Is BATIK AIR As Bad As People Say? 6 Hours on a Low Cost 737!
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- Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2022
- I was told this airline was terrible. I decided to book a flight on them anyway to see what they were like. I didn't expect this...
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"737 MAX is super duper safe, nothing else could possibly happen to these" sure didn't age well......
really sad how I heard this comment so much and how wrong everyone was.
Noel: “How will I survive a cramped six-hour flight on a narrowbody?”
Any American flying a coast-to-coast west-bound domestic flight: “That’s adorable.”
Or most flights to South America too. COPA is a 737 only company and they fly all the way to Chili BraIl and Argentina on 737 -800 and 900’s from Panama along with destinations across North America too
Especially on a 737. At least on an Airbus there’s a little bit more room. Also other countries don’t have to deal with the sheer number of big n’ wide people we have here. Not even just obese people just BIG MF’s
Lol, try flying from McGuire AFB, NJ to Rhein-Main AB/Frankfurt Intl on an old single aisle DC-8 with an extra 5 or more rows of seats crammed into it... Did that three times and the last 5 trips were on crammed in DC-10's...
*laughs in Ryanair*
@@andyreynolds6194 🤣
I love the fact that 4 and half hours of this flight is over Australia. This is something I remember every time I went to Singapore that 2/3rds of the flight was just spent crossing Australia!
Happy to see a new one! Had a very sad couple of weeks, and these trips always help, for whatever reason. 😊
The comments about the safety of the max 8 have aged well given the recent event... 😂
Looking forward to seeing how you continued your journey to Jakarta Noel but with no real worry. There are so many flights every day from Denpasar to Jakarta that you'd have to be astonishingly unlucky not to get a seat.
I flew Malindo from BKK to Melbourne in the premium cabin and loved it. Reminded me of upstairs in a 747.
Well that Boeing 737 Max comment didn’t age well.
Hi Noel another great vid. I’ve flown on the 737 max 8. A fantastic aircraft and I’ve always felt safe on them. It’s amazing how big Australia actually is. Remember flying from Bangkok to Sydney and most the flight was spent over Australia.
Also love the diddly squat t shirt!
Yeah, now you can. Because a few hundred poor souls had to pay the highest price before a greedy corporation changed their course and fixed that darn plane.
Fantastic aircraft? 😂 Its only fantastic at one thing, wrenching control from the pilots hands and nosediving itself into the ground. Should have stayed grounded.
i flew Malindo a few years ago before they renamed to batik. flight was from MEL-DPS return and it was a definite experience... given the price of the tickets it's hard to complain too much about the lack of service (it was like $400aud return after i added luggage etc)... if you're on a budget it's no worse than jetstar, but it's not something i'm keen to repeat personally :)
Great vlog as always! Keep up the good work. Be safe!
Thank you! Will do!
Thanks Noel for your willingness to be in claustrophobic position for 6 hours
great video mate keep em coming!
I loved the video a lot! Seeing airlines from places I've never been to is amazing, and that arrival was stunning! Denpasar is definitely only my list! I have always loved the MAX ever since it came out, and I still do! I've been on SO MANY MAX's in my time, and I've never felt anything less than 150% safer on them.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Max 8? You are braver than I am for flying one of those dangerous planes.
Noel brilliant review ! As an enthusiast there were some very exotic colour schemes to be seen on departure and arrival of your great Max8 flight .😀
Batik is the full service company of the Lion Air Group, Lion (a budget airline) is the Original airline from Indonesia, Malindo is the Malaysian Lion Air, Thai Lion is the Thai version of Lion Air and Wings is the 'budget' Lion Air (also flying local minor routes using ATR-72s).
Hey Noel, I recently flew this flight and had the opposite experience. It was bloody terrible. 2 hour delay leaving Brisbane, and almost missed by two connecting domestic flight/s within Indonesia. Incredibly stressful experience and I will simply pay extra for malay/Singapore next time.
Great share, I am glad you had better than expected experience with airline. As far as Max, I agree with your assessment. That said to bad you couldnt spend more time in Bali. That said I am surprised you had so many lines to go through. I been to bali many years ago. First time I did have Visa on Arrival, but I not even sure it took me 20 minutes to go from Airplane to baggage through customs and immigration including buying visa. More recent times, Bali no longer for Americans required such so very quick. That said, I havent been to Bali since they reopened due to covid, so that is understandably extra time.
