Thanks for clearing up the collet issue! I had a heck of a time removing the carbide bit I used. Then I saw your video on the silly collet "non-assembly" and put mine together correctly. Perfect! It's a mystery to me why this is not done at the factory. It is far to easy to over look reading the manual, and the manual was punctured by the tool right at that section where the manual tells you to push hard to assemble the manual to the collet nut. Works fine now!
Very fair review, I appreciate and I'm sure others do too, you not just outright upselling this tool and overlooking its weakness' like other reviewers tend too do!
As a millwright in a food factory I have a lot of different equipment I repair and build a lot of custom “stuff” or modify “stuff” to fit our needs. Most tools we use are old fashioned plug in. We have cordless drills and impact drivers. Our cabinet does have a lot of cordless tools and my own cabinet have the straight and angled one. The straight is basically useless but the angled one have a small flapper disc on it and I use it for a quick deburr.
I found myself rebuilding a Cummins ISX CM-871... I needed a die grinder to remove several gallons of RTV before I in frame it, no gaskets, just RTV... I bought both the straight and angle Milwaukee units. The straight grinder was nice getting in behind the front structure of the motor where the angle die grinder would not work. As of now, I have been using the 3M Roloc Bristle Discs to remove the RTV from the block. I have to say, these die grinders, are the BOMB! Do not put pressure on these like you would with an air grinder, they will shut down, let the tool do the work. I wish I would have bought these years ago. If you find yourself using a die grinder, I would get both if you are doing engine work, or need to get into odd spaces. And if possible, stick with the 3M Roloc heads and tools, the Chinese stuff is hit and miss at best. As far as run time, and lack of a compressor for a proper die grinder, the batteries are inexpensive, I use the Amazon Chinesium knockoffs, you can get a dozen of them for what you would pay for a couple of Milwaukee batteries. Up to 9 volts, no issues. Beats the minute or two I would get with a 20 gallon compressor.
After doing a fair bit of metal fabrication recently, these tools are probably intended for material that's already clean and just needs some mild surface preparation or deburring. Otherwise, I'd slap on the ear plugs, kick on the air compressor, and go to town.
I pre-ordered mine a few weeks back and looking forward to when it comes in. Glad this review went well though, makes me feel good about the purchase. Thanks
@@WorkshopAddict Actually I think I figured out the issue. I was originally looking for 1/8 to 1/4 adapters, to use carbide burrs in my dremel. having not been able to find them, ultimately just went with a full-size die grinder.
Interesting little tool. I use my 1/8" rotary tool a ton, and it sometimes feels a little small for the jobs I put it up against, so I'm doing some research on slightly larger tools.
Thank you for the really helpful review, especially regarding the comparison to 18V grinders and pinning down where that tool is useful! My personal result is: get all of them 😍😅
Any time I can avoid pulling out a cord or hearing that GD air compressor all day is worth whatever it costs. Both of these are high on my to-buy list. I have found a second charger and 3 batteries is the best setup over bigger batteries.
@@TheLexiconDevilsI know your comment is 3 years old, but my favorite m12 battery is the new 2.5 high output. Still tiny and light, but more power and a longer run time than a 1.5 or 2.0. You can do a lot of work with a couple of them and they keep your tool nice and small.
I love my Milwaukee right angle fuel die grinder I use the 6.oah batteries on them I will be picking up this new straight die grinder thanks for the info
@workshopaddict, Great Video! I had to make a trip to Illinois last week to pick up a Truck for my Boss,and took the opportunity to stop in Columbus at Ohio Power Tool (awesome by the way). They didn't have them out on the shelf yet, but I was able to Sweet talk them into selling me one early. Love this Tool. When they came out with the Angled Version, I bought 2 of them right off the bat, now have 4. That way I can keep them setup with different attachments and abrasives that I use on a normal basis, and they are ready to go at all times. I was really hoping that they would manufacture a straight version and was very happy when I found out they did. I love this Tool, and the Angled version as well. Since I got the Angled ones I have only broke out one of my Air Powered units on 1 occasion. Since getting back home and trying this thing out, I have put 2 more on order. Milwaukee has really changed life for the better for Fabricators, Welders,and Mechanics with some of their new Tools. The M12 Fuel Ratchets are like gold in my Shop, along with these Grinders. Keep up the good work Brother!
@@WorkshopAddict 10-4 on keeping the Batts charged up! Me too, I live these lil Grinders, but I will readily admit that they are Battery Hogs. That's the advice I would give anyone when recommending these 2 Tools, is ti make sure you have at least 2 Batteries for each one if you plan on using it very much. I am fortunate enough to own at least a dozen, maybe even 14 or 15 M12 Batteries. I also suggest for anyone buying these to get themselves at least one 6.0ah Battery.
Great channel...between my Dewalt die grinder, m12 rotary tool and m12 right angle die grinder, it doesn’t look like a tool I need. I like my very small pneumatic straight die grinder much better.......👍🇺🇸
I think this was a great review it answered a lot of questions and I really appreciate it thank you for posting it. I think based off of your review at 18 V Milwaukee or possibly going over to the Darkside with Dewalt will be what I should do for automotive
Great tip my collect was stuck inside the shaft from factory and couldn’t figure how to take it off. I use the Milwaukee 6.0 battery with better results.
