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  • Опубликовано: 1 июл 2022
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  • @SquidmarMiniatures
    @SquidmarMiniatures  Год назад +3

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  • @leeroyjenkins1981
    @leeroyjenkins1981 2 года назад +118

    Hey dude, you listed some of your go-to paints for some colors. Could you make a video listing what your favourite paints are for each colour? Like if you're painting orange what are your favourite paints for an orange base, highlight options, etc?

  • @Acorbet86
    @Acorbet86 2 года назад +342

    Biggest complaint about GW paints = the pots.
    GWs solution = more paints of lower volume!

    • @hughwoodford
      @hughwoodford 2 года назад +18

      if you spill them you probably lose less £££ in paint, 5head

    • @Phoenixillusion18
      @Phoenixillusion18 2 года назад +5

      I mean it would be a mess to make the transition to bottles at this point.
      First they would have to stop paint production for a year or maybe more, reason being they must sell the bottles that where already made.
      Because if they would release bottles today everyone would start buying only those making the pots worthless.
      And in that scenario imagine owning a store and having a stock a 1k dollars or more of these pots in store that just became worthless over night.

    • @Acorbet86
      @Acorbet86 2 года назад +26

      @@Phoenixillusion18 erm...you do know they've changed pot types multiple times over the years?

    • @hughwoodford
      @hughwoodford 2 года назад +7

      @@Phoenixillusion18 Isn't GWs stocking notoriously low? This is why practically every online store has only like 3 of each paint. Secondly you could make this exact argument you are making about pot shape as you can about the new shades. If the new ones are better, why would anyone buy the old ones and how come GW aren't stuck with 1k dollars or more of these old shades?

    • @peterpan4038
      @peterpan4038 2 года назад

      @@Acorbet86 Yes, but the old ones always took a while to phase out.
      And they usually stick to very similiar form factors.

  • @NerdySatyr
    @NerdySatyr 2 года назад +128

    Pylar Glacier low coverage is kind of intended surely, it's meant for painting snowy/icey miniatures? Or thin it even more for blue'ish cold whites. I love it personally! Perfect for things like Beastclaw Raiders :D

    • @Codes911
      @Codes911 2 года назад +34

      I've noticed multiple other painters complain about it but all the work i've seen done with it look perfect for the intended purpose. It's like they forgot the "glacier" part of the name and are just directly comparing it to the other contrasts. Maybe it'd be reviewed a tad better if it were released as part of the technical line.

    • @johnimal1
      @johnimal1 2 года назад +5

      It's the one I'm most interested in. Have alot of icy themes to paint soon, with "white" ice dragon, frosthaven minis, wings of angels... Who knows what else

    • @michaelstefanou7744
      @michaelstefanou7744 2 года назад +6

      So true. The spider squidmar shows literally looks like it's been hit with an ice spell in a D & D / Gloomhaven / Descent game. Great finish.

    • @Ulfhrim
      @Ulfhrim 2 года назад +2

      Yea 100% it snd Frostheart are what I'm most excited for.

    • @trevorwall87
      @trevorwall87 2 года назад

      Temheres international variable opacity across the range

  • @johnhammond6225
    @johnhammond6225 2 года назад +57

    GW needs to ditch the pots, stop decreasing the volume, and drop the price. Especially when speed paints by AP do the same thing, maybe even better, and they cost $80 for the mega set.

    • @someblacktemplar
      @someblacktemplar Год назад +1

      Games workshop: eh I don’t really care😒

    • @tylerward4386
      @tylerward4386 Год назад

      The pots probably aren't going away quickly. That takes an manufacturing redesign and that's very expensive. If they are indeed being out competed in the paints then it's probably not worth the effort

    • @Thornspyre81
      @Thornspyre81 6 месяцев назад

      Honestly, they sell so well why would they. You know?

  • @Wodferd
    @Wodferd 2 года назад +15

    The one thing i've found since they released the contrasts is that the really thin almost shade quality paints, are really good for going over metallic base coats. Adds some really nice combination options

  • @brentc3580
    @brentc3580 2 года назад +185

    Emil! Best video I’ve seen on these thus far. I completely agree when it comes to giving the customer more info. Like, take Pylar Glacier- I’ve heard people say it’s more accurately a Technical paint, as it should only be used on white to achieve an “ice” effect. But, seeing as that’s not said anywhere, people just have to guess through trial and error. It’s especially ridiculous when you consider that, like you said in the beginning, these are usually marketed as newbie-friendly ways to get a lot of work done fast…

    • @mkaali
      @mkaali 2 года назад +21

      I don't agree at all. Beginners don't guess through trial and error until they find what they like. That's what pros do, they try dozens of different paints until they find what they like. Beginners just look at a guide or the back of the box to see what paints they are using and just buys them. If it says Pylar Glacier, they'll buy it and if it doesn't they don't.
      So if a pro picks Pylar Glacier and find it bad for their use, that's what they'll do. Tagging them surely could help, but not the beginners, they don't even know or care what matte, single pigment or even coverage mean.

