CARNIVORE VS VEGAN | VEGANISM DEBUNKED??
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2020
- A carnivore dieter attended an outreach event in Sydney looking to debunk veganism. But did it work out for him?
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Plant have B 12 is good for you
I supported vegan
Nut Tesco's UK
Just to summerize Frank:
1. Worried about B12, he wants it from a natural source which animals are also supplemented.
2. Vegans are abusing plants.
3. Cites pseudo science about curing autism.
4. Did a well planned vegan diet at 13 years old.
5. Apparently taking 10 minutes of your day to cut a carrot is too much.
6. Fiber is bad for humans.
I dont know Joey, I think he beat you on that one.
Don't forget that "plant food isn't natural". You can't find it outside the city!
@hauha loooool yeah stardust = allowed to consume living beings.
Really couldnt compile everything he said into a single list honestly...
Not only does he think it takes 10 minutes to cut a carrot, does he eat animals raw? Animal products require orders of magnitude more preparation than a carrot which you can just eat, a cucumber, a strawberry, some leafy greens. These things are eaten as is. If you want to make your fallacious appeal to what’s natural, at least eat the things that are.
Don't forget you can't find carbohydrates or nuts in nature apparently
Wait till he realizes you can get carrots precut or the fact you can, this may blow his mind, be able to cut them faster by getting better with a knife!
"fibers are not good for you" "saturated fat is good for you" this guy is a living meme
He's right u know.
@johto you're a clown. Congratulations.
Yep. He’s right.
@@johtoscientifical Proof?
@@onemeterboy5211 common sense, which is not common anymore
-"go outside of the city and see if you can live"
-"where do you live?"
-"in the middle of the city"
Glad the debate didn't last longer. Dude was 2 arguments away from having a stroke.
Homie was ready to get some insta followers but Joey was like nah bro
That's really agressive. And if I was a non-human animal, I would like to see someone defending me in this way.
Hell yeah! I'd want someone to fight for me like a Lion!👏👏
Best comment ever. >.
Sorry to tell u but if u were a chicken I'd probably eat you and eat ur babies too.
@Las Vegan so you own a meat eating cat?
@Las Vegan so don't animals have to be murdered so you can feed your cat?
"You think you're like a rock?"
"At some point yah 100%"
"You think like a rock"
What carnism does to human brains
You know you’re winning a discussion when the other dude implies it’s okay to abuse animals cause humans are the same as rocks.
i keel animel cuz stardust tho
Correct.... They vegans, vegetarians are crazy... How are animals humans? Crazy people... Hypocrites... As in one debate vegans eat honey, do they know how honey is harvested? If everytime we wash ourselves we kill millions of bacteria and germs or even doing laundary... "Human supremacist " are you nuts because we eat meat we are human supremacist... So for vegans... if it is not large enough to see with naked eyes and do not experience/exchange interaction, emotions, sentiments than it is fair to eat small insects , bacterias / germs along with vegetables or whatever and it is not killing plants, killing living beings... 😀
Someone has daddy issues.
Yes, I got that too
@@ispatreonethical376 You have no clue
his father has bigger brains ,
@@andersonwiliamsyellowpillm4223 Why is that?
DaniJo2320 why?
He's the exact reason I don't want kids.
True that
You never know how they are going to turn out.
@sean grantI don't watch TV. I have no cable and no Netflix. I don't have pets either. You make a lot of wrong assumptions. Also having children is selfish. You're the ones wanting your dna to live on forever and ever because of the self importance you assign yourself. The "animals will take over" excuse is a desperate grasping at anything to justify abusing animals to death. It's pathetic. Why aren't you vegan? How come you animal abusers are all the same with no content, no subs, no avatar, no arguments. It's as if you're ashamed to defend animal cruelty using a legit account?
@sean grant I love when people like you say that "Vegans have been programmed", we're the minority of people going against the status quo. You're the one who has been programmed to believe you need meat lmao.
Don't then
It took 22:00 minutes and it was revealed that he has unresolved issues or trauma with his family for forcing him to do a certain thing. He hinted at it when he said Joey's stance was ego based. I can sympathise with that, deep set connections in relationships like that are hard to circumvent, I hope he can resolve whatever might be there.
plant killer
plant abuser honestly this is just insane🤣🤣🤣
"If you are abusing animals you are abusing plants"
-Australian carnivore dieter
That really changed my whole perspective, I've never once heard that argument before as a vegan. Truly groundbreaking stuff.