Sir you are the best I'm really thankful to you . you don't know how a big problem you have solved since you advise how to fit the color with the bold .I was in the same mistake and I can't fit the die in the grinder and I thought that I will return this die grinder to the seller. Once again thank you have a blessed day .
Great review!!! I have the M12 Dremel and it works well.Used it it many times without power around. There is also the cutout tool as well, but meant for drywall. Seems like there is a bunch of overlap. Every tool has its place and is a godsend when needed.
Trying to assess runtime in extreme use is tough and in this case caused us to use this unlike most will, but it showed power and resistance to cut outs.
Wow, had no clue about that piece sliding into the other! I have had my m12 90 degree grinder for months and actually have starting using it less because of how annoying it is to change the bits. Will be trying this at work tomorrow, thanks for the tip!!
With those connected, you can loosen the college and your bit should slide out. Without those two together, the nut will come off and the college will stay tight.
I have seen all of your videos and like all the reviews you do they really help me out a lot with purchasing new tools to update my setups. I have been a general contractor for years, my father started teaching me at a young age to work with my hands and I love it! I went to trade school for HVAC and I was in that trade for awhile. However, I do general construction from time to time and I have noticed that all of my tools are a little outdated and tired due to years of use. I have slowly updated all my tools to DeWalt 20v max and Milwaukee m18. My little brother uses all my DeWalt tool's and I use my Milwaukee day to day, I can say that the Milwaukee tools feel better and are much stronger than my DeWalt. Now I have one question for you guys I see in some of your videos you have a Jeep! I have a 2014 jeep jk 2 door. I was thinking of using my Jeep to tow a small enclosed trailer V-nose to set up my tools in and make like a small workshop out of. Basically can the jeep handle the weight? Or should I look for a pickup truck? Thanks any help would be greatly appreciated 👍 keep up the videos they are very informative.
Thank you for the compliments and for watching our channel. I have owned 7 jeeps over my lifetime, but only owned one JK, a 2015. That JK was an unlimited, but I do know the power. When I see contractors who have an enclosed trailer, they have some weight in it. More weight than they think. IMHO, being that you have a 2 door, this makes it worse as the wheel base is shorter and the tail wagging the dog effect would be worse. While I think you could use the jeep in the very beginning for short trips, my opinion is that you will need a truck very quickly as you will feel the lack of power in the jeep with any wind and the lack of towing ability with any weight. If you did go this route and use the jeep, be sure to add a brake controller to the jeep and get a trailer with brakes. It would be very unsafe to tow that without brakes as JK brakes are not the best.
@@WorkshopAddict Thank you for the information and quick response! I will take it into consideration when I am shopping for a trailer! I love my Jeep it is the best in all weather conditions! I used to have a 2005 Dodge ram 1500 with a 5.7 hemi that truck was the worst in snow and even rain sometimes, truck was a pig on gas, it also was the extended cab version and 6.5ft bed.
I bought the m12 rotary tool (similar to a Dremel) and I often use it at work to cut threaded rods, or other metal material at awkward angles. Compared to my corded Dremel 4000, the little m12 has no guts. It will cut things eventually, but you have to take it slow, not put too much pressure on the tool, out else it would die out. After watching this video about the straight die-grinder, I'm guessing 12v just isn't enough. It has to be an 18 volt, or maybe just a plug-in tool for any kind of heavy, extended work (not even that heavy)
I wish there was some testing with the larger batteries. It’s likely that the 2s configuration of the 4.0ah and larger batteries would greatly reduce stalling
Thanks for this review! I have been skeptical on these tools for my needs for aluminum welding and repair.. I have mostly dewalt stuff and it looks like I’ll be biting the bullet and getting myself a cordless die grinder
Could I replace my milwaukee dremel with this? that is has it the collets and such to also allow it to drill as well as polishing and cutting tasks? I don't trust the motors in the Milwaukee dremels, they are brushed and burn out.
I bought some china fandisks and the tool has a lot of vibration with them. Is this better with like 3m discs or is this expected? Because it runs super smooth without any accesoires attached.
good test with the manifold, are cut outs reduced much with the 6.0 or is it more tool dependent? you can get little flap disks that fit on that rolac pad aswell i like those for doing weld prep on rocker panels and unibodys where nothing bigger will fit but the sanding disks get snagged and tore up instantly
@@WorkshopAddict my made must of missed that, www.amazon.ca/Density-Premium-Zirconia-Grinding-Sanding/dp/B07H667TZZ/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=die+grinder+flap+wheels&qid=1581969271&sr=8-3 talking more this kind of flap disk, i got a bag of 50 for like 25$ ones linked are too pricey imo
Get rid of those little 2.0 amp batteries man, These tools have WAYYYY more power with the 6.0amp hour battery. Its actually crazy how much more power they have and how they dont cut out at all with the bigger battery.
I've got both and use the angle one for removing gaskets, and straight for cutting. I notice a cutting wheel makes the tool noisy almost like a vibration. Overall I'm happy. I have 4 batteries. Not sure why the different speeds because its variable speed so I leave mine on speed 4
The battery is a nightmare to install and remove. I purchased this tool recently. I love Milwaukee tools. I tried putting lubricant on the slides. That makes no different.
