WHY does EVERYONE Hate TRAXXAS?
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- In this episode of 10th Scale Garage, we take a look at the brand that everyone loves to hate, Traxxas. We explore the history of firsts, from the bandit and the Nitro Hawk, all the way up to the current controversy of the Sledge and Arrma Kraton. Are they really hobby grade? Are they only meant for beginners? What's with all the upgrade parts? Are they worth your money? We even tale a look at their boats like the Spartan and M41 widebody. Heck, we even touch on their shortly lived Drone, the Aton. Am I wrong about Traxxas? Do they deserve their reputation? Let me know!
The problem is people feel like they have to pick a side or team, they all have good and bad models. Good and bad aspects from all brands. Just buy what makes you happy and you like 👍
For me you don't have to stick to one brand if you want a rc car go ahead and buy it
100%.
No, not so much in my book, trax ass is just a garbage company.
They flood the market with crap, (garbage electronics, brittle plastics, gimick over substance)
They are as proprietory as they can be, they are sue happy. (They own the word MAXX? I think not.)
There cars are good enough to move for a battery, but I've never seen one win anything but drag racing one time.
Garbage company selling mediocre junk.
That's why I won't even think about a trax ass.
This is very true. I would never stick to one brand, why limit yourself there is so many options out there. As you said rc is all about having fun, buy whatever puts a big smile on your face. As others have said every brand have great products and bad ones.
Buy them all!! That’s my motto
I say: Buy whatever brand makes YOU the happiest. I own several of each brand: Arrma, Traxxas, Redcat, Tamiya, & Kyosho to name a few, and I even own some ZD Racing RCs; ALL of them put miles of smiles on my face for different reasons and I love, break, and repair all my cars. They ALL make great cars, and they ALL make some junk vehicles. Go with whatever YOU can afford and makes YOU happy, but don't listen to the haters. All of that said.... When you're the big boy at the top, everyone tries to knock you down to be the new king.
The only reason I don't like them is because they are an incredibly predatory company. The are litigious as F.
"if i had a dolor every time a traxxas servo broke i would have enough money to fix my arrmas" how to provoke two different fanboys at once
If I had a dollar for every woman who didn’t want me, I’d soon have every woman.
Underrated comment 😂
Awesome...
I am a fan of Traxxas, but I wholeheartedly agree with the fact that Traxxas servos are sh*t. The stock 2056 and 2075 that comes in most of their models is a ticking time bomb, and even their actually good servos are far too expensive for what you get. Their 600 oz-in brushless servo is $160 when you could get a Perfect Pass Monster Servo with $900 oz-in of torque for $40 cheaper
Too bad I have no dolors
My problem with Traxxas is the whole thing about the lawsuits against other brands like HPI and Arrma. They were just trying to bankrupt their competitors rather than just making better products and becoming the top brand in a fair way. They are just big bullies in the industry and I won't buy their products for that reason. Having said that I do still have a Slash that I bought before I knew what they were like but it's had so many mods that it's only about 30% Traxxas now anyway!
That's not true if the other companies would just build their own shit and stop copying what Traxxas has developed
Traxxas is in top because of their customers support and part support and not discontinuing products in 2 months making models obsolete
@@getmoney12358 Well what Traxxas did was to put patents on designs like inboard shocks that had been around for years before Traxxas did it but not patented by anyone. Traxxas then sued other companies for using this design even though they themselves had not invented it. They did this for a load of RC car features that had been around for years but nobody had thought to patent. They are just using their power as a big company to try to ruin the opposition financially. I will never forgive them for bankrupting HPI.
@@PeteWylieRC exactly right, they almost bankrupt arrma too , I almost got stuck with rcs I couldn't get parts for after just getting back into the hobby. I think they took HPI out over the waterproof receiver box. Lol . Thing that's messed up is they copied team associated rc10 , which besides the jxr2 was only race buggy . It was called bullet
@@paulclancy2404 Yeah who'd have thought about putting the receiver in a waterproof box? Oh yeah, everyone!