@@cynicalidealist11 Yeah, he educated me as well. I've never heard that before from a meat-eater. Never.
Joey's Stupid Question s
Where do you live?
How old are you?
Remember people ... when you're debating vegans like Joey Carbstrong, you're debating hysterical people. And this one in particular is not polite. They taught him to stab and harass people, not to speak hahaha. You can see that the 300 followers he has are the same 300 from 3 years ago. (the same people with mental problems). Joey .. you are not a moral authority and animals are part of our diet. get over it my dear
@@businesspamm3170 300 hundred followers for 3 years who were told their died wouldn't sustain them. Doesn't sounds so bad at all.
I laughed when you asked if he is a carrot activist
ruclips.net/video/NAFH6WwYS5Y/видео.html
Why tf did you link that 😂
I laughed the minute I heard “plant abuse”
Man, all the meat eaters and vegans that are arguing seem to be mainly about how to starve the living stuff out of humanity...
soy actually shrinks your brain. im vegan i just dont eat soy. if anything i only eat tofu like 10 times a year
@@iamgod2063 Nonsense
“You’re comparing animals with a carrot. You’re a fool. Are you a carrot activist?” Nice one Joey.
"You're telling me fiber is good for me man!" -Carnists
Frank: "And I don't respect you because you sharing absolute bullshit."
Joey: "How?"
Frank: "Why? You tell me that fiber is good for me, man."
Okay, I am entertained. Lmfao
*facepalm
LMAOOO
fiber is as bad for you as protein
WHAT AN IDIOT, our pancreas does not work, secrete insulin unless fiber is present & ALL plants have fiber & ALL animal products have ZERO fiber; he's a troll fool lying ass animal abuser...#BeVegan ✌🏽
Remember people ... when you're debating vegans like Joey Carbstrong, you're debating hysterical people. And this one in particular is not polite. They taught him to stab and harass people, not to speak hahaha. You can see that the 300 followers he has are the same 300 from 3 years ago. (the same people with mental problems). Joey .. you are not a moral authority and animals are part of our diet. get over it my dear
"Do you think you're the same as a rock?"
"At some point yes"
"You think like a rock"
😂😂😂
21:23
Man u are litteraly made out of minerals that rocks are made of we are different by other things just because we are able to think. Thats why we are seeing animals like a product they are unable to think which means they arent humans so stop atributing human rights to fuvking animals.
right 😹
@@mariuscatalin1105 There are some human beings who aren't able to think, should they be given fewer rights? Society has/is dictating to you which animals you can consume and which to love *arbitrarily so* moral inconsistency as you talk from your human supremacy stance.. and at the end of it all, for taste pleasure. Maybe a little less speciesism and a little more critical thought?
@@flyingfig12 Again u are trying to asociate human rights to animals. Even mentaly disabled human are still human and u cant compare them to cows
@@mariuscatalin1105 rocks doesn't feel but a cow deserves right because it feels pain like humans and dogs
I applaud your patience Joey. It's so common for people to deflect onto other topics rather than face the Reality of their Actions. There is No Excuse to Support Animal Abuse
Let's keep fighting for justice.
Greetings from Mexico and Go Vegan.
In Mexico there's ton of meat eaters like a huge meat market
You got my respect to be vegan in Mexico ...
@@micahbellderat6358 Lol in Mexico they only eat f***ing doritoz that's all
greetings from a Mexican in Las Vegas ! respect for you being vegan in Mexico !!!
Mexican vegan here! Living in México by the way.
Frank: “you’re absolutely bullshit!” Joey: “How?” Frank: “cause you’re telling me fiber is good for me!” Me: loses all my brain cells
LOL
The carnivore actually said once people cut out saturated fat from their diets, cardiovascular disease, dementia, Alzheimer and diabetes INCREASED even though it's a FACT that saturated fat contributes to all of those diseases!!
Frank had some good points but he was wrong about that for sure
This guy is a ticking time bomb if he's not eating fibre. It's proven that high protein, low fibre diets can increase your chances of colon cancer. Plus I imagine his farts must absolutely reek
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He graduated near the top of his class at Sv3rige University
Hahahaha
Vegans are actually healthy because they think they are healthy which mentally cures them which actually physically cures them.
