1964 - Dallas Police Officer J. D. Tippit murder witness, Warren Reynolds
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- Situated at a car lot a block west of the place where Dallas police officer J. D. Tippit was shot, Warren Reynolds observed Tippit's assailant run by. Reynolds did not make a positive identification when interviewed by the FBI. On January 23, 1964, two days after his initial interview with the FBI, he was shot in the head in the basement of the auto dealership. Reynolds survived.
(The assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Dallas, Texas)
Truly extraordinary - that two men were assassinated in Dallas a few miles apart - on Nov 22nd 1963 - within 45 mins of one another - AND BOTH WERE UNCANNILY ALIKE. ( one JFK - the other Tippit)
Also , this same Warren Reynolds was the ONLY WITNESS to the shooting of Officer Tippit who was able to clearly ' SEE ' the killer closeup for many seconds - as he walked alongside him on the other side of the Street . He initially stated it was ' NOT OSWALD ' -
but quickly changed his mind after he was shot in the head at his work - just TWO DAYS LATER .
And we are led to believe that there was NO CONSPIRACY involved here. GIVE ME A BREAK !!!
Sorry to correct you but it was 2 months later he was shot, in January 1964 by a colleague of Jack Ruby. He survived being shot in the head, and then miraculously changed his story that the gunman he saw running away from officer Tippit was in fact Oswald. Conspiracy fact
I deal with these grizzled lone-nut-nuts all the time in these comments sections, and they talk about "proof, proof, proof, proofety proof-proof". I say twenty eyewitness testimonies to the contrary of the "official" story equals one mark of proof. Lol, there are THOUSANDS of such testimonies. And, whooopsy! high percentage suddenly stop breathing.
Kennedy upset Israel- end of
@@markclitheroe900---JFK and his brother Bobby upset the MAFIA, the FBI, the CIA and not forgetting the anti Cuban lobby.
With that amount of seriously dangerous
enemies - you don't need anybody else.
@@jbyeats none of them killed him and none of them had the media control to cover it up.
How was Oswald arrested and brought to the police station for Tippit's murder BEFORE the Police Chief told the officer he was looking for Oswald in connection with JFK's murder?!? The officer told him he could stop looking cause they already had Oswald at the station!!! Oswald was asked by a reporter if he had killed the President and he said he hadn't been charged with that and the first he heard about the accusation was from the reporters!!! Amazing how we don't have any recordings of Oswald being interrogated, isn't it?!?
Correction: Oswald said he hadn't been charged with that YET. He realized by that time he was going to be framed, hence his famous "I'm just a patsy". Each word, even those with only 3 letters have their relevance and significance. I'm still wondering what he meant with his "this is it" statement while being arrested in the theatre. Unless the policemen arresting him didn't understand him correctly.
@@Retroscoop this is it simply meant he knew he had committed the crimes and that the police had found him
Of course, because they would have had evidence against them and then they pretended to take notes on loose leaflets in an interrogation that lasted 12 hours. They don't seem to have done a wise thing. The truth is, it was all perfectly prepared to blame Oswald and save America's corrupt strong powers.
@@vincenzodangelo127 no recording, no official notes, no nothing during a 12 hour interrogation - sounds legit lmao
@@Paul-km8ko Exactly, see what kind of interrogation. Then tell me if there wasn't the conspiracy behind this whole thing.
This guy was pretty damn brave to be stalking a cop-killer who just pumped four rounds into J.D. Tippit.
if he really did.
@@leemoore9933 he said he did
not buying his story that he followed a stone cold killer - my ass he did
@@Paul-km8ko
8/28/2021 I was witness to an armed robbery at an OTB (Off Track Betting) office.
The thief walked in, discharged his weapon to the ceiling and announced a "hold up".
I was tempted to tackle him when he had his back turned to me. He was a little too distant from me and my older brothers were with me, so I felt I had to sideline my inner-hero and had to ALLOW the robbery to take place.
When he had the cashiers fill his bag, he exited.
I FOLLOWED HIM INTO THE PARKING LOT AND FOR ONE BLOCK DOWN THE STREET WHERE HE JUMPED INTO A WAITING CAR.
I don't fear death.
I will not leave this world a pussy.
How about you? Are you OK living the life of a pussy?
So, THERE IT IS!
Though you lack courage, don't assume everyone else does, pussy.
I prefer to be an alive dog rather than a dead lion. I wouldn't have run after him...
Warren Reynolds was born in Dallas on June 22, 1935. After leaving Forest Avenue High School, he found a job at his brother’s company, Reynolds Motor Company.
On November 22, 1963, Reynolds was in the Oak Cliff area when Police Officer JD Tippit died. He could not see the shooting, but he could see the gunman fleeing the scene of the crime. Robert J. Groden later claimed that Reynolds claimed that the man he saw was not Lee Harvey Oswald.
On January 23, 1964, Reynolds himself was the victim of a violent attack. Darrell Garner was arrested, but Betty Mooney MacDonald, who worked for Jack Ruby, gave Garner an alibi. MacDonald was then arrested for fighting with his roommate. Shortly afterwards, MacDonald committed suicide in his police cell.
Despite being shot in the head, Reynolds survived and, after fully recovering, testified to the Warren Commission. Now he changed his mind, and Oswald was identified by the man he saw running from the scene of the crime.
Reynolds also knew Garner. I think their is more to Reynolds than meets the eye.
Reynolds said before his attack he believed Oswald was the shooter but he would hesitate to firmly ID him... which would have suited a conspiracy just fine. His memory hardly "improved" much at all and in any case with several *other* witnesses who were never touched firmly ID'ing Oswald Reynolds was hardly the lynchpin of the case anyway.
You’re spreading lies
@aaronz Where did you get that testimony of Warren Reynolds before he was shot ? It does not appear anywhere that I can find. Only the latter.
Reynolds identification of it being Oswald or not being Oswald - almost cost him his life.
He was a VERY IMPORTANT WITNESS - who walked alongside the ' shooter ' - on the other side of the Street - for at least one minute.
All of the other witnesses saw Oswald for only
a second or two .
HIS TESTIMONY was an ESSENTIAL piece of EVIDENCE . Hence - he either had to DIE -
or else CHANGE his MIND.
He chose the latter - as I would have done .
Reynolds could not I.D. Oswald, until after he himself got shot in the head. And then he saw the light and realized Oswald was the shooter. Amazing how that works...
Obviously scared..after oswald dead no threat
You know full well Reynolds said he thought the man he saw was Oswald but he would be hesitant to positively ID him... which would have suited any conspiracy just fine. Later he agreed the man must have been Oswald, so his memory hardly "improved" much at all, never mind that he was hardly the lynchpin in this case anyway.
@@aaronz7056 He could not identify Oswald as the shooter running down the street. He later agreed it was him after he himself was SHOT IN THE HEAD. You know this. It has been explained to you ad nauseam.
@@davidarbuckle7236 This has been explained to you ad nauseam:
Oswald was ID'd by nearly a dozen witnesses.
Bullets were matched to his gun.
He was caught trying to shoot a second cop minutes later nearby.
He fought police like a complete maniac.
He observed, "Well they say it only takes a minute to die" to police after asking the penalty for cop-killing."
You never make the slightest attempt to offer up any plausible or credible scenario regarding Tippit's murder.
But certainly the best way to keep your conspiracy top secret is by going around and shooting witnesses in the head (and certainly it won't just increase suspicions if Reynolds gets his head blown off by a conspiracy), confident this in itself means every other witnesses will then think to himself, "Gee, I better start lying and assisting the conspiracy if I don't want to get shot myself."
Never mind there is ZERO logic in attacking a cop on a public street just to frame the already fleeing Oswald for it in the first place.
I wonder why they edited out him saying "I'm shot" from the audio at around 1:19 or 1:20 or so?
Another great video from a long list thanks to "HelmerReenberg" :)
I wonder this too.
I think it's just poor audio. If there was a reason it might have been taken off TV for moral reasons. Let's ask it this way: what possible difference does it make?
Maybe what he said was on the TV tape but edited out later.
This is what happened that morning of November 22, 1963 in Dallas and the Zapruder video speaks very clearly. The presidential limousine takes Elm Street and after a few meters the first shot fired by Nicoletti starts who, together with Rosselli, was hidden in the Dal Tex Building. The first bullet misses its target and hits the sidewalk of the triple railroad crossing at the end of the square and a splinter ends up in the face of James Tague, a passerby who was standing there. The second bullet hits Kennedy in the throat, and as you can see in the footage, the president puts his hands around his neck and Governor Connally turns back to understand what happened. The third bullet misses and ends up on the lawn where it is later found by an FBI man and Deputy Buddy Walthers. The fourth bullet hits Connally who emits a grimace of pain as seen in the video and brings his right hand to his stomach because he accuses an immediate pain and then the bullet pierces his right wrist and plants itself in the thigh of his left leg. The fifth bullet hits Kennedy in the back of the head and the sixth bullet, fired by James Files hiding on the grassy knoll half a second after the fifth shot, shoots both Kennedy's blood and head back, and the brain leaking was due to pressure. of the sixth bullet that had left an apple-sized hole behind Kennedy's head, as evidenced by photos of 14 people bringing their hands to the same spot on their heads. I say with certainty that the bullets were 6 because it seems that a shot was fired about every three seconds, that is the time to reload the rifle. Returning to Connally, which is the key to clarifying the mystery well, there is a lot to say. 1) First of all, from the angle in which Oswald would have found himself firing, which was about 45 degrees, only Kennedy would have been hit and no one else, the bullet could not in any way make a deviation and then hit the governor. 2) When Kennedy is shot Connally turns around to see what happens and stays there for about three seconds, the time to reload the shot in the rifle; if the governor had been hit by the magic bullet, at the same time as the president, he would have had the same reaction as Kennedy and would have neither the way nor the strength to look back. 3) The governor Connally when he is wounded is still turned and you see a grimace of pain as I mentioned before him and then turn forward again and collapse on his wife's legs. 4) In the video you can see how Connally bumps his head in front of the glass that separates him from the driver's and assistant's seats. 5) Do you know why Connally was hit? Both because Kennedy threw himself on his wife's right shoulder, because bending over did not hinder the trajectory of the fourth bullet that almost grazed him hitting the governor, and because the shot was fired by Nicoletti from the window of the Dal Tex Building and reached the governor, because Kennedy was leaning towards his wife. So, not only does the first missile reveal where the shot really came from, but also what hit Connally. Indisputable and real evidence, but unfortunately denied by many, including the Warren commission which veiled so much evidence.
