RC boat fire and explosion - caught on three cameras
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Ever have an RC with "Gremlins"?
My "Gremlin RC" is this Joysway Wildcat RC boat.
It's been one issue after the other with this boat, I just can't seem to be able to catch a break.
Today it all went horribly wrong - again.
For once, there were actually cameras present to document it...
Pretty sweet to cam the inside of the hull. Ive never thought of that one.
Thats why i run nitro. They never work long enough to heat up and catch on fire.
dart5722010 Haha. That's my kind of humor:D
Plus they’re slow lol
My friend likes nitro cars more than electric cars. He doesn’t like to drive them. He likes working on them. Makes sense now
@@addamworthy8644 nitro boats are not slow if you have the fast stuff....
My nitro cars all died early deaths, nitro plane at a fire inflight and went down in the ocean. (I'm from hawaii) it stalled then spun in. Never to be seen again.
I had the same boat and the esc blew up the same way at the first run
i cleaned up all the mess and put on a 200a/8s swordfish esc and then i had no more power issues
the boat became then very fun although it was a bit unstable at high speed
a bad motor stator typically causes that to happen. it creates a series of shorts when you start running it. the esc isn't able to handle the shorts ( loads ) very well and eventually burns up the esc.
stoneenforcer Hi, thanks for bringing this up. I will read more on this subject.
At least you didn't end up like Sir Malcolm Campbell, in his attempt at the world's speed record on water.
As soon as I saw the smoke and explosion, I knew it was your ESC. Happened to me a couple of times. The other thing I saw was no antenna high up from your hull. When the antenna is low in the boat you will lose radio contact very fast when moving away from shore. I also suspect that your LIPO volts may be to much for the ESC. My rule is use no more than 80% of ESC amp rating. Basically you need to balance the motor,ESC and LIPO power all together for the best operation. Lastly it sounded like your flex shaft needed grease. I have enjoyed learning the hard way myself. I have built and modified four rc boats so far. My fastest runs about 60mph. It wasn't cheap and I also blew the top off of two of my boats. Great video!!! Don't give up. The real joy comes in seeing your boat zoom through the water. Good luck...
Hi Rodney.
Thanks for your comments and your insight.
This boat has pretty much eaten ESCs...
On both of the last two occations, a brand new ESC has been used on a very easy run but has still left a little smoke coming out, and the ESC then fries on the second run. As you can see from this video, all it took was a few meters and then the fire was going.
The ESC's are 6s-compatible 180A Hobbywing Seakings running on 4s total.
Regarding the antenna, a 2,4GHz "whip" is typically only about 12 centimeters. The whip on this boat comes out of a waterprooof receiver box and then just sticks up for however far it can inside the hull. I have not had issues with this method on any of my boats or cars:)
The flex-shaft is quite noisy, but is was freshly lubricated when this happened, so I'd be surprised to see this being the case.
After some rather expensive experiences my conclusion is that there probably is a driveline issue at play. Since the flex shaft is well-greased, I'm thinking "overproping" og some weird and wonderful random issue with the shaft?
PS: Thanks for your comment on the video. I recently posted a video of a very successful run with another boat on my channel:) Have a look and let me know what you think:)
PPS: 60MPH is FAST! :D
I think someone already said this but.... if your rc vehicles are going to explode or crash or burn... at least get it on camera! and you did a good job of filming, so at least there's that. sorry for your troubles though.
Thank you for your kind comments. You are right. At least get it on video :)
I just said that - - - 3 years later! LOL!
@@Partykristian was the camera damaged and if the explosion would've not happened why didi u put a camera inside
@@aaa.2146 The camera was fine, but had some "dirty smoke residue on it". It was a Gopro with a dive housing so I washed it with a dishwashing brush :D
I had a feeling something might happen so I decided to film inside, just in case...
@@BradfordGuy Hey, great comments age like wine
WOW!!! You do have some gremlins there. I was ripping up flexshafts on my Miss GEICO 29. I had to redo my entire drive line with new components. This only happened when I went to a 12S setup. It was toooo much. I have since then scaled my power down to 8S max. The best rock solid ESC I have is the Castle ICE2 for marine. It was built to take 50volts. The bad thing is that they are hard find and expensive. 300 to 400 dollars. I am a little Leary of the 180a escs. I had that same one and it popped before I could get it in the water. The foreign made ESC tend to heat up fast even with good cooling. The esc with large capacitors seem to take more power.Take a look at the items on the "Off Shore" rc boat website. I think you will be impressed.