Wtf Joey is a fucking idiot.
He's not even a fucking scientist.
so Stoopid.
Sugar actually comes from sugarcanes you fucking Joey.
Joey doesn't even does his research
Joey doesn't even fucking listen.
This is how this fucking conversation went..
Meat eater -ask questions
Joey- asks questions
Meat Eaters- answers questions
Joey-debates
Meat Eaters- also debates
Joey-blame meat eater for harassing him and trash taking to him
Meat Eaters- can't stand his retarded behavior then acts out mad which the hole video shifts in to blaming him.
This is actually what most of Joey's vlogs are.
Haha..!!
@@nigerianfam9743 Buzz off troll
@@nigerianfam9743 get da hell out
😂😂😂😂
He’s blaming his vegan diet when a child for wearing braces 🤦🏻♀️
I guess orthodontist patients are mainly vegan kids then 🤣
Frank is pathetic!
OH MAN. I'm from Czech republic just like this guy. This is the type of representation I really did not want. Not everyone in Czechia is like this I SWEAR.
I guess all I can do right now is to laugh, otherwise I'd cry.
We know that, there are good and bad people everywhere. There are clowns like frank in every country.
LOL
He doesn’t upload debate vids with Euros anymore because they absolutely wreck him in a polite manner.
I am from Slovakia BRO :D
I am also from Czechia and thank god for this one. Better than vegan idiots.
This guy moves more goal posts than a football stadium renovator
Nicely put.
♥️☺️
Or moves more poles then a scaffolding company.
Hes probably taking advice from Sv3rige
Jespy I thought it was Sverige for a second! 😆
@@carriebrooks3755
Probably his cousin 😅
@@beratbra2407 If only we could see his hairline to tell...
His intellect and personality is a good indicator!
Jespy Sv3rige is a genius that saved my life. Veganism=death and deterioration for humans
I wonder why it's always that the carnivore looks strong and robust, while the vegan looks much less so?
What do you look like?
So you have proper statistics to back up what you speculate?
Which carnivores & which Vegans are you talking about?
If you're using Frank as an example simply because he's tall & obviously does bodybuilding then you're assuming he's strong. I'm half his size, 50, been a vegan activist for over 35 years and have a resume of boxing fights under my belt.
Unless Frank is also a trained fighter of some kind , my pathetic vegan muscles would be enough to put him to sleep.
"Braces and glasses, which is the result of eating a vegan diet." HAHA
A plant killer? Bloody hell what has this world come to. 😂🤦♀️
EDIT: Holy crap this the most likes I have ever had on a comment and the most comments.
I had no idea this would turn into a HUGE debate.
@Gay Vegan IKR I'm almost 14 and I know how to treat them nicely
Plants are living as well...
@@daviemorrison8514 they are not beings and vegans eat the fruit and vegetables that comes from the the plant.
@YoStefan Do you want to discuss why I should become vegan?
Do you think you can make logical arguments for why everyone should go vegan?
Do you think its immoral to kill animals?
@@lollyrebekah7602 kid you do know Joey Carbstrong is ex drugs addict and a criminal right?
Frank does come across as the drunk guy in a pub you just can't get away from fast enough.
I only realise now that I went Vegan in order to stop being one of them.
I think it's working.
😌
Hey Joey, just a piece of advice. Don't get so aggressive while arguing about veganism, because you can make the other person also aggressive, and it can change the focus and topic of the argument. It's always good to have an intellectual argument rather than an aggressive and egoistic one.
Give Joey a break. He has to deal with Morons like this everyday.
Nobody really has the patience of Jesus.
Try it yourself.
I love your debates so much! Keep up the great work!
“What’s the difference between me and a rock?”
That is a good question. 😂
Ouch😂
Vincent Savoye That should make him more able to empathize with the animals then. It did for me.
“You don’t even know where b12 comes from and your a scientist now when it comes to health” 😭😂😂
1x10 it’s actually funny because that guy was RIGHT about where it comes from! Joey is the idiot whose wrong! It IS synthesized by bacteria in the stomachs of ruminants and the only reason it would be found in the soil is because an animal died there😂
@@rebeccabru7258 hahaha That's actually not true, so your the idiot. There are studies backing it up. So by your suggestion an animal has died on every piece of land with soil that contains b12. That's literally laughable.
