War on the Sea - U.S. Campaign - 10 - B-17 Skip and Level Bombing
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Let's play the newly released War on the Sea, a WW2 naval combat strategy game. This latest release from Killerfish unleashes the Pacific theater of operations, with carrier battles and surface action, including all that on a campaign fight for Guadalcanal.
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Command ships, submarines and aircraft in the South Pacific during WWII.
1942: The world is at war
The Japanese Empire expands throughout the Pacific where Allied forces attempt to halt its spread. A desperate struggle for control of the Solomon Islands is now underway.
How will you protect your transports as they deliver troops and supplies in the South Pacific? Will you deploy precious aircraft carriers to provide air cover? Do you screen the area with submarines? Or attempt to lure the enemy navy into a decisive surface engagement?
Major Features:
Real time naval combat
Theatrical external-view game play
Play as Allied Forces or Imperial Japan
Over 50 classes of playable ships
Dynamic campaign
Tactical control of aircraft (not a flight simulator)
Fight fires, counter flood compartments and repair ships
Sink ships using realistic buoyancy physics
Historical missions based on actual naval engagements
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the lesson of this episode: let the AI handle the bombing.
Can you do that? Because the amount of micro does look a bit annoying, to be entirely honest xD
Honestly, they should remove the whole player controlled aircraft portion of the game. It makes no sense in a game like this.
@@termitreter6545 yeah, you just set a target for them and press attack. They handle the rest. Seems the AI is FAR more accurate with its bombing than the player could ever be
@@chiefJwally It can be fun if its optional, but in a strategy game I prefer if if the AI can do it.
Good to hear, gonna keep an eye on this game.
@@chiefJwally It's good for what he was trying to do. They don't handle a circling target as well as a human would.
It always cracks me up when you give a sub a weeks worth of patrols, and then save after 6 hours and lose it.
I die a little inside.
Lt. Cmdr. Adrian Dunois, USS Enterprise (CV-6)
We’re readying for another strike. A flight of Wildcats found another convoy, this time with some Japanese fleet Oilers, alongside a IJN Cruiser squadron. They want us to run a mission with the three remaining Members of VT-3. We passed them on our way in, and as soon as we landed, our Dauntlesses were given a quick repair, fueled and armed, and are reading for takeoff now.
11. There were eleven aircraft between the two squadrons. VB-6 alone had twelve aircraft and twenty four pilots and gunners when we left port.
Luckily the Cruiser squadron was not close enough to provide support to the convoy, but they were still escorted by two cruisers and two destroyers. Commander Steele had command, and ordered us to break into our standard attack groups, and marked a target for each group. The Avengers were to go in last in an attempt to minimize casualties. We moved in with Group 1 initially, but broke, dove and released our bombs on target, causing plumes of fire to spit up from the transport. And then I was hit. I felt the plane shudder and the engine die. I radioed to King and told him to take over the flight before focusing my attention on not dying. I was able to hit the water relatively softly, where Leroy and I quickly gathered the meager emergency supplies and climbed on to the inflatable life raft. We were lucky. The Japanese passed right by us.
I’m bleeding. I’m burned and I’m tired. I’ve no idea how long we’ve been out here, but I’m beginning to think nobody’s coming for us. Did this happen to anyone else? To Colin or Maddox or Micheal. I used to wonder what happened to them. Now I just hope it was quick.
I think they know we’re here. I saw an Avenger circling earlier and they know where we went down. I don’t know if they have any rescue craft.
Without Catalinas n the game, rescue prospects are significantly worse..
@@TortugaPower I think there are Catalinas, but in the British nation
@@TortugaPower it’s the only Brit plane
@@TortugaPower Cats would be useful in scouting/rescue missions
I am so into this. I hope you don't mind a suggestion - Focus on upgrading Rennell. It is close enough. Spending the resources on another base just delays you goal
I was thinking the same, being able to lauch strike aircraft from Rennell would be helpful, could also use it as a troop staging area for Guadal
@@jonesy66691 or resupply of ammunition of ships
The Japanese are almost done building their Airfield on Guadalcanal. If you don’t take that island soon you will lose the campaign. I really implore you to refocus efforts to capturing the island.
Tortuga should at least bombard it to help knock it down a bit.
Hi Matthew, how can you tell they are almost done building? Is there an indication or is it an invisible game timer that you are aware of?
Here's what I'm thinking: Let the Japanese build up the airfield up to Lv.2-3, any higher the airfield will be more trouble than its worth, and then invade quickly taking the airfield for yourself saving yourself resources.