You copy n posted this comment before on other video .
@@rocketshipsandrobotsinterg2184what's the problem?
@@rocketshipsandrobotsinterg2184 Yes, what's the problem? Does it detract from his statement if he doesn't type the entire thing AGAIN? When there is a clipboard attachment available on cellphones? Get with the 21st Century, Jethro.
@@kennethlatham3133 I did not understand what you mean, however I am publishing the same post under the various documentaries of the Kennedy case to make the story known to the subscribers.
I believe 85% of what you post here and agree with you on the core points. I also think there were 6 shots. Shot #1 strikes the ground, from the rear misses but the debris strikes James Tague. Shot #2 Strike Kennedy in the throat. It comes from the front. Shot #3 Hits the ground and misses all targets. Shot #4 hits Kennedy in the back Shot #5 hits Connally. Shot #6 comes from the front striking Kennedy in the head. There may be a Shot #7 which was fired immediately after the 6th which struck Connally again.
Eye witness Acquilla Clemons saw something completely different. She saw two men fleeing, neither one Oswald.
Read her actual words and she clearly saw Oswald and another bystander like herself running away from a shooting, that's all
@@aaronz7056 I heard her tell Lane that there were 2 men, neither fit Oswalds description. She was threatened, told to stop talking or they'll be back to visit again. The fake witnesses claiming to see Oswald flee the Tippit scene weren't threatened, none of them. Why threaten a witness unless she can destroy their case in 2 minutes.
@@MrMarco855 Every witness besides her firmly points to Oswald. Of course, in some peoples' world, it's ludicrous to think one witness in a panic-stricken moment might be simply wrong, but it's plainly obvious a bunch of others living in this quiet suburban neighbourhood are lying and helping a conspiracy to assassinate a President and murder a policeman.... I further address the ludicrousness of Oswald being framed for Tippit's death elsewhere under this video.
Stop. Listening. To. Mark. Lane.
Here's my say >> How did Tippit know who he was looking for? Did he have an adequate description of Oswald? It had been less than an hour since JFK was shot and Tippit was in Oak Cliff, quite a distance away. I think Tippit was told by the Power Elite to kill Oswald so he (Oswald) would not be able to speak in his own defense. When that failed, Jack Ruby was sent in as the backup or " cleaner ".
Very likely it happened the way you say it did.
You're just making this shit up as you go along aren't you?
Why is it so difficult to believe that a lone nut was actually acting alone? He was a freak. He thought it would make him famous. When he so that people actually hate him for what he did, he distanced himself from the crimes.
LOL. Exactly WHO was Tippit and Oswald's "Handler", and Exactly WHO "Framed" Oswald? Oops. Lol..
Helmut: Because he could NOT have done it. None of the FBI sharpshooters that tried like 30 times could do it and that was before it was proven in 1979 that there were 4 shots and not just 3. It was not physically possible for any one person to have done it.
Warren Reynolds witnessed someone who looked like Oswald to confuse him and other witnesses that were at the killing of Tippit at that moment or he did not want to say how the gunman looks like after they attempted to kill him, Benavides witnessed a different guy, not Oswald. If it was someone to confuse him then goes in contradiction of witness Acquila Clemons who saw a short heavy guy(Ruby?) and tall guy from her house not far from the assassination. Ruby lived in an apartment near by. CIA planned this very carefully and the idea was to kill Oswald after being caught and shown his face in the newspapers.
@mrc121002 Nothing, everything worked perfectly as CIA planned. Get Tippit´s body to patch JFK holes in wrong locations and get Oswald killed not to testify as patsy who could reveal the plot.
@mrc121002 Oswald knew about the plot, drinking coke on the 2nd floor with tremendous commotion outside don´t make sense. He went straight to his boarding room to get a gun because he realized that someone was going to go after to kill him so he hid in Texas Theather because he worked at TSBD where the shots came or probably CIA officer Atlee Phillips told LHO to hide there till the turmoil pass and where they could use Oswald Double, cuban Antonio Veciana saw Phillips talking to LHO, he got shot in the head but survived.
@mrc121002 Tippit was going to be killed no matter what Oswald did go, a police radio dispatcher ask Tippit to go to that area WC never ask the dispatcher to testify. The killing again was to patch JFK´s body. Many police officers were aware of the plot, remember mrs Roberts seen 2 cops in the car horning for Oswald outside of her property, those guys were set up kill him.
@mrc121002 Oswald already had left to the Texas theater.
@mrc121002 Like you said such a mystery. I had nightmares guessing possible suspects.
The FBI released information that an Informant had written a note saying that Tippit was the shooter of JFK and that Tippit had meet with Ruby and Oswald in the Nightclub Ruby owned a week prior to the assignation and that Tippit was the head of the John Birch Society, I find it very odd that Tippit's Military Service record has been wiped clean and we now he was a paratrooper. Tippit's eldest son has stated his father was acting odd that morning an had told him "Whatever happens today I love you son"
I just heard about Roscoe White, and his wife working for Ruby. Roscoe is seen in the pictures with Oswald in the military in the Time magazine release. White's son claims Ruby wanted Tippett involved. Said that Oswald got nervous two blocks from their destination and jumped out of the car, Roscoe attempts to chase Oswald, and White shot Tippett to make Oswald look guilty I guess.
His son told his father never said that... Too many episodes of ''Mission Impossible'' involved on that day...
That FBI report that was finally declassified in 2017 sure would have caused a stir in 1964, had it been made public.
It's interesting because J.D. Tippit can then be connected with John Birch Society and General Walker.
If we believe the WC, "Oswald" tried to assassinate General Walker too.
Who published the "WANTED FOR TREASON" posters and newspaper ads for JFK in Dallas?
Who would want us to believe JBS had JFK killed? That report says Tippit was on the overpass with a rifle aimed at the motorcade.
The most dishonest guy I've ever known is a guy named WARREN COMMISSION
Years later lbj basically stated the same thing.
@@jamesreagle245 The group he appointed
@@shihyuchu6753 yup - in 1967 when Israel attacked the United States and he as president was not allowed to defend our country is when I think lbj became a Kennedy believer that the threat to the free world was the CIA
@@jamesreagle245 Israel attacked the US? I must have missed that
@@shihyuchu6753 they attacked the USS Liberty during the Seven Days War an unarmed US spy ship. The most technologically advanced spy ship could not send a message out that Israel was attacking her. Israel was able to jsm the radio because someone gave them the code to jam. That someone I believe could only have been the CIA. The hopes were to blame Egypt for the attack and start world war III.
Does this guy ever give a description of the man on the street who he tailed to the service station?
Failed attempt to murder a witness
indeed . reynolds said he could not identify the man he saw running from tippits murder . he stuck to that . then as we can see in the above video someone tried to kill him , he was shot in the head . then he went to the warren commission and said it was oswald . which tells us at the least that reynolds felt that the attempt to kill him was in regards him being a witness and not saying it was oswald . so he rectified that and said it was oswald .
darrell garner was arrested for trying to kill reynolds . betty mooney mcdonald gave garner an alibi . might just be coincidence but she worked for jack ruby . betty was later arrested for an altercation between her and her room mate . she was found dead in the police cell . supposedly from suicide .
@@fobrien1 You still around, lamely trying to "poke holes," thinking that somehow your obsessive & perverted hobby can have an effect on the correctly decided judgement of history? The holes are most likely in your own head should you think that.
With six witnesses who offered immediate, positive identifications of Oswald either shooting Tippit or fleeing the scene, Warren Reynolds was hardly the linchpin of the case against Oswald.
@@fobrien1 The conspiracy theorists have little evidence that Nancy Mooney's death was a murder. Even worse, if there was a conspiracy that led to her murder, it apparently was designed not by the CIA nor the FBI nor the Mafia but by the late Rube Goldberg. Wanting to silence Warren Reynolds - for what reason nobody knows - they sent to kill him not a crack professional hit man but a mentally unstable braggart alcoholic living in the same part of the city. When the killer fell under suspicion, they responded not by killing him but by bringing Nancy Mooney into the picture - with the foreseeable consequence that she had to be killed too. And instead of killing her in her own apartment or in (say) an "apparent mugging attempt" they waited until she got herself arrested. They then put together in two hours a plot to kill her in jail - a plot that had to involve at least a few of her jailers. And they managed to kill her in a way that left no evidence of anything but a hanging suicide.
