Good things come in big packages at MeUndies. Get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping, at meundies.com/saberspark So what do you all think about Velma now that it is technically over?
No one can convince me that the team behind Velma didn't steal the idea of a dog killing off the MC from that parody video with over 12M views on RUclips
Okay, in their defense, animation takes time, so it's not too likely they stole the idea, since they were probably underway making it when the Avacado video dropped. But the similarities are still weird. EDIT: Accidentally replied to one of the bots rather than the original comment, fixed that now.
The fact that them trying to redo the "scrappy is evil" bit by having him kill velma managed to actually sort of break the curse and redeem him in the eyes of many scooby doo fans is honestly very impressive, I hope we get more heroic scrappy in the future just to further spite the velma show
The problem with scrappy was just that he was annoying and poorly written. I really could have liked him if he wasn't so insufferable but he was just SO irritating as a kid. I think if they'd just played him a litttttle bit differently, not done the "PUPPY POWER" thing, he could have been a good enough character.
It’s like that one tumblr post about why people hate annoying characters, yet love characters who have committed heinous acts: the warcrimes are fake, but your annoyance is real
The fact they got Frank Welker, the original voice of Fred, to participate in a show where (for much of it) they drag his character through the mud is such a slap in the face.
I agree It's like having Frank be Megatron or Soundwave and treating both of them like shit It's worse then what happened to Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime in the live action films
But he's not a villain. He's a hero this time. If the writers say he's a villain, just remember that their main character is a misandrist racist heterophobic asshole.
Masterful twist? More like mean-spirited point-missing. They took an attempt to appeal to kids and turned him into a grating monstrosity whose early "death" was meant to be cheered by the audience.
I have not seen any Scooby Doo show or movie (that I can remember) and have only watched 2 reviews of Scooby Doo media. This show and the movie that came out in 2002. In both of those Scrappy Doo was the surprise villain. Is that just his thing, that he is always the surprise villain? It seems like it would get much less surprising pretty fast because now that he is 2 for 2 I am going to suspect him every time he shows up If I ever see him in anything.
What I don't understand is that she didn't want to put Scooby-Doo into the show but yet it's okay for them to put Scrappy in the show. And what they did to him was absolutely ridiculous
I think it's because Scrappy was already a hated character so they thought whatever they do with him doesn't matter. Ironically though, they made Scrappy a well loved character now because of what they made him do.
Warner Bros didn't want to risk them ruining their Mascot (smart decision) so they gave HBO the rights to Velma on the condition Scooby would not be included, Scrappy was never a very popular character and widely regarded as annoying so they probably didn't care if his character was ruined.
Oops, all bots! Technically, WB didn't want Scooby in the show because they didn't want to ruin the character for the kids. I guess they didn't care too much about Scrappy because of his bad reputation with the franchise.
It’s utterly insane how we got Megamind 2, Megamind Rules, Madame Web, Good Times, and Velma S2 all in 2024 and we’re not even halfway through the year
Now I'm picturing Scooby as Iroh speaking before singing "Leaves From the Vine" 😂 "I'm rawry I riddent rotect roo my run...." Reeves rum the rhine...💔🎶😢
My one question about these dislike farms is why ask “who asked” to comments that aren’t a question? It just looks sad that they try to plug an irrelevant channel using what looks like SPAM not realising half of the people wouldn’t even be able to even follow the link even if they wanted to, most people would just not do it out of spite
Scrappy-Doo is the true hero of this series we never knew we needed, and has truly redeemed himself. I only wish he could've mauled Velma's ghost to death too.
@@thusnameddigital9397At this rate, they're going to have to rename the trope, and I don't know that many characters defined like Scrappy in that literally nobody likes them, especially not to 2000s/2010s Scrappy degrees
My perferct ending for Velma would be Fredd finally getting enough of it all, running away with the mistery Machine, passing through a portal where he meets modern versions of the original Scooby Doo cast and joining their gang, living happy in a place that doesn't treat him like shit
I am actually friends with someone who works behind the scenes of the show. They are part of the story developing department and they told me that the relationship between the head writers and producers...aren't good to say the least. It's been chaos. And Mindy Kaling is the main culprit.
Well… I‘m not surprised that Mindy was the problem. She has as much acting talent as James Corden. Aka it isn’t really acting if she plays herself Update: Typo corrected
@@BenTheBakedBean I never hated him personally when I was younger, but now that I’m older I find him annoying. A lot of fans of Scooby do hate him for it
@@aspen4786I think it was mystery incorporated that had a scene with Daphne pointing out a Scrappy statue and Fred told her that they promised they'd forget about him or something.
Bros really into kids cartoons Edit: Originally named attention seeker but got caught by siblings Holy sh these 3 now 4replies fell for it despite the whole comment
The fact that this version of Velma was so hated that people celebrated her murder at the hands of Scrappy mothertrucking Doo is both hilarious and frightening.
'Thos show doesn't feel like a love letter...' Yea it feels like those whiplash texts you get from creeps on dating apps who swing wildly between off color comments, 'quicky' humor, and threatening, unhinged rants about how people don't 'get' them
Damn, to think the savior of this bastardization of a beloved classic would be scrappy mfing doo himself. Dude clawed his way up from the underbelly of the franchise after years of obscurity just to smite the false velma. A beautiful tale of tragedy and redemption.
The thing about making Thorn old is that the Hex Girls should be around the same age as the mystery gang. Making them old IS just spiteful to fans like the rest of the show.
Yeah. This is really oversimplifying the issue. Like yes call them out for being angry at the wrong people.... But like try to understand why people are angry in the first place? Like it's basically his job to do just that. Thorn encapsulates some of the issues this show has and he just ignores it.
I think it comes down to WHY did they age up Thorn? Because for one thing, she's not old, she's in her like what, late thirties, early forties? Like... ya know... a lot of Scooby Doo fans? I feel super gross defending this show for literally anything but I do want to at least say there IS the possibility out there they could have done this to be like "Hey here's a hot version of a Hex Girl for the people who are now in their late thirties and forties who can be like 'Wow this is someone who's hot, a Hex Girl, and in my age range, NICE!" But, I haven't (and will not) see the episode, I've only seen these clips of her in this review and from what I SEE it doesn't look like they made her gross and unattractive or anything, still hot just older. I'm just very much on the side of de-stigmatizing women aging and my kneejerk suspicion is that a lot of the backlash is due to "ew they made look not 18" rather than anything else. Edit: After talking with MewGirlZ I believe my comment would be better served in saying "I think it comes down to WHY are people reacting to the aging up of Thorn as angrily as they are?" rather than attempting to analyze the creators' intent, since without knowing that it's really not something that's worth attempting to explain or attempt to justify. I do think it is important to acknowledge and analyze the factoring of stigmatization of aging, especially women aging, in the fan reactions regardless of the creators and their intentions.
@@HiddenDarkHM Nah. She is just old. This is not what anyone would describe as "hot" by any conventional standards. And how obsessed people are with milfs nowadays there were way to make her hot and still look way over 30 or 40. lol
@@HiddenDarkHM I understand where you're coming from, but given how mean-spirited and offensive the show tries to be in every other regard, I don't think there's a modicum of good intent behind it. I appreciate the perspective and 100% agree that destigmatizing the concept of aging needs to happen. I just have a hard time imagining that that's what they were going for here. They could have done a lot worse to Thorn than making her older, yes, but when has this show included anything else even remotely serviceable to the established Scooby Doo fanbase? I wouldn't trust Mindy Kaling to be in charge of trying to be respectful and nuanced with a classic character if she was the last person in the professional entertainment industry.
@@HiddenDarkHM wrong demographic to do that to, in my opinion. As you say in the end, the only thing many people woud take away from this choice Is "eww she doesn't look like a teen anymore and therefore is unf*ckable"
The fact they had scrappy doo kill Velma feels like someone knew this was going to be awful. Because it says something to have the most disliked meme character kill off your main character. You cant tell me that was not done at least in part as catharsis
Mindy Kaling was born a rich nepo-baby. Yet in the show, her self-insert is "poor", and it feels like she's larping as disadvantaged when she wasn't. She pretends she's this underdog fighting the rich but she is rich and always has been. She also postures as progressive, but has a VERY problematic past.