Great and entertaining video as always Noel! I am by no means an expert on Batik Air Malaysia / Malindo Air but I believe that their new cabins do feature in-flight entertainment, but most of the MAX-8 aircraft are ex-Lion Air planes and have not been reconfigured for Batik Air Malaysia. The new cabins also feature Business Class recliner seats. And btw Batik Air Malaysia is Sortof a Hybrid airline unlike Lion Air which is low cost and sucks. Let’s hope they get that fixed soon since 6 hours without IFE… 😬 keep it up mate!
Wow, Brissy airport looked SO different - except for the tiled-floor arrival hall. Mind you, I was there circa 2003 or so. Glad your flight was pretty good, Noel - especially for such a tall, big westerner (no slights, mate, I've been there myself - and I was only 5'11" - but muscly - not a skeleton, so, to them, I was 'BIG".)
Enjoying your vids, mate. Cheers!
Wow, ace. At least the seats were comfy, sound vid Noel.
I agree! Your in economy more then most of the other travel channels out there for sure. 👍🏾
Thanks for taking us along Noel! Have to say I love your t-shirt! Didddly Squat Farm! Lol
Thanks for watching!
Hey Noel... Love the videos, and the sense of humor ;) With all these flights , what status are you holding on the airlines and is it worth attempting to get to those higher levels in order to be able to upgrade etc? Keep the videos coming , especially the ones where you are crammed in cos they are funniest haha
Thanks a lot Great Noel, I was wondering how you will jump over those two passengers to go for a loo review but actually you made.
I flew on a brand new 2022 Max 8 with Southwest. Very smooth ride. I got to ride on a -800 before hand and hands down the Max 8 was way more comfortable, and had more leg room with the slim seats.
Another great video! Looks like a good way fly. Beautiful new aircraft with nice seats.
Thanks!
Thanks for flying these airlines Noel. Always really interesting
My pleasure!
Thanks for sharing Noel 👍
My pleasure!
I had 6 and half hours on a Virgin Australian 737 from Christchurch in New Zealand to Melbourne in Australia & onto Brisbane,seating in economy was cramped but the food was very good though.
I flew Malindo in their "Business Class' fom KL to Bali to Melbourne. Had the exact same experience as you, incredibly impressive.
Hope you made it to Jakarta Noel. An absolutely amazing city. I hope to get back there one day in the near future.
Hi Noel, I thought you would fly from Brisbane to Perth, then take the 787 Dreamliner back home to London, a 17.5-hour flight.
Great video as always. Keep up the awesome work. Safe travels.
He did LHR-PER on a previous video, probably didn’t want to repeat
I'm glad that you thought the flight was good! I flew this exact route with Batik Air in September from Brisbane to Bali. The flight overall was decent, seats were comfortable enough, tickets were expensive but inflation what can you do, I just wish I knew about no inflight entertainment ahead of time. It made for a really boring flight but I downloaded some shows for the return flight.
Batik actually used to have a touchscreen monitor on every seat around 5-6 years ago. It was very entertaining. No idea why they removed it though.
You seem lucky to have quite a smooth landing. Most people experienced rough and hard landing when they touched down in Denpasar.
For the 737 max. I’ve been on a lot of them. Transport Canada had so many strict protocols for them to return to the sky so I definitely feel very safe on them!
how do you feel now?
Flying for six hours in economy isn't optimal, but it is certainly ok. That airline seems to have quite a good experience in economy. Thanks for showing this.
They’re really trying to dominate the market in a big way in parts of Australia, between Batik Indonesia and Batik Malaysia they’re currently running about 25 to 30 flights a week out of Perth to DPS and KUL and curiously applied for traffic rights to fly KUL-PER-AKL recently. Will be interesting to see where they’re at in the next few years particularly as some of the routes they want to fly really push the limits of the MAX 8’s range e.g KUL-MEL.
Batik Air should merge with Boutique Air and Lufthansa and form BaBuLu Airlines. And then Noel could do a BaBuLu Loo Review.
According to Wikipedia, Boeing planned to increase the MAX 8's range to 3,610 nmi after 2021 (but aircraft now in service have a range of 3,515 nmi); since the flying distance from KUL to MEL is 3,405 nmi, I wouldn't think the MAX 8 could fly this route given fuel reserve requirements.
@@rdbchase It starts in 2 weeks, OD174 / OD175. I'm real curious to see if they manage to pull it off without unscheduled fuel stops...
