I picked up the Zeiss 25 f2 used for $850 from ebay, 10/10 condition with box and everything. The 24 1.4 GM makes me drool, but for $500 less I'll take 1 stop slower aperture. (Also I own the Batis 18mm and 85mm so I enjoy having a a more consistent lens lineup.) But if I had to pick between the Zeiss and the Sony brand new, the Sony would be a no-brainer. I'm impressed with the faster glass Sony has been making for FE. The 24 GM is a surprisingly small lens given the tad oversized problem Sony lenses tend to have. I'd like to see a similarly sized 35 1.4 GM someday.
Batis has better colors + better rendering 04:22 . Also the GM 24 gets CA just as bad @ 09:47 ( Magenta CA on espresso machine, Green CA on the rear window ). Definitely closer than it seems!
Hey Jason!! I just want to thank you for everything you've done so far. You've converted me from a Panasonic G85 to an A7iii!!! I've been watching all your videos about the a7iii so far and it's been really helpful for filming videos and pics for my tech channel. Hopefully I will be able to meet you one day (be alpha in Vancouver BC 2/20?) to thank you in person. I really appreciate the advice you gave to me a few months back and hopefully reaching the 10K mark in December this year! and btw...the sony 24mm f1.4 gonz be my next purchase because of this vid haha!!
So, to sum up, the GM produces smoother background blur and cleaner bokeh balls, while the Batis has a better focus tracing and being a tad bit lighter (although the CA is more visible). Looks like I'm keeping my Batis 25. I think the color it renders are more pleasing to my taste. Thank you, Jason, for answering this question! On a side note, the Batis is selling at around US$970 here in Hong Kong :)
I have the batis, for like a year. I wish I could switch for 1.4 and hold down button. But Jason is true, Upgrading to 24 1.4 will need couple hundreds dollar more. Maybe better I save my money for Batis 2/40 CF or used FE 85.
For the APSC format, your best choice is the Sigma 16mm F1.4 DC DN. Outstanding lens in every way that can be used with Clear Image Zoom, giving you a 16mm to 32mm option even while shooting video. A great super sharp E mount at a reasonable price! It will match any lens posted in this video. I'll be posting some samples on my channel shortly.
I can barely see the difference in the background blur between the Ziess and the Sony. I guess if I'm going to get the Sony would be the fact its better at low light and the handling (I love aperture rings)
I found my Batis 25 used for 800 right before the announcement of the GM. After seeing them side by side I feel pretty happy keeping it like you mentioned for current owners. If I was comparing the two new I would probably pick the 1.4, but I think my GAS is actually okay on this one lol!
Akshay Jumani I found it locally at the camera store here in my hometown used. I thought it might be rare, but they had another one a few weeks later for similar price. I think it was 850 because it had the lens hood and box
I have been a subscriber to this channel since you had around 1.000 subs and I must say, you are really improving every single upload. Good job Jason, you really deserve your channel growth :-)
Just started watchin' your vids yesterday and I've been on a gear frenzy today. Your channel has come up a lot in the content I've been searching for so thanks for the vids. Love the style, the jokes and the quality.
looks zeiss gives better skin tone @3:15 and @5:25 ? Also wondering if GM autofocus will be improved and better than zeiss after the up coming sony firmware update!!!
Great comparison ... I purchased the Batis a little before I heard about the Sony and was getting a little lens envy when reviews for the 24 started rolling out, so this vid is exactly what I was looking for. All in all, I really do love the Batis ... selling it and purchasing the 24 id def be out a couple hundred .. better use towards something else. Like a 40 CF hehe
Great comparison! Thank you for all your hard work putting this review together. Although you recommended the Sony 24mm, I am getting the Batis 25mm based on your excellent autofocus test, which seemed to show the Batis is vastly superior.
Thanks for the comparison. Honestly, i think if one is willing to spend $1300.. they should just drop $100 more for the Sony GM. But but, if anyone is out in the used market, Batis has become a really good value with its used price dropping to like $900. It is a beautiful glass and performs really brilliantly
Have a look on eBay used Zeiss Batis 25mm I got mine for $750 look look like everybody is is buying the gmaster and selling the Zeiss at the price I’m happy . I still see about 2 or 3 going up everyday go for a bid not a buy now for the best price
I already have the Sony Zeiss 24/1.8 on my a6500, but I really want to get the new GM lens because of the depth chroma aberrations. You can also see them on the Batis lens, notice how the bokeh balls have a bright outline that is also coloured green/blue depending on the WB. Where as the GM lens just has those perfect transparent spheres with clean edges. It's not a big problem with some shots when the entire background is blurred but whenever you have transitions into/out of focus, you can get a massive amounts of coloured edges that are impossible to remove in LR.