@@alexbowgen7388 the best one was:
" are you the same as a rock"
" yeah in a way , 100%"
" that explains why you think like a rock"
rofl
Alex Bowgen soil is largely composed of dead animals and I don’t understand how you wouldn’t know that? And absolutely that’s the only reason B12 would be in soil (which humans do not naturally eat btw😂 that’s what’s laughable is that vegans think humans got B12 from dirt and not animals)
Game Tube what’s better than breast milk?
I feel this guy’a meat eating is a form of rebellion to his parents and especially his dad to him he fell way too inferior so he decided to become this “big strong meat eater” to oppose the parenting style and take his power back
So much meat was confused that he didn't know fibre is good for him
“You tell me fibre is good for me man!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fun fact it isn't they only help with intestines
21:47 ....It seems like it was a "hate on parents" issue all the time.
By the way, this is one of your sharpest and funniest approaches i've seen. Hands down.
First they ignore you, then they mention plants, then you win.
😂 So true.
why? whats the response to plant abuse?
@@dontreadmyprofilepicture6080 more plants are killed to feed animals (which are then murdered to eat), than are killed to directly eat the plants in a vegan diet.
@@fieldofreeds8581 Lucy Sroka OK interesting, Im just trying to understand the implications of that statement. basically it is admitting that plants do feel pain, at least similarly to animals, only tht vegans are better than meat eaters, because meat eaters #1 cause pain to animals, as well as plants and #2 cause more pain to plants than vegnas cause to plants.
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so basically that is saying that both parties cause pain to something, only that vegans cause less pain, so they are better, correct me if my assumptions of these implications are incorrect
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so that means that, acording to veganism, everyhting we eat is a result of some kidn of pain . abuse, the only difference is that vegans are causing "less" pain / abuse, so therefore its better
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but can you answer me this:
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what about all of the vegan products that are not necessary for an actual diet? for example, vegan ice cream, sodas (not sure if they have, but at least sugarydrinks) or any other vegan food product, or activity for that mater (including board games etc) that are not absolutely necessary for survival, according to the vegan viewpoint, wouldn't all of those things be just as bad as eating meat, since everything is causing harm anyway, and the egan way is just to cause less harm, but then if its unnecessary, shouldn't it also be outlawed by vegans? why or why not?
@@fieldofreeds8581 also, slightly unrelated, but I see you are holding a house cat in your profile pictre, isn;t the vegan belief that house-pets are considered slaves, and it should also be outlawed?
You should have let the guy speak instead of ramming your opinions on him. People have a range of value systems and trying to impose yours onto someone else will never work. Everyone gets stressed out and it’s so unproductive
17:45 don't touch my meat, bro 👀🤣👏
@21:23 imagine a human being telling you they are the same as a rock “100%” 😂😂😂
Frank has some serious issues with his dad!That's self evident, I suggest he consult a psychiatrist. Wish him the best!
It almost sounded like he didn't get breastfed and his parents gave him soy milk instead. Maybe they are really some kind of delusional health fanatics that don't know what they are doing...But his whole story didn't make sense. First he said he grew up in a vegan family and then he said he was only vegan for one year when he was a teenager. Does this mean when he was a toddler he went to the butcher and bought himself meat against the will of his parents? How could he not have been vegan as a small child in those circumstances?
@Christian Mair I'm a vegan who eats fish (so not pescatarian because I don't eat dairy or eggs, literally just plants and fish). Even I stay completely away from soy, and feeding a child too much soy milk is incredibly ignorant and irresponsible. Soy messes with your hormones, which in turn changes your mental state.
@Christian Mair the reason for adding fish to my plant diet is because I want optimum health. The peer reviewed scientific journal that vegans quote states "the vegan diet is adequate for humans throughout all stages of life". It says adequate, not optimum. I have a selfish desire for improved health, and going totally vegan would atleast be of some cost to my health. I dont see myself as vegan, I see my diet as harm and suffering reduction. I've removed all eggs and dairy, and the only meat I eat is fish. It's not vegan, it's not perfect, but it's a good way to severely reduce suffering whilst keeping my health. I've seen the horrible dairy and slaughtering videos, maybe I'm a bad person, but I don't see fish in the same way, I've personally killed and eaten fish myself, so I know that my ethics do align with my diet
Comment section suddenly got a psychology degree.
