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literally the only good thing to come out of _Multiverse of Madness_ was that it exposed "wanda did nothing wrong" as _completely_ indefensible lunacy (despite briefly trying to defend it)
Yeah, but now people are flipping around and being like "Wanda being bad was the entire point", which...no no it wasn't. WandaVision was clearly trying to paint Wanda as a morally grey character.
Objectively the best part of Multiverse of Madness was Maulers review of Multiverse of Madness.
@@jeremyusreevu237morally grey doesn't mean good though. From the start she was portrayed as a traumatized person that does both bad and good things. Cannot talk about the series because I haven't seen it but yeah, her being morally grey so kind of evil, kind of not evil was always the point. Compare her to Tony who is morally good after Iron Man 1 but messes things up constantly.
Sheesh, I can't even overlook the way the movie tried to do it though. The way it was written into the script, even Benedict's reading felt like they wanted to get it out of the way as fast as possible. I'd take a retcon (looks like we're about to get one anyway for the entire villain concept) over defending the indefensible any day.
@@panonymousbloom5405 no one who actually watched wandavision would say she's morally grey. she kept an entire town hostage to the point where they wanted to die. they WANTED her to be morally grey but completely fucked it up.
"They'll never know what you sacrificed for them."
Oh boo hoo. Wanda has to get rid of her fake kids that didn't exist so that the people she literally enslaved could have their freedom back. Boo hoo hoo, let me play her a sad song on the world's smallest violin.
Lincoln talking to the slave owners: "They'll never know what you've sacrificed for them."
Wanda fans: “This is serious!”
The even more fucked up thing is, like did she even need to get rid of her magic kids?
They're made FROM HER MAGIC!
She didn't give up HER MAGIC!
Why CAN'T she just make kids that exist for as long as her magic exists?
honestly like cry me a river. aww so sad you can't enslave people to live in a fantasy world.
I can't believe writer Jac Schaffer thought that was a good line to be read a loud.💀
I loved it it when Fringy gave up on the video in the stream and said, "I'm just gonna play Mario Kart"
He's like, "I'd rather take a thousand blue shells over this nonsense"
“This is a meme I don’t care anymore.”
Hard cut to her choking the innocent civilians and an old lady says “just let us die”
Hard cut to a woman literally begging Wanda to either let her children come out of their rooms or to just let her hold them for a minute.
*_(The irony of this is completely lost on Scarlett Excusers.)_*
Someone else has probably brought this up before but there's an episode of Star Trek TNG where Picard and some other people get kidnapped as an experiment by some aliens. At the end the aliens say they didn't injure their captives so they did nothing wrong. Picard throws their argument in their face by trapping them behind a forcefield for a few seconds and watching them squirm in discomfort.
It sounds like Wanda is those aliens.
For those who read this later:
S3 E18 Allegiance
@@mustlovedragons8047 Mucho Gracias
The editor having deep contempt for the writer/host is the funniest shit
He is definitely a double agent. Especially if it's true that the same person did the script and editing.
I get the feeling the guys that made the video did the editing that way on purpose for rage bating. It feels like they don't generally believe what there saying but they know it'll get engagement it they say the most ridiculous shit while providing themselves wrong with the editing and that'll drive people to not only watch but comment aswell.
Wanda defenders are some of the biggest copers I've ever seen. Their arguments are not only stupid, but insanely contradictory.
But she's a woman and she's sad, therefore everything she does is completely justifiable.
They're just Reylos with a different mask.
Push the argument far enough and they just go "she's hot"
Best part is her actor is gone from the MCU. So you're defending somebody who doesn't exist.
"She's murdering countless people."
"It's fine because someone she loved was murdered. Haven't you ever heard of grief before?"
“Mostly harmless” is perhaps one of the dumbest phrases to use as a defense.
“Minimal damage” is fine when discussing a least worst option, but “mostly harmless” for a completely optional action means that SOMEONE GOT HARMED when they didn’t have to.
Wanda is "fiery but mostly peaceful" 😂
This would be like saying someone who cuts themselves is dealing with their pain in a “mostly harmless” way… the scale of “harm” is irrelevant to the fact it’s NOT GOOD.
Earth is mostly harmless...... Wanda is not.
Earth is "mostly harmless " ....... Wanda is not.