Lot of time spent running the supplied kit batteries which is fair enough, but downplays the significance of the battery choice. My M12 Hackzall is another M12 tool that calls for a lot of power, so a 6ah battery is what I use in it. It makes all the difference.
I found a Milwaukee drill for 40 bucks (12 volt) I had a couple batteries for the Hatchet so I picked it up. It is plenty powerful and handier to use than the DeWalt 20v max. If I need a die grinder, I'll get the 12v Milwaukee. DeWalt is just too big.
Saw another RUclips review in this same die grinder and it seemed to perform better at a lower speed. How have you felt the tool at the lower speeds? Less cut out? Better performance? No less on everything??
Wondering if this with a 1/8” collet can replace Dremel for home game? Just let out the smoke in my trusty Dremel rebuilding the adjustable pedal assembly in my newly acquired ‘04 WJ.
WorkshopAddict awesome. Just ordered the new 2 piece set from HD. Funny thing is, I put off buying the M12 die grinders for work because I have Pneumatics. The Dremel failure was the excuse I needed to take the plunge.
How do these new Fuel grinders compare with the M12 2438 polisher/sander? I have it and find it great for up to 3” accessories, but I can see where the right angle Fuel’s form factor would come in handy. The 2438 is a much lower speed tool so it’s likely got way more torque, but it’s an older brushed motor design.
I use the polisher and sander for small areas of buffing on cars with a small 3" foam pad. These die grinders do not have the low end grunt to do that. The polishers do not have the high end speeds these have... So, two different tools for different applications. I would never run a burring tool in my polisher and never run a polisher in my die grinder.
Having owned the polisher for years this beats it simply by having a standard collet for using ANY 1/4 attachment. That m9 thread on the polisher pissed me off no end.
I probably wont get an answer (Im late, I know), but for cutting sheet metal, which one would work? The 90 degree or the straight? A regular angle grinder is great but too bit for smaller areas and corners where Id end up cutting structural parts I dont want touched... Im also dealing with 10ga in the bed of this truck and its driving me nuts. Im about to junk it because its so frustrating. Thanks.
@@WorkshopAddict Thanks. I wish there was one more torque driven than speed, and small for those nasty corners (like in the bed of a pickup). I dont have air..well, I do, but my breaker blows at 80psi...its brand new, but my circuit is 15A so yeah...Anyways, thanks. Ill look more into the straight grinder. As a PS, I do have a dremel but it sucks. The blades go so fast, hardly cut, and all around a useless tool that cost a lot of money (I used them in the military but those must have been older gen, actual tools not toys for wanabes)
@@WorkshopAddict Yeah, I got two 6Ah from other tools. Its why Im going with Milwaukee, since I have the impact guns and stuff like that. Body work is new to me, so Im trying to keep things as cost effective as I can. Slower going is ok, as long as it does it...Dremel would have been ok if not for the expensive and crappy discs.
how does this compare to the m12 rotarty tool? I know its different arbor, and most likely less rpm, but is one better than the other, or are both needed?
@@TheLexiconDevils It's Chinese owned and made won't buy, SBD I heard is going to build here in the United States eventually cutting ties with China and making everything here Trump 2020
Bud, I went over all of this in the video. :( Three speeds ZERO to 10K, 15K and 21K. It has a 1/4 inch collet and I link to an adapter to go down to 1/8".
I became attached to the Dewalt 20-volt due to the feel and the way you can adjust the max speeds. I do not use the 18-volt because it is not as comfortable as the Dewalt. Comparable power, but the rest of the tool does not stack up to the dewalt, IMHO.
I purchased milwaukees 2 dremel tool and both motors overheated and burned out! Im thinking of using die grinder with the collet reducer and give it a shot.
Some have complained about the right angle and the battery life, but I love that tool and use it for so many things! Its awesome. Rollocs work perfect with it.
Just got this tool. I love it! Thanks for the hot tip at the beginning of the video. Mine came the same way and on my first use I was getting a little frustrated with the collet. I do have one gripe. My tool seems to have some flex near the top that is kinda concerning. Makes me think it's gonna break there at that seam
I've had the Right angle one for a long time. I don't really see where this one would be better than the right angle other than reaching deep into something. The right angle makes it so much easier to choke up and control in my opinion. Definitely a battery hog.
I chose the straight one over the angle for several reasons, it's really just personal choice. For me, I've only used straight grinders since around 1968 working in tool and model making shop, for several years in Honda off-road stuff, and personal home projects. Also used the Foredom tools for jewelry and fine metal working. But that heavy motor and drive shaft are always in the way, trying to push my hand around. This does the job but without all of that bulk! The advantage to a straight grinder is really, really fine control. To understand this better, picture a painter using a brush, they are never at 90% angle. For heavier work, say welding, auto, I'd probably select the 90% model. But then, all this is really the reason to have more than one style. You can never have too many tools in my opinion, each one doing exactly its job. Have to say, it was a toss up for me here.
I see these "die grinders" as not-crap cordless "dremels". The big question will be can we find collets, etc, to use the smaller 1/8" shank tools on the M12s. That said, I really wish Milwaukee had put spindle locks on these so you could change bits with a single wrench.