Feels like Mindy likes to pretend to have "marketable" traits. Underdog & progressive... She's basically the concept of "shallow platitudes" in human form.
I feel as though it had a part in it though. The more revenue, the better. A deal can be broken so easily. This was also funded enough by all the people watching it to the point of it being the number 1 watched show on Max, which is why I think it does, but also, to your point, it did have a deal, so... Take it how you will I suppose.
Hate watch isn't enough to keep a show like this alive.. it's too boring for that, must people will just watch reviews like this video and call it a day. This "second season" was already paid and in production, but even then they just released it in a batch cause no one would watch this shit weekly @@raymanfreak7739
@@tydyman2003 Well, what I'm saying is that it may have had some sort of a part in it. If it had flopped as hard as, let's say Bowser's Inside Story 3DS, then I doubt they'd go through with the deal at that point. It's hard to say for sure though because some companies can be stubborn. Never really know what could happen behind the scenes. So for all we know, it could have become canned at a point in time if it didn't catch on and got infamous.
@@raymanfreak7739 Imagine you get payed in advance and they ask you to do 20 episodes for said salary. They couldn’t get out of the deal, otherwise they‘d lost money This is why episodes of Velma were made despite being of terrible quality; Mindy K.‘s pocket money already went to their conto, and now they have to deliver their services like a contract
@UTTPWorldPolice you guys and you’re dumb thing you’re doing made fun of a guy dying from cancer and made fun of Technoblade dying. Y’all are just a bunch of attention seeking morons You don’t have any Dads Because they went to get milk.
Velma's version of Thorn makes me uncomfortable to be honest. Part of it just feels, like, it's not just that they aged her up, it's that she feels like a stereotype of a 30-40 year old "hippie". They give her very little character and what character I have gleaned feels... Ehh immature? Ditzy maybe? And it doesn't feel coincidental that they chose to make her like that, the wiccan character, one of the only wiccan characters I have ever seen in children's media. I'm not wiccan so I can't speak for them, but personally, it made me a little uncomfortable that they were taking a beloved character from a marginalized faith and treating her like a fanciful idiot.
who would have thought that after so many years of being despised, scrappy was finally able to become the main protagonist by killing off 1 of the most hated characters on 1 of the most hated shows of all time. congrats on your redemption arc scrappy
wait.... scrappy doo shows up and kills velma? Didn't Avacado Animations make a parody of Velma of that happening? Where scooby and scrabby-doo were the same and she was killed over and over again?
I think it was like, ever so often in timelines, the Scooby crew would become self aware, and have to be killed by Scooby, where he then restarts everything to try again
You cannot convince me that Velma wasn't a deliberately bad attempt to parody "woke media". They just got it so horribly wrong that it's hated by both sides of the political spectrum.
@@bjornskivids she’s not self aware enough to be empathetic to others. it makes perfect sense she would make a parody of what they view as “woke” content
To be fair I and likely others would disapprove of the Hex girl cameo regardless of what she looked like. On account of the key fact this all got greenlit but the Hex girl movie was completely cancelled 😅. Kinda like pouring acid in a fresh wound.
I'm mad about the in universe lore because the Hex Girls aren't supposed to be that much older than the mystery gang. They could have had Thorn play the role they gave to her daughter and it annoys me to no end. Though you're right, I don't think they could have included the Hex Girls in any way and not get backlash. The spite is still so palpable.
@@beanieb0b "and then my self-insert character died!" (everybody cheers) "... wait no-" Like god, Mindy girl, refleeeeeect and improve yourself pleaaase I'm begging you.
@@davidmccall4024 At the risk of waxing philosophical I am an unshakable believer that anyone can change, grow, and improve, even the worst of us, we just have to make the choice and no matter how awful the person, even the most evil of people do at least have the tiniest sliver of potential to choose to make the choice to try to change for the better. It's easier for some, harder for others, but the potential is always there.
I would say "don't hate watch" but that has proven to have the opposite effect via reverse psychology unknowingly, considering it got into the top 5 in US Max. I think the true saying is: "watch something else."
Classic case of "good or bad publicity is still publicity", which is why this show got second season without second thought, hate watch only made it stronger lmao
Might be the strangest take away here, but just looking at the animation for all the body melting, the possessions and other gory clips in this video, the people who drew this and coloured this, if separated from the Mindy or have no attachment to the writing staff, I'd love to see them do a Scooby Apocalypse run.
shoutout to anyone who worked on this show who has to explain away any gap in their employment in the field on their resume by explaining that's what they were working on
Thing is, if they animated any of the horror scenes they really ought to be featured prominently on their portfolios and demo reels. Or if they’re the background painters. It’s not like they made the trash scripts, and a lot of the art is great!
It feels like they are trying to do what Smilling Friend did, but without the unique appearance and world design that come with the weird thing that is happening in the show.
Strictly speaking 95% of actors seem that way, but a lot of them get away with it. Like Bill, Murray has apparently been a complete jackass to work with for the last 20 years, but we've let it slide. So I guess if people think you're funny, even if you're not you can get away with it. But people didn't think Mindy kaling was funny, despite the fact that her and Bill Murray's humor is basically the same, but like making fun of the opposite groups.
It pisses me off that they decided to release both more of this and Teen Titans Go but NOT the Coyote Vs Acme movie that everyone said was the greatest movie of all time
they do this because people keep hate-watching. they don't care about the actual quality of the content, if people are hate watching and talking about the thing and pushing it they're getting their traffic and clicks
Ding dong, the witch is dead! And she's food for the buzzards! Three cheers for Scrappy! Sorry we were so hard on you all those years ago! Who's a good boy? You are! Yes you are!
The whole Hex Girl thing genuinely confuses me though. The original Scooby Gang had Velma as 15, Shaggy and Fred at 17 and Daphne at 16. Which appears to be about the same ages they are here in this show. So..... The Hex Girl aged up from early to mid 20's to looking like maybe mid 40's.... but literally nobody else did? I mean, that actually doesn't make sense. But then again, nothing in this show makes sense. I still genuinely believe Mindy did this just to make people angry and try to ruin Scooby Doo.
I could care less that she was aged up its the fact that in other scooby media the hex girls are conventionally attractive, now she looks like a disheveled hippie woman who thinks shes hot and still hip with the kids, when in reality she is far from that
I took it as they're trying to get the kids who watched the Witch's Ghost originally and are now in their 30s/40s as a way to relate to the Hex Girls being their age in the show. Like a weird nod
Take what I’m about to say with a grain of salt but I’ve heard other people say that Velma was originally a original show with no ties to Scooby-Doo but because WB was nervous to make a new IP they instead made it into a Scooby-Doo show.
This show has a lot of "I am not Starfire" energy. That type of self-insert media that you've seen snippets of and could swear is just a fan-project at most, but eventually realize has full-on studio support as they shove it next to truly great shows and try to convince you that you have no taste and it's actually the best thing since sliced bread. The James Corden of animation, really...
It’s actually hilarious that the new most hated character in scooby doo (this Velma self insert) got killed by the old most hated character in scooby doo (Scrappy doo) Velma made Scrappy look pleasant
@@mariethefan If you don't know who they are, you're probably better off that way, because these guys are more than just comment section spammers. There's actually some awful people in their "community".
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THIS!!!!!!!! Like they’re gonna make more cuz they’re gonna see that they’re getting viewed and attention so I just wouldn’t even hate watch
I'll say it like this the reason people are so mad about the hex girl thing is because the girl looks more older then what she should look like as the ones from the original are believed to be in there twenties to mid twenties. They made this girl look like ozzy osborn at his current age.
There is really no point of this being one of the Hex girls other then to shoehorn in another Scoody doo reference. She could’ve just been any random goth, occult leader, or former band member of whatever and it would’ve had the same impact, she barely appears in general. There was no point of this being Thorn or of the hex girls.
Yea it's weird as the hex girls were the same age as the gang... so shouldn't thorn be velmas age? They could even get more material out of a high school goth instead of a washed up rocker.
@@fireflybutton1939 I wouldn't say the same age if anything they weren't far apart i'd give five or eight years. Also what is with the uti thing above? kinda reminds me of the maximilianmus shit before on youtube with that toxic dude.