Why would they do it this way? The answer is, they didn't, because there was no murder, only a suicide by a mentally unstable woman.
Oh, it's an uphill climb for conspiratards to defeat the testimony of 6 eye-witnesses to the Tippit murder (who either saw Oswald in the act or fleeing the crime scene). At best, they can perhaps cast some (unreasonable) doubt on the testimony of one or two. But they certainly can never defeat 'em all.
the bullets that killed Tippit were from a .380 automatic, Oswald had a revolver completely different ammo. Where are the interviews that show witnesses ID Oswald? I see interviews of witnesses that do NOT ID Oswald, a few changed their story after being threatened or shot by the FBI though.
Omg… lol.. All the shells were found to the left of the shooters position and 30-60 feet away!..
Do auto pistols eject shells to the left and 30-60 away?!.. No..
Stop!.. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about..
Benevidez was feet away watching from his truck and it’s him who got on the cars radio seeking help for Tippit. He didn’t identify Oswald as the shooter! Attempts was made on his life and they killed his brother thinking he was him! Oswald didn’t kill Tippit! End of discussion!
@@mizzutigerfan1
The jacket proves you wrong, sorry.. lol.. 3 people saw Oswald in and around that parking lot, with a light colored jacket on.. Then Johnny Brewer sees Oswald moments later without a jacket, and he’s arrested without a jacket..
The jacket is IDed by Marina Oswald as Lee’s jacket, and fibers found on the inside lining matched the shirt Oswald was arrested in..
There’s only one reason why Lee is in that parking lot changing his appearance, brother.. Only one simple reason.. He was a piece of shit cop killer, and you’re bending over backwards to defend a piece of shit cop killer.. Nice!..
More conspiracy BS, so where is the proof, where did you read this??
This whole thing magic bullet and all is a lie....and so is Biden got the most votes ever
Hmm. Why is the beginning of this interview cut off? Maybe because he mentioned that he followed one of the two guys at Tippit's car who then split up.
.......as corroborated by nearby neighbor/witness, Acquilla Clemons.
@@kennethlatham3133 Her words, before Mark Lane twisted them, make it pretty clear she saw one shooter and a bystander trying to get under cover. Hardly matters because many other witnesses firmly ID'd Oswald.
@@aaronz7056 What is your source?
@@kennethlatham3133 Are you kidding me?
@@aaronz7056 Are you kidding ME?
Warren Reynolds later changed his story after being shot in the head & recovered, he would later say it was Oswald. Someone obviously got to him, I read the story once I googled this guys name.
Actually he had previously said he would hesitate to ID the suspect as Oswald but he believed the suspect was Oswald, which would have suited a conspiracy just fine as it was.
Amazing how many witnesses on a quiet street like that.
Yes and it was early afternoon.
@@MrAmbassador11 For a credulous conspiratard, every silly, stupid, irrelevant detail must be cast in a suspicious light and made to seem like it's some kind of evidence for...wait for it...a conspiracy!
@@stddisclaimer8020 BS..!
@@eduardoflores7453 Eduardo "BS" Flores.
@@stddisclaimer8020 Standard bull shit u r.
The bit when he asked him what he did when he kept up with him , he said " evidently he got away " he'd know if he got away or not right so why evidently ? Strange wording . Ambiguous.
The Dallas Police report listed the brass found at the scene as coming from a 38 automatic. It is stamped right on it. Oswald had a 38 revolver. You CANNOT fire rounds for a 38 auto out of a 38 revolver. Oswald did not shoot Officer Tippit.
@Don F: The revolver Oswald used to shoot J.D. Tippit had been converted from a 38 into a 38 special. Cops on the scene, finding hulls laying around, jumped to the conclusion that they must have been fired from an automatic, which automatically ejects spent cartridges. In fact, witnesses saw Oswald emptying hulls from the revolver. You did not post an intelligent comment.
@@stddisclaimer8020 My post was not intelligent??? FIrst of all, what the hell is a hull??? The term is shell casing. And second, it makes no difference whether Oswald's revolver was a .38 or a .38 Special. Whether a .38, or .38 Short Colt or .38 Long Colt or .38 S&W or .38 Special, they are ALL rimmed cartridges. A .38 Auto is not a rimmed cartridge and cannot be fired from a revolver. Anyone with basic knowledge of handguns (the officers at the scene) can readily tell at a glance the difference between a rimmed and an auto shell casing. The spend shell casings were listed on the police report as .38 auto because they were not rimmed casings and 38 auto was stamped on them. Of course... those shell casings have "disappeared", along with tons of other evidence. And, as far as witnesses, those at Tippit's killing all gave different stories, and have changed their stories over the years. Multiple witnesses placed Oswald in the theater moving from seat to seat looking for his handler at the time Tippit was killed. None of those witnesses have changed their statements.
@@donf3877 Yes, your post was quite an unintelligent one. It is unintelligent not to know that the weapon Oswald used to shoot Tippit was previously converted from a .38 to a .38 "Special," thus making the rounds untraceable. This information is 57+ years old, yet you don't know it. To continue your education, a :"hull" in ballistic terms is a shell, the spent cartridge of a fired round.
Early accounts of where Oswald was at what time, being early, were inaccurate; yet you cling to those clumsy estimates so many years later because they suit your fantasy narrative. Two eyewitnesses saw Oswald shoot Tippit, and four more saw him fleeing the crime scene. No one is able to defeat such powerful evidence as that.
@@donf3877 Butch Burroughs was the concession attendant at the Texas Theater on 11/22/1963. He said Oswald entered the theater at about 1:07 pm. He said he knew the time because Oswald entered the theater as the opening credits in the movie was showing. Since Officer JD Tippit was shot some time between 1:13 and 1:20, Oswald could not have been at the seen where Officer Tippit was murdered.
@@MrAmbassador11 So all the witnesses are lying?
The two women that actually saw the murderer or saw the man who had killed Tippett, neither one identified anybody who look like Oswald as the shooter. Mrs. Lane stated it was a stocky man with bushy hair. And mrs. Aquilla said the same thing she said she heard the shots and got to the scene almost immediately and watch them and reloading the firearm. Another band that I just saw a video of earlier today stated that he heard five shots. But Lee Harvey Oswald was picked up with a revolver with two shots still in it. Can you say Patsy?
@44 Hawk: A Mrs. Lane? It was Mr. Mark Lane who mispresented what both Helen Markham and Acquilla Clemons had told him. Markham's actual description was recorded in a phone conversation by Lane himself. Lane initially refused to provide the tape, until he was court ordered. The transcript revealed how he had lied to the Warren Commission (in order get Oswald off the hook for the Tippit murder). The "stocky man with bushy hair" description is the same one Lane put in Clemons' mouth. Clemons eventually came out to say that she said no such thing. Morale: If you need to lie to get a conspiracy, then there is no conspiracy.
@44 Hawk Oswald had a .38 revolver. Tippit was killed with a 38 auto. A revolver round is rimmed, an automatic round is not... they are not interchangable and one cannot be fired from the other. Any police officer could tell one from the other at a glance. The officers at the scene stated the casings were .38 auto. The police report states the casings were .38 auto and were stamped as such. Of course, the casings were "misplaced", so obviously all the officers were mistaken and the casings were from a .38 revolver.
@@donf3877 Again, you cling to early inaccurate information because it tends to fit your alternate fantasy version of the event. The same thing can be said with the Carcano rifle being initially misidentified a s a Mauser. There are conspiracy clowns who 5 decades later still circulate that Mauser rumor. You're likely one of them. This indicates the level of person we're dealing with.
Your last sentence indicates you’re a lying hypocrite!
Patsy
The controversial, formerly banned film, *Executive Action* has a pretty great scene involving this clip. Was actually made into a comical, yet dark manner the way the man would just reply with “No” or “Nope, Sir” as he was being asked about evidence and interogation recordings. Such a good f**king film!! 😂😂😂
This is a strange story. It doesn’t really seem to make sense.
What about it doesn't make sense, sounds like a desperate man that just shot at the President trying to get away and runs into a cop, at that point what has he got to lose, nothing.
@@leemoore9933 wait. he runs into a cop? if he really killed jfk why would he leave his house after making it there safely? at that point he basically had gotten away with killing the president
I don't know when this interview happened, but why didn't the interviewer ask him, point blank, was the man you were following Lee Harvey Oswald or Jack Ruby???!!!
He was leaving something out - or it was cut out.
Afraid.
Because AT THE TIME, Ruby was not even known to be a possible player in this.
What kind of fool runs after a stranger with a gun and follows him behind a building? Another "witness" to the Tippit affair. That must be one of the most "witnessed" shootings of all time. Some pay-per-view specials don't get that many viewers.
+Bigwave2003 lol ;-) . On an out of the way street at the perfect time. Same day of the most unplanned documented well-witnessed assassination of all time. Best witness testimony provided before knowledge any proof existed and indecisively worse after investigation by the highest legal power in the country. Then to be followed by the first live-streamed murder (if you wish to believe). Personally I've always wondered why anyone narrating video of JFK's casket and JFK Jr's sempre fi salute always brings about a comment that it was his birthday as if was inconsequential that it was Caroline's birthday 2 days later. I'm sure she didn't have a party either.
