@@ArynCrinn 20 Jonbucks gets you a Squidbuck. 15 Squidbucks can be traded for a GW dinero. And I don't even want to tell you what 100 GW dineros gets you.
I appreciate the evenhanded review of these shades and the new contrast paints. However, the thing that made this video worth it for me was this. “Make regular painting a part of your routine and paint things that excite you. Improvements and fun will always follow.” Simple but valid truths.
when i used to get nuln oil and agarax earthshade, i would also get a bottle of lahmian medium for each and cut them 50/50. it resulted in exactly the effect you are getting from these new shades. so it looks like they are just selling you 50% of the pigment at 25% less volume for the same cost.
As for the effect of the new Nuln, I have a pot of 50/50 normal and gloss mix which apply the same as the New, including slight satin finish. If i thin it down with Contrast Medium, i get less shine.. if i thin with Lahmian Medium, i get the same thinned look as new Nuln. Conclusion: Ripoff.
Don't wait on a comment from Ninjon regarding this. He signed off his soul with the GW NDA, nothing ever coming out of his mouth can be considered un-biased and the truth anymore.
Nice, fair review of these paints. I hope you know how much it helps to see you using them. There's tons of videos from folks who also attended the event that are applying them one by one on a model or test piece. As much as that helps to see the individual color, it doesn't put the paints into a real world scenario. You mixed, layered, and have great examples of how to push these paints to another level. You didn't demonstrate just the colors, but how to use them as a new tool. I'm impressed with your use of shade over contrast. Especially Ballz Deep on the shield. Well done.
2:12 is that old - new correct? For nuln oil you had the new on the left and for agrax the left definitely looks the better and less splotchy on the flat areas.
Playing the devils advocate here, but if youd mix in another 6ml medium or water into the new nuln oil, youd end up with basically the same product. Considering how much darker the new formula is.
Yeah, and aside from the fact that it was more product I liked the size difference cause I could always pick out my shades because of the big bottle, now they will mix in with the contrasts more
People will still buy them though, despite Vallejo and Scale Colour being far superior people will still get on their knees for the Citadel range because they don’t know how to paint models without GW paints.
The moment I realized you made it, was when a random dude in a Warhammer store in Munich told me to check out your Night Lords video. You're international, babyyyy!
Sounded like a direct nod to Bullet w/ Butterfly Wings - with a little hybred lyric from Schoolhouse Rock - “I’m just a Bill…” 1976 - Saturday morning kids’ tv…yeah, I’m old! Good content - looking forward to trying a few of these shades/paints and adding to the arsenal 👍🏻
This is by far the best review of the new shades I have seen! They way you reflect and describe how the new shades work and responds really enables me to consider how it would affect my particular way of working and painting. Thank you so much!
Great video and an excellent review of these new paints - your detailed info helps understanding what they can and can’t do…and seeing your painted figure is also a great help. Thank you!
I'm loving it man. I have been a fan of Black Templar thinned with contrast medium instead of Nuln Oil. Really any contrast thinned with the medium does this. That looks like what this new shade is. So yup for me.
At this point, after seeing all of the other competing ranges come out in bottles, the decision to continue to produce flip top pots is entirely conscious and intended to produce more waste and thus generate more sales through premature replacement. It will never change.
If this paint release was “the future of painting or the new era” or whatever they advertised, imagine the party they’ll throw for themselves if they ever switch to droppers.
1:20 when he said what the GW pallet paper was, immediately drove to hobby lobby and found a Palette Paper Pad - 9" x 12" from Master Touch for $6.99. Waiting for them to go 50% during their monthly sales, cut the pad in half, long story short (80) 4.5" x 6" pallet paper for $4.25. God bless Ninjon!!
No shit man you have given me the inspiration to paint my plastic crack so many times now lol. Everytime I cbf painting I watch one of your vids and BOOM its painting time! Your a true legend my dude.
I remember first getting started and the law of the land was basically "base coat, wash, dry brush your base again, and maybe a dry brush highlight" to get you to 3 colors fast. How far we've come. I will miss the glaze/tinting that nuln oil skill in a bottle provided, it's such a normal part of my work flow but things change. That shield was radioactive bright and I'm impressed by how amazing it looks once all the washes are applied.
Smaller pots for the same price is something GW have been since the 90's. I know, i was painting minis for 2nd edition WH40k and Necromunda back then and saw GW shrink paint pot sizes and keep the same price. They also reduced the number of minis you got in blister packs and kept the same price. Some things never change...