SCRAPPY! From being a funny side character as Scoob’s nephew, to being a super villain with urinary problems, he’s finally back doing us all some good.
Okay killing off Velma at the end of the season definite proof that they know exactly what they were making from the very start because that’s the only way people would watch season two
Btw, the practice buying a long season and breaking it into two EXTREMELY common. Nearly every studio and every show does this now. If you see an announcement of a second season/release date for a show within a few short months of the first finishing airing, then it's likely it was done this way. They do this to avoid having to pay artists more when a season gets renewed, since there's union rules regarding it.
If I had a nickel for every time Scrappy was the surprise twist main villain in a Scooby Doo IP...I'd have two nickels...which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Think you could add a third one, as Scrappy was a villain in the Scooby Apocalypse comic, which I'm convinced is where the Velma writers got their idea for him, since he's ALSO a genetically-engineered monster there.
I don't hate Velma because it's "woke", I hate it because Mindy Kaling is losing her goddamn mind and thinks writing for the office makes her capable of carrying big network shows on her shoulders. She should have figured out by the Mindy Project that injecting television with her narcissism wasn't going to make success. People didn't love the Office because of Mindy, they loved it because of Steve and his job acting as Michael. Kelly was the same kind of person as Mindy, so it wasn't very skillful to do that acting. Her relationship with Ryan as Kelly is pretty much the exact same as her relationship with Danny in TMP. Narcissism is not talent, sadly.
The thing is... you can do all sorts of "woke" projects, as long as you do it with actual love for the art and the audience. "Velma" might be a work of narcissism, but it's not even a work of self-love. It's detached, self-loathing and only there to feed into the outrage-machine. Even if the actors match the ethnicity of their characters - who wants to be represented by SUCH characters?
Woke is a 100% legit reason to hate it though. Its just that in velma s case,being woke pales in comparison to other problems. Like comparing acne to skin câncer.
So reminder the reason why scooby doo is not in velma Is because scooby doo is what makes a kids show a kids show But Scrappy doo as a evil super soldier monster thing going on a rampage is allowed on velma ?
Look let’s just be glad Scooby Doo was left out. We wouldn’t want him to be figuratively butchered like the rest of the cast. Also dang it this comment section is infested with bots.
I can‘t deal with the fact that Velma, one of the most hated shows ever by literally everybody get’s a second season, but Our Flag Means Death doesn‘t get a third one. I will always be salty about that
2:10 The most hated character in the history of hated characters Actually redeemed themselves???? I can't actually I'm saying it but Good job Scrappy!!!!
Hey, i guess even the most hated characters of fiction can redeem themselves, if they just try! Well, except the the rest of _the..._ Whole_ cast..._ And uh... *Y'know what? Nevermind."*
That feeling when you are literally such a loathsome character that you by-proxy accidentally redeem one of the most hated characters in children's animation history.
And Velma’s relationship with Daphne is so toxic and terrible. There chemistry just sucks. The fact Iscream and Fwench Fwy have a healthier relationship and they are a demon and wish dragon from heaven, literally opposites and they make it work.
Mindy Kaling made Evil Scrappy to shout, "DON'T LOVE THE DOG!!! SEE!!! IT'S BAD!!! LOVE ME INSTEAD!!!" and everyone is cheering that Minda/Velma dies. Well, at least we don't really care anymore so the hate watching will stop or slow down tremendously so the show won't have a season 3 (hopefully).
Thank you for saying all the nice comments about the artist. I was a character designer on this project and the art team was great to work with. Honestly a well oiled machine compared to the other projects ive work on.
tbh I generally really like the character designs in the show, I could have seen them being used in a much better written show and nobody batting an eye. Solid work
Saberspark the problem with the race swapping is that they use it as a shield by saying if you don't like it it's racism, not that they have shitty written.
Not only that but it is a lazy way to go about representation. Making new characters with appealing personalities and their own goals requires actual effort while on the flip side picking any random white character and simply changing their skin tone requires no effort at all.
@@PeterGriffin11I mean that's absolutely not true if anything Since people take "white" as the default the thousands of variations that drastically add nothing are the norm Versus a race swap where there very existence is put into question and is usually done to add a diffrent context to the character For a long time Miles was shat on as just black Peter despite contributing to the new motif of Spiderman being a symbol and not just a single individual For Example not the first colored Velma nor the first Bisexual Velma but just as a premise people threw a lot of racist remarks before the show Same as Norville the issue with him is just he's boring but in the hands of better writers there was a good premise It's actually harder to do race swap especially with the reactionary crowd and people victimize themselve while being racist or sexist
My primary issue wasnt even the race thing. It was all the characters felt flat or so self centered. Then we get into it and all the political social commentary, the most things that important to the mystery goes bit by bit until some big reveal they tended to stumble upon. And that is why it felt unneeded to race swap. Heck call it anything but velma and it may have taken off with others. Then add the treatment for the ghost attacks. Oh no make me laugh or I have to eat to stop this. A potato chip or a half ass laugh isnt going to stop a panic attack on the level it nearly killed one of them from the shock. Then add they tried to make fred unlikable but he was the most relatable if you can say that. Heck even his dad had more character change in one episode then most of them did. Well save norville after this brain thing. But the show felt like nothing is really given time to develop and the things that should be to feel good was ham hawked and rushed. The only thing I grew to not mind was the animation the ghosts felt like a real thing but wasted on insulting mental health. Then as to the hex girl cameo. The only thing I saw most disliking was she almost looks like she took meth. Or something idk but seeing velma scoff at the idea of the occult felt weird to just to get to eat crow when she died. I didnt mind the lead hex girl cameo save the interactions felt odd. But hopefully if they make anymore they get someones help to fix the writing. Because it hurt my head most the time listening to the interactions.
@@demonking-zm3rs I disagree. Most people don't complain about race swapping because their racist but because it's lazy representation and hypocritical as well. Usually people who say race doesn't matter are the same people who would complain if any black character had their race changed to anything else. Race swapping of any kind is always going to be controversial and divisive. I think A better solution would be to stop race swapping characters and just makes new ones. Also in the case of Miles Morales. I know some people didn't like him in the comics because of how they killed off peter to introduce him and when Peter did inevitably come back people weren't fond of how he was characterized and felt that his personality was off and some people felt that the writers were making Peter unlikable to make Miles look better. People aren't always going to immediately like new characters but overtime once Miles came into his own people warmed up to him.
I'm convinced that Scrabby broke into this version of Velma's reality to unironically end this evil version to save us all from any more embarrassment.
I think Mindy is better Afterall, Mindy plays herself because no one can see Velma in this ‚Velma‘. And I think it should serve as a signal to how we think of her now…
@@EngineerMonkeyBTD6 What is the ‚Hard R‘ supposed to mean? Does it stand for ‚r@cist‘? Or for something completely different? And all what OP said was ‚Velmer‘… I don’t see anything wrong with it by looking at it
I call it, "Mindy's Mysteries." Because the show is so far removed from anything recognizably Scooby-Doo, that it's pretty much just Scooby Doo in name only. Had it not have the Scooby-Doo branding slapped to it, I bet people wouldn't hate it as much. Oh, they'll still hate it, but not as bad.
Can’t even use the Hex Girls thing as a reference cause they’re supposed to be around Mystery Inc.’s age. No, what they did to Thorn was on purpose Saber.
Yeah, can't agree with Saber Spark on this one. I _could_ see them aging up the Hex Girls, but unless the entire point is "Thorn has had a rough career as a Hex Girl, which is why she's done with it now that she's 40-to-50 years old." *and* this was a plot point... fans would still be annoyed, but Saber's reasoning would hold. *Doesn't sound like that's how Thorn's being used.* I also don't know if her character is _supposed_ to be that old and having lived the self-destructive rock/punk/whatever kind of life. Given the series, I'm inclined to think 1) Someone had a friend _they think_ looked like Thorn and so drew that friend as Thorn and... well... ouch. 2) One of those people who used to "fix" art by making characters "more relatable" e.g. unattractive was in charge of Thorn's design. However, I reserve the right to be wrong, cause I am *not* watching this show. I mean, I don't even have Netflix anymore. XD
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So what do you all think about Velma now that it is technically over?