@@WorkshopAddict I guess I missed that. I'll have to bookmark that adapter though I'd rather see Milwaukee just make an 1/8" collet and include it in the kit.
great review ---- I expected the usual OMG its so amazing send me more free tools ---- With that said I have the m12 angle die grinder and I like it ---- if i was going for a straight die grinder id probably go for the M18 just because of the higher power it can give Great review keep it up :)
@@WorkshopAddict Same sentiment. This is how tool reviews should be done. No BS no hype just be informative. I just bought the M18 drill/Driver combo and it cam with an M12/2A battery. So I am lookin for something to power with it. This is one of my options and I need to hear information not hype.
Thanks for clearing up the collet issue! I had a heck of a time removing the carbide bit I used. Then I saw your video on the silly collet "non-assembly" and put mine together correctly. Perfect! It's a mystery to me why this is not done at the factory. It is far to easy to over look reading the manual, and the manual was punctured by the tool right at that section where the manual tells you to push hard to assemble the manual to the collet nut. Works fine now!
I missed that and can't find a collet video. I'm really struggling to get a ¼" shank wire brush into this collet. Any tips?
Very fair review, I appreciate and I'm sure others do too, you not just outright upselling this tool and overlooking its weakness' like other reviewers tend too do!
As a millwright in a food factory I have a lot of different equipment I repair and build a lot of custom “stuff” or modify “stuff” to fit our needs. Most tools we use are old fashioned plug in. We have cordless drills and impact drivers. Our cabinet does have a lot of cordless tools and my own cabinet have the straight and angled one. The straight is basically useless but the angled one have a small flapper disc on it and I use it for a quick deburr.
I found myself rebuilding a Cummins ISX CM-871... I needed a die grinder to remove several gallons of RTV before I in frame it, no gaskets, just RTV... I bought both the straight and angle Milwaukee units. The straight grinder was nice getting in behind the front structure of the motor where the angle die grinder would not work. As of now, I have been using the 3M Roloc Bristle Discs to remove the RTV from the block. I have to say, these die grinders, are the BOMB! Do not put pressure on these like you would with an air grinder, they will shut down, let the tool do the work. I wish I would have bought these years ago. If you find yourself using a die grinder, I would get both if you are doing engine work, or need to get into odd spaces. And if possible, stick with the 3M Roloc heads and tools, the Chinese stuff is hit and miss at best. As far as run time, and lack of a compressor for a proper die grinder, the batteries are inexpensive, I use the Amazon Chinesium knockoffs, you can get a dozen of them for what you would pay for a couple of Milwaukee batteries. Up to 9 volts, no issues. Beats the minute or two I would get with a 20 gallon compressor.
Can't thank you enough for the first comment about the collet being connected. Mine was shipped in two pieces and I thought it was broken.
Glad to help
After doing a fair bit of metal fabrication recently, these tools are probably intended for material that's already clean and just needs some mild surface preparation or deburring. Otherwise, I'd slap on the ear plugs, kick on the air compressor, and go to town.
Nice review! A lot of these tools should be coming with the CP 3.0 in my opinion.
I went to 6ah on all my m12 stuff. Was well worth it
They will never use the best batteries in any kit less than the 12ah and MX stuff
Yes sir, I bough mine a month ago. This tool is good for small out on the junkyard job. I like it, but the battery and auto shut off is very annoying.
I read that as C3PO.
@@andres99house I zip tie the “safety lock” with a small black zip tie
I pre-ordered mine a few weeks back and looking forward to when it comes in. Glad this review went well though, makes me feel good about the purchase. Thanks
IMHO, this is awesome for tight spaces! You will love it.
I don't know why I was never able to find 1/4 to 1/8 collet adapters before, but thanks for reminding me! And they do exist now..
Glad to help!
@@WorkshopAddict Actually I think I figured out the issue. I was originally looking for 1/8 to 1/4 adapters, to use carbide burrs in my dremel. having not been able to find them, ultimately just went with a full-size die grinder.
Interesting little tool. I use my 1/8" rotary tool a ton, and it sometimes feels a little small for the jobs I put it up against, so I'm doing some research on slightly larger tools.
I use the 18 volt version to clean out welds where regular grinder won't fit. Great tool wish it had a light though
Thank you for the really helpful review, especially regarding the comparison to 18V grinders and pinning down where that tool is useful!
My personal result is: get all of them 😍😅
Any time I can avoid pulling out a cord or hearing that GD air compressor all day is worth whatever it costs. Both of these are high on my to-buy list. I have found a second charger and 3 batteries is the best setup over bigger batteries.
I used to subscribe to this way of thinking. The amount of runtime on m12 fuel stuff with 6ah batteries will change your mind though.
@@TheLexiconDevils Il have to try it out now that 6ah have come down to a reasonable price.
@@TheLexiconDevilsI know your comment is 3 years old, but my favorite m12 battery is the new 2.5 high output. Still tiny and light, but more power and a longer run time than a 1.5 or 2.0. You can do a lot of work with a couple of them and they keep your tool nice and small.
I love my Milwaukee right angle fuel die grinder I use the 6.oah batteries on them I will be picking up this new straight die grinder thanks for the info
How does this compare to the M12 rotary tool as far as power? I have the rotary tool and want to know if adding this tool is worth it.