Seems most of the content creators, beyond the great how to paint HH minis, are all about how great GW are and have all chosen to be highjacked by them.
@@Ninjon I watched and enjoyed. But I also have opinions and views. And great that yours allows us to give our views. Look forward to your non GW ones too
I'm telling you, Jon, for transparent paint, just pick up the Golden High Flow transparent set. It's 8 excellent transparents that make a great compliment to your contrast and speedpaint lineups.
Lovely thorough review again. Really appreciated that you go through the plusses and the minuses. I'm looking forward to picking some up when my existing ones run out. Beautiful finish on that Kruleboy.
Agreed, smaller pot/larger price= ridiculous. I'll only buy these when my current collection of washes finally run out, and I'm not using them near as often as I used to, further.
While we are all aware that GW politely asks RUclipsrs to say nice things about their products in exchange for early gifts, I think we can all agree that Ninjon has the best intros of all the mini-painting-youtubers.
Oof. That bit about spilling Nuln Oil hit home. Literally on the very first set of figures I ever painted I knocked over my pot of it and lost about two thirds all over my desk. From then on it became the main reason why I dislike GW's containers. Knock over a dropper bottle? No worries. Knock over a GW pot? Welp, there goes 4 bucks worth of paint.
I enjoy the thought of the shades working more like contrasts to stain less but you hit the nail on the head with the fact we lose the tinting capabilities with the new shades, maybe they we launch a new Glaze line in the future for that hole in their paint line now? But I'm not getting rid of my home made oil washes any time soon for these. When the announcent of "new revolution in painting" came out my guess was GW branded oils or enamels due to how most people are now phasing into them versus acrylic washes.
i make a custom shade with the grime and agrax. 3-1 makes an insainly good shade for pretty much anything that you want dirty AND give you deep recese lineing.
I have since forever (OK....40 years) always undercoated my figures with black, so making the change to white in order to try these techniques will be something new in itself.👍😉
I was super hyped about all these new paints and washes, tried them yesterday in gw store and they’re all varying degrees of inks thinned and mixed with flow aids for more money
So good I've watched this twice already!!! And there you go again Jon, encouragement and more encouragement. You really build us up to 'slay the grey'! 👏👏👏👏👍😉
Bullet With Butterfly Wings - Smashing Pumpkins Side note, I really enjoyed your mix of paints (GW, ProAcryl, etc). It brought another perspective on using the new inks and contrast paints. Have you tried the new GW shades and contrasts in an airbrush yet?
I love the little bit at the end of just painting being the best way to improve. Is there a video out for that plaguebearer? I'm just starting out on some maggotkin units, and would love to see how you got that green skin.
Unless it's a color I can't live without, I won't bother with their paints until they move to dropper bottles. I'm trying to rescue my current GW paints as they gobbed up really bad while being unopened... Great video!
@@hiddenleaf414 that, and you get colour out without having to clean a brush afterwards, and drops are very simple to count for mixing recipes. Oh, and knocking them over results in 0 spill
Love it. Hey how good of a connection Sadie’s that Busch’s bean can give you? Also where do I send for my 5 John Bucks. Need to save them up for a big purchase.
SO a thinner paint ( even if you try to spin it a different way because that 'new' look could also be had by thinning the 'old' formula ) which means two coats to get the 'old' look and 25% less paint at the same price. Way to go GW, you really are 'squeezing' your customers.
"My bullet with butterfly wings." .... But otherwise awesome and informative video. Your one of the mini painters that I make sure not to miss any videos.
I live in Nottingham and I keep hearing about the super secret event down the road and it drives me nuts to think that all my mini painting heroes from around the world converged in my city!! 😂
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6:09 easiest five John bucks I ever made! Bolter with Aquilia Wings by Smashing Heretics, of course.
5 out of 3 noise marines agree.
What can I buy with my five Jon bucks?
Shoulda been painting an imprisoned Skaven for full nerd in joke 🎃
@@ArynCrinn 20 Jonbucks gets you a Squidbuck. 15 Squidbucks can be traded for a GW dinero. And I don't even want to tell you what 100 GW dineros gets you.
Paused the video to look for a good comment about that and you did the job very well!
I appreciate the evenhanded review of these shades and the new contrast paints. However, the thing that made this video worth it for me was this.
“Make regular painting a part of your routine and paint things that excite you. Improvements and fun will always follow.” Simple but valid truths.
Bullet with Butterfly Wings.
Informative breakdown, good sir.
5:00 yoooo that Plaguebearer looks fantastic, I never would've guessed it was just washes if you hadn't said so!