I told you not to do that video on Reddit and you did anyway.
yo you got bots in your replies bud
Yo dude, some UTTP Guys raidin. Report them or smth.
I think you need to do something about the bots in the comments here
Begone, bot
No one can convince me that the team behind Velma didn't steal the idea of a dog killing off the MC from that parody video with over 12M views on RUclips
I thought of that video immediately too! That short video is so much better than the entirety of the Velma series
Okay, in their defense, animation takes time, so it's not too likely they stole the idea, since they were probably underway making it when the Avacado video dropped. But the similarities are still weird.
EDIT: Accidentally replied to one of the bots rather than the original comment, fixed that now.
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You mean the one from Avocado Animations? THAT was a cool twist on Scooby Doo for adults, in contrary to whatever train wreck this show is.
@UTTPGeneralOrange oh my flipping god- you uttp people are so annoying (dont even get me started on the discord.)
*Scrappy Kills this version of Velma*
Everybody to Scrappy: "Perhaps I treated you too harshly"
Shut up bot!!
As someone who never hated scrappy I feel vindicated.
@@3RatsInsideATrenchcoati would rather watch velma 💀
@@bladeexe so wait, why did people hate scrappy in the first place?
I never hated him
The fact that them trying to redo the "scrappy is evil" bit by having him kill velma managed to actually sort of break the curse and redeem him in the eyes of many scooby doo fans is honestly very impressive, I hope we get more heroic scrappy in the future just to further spite the velma show
They scrappyed the idea
The problem with scrappy was just that he was annoying and poorly written. I really could have liked him if he wasn't so insufferable but he was just SO irritating as a kid. I think if they'd just played him a litttttle bit differently, not done the "PUPPY POWER" thing, he could have been a good enough character.
@@HiddenDarkHM It's interesting that, compared to the characters in Velma, Scrappy would be even acceptable.
So Warner cancels a spiderverse styled Batman beyond show but they green light this..
Wow
They cancelled it? I thought they didn't greenlit it yet?
@@BuryTheLight-tds no they straight up said no
@@BuryTheLight-tdsThey didn't cancel it but they haven't green lit yet.
@@jtcustoms4297 Yep exactly, dunno what OP's talking about. It was just a Proof of Concept, it's up to Daddy Gunn and the others to greenlit it.
I see this is why Scrabby-doo was created. He waited 45 years to fulfill his purpose
My farts are better than Saberfart's farts.
Man, I wish youtube actually banned bots. I bet it's not even that difficult to do.
@@thegalacticfederation1212
Same brotha
Man was just having fun while waiting, can't blame him
Scrappy had fulfilled his glorious purpose during this series
It’s like that one tumblr post about why people hate annoying characters, yet love characters who have committed heinous acts: the warcrimes are fake, but your annoyance is real
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Exactly, it's all about enjoyment
Sukuna in a nutshell
the warcrimes are based
The fact they got Frank Welker, the original voice of Fred, to participate in a show where (for much of it) they drag his character through the mud is such a slap in the face.
I agree
It's like having Frank be Megatron or Soundwave and treating both of them like shit
It's worse then what happened to Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime in the live action films
He better be getting paid well
I get the feeling that Frank separated himself from his characters a long time ago. Fred is probably more of a job than a D&D character for him.
To be fair, Welker's SUCH a legend that this is barely a dent in his legacy.
Evil cannot create, evil can only corrupt whats good
The live action Scooby-Doo already used Scrappy as the secret villain. You can’t do a masterful twist like that more than once
No no you misunderstand - Scrappy is the hero here.
But he's not a villain. He's a hero this time. If the writers say he's a villain, just remember that their main character is a misandrist racist heterophobic asshole.
Masterful twist? More like mean-spirited point-missing. They took an attempt to appeal to kids and turned him into a grating monstrosity whose early "death" was meant to be cheered by the audience.
@khazz33 that was my first thought too! The live action was very good, I watched it a few million times. Velma tried to frick the good memories.
I have not seen any Scooby Doo show or movie (that I can remember) and have only watched 2 reviews of Scooby Doo media. This show and the movie that came out in 2002. In both of those Scrappy Doo was the surprise villain. Is that just his thing, that he is always the surprise villain? It seems like it would get much less surprising pretty fast because now that he is 2 for 2 I am going to suspect him every time he shows up If I ever see him in anything.
What I don't understand is that she didn't want to put Scooby-Doo into the show but yet it's okay for them to put Scrappy in the show. And what they did to him was absolutely ridiculous
I think it's because Scrappy was already a hated character so they thought whatever they do with him doesn't matter. Ironically though, they made Scrappy a well loved character now because of what they made him do.
Warner Bros didn't want to risk them ruining their Mascot (smart decision) so they gave HBO the rights to Velma on the condition Scooby would not be included, Scrappy was never a very popular character and widely regarded as annoying so they probably didn't care if his character was ruined.
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Technically, WB didn't want Scooby in the show because they didn't want to ruin the character for the kids. I guess they didn't care too much about Scrappy because of his bad reputation with the franchise.
@@Ability-King-KKnegative times negative is a positive I guess.
if they put scooby doo in the Velma series, they'll probably make him unlikely like the rest of the characters in the show.
It’s utterly insane how we got Megamind 2, Megamind Rules, Madame Web, Good Times, and Velma S2 all in 2024 and we’re not even halfway through the year
what happened to your replies lmaoo
@@xxcrayon.eater_ Just a bunch of dumb UTTP spam comments
Year of bad animated works indeed
Megamind 2 isn't bad. It was just all the manchildren were unhappy the kids movie stayed a kid's movie.
The fuck is Good Times?
Aint no way the main character was so horrendous that Scrappy got a whole Zuko level redemption arc just by killing her 💀
That just show how bad this show is. If all it took was to kill her to be redeemed, heck I was sad when they killed him off.
Now I'm picturing Scooby as Iroh speaking before singing "Leaves From the Vine" 😂
"I'm rawry I riddent rotect roo my run...."
Reeves rum the rhine...💔🎶😢
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"We killed Velma!"
"What did it cost?"
"We turned Scrappy Doo into a hero."
Redemption.
"Scrappy was a hero, I just couldn't see it"
The Scrappy doo redemption arc was crazy. I think we owe him an apology.
Who asked+ UTTP content is terrible anyone that they say has bad content that’s not theirs are douchebags
My farts are better than Saberfart's farts.
These bots are wild.
UTTP Redemption Arc when?
Ignore and report the bots
The fact the most hated character from scooby doo kills the most hated character ever is amazing
My one question about these dislike farms is why ask “who asked” to comments that aren’t a question? It just looks sad that they try to plug an irrelevant channel using what looks like SPAM not realising half of the people wouldn’t even be able to even follow the link even if they wanted to, most people would just not do it out of spite
@@Ghostmnm
I'm, just, confused.
My farts are better than Saberfart's farts.
@Ghostmnm It's a bunch of attention deprived kids. Just ignore them
The most hated character of history vs the most hated character of today
Scrappy-Doo is the true hero of this series we never knew we needed, and has truly redeemed himself. I only wish he could've mauled Velma's ghost to death too.
You can say that again.
He went from my least favorite Scooby-Doo character to one one of my most favorites real quick.
His first real good dead.
I love how such a hated character took out an even more hated character, and became the new favorite he was intended to be.
@@thusnameddigital9397At this rate, they're going to have to rename the trope, and I don't know that many characters defined like Scrappy in that literally nobody likes them, especially not to 2000s/2010s Scrappy degrees
My perferct ending for Velma would be Fredd finally getting enough of it all, running away with the mistery Machine, passing through a portal where he meets modern versions of the original Scooby Doo cast and joining their gang, living happy in a place that doesn't treat him like shit
No he needs to get the Infinity gauntlet and fix reality
He should bring Norville too, guy's pretty much his own distinct character anyway.
@@bowenorcutt78 yeah
I am actually friends with someone who works behind the scenes of the show. They are part of the story developing department and they told me that the relationship between the head writers and producers...aren't good to say the least. It's been chaos. And Mindy Kaling is the main culprit.
@UTTPGeneralOrange bots aren't gonna help you bud, and your content sucks
@UTTPWorldPolice no one fucking cares sweet heart 💖
@@Lexi_1234Art They are bots. Don’t mind them
Well… I‘m not surprised that Mindy was the problem.
