Red Letter Media Has Lost the Plot | EFAP Highlight
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Red Letter Media gives a limp defense of Star Wars: The Acolyte, yet another bad take in their descent into madness.
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Rags didn't do the Dragon Age comparison justice. Untrained mages run the risk of being a demon's skinsuit. Demons are a destructive force that will fuck over humanity. They live off of causing suffering. For the greater good mages are oppressed in that world. Is that fair to the mages? No, but when some people are walking nukes you don't get that luxury.
Connor and Uldred are two perfect examples in the game of how volatile the magic issue can get. The son of Arl Eamon and a high ranking mage both quickly drag their entire environments into death and chaos within mere days of possession.
There is sitll debate on whether or not the environment they are put into IS what leads them to being possessed more easily or not, but its true, they can be possessed by hostile creatures that will cause as much trouble as possible.
@@taddad2641 we know that all mages have a connection to the fade, so all mages can be tempted by demons.
@@zachrohler1047100%, but the question isn't if they can, but if the environment pushes them to that extreme.
Is the circle a good means to control the mages, or does it push them into such extreme oppression that they start to see the Fade and demons as a possible alternative?
Or would a balance of freedom and training ensure that there isn't any pressure to look towards demons as a means of quick power at the cost of not being able to follow a mages every move and prevent a possession before or soon after it happens?
As far as I'm aware, the demons don't have the same power over people as in the Warhammer universe where they can force a possession onto a psyker if their guard is down, mages have to actually let the demon in for the possession to happen.
For anyone that doesn’t know Dragon Age, the mages plight is basically X-men.
"Don't ask questions, just consume product, then get excited for next product."
They have become the very thing they swore to destroy.
Seriously... this is the height of irony right here.
did you people even watch their video? They dont particularly like this show, let alone the other stuff either.
@@Cargo_Baywe did. stop fan boy defending there bad take
@@frosty848 *their
I never want to hear "people are starving around the world," from someone who made hours of videos roasting every aspect of the prequels years after those movies were relevant. It's fine to not care about these things, but Mike is the last person in the universe who gets to play that card.
The way they portray a lot of the fan backlash as crying manbabies is disingenuous as hell too. Yes, some people are taking it too seriously or just farming the controversy for views, but there's nothing wrong with criticizing or mocking something as bad as The Acolyte.
You miss the entire point. They made videos roasting the prequels for money. You’re complaining about a show to an echo chamber of morons who gain nothing from this other than a false sense of intellectual superiority.
Relax. Mike goes on to make fun of himself and RLM by mentioning how granular they get with their Star Trek criticisms of the new shows.
Are you ok?
@@iamjurell This reminds me of that fat pro wrestling fan crying about criticism that it's fake by saying: "It's still real to me, damnit!!" 😭
@@jasper_of_puppets well it IS real to them but that shouldn't mean they can't consciously figure out that it's not *actually* real.
Dramas produce *real feelings,* for instance despite being fiction.
I just don't get why people are getting all soap opera about the RLM guys (who constantly and consistently say that they aren't particularly invested in Star Wars anymore and are more concerned with being entertained) being merely apathetic rather than frothing at the mouth spending tens of hours a week on every individual episode-- even with the Star Trek stuff they are pretty self effacing and would group episodes together and themselves point out that what they're doing is niche and mostly pointless.
I disagree with RLM on their takes and opinions all the time but I can't see how or why that should make angry or otherwise emotional.
Children in Africa have been starving for over 2 million years, while Star Wars has only been like this for a little bit...
*LET US HAVE THIS, MIKE!*
"My one joy in life is kids starving in Africa"
-boogie
@@yetanotherspuart3993BOOGIE NO
If they’ve been starving for that long, clearly they can continue to starve for a little longer while we wait for Star Wars to officially die.
That's what they get for being r-select hunter-gatherer commies.
Time doesn't go back that far. You were lied to.
It really baffles me how much spite they hold towards star wars and star wars fans, especially since they should know how this feels by now. If you changed the acolyte to star trek presents: the acolyte they'd be freaking out louder than anybody. But every single of one of their star wars review boils down to "this is dumb, you're dumb for caring, shut up rac*st"
The Ki-adi Mundi moment already happened and it was far more significant in Trek. Michael Burham is Spock's sister. Broke lore of a beloved icon of Americana.
@@dragonknightleader1 George Lucas 'broke lore' the moment he introduced midichlorians. Everything after that is meaningless.
Star Wars fans are stupid, and they care way too much about meaningless shit. It's time to grow up
@@jasper_of_puppets Wrong. Midicholorians are harmless lore building that didn't work out. Ki Adi Mundi lying about the reappearance of the Sith lead to Qui-Gonn's death because it was that disbelief that led to not reinforcing him when he asked for help.
@@jasper_of_puppetsCan the original author break lore or just build upon the lore in such a way it deflates the objects intrigue?
Man modern Star Wars fans just have no standards whatsoever. Just "Ooh shiny lightsaber *claps hands*"
Disney Wars fans.
"It's Red!"
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qxHe Vadered!!!11 😀
prequel fans
@@reek4062 I find it absolutely hilarious that you chose a eunuch to represent you online.
Not even Theon prior to all that noise, no you wanted the one robbed of all his manhood and independence.
They really did the "theres people starving, and youre complaining about Star Wars?" Im getting sick of this attitude towards fans that they are too much of a fan of things and that they are the problem, except when its something YOU like. The people that make this stuff use this sort of reasoning to write garbage.
I thought they were going to make fun of the start of the Acolyte show because it has so many issues, but instead they said it looked cool. "Just switch you brain off to enjoy it" was something I thought they were making fun of, not actually recommending.
They're asking 'why do you care?' The argument is ultimately a nihilistic one... an apathetic one. And remember, per Kreia, 'apathy is death.'
Yeah thats dumb but to say “i dont care about starving children in Africa” is insane i cant believe they said that and posted it
I mean they’re not wrong. This show is garbage and if you live your life consumed by the hatred of something so much that all you can do is complain about it, then you’re wasting your energy. You could be channeling that energy into something more productive yet you sit here and complain on the internet like a loser.
@@Go_away__ why aren't YOU doing something more productive instead of leaving smartass replies that don't contribute anything to the discussion?
you could've taken all the time and energy you're spending here to donate to charities that help starving children in Africa.
@@Go_away__ not true everyone has their vices mine is complaining about while loving starwars i still live a productive life and have other interests and hobbies im just more vocal about this one
I mentioned this in chat when it was live, but I'm convinced that the reason Mike is so weird about the recent Star Wars stuff is because he's built a lot of his brand off of the idea that the Prequels are the worst Star Wars thing ever. Instead of having to admit that the new Disney stuff is worse, he just upends the proverbial table and goes "YEAH, WELL WHO CARES ANYWAYS?! IT'S ALL STUPID NERD STUFF! WHAT ABOUT THE STARVING KIDS IN AFRICA?!"
It's so painful to see them like this, sort of like watching Joe Biden in a debate
He can't just say that worse shit came out and spin his brand into hating both like a normal person? What is he a brain dead egotist?
So, funny. People gaslight themselves for various reasons.
He’s a middle aged man who made those reviews more than 10 years ago
Despite me personally loving those movies, that doesn't change the fact that it is true...
This is a perfect example of an algorithm video. People see rlm+ Star wars, click on it. The actual content is at best vapid fluff, at worst questionable.
They did a whole video on errors in Star Trek Next Generation. Mike basically wrote a fanfic for a Picard series before Picard even came out. Yet they would make fun of Star Wars fans for doing similar
Потому что звездные воины сосут
"Who cares? It's Star Wars."- RLM
RLM: "Who cares? It's Star Wars."
Also RLM: *makes a 90 minute video convincing everyone how much they don't care*
The lack of self-awareness.
"Red Letter Media are the biggest disappointment since my son." -- Mr Plinkett
@@roaringsteelmediaI don’t think they hate it, but I think that’s what they did with the MCU (don’t quote me on that).
