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Love the filtration system and the upgrades.
The last two options are perfect for our condo while being storable. Thank you for introducing me to the world of indoor dryer vents!
Bro your channel is so useful. Thank you for all the time and energy you give to the community!
Those are great! My favorite was the little square one easy to move back out of the way! YES!!!! That's awesome news!!! I'm on the waiting list for the airbrush!!❤❤❤
Robert thank you again for the different options for venting inside.
That’s brilliant. Clever ideas that are clearly explained and all potential questions answered. Very professional. Great work, great video.
I greatly appreciate all that you do and help us out with. These are great tools.
Great video, Robert! That last square box one will be perfect for my booth setup. As always, thanks for what you do!
Always enjoy watching your videos they are so informative and helpful to watch
You have read my mind about these indoor "venting" systems. Thanks!
I'm always amazed at what you come up with.
Thank you very much for all the hard work you do for us hobbyists!!!!!
Love your channel. You saved me drilling a great big hole on my garage wall. What a great idea. Love the tests and reviews, keep them coming.
Thanks for the demo! 👍
Great video! It’s giving me some great ideas for using an interior filter! I’ve got some ideas spinning around in my head. Thanks! 🤔
I have a window but this time of year in Washington state those could help keep it warm an thanks for your time an effort on your videos Robert 👍🏻👍🏻
I really appreciate running into your channel, the wealth of information, and the product reviews have guided many of my purchases. Continue the great work and thank you.
Thank you Angel
This is a very quick and thorough guide. Thank you!
Thanks, this is better than a bucket for me. Appreciate the research
These are great idea's that I never thought of. I'm new to airbrushing so your videos are really helpgul.
Totally awesome video, love these hacks.
Great tips. Thanks 👍
Thank you Rob for another informative video.
Wow!!! Thank you for sharing! I have a Pace Mini...i think that round one would be perfect for both paints! Way better than keeping the window cracked in the winter time... I do not paint as much as you lol
Great ideas - thanks for posting
Thanks for sharing this info with us... I appreciate you taking the time and expenses to show the choice's a person could have with ventilation.. Think I'm going to go with the first one.👍
This an absolutely fantastic idea! Thank you so much for sharing. You have just solved my problem!
You are the man Robert, a damn genius. I’m on the gaahleri list for the baddest airbrush ever. Can’t wait to get it. Thanks man
Absolutely brilliant. I can listen to Bob the Rex all day long, and I learn something new every time. What more can I say - Long Live the Barbados Rex Site. We have some good people on this side of the pond, but Bob the Rex is in a league of his own. USA, your lucky to have him. Robert, we all hope your better half is still well on the road to full recovery.💂
Awesome thanks for sharing
Very cool products and pretty good prices. As always Thank you very much for sharing and looking forward to the next video. Everyone keep yourselves and love ones safe and healthy and remember to SMILE 😊God Bless 🙏
Great ideas
Thanks for sharing sir!
Years ago when I first moved to Japan I had to use the bucket it did a great job until I got. A spray booth in Japan Apartments you don't have very much room and you have to be very creative .I made Many different variations of it..but nothing will replace a good vent to the outside. Good video Robert Keep them coming brother
Precisely because of that many Hobby shops in Japan has a "hobby room" with multiple spray booths with compressors and airbrushes set up that you can rent for hours. Some even have key lockers where you can left your model while it dries instead of hauling it back and forth. I saw a Japanese model youtuber visiting few of those, check your area.
Thanks for the ride!! I'll try it !!
I'd like to say thank you for getting me back into model building again. Your videos are the best. After watching a few of your videos I decided to pull out a model that I started 30 to 35 years ago. AMT pro shop 57 chevy bel air. Hope I don't bore you but here's a little history about me. When I was around 10 yrs old I began building models { 50's... 60's and some 70's cars and trucks }. Then a got a mini bike and models went away. In my early 20's I started again for a few years but then women got in the way and I stopped. In my early 30's I picked it up again and went crazy. I had about 150 unbuilt models and lots of nice accessories and hand tools. That lasted for around 5 yrs but life got in the way and I stopped. When I moved to florida from R.I. I took them with me { gave away half of them}. They sat in my garage until one day last year I decided to bring in the 57 and start working on it again but it just sat in my room for one year. Two weeks ago I happened to see one of your videos on youtube and got the fever again { Thanks to you }. I went to lobby hobby { only hobby shop in my area } an family dollar and dollar general and set up my work area { which look great' Thanks to you }.