Joey has some serious issues with his health. That's self evident, I suggest he consult a health expert. Wish him the best!
This guy has been watching Sv3rige , I can tell 😂
hahahaha FOR SUUUURE
Damn that was a tough one Joey, this just proves how important proper research is. Wish everyone in the world would've watched What the Health.
Soy milk made him need braces and glasses....tragic. 🥴
Yeah because braces and glasses were invented solely for those soy drinking vegans. No one else wears them ever.
Lmaoooo
This guy hurt my brain “there’s no nuts in nature” huh??
Barbaric Bunch Ethan
Did he really say that?
It seems I missed it.
Reverend Eslam yeah when Joey was explaining where fats and proteins come form
Barbaric Bunch Ethan
🐟 30. FOOD & DIET:
Foods in the mode of purity promote good physical and mental health.
Such foods include (above all) fruits, vegetables, nuts, pulses, grains, roots, flowers, seeds, tubers, bulbs, herbs, and of course, purified water (or milk, in the case of infants).
To be included in this classification, the food must be LIVING, that is, fresh and raw (or at most, steamed or lightly sautéed, if one is residing in a cold clime). Most all animals subsist on living foodstuffs, so to be considered healthy, the food must be both living and natural. As with all herbivorous mammals, humans who consume a pure diet normally experience a bowel movement after each meal.
Foods in the mode of passion promote indigestion and overly-excite the mind.
Such foods are basically the same as above but with excessive amounts of oil, spices, sweeteners, salt and/or other condiments added. Most drugs, such as caffeine, alcohol, black tea, and narcotics (though hardly food), fall into this category.
To be included in this category, the VEGETARIAN* foods may be properly cooked.
Foods in the mode of darkness cannot rightly be called food at all, and invariably cause either constipation or diarrhoea.
Such offal is putrid, decayed, carcinogenic, overcooked, burnt, or the remnants of another’s meal. Again, to be included in this classification, the food is to be of wholly PLANT or fungal origin.
It is an undeniable scientific fact that humans are a HERBIVOROUS species. There is not a single aspect of human psychology or physiology which even suggests that we were designed or evolved to feed on animals. Animal consumption is lawful only if there is a scarcity of (actual) food. However, to be fair, some races have adapted reasonably well to an omnivorous diet due to residing in regions of the earth where edible vegetation has been scarce, for millennia before the twentieth century. But even then, those races have been found to improve their health when their diet had been enriched with vegetation.
Milk is intended solely for consumption by infants of the SAME species. Cow’s milk is for baby cows, not adult humans. The logic is overwhelming, but unfortunately, not all persons are capable of reaching such a base level of logic to understand that it is unnatural for a human to suckle on the teats of a cow or goat.
Unnecessarily killing and/or consuming animals is an ABOMINABLE action. It is not natural for humans to put dead animals like sheep, cows, goats, rabbits, chicken and fish inside their mouths. Sheep and cows are food for carnivorous animals such as lions, tigers and wolves, and fish is food for marine and semi-aquatic species. Do humans live in the ocean? Of course not! Then why is it necessary for us to go into the water to find our food? Is that sensible? Not at all, unless, as previously mentioned, one is afflicted with true hunger.
“And God said, ‘Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.’”
Genesis 1:29.
“Let food be thy medicine,
and let medicine be thy food.”
Hippocrates,
Father of modern medicine.
N. B. "Vegetarian" is used LITERALLY here, that is, 'one who subsists on vegetation'. One who consumes vegetation and dairy and/or eggs is properly called a "lacto-vegetarian" or a "lacto-ovo vegetarian", respectively. The term "vegan" is not directly related to diet, but to the philosophy of unnecessarily harming animal life.
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@@TheWorldTeacher 14:43 is where he says it. lmao this guy is something else
Reverend Eslam what?
13:24 Frank's telling Joey, "You're basically trying to take away who we are as a human," while Joey is trying to make humans find their lost selves and restore faith back into humanity, which is being compassionate, not psychopathic, desensitized animal abusers. Secondly I found this statement false, because human anatomy and physiology are more suited to a vegan diet, so no, again, Joey ISN'T "trying to take away who we are as humans." After becoming vegan, I feel more "human" than ever and don't feel like my "humanhood" has been robbed. , summarize the health aspect of all this very well.
