Photographs, movies and strange people around TSBD (English Version)
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2009
- Photographer Tom Dillard took pictures of the Texas School Book Depository showing persons on the 6th floor. In the Dal-Tex Building two persons were spotted giving exactly the same story - Eugene Brading and Larry Florer.
(The assassination of President John F. Kennedy, November 22, 1963, Dallas, Texas)
I can't pretend to know exactly what happened that day but Dear God, how many coincidences do you have to learn of before you admit to yourself the official version is fiction?
Just like 9 one uno
@@dr.jackkevorkian1119 I haven't studied that one as thoroughly but lots of curious things there too.
There’s no thing as coincidences
Oh you
"Coincidence Theorist"
@@dr.jackkevorkian1119 For Sandy Hook OKC Boston Marathon Waco reals....
At 3:20 - thanks for putting the writing right over the windows we are trying to see and compare. Pure genius.
I LOVE good sarcasm!
8:37 is a recreation photo ? Sometimes movies are made in dealy plaza .
O dear got to the evidence and you put writing over it..was you hiding something. From us.🤔🤔🤔😖😖😖😤😤😤 Linda Bellamy UK.
I know they have a photo taken before the shooting, of the window, but the police took the film and have refused to release it to the public.
@rattycaddy
There is plenty of footage here and in more on this channel to compare. Possibly, you could write to the section of Government, that RUINED the original footage and the clearest part of the pic. Appreciation of this upload would be a more respectful. This channel has been dedicated to showing original footage and extra of anything regarding JFK for over 14+ years. I doubt the objective would be to "hide" anything from us.
The phone system in that building was mysteriously Out for like an hour when Kennedy was assassinated. Another witness who I believe worked there walked in yet another person who didn't belong there, supposedly to use the bathroom, and he strangely needed some kind of help. Super odd that for the 10 sec. that the President is going by, probably once in your life, and that's when you need to go into a strange building, up to the 3rd floor, make phone calls, or ask strangers to help you use a toilet. Don't think so.
And just where did you "hear" that nonsense???
@@djf750 "Veronah" heard it on a dead phone line.
Verons, none of that happened. Why do you write things like that without any evidence??
@@djf750 The Kennedy conspiracy crowd are past masters at writing "things like that without evidence." The lack of evidence only reinforces their belief that the evidence has been hidden. The essence of (political) paranoia.
@@stddisclaimer8020 a JFK conspiracist dies and goes to heaven and asks God who killed JFK and God says "Oswald, all by himself" to which the conspiracist immediately thinks " this is even bigger than we thought"
How strange that evidence has been destroyed or gone missing
Not strange at all. Witnesses passing under mysterious circumstances also not strange at all.
"The original negative was unfortunately destroyed" ... what a surprise. /s
Thumbprints and tears were popular. Funny that Zapruder was the only one paid big money.
One of the films I’ve seen shows everyone on the street walking in one direction immediately after the assasination, except one man in suit tie and hat walking very deliberately in the opposite direction.
I’ve seen that too, he reminds me of Ruby.
@@enriquemireles8947 He looks NOTHING like Ruby and his wife is following close behind, both in their 60's or 70's.
The older lady in brown, too. She can also be seen down toward the triple underpass
@@janetphillips2875 What about her? Does she have a high-powered rifle slung over her shoulder??
@@janetphillips2875just passers-by.
That mystery face in sixth floor window is very spooky.
Malcomb Wallace?
@@johnmceiver3769could be if he had taken his glasses off at that moment 🤔
Frank Sturgis
Love the music . It seem to draw you down the misty dark corridors of time until you blow the dust of an old newspaper to reveal Nov. 1963 .
So good isn’t it.
I looked at my Dallas Morning News 11/23/63 copy just today!!
A furniture store ad read that if you bought a $300 console tv, you got a 5 ft plastic Santa!!
What???? I want one of those Santas!!! You hardly get a 'Thank You' in a store nowadays.
I’m not seeing what you’re describing in the window. But I fully believe there were more than one shooter.
Why do you "fully believe" there was more than one shooter?
What evidence of that do you have?
@@djf750 I visited the TSBD 5 years ago, looked out of the 7th floor window (the 6th floor is sectioned off) and after a lifetime of thinking differently was suddenly sure Oswald was the lone gunman. Such an easy target from that vantage point. I could have done it from there. Liking shooting fish in a barrel.
@@hkpr-ro6ui And remember, it took Oswald three tries to hit JFK's head
@@djf750 Easy. And Oswald was a Marines sharpshooter.
@@hkpr-ro6ui I was a Marine, and a sharpshooter means the 2nd lowest qualification. There are 3 qualification badges, marksman, sharpshooter, and expert. He was a sharpshooter, meaning he could hit a target, but not with any high degree of accuracy. Ask any Marine.
Oswald took the job at the depository even before JFK had agreed to take Johnson's invitation to go to Dallas. The secret service had THREE secret routes and only chose the one past the depository at the last minute. Clearly a LOT of planning had gone into this assassination with many very high level people. Oswald also passed the paraffin test, had not fired a weapon! will we ever know?
The fbi is even better now at being crooked all of these years same thing funny how history repeats itself
CIA......... ENOUGH SAID
Ruth Paine wife of CIA got Oswald his job.
Yes, but how come Johnson was utterly determined (along with Gov. Connelly!) to visit Dallas again??!!??
In JackiO's book she stated that it was the loudest arguments she'd ever heard JFK get into. Connelly was also present.
Kennedy had an excellent point also since he'd been to Texas only a few months prior. ALSO, Texas was locked down bc of Johnson for the campaign.
*There truly was NO GOOD REASON to go to Dallas.
And look closely at who changed the parade route last minute. I forget his name but it's very telling.
@@shaneculkin7124 excellent supporting info..one strange theory is that JFK's brains ended up in an omelet shared by the conspirators (no brain left when JFK;s body showed up in DC...
That area was a perfect ambush site. The fence with tree cover on an incline slightly above a slow moving target. You could be pre staged just line a snipers lair. The area is like an echo chamber . Confusing as to direction of shots.
The car tilts 10-15 degrees going down Elm...even better.
@@marcuslaker5876 Yes and the case was never investigated. The amount of people who described shots coming from the front in Dealey Plaza is staggering,but they weren't listened too. Neither was The Medical Personnel at both Hospitals. Nor the evidence of many fragments and 2 or 3 other bullets that disappeared.
True true. But, sadly lil evidence to support.
Not perfect but very very close . More than a bit audacious actually, as literally the hit occurred less than a stone's throw from the sheriff's department!
Yes, THEY planned this thing very well...They got away with it , didn't they ?....All except unfortunate Oswald, who was exactly what he said he was , " A PATSY " . And because Oswald was a patsy , he was also a walking dead man until he officially went belly-up just a mere 48 hours later, at the hands of a concerned citizen named Jack Ruby who just wanted to spare Jackie Kennedy from a trial ...Jackie saw up close her husband's head getting partially blown off, but there was NO WAY she could endure a trial of the man who supposedly did it. Anyone who believes this garbage must be a lover of fairytales.
The person in the window is an incredible photo - one of the most important in history - wonder why it was never shown
Because it was Malcolm wallace
@@g.r.odenbach6541 the sheriff of Dallas was the brother of Alan dulles. There was a zero % chance of Malcolm not walking clean.....right out of the building.
@@g.r.odenbach6541 absolutely my friend I am not disagreeing with you at all I am open to any other theory on this
@@jasonmorgan5058
Sheriff Bill Decker wasn’t the brother of fired CIA director Allan Dulles - that would be John Foster Dulles, Ike’s Secretary of State.
Dulles’ deputy (also fired by JFK) was the brother of the then-mayor of Dallas.