    • @mcspiffington
      @mcspiffington 2 года назад

      @@mkaali I'd even go so far to say. To me, phylar is obviously an extremely weak colour. Has anyone tried it over a dark colour to see if it does the opposite; brighter recesses?

    • @Pandapeep
      @Pandapeep 2 года назад +9

      It is called 'glacier,' and every picture communicates that it is an ice paint.

    • @OldManRogers
      @OldManRogers 2 года назад +2

      I hate how GW have changed paints about 4 or 5 times and not always for the better. Contrast is expensive, each colour has different properties so unless you research or experiment with that colour it's difficult to know how it will react

    • @High_Lord_Of_Terra
      @High_Lord_Of_Terra 2 года назад +1

      I'm not sure it's gws job to hold your hand while you paint.

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    @SquidmarMiniatures  2 года назад +26

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    • @CalAndAly
      @CalAndAly 2 года назад

      Whoa these tshirts are fucking sicc. I was noticing different shirts throughout the vid, prob the best way I’ve seen an ad done on youtube in a min. Gotta full cart already with your discount

  • @Dash277
    @Dash277 2 года назад +36

    Great point on tagging them. Opacity, finish, matte/satin/gloss ... would definitely help!

    • @Defeshh
      @Defeshh 2 года назад +5

      The funny thing is that normal artist paints have been giving that information for generations, including information of the pigments

  •  2 года назад +13

    FREAKING THANK YOU for being the only person so far to try these new contrast paints with black+white zenithal. Everyone else is showcasing them with the new white primer, which I'm not going to get, so this was super useful!!

  • @DCAMM720
    @DCAMM720 2 года назад +52

    I think when contrasts came out they were shown very incorrectly. I could paint a table ready army in half the time with contrasts than I could with normal paints and it will look just as good. Most people try using them as a thick wash all over the model which is just silly. You don't want to glob it on like so many channels showed. Doing slow, even coats of contrast over armor basically finishes it to a table standard in a single coat. Same goes for leather, skin, etc. The only thing contrast truly fails at is tiny details because it's hard to control. But for base coating I find it faster than even airbrush so I hardly use my airbrush anymore. I can base coat a marine the same way in half the time. Which saves a ton when you're painting 30 troops at a time.

    • @bluedotdinosaur
      @bluedotdinosaur 2 года назад +18

      Funny thing - after Duncan left GW and started his own channel, he immediately began using Contrast paint in exactly the way you describe with the same results. Clearly, as an experienced painter, he had quickly figured out how the paint was intended to be used. But while at GW he was probably gagged by their marketing team and couldn't make a video demonstrating the correct technique.
      One of the key videos he made that shows how powerful contrast is when used correctly was simply painting an Imperial Fist. Step 1: yellow contrast. Step 2: a super easy to do, quick glaze of thinned down yellow paint over the flat areas to make the yellow even purer and remove absolutely any remaining stains from the contrast. The result was something that looked like a flawless, painstaking yellow base but in very little time.

    • @DCAMM720
      @DCAMM720 2 года назад

      @@bluedotdinosaur I'll have to check it out, haven't seen much of Duncan stuff for a long time but I know he has his own channel now. Maybe the guy I heard it from heard it from Duncan lol.
      Sounds like a similar process to what I did with some Black Templars. You can do the contrast paint or even two coats and it'll look alright but if you want a really deep black you can do a coat of Shyish Purple(I think is the name) and then Black Templar contrast over it and it makes the armor look great. In batch painting I found it quicker than doing something like two coats of Abaddon Black or something.

    • @GloriousGrunt
      @GloriousGrunt 2 года назад +2

      it also fails if you acidently get a darker paint on the contrast, you have to go back to white and re-contrast to fix it, especially lighter colors like -

    • @zandosdwarf-king
      @zandosdwarf-king 2 года назад

      I love contrasts, but after all those years, my favourite use is still easy metal of any color

    • @Anjohl
      @Anjohl 2 года назад

      the nicest thing about Contrast is that it works really well as a combo of a base and wash that you can paint over. Also, you can move the pigment around while it's wet, which gives you a superb amount of control over it, once you get used to using the given paint.

  • @abyssthewolfyt1274
    @abyssthewolfyt1274 2 года назад +56

    The reason pylad glacier is so translucent is because it is meant to be used to make really good ice detail.

    • @Jathom
      @Jathom 2 года назад +27

      This is cool and all but seems like it should be a technical paint rather than a Contrast paint.

    • @markhanson9508
      @markhanson9508 2 года назад +5

      So like really limited in its application.

