Bucket Vent trick for the hobby space!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- After watching the video posted by Barbados Rex about using a water filled bucket to reduce fumes in his hobby space, we felt it was worth a try!
Coming in at just under $20.00 for materials, we found this trick to be a cheap and easy way to make our hobby room a lot more comfortable to paint in!
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Check out Barbados Rex's video here:
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Very cool Bryan. Must work great, I couldn't smell a thing. LOL. Ron
🤣🤣🤣proof it works indeed!! Thanks for the laugh Ron! 😁
Great tips for airbrush use with no window vent option. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Mike, very welcome! I had been searching for an easy way to keep the hobby room fume free so I can paint indoors during the summer.
Cool Beans!!!
And Thank You for sharing your Work Space ( Man Cave.....most of us could/Might be embarassed to show that ). BUT having somebody Else, show what the GREAT 'Barbatos Rex' has done for OUR Hobby is Greatly appreciated.
AND showing that the stuff he shows DOES Work! (whether it is paints, tools or "how to..", in this case "how to...build a filter for those Not having a window from our workbench, for whatever reason.
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Hi, it was my absolute pleasure to try out this project and share my findings! It really has been working well for me so far! Yeah, my space here is a little bit messy right now. Probably wasn't in the best shape for the video! LoL 😁 thank you for the very kind comment!
That's great Bryan, thanks for taking the time to show us how it's done exactly 👍🏼 wife always complains about the extra long hose I have from my booth to the outside vent, so I might actually give this a shot ☺️😀
Hi Karl! You are very welcome! I really hope it can help out!
If you want 100% removal of particulates.... Then use a rainbow vaccum that uses water as the filter... No vac than make your own take the hose from the spray booth cut hole with a hole saw in lid of bucket use a flange fitting and a plastic pipe and immerse in water in the bucket about 6 to 8 inches...then with a hole saw cut the hole for a vaccum hose flanged fitting put a charcoal filter in the vaccum.... Now when the booth fan is on and the vaccum is on the booth air will be filtered through the water catching all paint particulates and Vocs and the charcoal filter will get any remaining odors out on the vaccum exit... Very simple physhics here the hose immersed in the water forces the booth air to be filtered aka bubbles through the water the vaccum creates a low perssure area and does not intake water as long as you keep it at a low enough level...this will even work with out a booth fan. All you have to remember is to change out the water and the charcoal filter lasts a long time... This is the same princples used on the might Vac brake bleeder. And I've used it when no window was availble...also works in large scale to paint a 1 to 1 car and keep the niegbors from complaining about the paint smell.
Wow! Thank you for the detailed info! Definitely something to try out. Perhaps if this set gets overwhelmed, this will be the next version. Thank you!
Looks like a really good setup, thanks for showing us, brother ✌️😁
Hi Steve! Thanks my friend!
Great setup Bryan now that's out of the box thinking hope it works to you advantage 👍👍
Hi Seamus! Thank you!! 😁 Fingers crossed!!
Very cool set up and idea glad you tested it out :)
Hi Kenny, thanks!! 😁
Doin the thing that oil does….my favorite quote of the video….cool idea.
LOL, thanks Terry!! Glad you liked that!
thanks for the idea!
Very welcome Sean!!
On Amazon I got a lighting strip that goes around mirrors and put it inside the spray booth lit it up great
Oh that is a good idea!! Thanks!!
I have that exact same booth. I used Robert's method of using an indoor dryer vent. It works okay so I may move up to the five gallon bucket soon. I would use a window, but my house is bazzillion years old and has the old, crank open windows.
Hi John! Oh cool! Glad to hear you have something figured out. Let me know if you try the. Bucket idea! I recall that style window. No way you are escaping in an emergency with those windows! 😯
@BGsModelWorkshop Yeah, the house is on fire, lemme take 20 minutes to crank open the window! Lol
@@JDsHouseofHobbies 😁 exactly
Thanks for sharing this! Looks like a great solution for those without access to a window!!s
Very welcome Johnny! It was fun to build and test! Hope it helps some folks out!
I set up the dryer vent and covered the vent holes with carbon filter material, haven’t tried it yet
Hi Chester! Sounds like your set up will do the trick! Fingers crossed it works out!