Because the FBI destroyed it.
There was a shooter in that room on the 6th floor, however it wasn't Oswald.
Correct.
There also was 1 behind the fence and another in the driver seat which is the 1 that shoots the head exploding shot.
I agree, it wasn't Oswald especially when the negative was destroyed which would be someone else in that window they wanted covered up.
Correct Malcolm Wallace was the shooter in the TSBD.
@@CSDonohue11 no they’re all in your head only.
@@CSDonohue11 Don't believe driver was a shooter.
You know you’ve successfully covered up the crime when you could be told the truth and you wouldn’t believe it.
Very true. The original fake news- a pro casto-ite assassin printed in all the newspapers the next day.
They record all license plates leaving the Texas Book Depository parking lot, and then the list disappears. All they need is a few key people making stuff disappear.
@@larrywheeler9917 The original fake news? You know propaganda and one-way narration has been around as long as storytelling. And the Nazi's had a handful of crap to print as well.
@@cliffordwebb137 lfew key people making people disappear,,, as well.
There was NO cover up because there was NO conspiracy, Oswald did it, all by himself
that Larry Florer has always intrigued me ! who would walk into an office block and ride the elevator up three floors to use a phone ? could he be the thick set guy with horn rimmed glasses seen in the windowc? could he be Mac Wallace ? all this said, you all need to read Primary Target by James Files, it's a real eye opener and answers many questions.
Thank you John I have seen videos of Files telling what happened according to his involvement and couldn't find his name again.
James Files comes closer to the truth than anyone else. I believe him. Why would he incriminate himself like that if he wasn't telling the truth
@@customcleaners726 because he has nothing more to lose, he's already serving his life sentence in jail.
I was intrigued until you mention James Files. How many times is he mentioned by other writers? Researchers?
How come he was buds with Oswald supposedly, but yet didnt know that Oswald didnt have a car, or a license, because he couldnt drive. Ruth said she tried to teach him in her big blue Chevy Nomad, but gave up after 2 lessons.
One legal/semantic note: I don't believe that the men in the Dal-Tex building were actually "Arrested" by police. An arrest would mean booking, questioning, and probably legal intervention on the part of the men in question. They were probably detained by the Dallas police. That is to say: stopped, isolated, questioned, ID verified, etc. I'm not saying these men were not there for nefarious purposes. They might well have been. But an arrest is a much more complex, formal legal procedure and the idea that they were arrested and nothing came of it is a much more significant development.
you do know they didnt have photo ID's back then. A fake ID was super easy.
shots did come from the knoll and TSBD. but oswald did not do the shooting.
Exactly what I just posted.
Lol really.
Thank You! He is innocent of this dubious distinction just like he said before Ruby blew him away.
The shot or shots that came from the TSBD most likely hit Governor Connolly & none of them were the shot that blew the skull off of JFK. That was from the Knoll vicinity & Oswald did not fire that shot & most everyone knew it.
You missed the pattern double Cross.
It wasn't Os.
It wasn't Oz.
It was Az.
Az was the knoll shooter.
Os is a false trail.
Oz is a decoy.
The idea was , you can hide the knoll shooter , as per say , and you can alter perceptions of the shooter to a photographer.
Thank you for this footage, it's gold🙏🏻🙏🏻. Either in this one or a shorter vid of yours showing footage of the window, there's clearly...in my eyes, a man exactly to the left of the circled man who is dressed in black and seems to have beanie type covering. I've seen it many times but it's not been mentioned, neither in the comments. He's sitting or crouching and there seems to be two white/light 'shirted' wearing men in that room with the apparent "sniper." It's truly amazing really how the public totally eats up, believing everything that's "reported"... like off a script, including "reports BEFORE things have happened. And we now know how a room full of aides, government officials (PR imho) sit to literally think out the story and narrative they're going to TELL us all to believe! - IT'S TRUE bc we say so! And we now know it's NOT and it's lies sometimes. They make a "conspiracy" of almost every obvious thing that we question. I mean, there's clear footage and technically we could reopen the JFK case. But they already wasted the allocated money to all who played their parts in the Warren report charade. Same as January 6. But no matter what anyone says or does or shows or could even have a total handwritten confession to all the great many lies that we were fed, it would make no difference bc they'd totally corrupt the info and shoot down, so to speak...ah hhm, the narrative that opposes their well thought out written scripts. And JFK was the first one that wanted transparency and they didn't like it. They're arrogantly, narcissistic like secret societies thrive on it being so. I don't believe the JFK assassination in particular had been connected to the '☠ & 🦴' society. But we'll never know. But I do believe it was a carefully thought out, select bunch of the collective 'rogue' FBI, CIA, police, the mob, the four Texan oil men, the provided sniper..all whether blackmailed or in for their own reasons...all had a lot to gain and that main connection is LBJ. I'll not ever change my mind about LBJ being the central and only reason for that murder on November 22, 1963. Thank you so very much for your footage and rare vids..and the fact that you allow ppl to reach their own conclusions. With no biased views or influence. Very grateful 🙏🏻 😁🙏🏻
Problem is, all the employees of the TSBD were interviewed that day. They all said nobody who did not work there entered the building that day except for an elderly gentleman who used the restroom and then left. There's no way that there were multiple conspirators camped out on the 6th floor, cloaked in invisibility from the depository employees.
I believe skull and croobonecare definitely in this deal all about world control
@@maryfries2147 Yes about world control yes. You're not wrong about that. Wef, Klaus, soros, who openly admitted he thinks he's "God" and so behaves as such in all his businesses and lifestyle. He'll one day realize how wrong he is. God wins. And we, his children, boots on the ground-earth must do the truth and work..✌🏼
LBJ didn't have to have anything to do with it. If Kenedy is killed for whatever reason, LBJ is president. LBJ could have been in the right place for the killers to act. Kenedy had to go was the bottom line.
Spot on!
I don’t believe that Oswald was a lone shooter, but I cannot see anything in these pictures
Oswald had worked for Intelligence services. That's why I believe he became ' lone nut'.
Possible that man in the window was Mac Wallace, the man who shot Henry Mitchell, the Dept. of Agriculture investigator. Mitchell was investigating Billie Sol Estes, who was connected to LBJ
Wallace was convicted of 1st degree murder in Texas. He served 5 months. LBJ got him out of it.
The unknown fingerprint from the 6th floor is now proven to be Marc Wallace's.
@@rickjensen2833 Correct
The man in the window was Mac Wallace. I saw his facial features
If there’s 5 or 6 photos of the window that time, and only one destroyed, the other negatives need to be examined again. It’s possible to print them using low contrast darkroom paper - or scan them digitally - to reveal every available shape and tone. But if the film’s grain is too grainy, it could be disputed.
some TSBD employees said that just before 12:30 the power mysteriously went out in the building.Another amazing coincedence.
Not a coincidence.
@@timothyernest6429
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Okay......but coincidence or not, what is the significance of the power outage in the TSBD, if it did take place ??
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@@sdne1959 Just think about it for a moment.
The significance was that it killed the power to the elevator somehow helping the real shooting team to escape from the Depository.
PEOPLE NEED TO RESEARCH THE MAN WHO HIRED OSWALD. HE IS THE SAME MAN THAT LETS ALL EMPLOYEES OFF WORK TO WATCH THE MOTORCADE WHICH ALLOWED ALL OF THE HIT TEAMS TO ENTIRE THE BUILDING
Thank you for this information.
Thanks for posting the clips. Great info. Usually not widely used by the main stream, mostly because it creates doubt on the official version. Just seems like any evidence, statements, observations that were in conflict with the preconceived official version, are simply ignored, dismissed as unreliable, or deemed to be wrong.