Almost a Viking funeral!
man that sucks you cant get to it just glad it did not burn to the ground it could have the motor did not sound right causing the esc to work harder and over heat
I have the exactly same crash yesterday boat died and after few seconds just exploded. Battery is fine just ESC for some reason burn out
That's not good looks like that boat needs a new engine and some other parts
I had the same probs with the 120 amp , I got a cannon size boom from my boat
lost the cowl lid but the boat was ok, there's a vid on my page,, sorry for your loss, Great in-boat footage, Thanks for the vid Mark
Thank you for your kind comment, will check out your vid:)
lipo tic-tac of death
+28noch Haha, yeah, I love the "James Bond Moment" right before the smoke comes out :D
When I saw the computer fan I had to wonder, Why use air to cool in an enclosed space when you have so much water available???
Racing 1/10th scale electric 2wd dirt oval cars in the late 1980's in NW Indiana, a kid was in the middle of a race. Smoke stared trailing the car. The ESC caught fire. The flames spread to the body, meanwhile he is still racing. Finally, after several more laps, the car began to slow and rolled to a fiery stop. The whole thing looked full scale. I expected the driver to bail out the drivers side at any point.
Dude, BATTERY ELIMINATING CIRCUIT (BEC). Your ESC has one but it clearly is overdrawn. A dedicated BEC can put out way more power for the RX and servos.
There has been quite some discussion further down you can read if you scroll down, but the cause has long since been established: Sticky bearing in driveline overloaded ESC on previous run, coocking all kinds of internals. This was the aftermath :/
Those ESCs could benefit from some overcurrent protection circuitry.
Agreed!
LoL, talk about scale accidents :p Hey, at least you got some great footage ;)
My helion rivos did the exact same thing. Except itnwas way further out and got stuck in full throtle without me being able to turn it. It went far off shore and stopped. I went on my kayak to go get it and it was very hot the top even started to melt. The esc was completely gone. After the explosion part it cracked down the back of the boat. There was so much smoke that when i opened it you could not see through it.
Scary runaway! Good thing it eventually stopped, these things can go for many kilometeres on full packs!
Like my ESC. I used a to small motor.
I use right now a Leopard4074 and a Hobbywimg 180A on 6S.
I feel your pain - and Oh, that smell of burnt electronics! I just had my own little boat fire a day ago on my custom made 20" Jet Ski. Wiring harness seems to catch fire. Burnt a hole right through the top and into the rider....
That smell is nasty. Vinegar left in a small cup inside the hull seems to help...
Dude sorry about your boat but that was awesome!
i gave the 100th like
FAN ON ESC WAS NOT TURNING AFTER YOU STARTED THE BOAT. You should have noticed that before you put the hatch cover on !
Its extra cooling fan, dont see the water lines?
Excellent footage sorry for your boat.
Holy crap man, that is a serious explosion, to crack the hull like that! WOW!
When I first got my boat I plugged the wrong size battery into it and it did this in my kitchen at home.... STINKS!!!!
You know, I actually said to my friend: "This could easily have happened in the house".
I don't think that stuff coming out of the ESC is exactly, shall we say, aroma therapy :D
The whole area smelled and the insides of the boat instantly changed color, powerful stuff!
Yep. Not good in the house. It was like a massive mushroom cloud. Took 2 weeks for the smell to get out. It was horrible. I can even smell it now just by thinking about it ha ha
It was worth it to catch this with three cams ;o) If i go for another ESC i will not choose a Hobbywing Seaking...
And next time-stay away from that brand power system. That’s probably the reason you had so many issues with your boat-it was a very nice boat.
The issue turned out to be a sticky bearing in the driveline, overloading the ESC, but thanks for your comment :)
Thank goodness no one was on board! She will live to run another day👍
I like how you document things as you tear them apart. Useful in the future. Don
Thanks for the comment. It's very easy to forget stuff in the excitement of a mishap, so nice to have it on cam:)
First sorry for the loss, she was good-looking. ESC failure, do you know what caused it to fail? FYI RUclips Big B has a video on the power sputter RC brush-less symptom. As Corrie posted great job on the 3 CAM angel.
2:41... was a slap in the face... I WOULD've BEEN PISSED!!!
Why are you not monitized? The views would have recouped some of the loss.
