Best Cordless Right Angle Die Grinder, Milwaukee M12, Ryobi One +
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2022
- Is the Milwaukee worth 40 dollars more?
I put them to the test, and the results are surpassing.
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It’s nice actually seeing that the disadvantage of larger size ended up having its benefits with more power.
Yep in this case its a big advantage!
This Ryobi is on sale at Direct Tools today for $34.99. Came across this video to see how it stacks... Bought one! Thanks! That M12 was like, "I think I can, I think I can 😂"
Nice thats a great deal. I love the Ryobi, just did a brake job with it yesterday. Milwaukee was a letdown, hopefully they make a Gen 2 maybe 18V. No problem!
Also thanks for your videos! I watch your channel for tool deals.
Yeah, I think it might be thanks to you that i just got it along with the 4Ah High Performance battery. Overall very pleased with it!
thank u ryobi for making the first die grinder to replace pneumatic. been wanting it as soon is it came out. finally a good video that cements its superiority, face it the junk ryobi hits. I got the snapo it's like the mil weak. in real world u want the tool that performs
Yeah I seen the snap on doesn't perform much better.
I could see an attachment for those smaller and tighter spots. Either an OEM or aftermarket brand will probably start producing them.
WOW! I am so glad I watched your video! Thank you for making it! I was all for Milwaukee products (because that's all I see, and friends own) and was about to start shopping for one, until I saw this video!! If I spent money on a "name brand" product like Milwaukee and it kept going into safe mode like that,,,, I woulda popped my top!! You all know how frustrating that is,, right??? YYYYeah,, the heck with Milwaukee!! You saved me from throwing another inferior piece of junk across my shop!!!! I lose more tools that way! :)
Yep the Ryobi is it IMO, Milwaukee stalls very easily. I just posted an updated video dyno'ing them and the data shows Ryobi with 2x the power.
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Since we utilized ryobi’s HP batteries, I wonder how the m12 would have performed with the HO 5.0 or 2.5.
At the same time, I wonder how the ryobi would have performed with a standard battery.
Great video!
I did test the Milwaukee in ruclips.net/video/_XUYeFqlLGc/видео.html with the HO's and didn't see much of a difference if I remember correctly.
Yeah it would be interesting how the standard battery would perform.
Thanks!
I have the Milwaukee in right angle and straight, it is a super handy tool, but goes into protection a bit too easy. Requiring a full release and repress of the trigger. I have learned how to use the tool and make the best of it, but it should be much better for what it costs.
Yep defiantly for the $$$, I like the concept and size, but the Ryobi is cheaper, way more power, has a motor hold button and only cut out on me once. This is one of those weird cases seeing TTI owns both Ryobi and Milwaukee. Hopefully they can make a second generation soon.
Honestly, I find it makes my work cleaner since the rpm of the tool isnt constantly changing on you causing the tool to slip, but it just takes a little more time. There is only so much you can ask from a 12v battery.
Milwaukee already makes an 18v die grinder. They just need to make one with an angled head
I’m very disappointed with my Milwaukee. I can’t understand why nobody builds a right angle plug in one.
i think its nice to have both. the m12 will get in tighter spaces
Yep I can understand that
I have the Milwaukee (and LOVE it) but I totally agree with the results.
Do you feel it lacking power when removing rust or using Roloc brushes in general?
@@MadLadsAnonymous I owned it and it overheats. Went through two of them and gave up. It was enough power for my application, but they overheat in seconds.
@@MadLadsAnonymous not at all, it's more than plenty for me. That is the exact use I use it for actually, cleaning up rusty rotor hats, steel tubing, my shitty amateur welds and many other surfaces as well as quickly removing burrs from step bit drilling. I also only use it on setting 2, 4 it's too fast for one hand operation unless you got wrists of steel. It's really great for cleaning corners and edges too where my 6" grinder can't get into. I much prefer the size over the ryobi gun. (I've never even swapped out the collet since first use so the lock mech adds little value to me). Also squeezing a paddle with your entire hand over a few mins of grinidnge = much less stress and better control than a finger trigger.