It was in broad daylight and multiple people witnessed Oswald running appearing to eject spent bullet casings from his 0.38 revolver.
@@ethanweeter2732 Why would Oswald be leaving evidence near the crime scene, that could tie him to the Tippet murder? This doesn't make any logical sense. For a guy who allegedly shot the President and then a Cop, to be leaving his spent shell casings where they could be found and linked to him, is utterly ridiculous.
Tippit stopped the local ' on call CIA assassin" , whom was a friend of James Files. That assassin was headed to kill Oswald. it might have been at the theater. Tippit was killed about 5-6 blocks from the theater.
The CIA assassin might have been a wanted man but the fact he was carrying one or two weapons was likely a issue and might have resulted in him being detained or arrested.
The CIA contract killer panicked, killed Tippet and left.
Ruby was ordered to finish the job.
This is what James files says. He kept the mans identity a secret until he died.
You can’t be sued by a deadman
Uncorroborated garbage.
So if someone orders you to go kill a man inside a police station full of cops you will do it? What a nice and docile employee that Ruby...
@@easyabc1404 He clearly did, he was probably promised something and then screwed over, or they simply threatened his family. Don't tell me you think Jack Ruby did it "oUt oF thE gOoDnEsS oF HIs hEArT" or because he was a "patriot". He was a mafioso, through and through, he couldn't care less about JFK.
More interesting is Oswalds housekeeper Earlene Roberts. She testified that when Oswald was in his room after the assassination a police 🚗 pulled up with 2 cops inside who honked the horn twice. Then drive off.
Actually an “All squads” call went out over the DPD radio for all police cars to report to Dealey Plaza for obvious reasons. There was only one squad car patrolling that area. Tippit wasn’t even supposed to be there. It’s always been a mystery as to why he was even in the area at all. TermsofNervous, why are you always hanging around these videos spewing misinformation? Is it your job or something? If so, you’re not good at it. Give up. We’re winning.
@@truthhurts837 Nope, you're not winning. You lost 57 years ago. "Truth Butt Hurts" why are you hanging around here insinuating that J.D. Tippit's presence in the Oak Cliff area is somehow suspicious? FYI: To a clueless conspiratard like yourself, everything is suspicious, and gets cast in a sinister light and made to seem it's evidence of a conspiracy. That's Defective Thought 101.
@@truthhurts837 hey there...i know the name of the jd Tippett killer if you are interested...
He was called “away” from other officers. His nickname at DPD was JFK. What would the odds be that JFK and look alike killed on same day? Did Tippet get shot in the head? Why was it important he be shot in the back of the head? Did Kennedy’s assasination go according to plan or botched? 1 shot 1 kill...
@@marcuslaker5876 Upon scanning the nonsense contained in your "botched" post, the following cries out for repeating: Conspiracy theorists never have real evidence; instead they have anomalies. Anything that seems a bit odd, out of place, coincidental, or all-too-convenient is cast in a sinister light and made to seem as if it is evidence for a conspiracy. It's not. What are the odds you'll ever make an intelligent post?
I am not sure who I saw walking down the street...Bang, they shot me in the head... "I remember exactly who I saw walking down the street. It was DEFINITELY OSWALD." It is amazing how your memory improves when someone shoots you and then gets off because your assailant's alibi is one of Jack Ruby's Strippers.
the problem for the government story is that nobody could not identify Oswald as the man who shot Tippit except for one person, that person being Helen Markham who testified that she spoke with Tippit for 15 minutes after he was shot! As everyone knows Tippit was killed instantly! yet nobody at the scene could recall Helen Marksman being present at the scene of the crime, yet she became the governments ONLY star witness to place Oswald as the shooter. Another major problem with the government thesis is that 4 shells were found at the scene of the crime, 2 shells were Winchester, while the other 2 were Remington shells. Yet when the bullets were pulled from Tippits body 3 were Winchester while only 1 was Remington! the bullets do not add up to the shells found at the scene; either this means their were 2 people involved in the slaying of Tippit, or someone miscalculated when the shells were planted at the scene of the crime. If that wasn't enough, ballestics expert for the FBI Cortlandt Cunningham testifies to the commission that he could not determine that the bullets were fired from Oswald's 38 revolver! Yet after 50 years the government proclaims Oswald was the shooter despite the evidence to the contrary. Another important clue to remember is that Oswald was also exonerated from the nitrates examination by the Dallas police proving he never fired a rifle that day, and as I see it not even a pistol.
Helen was a quack alright.
shayla benavidez Nobody could not identify him or nobody could identify him?
Oswald. 38 Special had a bent firing pin and could not shoot. Also, the shells at the scene were asked by Dallas PD, but after the FBI got them, there were no ID marks. Additionally, the shells found were not bloated on the end as from .38 Special. No way could Oswald have been convicted of this or JFK. Enter Ruby.
Joseph Tobin Well we know that there were two shooters that killed Tippit, one who does resemble Oswald from a distance, Roscoe White and a taller man unidentified. A mob informant said that Tippit was supposed to kill Oswald but he got away from him it that Tippit got scared off from doing it? Also an eyewitness that knew Tippit saw two men shoot Tippit. She's a black lady Aquila Clemons and I believe her more than anyone. This man in this video did get a good look at the shooting but said privately it was not Oswald and that's why they tried to kill him.
Not true, and what the heck would be the point of killing Tippit anyway? Oswald was already being hunted down for Kennedy and if anything went wrong with Tippit's murder they've just confirmed a conspiracy.
The only problem for the 'lone nut' theorists is there is actual proof Oswald couldn't have shot Tippit at 1:15 p.m. like they say. Officer J.D. Tippit was in Methodist Hospital, being pronounced dead at exactly 1:15 p.m. His death certificate can be easily found on a search, with that as the time of death. Therefore, he probably arrived a couple minutes before that. When the Warren Commission gave that time as the time of his shooting, it was only to give LHO time to "walk" to E. Tenth/Patton from his rooming house. It takes time for people to report the shooting, it takes time for an ambulance to come and load a body, and it takes time to go to a Hospital. Most people agree that this information indicates the shooting occurred at 1:00-1:02 p.m., which is actually what many of the witnesses say that heard the shots or the initial reports.
Another problem. At least two witness already have Oswald (likely dropped off by the car that was witnessed to have honked outside his rooming house) in the Texas Theatre by 1:07 p.m. One of these witnesses say that Oswald was changing seats a lot, sitting by different people. Probably just what one would do if they're supposed to meet their contact. After all, it's been shown (McCone-Rowley memo and other sources) that Oswald was a low level CIA operative.
This is all rather moot. Newly released testimony from a recently deceased TSBD employee, Mrs. GERALDINE REID [not a Mrs. Robert (Delores) Reid as some 'lone nutters' will try to say to block this bombshell] reveals she was giving Lee Harvey Oswald change for a dollar at the very moment the shots in Dealey were fired. They both heard them, not knowing then they were gunshots, and looked at each other in response. Moments later, Officer Baker sees Oswald drinking the Coke he was preparing to purchase with the change. Here we have a witness that pulverizes any chance for the government's lone-nut cover story. She was threatened for years to stay quiet. She thumbed her nose at them by allowing her story to be released, being interviewed before her passing. So all the acoustic evidence, all the doctors at Parkland et al, and all the grassy knoll witnesses not called were correct all along, as we have well known.
Give me more about the deceased TSBD employee. Where did you get this information source? Where can I see that interview?
Phil Jansen Phenomenal tap dancing. But the "problem" is yours, not ours. Your problem is you don't have a suspect for the JFK assassination, or a murder weapon for both JFK, or Officer Tippit. All the evidence in the JFK assassination belongs to Lee Harvey Oswald. Checkmate.
+radar0412 no I fact that is not correct. The fatal shot was from the front. That's what film and testimony of every doctor confirms. Can't make a frontal shot from the lunch room in the book depository. That's checkmate mate!
+Phil Jansen But since Oswald had heavy residue of barium and antimony on his cheek, he must have fired a rifle that day! Oh wait, he didn't... I wonder if they checked him for Dr Pepper residue?
Oh, and by the way, I doubt Oswald drank a "Coke," but instead got a "coke" that happened to be a "Dr Pepper." In Texas at the time, it was common for "coke" to mean "soft drink." So don't capitalize your coke. There was a "coke machine" that very well may have dispensed Pepsi, and most certainly, DP.
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He tested negative for barium and antimony on his face, indicating he did NOT fire a weapon. He handled printed books and other materials in his work that would account for the residue on his hands. This is one of the more exculpatory pieces of evidence, benefiting Oswald. Thanks for bringing it up!
Y did the police 🚔 officer say to his son wat ever happens today remember I love you .
I wonder if Tippet was working with Oswald as an informant? I had never thought this till today. That would explain his actions prior to getting shot. Oswald was an intelligence agent reporting to the FBI on the side. Was seen with Tippet in the prior week.
Cia asset.
Correct.
Nah, Tippet noticed that Oswald matched the description of the jfk shooter, he pulled over alongside him to investigate and as soon as he got out of his car, Oswald shot him dead. Then he emptied out his shell's and muttered "poor damn cop", there was an eyewitness who heard him say that. It doesn't sound like they knew each other.
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr none of the witnesses said the shooter looked like Oswald.