Well, I do hope Frank gets over his anxieties, insecurities, and built anger towards his parents he seems to resent massively for raising him on a plant-based diet. Also doing some basic research about nutrition before trying to make any arguments about health would save himself from appearing so foolish. Strangely, I feel a lot of pity for this guy. Why he so mad? What did vegans ever do to you?
Hey Joey is nutritional yeast a sufficient source of b12?
Dude's got a point though, he also gave evidence for the FACT that he's more or less a rock. Debunk that Joey, HA!
Mastodon yes!
Rocks for brains
Lack of fiber probably. Petrified stool in the gut 😂
Proud plant abuser 🙋🏻♂️
Mee too BRUH !!
Yeah well you're a fucking loser
WMW MWM what’s a looser?
@@YoseMiteEmery wadiyatalkinabeet
WMW MWM ahh the edit button. Too bad you can’t edit your ignorance.
He made Joey look really bad , especially the physical size difference between them, not to mention the conversation.
I cannot believe that there are people who will stir up alot of shit over abusing plants, and then not care about the animals. They try to say plants are sentient, which they obviously are NOT. But even if that ridiculous idea was true and plants were sentient, why care about them and not animals which obviously ARE sentient?
“Okay you’ve just proved you know nothing about b12”💀💀💀😂😂GOTTA LOVE JOEY
"Yeah, you think like a rock when it comes to animal rights." I love you Joey!
LOL
Who is the person he is interviewing, anyone know?
This guy is right in most things. Everyone eats too many carbs these days and its only natural to eat animal products. We eat them for million of years and its no random fact that most modern problems like diabetes and health problems came after everyone replaced the natural animal fats with prepossessed foods, sugars and carbs in general.
"Who's filling up hospitals, vegans?" LOVE IT! Nice, Joe!💖💖
Fay Ray vegans barely cover the population
Joey : I don't wanna see no fuckin 13 year old vegans here 😂
Don’t of protein deficiency I guess. 😂
most vegans are dependent on hospitals & supplements more than meat eaters
@@mysteriousstranger6834 I’m sure you have loads of emergence for that, and it probably includes all the people who are in hospital with heart disease, diabetes related illnesses and various cancers.
joey:„are you a rock?“
frank:“to some extend yes“
i‘m done😂
He said "at some point" 🙃
What's the name of the lecturer/doctor who speaks about B12 in the videoclip?
Dr. Klaper
this turned really funny i can watch them argue all day
N O O T R I E N T S
Salute to Joey's patience.
Lol Joey is anything but patient. Persistent, aggressive and passionate certainly, but patient no. But don’t get me wrong, his activism is exactly in line with what the innocent creatures whose moral worth is being denied and rights stripped deserve.
@@suchawolfy thanks for saying that,, reading the comments is kind of embarrassing. I am vegan and notice that vegans can be just as ignorant and create bias like any other person.. I am sick of seeing it, it is the very reason why the movement is so slow.. because the hypocrisy is real.
MattsLinky Yeah it’s worrying. We get in these echo chambers where we are radicalised to not see the interactions happening for what they are. I think this internal dishonesty hurts our movement because it makes us seem irrational and incoherent.
Joey is impatient and furious. Instead of denying this reality, we should own up to it, because he has every right to feel that way. We don’t need to paint ourselves in some morally superior light. We speak facts and don’t bullshit and the message speaks for itself. Be against all oppression and exploitation wherever it occurs, being vegan is the LEAST you can do 💚🐶🐥🐮💪
@@suchawolfy I suspect Chancel is referring to the fact that Joey stayed talking to the guy for 20+ minutes, trying to get through to him, instead of giving up. That's a kind of patience too. But I see where you're coming from as well. He certainly is justifiably furious.
English is not this dude’s first language, that doesn’t change the argument or make his opinion less valuable.
"I don't care about science" - Carnitard
@Ipath My body feels honestly amazing after 2.5 years vegan. Biggest I've ever been in the gym, and no blood on my conscience.
The carnivore said once people cut out saturated fat from their diets, cardiovascular disease, dementia, Alzheimer and diabetes INCREASED even though it's a FACT that saturated fat contributes to all of those diseases!!