@@spiderleenieyou clearly didn’t even watch the video but okay. They made the video to point out how stupid and pathetic the discourse is around Star Wars as a whole. The franchise has ruined itself by forcibly becoming a divisive and toxic community of terminally online morons.
@@roaringsteelmedia I mean they are more Star Trek fans than Star Wars. I don't even think they ever like Star Wars to begin with.
But hey I'm a Star Wars fan that has opinions that run counter to the general consensus of what constitutes as a "Star Wars fan" like viewing Empire Strikes Back as overrated.
Despite liking the Battle of Hoth as a kid, coming back to it as an adult that has jumped into understanding military tactics and vehicle engineering in WW2 (you know that one inspiration for Star Wars) I find it one of the worst action sequences ever and why Star Wars can't seem to do a good ground battle outside of the Prequel era, and even then the Prequels are gimped because where Hoth sits chronologically.
And of course I really find most of the cutaway scenes to Han, Leia, Chewie, and C-3PO before they get to Bespin boring.
Now a reminder that the definition of "overrated" does NOT mean I think it's awful. It just means that I find its value not the same as everyone else, who just happen to be the majority. Empire on its own if you take it away from A New Hope and Return of the Jedi is just an okay film. And ironically I do find secondary material like the Radio Dramas help add more to them. But I figure RLM have issue with the Radio Dramas too considering their track record.
They [RLM] are as Normie as you can get for a Star Wars fan's perspective. Especially when half their criticisms for the Prequels can be equally applied to the OT, which makes sense considering both Trilogies had the same Creator.
I wonder why that starving kids bit reminded me of American Psycho when they're all having dinner, pretending to care about global issues. Probably because that scene is there to show how out of touch the New York yuppies are.
When they started going in on Christians and gay marriage, I was like, are these Obama voters and is this the year 2012? Seriously they must live in some kind of bubble.
Because RED letter media are ostensibly communist. Meaning they want everyone to starve except the party, they just get mad when it isn't their system causing the problem
That’s an unforgettable scene & so accurate 😂 but tbf I think RLM was just making a joke. Maybe it didn’t land well, but obv they’re not mocking ppl who care about scifi lore, since that’s the basis of their podcast
They're just making a point about how silly this all is in the end. 1st world problems when your biggest stress in life is your disdain for woke Star Wars.
If they were trying to make an actual point they should have also brought up the ridiculous ways the shills/consoomers/fans/media defend/praise this show. Hell, fucking SWTheory got straight up slandered by a freaking fandom wiki just because he voiced his displeasure of the show.
RLM has chosen to die on the hill of "the prequels are the worst things to happen to star wars ever" so now they have to justify why each continuously worse star wars product actually isn't terrible (despite the fact that most of these shows are just nostalgia bait for things from the prequels)
I guess so. I honestly couldn't think of a reason why RLM is attacking Disney Star Wars critiques and not disgusted with what Disney has done to Star Wars. Honestly baffles me.
Hated the dishonest take of theirs, "Some people turn those shows into a political battlefield"
Yeah, exactly, DISNEY did, fans are just fighting back, and why shouldn't they?
It's a shame they won't put the same level of scrutiny on other movies. They spend literal hours raging about George Lucas's dialog but when there is bad dialog in this new stuff they just ignore it. Maybe I would still be subscribed if the Acolyte had a 3 hour long Plinket review where they actually discuss the material. If they want to sit and rage bait, well there are a million other channel to find that.
If Their "analysis" of the acolyte it's an example of their reviewer skills, I'd then question the solidity of the infamous prequel reviews.
@@darthbiscuit um...they dont have glowing things to say about Disney era of star wars. Are we not watching the same things??
"It's so stupid that people get hung up on discussing media, which I am telling you here on my media discussion channel." ?????????
I know, right? EFAPPERs be so cranky about it.
@@jasper_of_puppets Then why have a channel discussing media if you hate other people doing it?
@@mlgrrd4718 Who hates other people doing it? And what is "it"?
@@jasper_of_puppets it refers to discussing media, my friend. The people refers to RLM. Any problems, buddy?
@@mlgrrd4718 Thanks for clarifying, pal :) RLM hates other people discussing media? Because they pointed how silly it is to obsess over what BBY Wookiepedia has Ki-Adi-Mundi's birthdate listed as?
"there are kids starving in Africa"... and how many of them could you have fed with the money that went into this terrible show with this level of quality that no one, who isn't getting paid to say they like it, actually like /s
About 5 considering how charities work but I see your point
@@daviddiggens8841 Some charities are actually pretty good at making sure the funds actually get to the people in need. If you want to give to charity there are ways to find which ones are the best.
Imagine how many kids you'd feed with 180M 😳 you could make an entire smaller nation into a pseudowakanda 😂
they give to charities so your point doesn't even hold up the least bit
And I bet the person charged with feeding them shares dna with Kathy Kennedy
"The Sith haven't been seen for a millennia"... but there was that guy... seeing as the Council were discussing possibilities when Ki Adi Mundi brought up the Sith... and trying to explain it away.
Ki Adi Mundi was having a Joe Biden in Episode 1 apparently it seems….
@@Ashkihyena Look, there was that, let me, my son uhhh... let me begin again...
I do not see how this can end without a giant jedi cover up. It's assassination of the light side of the force and morality as a concept.
There are a few things Leslie can still nail if she uses episode 6, 7, and 8 right... but at this point who knows if she'll even be able to follow through on her extremely straight forward set up. It won't fix everything, but maybe making Smilelo Sol's abandoned son would fit the theme of both this show and the franchise. Stuff like that.
The real question is: Can someone who fucked up Ki Adi Mundi's age hit her very simple narative beat?
I do get that people want to see Sith. So, if you are making a show where Jedi exist, you need antagonists. But at least write it better than literally including one guy that said "Yeah, Siths? Nah fam, they were never for 1000 years."
@@johnsnow04You could make it about the underworld, of a criminal group that is troubling the higher ups and using a Jedi who has no experience with the scum of the place, and pair them up with a bounty hunter or some criminal promised with freedom to guide them. Have them go through Coruscants underworld as two polar opposites eventually starting to grow closer and show qualities of their opposite partner. You don't need Sith to make it good.
At least they lost the plot, Disney Star Wars never had one.
They didn't either.
All Disney Star Wars has is ideology. The rest they throw together.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p THANK YOU!!!
You have never seen Space Cop.
No I have not. I'm not Tony Khan.
"There's people starving around the world." I guess there were no people starving around the world when Mike decided to be critical of the prequels. Cause if there were that would be an awfully cringe thing to say.
It's also funny coming from two visually obese people whose job is sitting around drinking beer watching movies.
One does not simply bring up Africa.
Thank god there wasnt people starving anywhere in the world till The Accalyte
"There's people starving around the world" meanwhile The Acolyte and Hollywood blow $200m+ on every project nowadays like that couldn't help world hunger. RLM are lolcows now. Complete out of touch hypocrites whose pop culture criticism isn't relevant anymore when people like Drinker, MauLer, Little Platoon etc. Exist. Ironic how they've been doing this a lot longer yet Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic have either more or nearly as many subs as they do. Do I sense jealousy on there part? It wouldn't surprise me.
The prequels were about 2 decades ago and the plinkett reviews were genuinely novel in format and content-- this is tens of years hence and it's a bit odd to still expect someone to spend 15 hours a day obsessing over every frame of every episode of the latest Disney product.
I hate the acolyte but I can tell you every single detail about it and spend a lot of time talking about it and thinking about it and watching multiple sources analysing it and...
Guys, why are we talking about the Acolyte? Poverty is coming out!
The Afrolyte
Pride month is over, Poverty can go back in the closet.
@@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese why am I not surprised to see that bigots are fans of these losers lmao.
@@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese why am I not surprised to see bigots being fans of these nobodies?