@workshopaddict, Great Video! I had to make a trip to Illinois last week to pick up a Truck for my Boss,and took the opportunity to stop in Columbus at Ohio Power Tool (awesome by the way).
They didn't have them out on the shelf yet, but I was able to Sweet talk them into selling me one early. Love this Tool. When they came out with the Angled Version, I bought 2 of them right off the bat, now have 4. That way I can keep them setup with different attachments and abrasives that I use on a normal basis, and they are ready to go at all times. I was really hoping that they would manufacture a straight version and was very happy when I found out they did.
I love this Tool, and the Angled version as well.
Since I got the Angled ones I have only broke out one of my Air Powered units on 1 occasion.
Since getting back home and trying this thing out, I have put 2 more on order. Milwaukee has really changed life for the better for Fabricators, Welders,and Mechanics with some of their new Tools. The M12 Fuel Ratchets are like gold in my Shop, along with these Grinders.
Keep up the good work Brother!
Thanks bud. Glad you were able to get one of these. We are glad to have a few batteries charged up and ready so we have the ability to drop the cords!
@@WorkshopAddict 10-4 on keeping the Batts charged up! Me too, I live these lil Grinders, but I will readily admit that they are Battery Hogs. That's the advice I would give anyone when recommending these 2 Tools, is ti make sure you have at least 2 Batteries for each one if you plan on using it very much.
I am fortunate enough to own at least a dozen, maybe even 14 or 15 M12 Batteries. I also suggest for anyone buying these to get themselves at least one 6.0ah Battery.
@@phillipchambers8487 If you were to buy just one - angled or straight?
@@TerryManitoba If I could only buy one, it would definitely be the Angled version. The Angled is just more versatile imho.
@@phillipchambers8487 THX - Appreciate the quick reply
Great channel...between my Dewalt die grinder, m12 rotary tool and m12 right angle die grinder, it doesn’t look like a tool I need. I like my very small pneumatic straight die grinder much better.......👍🇺🇸
I would like to know if it is possible to use a smaller collet so I can use some of my dremel tools?
I think this was a great review it answered a lot of questions and I really appreciate it thank you for posting it. I think based off of your review at 18 V Milwaukee or possibly going over to the Darkside with Dewalt will be what I should do for automotive
Great tip my collect was stuck inside the shaft from factory and couldn’t figure how to take it off. I use the Milwaukee 6.0 battery with better results.
I found 6ah on fuel tools is not as big a difference as on the non fuel tools.
I just used mine with a small flap wheel for rusty doors worked perfect even with just 2.0 battery
Sir you are the best I'm really thankful to you .
you don't know how a big problem you have solved since you advise how to fit the color with the bold .I was in the same mistake and I can't fit the die in the grinder and I thought that I will return this die grinder to the seller. Once again thank you have a blessed day .
Great review!!! I have the M12 Dremel and it works well.Used it it many times without power around. There is also the cutout tool as well, but meant for drywall. Seems like there is a bunch of overlap. Every tool has its place and is a godsend when needed.
I've been waiting patiently for this, to go with my 90 degree
If you were to only buy one (straight or angle) which would you go with?
I'm glad he said that . That's now how you use it. He could have used a wired brush attachment 🤔 or a cutting wheel at that straight position
Trying to assess runtime in extreme use is tough and in this case caused us to use this unlike most will, but it showed power and resistance to cut outs.
Wow, had no clue about that piece sliding into the other! I have had my m12 90 degree grinder for months and actually have starting using it less because of how annoying it is to change the bits. Will be trying this at work tomorrow, thanks for the tip!!
With those connected, you can loosen the college and your bit should slide out. Without those two together, the nut will come off and the college will stay tight.
@@WorkshopAddict Thanks so much! Grinder works awesome now. Can't believe I didn't think to try something.
I compare sizes like phillips head screw drivers. A #1 phillips will never do what a #3 is designed for. More tools are ALWAYS better. Great video!
Great information about the collet in the beginning of the video. I was having issues with mine until I watched 👀 your video. I'm now a subscriber.
I have seen all of your videos and like all the reviews you do they really help me out a lot with purchasing new tools to update my setups. I have been a general contractor for years, my father started teaching me at a young age to work with my hands and I love it! I went to trade school for HVAC and I was in that trade for awhile. However, I do general construction from time to time and I have noticed that all of my tools are a little outdated and tired due to years of use. I have slowly updated all my tools to DeWalt 20v max and Milwaukee m18. My little brother uses all my DeWalt tool's and I use my Milwaukee day to day, I can say that the Milwaukee tools feel better and are much stronger than my DeWalt. Now I have one question for you guys I see in some of your videos you have a Jeep! I have a 2014 jeep jk 2 door. I was thinking of using my Jeep to tow a small enclosed trailer V-nose to set up my tools in and make like a small workshop out of. Basically can the jeep handle the weight? Or should I look for a pickup truck? Thanks any help would be greatly appreciated 👍 keep up the videos they are very informative.