😂 I doubt this person would get in a elevator rank "Mostly Harmless"
The editor was like: "oh no, buddy! I won't let you drag my name into such bs without any input of my own. You're not Wanda."
What the editor did to the host is a greater betrayal than Brutus and Caesar.
@@nont18411"Et tu, editor?"
"Wanda Maximoff enslaved, brainwashed and tortured me, but she _did_ let me celebrate Halloween, so..."
"She didn't get to say goodbye to vision"
Are we all just forgetting their final scene together in Infinity War?
If by we all you mean the Wanda defenders then yes.
“It wasn’t like Wanda was hurting them or anything” Even the most well cared for slave has been wronged whether they live in blissful ignorance or not.
… don’t they literally beg her in one scene to let them go/end their suffering because her control over them is CAUSING them pain?
@@BigBroTejano She literally threatens to mind-fuck Vision into being more co-operative when he starts protesting what she's doing.
@@BigBroTejanooh yeah. You’re referring to the point in Wandavision where we figure out that Wanda has separated the children from their parents, and when a parent goes to her pleading to see their child, she eventually breaks down and asks for Wanda to end it.
Look, they're singing songs while they work in the fields. They're clearly happy.
Creating your own pocket dimension is literally the most running away you can theoretically do. That’s amazing.
you literally scape reality, thats the most 'running away' thing possible, there is nothing that can top that
"She deals with her grief in a *mostly* harmless way"
Rags: "what, on a cosmic scale?"
It's at this point you assume the entire video is just trolling. Imagine calling Wanda's actions "mostly harmless" in Wandavision.
Unless it's an April Fool's joke, there's no excuse for this. Best case, the author can say "It was satire," which is the equivalent of "I was only PRETENDING to be stupid" and therefore will not be accepted as a valid explanation.
"They'll never know what you sacrificed for them."
-Monica "Wanda Defender" Rambeau
Line only capable of being spoken thanks to “black girl magic”
What the writers could have done to make Wanda actually sympathetic or misunderstood: closing herself in a dimension created by her (maybe in a ghost town) and someone else if after her (Monica or Dr Strange) to free her from this dimension because, unbeknowst to her, she's causing some kind of problems outiside; but she made it in a way that the borders become "hostile" at anyone from the outside who tries to enter (like some lighting bolts appears to hit outsiders).
What did they do: enslave an entire town.
Indeed! Like Dr Manhattan when he spends his Time on Mars
The story was pointing to Wanda being under the control of someone/something else. It was really compelling. Then it went full iamverysmart out of nowhere.
1:43 “Healthy, and mostly harmless way.” Uh…
Thanks snapped half of all life, with the intentions of keeping world populations sustainable. You might say that Thanos coped with his problems in a “healthy, and mostly harmless way.”
One of Thanos's points was that the snap was supposed to be painless for those snapped. He absolutely would have called it harmless or mostly harmless.
Wanda defenders need to be on some kind of list.
They are on a list: 4th Grade English attendance (they're absent)
Wanda Stans are a blight because you know all Karens who didn’t know she exist until the Age of Ultron
The people who think Wanda did nothing wrong when mind controlling people think Ken was in the wrong for doing the Exact. Same. Thing.
Wait, I didn't see the movie, did Ken mind control others?
It's heavily implied. Because no woman would want to be a stay at home wife or wear a maid outfit by choice. It's the darned patriarchy.
It's okay when women do it... According to modern Hollywood.
@@jamessullivan9048If I recall it’s less mind control and more « « « brainwashing » » » (except not the kind where you’re forced into a chair or facility 24/7 till you agree with big brother, or bombarded with messages for years if not decades, the men just… Said it to them and took charge and the women were happy… And that’s bad somehow ?)
Men and women living in harmonious gender parity as God intended: "brain washing."
Abducting women in a windowless van and brainwashing them into militant feminism: "enlightenment"
Every day is opposite day when your ideology comes from Satan.
“Unlike Tony, Wanda didn’t run away from her grief. She created an entirely different universe to hide from her sorrow. It’s _completely_ different.”
"They'll never know what you sacrificed for them."
This just exudes the same amount of energy as a bank robber stealing from a bank and only returning the money back because he got caught.