Why are you so pathetic?
They really turned out to be massive hypocrites and access media all along. It's utterly baffling for the to take this stance when the only reason anyone has heard of them is the "toxic" multi hour deconstructions of the prequels. It's a shame they won't do the kind of deep dive into dialog, writing, characters, etc. for any of the post sale SW stuff. They simply will not approach other work with the same level of scrutiny that they subjected the prequels to. Are they lazy? Are they too afraid of being called a mean word? It's probably all of the above.
It's a shame really. This video just exposed them as the massive hypocrites they are. Tbh this had been popping up in there videos for a while for anyone who has watched RLM.
It's unbelievable they have a patreon. They don't get to pull "Ehh it's stupid nerd crap who cares". It's their job that people are funding them for and the economy is really bad right now. There are mass layoffs and people are losing their jobs. Despite this people are sparing a few extra bucks for them and they don't give a shit
They also had dented takes for Joker 2019
But they have plinket reviews on force awakens and last Jedi tearing those films apart lol
Lmao, how are they access media?
RLM are soo weird "Prequels are the worst, George you know what our childhood" but then they give a pass to Obiwan and now Acolyte which are direct derivatives of the Prequels
Hypocrites, more like. Imagine multi-hour deep dive takedowns of Obi Wan or the Acolyte, just like they did to the prequels. How come they loved to tear those apart to an almost unreasonable degree but since then haven't applied the same standard that made them famous?
they dont exactly have glowing things to say about both of those shows. Did you not even watch their reviews of them?
Clearly didnt watch their review! Hating on RLM is ridiculous!
RLM said obi wan and the acolyte was super ok Hardly a glowing review
@@Cargo_Bay Where did you get that he was implying “glowing things” when the OP says “give a pass?”
I assume every RLM video for a while will have comments about starving Africans.
I know I'll be making some.
Me too.
You, sir, have inspired me to do the same.
Especially on their Patreon video. Oooooooh, the fucking irony of having a patreon to make money from talking about fictional media properties ... and then saying that people who care about those properties are stupid for not instead caring about starving african children
The "Just consume food aid and get excited for next famine" jokes write themselves.
You want to make starving Africans?
@@Phoenix0F8 looks like they deleted your comments. Pretty lame.
Why doesnt a channel called "Star Wars Theory" care about "b-roll african nation" more than the lore of Star Wars?
I guess he should change his channel name to Starving Children Theory. RLM would approve then.
why doesn’t star wars theory make star wars theories instead of pissing his pants every five minutes calling everything woke?
Or it's weird how SWT thinks a brother and sister tongue f**king is just good writing.
Imagine being an adult who cares about ''the lore of Star Wars''
@@crazytot10 why don't you get a job?
“The Acolyte is actually good”
Lol no it isn’t.
Remember when they did that “how’s it feel to see your favorite franchise” spiel? That’s how I feel like a lot of channels like RLM I used to like….
You either die a hero...
@@DaMaster012 Or you live long enough to see yourself become Schlurpo.
@@lordofthepizzapie9319 Darth Schlurpo…
even if you ignore all the deliberate poilticing and choices in the show, the writing, pacing, and characterization is garbo.
It's Glup Shitto isn't it?
the next Star Trek video RLM makes, i hope everybody comments "bro, theres starving people in africa"
I mean, we can do that. ;)
Go touch grass bruh
@@stellviahohenheimmaybe take your own advice, “bruh”
That’ll be hilarious
@@stellviahohenheim
We can comment that too!
A lightsaber is an omni-directional cutting tool. The blade has no weight as it is plasma channelled through and given form by a Kyber Crystal. The Kyber Crystal is imbued with the Force through lengthy meditations beforehand. These are the final steps a Jedi Knight takes to become a Jedi master by constructing their own lightsaber from scratch.
(P.O.R: Episode VI. Luke's green saber)
Lightsaber blades having weight was introduced as a concept by Disney and frankly misses the entire point of an omni-directional cutting tool. They've completely ruined lightsabers.
The reason normal people couldn't wield lightsabers used to be because the blade had no weight. The user would use the Force to enhance their senses and reflexes in order to track where their own blade was. If you lost track of that blade, you'd easily lose a limb.
Edit: Disclaimer. I am fully aware that this is not the case anymore because of the post-2000s canon and then again after Disney's acquisition of the I.P.
I thought making your own lightsaber was part of the final steps from being a Palawan to jedi knight (not knight to master)
Padawans need to build lightsabers while Knights need to past a series of trials to reach that rank.
and in the old based eu, there were Mandalorian who had killed jedi and fought with the lightsabers, but even with training they would only use them with beskar so that if they messed up they wouldn't cut themselves (and so that the laser guns wouldn't just kill them since without the force or space marine level reflexes deflecting blaster bolts is not happening on anything resembling a regular basis)
@emberfist8347 I'm referencing the pre-prequels E.U lore (alongside the deleted scenes from the O.T).
I kinda resent the post-2000 content, to be honest.
@@donovandelozier7156 Padawans need to pass a series of trials to become a Knight not just build a lightsaber.
Why does anyone anywhere even bother having a job? Don't they know there are children starving in Africa? What even is this line of "argumentation"? From their point of view, should all youtubers just immediately drop all their doing and go save the children? Not only is it moronic on every level, we actually have an example of a man who did go to Africa to build wells. What did he get? Endless public scrutiny and dragging.
You gotta be senile to think that appealing to children starving anywhere is anything even approaching an argument. There's so much to say that it stops being worth it.
I was going to learn a new language, but then I remembered that there are children starving in Africa.
It's something so out of left field and irrational to say that I'm not even sure it rises to the level of *qualifying* as a fallacy. It's just a complete and absolute non-sequitur, with bonus points of coming off as insufferably smug and self-righteous.
By that logic these guys should sell off their huge video warehouse and gigantic DVD/VHS collection and send the money to African kids. How the hell can they justify that video where they melted down all those rare Star Wars action figures in acetone when they could have sold them and sent the money to the starving african kids?
Everyone who preaches to you about how *your* opinions and your hobbies don't matter and that *you* need to be doing more to help with issues they care about- all of those people, if you dug a little deeper, have their own opinions and hobbies that *they* care about at the expense of more pressing concerns. We very quickly end up in fucking Bat Country once we try to argue that charity of time, money and even *opinion* is a moral necessity that's required of you rather than something you choose to give out of your own extravagance, without being pressured and prodded by moral elitists into doing so. Moral elitists who, I might add, quite often fail to live up to their own standards and end up adding nothing to the equation except guilt and pointless misery.
@@Phoenix0F8more often than not, the ones complaining are also stealing money from the charity or organization they represent lmao
@@PaulSimonMcCarthy-fu6ms
I was going to clean my room, and then I remembered there were starving children in Africa.
Why even wake up in the morning lol
Never forget the RLM hierarchy of relevance.
Star Wars > Starving Children in Africa > Star Trek
Sounds about right, actually.
I know you're using those as arrows, but it's sorta confusing considering they're "greater than" symbols
@@sammorin254 yeah. Confused me a bit too. Should've used "less than" symbol instead.
"->" ≠ ">"
@@CatsOverdrive Or switch Star Wars and Star Trek.
How dare you guys discuss Ki-Adi Mundi's age when children are being bombed in Gaza?
1000 IQ take.
"UNTIL WE ACHIEVE WORLD PEACE, ALL ENTERTAINMENT IS IMMORAL."
"You can't have opinions on entertainment products when there's all this shit going on in the globe!" - man who has voiced his opinions through several wars, conflicts, crises, and general shitty things for the past 10 years or so.
The bombing of maaaaanyyyy
What BBY Ki-Adi-Mundi was born in is a strange hill to get exploded on.
proving their point.
Its very obvious that Rich just hates the concept of the Jedi and revels in anything that makes them like bad people
If you watched the old Pre-Rec streams, the reason why is because he's an atheist and hates that Star Wars must be about the Jedi, whom are about spiritual enlightenment.