😂😂😂
Independent Politics who the fuck eats like 10 pounds of meat per week? Nope
"Vegans are compassionate" - Vegtard
Does anyone have a link to the peer reviewed paper from the academy of nutrition and dietetics?
“Provide ur fucking research mate” LMFAOOOOOO Joey is a bad ass
Spending 10 minutes to chop up a carrot and cook it when you can just eat meat??? What am I hearing
This the activism I like to see. Honest, and for the animals only.
Justin Wiet only for the animals?! It‘s sadistic!
thats so stupid, what about the people?
So the insects and bees that help sustain your ecosystem are not important then?
I prefer my health so I eat meat
@@MrJavacash watch the Gamechangers
Love the fire Joey, bring more of it ✊
The truth is that we need to treat animals far better than we do BUT obviously carnivore is the proper human diet 🥩🥩👍💪
I really thought this was a prank because everything he said was soooooo absurd, my God, my brain was dead after he said we don't need fiber 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Cibele Belato I hope he is drinking a lot of water, with no fiber he’s shit must hurt lol
So it doesn't matter that he feels and looks amazing without fiber? Maybe your brain really is dead, too much carbs
Dr Fil you don’t necessarily need fiber but it’s really beneficial
Fiber isn't nessesary tho and its not good for every one there is a lot of ppl who just can not eat oats lentals and other vegan stuff... Vegans wont understand. I have Tried good vegan diet with good fats lot of proteins but i just feel like shit i just cant live this way. I would love to feel as good on vegan diet as on carvonire diet. But i just can not. I care about my life much more than animals sorri
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Lolz.
Joey’s content is the only thing getting me through this quarantine.
What a sad life
That’s sad
Blackout HQ watching people advocate against slavery makes me happy
@@dartagnanharris3661 Slavery was abolished almost 200 years ago
@@blackouthq4732 but human slavery still exsists. And hes probly talking about animal slavery
The more successful outreaches are nicer to watch- but this is a nice change to see, since all activists have to put up with convos like this one!
"I take their lives and absorb their bodies
Their power becomes mine"
-every villain
This is so sad honestly, how can someone be that ignorant and dumb to be “proud” of torturing baby animals and gets defensive to not eat “Fibre”.
I know this is 3 years ago but you do realize they aren’t killed as baby’s they are grown to full size to increase Protein intake right?
What an aggressive and stupid "human" being. I couldnt discuss with the animal killers!
Do you want to discuss why I should become veganism?
Do you think you can make logical arguments for why everyone should go vegan?
Do you think its immoral to kill animals?
Awesome profile pic, one of my favourite albums 🤟
So much hate towards others. Doesnt say much about you. They might be eating and abusing animals. You abuse and put your hatread on others.
@@lamdlwkf5227 I love animals more than humans because they are innocent and don't try to justify murder with nonsense.
This is such a prejudice comment. Since vegans like to relate eating animals to slavery I’m going to relate this comment to slavery. White slave masters used to call their slaves stupid “human”. Now vegans are doing it because they think they are better than the rest of the population because their teeth aren’t sharp
"you're trippin'" hahahahaha love you Joey
Joey where do you get your creatine bro? Where do you get taurine? where do you get your DHA?
All vegan.
this guy is way tooooo smart to listen to peer review science. .. everyone know it's better with anecdotes and logical fallacies hahha
I always knew B12 come from the transition energy in the body. Joey how dare you encourage someone to eat fibre, so irresponsible......(face palm)
Animal activist should start protesting against animal slavery in the name of cattle to feed humans.
Glad your solid Joey most of these people really try to intimidate you and you just kick there arse with your knowledge and fearless mentality 💪🏻
So weird when the people who know so little on a topic assume that they know far more than they actually do while the people who know a lot about a certain subject typically feel inside they that there's a lot they don't know about that subject. It's called the dunning-kruger effect and this poor guy with the Raiders hat is a prime example. Saying that in a compassionate way because I feel for him and it's sad but also frustrating for everyone, including himself. I've never understood why peopletake all these random bits and pieces of things that they have heard throughout their life and then assume they can regurgitate it as fact without any desire or effort to find out the truth for them self.
He tried his best, he failed miserably. One video showing how incredibly confused meat eaters are. And also how smart...
@Mr Brobot I can see what the guy in the video meant when he said people are almost rocks, you prove that lmao. You eat flesh because lions eat buffalo ok lol. Eating flesh is unnecessary and cruel,but you don't care, you support unnecessary animal abuse, we get it, no need to be so loud about it.