Being a slave ain't so bad since he was unemployed before, and he got Halloween parties is a hell of a take.
Come to think of it, was he even paid with real money or "Wanda" money?
@giulizpaviz6381 An employee slave? I beit it was "Wanda" money.
@@blvalverde so he went back home without a cent. Thanks Wanda...
The only defense is a plea of insanity. There is no justification for these actions.
"What Wanda did was mostly harmless."
*later.....*
"Strange and Peter brainwashed everyone without their consent."
This guy's writer/editor set him up to look like an idiot, and I don't feel sorry for him.
However, arguably, what Peter and Strange did never harmed anyone except Peter. If people forget his identity, it only makes his loved ones safer.
He, however, loses everyone, and is utterly alone from then one. Wanda’s actions were for her alone and harmed others due to her lack of emotional stability and healing. Peter sacrificed his friendships and lost everything by now.
@@silverscorpio24 right, but remember, subjective feelings and ego is greater than real stakes to these writers.
Who cares about the trauma on innocents (which includes parents and children) when Wanda wanted to never lose her Apple Vision Pro version husband and children?
It kinda seems like he never watched anything he was talking about and was just the host of the show. That also makes the editor sabotage theory more plausible.
It's literally just because Wanda is a wahmxxn. People possessed by gynocentricism will excuse the hypothetical destruction of the multiverse before they would inflict a deserving punishment upon the wickedness of a wahmxxn.
Ah yes, Peter and Doctor Strange making everyone forget who Peter is is so much worse than Wanda trapping and basically torturing innocent people because a robot died.
If creating a pocket reality in which you recreate your dead loved ones and some new ones isn't running away from her grief, then I don't know what is.
"And is mostly harmless", is this excuse viable for slavery too? You know, holding someone against their will and forcing them to placate to the captor.
6:09 "STOP, STOP, stop, stop talking, stop with your mouth, Jesus Christ, f**king hell"
Not finished the full vid yet, but the fact that some people think she did nothing wrong genuinely unnerves me.
Waman can't do anything wrong. It's simple science, trust me.
@@WarsmithThanatos Sorry. You are right. I need to brush up on my media literacy
I’m with Fringey: that HAD to be an April 1st video. A giant meme. Surely.
These types of people are the same ones who've been trying to justify SS:KtJS rewriting Arkhamverse Harley Quinn.
there are people like them?
@@giulizpaviz6381 yeah. Seen a few people saying "the only problem with this game is the gameplay, the writing is ok actually"
@@MJelly-yj8kpFirst and foremost game journalists.
Wanda manipulates reality. If she wanted, she could’ve manifested NPCs.
The showrunners had her kidnap real people instead. A deliberate bad-guy action.
Because Scarlett Witch is a villain……
The first 5 seconds just hurt my brain so much I paused the video just to comment how insane that statement was. This dude is insane and then he killed me with harmless..f*ckwit she captured a town and kept them captive forcing them to play pretend for a made-up reality she wanted and how many people, innocent people she killed and you dare call it harmless ????!!!
Wanda didn’t run from her grief. She pulled everybody else into it!
This video had such perfect timing, coming out right before Wanda went from a world-class monster to a multiverse-cosmic-scale monster. 🤣
It’s like the editor was bound by contract to work on a video he found morally repugnant, so he did everything in his power to sabotage it.
You know, the whole "Wanda tries to steal another woman's children" plot in the film should have pissed people off when they remember she's supposed to be Magneto's daughter. So, ya know. Jewish.
Waldron accidentally made blood libel canon in the MCU.
It gets insane when you realize that the comics versions of the kids were actually created by Wanda using a shitload of magic to make herself pregnant, then stealing bits of _Mephisto's soul_ to give those homunculi souls, and then giving birth. All of which being an accident, btw.
So in other words, Comics Wanda had the ability to actually create new children outside of the hex. Granted, both versions would vanish if she cut off the magic animating then... But _the comics versions would reappear whenever she stopped using her powers for other things._
Meaning that, if these are analogous, MCU Wanda should have been able to simply recast her hex and get the kids from Wandavision back.