So I just wanted to drop a line and say Thank you. Your vids are the best and I'm looking forward to many more. By the way I'm a 66 year old man felling like a kid again.
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Well I'll tell you I'd love to move out there just so I could ride the motorcycle throughout the year
Pretty cool! Thanks for
Thank you so much for this video! I just installed my own system and I like it sooo much better than the old system I was using. Looks so much neater and more efficient.
That's awesome, glad to hear I helped out
Great information video. Thanks
really cool. i gotta try something like this
Thanks very much!
Great ideas!
I made dryer box few months ago, since i got other dryer and left with the box and hose. Works nice
Amazing timing I was just thinking about this
Nice! Very helpful info. Thanks!
Hi Robert, thank you again for a great presentation on air booth's exhaust systems. Those examples you presented were great, but I still like the bucket system. All I can say is that you are a fountain of knowledge my friend. Kudos to you and I hope your wife is feeling better.
Great tips. I have vents but they are taken up with 3d printer venting. This is so convenient as my desk is a bit far from the vent. I am definitely going to use a tumble drier vent under the desk for airbrushing.
Hey man thanks. Never entered my mind to do this. I never even knew there was such a thing.
Thanks for the great info and video.
Just an FYI for anyone ordering from Gaalheri. The people there are right on the ball at getting the item shipped but don't cheap out like I did and select DHL for shipping. It took almost 2 weeks from the time DHL got the Mobius 0.2 I ordered until it arrived at my door. USPS, UPS and Fedex does the same distance in 4 or 5 days.
Nice! Some of these cost more than the bucket, but they all solve the airflow issue. Thanks for the ideas.
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This is great. I dont have much spsce or an opening window in my new apartment. However we do have an office space with private rooms, so this would be great to try there when i can get around to airbrushing again.
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omg its rex's face :o never thought I would see him, thank you for all the work and reviews you do sir!
My Pace will be here Monday, and with this cold weather. This video comes in very handy!
How long ago did you order it?
@@iknplsu Jan 1st
@@caliog3016 I ordered mine on January 5
Brilliant many thanks for sharing these various methods I love it as I don't have a window to vent out I'm gonna set myself up with one of these 😂
Thanks for your hard work making this video dude. I didn’t even know these were a thing. 👍👍👍👍👍
So happy to find your channel! This videowas very helpful! I don't have a window in my wok area so these are great solutions😁
Thank you my friend
Currently setting up a spray booth for painting my slot car bodies. I love this idea with the dryer filter. Thanks for this video. Subed your channel. 🏁🍻
Great alternatives I might go for something like this thanks for sharing regards Fred ps nice to see a face to the voice 👍🏻
This was fun to watch and it was very informative.
The Overkill shirt was a nice bonus 🤘
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Dang! I wish I've seen this video when it was released. Those are handy! It'll be on my wish list. Gotta save up money for it.
Thank you so much for this awesome video. I live in an apartment with no window in the room i build my models. This will work great, and I also need one for my dryer. maintenance has tried to clean my vents a few time and the vent i use is terrible. I will be buying 2 of the first one. Thanks again.
Remember that's good only for water based paints, don't make yourself gas chamber.
Robert, thank you so much for this alternative to outside venting. I really appreciate your videos. I don’t believe anyone else on you tube is addressing these important modeling issues and techniques. Please keep up your good work.
This won't work, if you want a system that's actually safe for spraying inside take a look at my most recent video
@@HobbyBench A safe system for spraying inside vents to the outside.
@kilodelta1495 agreed, that would be the safest with proper ventilation at your unit which most units don't have in the first place. I've actually done VOC testing to verify different setups with a $1000+ testing rig, and the kaizo x plus a 20 pound canlite is the only way that I have found that can reduce working VOCs down to levels that would be considered safe by your typical regs. Doing any of the stuff in the video is completely ineffective, including the water bucket nonsense which I've also VOC tested and it failed even with the kaizo x.
@@HobbyBench You said on another comment that you tested it with the kaizo and said that was the only way it worked for you. Now you say it doesn't work at all?
Come on, man, if you're gonna be completely full of it, at least try to keep your story straight.
@mattpace1026 I don't think you know how to read. I was pretty clear that using a good intake system like the kaizo x as well as venting it into a canlite with 15-20 pounds of virgin carbon does work. Nothing is as good as venting outside, because your removing the air, but even that only works with a great negative pressure system on the intake and there is only one unit I know of in the consumer market that does that, the kazio x (not the mobile fort)
Great ideas! Really need to start doing one of these options.
Great video!!