I think Japanese need to build a lvl 5 airfield to win
@@TortugaPower The Japanese need a lvl 5 airfield to win, in your previous episode you clicked on the island and it showed it as a lvl 3. It is best to take it now, rather than wait and give them time to gather more resources, that’s being said you did an excellent job this episode denying them supplies to further build up the island.
quick tip, Avengers with rockets are the perfect choice for lightly armored targets like subs, merchants, oilers and destroyers. Its my main go to for hunting subs and destroyers. Plus i think they have a larger range than bombs or torps.
I hate, hate, hate using Rockets in Atlantic fleet.
I know your keen on upping your transport but i think it would be safer to get another carrier to replace the enterprise when she returns for restock
I've been toying with that idea as well. Might do it
Yeah, then he can rotate them out to restock aircraft, and always have some aircover.
Been looking forward to this all day :D
That's the problem with catching up on a series!
@@TortugaPower I have been following several other guys on YT playing this and I think it safe to say you have the best handle on it, they are getting spanked
I was thinking about this game last night. Targeting the freighters is the solution all right Sitarow, freighters have huge holds vulnerable to puncture. They don’t have trained damage control parties, they can’t quickly turn to avoid torpedoes and bombs, they can’t counter flood and become dangerously unstable if a hold floods. They aren’t designed to withstand damage like warships. No redundant watertight compartments. No armoured plating. If the supply is cut to Guadalcanal the garrison will be easy meat for American marines. Go for it !
This is definitely the best War on the Sea let's play on RUclips currently. Keep up the good work!
Check out wolf pack 345, he's doing a great one too but as the Japanese!
When you get the 0 0 0 bug try changing your course with the A and D keys. That usually works for me.
Is a great series. I'm really enjoying watching you play this game.
Just saying Tortuga, if you think from the Japanese side of things. Why would you even go into the Solomon Sea? If you look at the battle of the Coral Sea the Japanese took the northern route. I’d send my patrols up North of “Canal” and have them sweep up there instead of the Solomon.
I don't know if this explains the strategic situation, but; IJN cruiser divisions came out of Rabaul, so they tended to go west to east(When making for the 'Canal). IJN heavies(CV's and BBs) came from Truk in the North. Hence most big battles happened along a north-south axis. That area(North of the island chain) should be patrolled, but probably by subs and PBY's...I think. ;-)
I know I’m a few months late, but in another play through of this I watched, the IJN sent a task force to bombard Port Moresby when you don’t expect it and have no forces there to stop it. While it’s historical to use the northern route, I think the AI does whatever it feels like.
@@rcanterb7126 true.
I'm glad they added patrol zones.
Not as much depth as Victory at Sea Pacific, but much more fluid.
Has anyone else ever thought about the ecological damage the war must have caused? Great video, thanks for the entertainment.
It’s funny you should mention that, the ships long ago dispersed fuel oil from the holes they took at the time, but now the hulks are rusting through the undamaged tanks and steel plating and after all this time are now leaking into the seas from sunken ships and subs of which there are thousands all around the world. Governments don’t want to deal with the problem because of the great expense of defuelling so many wrecks. It’s an ecological disaster. Don’t get me started on the Russians towing their obsolete nuclear subs out to deep water and sinking them because they couldn’t afford to remove the nuclear fuel rods for proper disposal after the Cold War. They are a ticking time bomb.
@@davidhunter1538 Mankind, its own worst enemy.
A came to see some bombs getting dropped. I was not disappointed.
After last night I can say I think the carriers need more aircraft I lost 3 wildcats to a sub in one pass! And no matter how tricky I get with attacks my bombers get hammered everywhere and wildcats get minced by zeros lol Enterprise is forever back and forth for new planes.
Been thinking he needs a sub or two actually in the slot to soften up incoming task groups. Good job getting a SAG moving to intercept ships headed into Guadalcanal. Seems a lot of guys wait till their first strike group is near exhausted to form as large as possible SAG, but it wont arrive in time leaving an opening for convoys to slip in. Great series!
The manual states that load-outs effect aircraft distance. You might want to experiment with different ordinance on your aircraft. Observing the differences between the 4x1000lb and 4x2000lb bomb load-outs on the B-17 would be a good control. Extending the distance of your B-17 strike force would certainly come in handy.
On another note: seeing as the game doesn’t allow patrols to be set in an intuitive manor, it might just be simpler to park your subs in the bottlenecks between islands.