Song reference is Bullet with Butterfly Wings, right?
when i used to get nuln oil and agarax earthshade, i would also get a bottle of lahmian medium for each and cut them 50/50. it resulted in exactly the effect you are getting from these new shades. so it looks like they are just selling you 50% of the pigment at 25% less volume for the same cost.
That's exactly what it looks like. Crooks.
As for the effect of the new Nuln, I have a pot of 50/50 normal and gloss mix which apply the same as the New, including slight satin finish. If i thin it down with Contrast Medium, i get less shine.. if i thin with Lahmian Medium, i get the same thinned look as new Nuln. Conclusion: Ripoff.
Despite all my rage im still just a rat in a cage!! John is secretly giving us signs GW has him locked away and needs help!
"And improvement and fun will always follow". That!! Thank you for another great video and a greater lesson!
Unfortunately I think any of the improvements are overshadowed by the 25% smaller bottle, GW prices are getting silly enough as is the past few years
You mean overshaded
Yeah and it’s crazy how he just tried to gloss over that and quickly move on to other things. That’s literally terrible dude is such a sheep 💀
Don't wait on a comment from Ninjon regarding this. He signed off his soul with the GW NDA, nothing ever coming out of his mouth can be considered un-biased and the truth anymore.
@@NightfallTH Do you know for sure he signed the NDA?
@@NightfallTH yeah he signed his soul away to cover sh***y products that are overpriced and outshined by Scale Colour and Vallejo.
Nice, fair review of these paints. I hope you know how much it helps to see you using them. There's tons of videos from folks who also attended the event that are applying them one by one on a model or test piece. As much as that helps to see the individual color, it doesn't put the paints into a real world scenario. You mixed, layered, and have great examples of how to push these paints to another level. You didn't demonstrate just the colors, but how to use them as a new tool. I'm impressed with your use of shade over contrast. Especially Ballz Deep on the shield. Well done.
Wow! Fabulous pirate-voice! Well done. My favorite mid video ad ever!!
2:12 is that old - new correct? For nuln oil you had the new on the left and for agrax the left definitely looks the better and less splotchy on the flat areas.
That’s what I though too
@@vee_tinymoose And me looks the opposite to what he said.
The biggest travesty here is that they've made the bottles smaller and kept the price the same....ridiculous.
Yet people will keep buying
Good ole' shrink-flation
Playing the devils advocate here, but if youd mix in another 6ml medium or water into the new nuln oil, youd end up with basically the same product.
Considering how much darker the new formula is.
Yeah, and aside from the fact that it was more product I liked the size difference cause I could always pick out my shades because of the big bottle, now they will mix in with the contrasts more
People will still buy them though, despite Vallejo and Scale Colour being far superior people will still get on their knees for the Citadel range because they don’t know how to paint models without GW paints.
Love your wise words at the end about new paints don't make you better!
The moment I realized you made it, was when a random dude in a Warhammer store in Munich told me to check out your Night Lords video. You're international, babyyyy!
Ummm.... When did monument hobbies come out with a proacryl glaze and wash medium?
Sounded like a direct nod to Bullet w/ Butterfly Wings - with a little hybred lyric from Schoolhouse Rock - “I’m just a Bill…” 1976 - Saturday morning kids’ tv…yeah, I’m old! Good content - looking forward to trying a few of these shades/paints and adding to the arsenal 👍🏻
Honestly to me the new shades look like what I've been doing past few years which is the add contrast medium to help draw the wash into the recesses
This is by far the best review of the new shades I have seen! They way you reflect and describe how the new shades work and responds really enables me to consider how it would affect my particular way of working and painting. Thank you so much!
I can't believe how detailed your painting tips are dude honestly there by far the most helpful I have found!
This is the most beautiful miniature painted this shades and contrast i've ever seen. Wow !
The pumpkins reference was awesome! You rock brother keep up the great work!
Did you get your 5 Jon-bucks?
6:05 Smashing Pumpkins, Bullet With Butterfly Wings ^^
So, you're telling me that this plaguebearer is entirely painted with shades ?! That's damn impressive
That's the video I was hoping to see when he showed that mini.
Interesting and thanks for sharing your insight. Also Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness is still a great album.
Great video and an excellent review of these new paints - your detailed info helps understanding what they can and can’t do…and seeing your painted figure is also a great help. Thank you!
These Intros are some of the best around! keep doing what you do best Jon
I'm loving it man. I have been a fan of Black Templar thinned with contrast medium instead of Nuln Oil. Really any contrast thinned with the medium does this. That looks like what this new shade is. So yup for me.