Yeah I hope so, the room I work in has all crank out windows, I tried taping the vent to the screen but it still had blowback. After watching Barbados Rex I opted for the dryer vent. Should find out how it works this week. Love your builds and your podcast. I am currently thinking about starting my own RUclips channel showing my journey, I’m 57 and disabled so have a lot of time on my hands, haven’t built a model since my early teens, built a funny car this past year and now have the bug.
@@chesterlewis6230 Very glad to hear you are back in the hobby again! Those crank out windows are a pain to deal with just trying to open them! My grandparents house had those. I felt they were a problem. Thank you very much for the kindness, definitely try making a channel, see how it feels, it can be hard at times but can also be rewarding.
Great idea if you cant vent thru a window. I was lucky and was able to hole saw thru to under my house and vent that way, I added a dryer vent flapper so the critters stay out.
Maybe try using Velcro to hold your filter on the top of the bucket to simplify changing the out.
Hi Dave! I wish we could hole saw through the wall and install a dryer vent. Our house is block construction the block is hard as granite. II would need a professional crew to come in and drill. 🤦 Great idea for the Velcro! I'll try that!
Nice video, Brian. Thanks for the demo and for the orange oil tip. 🙃
Very welcome bud!! Hope it can help answer some questions.
This is a great tip. Thanks for posting it BG.
Very welcome! Hope it helps answer any questions.
I did the same thing but put a hydroponics filter inside the bucket,put activated carbon pellets in there as well sealed it off the made holes, i made a big hole in the middle for the hydroponics filter inlet to come out so I can clamp it to the hose and she rips I also changed the booth filter to an activated carbon filter, I still get a little smell when I use some strong paints but I think I'm going to try and use your method and put some drops of oil on the activated carbon and I think that'll fix it up
Hi Vinny! those are some great refit ideas!! I may try them myself! thank you!
@BGsModelWorkshop also know as a carbon filter, has many versions,got it off amazon. It looks like a muffler in a way there's one just the size of the bucket I put a couple inch block at the bottom for the closed end to sit on and ofcourse ran the intake side up threw the lid, it's filled with activated carbon, then get you some carbon pellets sprinkle them around, drops of your essential oil lol (great idea) drill your holes and your good, some of the filters can get crazy in price I tried 3 different ones there all the same that I tried so I kept the cheapest one which I even got cheaper buying it in the used section had it for about a year now, and don't forget even if you don't do that when it's time to change the filter in the booth throw an activated carbon on in,just buy a sheet/roll and cut to size
I have the same paint booth, love it for a cheaper booth it's great. Go to a hardware store and get you a cut to size filter, it works so much better with it. Have a good week buddy
Hi Jeff! Great idea! Thank you!!
thank you, Brian. That was really cool! Short money for a nice set up. I'm also subbed to Barbados Rex. He has a great channel. So do you Brian. Thanks again.✌
Howdy!! Thank you so much!! And thanks for watching.
Your welcome Brian. and thank you for putting out the polishing video a while back. It really helped me 👍✌@@BGsModelWorkshop
So glad to hear that!!! 😁 Just made my day my friend!!
glad this worked out for you. was wondering about the 2K products also.
I do want to try it. I have a project coming up soon that I try it on. Boy would that be a game changer if it did work!!
@@BGsModelWorkshop oh yeah definitely a game changer if it turns out to work.
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I watched his video too..... and I was thinking about to give it a try....seems to be a great alternative to open the window with the hose hanging outside....👍
Hi Gary!! Sweet! Please do give it a try! A couple of comments have suggested skipping the water and using activated charcoal and putting the vent hose down into the charcoal. I may try that next.
Well my concern with the water was the cleaning ...you know if water stays in there for to long it will get smelly, but yes the activated charcoal would solve that problem....👍👍👍@@BGsModelWorkshop
@@CarDreamsinStyrene exactly!! And here in the desert, it could very easily evaporate away.
great tips my friend. Thank you for sharing!
Hi Todd! Thank you!! ☺️
I remember reading how to do this in SAE Magazine. They mentioned using activated charcoal to absorb the smell.
Hi Alan, a couple of comments have suggested doing just that. If I feel I need to upgrade, that's the way I will go! Especially if having a large bucket of water in the hobby is an issue.
Rex has a follow up video to the bucket and he found an aquarium charcoal filter on Amazon (16" x 48") $12.99 you can put over the holes in the lid. I read a few forums that said an air purifier with an activated charcoal filter is a very good way to eliminate artist paint fumes including VOC's. I would still wear a mask, but it seems the bucket system can really help.