+crispyspa Good question. I guess it's just a hobby, and being a "free agent" allows me to use almost whatever music I want in my videos. At least that's how I understand it.
+Partykristian Nope. you can't use copyrighted music regardless of monitize status.
Do you have a link to where RUclips states this? What I have seen says something along the lines of "It may be OK and it may not be" depending on whether whoever owns the music asks you to remove it.
Just to be clear. Copyright Laws are exactly that, they are Laws, and not something YT have control over. Your status as a YT partner or not a YT partner will not change the Copyright Law.
I have since checked this more closely.
One can search for songs in the RUclips creator dashboard.
If the songs you wish to use are listed you can use them, but whatever revenue the video would be making ends up with the copyrightholders of the songs, instead.
This seems to be the case in this situation, and considering this video is doing quite well, I'd imagine the copyrightholders to the songs in question are fine with the situation. :)
Do you know what actually happened? I should say...what caused that?
Hello, thanks for asking. Yes, the ESC was damaged on the previous run. A sticky bearing was holding the motor back, causing the ESC to overload and be partially defective. On this run, this is what was left in it :/
OMG THIS ESC NOT FOR BOAT.....NEXT TIME USE WATER COOLING ESC.
I feel sorry for you, what a Disaster! annoying after all your work for the vid! cant blame the spectrum either! *-)
I was just wondering how you go about the CG with a boat?
I know you need to cg them for the high speed, what do you do? for CG?
Thanks for your kind thoughts! I'm by no means an expert, but it seems to me that CG works well when it's about 33% from the back of the boat.
That's what I aimed for in this video, and it seems to be pretty stable up until warp speed, when it "climbs out":
ruclips.net/video/hJ0igDgqu-s/видео.html
my rc boat was burnt too..explode the esc and hard to remove the bad smell and the brown color inside...any help,TIA..
You can get some of the discoloration off with an old dishwashing-brush and soapy water. As for the smell, try leaving a small cup of vinegar in the hull and close it off for a few days :)
thanks bro...
I have had 3 Seaking esc’s do that after just one ore 2 runs and one flycolor 150 do it yet the 2nd flycolor had no issue.
Over the years the esc’s that I have had this happen to the most is swordfish they are crap they have no real safety margin above their continuous rating. At least the Seaking and Flycolor has a huge safety margin.
I have had the boat severely scorched from an esc that caught fire it ruined the lipo as well.
This hobby can be a drag on the wallet.
Sorry for the loss, but right from the start I knew the camera work was looking really good , and knew the rest would be too! Well done, but $$ the next build will be great!
+Scott Connors Thanks for your kind comments. I do in fact have a few other boats. If you want, check out the videos of them on my channel :)
+Partykristian why have more than 1 boat? just get more batteries
+Anthony Abelardo Different boats have different capabilities, etc, and all look different in the water. I enjoy building and running my various models :)
Partykristian I mean, get different hulls then but all high-performance, one of each.
Scott Connors iiiiii
kyosho viper type R fast ,reliable , and priced to play cheap im less than 150 into it it jumps outta water on 3 S ,2200 ,30 c
I had a 180amp v3 Seaking do it .
I’ll Never buy a Seaking again
It was the same with my boat, the controller cables were unsoldered and the hull broke in exactly the same place, this is a high kv motor, put one in with less kv
Ah a case of the doodlewopper letting all the factory installed smoke out!! Yes folks I'm a rocket surgeon genius at large and I diagnose crap like this every day when I'm sleeping. Cause I never get shit done when I'm awake, cuz I'm crawling on RUclips when I'm awake, duh, lol!! I'm such a stud in my own mind!!!
Awesome!!!
That was a bad thing for the boat, but amazing footage of it!
+BNSFguy 617 Haha, yes, a true "Kodak moment" :D
boat can be put right.. the esc is now ballast weight and a talking point. battery might be ok but one of them connectors is bad now..... and all because when you put the lid on it pushed wires together when it pushed down the esc......... proper pissed off i bet.
Wait... I am considering buying a rc boat. Anyone knows a good rc boat for filming on it?
The only thing missing is that expensive burnt smell good luck next year
Iam sorry for your boat..i had the same problem...the smell inside the boat will not go out
I hope a running Video with my pimped BlackJack is coming soon.
LiPo issue. Over voltage or damaged. Might have been left in the sun.