@@mediocreman2 How hot is your shop? Do you clean the air screens? I was outside in 95 weather installing my solar on my rv as well as fixing rust spots with it. Gone through four 6.0 batteries in a session no heat issues at all.
This is a different perspective on these units. I own the M12 angle grinder and it works phenomenally! I use it primarily for brake rust / caliper restoration and auto body work.
Oh, you’re not cutting rebar with your die grinder? Lol. Should test the tools for their intended purpose.
@@Sfhakrn it’s not powerful enough for that, it’s a small grinder used for basic stuff my friend!
@@harisjaved1379 Exactly! I was being sarcastic. You would use a cut-off wheel or angle grinder for this! He should throw a burr on it then compare.
@@harisjaved1379 it's not as good as the junk ryobi, just face it.. the ryobi is leaps n bounds better tool in this area. I still commend milwaukee for making the first
For simple cutting tasks would a die grinder be a better option than a rotary tool?
Yeah overall a die grinder would be a better option.
👍 ryobi got mine at Home Depot with the buy two batteries get 1tool free for $99. It’s worth it. The deal just came available.10/26/23
Nice! yeah its an awesome tool.
I have a workshop doing campervans and I've found that Ryobi stuff just doesn't cut it for professional use. I also found their customer support in the UK to be fairly useless.
The hp stuff has been fine for light duty professional work in my experience. I do a lot of electrical work so I don't beat on them but they are dependable
I was all set to buy the Milwaukee Die. But, thought I should do a little research into it, and find out if it fit the job requirements I had it in mind for. I saw a few Vid's of users drooling over it.
Then I saw your Vid. First, I had no idea there was another brand. Then came the rebar cutting. Without you saying one word, the reality kicked in that, the red one was not for me. The Lime green one......................... was. You Sir are owed a commission by Ryboi.
Also, I saw your comments over at the Torque Test Channel.
Yup, the Red Boys on the job-sites aren't any better.
There simply isn't a One Brand is Better Then The Others.
Anyways. Thanks
Yeah I originally seen everyone praising the m12. Then I tested it....just like the m12 cut off tool very poor performance compared to the rest on the market.
Got called a Milwaukee hater for my unbiased testing lol, few months later TTC did that video and took some heat over it.
I have been using the Ryobi and really like it. You are correct, currently no one brand is better over the others in every category.
No problem!
@@Tools-Tested TTC and Tools Tested are just doing their jobs, (Thankfully). That doesn't mean cooking the books to satisfy a bunch of insecure Red fans. I'm a custom Tile Installer. I have customers with high expeditions to satisfy. I buy by performance. I own a little bit of everything.
I'm also into Photography on a amateur level. The Cannon fanboys are exactly same. Nothing is allowed to be better then theirs.
I like the Ryobi but it's slightly angled upwards which makes it more awkward than the Milwaukee in tight spaces
Yep, I will normally pull out the old air tool for those right spaces.
My original m12 didn't have that sticker
I wonder how the high output batteries would change the tool
Yep, hoping to test that once they release them.
@@Tools-Tested So from what i read there are a lot of people saying that the overheat protection kick in fairly fast, but is this due to the battery protection system or the protection system that is integrated in the tool itself?
Im not defending Milwaukee honor because i own both. I do not use the m12 die grinder with a 3" cutoff disc. It was not designed to do that. All tool have thier limits. I use it with bur bits, stones. It performs well with bur bits, stone but definitely not hard wire brushes due vibration.
Yeah only used the 3" will to load the tool down.
Hoping to retest them on a Dyno soon.
in all fairness, could not the exact same statement apply to nearly every underpowered piece 'o garbage out there though?
Further the milwaulkee is significantly more expensive for less capability/power than the ryobi. So I'm not sure the argument that "it's not designed for that" holding much water.
Ryobi has 18v and the milwaukee is m12. Wouldn't it be better to use the milwaukee 18v?