@@Boomhower89 Wrong, there were about six eyewitnesses to the Tippet shooting and 3 or 4 of them picked LHO out of a police lineup. LHO killing Tippet is an open and shut case, as is his killing of JFK, since he was alone on the 6th floor of the SBD building.
Right there ppl should know it was more then one person in that murder n yet ppl were afraid to say it
How come he commit such a crime and hang around town😳
Cause he couldn't sprout wings and fly away.
Because he had no idea he was about to be essentially framed.
Someone wanted to eliminate Reynolds as a witness to Tippets death. This points to conspiracy.
There was a reason Tippit was killed. He was part of a bigger plot and had to be silenced.
Agreed....
or he was to kill Oswald but something went wrong and it was reversed on him...maybe he got cold feet and didn't follow through and thus as you say, had to be silenced...
@@alpha-omega2362 I wish I had your courage, bravely accusing a decorated police officer who gave his life in the cause of his duty as being an assassin and traitor himself with zero evidence, nobly not giving a damn how much pain your despicable and irresponsible words might cause his family.
@@aaronz7056 This theory has been around for decades and I don't believe I have heard any response from his family/ There is a lot more to this than we have been told...You should research this a bit. Look into the movements of Tippit shortly before this... he made some very strange call(s) from a pay phone with a frantic look on his face...he wasn't in his assigned location...he knew Jack Ruby (well, most of the Dallas cops did .) sorry if I hurt your feelings but history and the truth is to important to ignore things like this.
@@alpha-omega2362 Your "theory' is a pile of B.S., don't insult peoples' intelligence with this rubbish.
probably saw one of the two or three people who shot tippit,witnesses said they saw three people others two.never will know how many people did the shooting.
One person shot Tippett.
@@randyharris3175 who shot Tippett then?
I know the name of the real killer of Tippett.
It Wasnt oswald or ruby.
@@kryoboy36 Of course it was Oswald.
Makes sense because Ruby Shot Oswald with a .38 special. Tippet was shot with a .38 special.
The cases found was from a 38 auto...not a rim case if 38 for revolver!
@@bryanrmcnair01 Thanx for the clarity
@@bryanrmcnair01 i used to think that but not so.....
@@wizardglick1
Well, anyone could have placed the wallet there.
Another accomplice perhaps.
However, everything was and still IS strange, weird, incomprehensible, in connection with the MURDERS.
A very elaborate system of agents was at work, for a long time, obviously.
The very weak, inefficient, leaky, heavily infiltrated CIA alone, could NOT have organised this kind of clandestine, high pressure, constantly controlled, silent and completely SECRET operation.
@@benmmbk765 IDK, the more books I read about organized crime back in the day, seems like CIA is not just CIA but connected to multiple covert entities...
He looked in the cars and under the cars but alas! There was no jacket which the DPD claims was stuffed underneath!
And how did Tibbet know it was him🤔
He didn't, but he was suspicious of this guy who was a good enough match for the APB out on the Kennedy suspect.
And the man he saw was NOT Oswald, just like EVERY witness to the Tippit murder.
Wrong
11 of 14 witnesses said it was Oswald, and none of them said it wasn’t Oswald..
More lies from the loons..
@@jacobjones5269 Including several who identified him in a police lineup not long after he was caught.
How do you explain Oswald's own jacket found just blocks from the Tippett slaying? How do you explain the fact that the jacket his own landlady saw him put on as he left the boarding house was not on him when he was arrested? How do you explain the fact LHO was found ducking into a shoe store several blocks away by an employee there? How do you explain LHO was seen ducking into a theater less than a mile from where he killed tippit? How do you explain LHO trying to literally kill another cop in front of many witnesses before they could subdue him. How do you explain the fact LHO'S actual wallet was found at the tippit murder scene? How do you explain LHO violently going for his gun when arrested and shouting " This it it!" ? How do you explain the fact that witnesses saw LHO with tippit in days prior to the jfk hit? Look , you can argue with a straight face that LHO did not kill jfk or that he did so , You can even argue that maybe LHO acted in self defense because he reasonably believed Tippit was part of the hit and was going to kill him if not just arrest him.....but don't be delusional or in self denial by asserting LHO was not there at the tippit murder scene , and don't even deny that LHO did not kill Tippett because only a fool would make such a merit- less argument in the face of overwhelming evidence that LHO did in fact that kill officer J.D.Tippett. He did so.
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This statment alone can prove Oswald can not reach the theater at the time The Waren Omission set he did. Those lonenutters defenders all are crap.
Paranoia. Of course it was Oswald who shot Tippit and went into the theater.
@@aaronz7056 Don't worry about Aaron Z. He is part of the cover up team
He sure did recover from his head injury quickly
One very messed up ending day for America in history.
does anyone know what ever happened to the little black kid who said he saw a man fire at kennedy out of the school depository ?/ just wonder if he is still alive and remembers the whole thing...seems to me that he would be the most important witness of any
It was a made up detail by the conspirators.
his testimony kept changing from statement to statement, his WRC testimony basically stated he had no idea what color the shooter was never got a good look at him and heard 4 shots.
There has never been any proof Oswald shot anyone , only thing Oswald was guilty of was carrying curtain rods because the blinding sun came through his boarding house window and still does today without something to hang over window
@Mike Humphrey: Curtain rods was the ready explanation for anyone inquiring about the rifle package Oswald carried that day into the TSBD. Something blinded you as you made your full-of-crap comment.
There were no curtain rods found anywhere ...not in the tsbd , not at his boarding house , nada. He lied.
Why wrap up curtain rods into a paper bundle? Why make a special trip to the Paine house for them? The broken-down Carcano rifle was in that bundle.
@@stddisclaimer8020 How many witnesses see him with the bundle? If there's a conspiracy, then perhaps the idea that he carried anything (bundle or not) was what was fabricated. Also, Std, what do you say about the apparent fact that JFK was shot from the front too. My (evolving) sense of things is that at least Oswald did not act alone.
@@christianc559 There is no evidence whatsoever, be it ballistic, photographic or medical, which supports the notion of a shot from the front. What you think of as an "apparent fact" is but a product of your paranoid & hallucinatory state after binge-reading hogwash conspiracy books.
I firmly believe that Tippet is currently buried in Arlington cemetery.
You might be right.
The guy in the video was a partner in a car lot. Police caught a suspect who'd had a dispute with him over a car
If a person can shoot a suspect in a downtown garage during a prisoner transfer, with cameras rolling, then anything and anyone can be killed and the truth can be manipulated. The "eyewitnesses" testimony may be lies, or not. That day has more questions than answers. Cops out of their districts. Dallas Police Department consorting with criminals. Or maybe dressed as Cops. A lot of witnesses dying mysteriously. Pictures and videos altered at the JFK shooting. Why wasn't there TV broadcasts of the motorcade in downtown Dallas? But there was at a prisoner transfer. Bizarre events. I don't care if it was 1963. I was alive and watched plenty of Presidential events on TV. They ( JFK / Jackie ) were in Ft. Worth and there was TV coverage. San Antonio? But not Dallas. Especially around Dealey Plaza. Plenty of room for Cameras. They didn't count on A. Zapruder. It was a Turkey Shoot and they ALL knew it.
Paranoid rubbish.
@@aaronz7056 paranoid? Why would I be paranoid? That took place when I was 9. I am AWARE . You must be either ignorant or you believe everything that is fed to you as truth. Believe what you want. Keep your chimney clean for Santa Claus , he has a far bigger list this year.
@@idfy2599 Your words are a textbook example of paranoia. You're even implying the local news was in on it. Oh, and what "witnesses" died "mysteriously?"
@@aaronz7056 So you should go into practice with all your expertise in that field. Put your online degree on the wall in a frame. Call yourself Dr. Z's Diagnosis Center for Paranoia. Kind of catchy , don't you think. Read a book maybe sometime. Something besides a comic book. Oh excuse me, a graphic novel. Have a great Day.
@@idfy2599 So you can't answer my question then?
shot in the head yet got to run outside to try to catch the person who shot him in the head wow superman here for sure? what was he shot with a air rifle?
James Files Sutton has the most plausible explanation to all of this that I've heard. Roger Craig, Acquilla Clemons support James' rendition. According to James, an unnamed person was supposed to take LHO out, but Tippits rolled up ($hithouse luck?) and the had to take Tippits out. This particular guy was shot in the head 2 days after the FBI came to interview him. They tried 4 or 5 times to whack Roger Craig and finally succeeded. Acquilla Clemons vanished as well.
officer j.d tippet is the key to the whole thing. why was he murdered?
@TermsofService Tippit was shot to have his body used to patch the body of JFK and make believe the shots came from TSBD. Tippit nickname was Jack because he resemble JFK.
@Jimi Bmore Many never heard of TMWKK The Men Who Kill Kennedy 9 parts videos. If you never seen these videos please go to Part 7 - The Smoking Guns ruclips.net/video/mNchhZBWhPM/видео.html start at 24:30 Dr. Gary Aguilar Expert then at 26:30 start talking about John Liggit, the mortician, where his family said how suspicious he was during the assassination. TermsofService have no clue what was going on.
Richard Helms - in charge of covert operation at CIA during JFK assassination was the main man for the plot, then 1964 he was the CIA assistant to the Warren Commission. In 1966 Lyndon Johnson named him the Director of CIA. Helms was a very important man but little is mentioned or questioned about this man, the public start losing track of key facts, by the time they release all classified information, most will be all dead.