    • @TenshiProductionz
      @TenshiProductionz 2 года назад +4

      Problem is, it does not look like ice at all nor does it’s looks icy. It just looks… ghostly you will ended up needing to touch up lots of stuff and repaint parts because it’s to thin, makes this useless.

    • @timreeves
      @timreeves 2 года назад +2

      I think both the pale aqua shades that squidmar dismissed are fantastic for icy stuff, and even if there's not many citadel minis that have an ice theme, there's terrain and DnD minis that definitely do dig deep into ice.

    • @MarioMario-uy2my
      @MarioMario-uy2my 2 года назад +1

      Also ots good for making plasma effects

  • @Jathom
    @Jathom 2 года назад +12

    This is the best review I've seen of the new Contrast paints. I think that's because we get to see it over a zenithal, where everyone else has been showing it over solid white primer, which makes a lot of them just look like a layer of paint. Thank you!

    • @seanfinley2069
      @seanfinley2069 2 года назад +1

      I think that's a flaw with the contrast paints. The entire premise of "contrast" is that they're supposed to give you recess shading, midtone, and highlight in one go. A lot of thee don't.

  • @michamalinowski8015
    @michamalinowski8015 2 года назад +11

    I feel that they work more as single coat layer paints. The ammount of shading and highlighting they give when compared to the first line is minimal.

  • @MisterTingles
    @MisterTingles 2 года назад +8

    The variety of colors is one of the strongest attributes citadel has going for them, and some of the ones that don't seem exiting or useful to one painter are a godsend for another, like that glacier one for someone who's painting an army with frost weapons. But i wholeheartedly agree that they need to be less obtuse about what certain specialty paints might be useful for, they are notoriously bad at covering that aspect in their own video material (i suspect their print media might be more helpful, but i don't peruse those) and people usually have to rely on outside sources like hobbyists on YT to figure them out...

  • @palmermiddlekauff6030
    @palmermiddlekauff6030 2 года назад

    I saw the clickbait thumbnail and ignored this video for a while and just now watched it. Its actually a great video and very helpful, I just would not have known based off thumbnail

  • @lovemysi07
    @lovemysi07 2 года назад +3

    THANK YOU for stating the labels they should put on the bottles. I will be buying these paints selectively and the information you shared will help me choosing which ones to get.

  • @josephrigley8974
    @josephrigley8974 2 года назад +4

    Pylar glaciar looked great tbh I don't care that it doesn't have a ridiculous high pigmentation it's going to make for really nice ice effects.

    • @sorcam
      @sorcam 2 года назад +1

      Maybe also as like an energy effect on power swords and lightning claws.

  • @KabinMiniatures
    @KabinMiniatures 2 года назад +39

    Imperial Fist seems to be universally loved - I'm looking forward to trying it!

    • @richardbradley2335
      @richardbradley2335 2 года назад +1

      So are Ultramarines !

    • @azrielslytherin2604
      @azrielslytherin2604 2 года назад

      @@richardbradley2335 they were talking about the color.

    • @richardbradley2335
      @richardbradley2335 2 года назад

      @@azrielslytherin2604 meh...i stand by what i said ''Go Ultramarines''....

    • @NuclearFridge1
      @NuclearFridge1 2 года назад

      Yellow has always been my "don't go there" colour. So maybe... Just maybe... Imperial Fist can fix this issue for me.

    • @richardbradley2335
      @richardbradley2335 2 года назад

      @@NuclearFridge1 That's why ive used emulsion on my figs.

  • @MarioMario-uy2my
    @MarioMario-uy2my 2 года назад +1

    What I got from this is there is finally a bright yellow paint that covers well

  • @aegil-
    @aegil- 2 года назад +6

    This was such a well-presented and useful video! Thanks for your candid and unequivocal review of these new paints.

  • @PeteTheWargamer
    @PeteTheWargamer 2 года назад +1

    7:24 The clues in the name, you use it over white to create ice effects 😉

  • @adamkrajco1920
    @adamkrajco1920 2 года назад +3

    Pylar glacier is made for ice effects and it's perfect for that use

  • @KnightYellow
    @KnightYellow 2 года назад +2

    Ended up ordering 13 of the new paints this morning before the video and my choices largely aligned with Squidmar's, albeit I took a chance on Pylar Glacier as I think it could come in handy doing ice effect weapons or armour.
    Most looking forward to being able to put down a single layer of IF yellow without the need of an airbrush or multiple thinned acrylic coats. Could make black and yellow hazard stripes easier too.