That’s what it is exactly I believe. All of the shade line now use a different medium than before - the contrast medium.
Damn they keep improving their paints, maybe in 10 years we will deserve dropper bottles :P
At this point, after seeing all of the other competing ranges come out in bottles, the decision to continue to produce flip top pots is entirely conscious and intended to produce more waste and thus generate more sales through premature replacement. It will never change.
Yeah, but they will be 7ml dropper bottles and cost $21.
If this paint release was “the future of painting or the new era” or whatever they advertised, imagine the party they’ll throw for themselves if they ever switch to droppers.
@@asaffin1 Si puede cambiar, pueden hacer botes peores.
Coffee staining, that is a perfect discription! But a side effect I've noticed is it gives a leather feel to me
1:20 when he said what the GW pallet paper was, immediately drove to hobby lobby and found a Palette Paper Pad - 9" x 12" from Master Touch for $6.99. Waiting for them to go 50% during their monthly sales, cut the pad in half, long story short (80) 4.5" x 6" pallet paper for $4.25. God bless Ninjon!!
No shit man you have given me the inspiration to paint my plastic crack so many times now lol. Everytime I cbf painting I watch one of your vids and BOOM its painting time! Your a true legend my dude.
Gorgeous paint job! Would love to see more painting in the future!
I remember first getting started and the law of the land was basically "base coat, wash, dry brush your base again, and maybe a dry brush highlight" to get you to 3 colors fast. How far we've come. I will miss the glaze/tinting that nuln oil skill in a bottle provided, it's such a normal part of my work flow but things change.
That shield was radioactive bright and I'm impressed by how amazing it looks once all the washes are applied.
I like the song reference! one of my favorites!
Thank you and keep it up, always a pleasure to watch your videos
Smashing pumpkins reveal how old John really is despite his baby smooth skin... The world is a vampire.
That new Nuln Oil looks *fantastic*!
your paint analysis videos are great
Chef's kiss for the intro.
Also, The Smashing Pumpkins.
Smaller pots for the same price is something GW have been since the 90's. I know, i was painting minis for 2nd edition WH40k and Necromunda back then and saw GW shrink paint pot sizes and keep the same price. They also reduced the number of minis you got in blister packs and kept the same price.
Some things never change...
Corporate bloat.
I will definitely buy that pale grey.
You know the vids gonna be good when Jon is using the “Bush’s Baked Bean phone”
Seems most of the content creators, beyond the great how to paint HH minis, are all about how great GW are and have all chosen to be highjacked by them.
So you didn’t watch the video, huh
@@Ninjon I watched and enjoyed. But I also have opinions and views. And great that yours allows us to give our views. Look forward to your non GW ones too
Having said that. People want to know about the new shades and you provided that. In your usual great style. Maybe I just need more morning coffee
I'm telling you, Jon, for transparent paint, just pick up the Golden High Flow transparent set. It's 8 excellent transparents that make a great compliment to your contrast and speedpaint lineups.
Bullet with butterfly wings!!! An amazing song by smashing pumpkins!
Lovely thorough review again. Really appreciated that you go through the plusses and the minuses. I'm looking forward to picking some up when my existing ones run out. Beautiful finish on that Kruleboy.
Agreed, smaller pot/larger price= ridiculous. I'll only buy these when my current collection of washes finally run out, and I'm not using them near as often as I used to, further.
Thank you , Jon .
🐺
Bullet with Butterfly Wings, excellent SP reference 👍🏽😎
Soulblight Grey looks alot like a smooth non directional zenith. Maby thats the use?
Really great looking shield
While we are all aware that GW politely asks RUclipsrs to say nice things about their products in exchange for early gifts, I think we can all agree that Ninjon has the best intros of all the mini-painting-youtubers.
As I understand it, they are not exactly "polite" about it.
Love the orruk by the way!
Oof. That bit about spilling Nuln Oil hit home. Literally on the very first set of figures I ever painted I knocked over my pot of it and lost about two thirds all over my desk. From then on it became the main reason why I dislike GW's containers. Knock over a dropper bottle? No worries. Knock over a GW pot? Welp, there goes 4 bucks worth of paint.
Agrax is usually the one that gets spilled at my desk. It hurts every time.
Love the smashing pumpkins!!! Nice reference!!!!
That grey will be great for clone/storm troopers
What's the conversion rates of Jon bucks to Stanley nickels?
It's reminding me of painting mini's with a watercolor workflow. light to dark, careful blocking etc.