That is why is called "Central of Intelligence Agency".
@TermsofService No words about John Liggit or Richard Helms, are you going to defend them?
You´re a typical hypocrite who knows how to dodge real well. Now for what purpose ? Are you one of the conspirators ?
@TermsofService You told Mc Iness in this column that Tippit was murdered because he had the nerve to stop and question a suspicious man who had just shot the president, why LHO would shoot Tippit ? It was plotted by CIA with a double Oswald at the theater to confuse people.
What proof do you have that he shot the president, and why was he suspicious ? Everybody knows that LHO was a CIA sub-agent and part of the plot but he did not know he was going to be used and framed as a patsy. Third and Fourth shot last 1.6 sec. more than one shooter. He was on the 2nd floor at TSBD. You hate these facts because you have no way to debunk them.
Little hard to believe for me. That this guy would follow someone in this manner who they just witnessed murder a Police man.
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Little hard to believe someone can be shot in the temple by a riffle at point blank range and not even have a wound mark. Magic abounds in Texas '63.
@@felicitymc8200 Yeah, black magic and mysteries within mysteries. If the truth is out there, then it's way beyond the horizon. Nobody's going to catch up to it, ever.
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Did he see Oswald?
Wait so this guy witnessed a man kill a cop and decides to follow the guy knowing he has a gun cmon how stupid could 1 be
Those that try to suggest that 3-4 persons ID Oswald as Tippit's killer are at best exagerating. There where only 2 persons that swore to the WC that they saw the killing not the fleeing. Domingo Benivedes and Helen Markham. But of course, Ms Markham had the most inconsistant story so the govt chose to use her.
Marham made the same 1st description of the assassin that another woman made. Before she "changed" her mind - several times. The description was ruby complexion (not Oswald) short bushy hair (not Oswald) kind of chunky (not Oswald). Who does that fit? Look again at the Z film. As the limo emerges from behind the sigh, you see 2 guys standing together on the lawn. The ruby complexion short bushy hair chunky guy in the white clothes and black attached bullet proof vest (pre-Kevlor) is David Sanchez Morales.
David Sanchez Morales- ZR/RIFLE - CIA assassin chief. Involved in PBSUCCESS, the CIA's 1954 overthrow of the Guatemalan government, and rose to become Chief of Operations at the CIA's large JMWAVE facility in Miami. Involved in other covert operations of the CIA, plots to assassinate Fidel Castro, training intelligence teams supporting the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba, the CIA's secret war in Laos and its controversial Operation Phoenix in Vietnam, and the hunting down of Che Guevara in Bolivia. Film footage showed that David Morales, George Joannides, and Gordon Campbell (the other guy on the lawn) were present at the Ambassador Hotel when Robert Kennedy was murdered. David did many dirty jobs to shut people up, wherever in the world the CIA operated. Shot women, children, innocent men, cops, people who knew too much, etc. According to his friend, Ruben Carbajal, in the spring of 1973, Morales talked about his involvement with the Bay of Pigs and said Kennedy had been responsible for his men he recruited and trained get wiped out. He added: "Well, we took care of that SOB, didn't we?
Why kill Tippit? Needed his body to help the story lies of a shot in the head from rear to front. Tippit's DPD friends nicknamed him Kennedy & Jack. The next time you see the shot head of "JFK" on the morgue table, you are looking at Tippit. Search "JFK Tippit". Look for pictures. Compare them side by side. Then you get it. Tippit is the assassination's sacrificial lamb. You give honor to sacrificial lambs. Tippit is the "JFK" buried under that flaming torch in Arlington Cemetery.
jfkvan1963 they shoot Benavides"s brother and then he was ready to ID Oswald.
@@eduardoflores7661 His brother was shot over a year *after* his testimony, a bystander in a bar brawl. The guy who killed him did a long stretch for manslaughter.
Not true.
Back in the 90s on a northcalifornia unibersity they made a test ,they ha 5 people waiting for the test but the test was in the waiting room ,after 30 minutes they asked each person (one at the time)what color was the waiting room nobody got the right answers ,some sey gray ,white ,darker or lighter colors but not one remember the walls were light green,they concluded that people don't pay attention unless is somthing important to them .
Joe Guzman Let someone walk in and shoot somebody and see what they remember. Total bullshit! There's no reason for them to remember the color of the damn wall Nothing fact just ask people that we're old enough where they were when kennedy got shot and they'll tell you every detail even the color of cloths they were wearing. The mind operates different in traumatic events.
Your right, but I only refer to the 6 that voluntarily went to the police lineup and ID'd Oswald. That is more ironclad....but of course these conspiracy theorists will deny ANYTHING that they find problematic.
Wonder Warren he never gave initial description with reporter. Normally that's what they'd ask. Second time after Reynolds is shot then he's asked about assassin by reporter
Helen Markham said the shooter had a 'ruddy' complexion; that fact ALONE tells me the person she saw was NOT Oswald. She may have altered her testimony later to appease the "thugs" who may have come to talk with her later.
Paranoid garbage.
Tippit had to die as he “knew” personally both “Oswalds”.
Needless to say, that's completely screwy.
@@aaronz7056 Are you unaware that there was another “Lee” and also that he knew Roscoe White the other Police Officer who shot Kennedy from behind the Knoll.
@@colinratford416 Are you aware this is paranoid, ridiculous and uncorroborated rubbish?
@@aaronz7056 Is it really? Perhaps you apart from having a disjointed mind of opinion would like to prove me wrong?
@@colinratford416 Hard to "disprove" total fantasies, isn't it? "Both Oswalds..." lol
“and then I went back to work.” He would’ve been yanked down to the station. But then ....
I think some people enjoy arguing and taking an illogical contrary position. A lot of things are glaringly obvious. Mark Lane and Mrs. Clemons seem like reasonable people who had no need to make up stories. There are too many things that don't add up in this case - too many "coincidences" for example.
The proof that LHO killed JDT is the fact LHO dropped his wallet at the scene....What a better way to prove he was there....
Yeah, funny how he had a wallet on him at the police station. Maybe he had two wallets and dropped one at 10th and Patton to make sure he got caught, huh?
@@squatch545 sure, most men carry 2 wallets and always drop on at a crime scene....
@@squatch545 Source?
@@squatch545 Right. Not only did he leave his wallet at the scene, but according to some folks on here, he also left his spent casings there as well. A wallet that could identify him, and shell casings that could be linked to his gun. What a lucky break for the Police!
Never heard of planting evidence huh?
Nope NO proof Oswald did anything
Except for a mountain of evidence.
So the hitman had a rifle and shot him from
a distance of "hardly one foot" of his back in the right upper jaw and the bullet left the left lower side of his jaw. (As he testified in another interview) This implies a shooting angle of at least 35 to 40 degrees. How tall was the hitman?
No one ever mentioned Lee going to his boarding house that morning to hang his curtains he told Buell he was going to rush up the street hang the curtains and rush back which Lee did Buell never mention s that , because Buell wants attention he is not defending Lee he is not being dishonest he is simply not telling the whole story
Buell never did tell the whole story....
It was actually Ruth that asked Oswald to drop the rods off at the Carousel Club for that night's interior decoration show. Buell was running late and refused to go out of his way. So Oz figured he had the time to go to his room to get some hooks. On his way to Ruby's apartment, to get a lift to the Carousel, a disturbance occurred at 10st and Patton. So he changed his plans and decided to catch a flick instead.
@Mike Humphrey: One thing is for sure though: After he shot JFK & Tippit, it was curtains for Oswald, whose mother should not have spared the rod and spoiled the child.
Oswald never did shoot anyone at that time criminals were not like criminals are today , no cell phones , cheap thugs with lengthy history of petty crime on foot practically in plain site killed the President. There was no down to the second plan it just happened because there was no one to stop them Texas and especially Dallas at the time was not like anywhere else similar to entering and driving through a Foreign country would be and the thugs and the law ruled and pulled it off because the thugs and the law in the south had been been running everything for many years , it was just another day
@@mikehumphrey4048 There is no factual basis for saying stupid and provocative things like "Oswald never did shoot anyone at that time..." All the evidence contradicts what you write. Then you begin adding fictional elements, making up your own cartoon version of the event. You can safely be ignored.
Gary Marlow killed jd Tippett...james files confirmed this in a 1994 interview
correct.
@@maxsmith695 cheers for the backup.rare to find others that know the story 👍🍻
@@kryoboy36 - Files last interview gave tons of detail. Amazing how honest he is. posters here trying to confuse the facts and mislead. Tippet was unlucky, sadly.
@@maxsmith695 files is still putting out videos.
Search David Armstrong James files on youtube👍
For me this is how the Kennedy assassination went down.
James files WAS telling the truth😳
@@kryoboy36 Agree. Files does not try to pretend he knows more than he does. He readily acknowledges there may have been other teams in the plaza, but he knows nothing about that.
My research is that 11 total shots were fired. Four shots hit JFK. One hit the Gov. One hit the front windshield frame of the limo. And the other 5 shots were misses that hit the grass, the street, the curb, the overpass and the street sign. One civilian on the overpass was injured from shattered concrete.
I have read there were 4 active or primary shooters and 4 backup shooters. That sounds logical. Files said the objective was a head shot, and I assume they needed to make that happen before the triple underpass. Maybe that is why the limo slowed from 22 mph to either 11 or 9 MPH. I have never seen any explanation of why they took place.