18mm, 25mm, 40mm, 85mm and 135mm Batis lenses are all 67mm filter thread because Zeiss is trying to keep their whole line up of Batis lenses uniform. They are targeting hybrid and travel shooters and the less gear you have to carry the better.
My current setup is as follows - might make a change but wondering what your thoughts are. I’m all landscape, travel and astro. Sony a7R Batis 25mm f2 Sony Zeiss 35mm f2.8 Sony Zeiss 55mm f1.8 Sony G OSS 90mm macro f2.8
I love the smaller form factor of the Zeiss of the 55 1.8 it’s just a little out of my price point. I’ve been thinking about choosing the Sigma 16mm because that would be the equivalent of a 24mm & It would be a great addition to my 6300
Jason Vong I will admit the Zeiss 55 1.8 looks so sexy on an APSC body. But the 16mm Is definitely something I’m keeping my eye on. Especially around Black Friday or Cyber Monday
Thanks for the video great comparison. I personally tried both lenses on my A7III and I can say Batis all the way, sharper then GM, also better in terms of colours and contrast. The GM has manual controls on the lens and this could be a plus but in therms of glass quality I think Batis is much better.
Jason - wouldn't the highly regarded Sigma 16mm 1.4 be a better recommendation for a 24 mm field of view on a Sony aps-c camera? I love my 24 1.8 but that gives the 35- ish field of view on the cropped sensor.
Awesome comparison Jason! I sold my Batis 25 to get the 24GM because of the insane chromatic abberation. Thanks again for featuring some of my footage 👊🏼 collab #2 in the books 🎥
Hey Jason. Thinking about a batis 40mm as a walk around lens right now... But due the issue this lens is had some issues with af-c and eye af... I am thinking about one of your shown lenses using them in crop mode with my A7riii and have the benefits of having a wide angle, small and somehow lightweight lens on top. What do you think? (shooting purpuses. My kid and holiday where I do not want to carry around my 24-70gm)
don’t know if there’s something wrong with my 24GM but it doesn’t seem as sharp as i’ve seen other 24GM lenses so now i’m thinking of returning my 24GM for the 25batis especially since it’s on sale right now at BH
Hey Jason, I have neither of these lens but I'm able to pickup the batis for $830, and the GM $1398. From your comparison, the 1mm difference is almost negligible but is the extra stop worth the $568? Which one would you go for?
hey whats the difference between ND64 and ND1000, I wanted to make travel videos for myself, and i was thinking about buying the PolarPro Quartzline 3 Pack(ND8,ND16,ND64) which one would get pick? Im gonna do basic stuff, nothing crazy
would you get the 35 or 24 1.4 for portraits? most ppl would say 35 because of less distortion but I heard the new 24 has very minimal distortion so idk if itd a game changer (haven't watched your video yet so idk if you discussed it 😂)
Excellent video ! I was having such a hard time deciding between the Gmaster and the Batis. I’ve decided to go with the Gmaster but they’re not in stock anywhere !
Suprisely, for me it seems Batis did much better AF-C job as GM and colors are slightly warmer. Someone asking Sigma 16mm but this cheap lens is not comparable with these two great wideangles. Sigma 16mm is maybe good for shooting your kids birthday party not any professional workings. I have it and i will sell it soon.
I own the 25 Batis, but damnnn the jump from ISO 6400 to 12800??? That’s a huge difference for video, isn’t it? I have had clean footage recovered from the 25mm on an A7iii at 12800 before, but don’t you think having that huge step up in low-light performance is worth it? 🤔 Still debating on upgrading.
Hi Jason any issues with balancing the Sony 24mm GM on the Weebill lab gimbal? Looking for an ultra wide on my A7iii but need it to be compatible with the Weebill Lab too. Super excited about the upcoming Sony event in Vancouver in Feb. I’ll be there and hope to meet!