She has as much acting talent as James Corden.
Aka it isn’t really acting if she plays herself
Update: Typo corrected
I was wondering if there was issues between the two
The fact that the original most hated scooby doo character kills off the new most hated Scooby doo character is golden
Wdym scrappy is my favorite
@@BenTheBakedBean I never hated him personally when I was younger, but now that I’m older I find him annoying. A lot of fans of Scooby do hate him for it
@@aspen4786I think it was mystery incorporated that had a scene with Daphne pointing out a Scrappy statue and Fred told her that they promised they'd forget about him or something.
A passing of the hated torch if you will
@benthebakedbean I hated him as a kid just because of the live action movie
Scrappy killing Velma feels like Gollum destroying the One Ring; both hated, both ended up dispatching an even greater evil.
Bros really into kids cartoons
Edit: Originally named attention seeker but got caught by siblings
Holy sh these 3 now 4replies fell for it despite the whole comment
@@GenuinelyphasingZonedWhat are you talking about?
@@GenuinelyphasingZoned this comment makes no sense
@@GenuinelyphasingZoned bait used to be believable
@@pirilon78i can’t believe 3 people fell for the most obvious rage bait… the name of their account says everything…
The fact that this version of Velma was so hated that people celebrated her murder at the hands of Scrappy mothertrucking Doo is both hilarious and frightening.
hilarious yes, frightening i dont know.
Yeah lmao
Scrappy went on a redemption arc
J Jonah Jameson “Scrappy Doo…was a hero. I just couldn’t see it”
They always go so young...
45 years, he was just a kid
I want someone to edit that scene now with Scrappy on the wall and JJJ being replaced with James Gunn
birb
Scrappy:**Kills this velma for his redemption arc**
Everyone:**Aggressive Favoritism and apologies**
Scrappy doing gods work
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Nobody ask.
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I like how everyone can unanimously agree Scrappy Doo redeemed himself by ending the show once and for all
I never rode the scrappy hate train honestly, PUPPY POWER!!
What content?
I never cared for Scrappy, but my mom hates the character more than I do. This show as a whole is honestly worse than Scrappy ever was
'Thos show doesn't feel like a love letter...'
Yea it feels like those whiplash texts you get from creeps on dating apps who swing wildly between off color comments, 'quicky' humor, and threatening, unhinged rants about how people don't 'get' them
Innocently wishing that the helicopter spinning out of control had led to all the characters' immediate end.
Wow, I sure set off the bots with this one. Kinda proud of that.
@@Donttrustthatburger5144 also you needa chill out
Acting like a child over a cartoon for teenagers omfg touch grass
You're definitely not the only one ;)
@@do-not-subscribe you sure seem triggered enough to reply twice. I prescribe you 2 weeks of daily grass touching
Damn, to think the savior of this bastardization of a beloved classic would be scrappy mfing doo himself. Dude clawed his way up from the underbelly of the franchise after years of obscurity just to smite the false velma. A beautiful tale of tragedy and redemption.
Totally insane idea, but it’s kinda interesting. And he did the best thing anyone could ask for with this stuff: kill off a character people despise
Bro took the Iron Warrior route
The thing about making Thorn old is that the Hex Girls should be around the same age as the mystery gang. Making them old IS just spiteful to fans like the rest of the show.
Yeah. This is really oversimplifying the issue. Like yes call them out for being angry at the wrong people.... But like try to understand why people are angry in the first place?
Like it's basically his job to do just that.
Thorn encapsulates some of the issues this show has and he just ignores it.
I think it comes down to WHY did they age up Thorn? Because for one thing, she's not old, she's in her like what, late thirties, early forties? Like... ya know... a lot of Scooby Doo fans? I feel super gross defending this show for literally anything but I do want to at least say there IS the possibility out there they could have done this to be like "Hey here's a hot version of a Hex Girl for the people who are now in their late thirties and forties who can be like 'Wow this is someone who's hot, a Hex Girl, and in my age range, NICE!" But, I haven't (and will not) see the episode, I've only seen these clips of her in this review and from what I SEE it doesn't look like they made her gross and unattractive or anything, still hot just older. I'm just very much on the side of de-stigmatizing women aging and my kneejerk suspicion is that a lot of the backlash is due to "ew they made look not 18" rather than anything else.
Edit: After talking with MewGirlZ I believe my comment would be better served in saying "I think it comes down to WHY are people reacting to the aging up of Thorn as angrily as they are?" rather than attempting to analyze the creators' intent, since without knowing that it's really not something that's worth attempting to explain or attempt to justify. I do think it is important to acknowledge and analyze the factoring of stigmatization of aging, especially women aging, in the fan reactions regardless of the creators and their intentions.
@@HiddenDarkHM Nah. She is just old. This is not what anyone would describe as "hot" by any conventional standards.
And how obsessed people are with milfs nowadays there were way to make her hot and still look way over 30 or 40. lol
@@HiddenDarkHM I understand where you're coming from, but given how mean-spirited and offensive the show tries to be in every other regard, I don't think there's a modicum of good intent behind it.
I appreciate the perspective and 100% agree that destigmatizing the concept of aging needs to happen. I just have a hard time imagining that that's what they were going for here. They could have done a lot worse to Thorn than making her older, yes, but when has this show included anything else even remotely serviceable to the established Scooby Doo fanbase? I wouldn't trust Mindy Kaling to be in charge of trying to be respectful and nuanced with a classic character if she was the last person in the professional entertainment industry.
@@HiddenDarkHM wrong demographic to do that to, in my opinion. As you say in the end, the only thing many people woud take away from this choice Is "eww she doesn't look like a teen anymore and therefore is unf*ckable"
The fact they had scrappy doo kill Velma feels like someone knew this was going to be awful. Because it says something to have the most disliked meme character kill off your main character.
You cant tell me that was not done at least in part as catharsis
Mindy Kaling was born a rich nepo-baby. Yet in the show, her self-insert is "poor", and it feels like she's larping as disadvantaged when she wasn't. She pretends she's this underdog fighting the rich but she is rich and always has been. She also postures as progressive, but has a VERY problematic past.
Feels like Mindy likes to pretend to have "marketable" traits. Underdog & progressive... She's basically the concept of "shallow platitudes" in human form.
Velmas dads a lawyer lol its like that one meme where the guys like gurl we grew up in the suburbs our parents are dentists
Unless I’m mistaken, I don’t think Mindy is one of the writers of the show.
Fun fact: Hate watching had nothing to do with season two being made, it was apart of the original deal.
I feel as though it had a part in it though. The more revenue, the better. A deal can be broken so easily. This was also funded enough by all the people watching it to the point of it being the number 1 watched show on Max, which is why I think it does, but also, to your point, it did have a deal, so... Take it how you will I suppose.
Hate watch isn't enough to keep a show like this alive.. it's too boring for that, must people will just watch reviews like this video and call it a day. This "second season" was already paid and in production, but even then they just released it in a batch cause no one would watch this shit weekly @@raymanfreak7739
@@raymanfreak7739 It didn't though they announced a season 2 way before season 1 ended
@@tydyman2003 Well, what I'm saying is that it may have had some sort of a part in it. If it had flopped as hard as, let's say Bowser's Inside Story 3DS, then I doubt they'd go through with the deal at that point. It's hard to say for sure though because some companies can be stubborn. Never really know what could happen behind the scenes. So for all we know, it could have become canned at a point in time if it didn't catch on and got infamous.
@@raymanfreak7739
Imagine you get payed in advance and they ask you to do 20 episodes for said salary.
They couldn’t get out of the deal, otherwise they‘d lost money
This is why episodes of Velma were made despite being of terrible quality;
Mindy K.‘s pocket money already went to their conto, and now they have to deliver their services like a contract
Scrappy killing Velma was a true act of heroism
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Velma's version of Thorn makes me uncomfortable to be honest. Part of it just feels, like, it's not just that they aged her up, it's that she feels like a stereotype of a 30-40 year old "hippie". They give her very little character and what character I have gleaned feels... Ehh immature? Ditzy maybe? And it doesn't feel coincidental that they chose to make her like that, the wiccan character, one of the only wiccan characters I have ever seen in children's media. I'm not wiccan so I can't speak for them, but personally, it made me a little uncomfortable that they were taking a beloved character from a marginalized faith and treating her like a fanciful idiot.
congrats Scrappy, time has made you innocent
props to the hero that saved the Scooby-Doo franchise two times
Wtf is this comment thread
My farts are better than Saberfart's farts.