So true, so true.
@@freezingmoon5663 This is nature. Whether u think its cruel or not humans eat animals, no ones gonna give u a present because u think ur better than humans
@@dabby249 It's nature to ARTIFICIALLY inseminate millions of cows, kill them, wrap them in plastic , and put them in shop shelves? Just stop saying stupid things. I don't want a present, I want people to stop abusing and hurting animals.
I'm not confused, I like eating meat and I can live with my decision.
JOEY...
HATS OFF FOR THIS ONE. 👏🏼
after seeing channels like vegan phobic, vegan deterioration and sv3rige its really sad how sick vegans can become and they still think its healthy. i wish the best for people and hope they realize before its too late what can happen if they go on a vegan diet. the worst part of it is when little children die from being fed only plants, vegans definitely should never have kids or meat eating pets.
If the argument, "Everything is just one consciousness", (which is true), arises again; the response should be that one naturally seeks to not harm oneself. Since a sentient manifestation is more liable to suffer than an insentient one, Veganism is mandatory.
Very good !!!
Where is this guys accent from?
The meat guy is right.
B12 does comes from bateria you told him he was wrong over and over again, yet he was right.
India has the largest population of vegetarian eaters and the highest population of people with diabetes and heart disease
5:38 yea so Joey never claimed B12 wasn’t from bacteria
Also, vegetarians still eat eggs and dairy, one egg alone puts you over your daily recommended intake of cholesterol and saturated fat. While you are right about India’s rate of disease, if you look at the population data vegetarians make up the northern parts of India, the south they actually legally eat cows and shit. If you look at just one bit of statistical data, I’ll even bet there’s a cohort study somewhere, vegetarians still have the lowest rate of all cause mortality compared to the meat eaters. So…got anything else my guy?
What about his father? How is his health if he has been vegan for years like he said? And now he is on carnivore diet🤔.He clearly has issues with his father and is holding on to some pain. That is y he is argueing with you. Its sad tho. I hope he grows up and works it out with his father.
yeah and if his parents are plant based I would asume he ait plant based for most of his life and he seemed to have grown up pretty nice. tall and in good shape, but meat eaters will prob say that's because of the one year he was carnivore xD all that one year of carnivore has done to him is make his skin turn red because of high blood presure
With people like that that are never going to change. All u can hope is that they die off soon. Move on to people who are open minded
Word!
I love how all Vegans think they are also Psychologists🤣😂
These plant right activists crack me up🤣 No right way to do the wrong thing. Go vegan🌱💚 thanks all you do for the animals Joey🖤
Do you want to discuss why I should become veganism?
Do you think you can make logical arguments for why everyone should go vegan?
Do you think its immoral to kill animals?
@@islandsfuldkorn I'll say yes to all tree.
@@kuusakat1308 Can you elaborate ? What are the logical moral arguments for veganism? Why is it immoral?
JewsAre TheChosenPeople because farming is definitely a natural thing? if eating meat is so natural why do humans develop heart disease and increase their risk of numerous cancers by consuming it where as actual omivores and carnivores dont? Meat is unnecessary for the human diet
@@kuusakat1308
Dear Kat,
Don't bother. It's a just another troll. You'll be there for hours/days achieving nothing.
It's essentially another Sv3rige (a Flat Earther, _qu'elle surprise_).
It's just another nasty piece of work phishing for attention.
You have been warned.
☺️
Experience is better than any "science" or study.
This guy is a clown😂 Kudos to you for dealing with him and trying to spread awareness❤️
A clown for telling the truth are you serious you vegans can't even take a facts
You’re brainwashed. 🤡🤦♂️.
That guy had some serious child hood issues... wtf
Frank comes hard at Joey with his meat-based pseudoscience
Having zero interest in joining the vegan alliance
He's no nutritionist
Just a sorry oppositionist
Delusional in believing he's convincing with his defiance
Vegan Todd 🙌🏻
That was painful. Hahaha Joey, you are amazing! ❤️❤️
'You're not the same as a carrot' absolutely ded
"But you kill plants!" is one of the most lame excuses in the arsenal of deniers.
My brain hurts after that one.. Keep it up, Joey!
"You know the pyramid bro?"xD
Oh my...