Files has made the story as complete as it will ever be. The details fit together and lots have tried to discredit him, but I am not sure they have.
It is possible there is some fabrication of his past with the military, but that is not relevant to JFK.
The JFK story highlights how impossible it is to carry out a major crime and escape getting caught.
Getting caught is different than getting prosecuted. From my research, the Gov, be it the FBI or DHS or others, are not very good at covering up big incidents. OK City bombing was clearly a gov operation, WACO was outright murder by the FBI and Delta Forces on the 76 person community inside the compound. 9/11 was more sophisticated , but still created too many clues to hide.
Boston marathon was a pathetically botched false flag. Same for Sandy Hook. Same for the Pulse Nightclub shooting in Orlando.
The most glaring proof the last 2 are fake, was the total lack of any MCI protocol being followed despite the fact there was a large police presence at both.
Sandy Hook was over the top pathetic. The school had been empty for over 2 years.
THE MYSTERY OF THE TWO PISTOLS:
The Tippit slaying was done with a pistol. It was found on the ground near his police car. About the same time, Lee Harvey Oswald is found in a theatre....with a pistol. How could there be two pistols? Could the "currtain rods" be a wrapped up pistol? And what happened to the curtain rods after the shooting? Why would Oswald bring some curtain rods to the Library? I believe Oswald was given an assignment to "go to the theatre" by the FBI.
Beliefs are not evidence. The bullets from Tippit's body were matched to Oswald's revovler.
@@aaronz7056 They could not be matched. The pistol had a machined barrel that defied grooves being imprinted in to the bullets. Also, the bullets were of different makes.
Also, Oswald was in the theater at 1:05 pm whereas Tippitt was shot about 1:15 pm to 1:30 pm.
Oswald was not”chunky” as the witness described the shooter.
@@timberrr1126 Not true, not true, not true, and not true. Oswald was firmly ID'd by witnesses, he even exchanged words with one of them.
Are we saying it was just an incredible co-incidence some nut gunned down a cop in broad daylight on a public street not far from the assassination and very soon after and some conspiracy was so on the ball they were infiltrated all through Oak Cliff to take advantage of this and frame Oswald for it?
Or are we saying a conspiracy deliberately killed a cop in order to frame Oswald for it, which would be insane since it could so easily go wrong and just end up confirming a conspiracy?
Has shoe store clerk Johnny Brewer been under coercion to lie about seeing and ID'ing Oswald for nearly 60 years?
How exactly did this conspiracy know it could safely approach and securely recruit the ballistics boys on the Dallas P.D., and the FBI, and every cop answering the call to the theater, and persuade them all to obey illegal orders, perjure themselves, falsify evidence, coerce witnesses to lie, frame an innocent man, make themselves accessories to murder, assist in the killing of a decorated brother officer with a wife and three children, and all just go back to being plodding career cops on the force forever afterward like nothing happened...?
@@aaronz7056 All you have is an imagination
@@timberrr1126 So you can't answer my questions then?
This witness was shot in the head ???? What in the fuck
He said it was not Lee, some tryed to shut him up
He didn't say that at all:
"REYNOLDS was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD,
at which he advised he is of the opinion OSWALD is the person
he had followed on the afternoon of November 22, 1963.
FBI report, Jan 1964
@@dab.yeah, a shot to the head was all he needed to jog his memory
To the conspiracy kooks: if Oswald was not guilty of Tippit's murder, he has to have been framed. The sinister villains who decide to frame him would have to be absolutely certain, in advance, of the following things:
(A) That they can find an imposter shooter who looks enough like Oswald to fool witnesses
(B) That they need to have this guy standing around 10th and Patton
(C) That innocent patsy Oswald, a known political obsessive, no less, will be insane enough to walk off his job without telling anyone immediately after the President is shot just outside the building, knowing it's already a crime scene and after one cop has already confronted him, and leave the area
(D) That he will be ID'd by several witnesses along the route
(E) That he will say nothing to the cab driver when he asks him what all the commotion in the streets is about
(F) That he will go directly to his rooming house where he will say nothing to his landlady when she tells him the stunning news of the assassination
(G) That he will pop in there just long enough to pick up his handgun and immediately leave again
(H) That he will still have the same gun on him when he is arrested
(I) That Oswald will decide at the last minute to put on a jacket, just as the imposter is wearing one
(J) That Oswald will be at his rooming house and at the theater at the correct times for him to be plausibly blamed for shooting Tippit at 10th and Patton and fleeing to the theater
(K) That there will be a cop driving at 10th and Patton at exactly the right time
(L) That Tippit won't simply get lucky, outdraw the imposter and capture or kill him
(M) That nobody ever sees the imposter escaping Oak Cliff, or, indeed, ever again
(N) That nobody ever sees Oswald anywhere other than at 10th and Patton when Tippit is shot
(O) That either Oswald will help frame himself by trying to shoot Officer MacDonald in the theater and fight like a demon during his arrest, or that every cop in the theater can be relied on to forever lie about what really happened
(P) That no witness in the theater ever disputes the police account of Oswald's actions
(Q) That a large number of plodding career cops on the Dallas P.D., far, far away from Washington D.C., can be safely approached, without fear of exposure and arrest in doing so, and successfully recruited to happily risk their own lives and careers by falsifying ballistics evidence, terrorizing witnesses, etc., as they happily become accessories to the murder of a respected and decorated brother police officer with a wife and three children, to absolutely no gain to themselves whatsoever.
(R) That not one of these cops will ever sing like a canary or be exposed by other investigators for the next 58 years
(S) That every witness in this quiet suburb can be counted on to lie about what really happened for the rest of their lives, so much so they never spill the beans to family or friends, come forward after several decades pass, or leave behind any documentation regarding the truth after they eventually pass away
(T) That they really want to put themselves in a position where they will have to spend decades to come vigilantly watching and pressuring all of these witnesses
(U) That Oswald will not spill the beans about what he knows about any conspiracy or act like anything other than a cat that swallowed the canary when these same cops obligingly let him appear that same night on a live televised press conference where he could have said absolutely anything to an audience of millions
(V) That it is worth going to all of this complex trouble, and taking all these new risks, committing another murder, dragging in more witnesses and more evidence that has to be dealt with, requiring new co-conspirators and more cover-ups, when the police are already hunting down Oswald for shooting Kennedy anyway
(W) That no unexpected witnesses will ever turn up who can blow the whole plot
(X) That there is any point in going to all the complex trouble of framing anybody for Kennedy's assassination in the first place when the "real shooters" clearly got away scot-free anyway
(Y) That they can get Oswald's gun off him after he picks it up at his rooming house, give it to the imposter to shoot Tippit with, and return it to Oswald by the time he is found in the theater.
There are lots of compelling conspiracies that are consistent with LHO shooting Tippet.
@@christianc559 ???
@@aaronz7056 i.e. any wherein Oswald was part of a broader plot.
@@christianc559 There is no evidence he was part of any broader plot.
@@aaronz7056 Then you don't know what evidence is. He was surrounded by people with connections to the CIA. This is well known, do your research. You can dismiss that evidence as merely the CIA keeping tabs on a former defector, but if you're not aware of this, then you shouldn't be making comments as if you know what you're talking about. Furthermore, The Warren commission was designed to, at least, weed out ANY connection to a broader Communist conspiracy, to avert nuclear war. Here the evidence is not merely the cavalcade of omissions and misstatements in the report--but in the explicit words of LBJ in released phone conversations!
Look, I appreciate debate as much as the next guy, but it bothers me you guys keep regurgitating the same old debunked nonsense..
Here's the litmus test.. Why did Oswald discard his jacket?.. And it was his jacket, as i said it was IDed by Marina Oswald, as Lee's jacket, and fibers on the inside of the jacket matched Oswald's brown and orange shirt.. So, why would he do that?..
Only 1 reason.. To change his appearance.. And there's only 1 reason why he would need to do that..
Yes, because he was framed.
@@MrMarco855
Sorry, but you can’t argue the jacket was a plant, cause nobody knew Tippit was gonna be killed.. Certainly nobody knew what escape route the killer would take.. And the jacket was taken possession of by the police from the location it was tossed, and later verified to the WC as the same jacket..
So, it wasn’t switched in police custody, and it’s impossible it was planted or switched before that..
Sorry, but he is guilty of killing a police officer.. No doubt..
@@MrMarco855 ... and they knew there would be a cop driving at 10th and Patton at exactly the right moment for an Oswald imposter hanging around in Oak Cliff who knows Oswald has come to the neighbourhood after the assassination to shoot the officer how, exactly?
@@aaronz7056 Far less difficult to do that then to put the patsy in perfect position to get bent over by the warden commission.
@@MrMarco855 Since you say that but didn't actually answer my question, I look forward to you explaining how the people framing him knew:
- where Oswald's weapons were kept
- they could rely on his family and friends *not* to fight tooth and nail to clear his name
- Oswald would show up at the Paine house Nov 21 so they can pretend he smuggled the rifle
- no bullets or fragments would be found that would not match to his weapons
- Oswald would not simply stand out in the street during the parade
- Oswald would immediately flee the TSBD and go specifically to Oak Cliff
- Oswald would obtain his revolver and still have it on him when arrested
- a cop would be driving at 10th and Patton when he was
- an Oswald imposter needed to be hanging around in Oak Cliff
- the imposter would need to be wearing a jacket just as Oswald put one on at the last minute
- nobody would ever see the imposter before the shooting or ever again
- nobody would ever see Oswald anywhere but at the shooting scene at that time
- the cop wouldn't simply outdraw and capture the imposter
- Oswald would obligingly help frame himself by trying to shoot a second cop minutes later with the same gun
- every witness could be counted on to lie about what they saw as long as they live
- every cop who answered the call to the theater could be counted on to lie about what happened, help frame an innocent man for the chair, and assist in the successful escape of the real killer of a brother police officer with a wife and three children...