@Sterlingarcher365 Arguably Mike, I would say.
@@dragonknightleader1 Is that so? Wow. I mean, I'm an atheist, but I let that psychopathy die when I turned 23.
@Sterlingarcher365 Maybe a bit. He certainly goes harder on the moral relativism line.
The jedi are the least interesting thing in the Star Wars universe. I don't give af about emotionless space monks.
I'm starting to have trouble remembering why I liked RLM to begin with.
Best of the worst and the Plinket reviews, I guess.
Also, it's crazy how there actually are people that turned on Theory, a guy who was down in the sewers this entire time, trying to find a pinch of gold in this river of shit content. And for what, the fucking Acolyte? Yikes.
Theory was the Luke of SW fandom, trying to find the good while not coping too much, why to they hate him over the literally worse SW media ever?
Plinkett Reviews and the occasional Nerd Crew skits I suppose. Half in the Bag was some hit but mostly miss. Suppose Jay became or always was a raging leftards, and Mike just died inside and gave up, and Rich probably just goes along with whatever either one does.
@@Lampoluke A shame that some people online would dislike SW Theory for this. I remember some commenter online complaining about how they were grifting off of the negativity.
They stopped covering big movies in favour of niche content in half in the bag , and quitplinkett reviews altogether. Best of the worst can't innovate by definition.We are left with harmless re: view of classics and whatever this is.
That’s kinda crazy, their content is still great, this is just a weird area. I think they’re purposefully straying from the culture war stuff, as they always have. This shit is cringe, of course, but whatever, they’ve never cared about Star Wars or treated it with respect. It doesn’t change the quality of their other content.
They simple have become what they always hated. The elderly.
They have accepted that the franchises they used to love, left them behind. So now they just watch the pretty colors on the screen, and complain if it is too loud.
That’s John Connor? But that’s a different guy…
No they don’t. They invest their interests in actual good new movies and shows and don’t stick around to complain over and over with the same dumb points like these goobers
@@KRobinson-ko1ne ....batman?
My jaw dropped when the hypocrites said "Don't like it don't watch." RLM made hate watching and analysis the foundation and central pillar of their career! That and the starving african kids, and dunking on Star Wars Theory left such a bad taste in my mouth I honestly don't think I'll be going back to RLM and I'm a fan from when their first Phantom Menace Review dropped (Those early Plinket Reviews are still the best stuff they've made). Really disapointing.
I've been enjoying their channel less and less with the years and I think this just exposed why. Their attitude has changed. I think they got too high and mighty hanging out with all their celebrity friends.
The fact that they don't see poltical messaging as a foundational part of The Acolyte is another sign that they've really lost touch.
He’s saying there is Star Wars for kids, Star Wars for adults, and Star Wars for progressive SJWs.
Except Plinket’s reviews suck.
James on AVGN did it best and just didn't engage in the culture war at all. That's totally fine. But being a fence sitter like SFO is so cloying and obnoxious.
Best of the Worst is amazing and always is. Wheel of the Worst. Spotlight episodes. Real re: Views.
Stay the fuck outta politics, midwestern dads.
That was a decade ago dude, not everyone can stop growing up like the people in here.
@@Laneous14My problem is probably that I'm attracted more to their big discussions as content, the exact opposite of Rags. My wife really likes BoTW, but I haven't enjoyed anything as much since Plinket Reviews stopped- not saying I hate it, just not a super fan like I was of earlier. RLM hates people who feel that way- it's part of their lore. I enjoyed BoTW when I first saw it, but I feel like you've seen enough episodes you've seen them all. That's probably just down to individual taste. I used to really enjoy half in the bag but I reached a burn out point a few years ago.
RLM has a lot of bizzare bad takes. I had to stop watching them years ago because a lot of their critiques started being colored by real-life events and their politics. Their insistence that the prequels are the worst thing ever is just pathetic. Strange hill to die on but ok.
and they will never move off the prequels hill. ever. because that would involve them admitting they over exaggerated the quality of them.
@darthgamer9861 I completely agree, it's a shame too.
@@darthgamer9861 Bro, what are you talking about? They haven't talked about the prequels in over a decade.
Star Wars Theory tried hard not to give up on the Disney train wreck, and RLM picks on him?!
RLM see themselves as far more "enlightened" than Theory.
After all, RLM prefers Star Trek, and that makes them morally, culturally, and intellectually superior to anyone and everyone else, but *especially* Star Wars fans - as far as RLM is concerned.
@@TheMaleRei You hit it right there. The sheer amount of smugness that accompanies their videos is why I stopped watching.
@@Flayne009 It's kinda infuriating too. People like Rich think he's 'smarter' for liking Star Trek because Star Trek uses 'real' science. Except nothing in Star Trek is based on 'real science" at all. They took some concepts that sounded cool like tachyons or quarks or spacewarp and completely botched them. Star Trek is about as 'scientifically accurate' as Buck Rogers, it's basically space magic. Yet jerks like Rich, who probably learned everything he knows about 'science' from some Bill Nye tweets, lap it up and sniff their own farts about how smart they are for being able to appreciate Star Trek. If the sob ever watched B5, or God help him The Expanse, his head might explode
@RanMouri82 theory is the biggest star wars shill there is. broken clocks are right twice a day, you don't praise them the 2 times they're right.
@@TheMaleRei Yep. If someone points out how dumb it is to over obsess about a D-level character's canon in a mediocre tv show, it MUST be because they think they are better than you in every way. Those damn Milwaukee, Wisconsin elitists!!!
They always do this shit with anything new that’s political or controversial.
They always try to act like everyone else is being ridiculous and they always act like it’s no big deal to them either way.
But yeah, I’ve always said the same thing when they talk about “fanboys” being upset or talk about fans being “triggered” or whatever.
Mike made his bones doing hours long essays and going into the minutia of why the PT is terrible and why the TNG movies sucked then says people are just being dumb and reactionary because they hate Disney SW and the politics behind it.
They’re total hypocrites.
They didn’t hate the prequels or the TNG movies because of politics LOL. Don’t let it go right over your head man
@@user-dnf83n0s8sg9u l didn’t say they did dum dum.
Learn to read if you’re going to respond.
The "controversy" being lesbians in star wars
I can't believe Mike said "just don't watch it and it goes away" when 5 seasons of STD exist
5 seasons of STD exist because people watch it. Do you honestly think that they'd spend all that money on 5 seasons of a show if nobody watched? If you honestly think that, then you're a fool. These companies are in it for the money. If money isn't coming in, then they snip the product in the bud.
Meanwhile, back in Africa…
It's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
There's nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do
I bless the rains down in Africa
Gonna take some time to do the things we never had (ooh, ooh)
@@sclarin2hurry boy she’s waiting there for you (drum fill)
I love that I found this in the comment section. Legit laughing out loud haha
Imagine screwing with African lore. Or better yet, history, like pretending Cleopatra was black--oh, wait....
... every sixty seconds a minute passes.
I can picture Mike walking around, casually talking about differences in enterprise models to starving african children who look up at him like"Brooooo wtf, feed me."
Someone needs to greenscreen that.
I think one of the issues with RLM is how their worldview was so heavily influenced by the old Star Trek, where one of the bizarre notions of the Federation is "our standards of cultural acceptance are so low, we will tolerate basically anything". A people who obligate everyone to get killed as soon as they reach the age of 60? No issues with it, not even going to try and propagate our view on things. A culture of such strict adherence to law, even trampling a flower patch is a death sentence? We will subject ourselves to their legal system and risk the death of a child.
This is why they are so quick to accept the idea of "the Jedi are imposing standards" and "the witches have done nothing wrong". Because to them, in their Star Trek-influenced worldview, the idea of basic human rights is absent, and any cultural practice must be excused and accepted. They've got that Prime Directive stupidity.
In fairness, the death of Wesley is an acceptable consequence for breaking Edo law.