I’ve learned so much from your channel,thank you
You're welcome buddy 👍
thanx a lot !!!!!!!! it's very good idea !!
I have window in my lab, but sometimes I can't open it (too cold or too hot, in summer)
THANK YOU !!!!
Great alternatives for folks without an easily accessible window! One thing to remember if you use solvent-based paints is to replace your carbon frequently! Activated carbon gets “used up” (all adsorption sites in the molecular structure filled up) pretty fast, and then it’s useless. You might not smell or notice any difference, but the VOCs will not be filtered anymore and it’s not great to be breathing those in an enclosed space. Even if it smells fine. Put in fresh carbon every so often (how often depends on how much you airbrush), and this will work great.
Also it starts degrading as soon as you open it. It constantly absorbs stuff from the air. Doesn't have to be from your paints.
This is often overlooked. For a respirator to maintain its rating, it has to be in a sealed container when not in use. They degrade rapidly in open atmosphere due to absorbing everything from the air. You need to keep your mask (or just its filters) in a sealed Tupperware or plastic bag, etc.. Throwing the mask in a gallon Ziplock bag after use extends its useful life enormously.
Great alternative? It's like saying you can also put a plastic bag over your head if you don't have a window. This thing does exactly nothing. Every spray booth already catches overspray in a cloth - but all the solvent vapors gets past it like nothing. Adding some random water vapor trap at the end doesn't do anything.
@habiks all these are completely ineffective and a waste of money. The only way I've found to effectively filter VOCs is using a canlite 20 pound exhaust filter, after using the kaizo water curtain. I've voc tested this and it does work, but will need to be changed or redried every 1-2 years depending on your usage.
I've VOC tested doing into a water bucket and it does nothing but move vocs
@@ninjatangothat is where people are making a huge mistake that is the reason I hate that everyone thinks wear a filter is the greatest thing in the world. Especially for resin 3d printing in the house, yes the use a filter when they open the lid up but generally it will spread the voc all over the inside the house, go through the walls to up stairs. Than they don’t change the carbon mask or the air filters they have on the portable units. 7 to 10 day normally is what they are good for place them in the plastic bag will extend them how long it depends on use I would replace them at the 14 day mark or if you use them every day max 10 days.
Awesome!
Nice shirt, great Overkill, great video!
Love the shirt 🤘🏼
Thanks!
You're welcome my friend
Cool as always.
What good taste in the choice of T-shirt, and the video helped too, thank you. Greetings from Germany.
This is really great! That filter box is just what I need as my new spray table area is in a closet. I have been out of the hobby since 2011, as I relocated overseas to work and didnt have access to model stuff for over a decade. I have since came back to the states and moved into a new home and am anxiously building up my new model room. Its been a long time coming! Thanks for this video
You're welcome my friend and welcome back to the hobby 👍
@@barbatosrex9473 Thank you. One more thing... I want to build a basic spray box for my setup. I haven't got around to what you have in your videos yet, what do you recommend? In the past for many of my builds, I just used a cardboard box with a big cutout, my old badger brush, and acrylic paints, all in a small bedroom. Worked well but I need to upgrade a bit now, especially since I do go back and fourth between acrylics and enamels when required.
Lastly, I'm interested in your swallowtail airbrush... Where can I get one? Thanks
Here's the link to my airbrush
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@@barbatosrex9473 Thanks a bunch! Cheers
simply genius
Amazing!
Thank you my friend
After watching one of your previous videos, I built the bucket system using my 3d printer to print the upper inlet to the bucket that attaches to the paint booth hose and the lower inlet tube that goes down about 200mm or so into the bucket. Then I put 8 holes (30mm dia) in the lid around the inlet. I printed a grate that stands up on posts about 250mm above the bottom of the bucket. It has a hole that the inlet tube goes through. I put the blue filter material on the grate and the black carbon material on top of that. When I close the lid the filter material is right under the lid. I put about 2 or 3 inches of water in the bottom and Bob's your uncle. It keeps me spraying in the winter. Thanks for all of the great tips and information.