What you think about this combo 24mm f1.4 28-75mm tamron 85mm f1.8 For videos and documenting events and occasional pictures or you recommend other lens instead of the 24mm f1.4
@@JibaroTech Good question - I am wondering the same thing. I have the Tamron and the 85 f1.8 and am wanting to complement those two on the wide end for a light travel kit. Debating between the 24 f1.4 and the 16-35 f.4. I would love Tamron to release a 16-35 ish lens on par with their 28-75. I would buy that in a heart beat!
Still can’t decide because of the video autofocus tracking. Would you know if there’s a possibility that through a Sony software update, the focus tracking of the Sony 24mm f/1.4 be improved? Or it’s a hardware issue?
Jason Vong would you recommend this focal length for a first purchase or the Batis 18mm? Slowly transitioning to Sony lenses from a canon user. My canon lens setup is 35mm f/1.4, 16-35 f/4 IS, 85mm f/1.2, all adapted with metabones
I owned both the Batís and the Sony GM at the same time - shot them side by side. Without a doubt the Sony outperformed the Zeiss in all categories, including focusing performance. I sold the Batís and kept the Sony
Thank you Jason, I am looking for a new wide angle lens. I am deciding between the batis 18mm f2.8 vs the G master 24mm f1.4. Which one would you pick, after using the 24mm now? Thank you in advance.
Hey Jason, I own Sony a7iii, I'm looking for a prime lens which will work for landscape, astro and portraits. I don't wanna own many lenses, would be easier to travel with one/two lenses. Which one could you recommend?
I watch all of your videos. You and professor Hines. Funny thing is I am a Canon user not Sony lol. I still enjoy watching you do your thing. Maybe I will go to Sony later on? Ah idk. Keep up the great work Jason. Thanks for entertaining us
I don't know why but, I have a Sony APS-C 35mm 1.8 / A7s, and at 12600 ISO I have a lot of noise, do you know why ? Changed from s-log 2 to cine 1 but I don't know why I have a lot of noise in low light.. Maybe because I'm making videos in 1080p 60fps ?
Jason Vong No i didn't test with a Full Frame lens and no I didn't try too about exposing like this, I will try all of this because I'm hesitating about having a FF Lens, Black Friday is coming but I want a 1.8 or 1.4 between 16 or 24 mm and I don't know exactly the lens I can take, I want to have a " sharp lens " at least. If you want to have a idea, I'm a " night man " I love to take photos and videos at night, especially bats.
Hey, Jason thanks for giving such great info on these lenses. I have a dilemma, I can get a brand new 25mm Batis for $850 or a brand new Sony 24mm for $1140, but its back-ordered. Which do you suggest if my primary use is for Vlogging and a wide for video?
I'm noticing from your side-by-sides, the Zeiss lens seems to have a little warmer tone, most notably with skin tones. Was your footage shot with any differing profiles that would cause this, or would you say that the lenses typically render color this way? BTW, thank you for these videos, they're really well done and helpful!
Great video. I do appreciate your channel. Regarding these two lenses here in the UK the Sony GM is approx twice the price of the Batis and frankly I consider the Batis to be an incredible lens. Chacun à son goût!
You failed to mention a few things - flare resistance and the digital readout window on the Batis. Nice review otherwise. Are they both weather sealed?
Thats a tough one.. I love the Zeiss colors, but for a $100 more I'll take better bokeh, low light, and Sony Pro Support will service the GM I'd have to say..
I have a theory that they’ll keep the 135 GM light also. I believe they’ll stick it in the 100 STF GM’s body and use some XA glass again with that super silent and fast motor.. it’ll be wicked. The separation and compression of that 135 at 1.8 will be disgustingly breathtaking
Had no idea the lens could affect colours so much! Also the autofocus on the Zeiss is perfect. In video the Sony lens is slow at times. Could this be a firmware update? Because it does not seem to be the motor speed in the lenses the difference.
paouvous I love my Zeiss glass that I do use. The motor in that 24 GM is supposed to be really fast but it would depend what you’re shooting it at F stop wise. The 85 1.4 GM is a little slow to focus and that’s because if you’re shooting something at 1.4 it takes a split second to move all that glass and acquire focus on such a short depth of field. I believe the 24 GM has the better newer motors similar to the 400 2.8 for speed. You definitely can’t go wrong with either lens for sure. Just a matter of what you’re looking for.