  • @therealDonMac
    @therealDonMac 2 года назад +4

    A a hobbyist, I wouldn't spend the money on contrast paints. They are simply over priced. If it weren't for Games Workshop using content creators as influencers , they probably wouldn't make near as much money. I'm not complaining that they do it, it's a smart way to show off the quality of their product and all the larger brands do it. If they lowered their prices just a bit, and used dropper style bottles for their paints, they would make more money. I simply can't imagine their product line of paints being that much better than the competition. Great video as always, Thank you. You make me want to try them, but the price keeps me from actually going ahead.

    • @ysbrann3059
      @ysbrann3059 2 года назад

      it s not that overpriced when i one paint you dont have to also by a paint to shade and do the edge.

    • @therealDonMac
      @therealDonMac 2 года назад +1

      @@ysbrann3059 I have never seen a quality paint job from just one paint. You will always have to at least highlight to get a nice looking paint job. Contrast paints, speed paints, none of them are really one coat and done paints for nice paint jobs.

    • @hughwoodford
      @hughwoodford 2 года назад +1

      @@ysbrann3059 if you want to see how many paints a genuinely high quality contrast painter uses, go check out Juan Hidalgo videos. Contrast is just part of an overall process and it still requires a lot of extra work.
      Also of relevance given the video is that many of the new contrast paints are simply not giving a contrast effect and simply act as bright inks, so for many of these new paints even trying to get a very basic look is still going to take extra work.

    • @ysbrann3059
      @ysbrann3059 2 года назад

      @@hughwoodford High quality painter are a minority. Most people can be satisfied with a few paint for their color scheme.

    • @hughwoodford
      @hughwoodford 2 года назад

      @@ysbrann3059 ok I mean i guess it depends on what you paint minis for. For me painting IS the hobby so self improvement is an intrinsic part of the process of enjoying it. If you are painting to get minis on the table then i think it works ok or even pretty damn good

  • @syd4890
    @syd4890 2 года назад +1

    And this is why you werent invited to the GW weekend party. Nice honest review mate ♡

  • @cinderheart2720
    @cinderheart2720 11 месяцев назад

    I found the doomfire magenta to be very bright and pigmented, **IF** you shake the pot a ton before applying. If you don't shake, it comes out darker and more red.

  • @ge_hoff4181
    @ge_hoff4181 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for giving me your take on putting these new ones through the air brush. I was a hater until I saw you use them in an airbrush and now Swear by it.🤘

  • @MrFive2FiveVods
    @MrFive2FiveVods 2 года назад +2

    Hey Squidmar id love it if you had an updated video on how to start out with warhammer minis, like all the basics knives/paints/brushes/cheap minis to practice on ect. as someone who wants to eventually have a full kreig army (i know they cost ALOT) my main problem is having no idea where to start and what i need. if you ever see this know i ADORE this channel

    • @SquidmarMiniatures
      @SquidmarMiniatures  2 года назад +1

      Hey there's 3-4 videos like that both for basing and painting and hobbying. Maybe i should lake a playlist :)

    • @ShupMup
      @ShupMup 2 года назад

      @@SquidmarMiniatures that would be great

    • @MrFive2FiveVods
      @MrFive2FiveVods 2 года назад

      @@SquidmarMiniatures oh a playlist would be amazing id love that :D

  • @Vexariongaming
    @Vexariongaming 2 года назад +1

    Im going to be picking up Pylar Glacier for frost weapons for my space wolves for sure

  • @pez5767
    @pez5767 2 года назад +4

    I've been trying your technique of using the airbrush with Contrast paints on a white/zenithal primer. I think there are some subtle tips and hints about how you apply the airbrushed base coat and how you apply the contrast paints that you didn't really touch on in your contrast paints video about this technique. It would be great to see a full tutorial on a miniature aobut how/why you apply the paints. (directions, intensity, shadow, etc.)

    • @Omega_MCX
      @Omega_MCX 2 года назад +2

      Seconded for this, I'm curious about the best way to use contrast in an airbrush, does he thin them down? What airbrush settings does he use? Getting the answers to those sort of questions would be amazing. :)

    • @kukenstar6684
      @kukenstar6684 2 года назад +1

      I agree!

    • @strov3
      @strov3 2 года назад +1

      I concur! When using the airbrush, it seemed to spill over other zones that would receive other contrast paint down the line, and we know contrast doesn't play well above one another. So is there a ton of detail work done with acrylic afterwards? If yes, kind of defeat the beginner purpose as I don't want to buy contrast and acrylic for all my colors.

  • @proxytag
    @proxytag 2 года назад +11

    Honestly GW should go even farther than Base, and Layer in terms of giving information to the consumer, going full artist paint, show us the pigments and transparency. Hopefully that would influence other paint makers to do the same.

    • @High_Lord_Of_Terra
      @High_Lord_Of_Terra 2 года назад +2

      They've made literally hundreds of painting tutorials. How easy do you wnat it? Painting by numbers?