Seriously though, they do that moral relativism crap that I see in Gen Xers and it's more than just stupidity; it's a sign of permitting evil. Which we see in their hypocrisy like in their Picard season 3 video. The reason why they liked that season is because of memberberries like the Enterprise D doing a Death Star trench run, which is what they make fun of Rogue One for.
You both won the internet for tonight. Go take a victory lap, you both deserve it.
It’s seems to me like people like Rich as well as others from separate fan bases didn’t give the Jedi a fair chance
I mean you have Klingons with problematic culture that people like Rich will sympathize with(at least working them into the federation) but the Jedi are just child kidnappers that only aid the wealthy elite and look the other way with slavery
I guess we’re going to ignore the fact that republic effectively forbids slavery; and who maintains the republic?
Just remember to think of what's happening in the world and feel guilty 24/7, and don't have a hobby to disconnect from the world to stop you from feeling depressed. A non-argument to shut down conversations. I expect this argument from Jim Sterling.
I had a friend who couldn't understand the value of entertainment and escapism under any circumstances when the world was the way it is. I failed to get it across to her
What conversation did they shut down?
"don't have a hobby to disconnect from the world to stop you from feeling depressed"
if it's making you sad, get a new hobby. get some perspective in life and don't cry about something that has 0 impact on your life.
@@jasper_of_puppets none, they just mocked people who shriek about something being "woke" and said both sides of the extreme are retarded.
@@ThatBillmanGuymaybe you're bad at arguing or are misrepresenting their views
Don't forget: RLM were the ones who recommended JJ Abrams to work on the Sequel Trilogy.
As a director, not as a writer.
@@jayclean5653he doesn’t know what either of those entail
Yeah, too direct, not also, write.
@@greendalf123 I know. He still recommended him, at the end of the day.
@@harlannguyen4048 He's perfectly fine as a director. Don't be a clown.
The problem with RLM criticising Star Wars is twofold:
1: They have already died on the hill of the prequels being the worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars, and don't want to acknowledge that they're largely responsible for the attitude surrounding them and the approach Disney have taken when it.
2: They actively refuse to engage with the cultural reasons why most modern media - including Star Wars and Star Trek - is trash now, as a result they give superficial reasons as to why it's "kinda good" or "kinda bad" whilst spinning their wheels in the mire of corporate-approved excuses.
Literally over 40 mins of their vid that these clips are taken from EXPLORES the culture reasons why star wars is like that.
And imo the prequels and sequels are equally trash fan fic
The prequels are horrifically bad because Lucas did them without his team, RLM didn’t make the prequels bad.
There are 0 cultural reasons disney Star war is bad, it is 100% about corporate greed,
no political or cultural agendas or anything.
What are these cultural reasons then?
@@henrynelson9301 mike explores who is making current sci Fi aka star wars, star trek, etc. how we went from boomers to Gen x/millennials making sci Fi and how the political hot button topics of generations have influenced their art. Mike mentions how for Lucas as a boomer it was about exploring ww 2 and nuclear weapons aka the Darth star. Now the writers of shows explore identity politics and questioning institutions of power aka the Jedi. Again 40mins or more of the like hour long review was exploring the cultural situation of this show. He includes how star wars fans could feel like the creatives are agitating them. I recommend watching their vid. It's important to not take videos out of context and watch the original to see if you agree or disagree with the full context or
@@Arcexey Even if it's for money, there are interests funding them. Blackrock in particular which owns a lot of shares in Disney, and they have their own agenda.
RLM lost the plot when Mauler won the masses. Since TLJ, no more Plinketts on Star Wars because Unbridled Rages and EFAP won the crowd.
The only reason I subbed to RLM in the first place was for hours-long deep media criticism of the Plinkett reviews. They haven't applied that level of scrutiny to anything since. EFAP fills that gap and then some.
@@hastingscutoff1304 Well Rich Evans would also bash a game that he’s pretty bad at. #gamejourno101
They lost the plot well before that their Prequel reviews don’t work. They notably take a quote out of context to make the films look bad.
@@emberfist8347 Yeah their prequel reviews while funny especially TPM, don’t hold much water.
@@madcapmakov2 Thought it was Jack who does that.
As a big fan of the RLM channel I have to admit, I rolled my eye's up when they started talking about the political circus surrounding The Acolyte. I really wish they didn't make that video to begin with.
Same, I was excited for it, hoping they'd just talk about the bad and (if applicable) good in the show. After 30 minutes passed and they STILL didn't get to talk about the show proper, I just tuned out.
@@DoodsUnited but dude, I think less than 5 minutes into the video, they say that it wasn't going to be so much a review video as a commentary over the absolute meltdown that the fandom is having. While they did mention a few positives of the show, they didn't actually like it either...
Definitely a bad hill to stand on.
@@Herr_Affe From a certain point of view.
@@DoodsUnited thats odd. i thought their take on the discourse was more interesting than the show review itself
“Mike, you’ve made Space Cop!”
“Hey! Space Cop is the #1 film in Uganda!”
Did they forget about that?!
“I love space cop.”
Space cops is my favorite movies
Star wars broke RLM again.
RLM broke themselves
rlm has always been a mixed bag, their trek takes on ds9 (mainly) and to a lesser extent voyager and enterprise are abominable.
@@janehrahan5116 Lets not go to far, Voyager is trash and deserves to be shit on. I can get on board them being deadass wrong about DS9 and Enterprise though.
@@chasewilson3693I think Voyager was a lot of fun and more closely matched TNG over the DS9 format.
@@liptongtr Eh Voyager was ok. It was Star Trek through and through, so at least it has that. I liked it.
The guys (RLM) who made it the norm to complain about Star Wars on RUclips, and also pocketed a lot of money from doing so, are complaining about people complaining about Star Wars on RUclips. Makes sense.
They aren't the same, Mauler and Mike aren't the same
RLM actually did detailed breakdowns on why they thought the Prequels were bad.
They weren't fixated on some minor character's birthday and acted like its the worst thing ever because of it
@@loyalcompanion2104
"What's wrong with your faaace!??" and a million other things.
@@chrisdawson1776 That's called a joke bro. Its a recurring gag throughout their video
@@loyalcompanion2104 Was fixating on midichlorians, Jar Jar and Anakin building C3PO also a joke?
Two overweight, balding, depressed, going-on-50 dudes sitting in a room talking unenthusiasticly about a below average product in a series they never gave much of a crap about to begin with (and still very clearly don’t) is not a very pleasant thing to sit through.
I can feel MY dreams dying.
but remember, they view themselves as morally superior to you because of their apathy toward politics (even so much as having an opinion is cringe I guess) and caring about stuff *you* like is stupid because instead *you* need to care about starving african children... but stuff *they* care about is perfectly valid and Captain Kirk is still more important than the starving african children for reasons
Actually they did care about it. Rich in particular has read pretty much all of the books and liked the older movies. They are people that fell out of the fanbase after the prequels killed the franchise. Over 20 years ago.
@@Go_away__ Except that's gaslighting. The Prequels didn't kill Star Wars as a franchise because of all the books, comics, and games coming out during the 00s. Even ten years after the Prequels, LucasFilm was valued at $4 billion dollars which Iger paid for. The High Republic, at its core, is a plagiarized copy of Prequel era Star Wars. So to say that the Prequels were these terrible movies that killed all interest is just factually wrong.
@@Go_away__ "the prequels killed the franchise"
On the contrary, the prequels made Star Wars into a money printer while still gaining a lot of new fans. You're either a small child who doesn't know this, or you're just straight up delusional.
@@Go_away__ you should follow the advice of your name...
No fucking shot. I had no idea it was even possible to be THIS out of touch
Especially when RLM went world-wide for ripping the prequels to shreds.
George Lucas derangement syndrome is a hell of a drug
@@KneelB4Bacon I just...... it's wild to use the children are starving defense for nitpicking fiction..... when that's literally their entire identity....