I appreciate your videos. I was lucky enough to see Senator Kennedy when he was campaigning for the presidency. He charmed that entire audience. I was 9 when he was shot. I remember in one of the shows a few days after the horrible event mentioned the 2 unknown men who were in the SBD looking for a phone. That seemed suspicious then
That creepy ass music makes me feel like someones staring @ me through the window.
Like I don’t want to see the face lol
😂😂
😅 lol.
Like actor Richard Belzer who wrote a few JFK books said, "That day we became a Banana Republic. Killing our own commander and chief!" He was right in my opinion. Plus if Oswald was the ONLY shooter, why all the coverup? And I read that many people who witnessed the JFK assassination say "If Oswald was shooting. He surely was NOT shooting alone!" Thanks for the upload.
Belzer is full of shit. NOBODY was silenced because there was nothing to be silenced about.
And exactly who are the people "who witnessed the JFK assassination" who said "he surely was NOT shooting alone" SPECIFIC names please
We'll wait
So true.
At 1:36 you can see out the west sixth floor window of the texas schoolbook depository .
You can see the knoll , zapruder , umbrella man , kennedy stop in the limo .
The photo is of the area right at the stairways running up and down the building . Right where one of the several rifles used was said to be found .
This is a great video and fills in some blanks many of us havent thought of. An easy question: If Lee Harvey Oswald did it - we apparently "know" who the "killer" is --- why are there so many documents from this case sealed and not released ? You allegedly "got" killer - why hide the documents ? 😂😂😂
Im from Dallas my friends parents were there at dealy plaza, I was in 1st grade. They said 4 shots not 3 and the shots had different pitch sounds means different rifles, everyone rushed grassy knoll cause shots came from there. Parkland Drs know 2 shots were from front... Warren Commission is one big fucking lie..
The autopsy determined that there were no strikes to the body from the front. The Warren Commission got it right.
@@kegeshook1734 who's autopsy?? Oh that's right the one from Bethesda where they took the stolen body....oh yea, I believe everything they documented ..
@@kenamaro3942 The body wasn't stolen. It was taken legally after an inquest was held at Parkland by Justice of the Peace Theron Ward. The autopsy determined that there were no strikes to the body from the front. Autopsy photos also confirm that the wound high in the forehead above the right eye was one of exit.
If you notice in other videos LBJ motorcade was delayed when president Kennedy motorcade made that turn around the Texas school book depository.
the guy in the window was most likely wallace, as we know now, johnsons hitman, who killed many people for him.
Once, after watching a doc presenting different facts I was puzzled why Oswald didn't take the shots at Kennedy as the car approached the building rather than after it passed. Approaching, he had an area from JFK's belt line up. About a 2'x2' target. Going away, a target barely 1' vertical and less than that horizontally. He waited for half the target area. Makes no sense. There is (reenactment) video of the limo approaching....but Connally is covered by the bulletproof windshield. Going away is the only shot anyone would have at him from the TSBD. Could Connally have been the target? Oswald was pissed that his discharge status had not been corrected and Connally would not respond to his letters. We need to look at every angle...If Kennedy was the target, why wait? If he was that psyched up he likely didn't care if anyone witnessed it.
Simply because at that angle it would be obvious of the trajectory of the bullet.
The assassination teams waited until the limo was on Elm Street because it was at that point where they became a sitting duck. Unless the driver wanted to drive onto the grass to the left of Elm, the car was trapped until it hit the underpass. There was no escape. It was the only spot on the motorcade route where the car couldn’t take evasive action and offered multiple positions for firing. Oswald got the job at the Depository only AFTER the route was chosen. Do not believe the opposite. The conspirators had all their ducks in a row long before October 1963.
@@tsmith3286 That doesn’t make any sense. If it was Lee’s intent to kill the President he could have easily have done while the limo was coming right at him.
@@davidpallin772 But I just explained why and apparently it was pretty easy anyway assuming Oswald did it.
@@davidpallin772 That right, at least 2x easier for Oswald to have taken the shot as the limo approached TSBD and no signs or pesky tree in the way. Makes no sense unless you understand that they needed to get the limo much *closer* to the grassy knoll for the all-important frangible bullet shot(s) before all hell broke loose after the very first shot was fired from the fake 'Oswald' nest.
I LOVE THE SPOOKY MUSIC. Goes great with the photos. I really enjoy the HelmerReenberg videos
What about the prisoners looking out the window of the county jail. Seeing people in that 6th fl window. Thinking they were secret service or police. No one to my knowledge has ever followed up on that.
Yeah they tried to say it never happened sadly
@@tula1433 Because, hey! it never happened.
They should have box stacking contests at the Sixth Floor Museum.
No way security could be this bad in the ambush plaza. Tall buildings and perfect cover behind a fence area with trees up on a knoll . Then a slow moving target coming into an echo chamber. The target was a sitting duck. There were not even motorcycle escorts in front of target car. The only secret service man to react was on Jackie' s side of target car. For Mr. Hill to run up and reach the car meant the car had to be literally at a standstill. Considering that powerful interests in Dallas were hostile to JFK and also had links to security or lack of, I would have to conclude an inside job. Further evidence of this - the superficial staging of the crime scene and the highly provocative profile of the suspect leads me to conclude he was staged himself. The forces that had the means, motive , and opportunity and ability to control the investigation could not have picked a more ideal location than Dallas Texas.
Dealey Plaza is the site of the first Masonic temple in Dallas. And he had to be murdered on "Bloody Elm" & had to have the fatal blow to the head before they went through the triple underpass. Thus the car stop. Reenactment of the murder of Hiram Abiff. Shot to throat; heart [the bullet in his back was supposed to have gone to his heart; the trajectory was to his heart]; head. It was a 'Killing of the King' ritual murder.
@@daphneduryea9136
And a guy on the west side of the texas schoolbook depository window could see the knoll and umbrellaman and zapruder and kennedy.
Yes there were motorcycles ahead, and 2 on each side of rear fenders, but they had slowed. The 5 bikes had stopped at the top of tbe ramp waiting for Currys car, then the limo to come on. Theres photos to prove this.
Very interesting that Military Intelligence Officer James Powell was in the TSBD building.He wasnt the only one in Dealey Plaza at that moment.
Alfredo Duran- a member of Brigade 2506 was photographed in Dealey Plaza.
William 'Rip' Robertson-CIA agent from JMWAVE photographed in Dealey Plaza.
John Adrian O'Hare-CIA/Operation 40
Isnt it amazing that all these CIA agents just happened to all be at the very spot where JFK was murdered.
Proof of a plot to murder Kennedy from within a rogue para military cell .
Yeah...NOT a coincidence! Inside job 100%
You also had Eugene Hale Brading there. He was also at the ambassador hotel when Bobby was assassinated along with Morales. CIA boys
The fake SS agent behind the grassy knoll was identified as Bernard Barker. He was one of the Watergate burglars as well.
@@fiddlefolk wow!
@@fiddlefolk nice comments
Could this be Lamar Hunt or Billie sol Estes or Malcolm Wallace? If it's any one of these 3 that we be literally suspicious to say the least. They I'D him as Larry Floorer but it's amazing how similar they all look.
the shots from the TSBD were probably just to help frame Oswald. Obviously they the best shooter at the picket fence.
Death shot was an upward trajectory shot by Allan Lawrence from the sewer opening...limo stopped at a prescribed spot..driver was signaled by umbrella
Man and raised fist man...a raised fist is the signal to stop in big rig "spotting".
Assassination from the sewer opening is recreated in an episode of the Davis Dacovney show 😳
Was the picket fence higher than limousine?
@@johnwhiting6663 yes, probably about 20 feet higher.
