and awful quite frankly!! I am so glad to have run across this info on you tube (thanks to Gloria’s channel and now Penn’s) I am stopping and will expect my eyes to heal knowing our body has such intelligence and healing abilities-and be aware of the power of our thoughts!! IF i had known this earlier or at least known what to watch for….. I tell you it is super disheartening to look in the mirror-it is depressing!! Thank god i know the reason now. Penn are there any mascaras that we need to worry about (obviously would avoid those from the same companies as the lash serums above! Thank you!!