I think maybe someone below mentioned this but I was just thinking I’d love to see you or Danny do a 24 1.4 GM comparison to the Sigma 16 1.4 APSC since they comparatively have a similar Fov
Robin Here 🙋♂️ I can see a big difference between both lenses … only the 1 millimeter focal length. I think for that price … zeiss did a really good job. What do you think about the background blurryness ? Is it positive to shot portraits with the Batis 25mm ? Greetings Robin from Germany 🇩🇪
In the UK the price difference between the two lenses is approximately 400 pound so the choice is more difficult the batis is around 979 pound and the 24 mm g master is 1400 pound I managed to get a mint batis for 700 pound and am very pleased with the images I get from it in my opinion fast lenses are over rated 99 percent of lenses have there sweet spot between f4 to f8 and all said and done it's all about image quality
I picked up the Zeiss 25 f2 used for $850 from ebay, 10/10 condition with box and everything. The 24 1.4 GM makes me drool, but for $500 less I'll take 1 stop slower aperture. (Also I own the Batis 18mm and 85mm so I enjoy having a a more consistent lens lineup.) But if I had to pick between the Zeiss and the Sony brand new, the Sony would be a no-brainer. I'm impressed with the faster glass Sony has been making for FE. The 24 GM is a surprisingly small lens given the tad oversized problem Sony lenses tend to have. I'd like to see a similarly sized 35 1.4 GM someday.
Batis has better colors + better rendering 04:22 . Also the GM 24 gets CA just as bad @ 09:47 ( Magenta CA on espresso machine, Green CA on the rear window ).
Definitely closer than it seems!
kane01337 Zeiss pop
Sigma looks too big. Why buy something so big in a wide angle. You are more likely to use smaller apertures then to open up a wide angle
Hey Jason!! I just want to thank you for everything you've done so far. You've converted me from a Panasonic G85 to an A7iii!!! I've been watching all your videos about the a7iii so far and it's been really helpful for filming videos and pics for my tech channel. Hopefully I will be able to meet you one day (be alpha in Vancouver BC 2/20?) to thank you in person. I really appreciate the advice you gave to me a few months back and hopefully reaching the 10K mark in December this year! and btw...the sony 24mm f1.4 gonz be my next purchase because of this vid haha!!
NICE! gogogogo!
So, to sum up, the GM produces smoother background blur and cleaner bokeh balls, while the Batis has a better focus tracing and being a tad bit lighter (although the CA is more visible). Looks like I'm keeping my Batis 25. I think the color it renders are more pleasing to my taste. Thank you, Jason, for answering this question!
On a side note, the Batis is selling at around US$970 here in Hong Kong :)
I did notice the Batis produced a more warmer tone than the GM
I have the batis, for like a year. I wish I could switch for 1.4 and hold down button. But Jason is true, Upgrading to 24 1.4 will need couple hundreds dollar more. Maybe better I save my money for Batis 2/40 CF or used FE 85.
Appreciate the comparison. I have, and love the batis 25 - but could have been swayed to upgrade if the image quality was substantially better.
For the APSC format, your best choice is the Sigma 16mm F1.4 DC DN. Outstanding lens in every way that can be used with Clear Image Zoom, giving you a 16mm to 32mm option even while shooting video. A great super sharp E mount at a reasonable price! It will match any lens posted in this video. I'll be posting some samples on my channel shortly.
I can barely see the difference in the background blur between the Ziess and the Sony. I guess if I'm going to get the Sony would be the fact its better at low light and the handling (I love aperture rings)
I found my Batis 25 used for 800 right before the announcement of the GM. After seeing them side by side I feel pretty happy keeping it like you mentioned for current owners. If I was comparing the two new I would probably pick the 1.4, but I think my GAS is actually okay on this one lol!
Akshay Jumani I found it locally at the camera store here in my hometown used. I thought it might be rare, but they had another one a few weeks later for similar price. I think it was 850 because it had the lens hood and box
Got my 24mm 1.4GM today. You're right - it's amazing. Thanks for your great comparison!
Recently bought the Batis 25 and 85 in mint condition for $1300 for both 😛
a steal !!!
wtf
Where did you get this great deal??