Sadly Milwaukee only offers the m12 currently.
Wrong! They do have an m18 die grinder.
@@304290 not a 90 degree m18, straight yes 90 no
I bought the Milwaukee m12 stubby in 3/8 and 1/2. Amazing little compact tools. I them bought Milwaukee combination and ratcheting wrench sets. Amazing tools. After watching this video, I went and bought the Ryobi grinder. That thing is crazy. I just recently got Milwaukee extended reach high speed 3/8 cordless ratchet… and that this is super fast. But it has no torque…. Which is no good cause if it can’t turn a rust bolt or nut, then it’s not going to do anything for me. I’m looking at selling it and trying the Ryobi extended ratchet which all videos show it has some good torque at 55 ft lbs.
Apples to apples it is not, kind of lame to test it against a tool that is bigger and has a bigger battery. Yes, it was good to know that Ryobi is cheaper than Milwaukee, that is all I got out of the video.
I see the difference
I always wonder why there is no corded right angle die grinders in the market.
Yeah its kinda weird your right, there are plenty of straight corded ones on the market but no right angle ones.
@@Tools-Tested But the straight corded are enormous. It needs to be small and corded.
Same here. It's a true mystery to me. I have the Makita straight, corded version and it's great. I just wish I could get a corded angle version now.
Because you can use a corded drill
@@Jetski270 Not even slightly the same
That max rpm chart is a little misleading lol 4:50
Thank you! Was he trying to emphasize Ryobi being the underdog or something?
uh can you not just get an extension so you wouldn't need a whole nother tool sitting around?
Two things I dislike about Ryobi:
1. Horrible battery form factor = terrible form design tool (doesn't allow Ryobi to be compact enough)
2. Ryobi feels cheap made-in-China plastic compared to the other big three.
I have Milwaukee (90% invested + all the HO batteries), Dewalt, Makita, and Kobalt. Even Kobalt is miles better quality than Ryobi. Kobalt something goes on sale for as cheap as Ryobi and their in-house replacement with Lowes is quick and easy.
Also for this video comparison, nobody buying a die grinder to cut rebar. Of course, the HP+ battery beat the M12 battery.
So you compare the power between an 18v system and a 12v system I smell bs
I owned the Milwaukee and returned it the next day. The size is great, the compact head and small battery make it easy to get into tight places.
But it overheats in about 30 seconds. No, I wasn't doing anything challenging. I was removing water pump gasket material from aluminum. Probably one of the easiest tasks. I got a replacement thinking it was defective. Nope, same problem.
The chip overheats. I thought about keeping it and cutting out a breather hole for the chip, but decided to just use my air grinder until the industry could figure out how to make a right angle electric that wasn't a total POS. If you read the 1-2 star reviews, they all say the same thing.
I'm going to buy the Ryobi.
Yeah another let down like the cut off tool.
It's crazy seeing how both are made by TTI but perform so differently.
And here the Milwaukee is supposed to be the professional one.
@@Tools-Tested mine has been flawless, i only use the 6.0's though, have gone through 4 of them in a single session on a 95F day in a span of an hour no overheating issues.
Use mine all the time 0 problems!
Lot of butthurt children in the comments lol milwaukee has a tendency to do that to people. It's the new snap on
Lol you noticed that, man I took a lot of heat over this video. People act like I'm a Milwaukee hater, in other videos I'm a Milwaukee fan boy lmao I just cant win.
TTC did a similar video and lost subscribers over it.
Too bad the ryobi is NOT a RIGHT ANGLE tool. Not much different than a drill it seems
One of my least favorite Milwaukee tools.
Yeah it would be interesting to see if the new high output batteries will make any difference.
But as it stands right now the Ryobi makes it look like a joke.
@@Tools-Tested yeah I had the same thought. I do notice a decent difference on my M18 Fuel grinders (when cutting thick stainless pipe) when I use HO batteries so I’ll wait to see if there is any improvement to the M12 grinders. But they could stand to put out a Gen II of this little right angle with a few more beans.