7 copy and paste comments in a row! Wow, the bots are desperate for attention.
Scrappy definitely didn’t deserve the hate. Thank you Mindy for once again redeeming the character who’s literally the trope maker for “The Scrappy”.
@@TornadoSponge Nah, Mindy just unintentionally committed what is known as "Rescued from the Scrappy Heap".
who would have thought that after so many years of being despised, scrappy was finally able to become the main protagonist by killing off 1 of the most hated characters on 1 of the most hated shows of all time. congrats on your redemption arc scrappy
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uttp bots going crazy with this one 😭👎🏽
wait.... scrappy doo shows up and kills velma? Didn't Avacado Animations make a parody of Velma of that happening? Where scooby and scrabby-doo were the same and she was killed over and over again?
Yea. Ignore the UTTP idiots.
My farts are better than Saberfart's farts.
@@p-__Spammer
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he did, though he used Scooby-Doo rather than Scrappy but it's still the same reagrdless.
I think it was like, ever so often in timelines, the Scooby crew would become self aware, and have to be killed by Scooby, where he then restarts everything to try again
You cannot convince me that Velma wasn't a deliberately bad attempt to parody "woke media". They just got it so horribly wrong that it's hated by both sides of the political spectrum.
Mindy isn't that self-aware.
They are definitely banking on hate watchers, and people gotta stop falling for it.
That’s too optimistic for me. No, it’s just hot dogshit lmao.
@@bjornskivids she’s not self aware enough to be empathetic to others. it makes perfect sense she would make a parody of what they view as “woke” content
They’re way to dense for that lmao
To be fair I and likely others would disapprove of the Hex girl cameo regardless of what she looked like. On account of the key fact this all got greenlit but the Hex girl movie was completely cancelled 😅. Kinda like pouring acid in a fresh wound.
YEAH, let’s not forget that there was supposed to be a whole HEX GIRLS MOVIE.
I'm mad about the in universe lore because the Hex Girls aren't supposed to be that much older than the mystery gang. They could have had Thorn play the role they gave to her daughter and it annoys me to no end.
Though you're right, I don't think they could have included the Hex Girls in any way and not get backlash. The spite is still so palpable.
Imagine making a self insert like Velma, then having millions of people saying they hate you as a person secondhand-
I’m not sorry for her, I say we continue-
@@beanieb0b "and then my self-insert character died!" (everybody cheers) "... wait no-"
Like god, Mindy girl, refleeeeeect and improve yourself pleaaase I'm begging you.
@@HiddenDarkHM tbh I question if its even possible for people like that to improve.
@@davidmccall4024 At the risk of waxing philosophical I am an unshakable believer that anyone can change, grow, and improve, even the worst of us, we just have to make the choice and no matter how awful the person, even the most evil of people do at least have the tiniest sliver of potential to choose to make the choice to try to change for the better. It's easier for some, harder for others, but the potential is always there.
@@HiddenDarkHMChange and grow into an even worse person!
"He was a hero, I just couldn't see it." - JJJ when talking about Scappy Doo.
I can't wait for a Velma abridged series, were those visuals are paired with actually good writing.
Scrappy:*holding Velma's head* People! You are free!
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@@Ssi123-n3ywe honor you soldier
I would say "don't hate watch" but that has proven to have the opposite effect via reverse psychology unknowingly, considering it got into the top 5 in US Max. I think the true saying is: "watch something else."
My farts are better than Saberfart's farts.
the first epsode got into top 5, people were actually excited for this show, and then everyone stopped watching.
@@AL-lh2htlike I said, reverse psychology if you tell everyone "stop hate watching"
The damned season 2 existed before the og did
Classic case of "good or bad publicity is still publicity", which is why this show got second season without second thought, hate watch only made it stronger lmao
Might be the strangest take away here, but just looking at the animation for all the body melting, the possessions and other gory clips in this video, the people who drew this and coloured this, if separated from the Mindy or have no attachment to the writing staff, I'd love to see them do a Scooby Apocalypse run.
True
You know a Scooby series is terrible when Scrappy Doo ends up being the lone redeeming factor.
In deed its actually true your comment actually aged well and its really TRUE 💀😭
Scrappy Doo killing Velma is like one of the greatest redemption arcs in the history of television
Go away bots. Noone likes you
Just as long they don't bring Velma back for another season.
@@stephenholloway6893 as long as velma (the show) stays dead its canon that velma was never resurrected.
@@Damian-cilr2Im pretty sure they’re getting a Halloween special or smth 😭
I can’t believe Scrappy is now a hero
I don't even know why people hate Scrappy Doo to be honest. Also I'm so sorry you have these bots clashing together.
shoutout to anyone who worked on this show who has to explain away any gap in their employment in the field on their resume by explaining that's what they were working on
I feel terrible for the animators who are actually, but man are they being wasted on this nonsense. I hope they are able to move to better projects
Thing is, if they animated any of the horror scenes they really ought to be featured prominently on their portfolios and demo reels. Or if they’re the background painters. It’s not like they made the trash scripts, and a lot of the art is great!
It feels like they are trying to do what Smilling Friend did, but without the unique appearance and world design that come with the weird thing that is happening in the show.
Mindy Kaling comes across as a deeply unpleasant narcissist
Yeah
I agree also these bots are everywhere
What a surprise
Strictly speaking 95% of actors seem that way, but a lot of them get away with it.
Like Bill, Murray has apparently been a complete jackass to work with for the last 20 years, but we've let it slide. So I guess if people think you're funny, even if you're not you can get away with it. But people didn't think Mindy kaling was funny, despite the fact that her and Bill Murray's humor is basically the same, but like making fun of the opposite groups.
I mean you can’t call yourself an actor if you just play yourself the entire time
About the hex girl?… “she got older” doesn’t make sense considering this is supposed to be an origin story- as in she’s SUPPOSED TO BE YOUNGER here!
It never worked as an origin story in the most basic sense
@@isauldron4337 the same applies to being a Scooby doo show…
@@battybuddy It suceeds only at joining people in how crap It is
I mean well…Mindy can’t have anybody being hotter than her in her own show
@@zikonrokarminrot636 yet everyone else is STILL hotter…
it speaks volumes when killing off the main character is seen as a happy ending.
@SkibiditoiIetyesyes_UTTPno cares about opinion 5 year old
@@Evilfloppa2it’s a bot
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The fact that this show made us hate every scooby doo character EXCEPT Scrappy Doo is nothing short of a miracle.
It pisses me off that they decided to release both more of this and Teen Titans Go but NOT the Coyote Vs Acme movie that everyone said was the greatest movie of all time
Who summoned the entire fucking UTTP
They canceled so much stuff like Mao Mao and Infinity Train all for more TTG, even though nobody really likes that show outside of fetuses
@@MitsubishiGTO just keep reporting the accounts
they do this because people keep hate-watching. they don't care about the actual quality of the content, if people are hate watching and talking about the thing and pushing it they're getting their traffic and clicks
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"I don't disagree with some of these points- but like, I don't want to hear it from you!" Gold.
Ding dong, the witch is dead! And she's food for the buzzards! Three cheers for Scrappy! Sorry we were so hard on you all those years ago! Who's a good boy? You are! Yes you are!
its jewllywood, land of nepotism, Mindy will be back at it with a new show soon enough.
BAGEL
@@j.2512 Why are you calling it Jewllywood?
Well, that was fun. Who's for Chinese?
you know why.
i need to watch Zombie Island and Witch's Ghost again to cleanse my eyes after seeing this version of Thorn.
"We're the HEX GIRLS!"
The whole Hex Girl thing genuinely confuses me though. The original Scooby Gang had Velma as 15, Shaggy and Fred at 17 and Daphne at 16. Which appears to be about the same ages they are here in this show. So..... The Hex Girl aged up from early to mid 20's to looking like maybe mid 40's.... but literally nobody else did? I mean, that actually doesn't make sense. But then again, nothing in this show makes sense. I still genuinely believe Mindy did this just to make people angry and try to ruin Scooby Doo.