"Just shove your doodle into the dingus, press the button and go! "
Pure gold 🤣🤣
I know Traxxas has done the lawsuit stuff and all that, but to me the most onerous thing is their requiring hobbyshops to have "Traxxas-Only" stores if they sell stuff online too. Apparently Traxxas doesn't like it if people compete with their own online sales, so if hobbyshops sell more than a certain amount and don't have a Traxxas-only store, Traxxas will stop giving them stuff with their holdbacks or whatever for better pricing. As a result, the closest hobby shop to my house is Traxxas-only. I went in there to see if I could get a traxxas to EC5 adapter and they said, "well, we're not allowed to sell those here, you'd have to go to our other location. However, you can pay me 5 dollars and I will go solder one together from 'repair parts' in the back."
Ha!! Well that just make a good opportunity for someone else in that neighborhood to open up another hobby shop.
Just like Kev Talbot says.....Whatever car puts the biggest smile on your face , is the correct one for ya.
My X-Maxx and TRX4/TRX6 rigs are some of my favorites! Like them or hate them they have helped grow the RC world into what it is today.
Yeah the steering servo in the xmaxx made me a fan for life too!!
That would be Tamiya… Traxxas is the Toys R Us of RC.
Lmao! 😂@@RingLeaderElon
Started in my late 40's in the hobby and was directed to a 2wd Slash and never regretted it. Pretty rugged and fairly customizable and upgradable easily. I have a TA RC10B4.2 and have put some Traxxas parts on it because I like them better than the TA parts. IDK I like being able to get parts easily and are available. Plus not knowing much from the get go it was very user friendly and I changed the electronics to a more universal as I went along
I agree with that.
I have a 2wd slash that I dump over a grand into. Now it’s a no prep drag car. Go figure.
33 years in the hobby. Wrote for a major publication, hosted multiple events, ran a hobby shop owned nearly every single brand out there.
I've seen and watched the evolution of traxxas since the fiero and trx10 bullet. I've raced competitive with the blue Eagle ls2, the trx 1, and srt. I've raced a slash, I've beat the daylights out of nearly every single model.
Availability of parts is a huge attraction, as is the 30 model memory with the tqi.
There's good and bad in everything, in every hobby. Traxxas outweighs the bad with good by a huge margin. Huge.
Super true, I feel like this guy is just rambling about only the bad things. I own a traxxas vehicle and really enjoy it.
It’s not really hard to get parts for anything made today with the internet. I live in Portland Oregon we have Tammie’s hobbies a huge hobby shop. I wouldn’t go there for parts. It’s all on the web with the best prices, free shipping delivered to your doorstep in 4-5 days. “Parts availability” doesn’t go that far when you can get anything on the web. Traxxas is for kids since they left racing in 94-95 when they couldn’t beat associated and losi. Traxxas are plastic hobby grade toys. Nothing bad about that. They’re just not a racing brand so racing guys will speak poorly of them. Traxxas has their place and that’s a great place, rtr easy entry and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Your full of crap
Lmao nah it’s all plastic junk.
Arrma products are always on backorder it seems lol. Always waiting months of stupid things. Like right now, the steering servo is on backorder for the 1/18 grom. Like come on ...
I totally agree with you on almost all these points. The Nero story is important to the industry. We were all robbed on that one
A friend of mine bought a Nero. First time I looked at it I knew there would be lawsuits from Big T. Nice truck though
Traxxas hurt the hobby so bad with their lawsuits. Had to get rid of my hpi stuff. Their self righting system guarantees you will be replacing gears. What ever makes one happy.
Traxxas just doesn't do it for me.
Very cool channel you have created.
@@rcjunkie260 I agree on both points bro. The lawsuits hurt everyone especially us enthusiasts . And the self righting option is a great way to order new drivetrain parts
@@norcalrc I just read a article on redit. Traxxass sued HBO over the max in HBO Max. They also sued maclaren over the name of their 2s esc MMax. Traxxas is a bunch of Traxxas Texas business bullies are trying to destroy all competition so their is only traxxas. And don't forget they also sued Tamya, Hobbieco and others.