Dude !!! Love the shirt I love the band to
Overkill baby 🤟
I love you man but so worried about VOCs removing the smell isn’t necessarily a sign of removing them. 3d printer guys can attest to that with the carbon filters used there. Almost like taking the stink out of propane. Would want a VOC test.
yep this hill robert has decided to climb up on may literally be his dying one
The carbon filter he listed is designed for VOCs. You will need to replace them at least once a month, depending on usage.
being designed for vocs and being rated for full adsorption of a given fluid's voc contaminants at a specific flow rate are not even in the same universe. there is a very good reason 3m does not use this pad in the respirators sold for vocs. there is a very good reason all commercial voc scrubbers use a properly settled and packed bed of activated charcoal pellets or a manufactured carbon matrix block. dwell time and contact time are not matched for adsorbing vocs from an airstream in such a loosely woven matrix with such little carbon by weight @@jeffjackson4465
there is a huge difference between "designed for vocs" and rated for removal of specific concentration of vocs at a specific flow rate and i assure you these are not rated for the concentration of a paint booth with lacquers sprayed in it. voc removal from air at the speeds a paint booth exhausts its effluent requires something with more actual carbon and much greater contact time with pelletized carbon. it is impossible for the vocs to be adsorbed efficiently enough to produce clean air in the set ups robert shows. for this pad to be effective you would need a serpentine maze chamber with pads in each level and only after passing through several chambers would the effluent be clean of vocs. given that restricting the airflow is not good you would need to account for pressure drops due to each bend in the serpentine array. the cross section of the chaber in each layer would need to be larger than output of the booth to allow for this. we are talking about a custom made fridge sized box with hundreds of dollars of carbon pad to get proper contact time as this pad is so porous and most of the air is unfiltered when exiting each layer
id love to see you post any credible source for the claim that replacing the wrong tool for the job once a month makes it the right tool for the job@@jeffjackson4465
@@NeoPest really appreciate you spending the time to spell it out. We only get one chance at life and I love my lacquer paints but only with a direct vent booth and respirator!
As always a complete video of showing almost all the options available for an indoor filtration system. Thanks!
Came for the info...love of channel goes up because of t-shirt!!!!!!
Thank You Robert, You really knocked it out of the park. If you can smell it, it means the molecules are still floating around in the room. No more dead canaries and budgies! 👌👍
they are still floating around even if you cant smell it. usually you can rust your nose IF you smell something but rarely should you trust your nose if you DO NOT smell something. this is why extremely expensive electronic sniffers are required to be used to make sure a confined workspace is safe for humans to occupy. this is why canaries were used. their biology makes them extremely sensitive to changes in atmospheric gas ratios and physically react (die) at concentrations far lower than would kill a man in seconds. but these workers that didn't die in seconds still suffered permanent tissue damage often leading to painful early deaths and/or reduced physical capabilities when exposed to chronic sub-fatal levels
Love the shirt, my friend. Love OVERKILL, hello from the gutter.😊
Great idea, sure I saw another guy doing this on Instagram a couple weeks back
Nice shirt, man! I knew there was something extra cool about you!
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Thank you, always looking for ways to save.
Looking forward to the vice video. Thank you Mr. Rex
this wont save your life or your wallet. a 4" x 16" inline charcoal filter on amazon is 30 bucks and actually will clean the air output from most booths on the market. a 6x24 is better for large booths.
Thanks
You're welcome buddy 👍
Great video, I'm getting back into airbrushing and I'm setting up a spray booth and filter system, great info! I have one question, and I have looked thru your videos, have you ever done a review on respirators? I'm looking for one that will work with all types of paints, lacquers, enamels, and acrylics. What do you recommend ?
I would probably still use a bucket but in a chain setup where it comes out from the spray booth into a sealed bucket that blows directly on the water like usual but then the air vents out a second duct and into whichever device I decided to use.
Looking forward to the vice video👍🏻 I’m in desperate need for a hobby vice that isn’t made from Chineseum metal
Another great how to video .when do you have time to build ?
Just got my dryer vent delivered of off Amazon and got it installed, what a killer idea my friend. And double activated charcoal filters! Thanks!
You're welcome buddy, that's great news
I could tell just by the way you speak that you were from New England. Thank you for the information and links. Subbed!
Welcome aboard Neal
Hi everybody. I hope all of you are doing well.
Robert, Im betting there is a way to use that first one as a "portable". I've wondered about airbrushing scenery that is already in place. All you would have to do is find a system to hold the hose over or near what you are spraying and have the filter on your back. I might see what I can come up with
Thats how Is industrial down draft tables work. Just like a bong. Where you trap everything in the water. They use them all the time in aircraft or deburring flammable Materials because they wont build up in a filter and Catch fire
Very cool idea. Better than leaving window cracked in winter time👍
I use a dryer hose vented to my bathroom with the bathroom fan on in a pinch. Door closed as much as possible of course.
I need something like this, but HEPA and Airtight, for venting a 3D printer enclosure.