As always, I look forward to the next instalment 🙂
I didn't realize there was a 4x 1000lb loadout for the B-17s. Although I've taken a None config, so I must have seen it...
This is my favorite thing to watch
I agree: B-17s could take more of a pounding. But that was awesome, a near-miss and a couple of strafing runs are all that destroyer needed to be converted into a man made reef! Every enemy ship you sink helps build a new reef, that’s how to think of it! And aww @ the shout-out from mini-Tortuga!
I do wish I had more time to play this game. I really do enjoy it.
17:00 "Kah-Koh"
Quick tip on japanese;
The vowel is the "heart" of each sound.
A,e,I,o,u;
A pronounced as "Ah"
E pronounced as ('Ay') you would pronounce 'A' in the english alphabet or how a stereotyped canadian would go "Eh"
I pronounced as you would pronounce'E' in the english alphabet.
O pronounced as, well, 'O'
U pronounced as "Oo" (similar to the U sound in the word 'blue')
yeah.... taking out Warships IS nice ... but realistically (and maybe in the game too, I don't know) taking out the Logistics REALLY hurts the war effort... no supplies equals DEAD lol... not really funny but you know what I mean
This Japanese AA is weird.
The heavy AA on the merchants looks like a double unshielded 127mm Type 89, not sure if too big to have two or three mounted on merchants, but naval ships had priority for those guns, not sure if the Japanese had spares to lavishly outfit a dozen of merchant ships, or more.
On the other hand, the primary armament of the destroyers is not dual-purpose; yes, the rate of fire was bad (but it's already in the game, game says 12 seconds to reload those, and that's the worse time, with good circumstances and crew you could halve that), the elevation was limited (and the game models that, when you flew the B-17 over the ships, there were no flak bursts, only machinegun tracers), and the gun was slow to aim, but it still would be something to have them be DP, especially at long distances, or against slower planes, or against skip bombing and torpedo attacks.
Anyway, the skip bombing looked very cool.
The skip bombing looked to be much more effective than the level bombing. Which is actually historically correct, if I remember correctly.
IJN Tankers of the Nippon Maru Class had only 1 120mm, like nearly all IJN Freighter! Kamugawa Maru Class freighters where Airplane Transports that transported disasembled airplanes and had NO weapons at all!!Small arms like MGs are not mentioned at all!But i guess they surely had some!
Santa Cruz would be a great place for the US to put a base. In fact, the USN tried to. The malaria was so severe there they abandoned it.
Wonder if putting a sub or two in the slot would help minimize their search area, also near the choke points near Savo island might not be a bad idea.
skip bombing was done by b-25 Mitchell with the c and H being the better variants (a nose fill with 50cal ans the latter with a 75mmcanon to strafe merchant ships to eleminate any aa responce)
the most famous battle was of the bismarck sea
Erm, that was a ballsy tactic with the b-17
The UI definitely needs some more work.
Currently, when you switch from one plane or ship to another, the display shows the settings of the former unit, so if you set plane 10 to fly straight at 5000 yards and then switch to plane 6, it will show as if set to fly at 5000 yards and straight ahead, even if it is actually set to fly at 200 yards and perform a hard port turn - which is _really_ annoying.
To my knowledge skip bombing was first done with a specially designed barrel bomb that had a rig in the bomb bay to spin it so that it bounced right to hit a hydro power dam. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Chastise
I have been going to RUclips all day to see if you have posted this!
Your vids have been mighty helpful in learning how to play the game.
Every time he says Avengers, I say Assemble in my head. I'm really starting to piss myself off LUL
BTW your daily updates are pretty good, its cool to have a new episode everyday
Love this series!
I comment really rarely so make this count:
1st: this series is awesome - its like watching my favorite series from a strategic overhead map
2nd: the developers need to fix the bugs asap. I am ordering as soon as the bugs you mention here and there are vanished.
3rd: could you give us an overview of the different ship classes for comparison? I am somewhat up to date with tanks, planes and weaponry of the modern era but know almost nothing of the ships and airplanes of the second world war, espacially pacific theatre
1. Thank you. 2. Signs are promising. 3. I'm not an expert on these ships, especially the Japanese. I have amateur level knowledge for the U.S. stuff. Check out Drachinifel YT channel for detailed navy lessons.
Another excellent episode Admiral! o7
Great series, I've really enjoyed watching this one!
Tortuga, you've played SH4. Remember when reports kept coming in for IJN convoys running through the slot, and ComSubPac kept asking for any units in the area to respond? Yeah, ya might wanna do that.