Dareck Maurice Sony buy/sell Facebook group
:o
I’ll be keeping my Batis 25 and getting the Weebill Lab - this appears to be my best combo for travels with a lightweight gimbal setup
Thanks Jason. I am loving my 24mm GM for my A6500, A7III and A7RIII. Cheers
I have been a subscriber to this channel since you had around 1.000 subs and I must say, you are really improving every single upload. Good job Jason, you really deserve your channel growth :-)
OG! Nice! thanks for being on this journey with me :)
@@JasonVong It has been a true pleasure sir! I'm sure the journey has only begun ;-)
Just started watchin' your vids yesterday and I've been on a gear frenzy today. Your channel has come up a lot in the content I've been searching for so thanks for the vids. Love the style, the jokes and the quality.
3 years old video but I'm thinking on getting the Batis set against GM
Same!
The Batis with the tree behind Jason as he walks towards the camera pops. You can see that 3D clean look
commenting before i watch the video fully... because this is so exciting. thank you for making this!
Thanks Dennis!
looks zeiss gives better skin tone @3:15 and @5:25 ? Also wondering if GM autofocus will be improved and better than zeiss after the up coming sony firmware update!!!
Great comparison ... I purchased the Batis a little before I heard about the Sony and was getting a little lens envy when reviews for the 24 started rolling out, so this vid is exactly what I was looking for. All in all, I really do love the Batis ... selling it and purchasing the 24 id def be out a couple hundred .. better use towards something else. Like a 40 CF hehe
Great comparison! Thank you for all your hard work putting this review together. Although you recommended the Sony 24mm, I am getting the Batis 25mm based on your excellent autofocus test, which seemed to show the Batis is vastly superior.
Thanks for the comparison.
Honestly, i think if one is willing to spend $1300.. they should just drop $100 more for the Sony GM.
But but, if anyone is out in the used market, Batis has become a really good value with its used price dropping to like $900.
It is a beautiful glass and performs really brilliantly
I got my Batis 25mm used on eBay, in like new condition, for only $760. Excellent lens!
I got the same for 600 Dollars. The GM cost twice so much.
I asked you to do this vid a while back. So glad you did! This video is important for us music video shooters.
haha yep! I remember! Took me awhile but I finally got the 24mm on loan to do this video!
@@JasonVong Nice! Now I have to save up more money. 😂
Great review as always! If I ever pick-up a Sony full-frame I will definitely pick-up the 24mm GM.
I just bought the 24mm 1.4 GM. Thanks for the great reviews.
I don’t know if it’s just the slightly different colour and contrast on the Batis but it looks sharper.
dat zeiss 3d pop
Have a look on eBay used Zeiss Batis 25mm I got mine for $750 look look like everybody is is buying the gmaster and selling the Zeiss at the price I’m happy . I still see about 2 or 3 going up everyday go for a bid not a buy now for the best price
No focus breathing on Batis!
Can you compare the cheapest 28mm F2 with it?
Wanted to ask the same question! I have the 28mm and I am thinking about an upgrade.
+1 to that
+1 to that
Another 1 here
Wildly different FL, the 28 is a nice budget lens, not comparable
Nice video Jason!
Waiting for that 24mm GM vs 24mm Art ;)
can you make review between sigma 14-24mm f2.8 with Zeiss batis 18mm f2.8? i'm confused with both lenses
I have the Zeiss Batis 25/2 and like the results of the pictures. I have no intention getting the Sony 24/1.4 lens.
How good is the autofocus of the sigma compared to the 24 F1.4? Would you say it’s 90% or less?
Interested to see the 24mm 1.8 vs GM 24 1.4 on A6000
Me too!!
A lens made for aps-c will generally always be sharper than a expensive full frame lens when put on a aps-c body.
I already have the Sony Zeiss 24/1.8 on my a6500, but I really want to get the new GM lens because of the depth chroma aberrations. You can also see them on the Batis lens, notice how the bokeh balls have a bright outline that is also coloured green/blue depending on the WB. Where as the GM lens just has those perfect transparent spheres with clean edges. It's not a big problem with some shots when the entire background is blurred but whenever you have transitions into/out of focus, you can get a massive amounts of coloured edges that are impossible to remove in LR.
18mm, 25mm, 40mm, 85mm and 135mm Batis lenses are all 67mm filter thread because Zeiss is trying to keep their whole line up of Batis lenses uniform. They are targeting hybrid and travel shooters and the less gear you have to carry the better.
This is the video I was waiting for, thx Jason for making it! Those lenses are so close its hard for me to tell the difference.
Nice vid. For APS-C I would recommend the Sigma 16mm 1.4 instead.
My current setup is as follows - might make a change but wondering what your thoughts are. I’m all landscape, travel and astro.