Great vid.Great edit... And I suggest you take up sailing. xxxxx
Piss poor build. Looks like a shoddy soldering job created a short.
well i know why it started the water pump did not pump . or the bad battery can make a rc do explosiving things and it might be bad motor to.
You could have saved your money and be sitting in a warm house with a nice bourbon and some sweet leaf. _Live & Learn_ ; )
It's wery clear to me..It woun't run,because the smoke that runs it has come out...😁
Electronics shorted out and put a short in the LiPos that released gas and exploded? Sounds like it.
Yeah painful. Mind you I had 2 T180's blow up the same day about 4 months ago. I see you added a cooling fan...I took a different approach and put a water cooled ESC cooler on the base and then (using the heatsinks from previous T180 blowups I made up an additional cooler cold soldered onto the heatsink. I think it works
Hello. Thanks for your kind comment.
I stuck the fan on there just for giggles really. I don't know, perhaps it will help in cooling slightly after a run is over and there is no more water flow?
Anyways, the boat had cooling lines running through the ESC as well as through a heat sink the ESC was attached to:)
It would have worked better if you put gasoline in it.
Hello esc no marine , le tp a besion de plus ampère 300 et non 180 à
Bien la caméra intérieur et extérieur
Transmission ok non bloquer attention à cela aussi
I don't think the pilot survived the explosion
Mir ist mit diesem Regler das selbe nach ca 2min passiert.Alle Daten wurden mit der Jeti aufgezeichnet.Der Motor zog max.65 Ampere bei 6S. Regler und Motor kamen nicht über 40Grad.Das war für diesen 180A Regler zu viel.Ich fahre nun mit einem 120Ampere Castle Creations Phoenix ICE V2 HV aus einem Hubi.Den habe ich gestrippt und mit 3 Wasserkühlern umbaut plus einem Prozessorkühler und 4 ZusatzKondensatoren.Keine Probleme mehr.
I blew up an ESC, turns out the motor was at fault, then again, it was a really big motor and a 30 amp esc, the motor was rated to draw 6 amps... at around 200v, I gave it 12, it exploded. WHOOPS!
Yeah, that'll do it !:O
Was that a deadmau5 song in the intro/outro?
Time to pee on it...if it's close enough.
Faulty capacitor leaked and then exploded. That sucks. lol
I don't think that was it, but thanks for your suggestion. If you read the comments below you will see that there is more info there. Have a nice day.
Smoke on the water?
Your ESC fan didn't work and it over heated and blew up
Thanks for your suggestion, but your conclusion is incorrect. A quick scroll down the comments section will reveal all :)
When I first saw this i was like “tHeRe cHeaP iTS fiNe” now that I have 2 RC cars that is an expensive fail sorry about your boat dude and I’ve also had my second cars motor burn on me so I know how it feels
@@allengrier4767 I’ve had 2 for abt a year now and actually I’m buying a new one soon so you can’t really call me a beginner
@@allengrier4767 now u just flexing lol
@@allengrier4767 It doesn’t matter how many cars you have dude it’s also how good you are on the track, road, etc.
@@allengrier4767 I wouldn’t call them toys but you can call them whatever the hell you want lol
@@allengrier4767 and I also do take my RC cars seriously. Is it a problem to take things seriously? If so just tell me.
Wtf is that blinking red light? Self destruct ?
Haha, yes it's the timer! :D No, seriously, I think it's a reflection of the record-light on one of the cameras.
I see your problem it's electric
Perhaps is was just the frame rate, but it looked like your ESC fan was not moving, if so, was it supposed to move, or was it on a thermistor? I am a land-RCer, but dabbling in the world of boats. Stuttering throttle is normally a sign of a brown-out, likely caused by a failing ESC BEC, or a servo going bad (drawing too much current), your ESC resetting like it was is a good indication of this. Sorry for your grimlins, we all get them.
+DargoDog Thanks for your comment. All of this is explained in either the film or in the comments below :). It's a water-cooled ESC, no need for the fan. The ESC became damaged from the previous run, resulting in the intermittent power seen in this video.
1:53 lol…ah this hilarious 😂
Пипец во всех ракурсах засняли !