What happens if let’s say they are flying the MAX on the MEL-KUL route, and there is adverse weather at KUL and all the surrounding airports (let’s say there is a Peninsular Malaysia-wide rainstorm or something). What are they gonna do? It would already be almost out of fuel by then, is it not even a bit dangerous? Just curious
@@marcusianaviation9372 I think they limit the range of the MAX to the longest legal flight range before the usage of the final reserve fuel so they should be able to divert to say WMKJ or WMKP which are rather closeby, a roughly 30 mins flight from WMKK
I flew malindo a couple years ago, I quite liked it actually, after experiencing Vietjet airlines as a tall person
As a Perth based frequent flyer who often visits Asia, I find batik to be quite good as far as budget carriers. I would certainly choose them over Jetstar (unless I was flying out of somewhere I can take advantage of my Qantas membership)
Back when they used to serve food for free the barbecue chicken was fantastic. There planes can vary significantly unfortunately, most have inflight entertainment but don't provide headphones (back from their full service days I guess)
I knew this video is about Batik Air Malaysia and i track your flight to Bali actually. As an Indonesian viewer, Batik Air Indonesia and Malaysia are the full service airline of Lion Air Group and not a low cost. Before 9M-LRF, it was previously being operated by Lion Air but Lion Air doesn't want this plane anymore for a few reasons. Now, 9M-LRF is operated by Batik Air Malaysia previous name Malindo Air. I love this video👍
Interested to know why Lion Air didn’t want this plane
Not full service, meals, snacks and drinks not included in economy class.
Can someone inform me what is the best airline to fly from Jakarta to Bali Denpasar Airport ?
@@fpsnashamdan7362Garuda
it's nice to see that you were enjoying batik air. and about Lyon air they're known for their flight delays and cancelations, Lyon air is definitely one of the worst airways in Indonesia, for the best I'd say Garuda Indonesia. But overall great video, I enjoyed it. Keep it up :)
Garuda is the flagship carrier c’mon they are going to be the best for 🇮🇩 carriers
I actually appreciated your foray into Cebu Pacific’s all Economy A330, so I for one know that you’re NOT always in Business Class. Cheers and happy travels!
Hi Noel - just an idea, I think it would be interesting for us to see what routes the airlines you go on cover (see their route structure), and whether your flights are full or not. I'm not sure if you include the costs but that would be interesting as well. Thank you.
i too like riding on the max-8, very smooth
Don’t worry there are plenty of flights from DPS to CGK. You will get your connecting easily.
As an Aussie I’m be flown with malindo/batik air and it’s actually not bad. They serve a complimentary hot meal but no alcohol as they’re dry. Had IFE and usb charging for similar price to other airlines. Most other airlines flying to Indonesia from aus are budget carriers, some with even more questionable safety standards. I didn’t mind batik air
Love those late night, early morning shuttle airport puckups
Great report, Noel. Enjoyed your milk run. Stay safe.
Thank you!
Had a trans-Atlantic flight on Westjet 737-800 (not a MAX) seven and a half hours from Dublin to Toronto in September.
Somewhat odd as I flew on a Westjet 787 Dreamliner from Calgary to Dublin in early September.
Looking forwards to your see how you continued your flight.
If you come to Melbourne next time, I would gladly show you around such as dinner in Lygon Street and the drive down the Great Ocean Rd to Apollo Bay.
I flew the Max on Air Canada a couple of weeks ago. Great plane. Quiet and roomy. I hope Malaysian Batik is a safer operator than Indonesian operators. Flying Lion Air you deserve a medal.
batik air malaysia is very very different from lion air, yes owned by them true but certainly not the same as lion air
I love the Air Canada MAX 8! Have proudly flown it twice.
Bear in mind a year before the crash lion air where raising concerns about the 737 max and got told to shut up by Boeing and southwest
I’ve only ever flown one narrow body long haul and that was the 757 on LHR-EWR about 10 years ago. But I just can’t get my head around being in such a small space like a 737 for that long. Compared to my last transatlantic flight, a BA A380, it was so nice to have tall ceilings and wide cabins.
737-MAX .. means more time on a smaller-width airplane.
Last time I fly with batik/ malindo, there were entertaiment screen. Idk why they using non-entertaiment screen fleet for international haul flight like this. But I agree with the food, its decent and sometimes you had indian briyani/ tandoori, which really good.
Hi Noel! Love your videos. Love your voice!
Glad you like them!
@@noelphilips Thank you Lord!!!
I like your reports on the economy seats ... nice
Hey Noel, thanks for another great video, Just looking at the food, and you've been so many places, have to managed to avoid food poisoning? Not a name and shame but you either have ayou had bad airline food that you felt unwell after?