Thank you for the compliments and for watching our channel. I have owned 7 jeeps over my lifetime, but only owned one JK, a 2015. That JK was an unlimited, but I do know the power. When I see contractors who have an enclosed trailer, they have some weight in it. More weight than they think. IMHO, being that you have a 2 door, this makes it worse as the wheel base is shorter and the tail wagging the dog effect would be worse. While I think you could use the jeep in the very beginning for short trips, my opinion is that you will need a truck very quickly as you will feel the lack of power in the jeep with any wind and the lack of towing ability with any weight. If you did go this route and use the jeep, be sure to add a brake controller to the jeep and get a trailer with brakes. It would be very unsafe to tow that without brakes as JK brakes are not the best.
@@WorkshopAddict Thank you for the information and quick response! I will take it into consideration when I am shopping for a trailer! I love my Jeep it is the best in all weather conditions! I used to have a 2005 Dodge ram 1500 with a 5.7 hemi that truck was the worst in snow and even rain sometimes, truck was a pig on gas, it also was the extended cab version and 6.5ft bed.
Can u use all deemed accessories on the die grinder?
I think the straight die grinder is better for carbide burrs and the 90 degree for the discs
I bought the m12 rotary tool (similar to a Dremel) and I often use it at work to cut threaded rods, or other metal material at awkward angles.
Compared to my corded Dremel 4000, the little m12 has no guts. It will cut things eventually, but you have to take it slow, not put too much pressure on the tool, out else it would die out.
After watching this video about the straight die-grinder, I'm guessing 12v just isn't enough.
It has to be an 18 volt, or maybe just a plug-in tool for any kind of heavy, extended work (not even that heavy)
I wish there was some testing with the larger batteries. It’s likely that the 2s configuration of the 4.0ah and larger batteries would greatly reduce stalling
I bought this in hopes of saving my bits...going in on auger pockets in the gaps with the corded is a bit like grabbing a bull.
Thanks for this review! I have been skeptical on these tools for my needs for aluminum welding and repair.. I have mostly dewalt stuff and it looks like I’ll be biting the bullet and getting myself a cordless die grinder
Could I replace my milwaukee dremel with this? that is has it the collets and such to also allow it to drill as well as polishing and cutting tasks?
I don't trust the motors in the Milwaukee dremels, they are brushed and burn out.
For some reason mine won’t accept any 1/4” bit. Just bought it and nothing fits.
I bought some china fandisks and the tool has a lot of vibration with them. Is this better with like 3m discs or is this expected? Because it runs super smooth without any accesoires attached.
good test with the manifold, are cut outs reduced much with the 6.0 or is it more tool dependent? you can get little flap disks that fit on that rolac pad aswell i like those for doing weld prep on rocker panels and unibodys where nothing bigger will fit but the sanding disks get snagged and tore up instantly
A little bit later in the video we show the CP2.0 used with a flap wheel and then use a 6.0 Ah battery and it cuts out the same amount.
@@WorkshopAddict my made must of missed that, www.amazon.ca/Density-Premium-Zirconia-Grinding-Sanding/dp/B07H667TZZ/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=die+grinder+flap+wheels&qid=1581969271&sr=8-3 talking more this kind of flap disk, i got a bag of 50 for like 25$ ones linked are too pricey imo
Those are sweet and do not use a ton of power!
Yeah roloc flap wheels are awesome. They work fine on the polisher should be great on this
Hi Can you recommend a 1/8 collet conversion for this, so I can use my other accesories that are not 1/4 inch, thanks
Brilliant summary, well done.
Get rid of those little 2.0 amp batteries man, These tools have WAYYYY more power with the 6.0amp hour battery. Its actually crazy how much more power they have and how they dont cut out at all with the bigger battery.
Can you use this as a woodrot router to remove rotten wood?
Thank
You Very much for the review. I also believe it could be good for a cut off. Tool as well for sheet, metal and things like that.
I've got both and use the angle one for removing gaskets, and straight for cutting. I notice a cutting wheel makes the tool noisy almost like a vibration. Overall I'm happy. I have 4 batteries. Not sure why the different speeds because its variable speed so I leave mine on speed 4
When are you gonna paint your shop?
I wonder if it's powerful enough to gasket match some cast iron cylinder heads
Where am I suppose to find 2in. Cutoff wheel with a 1/4 arbor for the straight die grinder?
Amazon would be the easiest. Pick a good brand name.
The battery is a nightmare to install and remove. I purchased this tool recently. I love Milwaukee tools. I tried putting lubricant on the slides. That makes no different.
Put the saftey on. Wish I could've helped you out sooner. It helps a BUNCH.
Absolutely correct...it's only this straight grinder that is so difficult to insert and remove battery...it's weird but ....I know
Would you say the straight or the right angle one comes into use more often?
I use the straight more often because I have the 1/8" adapter and I use it as a dremel.
Seems like a perfect addition to an at height kit.
Lot of time spent running the supplied kit batteries which is fair enough, but downplays the significance of the battery choice. My M12 Hackzall is another M12 tool that calls for a lot of power, so a 6ah battery is what I use in it. It makes all the difference.
wonder how it would do for buffing tire liner on the road instead a air buffer
I found a Milwaukee drill for 40 bucks (12 volt) I had a couple batteries for the Hatchet so I picked it up. It is plenty powerful and handier to use than the DeWalt 20v max. If I need a die grinder, I'll get the 12v Milwaukee. DeWalt is just too big.