SO WHICH SHOOTER DOES HE FOLLOW...THE SHOOTER OR THE GUN PASSER....WHY DOESNT HE DISCRIBE THE MAN......THIS STATEMENT MAKES NO SENCE...DISINFORMATION...
ELISKA wison The "gun passer"? Is that like "The kite runner"?
I sure it's just a coincidence that Oswald brought curtain rods to work the day the president was going to be driving by where he worked. Who brings curtain rods to work?
well he got a ride to work from Ruth Payne's house, so he didn't have time to drop them off at his rooming house. he wasn't getting a ride to his rooming house from the same person, so he had to bring them into the building..... but anyway, obviously they weren't curtain rods.,, but like everything else in this matter there are many discrepancies in what they say was the paper bag he was carrying the rifle in...like they found no oil on it which would have come from the gun and also it really wasn't big enough to carry the rifle, even if it was broken down...I don';t think they found his finger prints on it either.....
@@alpha-omega2362 Oswald showed up unexpected and unannounced at the Paine house in mid-week, all for the first time, Nov.21. Next morning he suddenly possessed a package containing "curtain rods" nobody ever saw while his rifle disappeared from the Paines' garage and teleported itself to the same destination Oswald was going to. Of course he smuggled the rifle.
@@aaronz7056 Yes! But i told you it was on purpose to be discovered. Then Oswald has left the building like Elvis to put suspicion on him. Still on purpose... My story is longer than that but anyway, you never listen...
"I sure". Good grammar! I'll believe everything you say now!
Who brings a rifle to work and let's everyone know.
Same old shit from a conspiracy believer.. Take one aspect of a person's testimony, and use it to disprove, or deny a fact supported by much more evidence than just that statement..
Once again, 6 individual pieces of physical evidence tie Oswald to the murder scene, the gun, the 4 spent hulls, and the jacket discarded 2 blocks from the scene.. Likewise, 6 eye ball witnesses (not just Helen Markham) place Oswald at the murder scene, carrying a gun.
And you dismiss it cause of the word "ruddy?"
roo7227 nonsense get a clue
Here's everything that's definitively provable (meaning individual eye-witness testimony, including Parkland doctors' testimony and government "alphabet" testimony, is excluded) in this case: JFK, 35th president of the US, was shot and killed in Dallas, TX on November 22, 1963; movie film (including Zapruder's) and still photos of the gunshot killing were made; after it was made aware that JFK was struck with bullets, he was rushed to Parkland Hospital; resuscitation efforts failed and he was pronounced dead at approximately 1 pm CST; officer J. D. Tippit was shot in another part of Dallas, TX and was pronounced dead in another hospital at 1:15 p.m. CST; a shooting suspect was apprehended by Dallas Police in a Dallas movie theater; his name was Lee Harvey Oswald [LHO]; he was only charged with killing Officer Tippit; a few days later, the suspect [LHO] himself was shot and killed at the Dallas Police Dept. by Jack Ruby (aka Jack Rubinstein); this act was publicly witnessed as it was broadcast live on national television. The rest I leave to your imagination. That's it. CASE CLOSED!
Evidently he got away nobody talks like that nobody would use the word evidently he got away.
The poor Warren Commission has to find a way to get Oswald from his boarding house at 1:07 PM to the Tippet Murder nearly a mile away after waiting for several minutes in front of his house for the bus, and after Patrol car 207 had honked its horn out front and then have him shoot Tippet who ( with bullet hulls that don't match his gun) suspects Oswald is the JFK Assassin but never pulls his gun out and then Oswald walks nearly another mile to the Theater in 12 minutes after leaving his wallet and jacket behind. But luckily for him, he had another wallet and jacket with him at the theater... Nothing to see here folks. Move along.
Early reports from Dallas has Oswald shooting Tibbets in the Texas Theater...another witness said tibbets honked 2 times as he drove past Lho boarding house...they apparently knew each other before 22 Nov 1963.
We know they most definitely did know each other.
Simply confused and garbled early reports on an extremely chaotic day.
Dallas police picked a guy up Donald house I believe,around the theater,had a white t,-shirt on he looked like oswald.same time frame.
I detect a lie nobody in the right mind chases the arm murderer with a gun unarmed that's just craziness
Where was ruby while all this was going on🤷
@King BBB: Ruby had taken his dog, Sheba to the salon for a pedicure. Let's see you make a conspiracy out of that.
Huh?????
It is easier to understand this madness just by assuming that there was more than one Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas that day. Understand ?
lol No.
Definitely Carl Mathers and Roscoe White I think the chief of police knew something too
Jilambu Mustafa knows the truth!
Carl Wilson of the Beach Boys ladies and gentlemen. Watch the Don't Worry Baby TV video they did. You'll get it.
Yeah, Oswald obviously didn't shoot Tippit.
Oh, *obviously* lol
The bullet shells from the pistol that killed Tippet were from an auto not a revolver. Thus it was not Oswald's pistol.
That is more made up BS nobody even pays any attention to it, state the proof and where you read this. Im sure you can't. Oliver Stone's crapola doesn't count.
@@leemoore9933 let's see Oliver Stone used real life witnesses as advisors who testified to clear evidence that there was at least one other shooter but the Warren Commission ignored them. I worked at a hospital with a doctor who was JFKs personal physician. He was angry the the Warren Report was a lie. He insisted the last shot came from the grassy knoll as all the evidence showed. Lone gunman nut jobs are just fooling themselves.
@@henochparks There isn't any evidence to support that claim, NONE! Keep believing that fairy tale, and I will keep believing the facts.
@@leemoore9933 humm we have the shells we have Oswald's gun.... Yea keep your eyes shut and your ears plugged and you will not see nor hear all the people who are laughing at you.
@@henochparks Oh thats ok I will just stick with the facts and my own opinion.
Decode his words.
I’m getting a Brazilian wax
There’s been claims that two different bullets were used. That implies two shooters of Tippett, but were there witnesses - and what’s their backgrounds, too? Because others allege Oswald had a lookalike (hubby of landlady who worked for CIA, longtime friends) - and JFK was really shot by a guy named White. White fled the SBD after shooting JFK, but the lookalike was given a ride by the landlady-wife in her Rambler wagon. To be seen by witnesses at SBD so FBI could send a BOTL for Oswald - who was actually at home before going to see a movie. The lookalike took his rifle to plant at the SBD and be seen by others in passing, so coworkers would say they saw Oswald there, too. Just so the Deep State could use Oswald as a patsy like he said later. Ruby was blackmailed by the mafia, who also wanted JFK gone like the CIA (their partners in other crimes).
The lookalike had the money to travel to fancy hotels, buy the rifle using a pseudonym to a PO Box address (same as Oswald’s he knew of), to frame Oswald. Lookalike also traveled to Mex City to say “I’m Oswald and I wanna kill JFK” at the Soviet and Cuba embassies! Again stayed at 5 star hotel in Finland, too. Lookalike was married to wealthy heiress and traveled wherever her CIA job took her, too.
Or one shooter and some planted bullets.
most likely tippett was killed by his own for finding or seeing something not in the plan
Evidentially was an interesting word there
just people telling the truth
Killing the police officer made them go to the movie theater and find him right away and because he had a gun on him from what he saw happen that the police would kill him that he had a gun and he was taken in so jack ruby can kill him instead of the police and he was told to go to the movie theater to have a reason for taking the afternoon off from work and were they can find him right away
Carl Mather Oswald lookalike and assassin knew Tippett who figured out what was going on Roscoe White and Ruby looking for Oswald Ruby killed Tippett and Mather went to movie theater to set up Oswald in his safe house position
kids today don't care it is all about Jenna Ortega dancing
Yeah I’m sure Oswald was telling the truth
Why would Oswald kill the cop after killing JFK .
Tippit had pulled up to Oswald and whatever Oswald said to him made him suspicious enough to want a closer look at him. When he got out of his car Oswald panicked and gunned him down.
To those conspiracy theorists who insist Reynolds was shot in order to get him to change his testimony: he stated before he was shot that he believed Oswald was the man he saw but would hesitate to positively ID him. This would have suited a conspiracy just fine. Reynolds' memory did NOT in fact "improve" much at all after he was shot, besides which he was hardly the linchpin of the case anyway as several other witnesses ID'd Oswald.
Warren commission is a joke, Allen Dulles was fired for the bay of pigs disaster and then he some how was in the warren commission investigating his death, unless you believe everything the government tells you, I see you “debunking” across all of these videos, questioning anything makes you automatically a conspiracy theorist, you’re either a government bot or you seriously believe everything they tell you.
@@chrisg4997 Thanks, now what has that got to do with the subject of Reynolds or for that matter with the evidence of this case?
Guess he knew about the tunnels
Reynolds ability to recognize Oswald as the man he chased was improved after he got shot. Before that he couldn't identify Oswald as the shooter of Tippit