_Meaning Multiverse of Madness is even stupider than it was when we just looked at the MCU canon._
"Imprisonment is an injury" -Captain Picard. Back when writes knew how to write. Sometimes anyway :D
Every time someone tries to defend Wanda, they always shit on Tony for some reason and they can’t even do it right about Tony “running away” because Tony faced danger head on EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Well he always tried to weasel around it if he could, which usually blew up in his face so…
I love how this starts.
Hilariously contradictive😂
I hate this so much. Wanda could have had the greatest heel turn in MCU history. The story could have stayed 90% the same, with only slight alterations in ambient sound/visual style and a few line changes.
What a great twist it would be to find out Wanda is responsible and that GenericEvilWhiteGuy is actually a decent fellow just trying to do his job. It's the perfect setup for a major villain arc as Wanda alters reality as she sees fit
Woman must be victim.
If they stop they might realise bad people need to be held accountable.
I’m fairly certain there is a long history, even in media, of people who have suffered terrible loss or tragedy becoming consumed by a new “hobby” or interest as a way of distracting themselves and thus not having to deal with the grief their feeling.
That’s literally what Wanda did… plus holding hostage a few hundred, maybe thousand, people and children while she did so… actually, why did she even need the town? Why couldn’t she have gone out into the middle of the woods and created her fake reality away from everyone and everything?
Yeah, she can create her fake family, why does she need real people for her world?
10 seconds is all it takes for this guy to be wroooong
I'm a huge fan of wanda maximoff aka the scarlet witch. I liked her in the comics, I liked her whenever she was in an Xmen show, and I liked her when they introduced her to the MCU. Hell Elizabeth Olsen is like my celebrity crush and she could step on me for all I care lol
That being said....... what she did in Wandavision and MOM was absolutely disgusting and she needs to either go to jail or be put down. I may be a fan but even fans should have standards. She is a monster and she should suffer the consequences of her actions. Put her in magical Alcatraz for all i care
I am simply baffled at people who defend her actions. They sound like victims of an abuser. "No she didn't MEAN to hurt people! She was just having a bad day"
Having a bad day doesnt justify hurting thousands of people and threatening thousands more for your selfish reasons
I honestly believe that Agatha All Along did more damage to the fanbase than people are aware of.
Imagine it. The first Disney+ MCU show focusing on a major character from the movies. Hype was through the roof and the community was buzzing with excited fans discussing fan theories. The show was beloved by fans and critics. Everything looked rosie.
Then, the show literally told the fans that their theories were stupid, and to top it off, Paul Bethany (Vision) said in an interview that he thought the show was stupid and people who actually liked it were cringe.
Next thing you know, the channels posting and discussing theories had to deal with their own fans fighting in the comments about whether or not theories were cringe or not and... A lot of people just left the fandom. People loved making theories about what would happen next and hyping up their friends, but Marvel literally told them to stop doing that and made them feel bad for it.
I think that really cooled down the fandom for the MCU. The fact that afterwards they continued to have those "The MCU fans are so cringe," things in their shows definitely didn't help.
14:21 Speaking of Simpsons
Dr Strange: What happened here?
Wanda: Oh nothing Stephen, just a little incident involving my loss! Well none of this would have happened if you have been here to keep me from acting stupid!
"Didn't get to say goodbye to Vision"?? I guess she might've not literally said it, I don't remember, but SHE WAS THERE when Vision died! Throughout the whole process; I even remember her getting Vision's last words. She wasted her own chance, too bad!
It's insane how people will still defend a literal witch for slaughtering hundreds of people, including a superhero team, across the multiverse.
And yet John Walker is the bad guy for murdering a terrorist who killed his friend DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF HIM!!!!!!!
@@jeremyusreevu237 I did not like how hated Walker was. I understand some of the negative light case on him - Captain America is not exactly the sort of brutally finish off a terrorist in public that way - but at the same time, if Walker received that much hatred, where was Wanda's comeuppance?
I hate that the video titles on the wall behind him aren't alphabetized. Hell, they're not even close!
The people who defend Wanda have the same mentality of people in abusive relationships, and why they don't end when they logically should.
"I deserved to have my face broken because they were upset."
"I deserved to do whatever I want because im a strong independent woman. Not even reality can get in my way."
Alternatively...
I met a woman recently that defended Wanda's actions in Multiverse of Madness, because she was a mother that lost her kids.
But," I replied" she never had kids. Those were figments of her imagination and powers".