Great video Jon. Really appreciate the level of explanation and candidness!
Smashing Pumpkins Jon! And still jealous. I want those new paints.
Smashing pumpkins! Thanks for the great video and throw back to my teens👍🏻
Nice and honest review, as usual
Thanks for the overview. Between this and your contrast review I have all the information I need to buy the new paints.
I enjoy the thought of the shades working more like contrasts to stain less but you hit the nail on the head with the fact we lose the tinting capabilities with the new shades, maybe they we launch a new Glaze line in the future for that hole in their paint line now? But I'm not getting rid of my home made oil washes any time soon for these. When the announcent of "new revolution in painting" came out my guess was GW branded oils or enamels due to how most people are now phasing into them versus acrylic washes.
i make a custom shade with the grime and agrax. 3-1 makes an insainly good shade for pretty much anything that you want dirty AND give you deep recese lineing.
I have since forever (OK....40 years) always undercoated my figures with black, so making the change to white in order to try these techniques will be something new in itself.👍😉
I was super hyped about all these new paints and washes, tried them yesterday in gw store and they’re all varying degrees of inks thinned and mixed with flow aids for more money
super informative. guess we're doing two coats of nuln now. So it goes. Amazing end ork mini too!
Great honest review.
How's the reception on that can of beans? I've been thinking of upgrading from my creamed corn.
Great tutorial, thank you 🙏
So good I've watched this twice already!!! And there you go again Jon, encouragement and more encouragement. You really build us up to 'slay the grey'! 👏👏👏👏👍😉
Bullet With Butterfly Wings - Smashing Pumpkins
Side note, I really enjoyed your mix of paints (GW, ProAcryl, etc). It brought another perspective on using the new inks and contrast paints.
Have you tried the new GW shades and contrasts in an airbrush yet?
I also watched another one about the Monument Paint line. What I'd love to see is a head to head on Transparent paints vs. Contrast.
Bullet with butterfly wings! Smashing pumpkins! Rat in a cage!
Have you tried the new monument wash and glazing medium? I'd love to get your opinion on those.
tip of the hat to the chestnut ink. enjoying the videos thanks for the content.
I love the little bit at the end of just painting being the best way to improve. Is there a video out for that plaguebearer? I'm just starting out on some maggotkin units, and would love to see how you got that green skin.
I’m looking at that new grey wash though I’ll more than likely get carried away and buy all the new washes😇
Just grab the vallejo one cheaper and the same effect
How do you paint behind the shield so neat and tidy?
Another excellent and informative video.
Broke down andbought a hoodie Jon!! Keep it up!
Yay John bucks! I'll use them to buy new butterfly wings.
Ahh bullet with butterfly wings, still my fav song of theirs
Best. Pirate voice. Ever!
Smashing pumpkins of course! Great reference lol
Could you maybe post a pic of comparing apothecary white and soulblight grey?
The grey one is for white armor GSC
Unless it's a color I can't live without, I won't bother with their paints until they move to dropper bottles. I'm trying to rescue my current GW paints as they gobbed up really bad while being unopened... Great video!
Is it because dropper bottles have a better seal?
@@hiddenleaf414 that, and you get colour out without having to clean a brush afterwards, and drops are very simple to count for mixing recipes. Oh, and knocking them over results in 0 spill
Not only did I just discover Umbrella Games, but I also found out his brick and mortar shop is 5 min away from my house. That place is awesome!!!
As always, I come here for the intros and bloopers and I wind up learning a ton.
I'm really looking forward to the grey for a cheat shade for white cloth.
I need this dude’s videos on a regular basis for the overall well being of my mental health lol
Love it. Hey how good of a connection Sadie’s that Busch’s bean can give you? Also where do I send for my 5 John Bucks. Need to save them up for a big purchase.
Thanks for this review
MR NINJON!! Where Argus the good boy?? 🤷♂️🥰🐶
SO a thinner paint ( even if you try to spin it a different way because that 'new' look could also be had by thinning the 'old' formula ) which means two coats to get the 'old' look and 25% less paint at the same price. Way to go GW, you really are 'squeezing' your customers.
"My bullet with butterfly wings." ....
But otherwise awesome and informative video. Your one of the mini painters that I make sure not to miss any videos.
A Smashing Pumpkins classic. Still a decent song.
How was the new rattle can of white scar?
I live in Nottingham and I keep hearing about the super secret event down the road and it drives me nuts to think that all my mini painting heroes from around the world converged in my city!! 😂