@@norcalrc I still don't understand why one can't walk over to the flipped rc and turn it over. Too far don't go that far, maybe don't drive so hard at a distance? This might hurt some feelings learn how to drive your rc and keep the wheels down!(sorry)I really enjoyed my hpi blitz flux one tough and fast good handling truck. Until parts dissapeared and the ones I could find 2 to 3 times the price.
I just got back into the RC world after being out of it for over 20 yrs. I started in my teens back in the 80s when you had to build them yourself. I had the Super Champ ( had a rear mono shock and would always rollover) , grasshopper, Blackfoot, Clod Buster ( I loved this 4wd & 4ws ). Fast forward to this yr, I bought a 4x4 Rustler VXL in Feb and a Maxx V2 in May. I can not believe the difference and how far they have came. My Rustler is fun and fast as hell but I usually brake something every time I take it out. The Maxx on the other hand, I literally beat the shit out of it, like jump into trees at 55mph, off the roof of the house, head ons with other RC cars and just cosmetic stuff. The only thing I did crack on the Maxx was a front bulk head when the tire bead came off the rim and I slammed into a box filled with concrete. Surprisingly it still ran, it was just making a rubbing grinding noise. I do use other 4s batteries then Traxxas and I do charge them with my Traxxas charger and it still runs great and even longer run time. My RC cars from back in the day would never be able to handle what the RC cars of today can.
I'd say a big reason people dislike Traxxas is them suing other RC companies like HPI and arrma (particularly when it's over patents that shouldn't have been granted to traxxas in the first place). It became obvious that traxxas didn't want to compete but instead use their size to muscle the competition out of the room.
If you've been in the hobby for a while you can see the results of their actions by the lack of brand diversity you see at your local hobby shop, and compare it to how it was around 10 years ago.
And in some cases it's directly impacted people who own cars made by the companies who got sued. I mean, I'm not going to say that the reason I can't easily get parts for my HPI car is all traxxas fault (HPI had their own issues before then), but they sure didn't help.
Perfectly explained. I have both Traxxas and Arrma with a few others, they all have their own character and every time I use them I have the biggest grin on my face, it’s pure enjoyment.
You have a Wonderful channel, straight talking no nonsense say it how it is approach, much appreciated.
Beautifully said and I completely agree. Whatever makes anyone smile and enjoy this or any hobby is the only thing that matters. Each unto their own.
I think the reason Traxxas has a bad name is because they have a long history. In the past especially with their nitro vehicles they made them to very substandard standards. And then they would nickel and dime you to death to get the parts fixed. Or they were put in junk parts in the vehicle knowing that you have to go out and buy the upgraded parts or go broke buying the same parts over and over and over and over again. And then also they didn’t perform well or anything. They didn’t have the best bashers they didn’t have racers that were worth a darn. That said I think the newest generation of Traxxas are the best They have ever been.
Hands down, some of the best words ever spoken on the subject.. and the summary was spit polish dead on... if you love it, it's right.. even when it's wrong, lol.. you gotta new sub and I'm really looking forward to going through your content!! Thank you brother!! Keep it coming!!
Love my xmaxx, love my limitless, love my udr, love my Lmt sod, love my kraton,outcast,notorious. Absolutely love my infraction and felony. And my 1/10 touring racer.About to get the sledge. So yeh I don’t care what it is as long as I can have fun with it.
I tend to agree with most everything said, but...... I have had zero luck with traxxas brushless systems, several cars that overheat within minutes. I've tried running 2s instead of 3s, didn't help. Fans didn't help. All of my traxxas cars have hobbywing electronics now.
I love my traxxas, the tenth scale 4x4 cars (slash stampede etc) are basically rc car lego. So many interchageable parts.
Agreed
I work at a hobby store and our biggest sellers are Traxxas and Arrma. Both brands have their strengths and both brands have their weaknesses. In the end, it comes down to who YOU are and what you want your rc to do.