You seemed to have been very comfortable on that flight giving everything a good report. It was interesting to see the attractive airport in Bali - I was there on a Qantas stopover once on a dark and stormy night, and as we flew out towards Australia all I could think was "if this plane goes down, that ocean is full of sharks".
Apart from no legroom.....?
@@habu179 He seemed OK with the legroom.
@@janettesinclair6279 Seemed......
@@habu179 he literally said “I’ve got plenty of legroom, even at 6”4” 16:25
@@francoiss6911 Check the video dummy....his knees are brushing the seat infront (regardless of what he says) believe what you see and not what you hear !
I did this in 2009 with Virgin Australia quite a haul in a 737 they were Virgin Blue back then
You should start introducing the bell challenge. How long does it take for them to get to you.
I had a chance to ride a MAX 8 Between Gatwick and Faro, Portugal (Both ways) with Tui last month. As my previous flight 6 years prior was in an A380 (BA), I was very surprised to find the little aircraft to be just as (if not slightly more) comfortable than the latter.
I think an A380 would probably overshoot into the sea at Faro !! A320 ?
@@roycarpenter6380 My A380 flight was to Los Angeles back in 2016. Perhaps, I should have clarified.
Adama : you do realize that the aircraft operator determines how comfortable the plane is, not the aircraft manufacturer, right? I suppose you knew, but you just wanted to do some Airbus bashing 😂
Welcome to my beautiful country Indonesia, Noel.
We have tons of beautiful airport such as Ngurah Rai Bali, Yogyakarta Intl Airport, and the busiest airport of Soekarno Hatta Jakarta as well as our great National Flag Carrier Garuda Indonesia.
The Pullman is one of my favs in Brissy
8:00 aaah, F-28. Really miss the pair of those RR Spey's *howl*
One time I missed my flight from Yogyakarta to Denpasar with Lion air, and bought a ticket with Batik air going to Jakarta first then Bali. I've flown few domestic flight in other countries, mostly US and Canada, gotta say Batik is probably the best domestic flight experience I've had. Their chair is spacious, has a screen for movies and games, and the plane is very empty for some reason (on my flight back to jogja lion air was really packed). I hit so many home runs on their baseball game too, wish they'd keep my record because all the top 10 was my record. Definitely won't mind to fly again, even surprised to learn that is a bad reputation budget airline.
If you haven't already done so (and I don't think you have) you should try to fly Luxair one of these days. I would be very interested what you make of them. 🙂
hey noel !! what is the tracking app you use IN flights ? at 15:40???
Hello Noel. Great videos. Could you tell me when you booked and paid for the flight? Malindo's website itself only mentioned 'from A$569 fares' for BNE to DPS. Thanks
love your t shirt lovely flight i always relax when i fly with you greetings from the netherlands
Thank you very much!
Batik Air is a standard/regular service airliner, although it's under the same group with Lion Air, its elder brother, which is the oldest LCC in Indonesia (that still alive). After Lion Air successfully rule in Indonesia sky, they wanted to broaden their strength in upper segment, so they make Batik Air. Still, the quality cannot be compared with Indonesia flag carrier, Garuda Indonesia. They are operates on much .. much higher standard.
We unfortunately had to go on a Batik Air flight as Turkish Airlines use them on some flights to Australia. It was more basic than Ryanair and I was pretty annoyed we had to buy food and drinks not knowing anythjng anout the airline!
It’s very sad what happened to all those people on the Max incidents
Absolutely tragic and preventable
Another great vid. Just a question, what flight tracker do you use in-flight that uses gps?
That'd be nice to know
The people complaining about you only flying business class..is ridiculous..apparently they don't watch enough of your wonderful channel. So happy you and your family live in America now..
Welcome!!!!
I flew some years ago on Batik Air Indonesia, it was a delightful flight, a new plane, very attentive service, very delicious spicy food. My main complaint about Lion Air was airport side customer service. Absolutely useless, could not pay with a US based credit card. When credit card payment was possible, charged exorbitant commission for credit card payment. But the product itself ie the flight, crew, food, state of planes was very, very good. I have flown on Lion Air more than 15 times.
You make a very good point on the max 8 actually. If anything was to happen to another Boeing would be screwed. So they have done the most checks to any plane in the world to make it certified again. But I still would feel more nervous getting on one then a normal 737 as to me for Boeing to even let the max fly without all this stuff at first makes me fear what else they could be cheaping out on. I know they wouldn't as it would ruin Boeing just a psychological thing I think.
That aged like milk😅
@@steffenp7817 Yikes. I mean I did say I didn't think Boeing would let it happen but they have...