How did Jack Ruby get such access to the Dallas Police station? He was in the press room and yelled "fair play for Cuba" as the organization that Oswald belonged to. How would he know such a thing?
because he was a "cop groupie" and he welcomed all cops to his club and most of the cops, and DA Wade, knew him.
@@djf750 And that is why he was the perfect choice to rub out Oswald. Oswald was the loose wire that had to be clamped down or the entire Conspiracy would be known. Ruby knew Oswald before the assassination and it was his job to finish the job. His debts with the mob were forgiven with that act. And the CIA and FBI knew all along because Ruby was a paid informant.
@@davidarbuckle7236 "His debts with the mob were forgiven with that act"
But but...he would now go to prison for life, why would he ever agree to that?? And please tell us what "debt" he owed the "mob" (I haven't heard this one yet, I can't wait)
And was that ALL the mob-sters or just some of them?
@@djf750 Numerous Mob organizations were involved in the Kennedy Assassination. Ruby was a minor player. But had did have gambling debts. He was running a prostitution ring in Dallas. Remember, Bobby Kennedy was at war with the Mob. And they were very upset with Kennedy after the Bay of Pigs since they were losing a hundred million a year in Hotels and Gambling in Cuba because of Castro. They had plenty of incentive to get rid of Kennedy.
He had been to Cuba a yr before. It was all one big deal. The New Orleans bunch and Ruby and the mafia were all tied together. Shaw owned the Trade Mart down there. He was running guns and in on the training. The CIA now admits that Shaw, Ruby, Oswald, Ferrie, etc etc were associates (not agents), for them. Its in the Archives, but info was withheld at that time. Hoover knew every bit of this! Jim Garrison had a case, but the media discredited him, on orders of the higher uppers. Shaw, Andrews, etc, lied on the witness stand. They were later tried for perjury and was found guilty. All the things Oliver Stone was given grief about in his movie, has came to pass. One comment I read stated they couldnt believe Perry Russo wasnt even mentioned in the movie, JFK! Russo WAS IN THE MOVIE as HIMSELF! All I can say is research it yourself. Its a shame Mr. Garrison was treated that way. Shaw's CIA code name was Q-K Enchant. When Velma mentions a man with heavy eyebrows, I thought of Ferrie.
The problem is that high level persons in the DPD were part of the cover up, as well as some lower level officers doing their direct bidding. Add in the FBI demanding all the evidence be turned over, and the Secret Service stealing the President's body and the limo, and everything is very chaotic. Those who were honestly doing their best still manged to do some good, and make the task of those coving up the crime much more difficult.
I’ve always wondered what type of car Mr Andrews drove that caused Tippit to stop him, was it a green station wagon? ???
MORE RESEARCH NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THE MAN WHO HIRED OSWALD.....HE IS THE SAME MAN THAT LETS ALL EMPLOYEES OFF WORK (SO THEY COULD WATCH THE MOTORCADE) WHICH ALLOWED ALL OF THE HIT TEAMS TO ENTIRE THE BUILDING!
depository owned by a woman a friend of LBJ...
The first question anyone asks is why, if Oswald was the killer, would he leave his rifle, with the serial number registered on his mail order document, with his fingerprints on it, knowing that he would be immediately identified?
@manuelperales8217 Criminals are typically not sharp, rational thinkers; especially those who act, as did LHO, on impulse and opportunity.
@@stddisclaimer8020 His argument is a good one, yet in my opinion it looks more like an overt "self-incrimination", considering all the clues LHO left behind, including the famous pre-assassination photo, in which he posed with his rifle and a newspaper. All he needed was to hold up a sign saying "I am Lee Harvey Oswald. I'm going to kill the president very soon. I'm going to make it very easy for you to stop me. Just follow the clues."
@@manuelperales8217 At the time of the "backyard photos," it cannot be automatically assumed that Oswald had set his sights on shooting anyone (even General Walker). That being said, most criminals are just plain stupid, and do not usually think very deeply about covering their tracks.
@@stddisclaimer8020 you have chosen the exact word: that can be attributed to such a murderer: stupid.
@@manuelperales8217 Yes indeed, Who ever said Oswald was the brightest bulb in the chandelier?
Mr Larry Florer is a tremendously interesting person, and this is where I first heard of him - thanks Helmer. This after 30 years interest in this subject, and in the Dal Tex Building's significance almost immediately upon that. And here we see Florer walked down the block and into the detetciove's offices. Wonder what story he might have told.. You know - other than the one he did.
Just that creepy smile on his face, in all photos, makes one think he is gloating about something!
@@curbozerboomer1773 "they" say that he was drunk, if not, he played the part.
There was a video taken off that showed the Del Tex building where someone was also shown on top of that ! Just sad most of the videos that have a lot of evidence for more than one shooter gone! We all know that government went far and beyond to hide the truth ! The start of real American government crimes !
@@TheHeavensFellen Yup. There were a lot of world class performances in The JFK Assassination. Oswald in his lead up to the killing as a Pro Castro Nut, and LBJ in his phony baloney remarks at Andrews AF Base should have got Oscars.
Larry Florer actually went to the 3rd floor of the County Records Bldg., not the Dal-Tex bldg. But otherwise, his story is almost identical to Braden’s in the Dal-Tex bldg.
LBJ’s man was in the 6th floor and his hand print was on the rifle.
Maybe the DPD took down license plate numbers, but they didn't search the trunks of the cars. No eyewitness remembers any car trunks being opened during the entire time the parking lot was closed to traffic entering or exiting. As soon as it came over the airwaves that Oswald had been arrested, they just lifted the cordon, and people could drive out. If a weapon and/or assassin was in any of those trunks, they would have got out unobstructed. So the DPD wasn't exactly meticulous.
And what happened to the list of plate numbers?
Excellent observation
They were "meticulous" in carrying out their "orders" and their "parts" in the days events!
Lazy or scared bunch of bastards.
@kev03103 How so, they were following orders, that's what a good officer does??
Here’s another thing I don’t get. Why would an experienced shooter (even if only an average shot) pick a sniper spot that required aiming at a target moving away from you? And at approximately 60 feet up you would have to make an instant adjustment for height? And this was all after he had missed General Walker from a standing position and Walker was seated at his desk? And your only escape route was down six flights of stairs in front of people who new you and some of whom may have heard the rifle cracks? Finally LHO was by even undisputed accounts a temperamental ass. Supposedly he was seen calmly drinking a soft drink immediately afterward? Really?
Ballistics has answered all of your questions...do some research.
Ballistics has nothing to do with his questions. Those are very good practical questions.
Johnnybeanz - those are some great point for sure which I haven't thought of. I'm pretty sure we all can agree - LHO had nothing to do w any of this.
@@turnsufficient4971 BEST REBUTTAL to the kooks.""If Oswald acted alone, how did he know the limo was gonna take 'that detour' to give him the shot in the first place?"" Then kindly ask them to F OFF!
TSBD Vice President Ochus V. Campbell, Mrs Robert Reid & TSBD inspector Roy Truly
were watching the motorcade parade & after the shooting they went back inside
on the ground floor & saw Oswald in the storage room. According to Richard Hooke
Oswald was on the first floor in the domino room when Officer Marrion Baker saw
Oswald after the shooting.
Ochus V. Campbell was present during the encounter, the WC moved it to the 2nd floor
to look more plausible Oswald could've got there ahead of Baker.
Even the 2nd floor is unlikely for Oswald to cover his tracks & maneuver his way around boxes & work his way to the stairs & run down 4 floors unseen by others & appear calm & relaxed.
FBI man James Hosty later revealed Oswald told Fritz he saw Roy Truly bring a rifle to
the TSBD 2 days before JFK's fateful day & showed it to employees to go deer hunting.