"Yes" the woman replied' "but her experiences were valid. And if my kids died I would do anything to get them back".
So woman justifies murdering an entire village of people who work to save the universe from magical threats, kills an entire superhero team, and tries to kill a child. To bring back imaginary children.
This is modern thinking folks.
The reasoning in favor of Wanda was insane! Honest to goodness pro-slavery arguments, complete with brushing all atrocities under the rug.
"Unlike Tony, Wanda didn't run away from her grief. She made a pocket reality where she could deal with her pain."
Didn't everyone in the town also feel her pain through her magic? This on top of their own personal misery (and trauma inflicted by Wanda) of being forced to do things they didn't want every moment of their existence while separated from their loved ones. That's like a mother tyrant who takes out her personal issues on her innocent family and emotionally manipulates them to keep them with her, and only her. But hey, at least she's dealing with her issues, amiright?
2:50 You know, I actually saw a person say something to this effect a while back. This was like 2-3 years ago on TikTok so doubt I will be able to find it, but they basically said Tony dying does not absolve him of his sins, and was basically just his get out of dealing with all of this card.
Does he want a "Sorry for saving your ass from Thanos" card showing up at the end of Endgame?
@@giulizpaviz6381 No clue. Also, just hit me that it was a she, and she has been basically eating up anything MCU related since Phase 4 started so make of that what you will.
@@AssassinoJaxon ooooohhhhhhh...let me guess: she has colored haired (blue, pink or green), big glasses and maybe a piercing (I know it's a bad thing to be this judgemental, but when the shoes fits...)
@@giulizpaviz6381 Fairly certain the only matching descriptor here is the piercing. Though if it helps, she is also black. (And I’m case you are afraid of things becoming awkward, I’m black myself, and I doubt you will say much capable of offend in me.)
@@AssassinoJaxon The skintone is quite irrelevant to be honest, I mostly noticed those type of mentality from people who wear certain things
Oh this episode was pure gold.
'Peter Parker is a selfish teenager.' No, Im done. This is a meme. It has to be.
Wandavision no joke was the show that broke me. I hated Endgame. I came to hate the Sequels after thinking about them for five minutes. But Wandavision and that whole _"they'll never know what you sacrificed for them"_ bullcrap was what made me start really hating modern cinema/tv and led me down the path to EFAP conversion.
Efap?
Yeah the crazy people running these shows overplayed their extreme leftist hands.
"Wanda didn't hurt anyone."
Woman trapped in Wanda's reality: "IF YOU WON'T LET US LEAVE, JUST LET US DIE!" :(
The worst part (maybe best on the flip side since she has no reason to return) the studio and writers wasted one of its most talented performers for years and then fumbled so hard.
As I commentated on the original EFAP, there is no way in hell that there aren't ***many*** children who died locked in their rooms without food or water because of Wanda, and not a single thought is spared to this by the show DESPITE specifically pointing it out as a reason for skepticism about the town by Vision.
Wolf coming through with the request. Right on.
But she did say goodbye to Vision. Excluding Thanos using the Time Stone, what was all that You can never hurt me, and I only feel you talk before Wanda destroyed the Mind stone?
Weren't the people in the town LITERALLY BEGGING her to kill them?
Nah, it's fine
I've actually enjoyed some of that channel's videos too, but now...man...there's no coming back. I never saw this live. Oooof.
When Hal Jordan tried to recreate his lost circumstances using the Green Lantern ring, not even using real people as his peons, that was rightly shown as his first steps on the road to lunacy.
"She did not run away from her grief, she created a pocket reality."
No wonder he likes Wandavision so much, his thought process is the same as the writers'.
I am fringy throughout this
Just in complete denial this is a real person saying this shit
5:26 She not only said goodbye to Vision. She mercy killed him herself rather than let Thanos take the stone. After that Thanos of course rewinds time and kills Vision to get the stone, but that's all post hoc. She already resigned herself to Vision dying and dealt the mortal blow herself. What are you even talking about "she didn't get to say goodbye"?
This is what happens when they adapt comic book scripts carelessly, without thinking about how their changes affect the parts they take wholesale. House of M does not paint Wanda as correct or justified, as far as I recall.