    • @High_Lord_Of_Terra
      @High_Lord_Of_Terra 2 года назад

      @@jeremiahembs5343 😂😂😂 christ man, you don't expect much do you 😂😂😂 just use artists paint if you what all that nonsense info that is completely irrelevant.

    • @High_Lord_Of_Terra
      @High_Lord_Of_Terra 2 года назад

      @@jeremiahembs5343 you don't need to know any of those things to use the piant though. It's acrylic piant, the colour is visible through the bottle. You act like gw paint is the most expensive paint out there when it really isn't. Good oil paint costs several times what gw acrylics do. Gw paints are mid-priced for hobby paints and even then we're talking a 20 pence difference on a bottle.

    • @High_Lord_Of_Terra
      @High_Lord_Of_Terra 2 года назад

      @@jeremiahembs5343 I'm not reading that word salad, especially after your brought your politics into it.

    • @proxytag
      @proxytag 2 года назад +1

      @@High_Lord_Of_Terra Tutorials aren't what are useful if you're mixing paints yourself, having more information regarding the product that you're spending your money on is always better for you as the consumer, even if you personally don't really care. I don't see how actually including the info for the people that do care would impact the people who don't.

  • @mattrounce2090
    @mattrounce2090 2 года назад +2

    The phlar glacier might be ok on terrain if you're doing ice and snow

  • @wocky7369
    @wocky7369 2 года назад +2

    to be fair to me it seems pylar glacier could be great for getting quick ice effect for weapons etc

  • @durzod2052
    @durzod2052 2 года назад +9

    All too many of these are not "Contrast" paints. They don't get darker in the shadows and lighter in the highlights. But then some of the current Contrast paints don't do this either, unless you thin them.

    • @Fearior
      @Fearior 2 года назад +1

      I agree, as He said - they should be labeled single-pigment as they not function the same way contrast paint do.

  • @Mephiston
    @Mephiston 2 года назад

    Garaghak's sewer can also be used as a muck wash, kinda like how we use oil washes. All you gotta do is reduce it in a roughly 1:3 with something like AP speedpaint medium and it becomes a bit more "smearable" and wet looking, so it can leave streaks and splotches for grime.

  • @shanmtek12000
    @shanmtek12000 2 года назад +1

    Pylar glacier looks like it would be a perfect glaze for power swords.. 🤔

  • @captainweekend5276
    @captainweekend5276 2 года назад +2

    For me black legion is going to be great for just knocking out small details that need to be black that I don't want to put too much effort into, things like boots, belts, gun casing, etc. Whilst a thinned down black could be similar there's a much higher chance that I'd need to do a second coat. In my opinion it's a convenient tool for speed painting, especially in highly textured areas, not having the contrast finish helps as it doesn't matter what colour you're using it over, it's definitely something designed for speed painters.

    • @Navtyr
      @Navtyr 2 года назад +1

      Vallejo black + thinner = same coverage, same density for a fraction of the cost. I doubt you would lose that much time adding some thinner that it would be worth crowning this "speed painter" tool for premium price. I honestly wouldn't even be surprised if that's exactly what's in the GW bottle.

    • @captainweekend5276
      @captainweekend5276 2 года назад

      @@Navtyr I've used vallejo black and I can tell you the coverage is definitely not the same. At the end of the day it's paying for convenience which I'm happy to do, I rarely use pure blacks brush painting since I'll usually start from a black primer, airbrush the black, or use shades. I've watched and read a fair few reviews of the new contrast line and it seems Squidmar is really underselling black legion, either because of personal bias or to say something negative to appease the GW haters.

  • @andrewmuler3146
    @andrewmuler3146 2 года назад +3

    Finally a nice orange... I can't wait to buy.. thanks for this and all your videos

  • @rononel8046
    @rononel8046 2 года назад +1

    You touch on an important point here, "I don't know what I'd use it for".
    Surely this should've been part of Citadel Colour's development process? Asking themselves "What would a painter use this for & is there already something that fulfills that role (even if it needs a bit of medium)?"

  • @cyborgbadger1015
    @cyborgbadger1015 2 года назад +8

    I have a slight problem with contrast paints in that you don't have to thin them which basically means you get half the paint for your money.

    • @ubernija98
      @ubernija98 2 года назад

      But you save having the base and shade as it fills 2 purposes. So it's really more value for money over buying a base and a shade paint.

  • @noeqminiatures5942
    @noeqminiatures5942 2 года назад +5

    Hey Emil, thanks alot for the great breakdown and review of the new paint range. Do you think that the new 'Kroxigor Scales' is better suited over a coat of 'Stormhost Silver' to paint Alpha Legion instead of the old 'Akhelian Green' or do you think both are equally good? Thanks in advance!
    Also, keep up the great work!