Hosty said the FBI checked & confirmed Oswald's story.
Jack Edwin Dougherty was quite sure Oswald didn't bring a package to work that morning.
the DAY before this happened their were 2 rifles in the building. ONE WAS A MAUSER.
one was a MAUSER.@@fidneusdiller8123
the package the rifle "supposedly" was in later was found in the undeliverable mail ADDRESS to Lee Owald and sent to 601 W. Nassau St....The package the feds said they found in the TSBD I say was in fact this package that was mailed to LHO to a dead address so of course it would be found. I also think it is ironic if you spell Nassau backwards it is part of the overall fun they had with the BIG EVENT. oswaldsmother.blogspot.com/2010/01/mysterious-package.html@sdiller8123
Alot of people didn't know who Roscoe white was at the time of the assassination...he was installed on the police force at the same time oswald was given the job at the tsbd... and they knew one another... from being in the Marine corps together
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@davidfrison2765 Correct your misinformation. Though White and Oswald served in the Marines at about the same time, they were not in the same unit, nor were they ever stationed in the same area. Thus, they never "knew one another."
Yes Roscoe White is extremely suspicious.
I don't buy into most of the theories on YT, the pics of the TSBD were interesting. Since we need to trust the people who took the photos & made the video (ie., when the pics were taken), it's hard to draw conclusions. I've always thought that the Warren report omitted anything that suggested others were involved as it would mean others were involved. The public would not be happy knowing Jfk's killers would never be brought to justice. They wanted no questions to be left unanswered.
The evidence shows there were two or more people on the 6th floor of the TSBD. Two might have been shooters, Mauser for one, Mannlicher Carcano for the other, or one was a shooter, the other a spotter or team leader, or there were two gunmen and a leader. Could be that none of them were Oswald, since he was seen downstairs by a policeman seconds after the shots and because of the power outage he could not have taken the elevator down, and he did not appear winded from running down multiple flights of stairs. Awfully convenient for phones and power to go out, and only one of four rear exits being guarded.
Power was not out because Oswald got a coke out of machine
the snipers nest was never used, was just a setup to take the heat off , where the shots really come from
liten48 You are so right.
I think there were shots from 6th floor but not as you say the "snipers nest".
Driver
The Driver shot that fatal shot that made the governor & his wife drop to the floor and Jackie try to jump out of the car.
There was two shooters a team in the TSBD, a team behind the fence and the driver (& passenger team) shoots the fatal head shot over his right shoulder with his left hand, right when the car comes to the complete stop before it finally speeds off, which is also right when the Governor & his wife finally drop all the way to the floorboard and that’s when Jackie all of a sudden try’s to jump out of the back of the car
It’s because the driver just blew the presidents brains out and it’s too F’n crazy for peoples brains to even see it, to even pick it up , plus they have everyone looking everywhere else, just like the bear & the basketballs thing.
That’s when it all happens and none of the passengers are looking @ the driver right then but they all drop or try to run away from him and I’m sure the shock of that @ the moments just after & weeks & even months or more after made then not sure of wtf happened or what they felt like happened.
It’s perfect time though because it’s right when no one is looking in the drivers direction, not even the people decades later still trying to see.
You’ll have to watch it a few times before it all of a sudden pops out but once you’re finally able to see it, you can’t unsee it.
To frame LHO, was the main purpose .
Far too much attention devoted to the Sixth Floor of the TSBD over the years given the primary shots came from other locations throughout Dealey Plaza...DalTex where a team was located on the second floor, (Tony Izquederio ostensible shooter) County Records where a team was on the roof (According to researchers, Harry Weatherford was here), and teams located variously located throughout the plaza area itself. The Three Tramps were later determined to be in all likelihood a fifth team placed as a failsafe unit should JFK survived the choke point hits and traverse the underpass.
The joker and penguin were team number six in case the hundred and four other shooters missed.
birdandthe The thought just hit me, birdandthe that your theory is just about as absurd as the Warren Report itself.
robert glenn Is that the joker and penguin ? or the 104 shooters listed in Bugliosis reclaiming history ?
Too much misinformation in your message. Weatherford was with his colleagues in front of the Sheriff Office during the shooting. Stop spreading lies about Weatherford.
Check your own facts, Denis. According to testimony by Joseph Ball as published in the Warren Report, Weatherford and another deputy were on the roof of the Records Bldg, not as you claim, in front of the sheriff's office. Apparently, Harry was up there for "security" although Bill Decker told all Dallas Co. Sheriff units to stand down that day and do nothing in a security related sense.
In a Court of Law, an abundance of circumstantial evidence is taken seriously. When you have one "coincidence" after another or details seem not to fit an account...you know, by instinct, that something is not right. Detectives talk about their "gut instinct" and it is a primal intuition that we've all experienced and often disregard; to our regret.
Oswald would never have been found guilty of murdering JFK (or Tippit, for that matter) in a court of law, and that is why he himself was murdered. LBJ had sway and political clout in Texas, that is why "they" moved the "Big Event" from Orlando to Dallas.
@@AirRyanTXOswald would've been convicted in 30 seconds with the evidence they had. That case was a prosecuting attorneys dream come true. And I think you're referring to Miami, not Orlando...
A preponderance of evidence. Exactly it was an inside thing.
0:54: "The original negative was unfortunately destroyed while in the custody of the federal government in the late '70ties (sic)."
Don't worry, God keeps records.
@Baron Von Shrapnel: god's negative got "destroyed" in the fictional book of Genesis.
@@stddisclaimer8020 impossible. Genesis was thousands of years before JFK.
@@BaronVonShrapnel But both the book of Genesis and the idea of a JFK conspiracy can be classified as pure fiction.
@MALCBAGGIE one thing we can both agree on is that trying to convince each other as to what the "truth" regarding the jfk assassination is a futile effort. we can argue whether the speed of the car on elm was slower in relation to the rest of the motorcade -of course the car slowed down on elm. the secret service man clint hill ran from the ss follow car and jumped on the back of the limo. I agree -the fact that oswald wotked at the ambush site- trumped any other better ambush sites.
Good film. Your captions and grammar are obnixous.
Turning the power off proves a conspiracy and showed that they did not want to take any chances of anyone coming up there, let alone seeing things that they did not need to see.
Governor's reaction
They are going to kill all
Does it not imply some
complicity of plot and
sudden fear of being
added as target victim?
Why the plural "They"
when nobody could say
single or more shooters
Has someone thought
of this angle?
One of the original "eye raisers"! I believe he racanted or denied the comment later. Of course.
Larry Florer actually went to the third floor of the County Records Building. But other than that, his story was very close to Braden’s.
Awesome video! Can you tell me the soundtrack that you used?
Lum Lewis was reportedly a pallbearer at the Jewish funeral of Ruby Goldstein, a pawn shop gun retailer and a very close business associate of Jack Ruby
It was obviously a coup d’état and we know who’s been in office since.
Even smart enough to play on both sides of the aisle as if they are against each other.
Only maybe 2 Presidents since have managed to be elected or selected into office that are not tied to this event in some way or another,
Whether it’s family ties or what.
Kind of have to admire the genius in it all as well though.
I wish everyone the best. 🙏
Naw
Jimmy Carter, Obama and Trump not connected?
I agree, it was a coup and they have been running it since, whether or not they have their president in. Not hard to control a president. Especially when no one knows who is actually CIA or not. George HW Bush claimed he was never in the CIA before coming Director, when everyone knew he was CIA for life.
I disagree that it was genius. Just a group of very powerful criminals with a lot to gain and controlled the levers of power. Everyone was too scared to speak up. Gangsters with nice suits is all.