I could care less that she was aged up its the fact that in other scooby media the hex girls are conventionally attractive, now she looks like a disheveled hippie woman who thinks shes hot and still hip with the kids, when in reality she is far from that
I took it as they're trying to get the kids who watched the Witch's Ghost originally and are now in their 30s/40s as a way to relate to the Hex Girls being their age in the show. Like a weird nod
I don't mind her even being older but she looks like she was a drug addict. Why does she look worse than all the other parents in the show
Take what I’m about to say with a grain of salt but I’ve heard other people say that Velma was originally a original show with no ties to Scooby-Doo but because WB was nervous to make a new IP they instead made it into a Scooby-Doo show.
@@PeterGriffin11 That honestly makes sense
This show has a lot of "I am not Starfire" energy. That type of self-insert media that you've seen snippets of and could swear is just a fan-project at most, but eventually realize has full-on studio support as they shove it next to truly great shows and try to convince you that you have no taste and it's actually the best thing since sliced bread.
The James Corden of animation, really...
At least scrappy doo has been redeemed now
Hello again.
Fucking bots man
@@Deeheeheeehe went all in on u dude
Not wrong. One thing Scrappy did right.
@PatrickMahomesUTTP calm down
8:52 You know when you put Velma side by side next to your avatar you can’t help but notice the various visual similarities
It’s actually hilarious that the new most hated character in scooby doo (this Velma self insert) got killed by the old most hated character in scooby doo (Scrappy doo)
Velma made Scrappy look pleasant
Fr, I didn't expect a Scrappy Doo redemption arc in the Scooby Doo Universe.
My farts are better than Saberfart's farts.
@@p-__my farts are better than your farts
Talk about irony.
I don't think this version of Velma should even be called Velma. She needs a different name or something to separate her from the real Velma.
Petition to have Saberspark make a self insert oc in Velma
Saberfart returns???
Bots.
Bots everywhere😢
Good idea though lol
SaberSpark as: The Voice of Reason
Not even reading the comments just looking at how almost all got replied with the "who asked bots"
I’m trying to report them for spam
Let the Cull begin @@yin-sin
@@douglasallar9176 want to join in me in the fight?
What it tho Uttp anyway? I'm scared to search
@@mariethefan If you don't know who they are, you're probably better off that way, because these guys are more than just comment section spammers. There's actually some awful people in their "community".
Scrappy. Oh scrappy, you have done a deed that no one has ever done. 🎉🎉🎉
Advise: don’t hate watch
Plain and simple.
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THIS!!!!!!!! Like they’re gonna make more cuz they’re gonna see that they’re getting viewed and attention so I just wouldn’t even hate watch
I literally thought of this the minute I saw the thumbnail
It’s truly a simple piece of advice that most people will follow…
….Wait a second
exactly. i have no clue why people are still making videos about this.
I'll say it like this the reason people are so mad about the hex girl thing is because the girl looks more older then what she should look like as the ones from the original are believed to be in there twenties to mid twenties. They made this girl look like ozzy osborn at his current age.
There is really no point of this being one of the Hex girls other then to shoehorn in another Scoody doo reference. She could’ve just been any random goth, occult leader, or former band member of whatever and it would’ve had the same impact, she barely appears in general. There was no point of this being Thorn or of the hex girls.
Yea it's weird as the hex girls were the same age as the gang... so shouldn't thorn be velmas age? They could even get more material out of a high school goth instead of a washed up rocker.
@@fireflybutton1939okay gooner
@@fireflybutton1939 I wouldn't say the same age if anything they weren't far apart i'd give five or eight years. Also what is with the uti thing above? kinda reminds me of the maximilianmus shit before on youtube with that toxic dude.
@@RiderEvermore well similar age and no clue... never seen that username in my life
Scrappy doo died for our sins, he has earnt his redemption.
Scrappy kills Velma? Good boy Scrappy. You've redeemed yourself.
SCRAPPY! From being a funny side character as Scoob’s nephew, to being a super villain with urinary problems, he’s finally back doing us all some good.
@SkibiditoiIetyesyes_UTTP WHO ASKED + SABERSPARK IS WAY BETTER
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And when the world needed him the most. He was there
Now that we know....
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"Ding Dong, the witch is dead!"
**Starts dancing**
Bagel! Bagel! *throws bagels*
@@Leilaro1324 Brooklynn Nine Nine reference
Okay killing off Velma at the end of the season definite proof that they know exactly what they were making from the very start because that’s the only way people would watch season two
Btw, the practice buying a long season and breaking it into two EXTREMELY common. Nearly every studio and every show does this now. If you see an announcement of a second season/release date for a show within a few short months of the first finishing airing, then it's likely it was done this way. They do this to avoid having to pay artists more when a season gets renewed, since there's union rules regarding it.
There's a demonic monster and a hero on your thumbnail...I think you all know which is which XD
JOEMAMA
Velma SUCKS
Saberspark: "Velma dies at the end!"
Everyone liked that.
@SkibiditoiIetyesyes_UTTPwho asked for you to talk
Huge W to Scrappy Doo for killing off a horrible human being.
My farts are better than Saberfart's farts.
@OfficerRobGronkowskiUTTPShut up
@UTTPWorldPolice Even a child can draw OCs better than your group's pfp.
Just report and ignore
@@someone6531 you don’t look smart trying to talk to a bot
"Mister president, there was a second season."
If I had a nickel for every time Scrappy was the surprise twist main villain in a Scooby Doo IP...I'd have two nickels...which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Thank you 😂
@@questworldiangreenknight7455 No prob. I live for the lulz. XD
Think you could add a third one, as Scrappy was a villain in the Scooby Apocalypse comic, which I'm convinced is where the Velma writers got their idea for him, since he's ALSO a genetically-engineered monster there.
@@Sea-Salt ...Huh...TIL THAT'S a thing. And ofc it's DC, that explains a lot. O.o
That’s a weird way of saying hero, scrappy is indeed the chosen one for this show
I don't hate Velma because it's "woke", I hate it because Mindy Kaling is losing her goddamn mind and thinks writing for the office makes her capable of carrying big network shows on her shoulders. She should have figured out by the Mindy Project that injecting television with her narcissism wasn't going to make success. People didn't love the Office because of Mindy, they loved it because of Steve and his job acting as Michael. Kelly was the same kind of person as Mindy, so it wasn't very skillful to do that acting. Her relationship with Ryan as Kelly is pretty much the exact same as her relationship with Danny in TMP.
Narcissism is not talent, sadly.
The thing is... you can do all sorts of "woke" projects, as long as you do it with actual love for the art and the audience.
"Velma" might be a work of narcissism, but it's not even a work of self-love. It's detached, self-loathing and only there to feed into the outrage-machine. Even if the actors match the ethnicity of their characters - who wants to be represented by SUCH characters?
Woke is a 100% legit reason to hate it though. Its just that in velma s case,being woke pales in comparison to other problems. Like comparing acne to skin câncer.
Mindy really just played herself in the office, and was the annoying gossiper of the show. Who would’ve thought she had no freaking talent xD
yeah , me too, but also because its woke
@@fermintenava5911 thats just cope, woke needs to go out the door already
So reminder the reason why scooby doo is not in velma Is because scooby doo is what makes a kids show a kids show
But Scrappy doo as a evil super soldier monster thing going on a rampage is allowed on velma ?
Of course because only an Annoying character can kill an annoying self insert character
Look let’s just be glad Scooby Doo was left out. We wouldn’t want him to be figuratively butchered like the rest of the cast. Also dang it this comment section is infested with bots.
I mean, that’s what basically happened in the Scooby Apocalypse series by DC Comics. Way more interesting than Velma btw.
Although in one of the episodes from the first half there is a Scooby Doo skeleton buried underground.
I don't like shows that think they're smarter than I am. I'm glad you mentioned that. I had the same feeling as well.
I can‘t deal with the fact that Velma, one of the most hated shows ever by literally everybody get’s a second season, but Our Flag Means Death doesn‘t get a third one. I will always be salty about that
It was lgbt bullshit,I'm glad its gone
I think it's just a Halloween special
Both seasons were made at the same time.