I know, caring this much about someone's opinion on a disney+ show is pretty ridiculous
Aside from meme clips, I'm unfamiliar with RLM and it's not even their bias that's annoying me here, it's how they pull out that mocking tone when referring to Star Wars fans. Such a childish thing that I don't care which side of an argument you're on, you do that, I lose respect for you.
It's weird that they criticize a Star Wars lore channel in SW Theory for caring about the Lore lol
Anyone that runs a StarWars lore channel needs to get a real job and a life.
@@jayclean5653Why do you assume they don't?
To be honest, RLM has been on the decline for... a long while. Like years, at this point.
It's like that little fire of passion in their souls are long gone now. The same people who token the phrase about "consuming product" now just... not giving a shit anymore. Gave up. Go through motions.
It's one thing to live long enough to see the things you like being crushed by soulless ones. It's another to become one of those soulless yourself.
really? i perk up everytime a new upload drops.
Disney basically used every idea Mike and Rich suggested for Star Wars and it's been a disaster, of course they're going to hold back on criticism and deflect as much as possible
Blame RLM for Disney not planning a trilogy properly…. Sure….
What ideas did Disney take from RLM?
@@Dragblacker Not sure whether Disney did it consciously or not but Mike suggested JJ Abrams as a director and Rich suggested an idea that Luke has become a hermit who shuns the Jedi order
Not suggesting RLM should be blamed for Disney executing it all so poorly but just saying it might be why they don't want to be too scathing
It's like they are trying to come off like a passive aggressive Sweden. Sitting in the neutral zone poking fun without being labeled right or left.
Many such cases
The line, "There is no good or evil, only power." Is a line said by Voldemort when he was glued to the back or Quirrel's head in the first movie. In that scene he's trying to convince Harry to give him immortality by handing over the philosophers stone to him in exchange for bringing back Harry's parents. Something he claims he can do, but doesnt prove. This is the line that tips off to Harry that Voldemort is an evil S.O.B. and can't be trusted. How can Rich and Mike be convinced by this when an 11 year old saw right through the lie? Jesus 😂
red letter media the same guys who literally destroyed hundreds of vintage star wars toys in a skit mocking last jedi yet here they are defending acolyte and mocking people who care about the issue
Cry more about it, Jesus. Are you people really this sniveling about everything and everyone who doesn't share your opinion?
@@jasper_of_puppets This isn't about a "difference in opinion." It's about RLM just dismissing the majority of the criticisms of The Acolyte in a way that contradicts their own call to fame which was ripping the prequels to shreds
@@SeSeReRfRf oh nooo!!!
@@jasper_of_puppetsOP calmly states facts and you go into fake histrionics. Maybe _you_ should go back to consuming product and getting excited for next products.
@@TokyoXtreme Sorry, all I can gather from your response is: waaaaaahhhhhh 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
The "starving kids in Africa" thing is such a cliché that it's become what you say to mock whataboutism. And here RLM is using it unironically. Jesus Christ, it hurts seeing this being a long time viewer of theirs.
It's something the Nerd Crew would have done as a joke. This video just perplexed the shit out of me.
They’re trying to be neutral but it’s backfiring..
@TrueLunacy neutral? They're defending the show and openly mocked Star Wars Theory and other criticisms against the Acolyte.
@@8DarthGhost8 they’re joking about theory.. cmon don’t take it to seriously.. I do wish they spoke more on how bad this was made, from a technical point of view.. but I think they’re careful what they say now… Mike does say that he just wants good stories, and “doesn’t give a fuck…” about some of the politics involved.
@@TrueLunacy Yeah I don't really mind them taking the piss because that's part of what I like about them. It's just that it's such weak banter. I expect better from them.
it's RLM...where Jay said there was nothing wrong with the Leia space flight scene. They are fence sitters when it comes to fandom and think they are above everyone else.
Or do they just have different opinions than you?
@@TheDCbiz same can be said for this whole video, huh
@@tequilaghoul the people in this video have some of the same opinions as me. Some have different opinions as me. And I did like the video still
@@TheDCbiz Now where's the part I said I did not like something? Calling out their fence sitting doesn't mean I'm gonna dislike it.
@@tequilaghoul wdym? I NEVER said you dislike something in this comment thread I think maybe you are replying to some one else's comment. I did ask you if you have different OPINIONS than rlm's OPINIONS on the Acolyte?
“How does it feel to see your favourite RUclipsrs burn down in flames?”
“Feels great”
😂😂😂😂
RLM think they are above the current discourse it’s so pretentious of them they should never have made this video
E-FAP, Nerdrotic, star wars theory, the critical drinker, and geeks and gamers need to start a charity to help fight hunger in Africa now. Bonus points if they work star wars into the name of the charity.
That would be tricky on legal grounds, but perhaps they can call it "Force For Good."
Bonus points if they find a job
Star Wars actually does something of value for a change.
As I commented in their own video “you don’t believe a word that’s coming out of your mouth.” They really don’t. I think at this point they’re just trolling or maybe trying to get involved in the culture war stuff while acting like they’re above it. The way they talked about this show and Indiana jones is unlike the way they treat any of there media. They’re just being jackoffs imo.
The irony is a lot of the channels you idolize are just rage baiting
@@Fluffy6555 that is indeed rich in iron
yeah no shizzle these two middle aged guys are not concerned with being consistent on this channel that gives them an excuse to meet up with each other and screw around. Why everyone in this comments section is seething so much over this one is beyond me lmao
@@markusmath3421 I’m not seething. I’m just claiming they’re being disingenuous. You just want to believe I’m seething.
@@VinylMorpheus I didn’t say you were
The guys who originally coined the phrase "Don't ask questions just consume product" have unironically adapted that stance for real
They want the phrase used on THEIR terms, not YOURS.
@@DragblackerBoomers don't understand memology #35427
But anyway I wonder how many ESG bux RLM is getting
Or maybe star wars is a creatively bankrupt franchise and always has been and nerds crying over some character showing up doesn’t matter. Get a hobby bro, Watch the show or not who cares about this stupid lore shit for a disney product.
I saw the starving African thing, and immediately went "oh yeah this will be at efap"
I had a check on RLM's channel and realised I stopped bothering with them way back in 2020, or maybe even earlier. They just became stale and in my experience began playing it safe.
Before: why do you guys care so much, Spiderman is coming out soon!
Now: why do you guys care so much? Africans are starving!
Genuinely you see a argument in THIS bad faith from RLM and you will still want to preface it with "I still like their channel".
Dude's this is going scorched earth on literally every other media reviewer, including themselves.
They probably realize they got the idea for their channels from the RLM template. And RLM has never been about bitching about woke culture on several podcasts a day like this group up here, and probably wonder why all the channels with faceless avatars bring politics and culture issues into every review more often than not.
And they can’t reference hanging with celebrities when they have Chris Gore dropping hints about what a big deal he is in Hollywood.
So what?
I don't really get what it is Mauler is valuing about the RLM to be honest.
Is it simply sentimentality having watched their videos long ago?
@@MediumRareOpinions Or maybe Mauler doesn't dismiss RLM as a whole just because they may have a different take on the pervasiveness of the culture war surrounding The Acolyte? I mean, there is more to a person's identity than how they feel about thespian space witches.
@@jasper_of_puppets This isn't the first time RLM said something so utterly daft that even people who never watch them got to hear about it from a superfan of theirs.
I don't care about RLM, I neither like nor dislike them with any strong conviction. What people have seen fit to share of them, puzzles me as to what they see in them.
So since you're fan enough to dwell all over the comments fighting their corner, sell them to me. *Why should I regard RLM with anything more than apathy* ?
I still like RLM, but their recent Star Wars discussions suck so much lol
They care about canon, they care about story, character, production. They care about inconsistency. Unless it is Star Wars.
Then it doesn't matter, you manbabies care too much about this when people are starving.