  • @vyren2030
    @vyren2030 2 года назад +2

    I have to say - I find pylar Glacier one of the most exciting.
    E.g. for Gray Knights. The opacity is very low but it brings out that nice blue that I would like on some minis to indicate magic/psyker or something else.

    • @sorcam
      @sorcam 2 года назад +1

      could be cool for power swords too

  • @Scherdnr
    @Scherdnr 2 года назад +1

    Contrast line seems to have so many differing properties now that it’s no longer useful description for what you can expect out of the pot. They’re offering many different tools it seems but not making it clear what they each are when you’re standing in front of the rack of their product.

  • @Emperortabletopgaming
    @Emperortabletopgaming 2 года назад

    Thanks, I am glad that I can use IF yellow both in airbrush and brush

  • @novaenforcer1563
    @novaenforcer1563 7 месяцев назад +1

    That glacier paint looks like it could be used for ice or even ice like skin

  • @EdAllen
    @EdAllen 2 года назад +1

    Interesting seeing different reviewers' takes on which ones are useful and why.

  • @gnometroll1717
    @gnometroll1717 2 года назад +3

    This is the kind of video we need when there are new paint product releases. Thanks Emil for the deep dive into reviewing each new color.

  • @thelastcrusader7032
    @thelastcrusader7032 2 года назад +3

    Pylar Glacier's going to be PERFECT for me. It's exactly what I needed for my Space Marine chapter as they've developed an icy blue skin (They're inspired by frost giants form norse myth)

    • @ross2283
      @ross2283 2 года назад

      That sounds neat.

    • @lnSorteDiaboli
      @lnSorteDiaboli 2 года назад

      Sounds like a chapter that would not be allowed to exist.

    • @thelastcrusader7032
      @thelastcrusader7032 2 года назад

      @@lnSorteDiaboli Ehh.. Just like the Sons of the Phoenix.

    • @lnSorteDiaboli
      @lnSorteDiaboli 2 года назад

      @@thelastcrusader7032 Not familiar with them. Are they also rocking icy skin?

    • @thelastcrusader7032
      @thelastcrusader7032 2 года назад

      @@lnSorteDiaboli Nah. But they're sporting the color scheme of the Emperors Children and look suspiciously like Fulgrim.

  • @user-um1xo9ed1x
    @user-um1xo9ed1x 9 месяцев назад

    In the meantime, do I have a colour scheme for you! We have a St Andrews cross spider that has fluro yellow, orange, Rhinox Hide brown and deep red, plus some dry brushed colours. The best thing is these creatures are the same size as the plastic models you just painted so there is no scaling of colours.

  • @anno6969
    @anno6969 2 года назад

    Oh yes!! Info on the pot would be amazing!! One reason I’ve never gone with these is I have no idea what I’m getting. With a base paint I know I’m getting a paint that will cover. When I get a wash I know it’s an ink but the contrast paints 🤷‍♂️.

  • @SedatedDreamer
    @SedatedDreamer 2 года назад +4

    The airbrush work you've done here is wicked awesome! I'm not impressed enough by the new GW paints to buy them now or maybe even ever, but it's always fun watching you test new stuff and report on it.

  • @mr.m12345
    @mr.m12345 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video and running these through the airbrush as well as a paintbrush. I was really curious to see how they did on both.

  • @josephsnyder4581
    @josephsnyder4581 2 года назад +8

    Fantastic video. I really love how you keep a bias toward objectivity (haha) and always harken back to price/usability rather than simply stating how good the paint looks on a model and leaving it there. Keep up the good work!

  • @supernovaproxima1775
    @supernovaproxima1775 2 года назад +1

    Hey Emil. I had an idea for a video. I'm a new painter who doesn't have access to high quality miniatures yet, but I'm thinking about getting more paints and brushes.
    I think it would be cool to make a video about painting lower quality minis with high skill level and high quality materials.

  • @danieljvanrensburg
    @danieljvanrensburg 2 года назад +2

    Do you think the glacier one would look good if you were trying to paint frost weapons?

  • @CadianColors
    @CadianColors 2 года назад +1

    Gonna hop in with team Pylar Glacier; I think it'll be really nice for getting bright electric powerswords. (Possibly w Proacryl Turquoise)

  • @grendelprime166
    @grendelprime166 2 года назад +3

    Those army painter contrast paints are really nice for 1/2 the price.

    • @Anjohl
      @Anjohl 2 года назад

      the re-activation pretty much kills them.

  • @tywillis2395
    @tywillis2395 Год назад

    They just need to market Imperial Fist yellow and the like as "I Can't Believe It's Not Ink"

  • @Dezkoi
    @Dezkoi Год назад

    they did have a good yellow, it was called "sunburst yellow" and was discontinued because "reasons" I guess
    mostly moved to reaper and vellejo

  • @guwubs5598
    @guwubs5598 2 года назад

    One of these days I hope you do a give away or a contest for one of those big spider bois cause man! I love the colors you use for them.