Where did you buy it? I cant find it in my area
Saw another RUclips review in this same die grinder and it seemed to perform better at a lower speed. How have you felt the tool at the lower speeds? Less cut out? Better performance? No less on everything??
It seems about the same power across most levels. It depends on what accessory you are using.
Great review mate. Been thinking of getting the 90deg one. May get both now. Cheers.
Right angle only came out here end of January 😂 might see this one here by Christmas?
Tara u able to use Dremel like bits on it like the rotary tool?
If you have the 1/4" to 1/8" adapter I listed in the description.
is there any way not to push the trigger constantly to have it running? seems very inconvinient for work.
Duck tape
Wondering if this with a 1/8” collet can replace Dremel for home game? Just let out the smoke in my trusty Dremel rebuilding the adjustable pedal assembly in my newly acquired ‘04 WJ.
Yes
WorkshopAddict awesome. Just ordered the new 2 piece set from HD. Funny thing is, I put off buying the M12 die grinders for work because I have Pneumatics. The Dremel failure was the excuse I needed to take the plunge.
Awesome video as always! (Getting the Right Angle soon, I do a lot of old tool restorations, so for rust removal should be awesome!)
Me tool. And honestly the m12 polisher is better for that. The downside is it doesn’t have a 1/4 collet
I did and it makes cleaning tools a breeze..I don’t use anything above 2 inch..
Great video, I know the next M12 that I want to buy now
How do these new Fuel grinders compare with the M12 2438 polisher/sander? I have it and find it great for up to 3” accessories, but I can see where the right angle Fuel’s form factor would come in handy.
The 2438 is a much lower speed tool so it’s likely got way more torque, but it’s an older brushed motor design.
I use the polisher and sander for small areas of buffing on cars with a small 3" foam pad. These die grinders do not have the low end grunt to do that. The polishers do not have the high end speeds these have... So, two different tools for different applications. I would never run a burring tool in my polisher and never run a polisher in my die grinder.
Having owned the polisher for years this beats it simply by having a standard collet for using ANY 1/4 attachment. That m9 thread on the polisher pissed me off no end.
Lexicon Devil, agreed! Milwaukee really isolated that polisher by putting that screwed up thread on it! I wonder if anyone makes an adapter?
How does it hold up with a burr in wood? Does it cut out frequently if you put some decent pressure in it?
I almost did this for the video. It will do very well with wood burrs and it will handle the pressure without issue.
@@WorkshopAddict very nice. That would be my intended use of this tool. 👍
which country is this drill made from?
Where did you get bristle brudh?
I probably wont get an answer (Im late, I know), but for cutting sheet metal, which one would work? The 90 degree or the straight? A regular angle grinder is great but too bit for smaller areas and corners where Id end up cutting structural parts I dont want touched...
Im also dealing with 10ga in the bed of this truck and its driving me nuts. Im about to junk it because its so frustrating. Thanks.
Straight will have more power to cut.
@@WorkshopAddict Thanks. I wish there was one more torque driven than speed, and small for those nasty corners (like in the bed of a pickup). I dont have air..well, I do, but my breaker blows at 80psi...its brand new, but my circuit is 15A so yeah...Anyways, thanks. Ill look more into the straight grinder. As a PS, I do have a dremel but it sucks. The blades go so fast, hardly cut, and all around a useless tool that cost a lot of money (I used them in the military but those must have been older gen, actual tools not toys for wanabes)
@@RipRoaringGarage This will be a slow cut too. Get a 6Ah battery and it will be better.
@@WorkshopAddict Yeah, I got two 6Ah from other tools. Its why Im going with Milwaukee, since I have the impact guns and stuff like that. Body work is new to me, so Im trying to keep things as cost effective as I can. Slower going is ok, as long as it does it...Dremel would have been ok if not for the expensive and crappy discs.
..this will work great with Saburrtooth burrs on wood for wood carvings...
Thanks for the video buddy.
It sures help me on my next decision
how does this compare to the m12 rotarty tool? I know its different arbor, and most likely less rpm, but is one better than the other, or are both needed?
Night and day difference. I do not recommend the rotary tool.
@@WorkshopAddict rotary tool is totally different usage than the grinder..come on
@@WorkshopAddict Have you used the Ryobi rotary tool? Any thoughts on that vs the M12 Rotary?
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How is it that u have a straight one and I still can't even get the 90 degree die grinder yet
I can't see myself porting heads with it. Wishing there was a cordless that could do that.
Hope Dewalt comes out with a 12v die grinder with both a 1/8 and 1/4 collet I have the 20v which is great but sometimes a little to big for some jobs
Lou Cifer they won’t for a while. Dewalt is about 10years behind Milwaukee in innovation and development. Sorry.
@@vojnikjna30 I think they will
It’s worth buying into the m12 range. They have the best and largest range of 12v stuff
@@TheLexiconDevils It's Chinese owned and made won't buy, SBD I heard is going to build here in the United States eventually cutting ties with China and making everything here Trump 2020
WHat is the main differnce with a rotary tool, does any one know? I tried google but got quite a lot of difference results
Might be nice to have a more powerful dremel option
This is 100 times more powerful than a dremel!
Thanks, very nice and honest review.
Couldn’t you use the drywall cut out tool to do most of the things this does? Rotary tool maybe?