Great video. I only have traxxas but only been in hobby for 3 years. I am currently saving for an Infraction. Ive seen pros and cons on all brands. Just like ford and chevy. Just get what makes you happy. Great video. 👊👊
I’ve been wanting a slash for the longest time, I finally got one. Yeah there’s the senton and other trucks but the slash was the first I saw. And I love it. I’m very happy I got it, and I see there’s a lot of aftermarket parts so that’s a big part of why I wanted it. I do agree about the batteries, I haven’t upgraded the battery yet because I know when I go brushless im gonna use a different connector. Also (at least with my car) the charger that was included was a 12v car plug which I still think is odd. Thankfully my friend gave me a stampede along with a aftermarket house plug charger
I’m with you. I either change the plugs or run adapters.
The Slash us a great rig. I just keep my Traxxas rigs the same. It's easier for me. Happy Rcing!
The car plug upset me when I bought my 2wd slash but luckily I had bought a prophet charger and extra battery because I knew I wanted to run it a lot and I swapped from the stock receiver to a rc4gs to get the full capability of it
Just do what Kevin Talbot does and change the battery plugs...
Most of my fleet is Traxxas and I've gotten used to the hate that's out here haha. I've had a few Arrma vehicles (3s Granite, 3s Typhon, 3s Vorteks and TLR Tuned Typhon) and most of that experience hasn't been great. What I appreciate the most about Traxxas is something you already mentioned and it's the parts support. Also, as you mentioned, I'm not one who is big into tinkering so my vehicles are going to stay mostly stock. Proprietary electronics do piss me off a bit though lol
I too have different brands of rcs..sixteenth in total. I just keep my Traxxas electronics Traxxas but upgrade with Tekno, RPM ect. Happy Rcing!
I consider “Walmart brand” one of the 16 or so brands I have as well
I gotta agree with you. I've never had a traxxas, or an arrma. They are the most expensive rc's on the market, typically, and I'm not rich enough for that.
But I do love my rc's. Simply because I use and test them, they break, I figure out why, I upgrade or optimize that fault in some way, and then I test again.
Eventually, you end up with an rc rig that is dialed in for what you do with it. I wanted a 4s beast. I looked at my options. I saw the price tags. I cringed a bit. But then I found a smaller company, still US based (not for any reason other than I am in the US, so I want parts that will be here sooner rather than later), and bought their 4s rig.
Now I paid about 60% of the cost of the traxxas and arrma alternatives. I then spent the other 40% of that cost on hop-ups and upgrades, spares, batteries, and other doodads.
I'm grateful I did that, because I'm getting a head start on the experience of doing all this work to my rig. I've dialed it in so much better than it was when I got it, and still have a few parts left to install and upgrade.
That is why I chose the brand I went with for my 4s beast, and, for the record, my price comparisons were for 3s traxxas and 3s arrma options.
I do not regret it.
So dont insult blindly, dont make blanket statements about who is superior and who just sucks, because at the end of the day, if you work on your own rigs, it doesn't actually matter what brands you are using. It matters that you did the work to optimize your own machine, and it will perform better than the RTR thing you bought in the beginning.
Thanks for this video. I know I'm late to this video party, but because of this video, I subscribed. Keep up the objective work!!
The Keaton 4S is my favorite 4S Basher. The only think I’ve replaced on mine is a servo, shock and front A-Arm. Just normal stuff.
As far as a product line, I think there are some good models, I have a UDR that I'm pretty happy with. But as a company, it's chock full of the same proprietary, litigious, corporate bullshit as Horizon Hobby (which is killing many legendary brands all on it's own)
But honestly, social media has just killed most of the joy right out of this hobby, and I'm a 38 year veteran. Marketing, sales, promotion, is all done on RUclips, Facebook, or Instagram, and it 's all about the clicks, and everybody is a fucking expert. Traxxas fans are particularly toxic online, and I'm not sure why, could be because most of them have never built a kit, or don't have a clue how to fix their own crap
I mostly see toxic traxxas haters ironically and level of skill is irrelevant to me as we all had to learn it, both sound like elitism which I expect from hipsters/fanboys. I prefer traxxas due to their selection and creativity with design and features but I have never felt the need to bash other brands and find such things childish.