Sony a7R
Batis 25mm f2
Sony Zeiss 35mm f2.8
Sony Zeiss 55mm f1.8
Sony G OSS 90mm macro f2.8
what if you havent set the af track duration to fast in both cameras??? 3:00
The 24GM is def my next pick up! So damn butter.
I love the smaller form factor of the Zeiss of the 55 1.8 it’s just a little out of my price point. I’ve been thinking about choosing the Sigma 16mm because that would be the equivalent of a 24mm & It would be a great addition to my 6300
Sigma 16mm is SOLID
Jason Vong I will admit the Zeiss 55 1.8 looks so sexy on an APSC body. But the 16mm Is definitely something I’m keeping my eye on. Especially around Black Friday or Cyber Monday
Thanks for the video great comparison. I personally tried both lenses on my A7III and I can say Batis all the way, sharper then GM, also better in terms of colours and contrast. The GM has manual controls on the lens and this could be a plus but in therms of glass quality I think Batis is much better.
This video convinced me to go for the Batis. Thanks for the great content as always.
Jason - wouldn't the highly regarded Sigma 16mm 1.4 be a better recommendation for a 24 mm field of view on a Sony aps-c camera?
I love my 24 1.8 but that gives the 35- ish field of view on the cropped sensor.
Yep! You're correct! I was just answering more on the basis of someone who's looking to get a 35-ish look on an APSC
bought tamron 17-70 for my a6700 as a first lens. since getting Batis 25 for 6400 SEK i am rarely using tamron...zeiss is just so enjoyable 😅
FINALLY!! The Fight that I've been waiting for lol!! Gonna get my popcorn and watch it now... THANKS JASE!! ;)
Hi ! Would this be good for shooting indoor basketball from right under the basket ? I have an A9
Awesome comparison Jason! I sold my Batis 25 to get the 24GM because of the insane chromatic abberation. Thanks again for featuring some of my footage 👊🏼 collab #2 in the books 🎥
Thanks for taking them!
Jason Vong 😎👊🏼 #TeamHybrid
How about focus breathing? Comparison of the 3 lenses.
Hey Jason. Thinking about a batis 40mm as a walk around lens right now... But due the issue this lens is had some issues with af-c and eye af... I am thinking about one of your shown lenses using them in crop mode with my A7riii and have the benefits of having a wide angle, small and somehow lightweight lens on top. What do you think?
(shooting purpuses. My kid and holiday where I do not want to carry around my 24-70gm)
Which of the lenses do you think is better for video overall?
Batis
Great stuff! Keep up with all the great reviews.
Thank you!!
Nice love the review. In terms of just still photography, is the autofocus still faster on the Batis?
great video thanks Jason Vong
the GM af tracking in video dont look good, even bad...at 2:27
don’t know if there’s something wrong with my 24GM but it doesn’t seem as sharp as i’ve seen other 24GM lenses so now i’m thinking of returning my 24GM for the 25batis especially since it’s on sale right now at BH
Does Batis work with weebill or dji in electronic remote control (focus, aperture, ecc...) with Sony a7s3? Thanks
Hey Jason, I have neither of these lens but I'm able to pickup the batis for $830, and the GM $1398. From your comparison, the 1mm difference is almost negligible but is the extra stop worth the $568? Which one would you go for?
Batis then. Save the money for another lens!
hey whats the difference between ND64 and ND1000, I wanted to make travel videos for myself, and i was thinking about buying the PolarPro Quartzline 3 Pack(ND8,ND16,ND64) which one would get pick? Im gonna do basic stuff, nothing crazy
Not too expert on this matter but I think 1000 would be used for crazy long exposure stuff
prince2thethrone I don’t think you use a ND1000 during video at all, just at for stills. I think it says what you use it for on the PolarPro website
@@timolsson525 good look bro
would you get the 35 or 24 1.4 for portraits? most ppl would say 35 because of less distortion but I heard the new 24 has very minimal distortion so idk if itd a game changer (haven't watched your video yet so idk if you discussed it 😂)
probably 35mm
Yes 35mm is very popular and kinda what our eyes see.
Excellent video ! I was having such a hard time deciding between the Gmaster and the Batis. I’ve decided to go with the Gmaster but they’re not in stock anywhere !