This is meant for metal and is much more powerful than the tools you are describing.
What has more power the straight or right angle
I feel the right angle does.
@@WorkshopAddict Thanks
Does it have defrent speeds? And how big it opens for grinding bits?
I have a cord one, but it one speed, i wish is was slower
Bud, I went over all of this in the video. :( Three speeds ZERO to 10K, 15K and 21K. It has a 1/4 inch collet and I link to an adapter to go down to 1/8".
How does it's bigger brother compare aka (18volt) Milwaukee, compare to the DeWalt 18volt version? Great video BTW! Love your channel!
I became attached to the Dewalt 20-volt due to the feel and the way you can adjust the max speeds. I do not use the 18-volt because it is not as comfortable as the Dewalt. Comparable power, but the rest of the tool does not stack up to the dewalt, IMHO.
Cool! Thanks for your opinion. 👍🏼🇺🇸🦅
Can you review the ford pressure washer
I purchased milwaukees 2 dremel tool and both motors overheated and burned out! Im thinking of using die grinder with the collet reducer and give it a shot.
That's my plan too, burnt out one and burnt out the warranty replacement for some
I think it will work out well for that.
I have had the m12 dremel tool since it was intro'd and gave a few as gifts too. Theyre all going strong under heavy use.
Just got the right angle one...have a valve cover in the back yard that's looking like a test subject 😁
Some have complained about the right angle and the battery life, but I love that tool and use it for so many things! Its awesome. Rollocs work perfect with it.
@@WorkshopAddict glad to hear. The 2" rolocs are what I've been using on the air one...and I didn't want to have to get smaller ones lol
Run it with a cut off wheel. See what the run time is.
Agreed
I am body shop worker and I brought those 2 tools and they don't do the job they supposed to do¿ they constantly shut off
Ffs I was about to finally get my 90 degree now they drop this? Gonna be a long wait before it hits Australia
Back from store. They sent ones with 6mm collets here 😐 and yes it matters
great honest review !
I have the dewalt 20v die grinder as well
I enjoy the 20 volt dewalt for the grip. I hate the safety, but deal with it as it is just smooth and easy.
I use my dewalt all the time, and love it. I would like to have the M12 Fuel as well, because of its smaller size and weight, for those tight areas
Was planning to go 90. Looks like I might go straight.
I really like the right angle one too. Two different tools for two different uses.
great review,honest
Just got this tool. I love it! Thanks for the hot tip at the beginning of the video. Mine came the same way and on my first use I was getting a little frustrated with the collet.
I do have one gripe. My tool seems to have some flex near the top that is kinda concerning. Makes me think it's gonna break there at that seam
It’s made to flex like that for less vibration.
Thanks Brian good video
Thank you
I've had the Right angle one for a long time. I don't really see where this one would be better than the right angle other than reaching deep into something. The right angle makes it so much easier to choke up and control in my opinion. Definitely a battery hog.
I chose the straight one over the angle for several reasons, it's really just personal choice. For me, I've only used straight grinders since around 1968 working in tool and model making shop, for several years in Honda off-road stuff, and personal home projects. Also used the Foredom tools for jewelry and fine metal working. But that heavy motor and drive shaft are always in the way, trying to push my hand around. This does the job but without all of that bulk! The advantage to a straight grinder is really, really fine control. To understand this better, picture a painter using a brush, they are never at 90% angle. For heavier work, say welding, auto, I'd probably select the 90% model. But then, all this is really the reason to have more than one style. You can never have too many tools in my opinion, each one doing exactly its job. Have to say, it was a toss up for me here.
Awesome channel thank you
Can you review the ryobi 18v easy clean hand held pressure washer
Will try!
Think it’s time to practice porting and polishing heads
That is the intake on our 71 corvette and we have used it for testing a ton. That will never be used again. Great item to test battery run time on.
Port’n’polish is a dying art. The amount of people I encounter ask what it means is shocking 😐
I really want to see a "kit" deal with both tools.
I see these "die grinders" as not-crap cordless "dremels". The big question will be can we find collets, etc, to use the smaller 1/8" shank tools on the M12s.
That said, I really wish Milwaukee had put spindle locks on these so you could change bits with a single wrench.
You will find the adapter to use 1/8" tools in the description. I did show that later in the video. A spindle lock would be amazing on this tool!
@@WorkshopAddict I guess I missed that. I'll have to bookmark that adapter though I'd rather see Milwaukee just make an 1/8" collet and include it in the kit.
I do not see that happening. Dewalt is including the adapter with many of their die grinders and not proving a new collet....
Both tools,,straight and angle with two 2’ah batteries ,299 HD Seems like just an ok price.
Great video👍👊
Thank you!
great review ---- I expected the usual OMG its so amazing send me more free tools ---- With that said I have the m12 angle die grinder and I like it ---- if i was going for a straight die grinder id probably go for the M18 just because of the higher power it can give
Great review keep it up :)
Thanks bud, we believe in the more informational and honest approach.
@@WorkshopAddict Same sentiment. This is how tool reviews should be done. No BS no hype just be informative.
I just bought the M18 drill/Driver combo and it cam with an M12/2A battery. So I am lookin for something to power with it. This is one of my options and I need to hear information not hype.