  • @victorgonzalez2927
    @victorgonzalez2927 2 года назад +4

    Why is GW so expensive? It seems like they’d hit a broader market if they lowered the price. As a fairly new painter I’ve moved away from them because of price.

    • @Morganistalking
      @Morganistalking 2 года назад +4

      Because they think they'll get away with it. Just paying for the brand most times. The products themselves are technically good but not great in my opinion.

    • @nicholasbuscanera3836
      @nicholasbuscanera3836 2 года назад

      The appeal is that you do not have to mix any of your own colors. You pay a high premium for the convenience of having any color at your disposal. I buy the “base” color pallets and then get a bottle of Vellejo Ivory to mix with those colors to get what I want out of them. Contrast paints are a whole other concept and are unique to GW. (Army painter just released their spin off of contrast paints) they are cheaper but the color range is lacking

    • @victorgonzalez2927
      @victorgonzalez2927 2 года назад +1

      @@nicholasbuscanera3836 the range is lacking for now. I’m sure they want feedback before developing more. Have you used AP speed paints?

    • @Nagi2100
      @Nagi2100 2 года назад +1

      You're asking a question that's gone unanswered for decades...

    • @nicholasbuscanera3836
      @nicholasbuscanera3836 2 года назад +1

      Yes, they function just as well as contrast paints do. I hope they release more colors because they are a cheap alternative

  • @AoSCoach
    @AoSCoach 2 года назад

    Appericate your insights and testing. There is a few i want to grab and you’ve confirmed which ones i’ll start with

  • @coreyburge8663
    @coreyburge8663 2 года назад

    I would love to hear your contrast paints that you use for each color! Possible video?

  • @Dreoni_
    @Dreoni_ 2 года назад +4

    Never heard of the intensity inks from gsw, any other good colors in that lineup?

  • @AnnieAturday
    @AnnieAturday 2 года назад

    I get why you wouldn't see any real use for pylar glacier, but it is absolutely perfect for my Night Lords on glacier bases, its really really low coverage is a huge boon for me. It mixed with gloss varnish over the top is going to look real good

  • @NateArnoldVideos
    @NateArnoldVideos 2 года назад

    I have several frost giants I need to paint, and I could see Plyar Glacier and Briar Queen Chill being very helpful in that. If you won't use them, you could always send them my way! 😉

  • @commonisekaihero4745
    @commonisekaihero4745 2 года назад

    The glacier paint I can see using on any future frost wolf weapons I paint when I can't be bothered mixing my own glaze.

  • @paulbaker5256
    @paulbaker5256 2 года назад

    I take your point about limited application, but as a Nighthaunt collector, Briar Queen Chill is like a gift from Nagash himself…

  • @giantninja9173
    @giantninja9173 2 года назад

    every one of these paints should have 2 swatches on the shelf. one over white and the other over black so you can see the dry color and opacity. but we know that would make things too easy for the average consumer who will now have to buy and try 3 different pots and hope it was what they wanted

  • @shawnoleary6031
    @shawnoleary6031 2 года назад

    What primer did you use? I would think different primers might provide different effects, thus not turning out quite the way you would have hoped.

  • @MirsIbanez85
    @MirsIbanez85 2 года назад

    I need a Squidmar class. I don't know in what form, but I want to learn to paint more quickly and still, a vibrant as the both of you 😍

  • @theKashConnoisseur
    @theKashConnoisseur Год назад

    Citadel - 25 paint pots, $200
    Vallejo - 24 paint pots, $50-$75

  • @popburnsy3207
    @popburnsy3207 2 года назад

    I would lean more towards Bad Moon Yellow over Imperial Fist. I can make a cool tone warmer fairly easily whereas, I would have a harder time making a warmer tone cooler

  • @phizzhead53
    @phizzhead53 Год назад

    2:58 if your painting a slanesh army that color is a must

  • @gazimoff
    @gazimoff 2 года назад

    Thanks very much for the roundup! I’ve been looking to pick up a few of these, and I’m glad to hear that they get your thumbs up!
    Now… about those ‘non-pooling’ shade paints? ;)

  • @billcurran7210
    @billcurran7210 2 года назад

    Always good to run through a new paint line!

  • @Kerrai
    @Kerrai 2 года назад +2

    I feel the slightly more love already!

  • @AsheramK
    @AsheramK 2 года назад

    That striking scorpion screen is likely going to look very well on Necrons. Looking forward to it.

  • @noelsayar3113
    @noelsayar3113 2 года назад

    Congratulations! 🎊
    You're the only youtuber that pronounce correctly Vallejo

  • @LauraDelvecchio
    @LauraDelvecchio 2 года назад

    I WHOLLY agree that citadel paint pots could use more information specifically about the paint contained within. For the price they're at, I expect it should be standard to have an info panel on those pots.