I believe you could have spread those 11 attack aircraft even more across all 6 merchant vessels and kill them all. Let's do the classic Tortuga min/max! You showed in the last episode that 2 dive bombers or 1 torpedo bomber can sink a merchant.
Okay, we confirmed near misses cause damage there with the B-17 raid.
And I gotta say the amount of damaged caused to those B-17s by two DDs and a merchant is bullshit.
Seems that even with skip bombing an aft-on run will yield the most damage.
Methinks you'll need to upgrade Rennel Island asap so you can pull your carrier(s) in there and rearm
Commend your target selection for the day exactly right,guess we found an oiler or three !
I remember reading there was not one example of horizontal bombing working in the pacific on ships in motion. Far too easy to evade.
I just completed the tutorial for this game and it says that if an enemy ship is burning and heavily damaged when you leave the battle, there is a chance for it to be scuttled. However, it's only scuttled if it is on fire the moment you leave, so you should try to leave the battle before the fires burn out instead of waiting for them to do the most damage. For example, if you left the battle at 39:00 immediately instead of waiting for the fires to burn, both the merchant and the destroyer could've been scuttled.
For them to scuttle their ships there are 2 condition that has to be met
1. Both dmg and flooding have to be critical for them to have a high chance to scuttle.
2. Either the Dmg or flooding would have to be critical and the other heavy but the scuttling chance here is very low.
@@gotanon8958 I just did the tutorial, I don't know how much flooding or damage is needed (probably heavy of critical), but I do know they need to be on fire.
Why not turn Ronald into a fleet base? this would let you project the fleet power all over the solmonese islands.
Ronald = Renell??
@@magpie6126 yes
I misspelled the island name.
Secure Guadalcanal before they finish the airfield
*Raises hand* I have a question... @26:28 When you're checking the range on the B-17s, there is an option to "Land" AND "RTB". Can you click on another air base and then click "Land" to move aircraft there? I was also wondering if you could send the remaining Enterprise aircraft to new air base on Rennell Island and operate them out of there... Then send the ship back to New Hebridies for re-constitution of the air group...?
Also, when attacking with dive bombers, you have been very successful. Why not use two-plane formations and thus double the targets you can hit?
Finally... You have B-17s flying straight, level, and SLOW at 3,500 feet... And you don't think they could be hit easily? Maybe I'm reading a little too much of my history and study into this, but they're designed for high-level bombing. Just like dive bombers start their runs at 10,000 feet. Does the game not work that way? Just trying to figure out how the game mechanics work versus reality.
I am afraid not, as far as the 'flying odd from carriers' idea is concerned... aircraft have a "home" and can only land at that designated position. If this was not the case, the infinite supply of aircraft from islands would also be able to replenish your CVs... but the game has to work somehow, even if it's not so historically or practically accurate
@@James_Nicholls Fair point, thanks.
Though in reality aircraft had to be ferried across the Pacific on carriers (or boxed up on transports), or the larger ones flew down the west coast of South America and then crossed. The game mechanic could take that into account.
Enjoyed the video, been waiting all day for it. In a future episode could you pull up the screen that lets you see what ships you lost/sank? I'm just curious is all. Also, will we see a battleship at all this series?
Sure, easy to do. Not next episode, maybe the one after.
About resupplying carrier with planes - have you tried to fly then near the carrier and click "land" instead of RTB? One of patches should've also fixed a bug related to that.
Is it not possible to regroup the ships at sea?
If it is, I would send the Farragut and the Selfridge home with the Enterprise and assign the Fletcher and the Radford to asw.
It is possible, and that is a great idea!
Forgive me if I missed this - but do you have dedicated recon plans like Hudsons for the Australians and PBYs?
There are a few Ships with recon planes on it. I wonder, why he never use them...
36:15 - as soon as the rest of an island's flight of aircraft return to base (if any of them do) all aircraft are immediately replenished. If none return, they are replenished immediately. Therefore, you could say that using an island's leftover aircraft after dropping their payload as kamikaze-style ramming aircraft is more efficient than ordering them to RTB.
(Edit for clarity)
But they take supplies to replenish, don't they?
@@pelayopar nope.
Thanks for the info, James. So far I have decided not to use this ... exploit, I'll call it, though not maliciously (I exploit other things). I may change my mind in order to combat some of the AI cheats (like endless waves) if need be. Cheers.
Climbing might not reduce speed, but does staying low to the water help avoid AA until you're out of it? Lower to the water would result in less AA guns being able to target you.
That being said.. I know I'm about to contradict what I said in the previous video.. but B17's need buffs...