@@badmanskill1112 Did not Trump's father have strong ties to the government? Wasn't he some high profile pysicist or engineer?
@@kennethcurtis1856 the uncle of Trump was a government guy. Fred the father was a builder and landlord, some say slumlord.
Genius?
Mac Wallace was at the depository
This is what happened that morning of November 22, 1963 in Dallas and the Zapruder video speaks very clearly. The presidential limousine takes Elm Street and after a few meters the first shot fired by Nicoletti starts who, together with Rosselli, was hidden in the Dal Tex Building. The first bullet misses its target and hits the sidewalk of the triple rail crossing at the end of the square and a splinter ends up in the face of James Tague, a passerby who was standing there. The second bullet hits Kennedy in the throat, and as you can see in the footage, the president puts his hands around his neck and Governor Connally turns back to understand what happened. The third bullet misses and ends up on the lawn where it is later found by an FBI man and Deputy Buddy Walthers. The fourth bullet hits Connally who emits a grimace of pain as seen in the video and brings his right hand to his stomach because he accuses an immediate pain and then the bullet pierces his right wrist and plants itself in the thigh of his left leg. The fifth bullet hits Kennedy in the back of the head and the sixth bullet, fired by James Files hiding on the grassy knoll half a second after the fifth shot, shoots both Kennedy's blood and head back, and the brain leaking was due to pressure. of the sixth bullet that had left an apple-sized hole behind Kennedy's head, as evidenced by photos of 14 people bringing their hands to the same spot on their heads. I say with certainty that the bullets were 6 because it seems that a shot was fired about every three seconds, that is the time to reload the rifle. Returning to Connally, which is the key to clarifying the mystery well, there is a lot to say. 1) First of all, from the angle in which Oswald would have found himself firing, which was about 45 degrees, only Kennedy would have been hit and no one else, the bullet could not in any way make a deviation and then hit the governor. 2) When Kennedy is shot Connally turns around to see what happens and stays there for about three seconds, the time to reload the shot in the rifle; if the governor had been hit by the magic bullet, at the same time as the president, he would have had the same reaction as Kennedy and would have neither the way nor the strength to look back. 3) The governor Connally when he is wounded is still turned and you see a grimace of pain as I mentioned before him and then turn forward again and collapse on his wife's legs. 4) In the video you can see how Connally bumps his head in front of the glass that separates him from the driver's and assistant's seats. 5) Do you know why Connally was hit? Both because Kennedy threw himself on his wife's right shoulder, because bending over did not hinder the trajectory of the fourth bullet that almost grazed him hitting the governor, and because the shot was fired by Nicoletti from the window of the Dal Tex Building and reached the governor, because Kennedy was leaning towards his wife. So, not only does the first missile reveal where the shot really came from, but also what hit Connally. Indisputable and real evidence, but unfortunately denied by many, including the Warren commission which veiled so much evidence.
My father was close friends and was an associate Of jack Ruby. Both were heavily connected to the Chicago Mob. I know a few things I'm actually afraid to divulge. My father called Jack about a year after the murder from our kitchen table. I will tell you something just because I remember it so distinctly. When I asked my dad who killed JFK, he paused, smiled, and said, "son, who didnt" If you'd like to chat sometime, please get back to me. I've got a few questions that I'd like to ask you. 😎
@@bartonknight2254 Of course, when you want I am at your complete disposal.
@@bartonknight2254 That was a great synopsis of events. Are these your own conclusions or are they in a book somewhere? How many subsequent murders took place of people with knowledge of a conspiracy? Is there a list somewhere?
I agree that there were teams of assassins there that day and I believe there was as many as 12 shots fired. I disagree that Kennedy’s throat shot came from behind. Evidence suggest it came from the front. There was a bullet hole in the windshield and it’s this shot that hit Kennedy’s throat. I saw the pics of the limo at the hospital with the bullet hole from a front shot right here on RUclips.
@@mizzutigerfan1 That must be either one of the bullets that went missing and ended up in the lawn where Roger Craig found it or the one that ended up in the three-way underpass where James Tague was. But in my opinion 12 shots were not fired, even in the exploding the bullets would not have been heard because Nicoletti's rifle was fitted with a silencer.
Roger Craig told people what he saw and heard that day. "They" kept trying to kill him and finally did on the fifth try.
He is an interesting witness....but was not popular with his fellow officers, who thought he was a little bit "off", he killed himself a few years later....BTW, he had insisted that he was inside the captains office with Oswald--but a photo of him shows that he was not inside, but outside the office during that time frame......this suggests that he was exaggerating his story as time went by.....some of his fellow cops said that he often would stretch the truth.
@@curbozerboomer1773 First I've heard any of that. You have a source?
@@curbozerboomer1773 hes there at least in an outer room, meeting with the rest its in garrison's book.
These great videos have reawakened my interest in this case. There are so many books about it - any thoughts as to the most comprehensive and convincing one?
Robert Groden. The 6th Floor Museum despises him.
The Warren Report.
Or Case Closed, Gerald Posner
@@brad-corfman The Warren report? I wasn't thinking of a comedy version of the story, to be honest.
@@martynb901 I was told "Nightmare in Dallas" was a good read. I haven't read it yet, but I will once I'm done reading "The Reporter who knew too much" Which is very VERY interesting. You should give that one a shot if you haven't already. It's about this woman that was searching for the truth of this JFK case, and got alot of stuff that she had written about it, and all of a sudden, was found dead, and all of the stuff she wrote about the case mysteriously vanished
Jim Garrisons book. On the trail of the assassins. Being the DA in New Orleans and ties of Oswald to New Orleans, Garrisons book is an accounting of his investigation and attempt to hold the CIA operatives accountable. Also, The Hidden History of the JFK Assassination By Lamar Waldron.. . The Hidden History of the JFK Assassination, is a reporting of what the new releases from the government have shown about the gunmen and ties to the Mafia and Carlos Marcello.
released in 2013.
At 9:11 the film indicates the building was sealed off "immediately" after the shooting, but prior to that the film states that the building wasn't sealed for 30 mins. One thing I don't know why I never noticed having heard before was the power being shut off in the building when the motorcade was approaching. Was that the case with all the buildings along the motorcade route? Or just the TSBD? And if so, why was the Hertz sign still working? Or was the power shut off in order to stop people from taking the elevator up to the 6th floor while the "sniper's nest" was being hastily created? Also I wonder if the guy who had left his bag of fried chicken bones up there got asked if he was told to leave or if he ate his lunch prior to the motorcade and then went back to work? I always have wondered what the black workers in the TSBD had to say, because the only one I ever heard interviewed was Junior Jarman (I think that was his name) and he is the primary "earwitness" to hearing the shots from overhead and also hearing the "hulls" hit the floor. I never believed him really, because he was going to say exactly what the Warren Commission needed him to say.
Bonnie Ray Williams ate his lunch of chicken bones at a 6th floor window near the snipers nest until 12.20 pm when he went down to 5th floor in an elevator to join Junior Jarman & Hank Norman. Williams, Jarman, Norman, Arce, Shelly & Lovelady were moving boxes all morning to lay flooring on west side of 6th floor. They all made statements but nobody asked them whether they had built the so called snipers nest. Oswald was seen with a clipboard filling book orders on other floors and wasn't part of the flooring team.
@@buailebawns2162 interesting.
All legit questions.
@@buailebawns2162 Who staged those 3 spent cartridges? All lined up symmetrically
I read where it was just the power off to the freight elevator, and that the elevator was stopped at the 4th floor and that's why Dep. Baker had to run up the narrow stairwell.
Snipers or anyone at the time knew that if you don't want to be sighted you don't shoot near a open window, You shoot 10 feet back from the window at your target
That is true...