Now that is awesome and I want try that ! thanks for heads up Mike!!
Thanks for sharing. !
You bet Steve! 😁
Great idea
Thanks Sammy! So far it works pretty well.
Very cool I’m going to try it
Awesome amigo!
I use the carton that the new laundry sink and cabinet came in. Works well if I hold my breath and close my eyes.
Great upcycling of the box from the sink! 😊 It's a start though! My very first spray booth was made from an old cardboard file box my mom brought home from work when I was a kid. 😁
Awesome video
Thanks my friend! 😁
Pretty nifty, BG!
Thank you Brandon! 😊
That sure beats shooting paint in the 120 degree garage.
Heck yeah!!! 😂
I've used a similar bucket vent for years. The one I saw suggested charcoal in the water, but I found you cannot have the water above the inlet pipe as the fan was not strong enough to bubble in the water. I did away with the water and left the charcoal pushing the vent pipe into the charcoal. I'm pretty sure B. Rex suggested the pipe be a bit above the water level. Is that right? I should try that and see if it's any better. My buck was free since I got it from a bakery or Deli, and it had a screw cap. I just took off the cap for my air outlet from the bucket. It works ok. Results may vary with enamels and lacquers. I spray a bit of heavy-duty air freshener after, so any smell does not leave the dungeon. I think your orange oils are a good substitute. I think these are a great idea when you don't have a window available.
Hi Vince! Ah, charcoal!! Great idea!
That may be my next version. Nope, B Rex said to leave the inlet tube out of the water but as close as you can get it.
@@BGsModelWorkshop Thanks Bryan. I thought that was right and I am going to try it. The water should attract any particulates from the spray that get past the filters. I wish I could get it to bubble. That would be so much fun. 🤪
My paint booth has two switches. One for the fan and second one for the lights. My booth also leaks around that cupler on the back of the booth. The filter doesn't catch all the paint particles (overspray) either. That might be do to me spraying with rattle cans 🤷♂️
Howdy, oh wow, I would love to have separate switches on mine for the lights and fan. Oh yes, spray cans can overwhelm these little spray booths very easily. 😊
Back in the day before EPA regs, we would discharge auto a/c Freon the same way.
Really?! 😯 I bet that cost a lot less than way they don't today.
I made a gasket for my paint booth where it comes out on the back works great
Oh sweet. What did you make the gasket out of?
@@BGsModelWorkshop I got it at the autozone or O'Reilly's it is cork
Very cool
Hi Mars! Thanks my friend!
Vary cool glad it works for you lol 11minute video took me over a half an hour was stopping to check out a few kits you got like the PORSCHE 907/8 kit couldn't see who make it np.
for all the work you did
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Hi Deen, lol, you do that also? I sometimes pause videos to see the kits in the background. That 907/8 kit was made by Wave. I think they are a Japanese company. Seems like a good kit!
And thank you for the cookies!!! 😁
@@BGsModelWorkshop thanks I will check it out here for the tip 🍪🍪🍪🍪
Cool test VG
Thanks Justin!😁
Cool set up. However not sure if I would use any silicone even near the paint area, that might be an enemy for paint! Fisheyes are a concern! Armor all, caulking or anything with silicone should be avoided near your paint area. Unless maybe that caulk doesn’t have silicone in it. Just a thing to think of! Neat idea there BG! Thanks for the great content!🤔🫡🇺🇸
Hi Kevin, very good point. Turns out there isn't any silicone in the sealant. I know how that stuff can get into your skin and transfered to your projects through touch.
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If you can smell chemicals, they are getting to your lungs. They aren't just stinky, so masking the smell does absolutely nothing. I would still use a respirator. Probably not paint somwhere without adequate ventilation.
@@Roadrunners13 Adding a scent doesn't "reduce particle count".
@@Roadrunners13 We aren't discussing anything. You're commenting on something I wasn't talking about.
@@Roadrunners13 Tf? I wasn't apologizing.
@@Roadrunners13 I'm not upset. You are just extremely confused, I think.
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While I was initially very enthusiastic about Barbato Rex's video.
Then real life experience, kicked in and now I'm not quite as convinced.
I have dealt with pressures and vacuums in the oil exploration industry for going 15 years and if masking the smell of the thinners in the aerosols is what you are looking for, then this works the Aces.
If it's to remove the hazards, then I'm not convinced.