Wandavision killed the MCU for me. I loved the first few episodes and the mystery thereof. Once it became clear that she was an immoral monster, which the show tried to justify, I was permanently out. Should have made Mephisto the big bad…
Peter : Wants to use magic in a seemingly harmless to unreveal his identity since it's had a negative impact on the people he cares for
This guy : What a self centered douche
Wanda : Uses magic to deny reality and enslaves a town of people to live out her fantasy which is shown to be torment for them
Also this guy : I see nothing wrong here
Actually evil or rock stupid? Call it.
Exactly, and Peter's/Strange's joint decision ultimately harms Peter. He is alone now, without friends or resources. It was a double edged sword, and he cut himself on both ends to let others stay intact. Wanda... has no defence.
“It’s not like Wanda was hurting them” = Sure she mind controlled you to turn you into a member of her real life doll house, but how does that affect you PERSONALLY??
Ever since Age of Ultron I was looking forward to how her character would develop. She completely disintegrated the Ultron drones around her when Quicksilver died. We all knew she was going to snap at one point, unfortunately by the time she did the MCU turned to crap.
"Wanda has a sad and f's up everyone else because she can't cope" is the most comics-accurate thing Marvel has ever done, who's this guy kidding?
The funny thing about Wanda defenders is that even the people who created wandavision would disagree with them
"Unlike Tony, she captured an entire town full of hundreds of people and enslaved them to her will."
I'm fine with Tony running away, tbh.
When did Tony even run away?
He makes cowardice sound a lot more ethical, courageous and admirable.
Definitely an achievement 😅
@@mongooseunleashed He didn't. It's the premise of the video, and it's still a better alternative to what Wanda did.
"They'll never know what you sacrificed for them."
Who the hell heard that line and thought, "Totally."
Kevin Feige
I do have my issues with No Way Home. More than I did when I saw it. But Peter isn't Selfish. Generally. He could have made decisions that weren't idiotic in the film for sure. And his Spider sense could work more. But overall. The points that are being made against Peter here isn't bad. Most of them.
But let's be honest. Both Wanda's situation and Peter's situation were bad in their own right. The near biggest criticism for both is Doctor Strange. One he isn't in and the other. He's just turned stupid. Doctor Strange 1 has been the best He's ever been as a character. After that he was basically not done very well
All Wanda had to do was get Mating Pressed
Its crazy that they even tried comparing what Peter did in NWH to what Wanda did to the town.
For one, while neither case was exactly a good look on Peter or Wandas part, erasing the worlds memory of who Spider Man is doesnt really harm anyone in any way, life continues on like nothing happened. In Wandas case, people are actively being hurt and enslaved, some even wishing for death. This is also ignoring the fact Wanda was selfishly driven while Peter was doing it believing he was helping his friends
For another, the whole asking for concent thing doesn't make any sense in either case. Of course the evil witch lady was not going to ask an entire town of it was ok to enslave them just so she could deal with her own grief in an unhealthy way, who would say yes to it? In Peters cas, how would it have been possible to ask THE ENTIRE WORLD permission to just erase their memory of who he is. Either no one agrees to have their mind wiped, or they get their mind wiped so no one would care anyway.
She enslaves an entire town to the point of them begging her to just kill them.
"Healthy and mostly harmless way" isn't the phrasing I would have used but hey who am I to judge? After all English is my second language so maybe I misunderstood something 🤔
😂
This is comparing the world forgetting one bloody guy to enslaving a town to do your bidding ON REPEAT!!
I'm honestly starting to think TheMarySue website secretly pays him to say this stuff.
5:05
Yeah, she did not get to say goodbye to vision. What about the probably many people who did not get to say goodbye to their actual families on the outside? Those people who had family and friends die without them knowing because they were being mentally enslaved because someone was sad and wanted to talk to their imaginary friends.
Honestly the whole writing for Wanda became a huge mask slip for the “writers” at Disney
Cos they’re essentially saying “I can be as big of a c*nt as I want to, because something bad happened to me (imagined or not) and rather than deal with it I decided to make it EVERYONE ELSES problem”
And if you call them out on it, you just hate women.
Like No? Just THAT one.