Cuz Star Wars has been almost entirely pure crap since 1999. It really doesn't matter. One day you will grow old and end up in the grave, and Ki-adi Mundi's real age STILL won't matter.
Lmao, you've been cooking people. @@jasper_of_puppets
@@jayclean5653 🔥😅🔥
They loved Kenobi but hated the prequels. So hilariously inconsistent.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx Your inability to contextualize and understand RLM's view on Kenobi vs the prequels just underscores how much worse your opinions smell than the insides of a tauntaun.
So happy that the rest of the Acolyte review from RLM is just continuing to dunk on you losers lol
Did you even watch it? Mike flat out apologized and called himself a hypocrite, going as far as to use an example of how he'd get just as upset as Star Wars Theory when it's something Star Trek related.
Remember Lads Children are diying from hunger and your watching this
Today I learned I’m literally Hitler for liking shows
Maybe if Mike and Rich didn't eat so fucking much, it'd be less of a problem. ;)
How bout now Star Trek canon is that the android who replaced Picard after his death gets put into a younger body, installed with an AI that is created by some girl who's the key to everything, gets sent back in time & replaces the human Picard in the academy?
Now all throughout the series you know it's actually some robot whose every word & action is just programming designed by some Gen Z self insert character.
Oh, what happens to human Picard who gets replaced in the past? Maybe he gets left in a ditch somewhere or thrown into a sun. Who knows, who cares? He's just a vehicle for the new, IMPROVED canon to be established anyway!
The problem with trying to inject nuanced explorations using, the force, the Jedi and Sith and moral points of view is that, Lucas built "Star Wars" from the ground up to be a *CLASSIC* good vs Evil story. "Star Wars," is simply not equipped to do that on a mechanical level. So it can never really work.
Other franchises like "Star Trek," "Dune," "Hyperion," ect...do this but they are designed from the ground up to do so.
Kylo Ren stopping the laser bolt absolutely broke the force because he didn't actually stop the bolt, he held it in TIME because it continued on its track after he let it go and the implications of that are insane.
Yeah and while I like Fallen Order the fact they made stopping stuff in time an official power is an issue I have with the game (along with Cal not getting an adequate explanation for having to remember basic force powers like force grip and the 180 he does in the ending).
I loved that. Maybe my favorite moment of that movie. I understand it's a power scaling issue, but having that introduce your villain is great. Then, of course, they have him lose a lightsaber duel to a totally untrained girl and utterly gut his menace.
You can't have it both ways. Either Kylo is so powerful and deadly with the force he can hold a bolt in mid air as a flex or Kylo is a wimpy emo bully who gets rolled by Rey and cries.
@@Laneous14don’t forget the scene where he has a tantrum in his ship
@@Laneous14
On the contrary.
Disney wants it both ways.
Kylo is powerful, yet gets bodied by Rey.
My two year old son pulled his toy car back and released it today. I stopped it partway, talked to him a bit, then released it and its arrested momentum then carried it further along the table.
Am I a wizard?
4:48 You know what!? Let's do that! Just a massive compilation when they went nuts over lore changes.
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This is why I don't like Red Letter media. I don't think they "don't care" about Star Wars but instead they dislike it. In the Kenomi TV series the "positives" that they brought up for the Originals was that they are "clunky" and "cheap" for example. I doubt that they would say the same for Startrek. So when they talk down to other fans like this it's makes me just a little mad at them.
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My only guess why they would go out of their way is that SW fans vs trekkies thing which I tought was just a joke or overblowing something small. But from the looks of things it's not.
Scientist Man's recommendation to save Star Wars is to overcharge fans for everything. Why? Because Star Wars fans are dumb enough to pay any price. More hilariously, Disney actually followed that advice and made the Galactic Starcruiser experience cost $6000. It failed in spectacular fashion, much like Disney Wars shows.
This feels like the boys at RLM aren’t being too harsh on the Acolyte because they don’t want to be perceived as alt right in online spaces.
Thats my read. People are only this disingenuous when they dont want to be associated with the people who have the legitimate problems.
@@malzo1701Who has the genuine problems?
@@michaels5676 anyone with a taste for quality, unfortunately right now thats associated with the "alt-right" so they have to distance themselves from it, shit on their complaints or both.
I wonder if RLM is starting to feel uncomfortable with how many anti-woke people use quotes from their channel. I see clips from their videos everywhere like "IT BROKE NEW GROUND!" or "Just get excited for the next product."
It reminds me of how Looper had to take a swipe at Drinker and Nerdrotic even though they were agreeing that the Acolyte was bad too. It's this pick-me "we're one of the good ones" mindset.
Bingo. Before REddit banned me the R/EFAP or mauler or whatever subreddit had people obsessively doing mental gymnastics to say that Mauler wasn't 'right wing'. Mauler doesn't put 'right wing' stuff into his criticisms, but, come on, all the dudes he hangs out with are very 'right wing'. I have to put it in quotes because tons of these guys are not really conservatives, it's just they're not Chairman Mao which makes them right wing today.
Turns out Kirk's first commission was serving under Picard on the USS Defiant. It's fine. Memory Alpha was changed to say it all works.
No his first commission was under Ben Sisko on the KIA of Prey which Sisko used to meet god in the center of the universe and then blow him up with a karate chop to the face from his other mother-f**king pimp hand (the Defiant being his first of course) while quoting Moby Dick.
No, no.
You have to go back further.
Kirk's first commission was serving under John Paul Jones against the British...
His career continued all throughout, going even to serve under Halsey and Nimitz and then he took part on the first Space Shuttle flight...
Kirk is just that magical.
No no no!
UR MOM! 😡
@@Mechaman556 oops, now memory alpha says she was there too.
You cannot criticize a show.... people are starving in Africa!
I wasn't the one who spent 180million on 8 episodes........
Nice strawman. RLM doesn't say you can't criticize. They are just pointing out the inherit absurdity in being so upset about these kinds of first world problems. And the irony is not lost on them that they can and do engage in the same thing.
@@jasper_of_puppets Maybe if you didn't have blinders on you would notice how they go into autistic detail over errors in Star Trek....
But heaven forbit anyone complain about Star Wars errors..... starving people in Africa!
@wrayday7149 *don't criticize a show over fake stuff like woke agendas.* is what you mean to say. RLM has no problem with people criticizing a show over substance, writing, etc.
RLM is absolutely correct that all the anti-woke channels do clickbait anti-woke stuff that isn't helpful and just brings disney more viewers
@@wrayday7149 The point is that it's silly to get so upset over something like what BBY Wookiepedia has listed as Ki-Ati-Mundi's birthdate. Is there a little hypocrisy over Mike's poking fun at Star Wars Theory? Sure. So what of it then? Mike was hypocritical. Wow. What are we gonna do now???? If only he was as upset about Wookiepedia entries as the rest of us, there would finally be balance in the galaxy!!!!
@@Arcexey Maybe RLM is not correct. They paint the "anti-woke channels" as just that and dismiss any valid criticism they actual bring to the table.
Most of that criticism stems from stuff the creators of the show make in press tours. Hell, most of the channels tell you exactly how a race/gender swapped character breaks lore..... if you actually pay attention.
The pushback RLM gets over this is from people with functioning critical thinking skills and notice how disingenuous RLM is being. They unironically mock people who care about any show as much as they care about Star Trek.
But hey... it's nice to see people supporting a lady who set hundreds of women up to be graped and give money to a company that used Concentration Camp guards in their movie. Also giving money to "Doctors" to perform genital mutilation on children....... but starving people in Africa!!!!
RLM acting like Picard wasn't damaging to the brand and it's lore. Which they complained and dreaded, even offering alternatives as well. Kind of what Theory does in his videos. Most curious.
they hated Discovery and first 2 seasons of Picard.
@@Cargo_Bay And wrote a treatment for Star Trek: Galaxy, which is Picard fanfiction.
Going to war with RLM. You love to see it. These overrated hacks peaked 10 yrs ago
They peaked before than.