There is a video of n UTube a woman called into a talk radio show. She gave first name only. She was sitting in her car in the back parking lot of the TSBDP BLD. She said she witnessed 2 men coming out the back and got in a car and left. One man she discribed looked like Malcom Wallace. LBJ's personal assassin. (See RICK THORNE's JFK channel) he has amazing videos of the jfk assassination.
Velma. She called in to “Coast to Coast A.M.” with George Noory. I think about in 2007 or so.
Why would somebody go to the highest point of a building meaning the farthest possible distance from an Escape Route and a much tougher shot why wasn't he killed why he was driving straight on prior to the left turn if it came from the 6 floor
This new stuff I've seen is very interesting & I didn't know the power & telephones were shut off, this seems suspicious to me. First time I've ever heard this which makes this even more interesting, why this location & not other locations as the motorcade going through downtown Dallas before getting to Houston & Elm Streets?
Because Dealey Plaza is the site of the first Masonic temple in Dallas. And he had to be murdered on "Bloody Elm" & had to have the fatal blow to the head before they went through the triple underpass. Thus the car stop. Reenactment of the murder of Hiram Abiff. Shot to throat; heart [the bullet in his back was supposed to have gone to his heart; the trajectory was to his heart]; head. It was a 'Killing of the King' ritual murder.
There was a plot to kill him in Miami( home of CIA operations against Castro) 9 days before his trip to Miami but one of the secret service agents found out about it and Kennedy was never killed. The same day Kennedy made the trip to Miami, the motorcade route in Dallas was changed.
There is a tape of Joseph Milteer talking to right-wing unionizer turned police informant Sommersett in Milteer's apartment. Eventually he says that it's already in the works to kill Kennedy. He also says they tried to kill Martin Luther King Jr during a March over a bridge but he had too much protection. There's a pic of Joseph Milteer on Houston in the mix of the crowd with his arms crossed.
@Doug: Doug finds it suspicious when his pen is missing. Maybe Rod Serling took it.
@@MrOmega300 He was also supposed to be killed in Chicago, but cancelled the trip minutes before he was to arrive because of the threat.
the reason the picture was never shown is the same reason no video other than a video of a freight elevator supporting their narrative in the vegas shootings amazing that nobody says where are all the other videos
Jim Braden "aka Eugene hale Brading" was apparently also in Los Angeles the night Bobby Kennedy was assassinated.😮
Really I can't see anyone in that first window. It's such a tenuous try. Although the damaged negative is questionable as it is so vital a piece of evidence.
Agreed, though witnesses did claim to see someone or something there around the time of the shooting. Who really knows. Either they were smart enough to keep their mouths shut and died of old age or were all dead by the end of the day.
I’ve heard that between 11-13 shots were fired and that people assumed it was echoes because they came from all angles.
Sounds correct. I was told that a CIA operative dressed as a Police Officer fired off a pistol first, to divert attention and commence the actual firing at JFK from the different directions, and ultimately from the grassy knoll where the fatal shot was fired.
Most people heard 3 shots. Not sure how you turn that into 11-13 lol
From all I've read, there were 5 misses, 2 bullets hit Gov. Connally and 5 hit President Kennedy. Echoes would account for variations in the sounds and some weapons no doubt had silencers. RIP to the last great Democratic President of the United States (and the way things are going the last one we WILL have) and LBJ, Hoover, Nixon, Ford, Bush and all the other minions of satan are now or course enjoying the comforts of Hell
Connally was never hit...he invited JFK to visit Texas...LBJ's 👦boy!
@@johnpersechini4951 4 shots is what most people thought they heard. It was 11 to 13 in actuality.
I see lee Oswald aiming a curtain rod out the window.
I want AI to enhance the image of the guy standing behind the closed windows at the 6th floor sniper nest that Dillard shot, because it ain't LHO.
Would the Coke machine have still worked if the power was cut off?
Yes. Early coin mechanisms relied on mechanical operations. The only thing impacted would have been the refrigerated section.
Thats exactly what i said but i have used an old upright drink dispenser which only relied on the coins dropping that releases the drink you chose, then you simply slide it along and pull it up.
But i don't know what type okf drink dispenser was in the 2nd floor lunch room for office workers. Oswald and his co-workers had to eat in the first floor lunch room.
Yes
Yes, the Coke machine would have still worked to dispense the drinks. The refrigerated portion of the machine was not part of the dispensing mechanism.
You see, there was a time when mankind did not have to depend on computers. Machines were capable of working ALL the time. No hacking. No viruses. No stolen data, etc.
@@aaronpaterson1615 no, LHO had a choice between eating on the upper floor which is where he ate his lunch and where he later was seen drinking his cola or on the first floor which was known as the dominoes room.
Interesting synopsis. There's a good chance that some if not most of your conclusion to this cold blooded murder is accurate. Personally I believe that Intel Officer that was caught coming out of the Depository was one of the main culprits. BTW..the music was so frickin creepy dude..
There was NO "Intel Officer that was caught coming out of the Depository"
How far up your butt did you have to reach for THAT nonsense??
Ive read where the power that was shut off was on the basement floor, and that’s where Buell Frazier was having his lunch at the time. He is also the only one who was arrested for the shooting of the president and the only one who claims saw Oswald with curtain rods in wrapped paper. No one else did and no used paper the size of a rifle were found.
@@enriquemireles8947 A Presidential motorcade is going directly by the building that you work in AT LUNCHTIME and you sit in a dark basement instead of watching it go by??
What I’ve read not everyone at that building was watching the parade go by.not everyone was a fan.
My gosh, that first photo was totally demolished after they got ahold of it. What the heck?
The story about Jim Braden is interesting. Changed his name right before he came to Dallas. when stopped coming out of the Daltex building all he had was a credit card for an I.D. He was released, but it turned out he had a very long rap sheet.
Can I ask a question ? One window below 6 th story widow supposed shooter window , looks as if some one n window below on fifth floor how come no body has looked through windows below Shooters windows to see if possible better view and could of happened that way also ! People saying they saw people n the 6th floor ! Couple pic show someone sitting n floor 5 last window?
when I heard the background music uummm chills! O.O soo scared
Quite the eerie picture at 3:34 prophetic even. If you stare at these supposed people in the windows long enough you'll see whatever your imagination can conjure up.
Very interesting.
I cant see anyone with a white T shirt in the window. The imagination can see what it wants
You must be blind or have a really bad monitor. It is a clear as day. Looks like the first guy arrested to me. Look again.
And the closed mind can't see.
Agreed
You have to look at it (1:24) for a while, let your eyes relax. You'll see it in the enlarged right-hand frame: the subtle form of a man's head and face, wearing a white t-shirt. The man's head is tilted; it's not straight up and down. The white of the t-shirt blends into the white of the curved window frame. It isn't the sniper nest window, it's the square window to the far left (western-most) end of the 6th floor facing Dealy Plaza. The sniper nest was the square window to the far right (eastern-most) end of the 6th floor facing Dealy Plaza. All windows in between these two bookends had curved arched windows. The figure appears to be a husky muscular young man; my hunch is it's Oswald's body-double by the same name, the guy who ran down the knoll from the TSBD and got into the Nash Rambler that stopped on Elm St. minutes after the assassination. (The other photo's are much harder to decipher a figure or face at the sniper's window, but honestly, in 60 years I'm sure photo resolution technology has improved and they should be able to clarify that.)
Look again.
Arnold Rowland saw a man (NOT Oswald) with a 30 06 rifle in the southwest 6th floor window a few minutes before the shooting.
Warren Commssion Exhibit 363-
James Worrell saw a man with black hair wearing a suit run out the back door of the TSBD shortly after the shooting.(Also NOT Oswald).