This idea of Wanda being a tragic character, a truly abused and hurt woman, is senseless. It simply does not make sense. She subjugated many innocent, normal people (children and families included) to her own subjective, dark dream-scenario. This was all for her own ego, and inability to move on from the death of her lover. Her children were not even real people, but projections of the mind. Emotional harm is real, but the moment we become emotionally unstable and harm others, it no longer is suffering but rather the cause of suffering for others. Wanda is no longer tragic, but a villain. If someone commits a homicide at a venue, we may investigate motive and past - but no one should or could paint the culprit as a "tragic hero(ine)" or something similar. Instable, is the only word for it.
I think the attempts to defend Wanda - in both MoM as well as WandaVision - are for the same reason that Disney created those shows and the writers wrote them: to prop up the idea that a person who commits evil is justifiable or even heroic/deserves sympathy because their subjective emotional "reality" was not put under control. Now, if she did all of this, and they casted her in a clear negative light, perhaps with her realising her instability and rectifying it, I would have appreciated it more generally. But, the very magnitude of what she did is inexscusable. Many innocents kidnapped and controlled, many of Strange's allies brutally eliminated, etc. are evil actions.
As for many MCU (and Disney projects as of past 5-6 years) there were other paths, and better writing ideas, to continue the stories of characters such as Wanda. They are willfully ignorant and malicious. It is hard to believe that human beings can be this inept.
While I'm not going to say that Wanda purposely trapped a bunch of people, (or at least it kinda looks like she didn't purposely do it) once she figured it out she didn't immediately take it down and then complained that she was being treated badly because she ENSLAVED AN ENTIRE TOWN.
"Wanda did not run away from her problems"
_Cut to Wanda literally creating a bubble to hide herself from her problems_
Somewhat off subject, but can we all appreciate Wolf's "radioshow host" voice at the end of the highlights?
I remember this episode and the video they are watching he said that "Tony ran away from his problems" because he snapped back everyone and died :D
I find it funny how she just inexplicably unlocked reality warping as a power and could just insta-win on so many levels but instead opted for the more brutal and sadistic route.
Genuine question: given that we are most likely witnessing the full extent of this man’s reason and logic, how does he manage to take care of himself day to day? It must take him five minutes to figure out how to put his pants on.
Him : She didn't run from her grief, she only merely created a pocket dimension while holding several people as slaves/against their will within said dimension using her magic. All because she wanted to hold on her lover and have pretend children with him as they never existed in the first place.
Me : Er... That sounds totally like she didn't run from her grief and commit things that many MCU villains would disavow.
first 3 seconds made me spit out a coffee I finished an hour ago
Where was Doctor Strange during this whole ordeal?
He was busy being the wrong gender. Can’t have a man help or save a woman per the unofficial writing rules.
I guarantee you the guy is 100% serious.
1. Wanda didn't deal with grief. She ran from it.
2. Nothing about her way of "grieving" was healthy.
3. She didn't sacrifice shit.
"Entertain them with magic shows" is the best line I've ever heard. A+ writing.
God this is lile the "Griffith did nothing wrong" argument...It was a complete character assasination of Marvels part. But i understand the argument. I believe they based Wandavison off of House of X? And even in that story its clear that she did something WRONG.
I thought the Griffith nothing wrong was a meme and that it didn't happen that much but imagine my shock and horror while hearing the lengths those people go to defend a straight up ******
@@joaocarvalho6336the berserk community has some... interesting people in it.
@@joaocarvalho6336 Every ironic/sarcastic statement made for fun will attract people who actually believe it. Something something Poe's law.
I like when people can meme that "Griffith did nothing wrong."
I feel unnerved around people who actually think that this bastard did everything right.
It’s funny because they’re relationship was barley believable they only had one film where they’re flirting then fell in love off screen 😂😂
Calling what wanda did as "mostly harmless" carries the same weight as rioters burning down a city being labeled as "mostly peaceful '
I was just thinking about rewatching this EFAP. The best thing to come out of this was how it exposed these so called fans as frauds. Anyone who has been a longtime fan of Scarlet Witch, or even anyone who was a fan of MCU Wanda, would never accept what they did to her at the end of WandaVision or MoM. They completely massacred her.
What she did was wrong. We can say we hate this direction but if everyone in the show treated her like the selfish "villian" she was turning into, I, at least, wouldve been a bit more on board with whatever arc they took her on.
Wanda quite literally did EVERYTHING WRONG 😂