RLM/Mike made a sincere apology for the stuff covered in this video in their full Acolyte review today. He even called himself a hypocrite. You don't often see that these days, so credit where credit is due.
Good to know that RLM approves of children starving in Africa if there's ever any issue with Captain Kirk's lore! This one Star Wars character is non-important when children are dying, but Captain Kirk's lore is more important than millions of children!
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@@timewarpdrive77 Thanks. Felt that something was off as I was typing it, but thought that I had it right.
@@shanoc5902 They'd probably also care more about picard I think, but your point stands.
I think Strange New Worlds messes with Kirk's lore too. I know they messed with Spock's lore something awful and Pike's.
The problem with trying to force moral relativism into Star Wars (and Lord of the Rings for instance) is that both of those stories and worlds, from the ground up, were built upon binary good vs evil. Most of the time these overpaid fan fiction writers try it, it fails. You can inject moral relativism into the Witcher, the Expanse, and Game of Thrones far easier because those stories were built from the ground up to be more morally grey, which is in-line with reality, which they were trying to mirror far more than Star Wars or LotR ever did.
The Last Ringbearer did a decent job at introduced gray morality in LOTR.
@@chrisdawson1776 I don't doubt it can be done, just that these settings weren't designed for it, so making it work is more difficult, and doing so kinda grates with the themes. However, I'd argue a good writer could tackle anything and make it interesting, but those seem in short supply these days.
@@nicholasrova3698 If you're curious, the way The Last Ringbearer does it is by explaining that the original LOTR books were Elvish propaganda; it was written by a Russian writer and equates Mordor with the Soviet Union/Russia.
@@chrisdawson1776 That's kinda neat.
Yeah no, i have zero respect for anyone that needs to fall back on the old "there are people worse off so why are you complaining?" apologetics. Because not only is it a lame argument, but a hypocritical one at that. The moment its about something THEY want to criticize then that excuse goes right out the window.
The 30 minute opening to their acolyte review was entirely pointless bitching from them. It just makes me feel really awkward when someone is making vague passes at a broad community. Its like if you line up with any small part of what they say it makes you feel like you're being bitched at and if you don't then you just feel talked down to. Its a bad attitude to take and a bad way to talk with your audience.
RedLetterMedia's content outside Best of the Worst has gone stale. They're not fans of anything, don't look forward to upcoming releases, and deride fans for caring about things. Their videos are filled with lukewarm, clueless takes and minimal research, making it seem like they're just going through the motions for content.
Probably are at this point. I'm sure if this becomes your career you get burned out.
Jay is such a slug with his passive little hand wave and shit eating grin he does when writing something off and Mike is a straight up diva now. I miss Colin and Jim lol
You’re doing a bad job of not watching them.
"There are people starving and you care for Star Wars?"
There are people starving and you care defending The Acolyte from disappointed fans?
Two can play that game
The RLM reviews of recent movies kind of seem like they've given up.
I still like their Best of the Worst and Re:View series, though.
I literally said tis exact statement to my buddy after the ACOLYTE review
It really does seem lazy, when you consider how thorough the Plinkett reviews were. They went all-in on criticizing the prequels but have put the kid gloves on eve since. Imagine if there was a 3 hour long Acolyte review where they actually discussed dialog, plot, characters, etc. They are coasting.
BotW and Re:View focus mainly on older movies, so they can afford to be more critical without the same risk of losing access as if they criticized a new release.
@@brandonscott9747Damn, it's still all about corporate politics in the end.
Because they don't like modern mainstream movies and prefer to talk about things they like. Hardly shill behaviour.
This was a frustrating video to watch, and a lot of it for me was how fucking long Mike and Rich talk about race and sexuality politics because they assume those are the only reasons people don't like Acolyte. And then they talk about the show and it was just painful. Between this and their Kenobi review, my enjoyment of their content is really starting to come into question.
Why? Them having a different opinion than you makes you upset?
@@TheDCbiz take your head out of your arse and try reading it again chuckles...
@@TheDCbiz
This "opinion" they have here is boradering on insanity or senile state.
from now on every time Mike brings up Star Trek Im gonna remind him that there are starving people in Africa.
He apologized for that comment
They have connections to some high profile actors now so they have to pull the line. Shame.
Toe the line, but yes I agree
finally someone to call out red letter media for being dumb
@@xlmncopq You weren’t there during Obi Wan.
Why should I care about RLM inexplicably defending The Acolyte when there's a hole in the Ozone layer?
How did they defend it? They said it's average, and it's not worth frothing at the mouth in rage. Some things are better, some worse.
Surely the starving children argument works against star wars here. Imagine how many hungry kids could be fed with the $180,000,000 that they wasted on this trash.
After The Mando movie, Rey movie, Jedi origin movie, and the Dave Filoni "Heir to the Empire" movie have all come out.
RLM: "tHe pReQuELs aRe sTilL tHe wOrSt tHiNGs tHaT hAs eVer hApPeNeD tO sTaR wArS."
RLM would still be right.
@@reek4062 NO, you wish they were still right.
Mike gonna act like he didn't go WAY TOO HARD on the prequels to cause all this in the first place
Nope the prequels got what they deserved.
Talk about revisionism lol. These were the biggest Hollywood movies of that time. Disney could have planned their trilogy but didn’t. Blaming it on Mike Stoklasa is just SO silly
No, the Prequels are shite. Many bad ideas originate there.
RLM jumped the Shark when they had Patton Oswalt on.
I couldn't finish that episode. He sucked as a guest.
and he apparently killed his wife
@@andrewclarke1725 no he didn't. Bro that's slander right there.
@@thestonedgeek8928 no it's not allegedly.
@@ethanbradley2089 that is conspiracy theory bs. It's sicking that grifters took advantage of a tragedy to spread lies in order to hurt Patton's career because he's a liberal.
The absolute gall! They trashed the prequels for things like allegedly contradicting Yoda's character, even though they didn't (the OT established that all Jedi have lightsabers, building your own is a sign of completing your training, Jedi know how to use their lightsabers, and if Obi-Wan & Anakin fought in the Clone Wars there's no reason Yoda couldn't have as well), but then they act like The Acolyte suddenly making Ki Adi Mundi several decades older & arbitrarily turning him into a liar regarding the Sith is no big deal, and if you criticize it you're being ridiculous!
RLM has fallen off hard. IMO it's because they're trying to cozy up to actors and other potential guests currently working in Hollywood. Ergo why they're merciless when it comes to bad old movies but so hesitant to cut into new releases the same way.
Rich is just cringe now though
Rich is very liberal and that kinda clouds his perception of a lot of new media. He kinda got what he wanted from the modern age, but he can’t see that religion never died, it just got transferred to politics.
@@jaredarmstrong7403 thing is he's understanding the subtext of the show properly. you're supposed to trust the brown lesbian witches are good and distrust the white male-coded jedi. Total moral inversion. For the progressive bugmen out there, the show makes complete sense. For normal well adjusted people, we watch the show and don't understand why the obvious evil cult is portrayed as good and jedi are portrayed as morally dubious.
I think after Star Trek, Rich doesn’t really have anywhere to go. Star Trek ate itself and now there’s only old reruns of TNG for him to watch and imagine the world that was promised, but could never be fulfilled.
@@jaredarmstrong7403 It's shocking that he is. He was a blue collar guy in the midwest. How do you grow up like that and be a liberal?
It feels like this has happened to every movie review channel on RUclips except for EFAP and Critical Drinker
It's one thing just to make the "people starving in Africa" joke but then to take it a step further and actually show clips of impoverished people as part of a gag... yeah not a fan of that at all.
Lmfao fake outrage ? Yeah they really made the world a worse place with that joke. A lot of people are gonna feel the effect of this! Come on lad
The idea that these writers are pro individualism is maybe the funniest claim I’ve heard yet.
RLM is way better than any of these guys' channels.
That channel is for people like you 😂