@@AllMight6 yeah, found that out later on, but the point still stands
The fact that this got approved and warner never dreamed of approving Batman beyond
2:10 The most hated character in the history of hated characters Actually redeemed themselves???? I can't actually I'm saying it but Good job Scrappy!!!!
Hey, i guess even the most hated characters of fiction can redeem themselves, if they just try!
Well, except the the rest of _the..._ Whole_ cast..._ And uh... *Y'know what? Nevermind."*
That feeling when you are literally such a loathsome character that you by-proxy accidentally redeem one of the most hated characters in children's animation history.
I laughed so hard when I heard she was killed by scrappy 💀💀💀
Its funny how in all the episodes they try to make fun of Fred and in the end, he is the only good character
Him and the brave hero Scrappy. 🫡
Sweet irony.
"The rich are evil"...meanwhile, Mindy kaling taking ozempic for her weight loss cause she has the money to take it from diabetics 😅
From the little I've seen of this show, the only part i genuinely enjoyed was the oddly wholesome interaction with Fred and Velma's mom
Mindy literally took beloved Velma and made her into a Redditor
Basically she plays ‚Velma‘ like herself
Or Twitter artist
And Velma’s relationship with Daphne is so toxic and terrible. There chemistry just sucks.
The fact Iscream and Fwench Fwy have a healthier relationship and they are a demon and wish dragon from heaven, literally opposites and they make it work.
@@bearerofbadnews1375 The writers did that just to desperately grab on the attention of lesbians. Nothing else
Please. Even Reddit is not that bad
Mindy Kaling made Evil Scrappy to shout, "DON'T LOVE THE DOG!!! SEE!!! IT'S BAD!!! LOVE ME INSTEAD!!!" and everyone is cheering that Minda/Velma dies.
Well, at least we don't really care anymore so the hate watching will stop or slow down tremendously so the show won't have a season 3 (hopefully).
@SkibiditoiIetyesyes_UTTP The fuck are you?
Scrappy's redemtion arc required him to kill something even worse than himself
Thank you for saying all the nice comments about the artist. I was a character designer on this project and the art team was great to work with. Honestly a well oiled machine compared to the other projects ive work on.
tbh I generally really like the character designs in the show, I could have seen them being used in a much better written show and nobody batting an eye. Solid work
Did you get comments direct from Mindy?
@@HebiHouse I never directly interacted with her but she was nice about work just particular . That’s any show tho
@@cyanthrope thank you! Again the art team was great and my art lead did a great job with the style
This show does not deserve such good art in it. The character designs are phenomenal!
Saberspark the problem with the race swapping is that they use it as a shield by saying if you don't like it it's racism, not that they have shitty written.
Not only that but it is a lazy way to go about representation. Making new characters with appealing personalities and their own goals requires actual effort while on the flip side picking any random white character and simply changing their skin tone requires no effort at all.
@@PeterGriffin11I mean that's absolutely not true if anything Since people take "white" as the default the thousands of variations that drastically add nothing are the norm
Versus a race swap where there very existence is put into question and is usually done to add a diffrent context to the character
For a long time Miles was shat on as just black Peter despite contributing to the new motif of Spiderman being a symbol and not just a single individual
For Example not the first colored Velma nor the first Bisexual Velma but just as a premise people threw a lot of racist remarks before the show
Same as Norville the issue with him is just he's boring but in the hands of better writers there was a good premise
It's actually harder to do race swap especially with the reactionary crowd and people victimize themselve while being racist or sexist
My primary issue wasnt even the race thing. It was all the characters felt flat or so self centered. Then we get into it and all the political social commentary, the most things that important to the mystery goes bit by bit until some big reveal they tended to stumble upon. And that is why it felt unneeded to race swap. Heck call it anything but velma and it may have taken off with others. Then add the treatment for the ghost attacks. Oh no make me laugh or I have to eat to stop this. A potato chip or a half ass laugh isnt going to stop a panic attack on the level it nearly killed one of them from the shock. Then add they tried to make fred unlikable but he was the most relatable if you can say that. Heck even his dad had more character change in one episode then most of them did. Well save norville after this brain thing.
But the show felt like nothing is really given time to develop and the things that should be to feel good was ham hawked and rushed.
The only thing I grew to not mind was the animation the ghosts felt like a real thing but wasted on insulting mental health. Then as to the hex girl cameo. The only thing I saw most disliking was she almost looks like she took meth. Or something idk but seeing velma scoff at the idea of the occult felt weird to just to get to eat crow when she died. I didnt mind the lead hex girl cameo save the interactions felt odd. But hopefully if they make anymore they get someones help to fix the writing. Because it hurt my head most the time listening to the interactions.
@@demonking-zm3rs I disagree. Most people don't complain about race swapping because their racist but because it's lazy representation and hypocritical as well. Usually people who say race doesn't matter are the same people who would complain if any black character had their race changed to anything else.
Race swapping of any kind is always going to be controversial and divisive. I think A better solution would be to stop race swapping characters and just makes new ones.
Also in the case of Miles Morales. I know some people didn't like him in the comics because of how they killed off peter to introduce him and when Peter did inevitably come back people weren't fond of how he was characterized and felt that his personality was off and some people felt that the writers were making Peter unlikable to make Miles look better. People aren't always going to immediately like new characters but overtime once Miles came into his own people warmed up to him.
I'm convinced that Scrabby broke into this version of Velma's reality to unironically end this evil version to save us all from any more embarrassment.
My farts are better than Saberfart's farts.
@@p-__ Can I have a taste? 😫😩
It's back. I thought we were free for one hopeful moment. Like now. In October 2024. This is insulting to Halloween
I am 100% not surprised that "season 2" is originally season one, but cut in half. Streaming services are always trying to pull this fast one.
I propose we call it ''Velmer'' to separate it from the real Velma.
I think Mindy is better
Afterall, Mindy plays herself because no one can see Velma in this ‚Velma‘.
And I think it should serve as a signal to how we think of her now…
Dude, come on! Dropping the hard r like that? Seriously?
@@EngineerMonkeyBTD6 What is the ‚Hard R‘ supposed to mean?
Does it stand for ‚r@cist‘? Or for something completely different?
And all what OP said was ‚Velmer‘… I don’t see anything wrong with it by looking at it
Velmindy, since it's just Mindy Kaling wearing a shitty Velma cosplay and spitting atrocious slime.
I call it, "Mindy's Mysteries." Because the show is so far removed from anything recognizably Scooby-Doo, that it's pretty much just Scooby Doo in name only. Had it not have the Scooby-Doo branding slapped to it, I bet people wouldn't hate it as much. Oh, they'll still hate it, but not as bad.
Can’t even use the Hex Girls thing as a reference cause they’re supposed to be around Mystery Inc.’s age.
No, what they did to Thorn was on purpose Saber.
its a Gen x writter , they think being all Meta and forcing references passes for wit
Yeah, can't agree with Saber Spark on this one. I _could_ see them aging up the Hex Girls, but unless the entire point is "Thorn has had a rough career as a Hex Girl, which is why she's done with it now that she's 40-to-50 years old." *and* this was a plot point... fans would still be annoyed, but Saber's reasoning would hold. *Doesn't sound like that's how Thorn's being used.* I also don't know if her character is _supposed_ to be that old and having lived the self-destructive rock/punk/whatever kind of life.
Given the series, I'm inclined to think
1) Someone had a friend _they think_ looked like Thorn and so drew that friend as Thorn and... well... ouch.
2) One of those people who used to "fix" art by making characters "more relatable" e.g. unattractive was in charge of Thorn's design.
However, I reserve the right to be wrong, cause I am *not* watching this show. I mean, I don't even have Netflix anymore. XD
Dang the Scrappy redemption arc is crazy
This show succeeded in one thing. Making me actually like Scrappy Doo for once.
I cant believe they gave Velma a season 2 instead of uncancelling COYOTE VS ACME 💀😭
Shut all you bots!
Not a season 2, Part II of season 1. He said this is how they underpaid the animators.
And just like that, Scrappy Doo went from my last favorite Scooby doo character to my absolute favorite
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