  • @MrNovaStreams
    @MrNovaStreams 2 года назад

    What do you think about the older paints that they "reformulated" ? Can we get some side-by-sides?

  • @Balduviann
    @Balduviann Год назад

    @SquidmarMiniatures you should try the new Vallejo Xpress line up and see how it compares to these

  • @Tanuvein
    @Tanuvein Год назад

    Honestly, Army Painter's Fire Giant Orange speedpaint is one of the nicest oranges I've seen.

  • @hectorstone7
    @hectorstone7 2 месяца назад

    Your best video ive seen so far!

  • @cablesalad3168
    @cablesalad3168 Год назад

    So far, if you're using these through the airbrush anyway, what's the advantage of contrasts over say Liquitex Inks?

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video. Very helpful. Keep up the good work.

  • @nahhfam7678
    @nahhfam7678 2 года назад

    The impression I got with this new line is that nearly all paints sibling paints that make sense to use together.

  • @AngusBeef0
    @AngusBeef0 Год назад

    GW should sell zenithalled prebuilts to market that many different contrast colors. holy

  • @noahhyatt
    @noahhyatt 2 года назад

    Super helpful! I was wondering about the quality of these new paints--now I know!

  • @thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308
    @thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308 2 года назад

    Oh boy, i love making my models look like stylized comic book characters rather than little people. I can’t wait until my washes are just shades instead of “make it look hd” in a bottle.

  • @phizzhead53
    @phizzhead53 Год назад

    1:39 this is a grimdark universe, but i could do a worn yellow saftey lines on a manufactorum

  • @christianwilson5956
    @christianwilson5956 2 года назад

    I've found that the contrast paints are good for doing single coats and facilitate easy speed painting. They provide a good result with very little skill required. But they are not as versatile as a standard paint because they can only be used as a wash. You can also replicate their effect by thinning your regular paints more than normal and applying them like a wash.

  • @DismemberTheAlamo
    @DismemberTheAlamo 2 года назад +6

    What they dont tell you is how m uch this release screws over smaller stores.
    There is no ETA on when you can buy any of the paints or shades ala carte. Meaning if yer low or out of any shades rigth now be prepared to wait.
    You also cant get the new white primer, so even if your customers want to try it out, you cant provide it.
    Sorry, while some of us can dump 3k on the HH release becasue we know it will sell, we cant afford 2500usd on a rack that wont pay for itself for almost a year, much less start returning a profit.

    • @SquidmarMiniatures
      @SquidmarMiniatures  2 года назад +3

      Rough place mate, hope you find a way❤️

    • @DismemberTheAlamo
      @DismemberTheAlamo 2 года назад

      @@SquidmarMiniatures - puts me in a rough place because these are items people will buy day 1 and not need again for a few weeks / months.
      Ntm im in a major city WITH a GW store, so they all know they can get it there, despite the fact that they would support me given the chance. Guess I have a week to figure out wtf im gonna do lol.

  • @martineasterman5170
    @martineasterman5170 2 года назад

    Bless you the glacier paint is specifically for ice effects on a pure white background...which it does superbly. You would have known this if GW actually put that on the pot.

    • @SquidmarMiniatures
      @SquidmarMiniatures  2 года назад +1

      Ïn the video i say it's very limited in use, and would probably fit better as a wash than comparing it to the other paints, and i stand by that:)

    • @martineasterman5170
      @martineasterman5170 2 года назад

      @@SquidmarMiniatures yup that's fair, but I would say it is more of a technical paint and yes limited use
      ..but your main point stands that they need to make it more obvious what each paint and be used for.

  • @NagashLordOfDeath
    @NagashLordOfDeath 2 года назад

    I was going to buy kroxigor scales just for the name...so it's good to hear its a good paint!

  • @Goza80
    @Goza80 2 года назад

    Just a basic transparency guide would be nice. Golden have a simple one on their stuff doesn't have to take up a load of space on the label.

  • @chezratte1357
    @chezratte1357 2 года назад

    i agree, aethermatic blue has pretty limited use. I usually just use it for parts that are made of seethrough plastic. For example the wings of the Wasp (Marvel Crisis Protocol). Not the best solution, but at least it makes it not look like a piece of plastic, without lososing the seethroughness.

  • @sejannus877
    @sejannus877 2 года назад

    “And I’m not sure why we needed it”
    MONEY!

  • @PaintsOnA4Up
    @PaintsOnA4Up 2 года назад

    Great video and I’m really glad to have heard your review on them all. Might go grab a few of these but I agree with you, there are a few that I won’t have a use for. Thanks for the video though! 👏