A lot of money down the drain
I think you are (almost) an expert at wiring
+Liketo Jump A bit of that. And a bit of OCD :D
looks to me either you over powered your esc most likely due to the location of where it melted or you have too big/too small of a motor for that esc! to put it in an easy to understand prospective its simular to a car stereo system if a subwoofer is rated for say 400w (rms) and 800w max and you put either a 150w amp or a 1000w amp on it, something is going to give and burn up! my advice from experience is to stick with known brand esc and motor combo kits such as the traxxas vxl 6s kit not sure what you are running but that's just my advice or buy something already fast and leave it the hell alone lol like ive always been told if its not broken don't fix it lol 😂 hope you get it all fixed soon bud!
Thanks for your insight. The driveline had a rusty bearing that provided extra mechanical resistance for the motor, leading to the ESC overheating. This happened on the previous run to this one, meaning the ESC was already damaged. It's all discussed in various comments below :)
what setup that you using ? 6s or 4s....what size tppower motor ? kv? ..
Hi Otai Ben!
What seems to be happening with this boat is that the ESCs let out a little bit of smoke on their first run, even if they are not hot.
Then, on the second run, they burn up completely, like in the video.
Since I have had several occurunces playing out very similarly I'm thinking driveline/prop-issue, even if I can't seem to pinpoint it.
The setup in the video is Hobbywing Seaking 180 ESC on 4S and a 40mm TP motor, 1900KV.
Weird!
boat fire
you got so lucky dude
Wut's dat beeping sound in the boat???
+Pranav Kushnoor I'm not sure, to be honest:
I think it's an alarm that the ESC normally sounds via the motor when there is no signal coming from the receiver.
Although the receiver probably was just fine, the ESC was damaged internally in probably several ways, preventing power from going to the receiver, making another part of the ESC (which most likely wasn't destroyed yet) think the radio gear was down.
Eeeeehhh that sucks sorry for your loss man, I only have a traxxas stampede electric, dromida and a traxxas nitro 3.3 slash
Traxxas have nice stuff, including a cool new boat that just came out:) Thanks for your comment:)
Fire in the cockpit!!!!
Det skjedde med meg å en gang.. xD
Ikke moro, og alt for dyrt!
Men sjelden en har så flaks at slike ting filmes av hele TRE kameraer!
Exactly the same happen to my genesis.
The esc is water cool and it does a excellent job at it but why do you have a fan on top of that?? Unless you're running a separate battery for the fan all it doing is draining your battery and taken away power from your receiver and servo.
All true, but the ESC is more than capable of running the fan. The initial idea was that the fan would help cool the ESC if liPo-cut should render the boat immovable during a very hard run. Going from very high current draw to a full standstill would probably not be great for the ESC, so I figured every little bit helps :)
nightmare but repair that hull with some glass fibre rather than disposing of it and buy a decent esc
At the moment it's decorating a wall on my veranda, but who knows what the future holds :)
gotta love those esc if they don't get water they over heat ,I have BN down this road I had to buy a new due to mine was not pumping water at all causing everything to over heat I was playing in my pool ,but I was planning on upgrading to bigger and better
Hi James, thanks for your comment.
As it turns out it was a sticky bearing on the propshaft that overloaded the motor/ESC and damaged the ESC on the previous run :( Best of luck on your boating endevours :)
hahaha,it s like a bomb
oh noooo! did the pilot make it alive?
+coldude09 Haha, he was coughing a lot, for sure! :D
When I was first into rc boats, every time I tried changing something there was a fire, boats burned up. Found out I wasn't using the right speed controls. Now I buy them with matching motors.
It committed suicide.
well maybe your cooling fan shoud've worked
+ryan m99 Well, maybe it's a water-cooled setup with no need for a fan ;)
Been there. Thats such a shitty feeling. We know so well.
Bro Cha Cho Thank you for your sympathies!:)
Those thing's smell like a stink bomb went off when they cook like that...
bad lipo caused this, the hull can be repaired. Not the Esc fault.
Thanks for commenting, but you are way off. The ESC was damaged on the previous run due to a rusty bearing in the driveshaft.
Abandon ship !!!!!!
That's gotta suck. I got a boat for Christmas (my first RC Boat- a UL-1 Superior) and when I went to use it for the first time, it sparked when I plugged the batteries in, and the throttle doesn't work. It seems like the connector from the speed control is messed up. I was very disappointed.
I just wanna go hug my boat...
We all need a little TLC sometimes! :)
Oh Man, sooo sorry for ya. That is not a video you want to make right? lol Been there done that. Check #MHzJetboats for my epic loss!