@themeaningoflife38 Rowland's and Worrell's "stories" have been long-discredited.
I wonder if there is footage of who was on the front steps of the school book depository?
that area was the perfect ambush site- bringing the car onto elm street it had to slow down- then with the buildings and grassy slope with a fence and trees giving cover and getaway- the acoustics of gunfire could render confusion as to the direction of shots-the crowd could provide easy blending in as the conffusion and people running across the plaza to where they thought the shots came from.- the backdoors of the tsb were perfect for escape. then the planting of circumstantial evidence.
It was by no means perfect!.....but think about it...would any professional hit team want to murder someone in a public place, let alone the President?...only a wack-job like LHO would even consider such a foolhardy attempt....and he got caught, remember?....the cover for shooters in dealey Plaza was very limited....too many potential witnesses, etc....Professional killers would never try such a stupid stunt...only a weirdo would!
Let's not forget that Kennedy was a wide open target. ...Not ONE Secret Service guy was around him . The closest SS guy was in the front passenger seat of the limousine and he did NOTHING throughout the shooting. He remained in his seat the entire time as if they were out for a leisurely Sunday drive, despite loud BANGS of gunshots all around and Jackie screaming " MY GOD, HE'S BEEN SHOT ! " If he had immediately swung that car door open and jumped in the rear of the limousine at the first sound of a gunshot , there most likely wouldn't have been an assassination. The limousine was traveling fairly slow at that point and He could have easily reacted...He was even closer than Clint Hill was. If someone had approached the limousine the SS guy in the front passenger seat would have gotten out and restrained them ...I guess potential gun shots don't count. Very strange at the INACTION of the Secret Service .. I thought they were rigorously trained to respond very quickly if something like that happened . .When Ronald Reagan was shot , the SS literally shoved him forcibly into the limo
immediately ..Of course, in that attempted assassination , Secret Service was right by the president's side, something that SHOULD have occurred in Dallas. Let's also not forget that the SS was ORDERED to stand down at Love Field just as the motorcade was getting started ...Another very strange thing to occur, for sure. It's pretty much been proven that Kennedy never ordered the Secret Service away from his limousine . So, WHY , all of a sudden , was there no nearby protection for the president in Dallas ? You have to wonder !
funny the picture was "unfortunately destroyed" what a co-incidence
Not a coincidence.
Just as over 23 people were killed (mysteriously died) or disappeared, who were close to the investigation.
@@djohnson2194 more.
Excellent productions on JFK with hauntingly beautiful music
Hey Dan what up? Where you be like that?
How about a tunnel from the basement of the TSBD to the Dal-Tex building? Did they search the Dal-Tex building after the shooting...like the rooms with windows overlooking Dealey Plaza?
They made sure the black strip went right over the windows.
Here's a fact. There were many open windows not only in the TSBD building but all along the parade route. My old boss was retired from the Secrets Service. He told me that it was mandatory for the SS to go ahead of any Presidential vehicle in a motorcade to make sure all building windows are all shut. Strange enough that JFK was way out front in an open top limo with it's top down. There should have been two agents on the rear of the limo. They say JFK wanted it open but the agents still were supposed to be on both sides of the Presidential limo until it went under the railway to enter they highway. There was also two SS steps that retract under the limo just in front of both rear wheels. Why did the limo also come to a complete stop for a couple of seconds just when the head shot happened?
The President’s car did slow down but did NOT come too a complete stop! There are three different films taken at the same time from different locations in Dealy Plaza and all three films show the car slowing but not stopping! Enough with the constant lies and misinformation!!!
Barney Fife is a shining example of excellence Police Workmanship compared to this very poor example of every LE involved. Where was Barney when country needed him the most?? He sure could not do worst.
@wv171: The Barney Fife here is Roger Craig, but with the added element of mendacity.
So.... Bonnie Ray Williams was eating his chicken bones at the 6th floor sniper nest til 12:20 and the motorcade was supposed to be by the TSBD at 12:20 and Oswald was getting change for the Dr. Pepper machine at that time on the first floor ... Guess Oswald knew the motorcade was running late? ....Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles took the stairs from the 4th floor to the lobby immediately after hearing the last shot while Dorothy Garner stood in the stairwell and watched them disappear. Oswald never came down the stairs from the 6th floor. Garner is met by officer McDonald and Roy Truly seconds later and they had already encountered Oswald on the 2nd floor drinking that Dr Pepper.......and.. the elevator was stuck on the 5th floor and the power went out. Gemini Christmas.....and an Army Intelligence officer was stuck in the TSBD when the police finally decided to secure it? What jurisdiction does an army guy have in the civilian world? Don't see any military bases anywhere close to dealey plaza....hmmmmmm!
I think you have everything correct except the part about LHO getting change for a soda. I have never heard/read anything about LHO getting change. But this is a minor point. I believe there is ample evidence LHO was on the first floor during the assassination. LHO was seen by Baker on the second floor soon after the final shot purchasing a soda about 30-45 seconds after the final shot. However, to be fair, this "second floor" incident is sometimes disputed by researchers as a myth. I do not have any definitive proof one way or the other. Do you have any thoughts on this? As a side note. Williams went to the 6th floor to eat his lunch and watch JFK pass by. When this did not happen as planned by 12:20, he decided to leave and join his friend on the 5th floor. He left the remainder of his lunch in the so called "sniper's nest". Whoever used this "nest" to shoot JFK, if anyone, did not have time to build this hiding place. Those boxes were placed in that configuration earlier in the day by the TSBD workers as they prepared to lay new flooring after lunch. The 2 boxes seen in pictures as a "perch" to steady the rifle was later added by the police for dramatic effect. As was most everything else, the Sniper's Nest was staged. There was no "paper bag" found either in the this Nest. The sixth floor is a giant hoax.
@@timhawks6101 the receptionist made change for LHO so there is no myth. The woman on the 4th floor was not a myth either. Barry Ernest wrote a book on it. Sandra Styles, Dorothy Garner, Victoria Adams, and Elsie Dorman. The WC tried to say that Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles came down the stairs after Truly and Baker made it to the 6th floor and that is wrong. They made it to the lobby before Baker and Truly. Dorothy Garner was in the stairwell and encountered Baker and Truly. Lee never passed any of them. It was his only way down as the elevator was on the 5th floor with its door partially open with prevented it from being called to the lobby.
Lee said a black man they called Junior was either on the first or second floor eating.
The sniper nest was created after the shots were fired. The reason I say this, the boxes are not seen in photos before the shooting and during the time of it. You ask where did these shooters go? My suggestion is they went to the 7th floor and waited with either military intelligence or secret service badges. It took DPD 30 minutes to secure the TSBD and that is a loose description of secure.
The 6th floor was set up. People did shoot from there. The idea was to frame a lone individual for the killing. It is no coincidence that Lee had been to Russia, had handed out pro Castro leaflets. He worked for the 3 letter alphabet agencies (CIA,ONI) and as an FBI informant. The reason they used someone like him is so that if anyone investigated too far, could say, he has ties to Russia or Cuba and if we let this get out to the public, it could mean nuclear war. Plausible deniability in the name of national security.
What was LHO's motive to kill the president? That's right... there isn't one. There were thousands of communist living in the U.S.
The paper bag was made up to fit the curtain rod narrative. Those were never found either. The carcano broken down was too long to be carried in the way they describe Lee carrying them. Buel Frazier stated Lee had the package under his armpit and in the palm of his hand. The barrel is too long to do that.
@@fiddlefolk Thanks for the information.
@@timhawks6101 you're welcome sir!
you have very verry good eyes to see a person on the sixt floor after a view boxes!!