Suprisely, for me it seems Batis did much better AF-C job as GM and colors are slightly warmer. Someone asking Sigma 16mm but this cheap lens is not comparable with these two great wideangles. Sigma 16mm is maybe good for shooting your kids birthday party not any professional workings. I have it and i will sell it soon.
The Zeiss still stands out to me their glass just looks different
Their lens design is on point!
Zeiss has that special look you can always tell. It just looks so much cleaner
I own the 25 Batis, but damnnn the jump from ISO 6400 to 12800??? That’s a huge difference for video, isn’t it? I have had clean footage recovered from the 25mm on an A7iii at 12800 before, but don’t you think having that huge step up in low-light performance is worth it? 🤔 Still debating on upgrading.
5:14 is anyone noticed that big difference in skin tone what happened? Really is it just because of the lends?
I would recommend the sigma 30mm 1.4 cheaper for apsc spending a grand for apsc lens makes no sense
Hi Jason any issues with balancing the Sony 24mm GM on the Weebill lab gimbal? Looking for an ultra wide on my A7iii but need it to be compatible with the Weebill Lab too.
Super excited about the upcoming Sony event in Vancouver in Feb. I’ll be there and hope to meet!
What you think about this combo
24mm f1.4
28-75mm tamron
85mm f1.8
For videos and documenting events and occasional pictures or you recommend other lens instead of the 24mm f1.4
Looks good!
Jason Vong better than the 16-35 f4 that I was thinking right ?
@@JibaroTech Good question - I am wondering the same thing. I have the Tamron and the 85 f1.8 and am wanting to complement those two on the wide end for a light travel kit. Debating between the 24 f1.4 and the 16-35 f.4. I would love Tamron to release a 16-35 ish lens on par with their 28-75. I would buy that in a heart beat!
That is a great combo!
@@JibaroTech I'm in the same situation. Leaning towards the 16-35 because it's just tooooo gooood to give up.
Still can’t decide because of the video autofocus tracking. Would you know if there’s a possibility that through a Sony software update, the focus tracking of the Sony 24mm f/1.4 be improved? Or it’s a hardware issue?
I am not sure. I generally found the 1.4 lenses are slower to focus compared to the 1.8 lenses
Jason Vong would you recommend this focal length for a first purchase or the Batis 18mm? Slowly transitioning to Sony lenses from a canon user.
My canon lens setup is 35mm f/1.4, 16-35 f/4 IS, 85mm f/1.2, all adapted with metabones
If you can only use one camera to take pictures and videos. Between a7iii and a7Riii which one? With what lens? Indoor event with some low light.
Hey I'm picking up a Sony A7iii which lens would you recommend to get first?
I owned both the Batís and the Sony GM at the same time - shot them side by side. Without a doubt the Sony outperformed the Zeiss in all categories, including focusing performance. I sold the Batís and kept the Sony
Thank you so much for the video! It really helped me solidify my buying decision.
Thank you Jason, I am looking for a new wide angle lens. I am deciding between the batis 18mm f2.8 vs the G master 24mm f1.4. Which one would you pick, after using the 24mm now? Thank you in advance.
I would still go for 18mm. Rather have something a little wider if I'm going wide
Jason Vong Thank you for the quick response. Cool looking for a good deal now.
Hey Jason, a quick question. The price of Zeiss batis dropped down to 985 recently. Would you still recommend g master?
Thanks for your time.
Can you compare the Sony 24 gm 1.4 to the Sigma 24mm 1.4 art lens
Hey Jason, I own Sony a7iii, I'm looking for a prime lens which will work for landscape, astro and portraits. I don't wanna own many lenses, would be easier to travel with one/two lenses. Which one could you recommend?
great video, was really exited for it, thanks a lot ! best regards from Brasil :)
I would like to see this comparison (on Sony a6500)
24mm f/1.4 GM vs 24mm f/1.8 ZA
Thanks
I watch all of your videos. You and professor Hines. Funny thing is I am a Canon user not Sony lol. I still enjoy watching you do your thing. Maybe I will go to Sony later on? Ah idk. Keep up the great work Jason. Thanks for entertaining us
how good will be the Sony 24-1.4 for recording a video clip on day light?
I don't know why but, I have a Sony APS-C 35mm 1.8 / A7s, and at 12600 ISO I have a lot of noise, do you know why ?
Changed from s-log 2 to cine 1 but I don't know why I have a lot of noise in low light..
Maybe because I'm making videos in 1080p 60fps ?