@@blackjackfabrication4043 i think what most people want is an m18 angled die grinder. A 12v battery can only give you so much.
@@daxshell242 I have a bunch of M18 fuel grinders that I use in most places but the smaller size is what I need to get in tight spaces when building metal handrail or very small tanks.
@@daxshell242 I also have the M18 straight die grinder. It is too large to fit in most spaces but also it needs a variable speed option or at minimum it needs a variable speed trigger. Not often do I need to spin a grinding/polishing wheel 20,000 rpm. Last year they finally released an m18 angle grinder that has variable speed and I love that thing.
This guy is a Milwaukee hater.
Lmao, believe what u want.
I would advise watching all the videos before jumping to any conclusions.
they're made by the same company
Stop measuring with lambs and feet. Use metric system.
Are you aware that you are comparing a 18V tool with a 12 V tool...? Guess not. Maybe you want to get it right and use the M18 die grinder for a direct comparison with the 18 V Ryobi... That will also allow you to use the large cutting disks. The size you picked for the comparison is too big for the M12 tool. See manual. Cheers.
Wow ! . You right . I did not realize . Thanks Florian M.
This video erks me. Yes, the ryobi is great, and I will likely get it. But only because you showed me it was a decent tool. But you are lacking a lot of nuance.
A child could tell you the ryobi is going to be the better performer. 18V just gives you way more (50% more) power to work with than a 12V. Thats not rocket science.
But i dont think you are giving nearly enough attention to the weight and size. You look like a big strong guy, and Im sure you could go with that ryobi all day. But having a compact light tool matters to mere mortals. Im sure they could have make your pneumatic grinder more powerful by making it bigger, but there is a reason they kept it small. And you know what really helps you get into tight spaces? Not having a 1/2" hose sticking out of the ass of your tool.
Die grinders are used for hours at a time. Their bread and butter is to get into tight spaces. That overload shutoff is actually my favourite part of the m12. When you are grinder off a tiny feature with a pneumatic grinder and you start to over load it, the rpm starts to drop to nearly nothing. Then you release the pressure, the rpm kicks back to 10k instantly, and your grinder slips off the mark. Its happen to all of us. With the m12, it is constantly at 10k, unless you overload it, at which point it turns off and gives you a chance to reset. Im sure if you actually took the time to try to grind off some tiny features inside, say, i dont know, a die? You might actually find these things out. Instead of using a die grinder as an angle grinder, and then calling one shitty despite thousands of shops across the country perfering them over pneumatic.
Voltage does not equal power. Torque times speed does, and voltage times current does. You can design a 12v motor to draw more current and be more powerful than an 18v one. Whether a battery can supply that current is a different story, but don't assume the voltage tells the story, because it may not.
Do you identify with this Milwaukee die grinder and have trouble accepting criticism? This video was more than fair and when Milwaukee updates this tool (or comes out with m18) will you dislike it when it has more torque (which it inevitably will)? Yes, he could have also used the die grinder for it's other uses like surface work, but don't pretend like they aren't used the way he used the tool.
@@ccbowers it's true he didn't need to be salty, but he brings up good points that relevant to this review.
@@court2379 pedantry without substance. Is it possible? Yes. Is it practical? No. No modern power tool manufacturer is going to make a 12V more powerful than their 18V and that comes down to the cells they are using and practical constraints on discharge capacity. Being right in your comment isn't helpful. His point stands just fine.
@@plsreleasethekraken The entire size of the motor can be different. The voltage is anecdotal without other data. So it's not pedantic, it is completely possible the 12v out performs it (and would be heavier, but have better cooling). I agree it's likely the higher voltage one is more powerful, but the voltage alone does not in any way tell us that. You don't know the design criteria or what they did to achieve it. They may have decided the next model weight was a focus and made it less powerful. Also power probably isn't what matters here, but torque. Which also means the gearing plays into this. But again it entirely depends on the motor size and design. The 12v might have a lower top speed and still put out more torque.