Flew Malindo and Batik a few years ago from Perth to KL return. no problems, used to be full service though. just flew with Batik from KL to Perth recently, not full service but brand new 747 max, lovely plane, price was reasonable compared to the little poison dwarfs airline. will fly again with them..... Customer service is absolute crap though !!!
Hi Noel - Just as a point of interest, do you ever have problems filming at the airport (s)?
Crew competence is the biggest issue with certain airlines, personally I would not have a problem with the B737 Max 8 as an aircraft
Flew on a Ryanair max 8 recently felt totally safe
Now that you are on this side of the pond, have you thought of doing IAH to ANC on United, or maybe PTY to SFO on COPA? I know the COPA flight is 7 hours on a 737 Max or 900.
Thanks for this vlog. Fly and stay safe. Happy weekend. Ciao.
Thank you!
@@noelphilips you’re welcome!
Loved the Rex video, was hoping you were going to do a few more flights or train trips whilst in Australia :( Will you be back anytime soon?
As a Top Gear/ Clarkston fan I love the Diddily Squat Shop t-shirt.
And they're internatonal aircraft do sometimes malindo uses their domestic aircraft for international flights
Love the Jezza Clarkson diddly squat t shirt 👍
"They marked you as 2"
Noel "I thought I lost weight" 😆😅🤣
Yeah thanks for the Solomon Airline A320 at 7:53, my country's airline. try us some time!
Love the t-shirt!!
Perth to bali $113 bag meal included i couldnt say no
On the return flight was 11pax only
Unfortunately seems now no free meal or baggage
I flew Indonesia’s Lion Air domestic flight from Jakarta to Pontianak. The experience was below average. It just literally transport you from point A to B. Thats it. Didn’t expect anything else. Wanted to pre-book my meal online but somehow the website for that feature was disabled. Probably they only encourage people to buy it on board. But when they started to do the onboard sale, I guess the only thing that is available is cup noodles and selections of beverages.
Then the online check in was only available 12hrs before departure. I remember when I had to wait sometimes till 1am or 2am to access the website to do the online check in. And had to wake up early to check out then go to the airport etc etc. 😢😢
Then during boarding, it was chaotic. The flight attendant will refrain you from arranging your own hand carry items at the overhead compartment. They literally shouted at you and said “owh just leave it there and have a sit. We will arrange it for you”… when u reached the destination, you will only to find out that your hand carry item was elsewhere (on top of the seat, few rows behind or at the front!) 😂😂😂
Adelaide International Airport (YPAD) 4am open, coffee available at that time also pity that Brisbane is so behind us here in Adelaide (yes I'm from Adelaide)
Malindo was one of my chosen way to fly to Australia. It's hugely better than Lionair. They used to have A320's. All seats had video screens. What a disappointment they changed. Noel, I live in Jakarta if you have need of a tour guide. LOL
Batik Air Indonesia mengoprasikan Boeing dan Airbus. Sedangkan Batik Air Malaysia mengoprasikan Boeing dan ATR. Semua Boeing Max Lion Air di transfer ke Batik Air Malaysia karena penumpang Indonesia takut untuk menaikinya meskipun telah dinyatakan aman. Tetapi traumatis orang indonesia terhadap hal buruk itu sulit dihilangkan bahkan sampai ke generasi ke 2. Karena pada dasarnya orang indonesia ingatan tentang hal buruk dan baik akan selalu dikenang sampai mati. Ini yang sulit bagi operator Lion Air mempertahankan Max di indonesia.
What app do you use to check your in flight location thanks
good report ...and , you're courageous flying with Lion Air 😜🤙..fly safe...😉
Thanks 👍
At 15:50 - were you using GPS? How? I can never get any GPS reception on my phone when I'm on a plane.
Don't find the coach seats on the Max very comfortable. Our latest trip was a daytime YHZ/LHR to avoid an overnight flight out of YYZ. WardAir started the daytime flights back in the 80s and they were operated by Canadian then Air Canada. But haven't come back yet post pandemic. Flying the MAX SAN/YYZ in a couple weeks in coach as can't take our dogs into the J class cabin because of the seats and lack of roomunder the seat.
What a pleasant journey.
A new adventure indeed begins in a new place for you, Indonesia even if that stay may only be short! but one day, you'll hit up the new capital Nusantara in just 2 years time! You just may be back there one day!
bought a ridge wallet years before you advertised it. finally broke it abd bought another. proapably cvould have done the thing to have them fix it but why worry. i like it and bought annother:) they are good!