Yeah I dont think its possible for a transport to shoot down a B17 even if they got really lucky..
@@David-ys4ud Yea, with the amount of damage B-17's took from Flak and fighters and still made it back in the Europe theatre, no way a transport is going to knock out a B-17..
Torg:
Make your life easy mon.
Read or listen to....
US Naval History & Heritage Command's PDFs
Tactics & Strat.
HIstorically, trying to hit a destroyer from a B-17 using high altitude level bombing was almost impossible*. That why the USN started using skip bombing in 1943... which was VERY effective.
Although they used 500 pound general purpose bombs with a short time delay fuse - not 2,000 pounders.
*I can only think of 2 times it worked. And on one of them the destroyer wasn't moving because it was picking up survivors and thought the B-17 had no chance to hit.
Hi Arthur. Did bombers also use skip bombing techniques against smaller ships such as destroyers?
@@TortugaPower Yes. Once 1943 rolled around it was the preferred method. It allowed even B-17s and B-24s to be VERY DANGEROUS against any ship - even if they could maneuver at high speed. In Hara's book, "Japanese Destroyer Captain", he described the time his ship came under skip bombing attack. He improvised and turned the ship so it headed directly towards the bomber. Giving the bomber a narrower target AND allowing his AA gunners to put more guns in action. The bomb missed and his radio operator said he heard the bomber crew say they were going to ditch.
Can b-17 actually fly as slow as 100 mph?
Oh, man. You'd think a B17 could take a little more punishment than that.
A plane being smacked by large caliber AA (40mm+) tend to find that flying... is quite challenging when you suddenly lose a part of your flight control surface or when one of your engine turns into a fireball and you suddenly turned from 4 engine bomber... into a 3 or 2 engine plane in an instant...
B-17 and any other aircraft... might find themselves regain control some time after the initial sudden shock (after the unfortunate event when the AA shell tear a chunk of your plane apart)
But if you start with virtually no altitude... then you are gonna end up splashing if not cratering on the ground before you get any chance of doing anything.
B-17 is a heavy bomber at the end of the day, they were not really designed to fly low and close to the ground or sea that well (they are a big plane and a HUGE target after all, making them a pretty inviting target for the large caliber AA guns).
B-17 might be relatively durable against 7.7mm MG or 20 or 30mm autocannons from fighters....
Getting smacked by 40mm+ or worse 88mm AA guns though? You are going down if the plane took a direct hit that can just blew the wing spar (or sometimes the whole wing section) off the plane.
B-25 and other medium bombers, or strike aircraft, fighter bombers, etc which are smaller, faster, and more agile... would be more suited for that kind of low flight than B-17...
Is this a kinda follow up game of victory at sea?
Yes they are similar games, but slightly different scope (this is Guadalcanal, VaSP is full Pacific).
hi i am the 50th person to watch
love the vids btw!
"I should see if Avengers' range changes with the loadout". Port Moresby ready to launch - "has TBF's available, yet send out F4F's" - SMH.
general game Question:
what do you get for upgrading ports?
I think is well understood that the higher the airbase level is the more/bigger aircraft you get. But all i know is that a level.5 port lets you "buy" ships, or is there any other perks for the lower level ports?
I think you need a certain port level to repair/rearm ships. Lvl 2-3? would let the Enterprise rearm way closer to the front.
(From what I gathered in the comments.)
i wonder if the AI is intellgent enought o change to night operations for supplying the islands
I don't think Wildcat strafing is all that useful, the reason the Zeros could hurt your DDs is probably because they have a pair of 20mm guns
Why don't you park some submarines in the slot? It seems the IJN keeps sending ships down there. Two or three subs will saturate the area.
Here's what I'm thinking, you should've let the oilers pass. Why? So they can build up the airfield. Why? So you can invade and take the island without needing to use up a lot of valuable resources. The purely cargo transports? They have to go, although saying that they could be carrying supplies to build the airfield. I learn more about this game every day.
Anyway, on to what I actually wanted to say:
The game needs:
-The Type A Japanese submarines and their variants, Sargo class, Salmon class, Porpoise class, and S-boats (can I say the US subs have abysmal test depth?)
-Ports have PT boats that increase in number as it is upgraded
-Lost aircraft should have a time penalty to replace, example: it will take 2 days for the 3 lost wildcats to be replaced.
-Wasp and Lexington class carriers are musts.
-Nagato class BB instead of Yamato b/c they actually participate in the campaign (albeit in a aircraft carrier battle).