I'm not too sure. I have not owned the a7S. Are you experiencing this issue with FF lenses as well? Are you exposing to the right by atleast 2 stops?
Jason Vong No i didn't test with a Full Frame lens and no I didn't try too about exposing like this, I will try all of this because I'm hesitating about having a FF Lens, Black Friday is coming but I want a 1.8 or 1.4 between 16 or 24 mm and I don't know exactly the lens I can take, I want to have a " sharp lens " at least.
If you want to have a idea, I'm a " night man " I love to take photos and videos at night, especially bats.
Hey, Jason thanks for giving such great info on these lenses. I have a dilemma, I can get a brand new 25mm Batis for $850 or a brand new Sony 24mm for $1140, but its back-ordered. Which do you suggest if my primary use is for Vlogging and a wide for video?
Batis so much cleaner
I'm noticing from your side-by-sides, the Zeiss lens seems to have a little warmer tone, most notably with skin tones. Was your footage shot with any differing profiles that would cause this, or would you say that the lenses typically render color this way? BTW, thank you for these videos, they're really well done and helpful!
Great video. I do appreciate your channel. Regarding these two lenses here in the UK the Sony GM is approx twice the price of the Batis and frankly I consider the Batis to be an incredible lens. Chacun à son goût!
Hey Jason, will the "crane plus" handle the a7iii with the 24mm GM 1.4?
Jason which profile did you record on like on the side walk and on the plane
You failed to mention a few things - flare resistance and the digital readout window on the Batis. Nice review otherwise. Are they both weather sealed?
Do you think i need to replace my gmaster 24-70mm f2.8 with this gmaster 24mm f1.4 ??.
Thats a tough one.. I love the Zeiss colors, but for a $100 more I'll take better bokeh, low light, and Sony Pro Support will service the GM I'd have to say..
good point
I have a theory that they’ll keep the 135 GM light also. I believe they’ll stick it in the 100 STF GM’s body and use some XA glass again with that super silent and fast motor.. it’ll be wicked. The separation and compression of that 135 at 1.8 will be disgustingly breathtaking
Had no idea the lens could affect colours so much! Also the autofocus on the Zeiss is perfect. In video the Sony lens is slow at times. Could this be a firmware update? Because it does not seem to be the motor speed in the lenses the difference.
paouvous I love my Zeiss glass that I do use. The motor in that 24 GM is supposed to be really fast but it would depend what you’re shooting it at F stop wise. The 85 1.4 GM is a little slow to focus and that’s because if you’re shooting something at 1.4 it takes a split second to move all that glass and acquire focus on such a short depth of field. I believe the 24 GM has the better newer motors similar to the 400 2.8 for speed. You definitely can’t go wrong with either lens for sure. Just a matter of what you’re looking for.
can you please do a comparision between sony 20mm vs sony 24mm (f1.8)
3:27 when bokeh gets you a bit too "excited."
I think maybe someone below mentioned this but I was just thinking I’d love to see you or Danny do a 24 1.4 GM comparison to the Sigma 16 1.4 APSC since they comparatively have a similar Fov
First video I've seen of yours and I'm a fan! Subbed, and that OLED is DOPE AF
Thanks!! Welcome to the channel!
What do you think about the color difference?
seemed like the batis was a tad warmer on the skintone
I want a 20mm f2. Stabilized ;)
Do you think it's better to shoot photos in a 3:2 aspect ratio or a 16:9 ratio?
I usually shoot 3:2 but if it's RAW, it will be 3:2 anyway regardless if you changed it in camera because that only affects JPEG
@@JasonVong I thought shooting at a 16:9 aspect ratio meant a higher quality photo, is this not right?
Robin Here 🙋♂️ I can see a big difference between both lenses … only the 1 millimeter focal length. I think for that price … zeiss did a really good job. What do you think about the background blurryness ? Is it positive to shot portraits with the Batis 25mm ? Greetings Robin from Germany 🇩🇪
In the UK the price difference between the two lenses is approximately 400 pound so the choice is more difficult the batis is around 979 pound and the 24 mm g master is 1400 pound I managed to get a mint batis for 700 pound and am very pleased with the images I get from it in my opinion fast lenses are over rated 99 percent of lenses have there sweet spot between f4 to f8 and all said and done it's all about image quality
Very informative, those tests kind of showed me everything I needed to know.
yes!!