Or did I miss something?
Alcohols, lacquers and mineral spirits are lighter than ambient air we breathe. That's why you can smell it in another room, with any type of movement in air flow.
If it’s just an air freshener you are looking for, well.
Let the hate mail begin.
Did I miss something in both videos?
You probably behave a very good point. Like I say, i'm still searching for the best solution. This seems to do well so far. I mostly use tamiya acrylics. I do want to try some paint that is stronger. Will it work? Probably not. But I feel it's worth a try. Thank you for your comment and concern, It sounds like you have far more experience than I and I appreciate that greatly.
Thanks for the reply and correspondence.
Not so much as experience, Bryan. It's the fact that the vented exhaust is pushed to the surface of the water where it 'excites' the surface with the perfume added, then pushed by the same pressure from the booth through the charcoal vents, and I may be wrong, this is the question I'm asking anyone, is this enough to remove the reducers?
All the paint particles are captured by now, I'm sure.
I switched to Tamiya a couple years ago, with Mr. Leveling as my refuser. Everything. Not a spot of other paint. Like you, I'm looking for a viable, friendly solution.
@@cellardwellerproductions5125 B-Rex seemed like he knew what he was talking about about, but I too would like to know what exactly nis going on. (Science stuff) I feel from your description that his sort of set up is good for particles heavier than air. Which I didn't even consider. Some of the commenters have suggest doing away with the water and placing several inches of activities charcoal in the bucket. I wonder if stuffing the inlet tube into the charcoal would make for a better version. (I'm not really thrilled with the idea of a large bucket of water waiting to be knocked over in the hobby)
I am picking up, what you putting down.
I never thought of running the last couple inches of the hose into and under the charcoal. Bully!
And then vent through your holes/filters on top of the lid and I think you may be on to something.
The couple hundred CFM of air the booth generates is not enough to blow charcoal all over the place. Might stir up some dust, but your holes/filters would trap that.
Very good.
Do you pull the tube all the way through to the bottom of the bucket? Does that make the water burble?
Nope, the tube is about an inch off the surface of the water. The fan isn't strong enough to push the exhaust through the water.
Is the vent in the water or above it
Just above the water line. Turns out, if the inlet tube is in the water, the fan isn't strong enough to push the exhaust through the water and the fumes back up.
Is the vent hose submerged in the bucket of water?
No it's actually an inch or so above. The fan isn't powerful enough to push exhaust through the water and would back up.
Looks like thatcwould work great when using an air brush. How do you think it would handle using spray cans?
Hi Onix!! I feel this little booth would be overwhelmed by rattle-can paint and get clogged up super fast. I also feel the bucket would need to be upgraded to an activated charcoal filtration instead of water.
Could use kool- aid mix for a scent
Interesting idea! 👍
I’d like to know if it’s water only will it capture the smell of lacquer paint like Tamyia rattle can primer?
Good question! I feel rattle can would overwhelm my spray booth easily. However, not sure if the water would stop the rattle can over spray either. I plan to test the set up with some Lacquer paints a little later on in my next build!
I have a similar Amazon spray booth. I’m lucky enough to vent mine outside. How often do you change the filter in your spray booth? I can’t decide if I’m changing mine too often or not often enough. Peace and love.
Hi TJ! You are definitely lucky to be able to vent outside. To be honest, I haven't had a lot of time to use this booth since it was so hard to rig up a vent. However! Now that I have set up I like, we will see how quickly the filters need changing. A friend of mine has a similar booth and changes the filter occasionally. Usually he takes them out, and vacuums them to get the particle out. Then puts them back in. Get a long life out of them that way.
@@BGsModelWorkshopNever thought about vacuuming out the particles. That's a good idea, especially since I mostly spray acrylics. But I use Mr. Hobby rattle can primer as well, and it can clog the filter pretty quickly.
is it explosion proof?
What fun would that be? 😂
This concept does not work.
Care to elaborate???
HEY-DAR 👊😎👍: Mr. BG This is interesting 🤔 I could use something like this. Are you going to try a piss-can test anytime soon? I hope you don't mind I put this in my play#list under model Tips and tricks for more exposure 😊 Be Watching You Later, (MODEL CAR)🎭(MAN CAVE)
Howdy!! Thanks bud! LOL, nah, I need to get my steps in. 😁 The hobby room is a little too comfortable.
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Thanks Mike!