-I want APDs and more variety of merchant ships with different cost and stats.
-Maybe add repair ships like USS Vestal? or Ammunition ships for resupply (C2s)?
Yamato just SHOULDN perform bombarding missions vs airfields, she just does not had HE shells IRL at all
@@stallfighter Did she have the specialized bombarding shells though? Yamato being in the campaign is a bit OP and unrealistic because they spent their time up at Truk the entire time. Plus, to add insult to injury, Yamato was torpedoed by USS Skate in late '43.
@@adamtruong1759 anti-air incendiary "hive shells". As far as I know actual HE wasnt issued.
It isnt unique situation though, Nelsons also was out of HE untill 1943
Alright.
One of the historical Japanese missions was for the Japanese ships to spray their AA rounds at Henderson, since they are incendiary and create shrapnel, and this was considered effective against the kind of stuff you'd find at an airfield (aviation fuel, planes, not a lot of armorerd shelter).
So I suppose the Yamato could be considered to use her secondaries in an attack?
The game is fun, but how do you get more Oil & engineers. I got one run with 5 Cargos & 2 Oilers and that was it... no more upgrades. I also can't seem to air attack ports? I flew the B-17s to Guadalcanal and it was nothing but beach. What am I doing wrong?? :(
Why don’t you send a small transport fleet up to the island to the north east of your starting base?
Just enough to claim the island and no more.
Because claiming islands doesn't give you command points.
love your videos keep it up :)
Wish the b17s can attack airfields.
Love the content but please please PLEASE...If you are using b-17’s in level bombing use them as intended...High high HIIIIIIGH altitude...Yes accuracy will be less but the strength of the heavy bombers was concentration of numbers and also extreme altitude to make them virtually untouchable with AA.
Even the U.S. learned not to employ B-17s in high altitude bombing roles against ships. Skip bombing is a real thing, invented after abysmal success against enemy shipping at altitude.
I'm surprised they don't have PBY's available
Yeah, a shame.
Can you do kamikaze strikes on this game?
Well you can use your aircraft to ram, which can set fires and/or damage compartments, but not so much pack an aircraft full of explosives... besides, the Japanese weren't that desperate until much later in the war, after operation watchtower.
Maybe you can name the Taskforces after suggestions in the comments? It would help with the strategic side of things, so it is less of "this destroyer group" and more specific. If you would do that, I would have my first suggestion: name the taskforce with the two destroyers "The Bathtub Hunters".
But I must admit it might break the immersion if the suggested names are as silly as my suggestion
Ref the US spotting reports. Are they accurate? That is, if the plane reports 3 oilers are they REALLY 3 oilers or could they be 1 oiler and 2 light cruisers?
Sadly, yes they are accurate. That would be great if there was more error involved.
Why do you keep trying to strafe deck armor with .50cal mgs
I don't know how much the game simulates real life. We learned in the real Battle of Midway how bad B17s are vs ships. I would have used the B17s on the airbase
Game is horribly unrealistic when it comes to bombing accuracy. As we've seen =)
@@TortugaPower and horribly unrealistic to damage modeling.
It's fun to see that level bombing is more accurate than MG fire from fighters.
my vals keep crashing in the water after a dive bombing rune pls help?
Merchant ship AA was not effective because they didn't have that many guns.
And fire control systems.
Do your subs have aircraft?
No, but the Japanese ones have floatplanes
killing transports instead of killing the more important and limited heavy cruisers is a mistake in my opinion
your surface fleet and subs could do that even wildcats could be used for that role
killing transports means bases dont upgrade
@@genegross2252
fighters and subs could take transports also there are far less warships they can get
for example they can only get two Furutaka
also once the heavy units are gone you could do it with the surface fleet not to mention they give you more points to buy more units
As in-game experience would tell you, it is exceedingly difficult to sink or even do more than light damage to a merchant with a fighter, and submarine warfare is probably the hardest aspect of the game...
After seeing all your troubles with the UI, I can say I'm not going to get this game
Subs are so annoying. Constant attacks. i cant get no supplies for the aub attacks
IMHO I think you are misinterpreting the AA effects, it only seems like the cargo ships have more AA because as you fly near/over them you are getting into the warships Medium & long range AA zones because you are further from them.
Also........10 episodes in & now you are only figuring out the value of attacking Cargo ships *smh
Troops don't get landed & resupplied, port facilities & Airfields don't get upgraded, warships don't get resupplied & refueled without them.
Cargo ships & Tankers should have been you number 1 priority from the beginning.
Send subs to the slot Oh Man!