I own all traxxas I do all the work on all my cars I don’t hate on other brands I just prefer traxxas but I would love to get some other brands to try out
Yeah....sounds like your the problem.
@@DEENRC 😂
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Just to set the record straight, a lot of Traxxas's "creative" designs and features are actually highly derivative of other manufacturers' models. Cantilever suspension and telescoping driveshafts debuted on the Schumacher Top Cat, the 3-gear transmission used on all of Traxxas's 2WD models is literally the "Stealth" gearbox from the RC10, o-ring sealed radio boxes have been a staple in the boat scene, on-board starting for Nitro models actually first appeared on the OFNA-Hong Nor Ultra MBX line, and even SCTs in the very style of the Slash originally debuted with the Duratrax Nitro Demon, but didn't catch on at the time due to the price, complexity and lackluster reliability of Duratrax's Axis platform (which the Nitro Demon was based on)
Man is a closet magic player
I own all different brands of RC’s but i absolutely love my maxx v2.Easy to fix parts easy to find and tough as nails.
For me a beginner in the RC i bought a Hoss. It was used by a young 14yo kid. Never maintained. I expected it to have issues but kinda wanted it to, so I could learn to wrench on it. It's been over a year now and I've been able to upgrade and replace everything that needed to be to keep the truck running smooth. Although I understand the hate for the "brand" it seems to be a good truck. Reliable, fun, and tuff. Buy what makes you smile. Great vid.
Nice! Thanks for watching
Well said. I have 5 different crawler brands in the stable. I like them all. But I’ve got to say, if I had to only keep one, it would be the Traxxas. It’s not the best but it certainly is the most dependable and best “all around/overall” truck.
My TRX4 has never broken. My other cars break all the time.
People who hate on Traxxas just wants to be like everyone else that hates on Traxxas
I stay away from Traxxas just due to their patent lawsuits. Seems they'd rather sue then provide the better product. Even set up their HQ where patent lawsuits usually win, even when they don't seem like they should. However, their entry level stuff and part support is good and is going to help get more people into the hobby. That's really great. Though the proprietary stuff (batteries, chargers etc.) that you mentioned then tend to keep the new people going back to the same brand. Why try another brand when you have to buy a diff battery/charger....
First "hobby grade" RC I bought was a Helion. The entire brand is now gone due to a Traxxas lawsuit which seemed to be BS. Ended up getting some Arrma's since there were no more parts for the Helion and I didn't want to support the "Umbrella Corp" of the RC world by buying a Traxxas.
Now I have 0 RC's. Had just one friend that I could go bash with and he got out of the hobby. Not nearly as much fun on your own. Might get something again soon but probably going to stick with Arrma, Losi, Team Associated (Horizon Hobby) brands. The part support of Traxxas is intriguing but the lawsuits are hurting the hobby so I won't support them.
I had a big gap in my RC days from the early 90’s to around 2001. Saw a guy running a RC monster truck across a parking lot and the damn thing shifted gears! So, I had to go see. Obviously, it was a T-max and I was hooked again.
I used to frown upon RTR style RC. If you couldn’t build it, you didn’t deserve to play.
However, I think it’s great Traxxas has gotten so many people into the hobby.
Great video,
I love my Traxxas Aton drones. The electronic parts for it seems non existent.
Traxxas no longer carries the motherboards, GPS modules, etc..
In my experience the Slash has been the most fun car I have had. I've raced an RC10 and Ultima and owned a dozen other models, but the Slash is the most fun and most versatile...and parts support is FAR better than any other brand !!.. including the aftermarket. True, they really aren't for racing, except spec racing -- like Slash spec racing, which is a ball - but for everything else they are great.
Everyone doesn't hate Traxxas. They may in your world but their numbers tell another story so..............................
Traxxas is trash, and yes thay sell well but also look how many people are trying to sell them after thay buy them.
@booost420 yes true, I bought one a long time ago and never again.
There is just one thing i dont like about traxxas. Their mediocre quality at the same time expensive electronics, with stupid connectors. Other than that, i love what they do.
The parts supply is what draws me to traxxas I have a hpi baja 5b that has absolutely pissed me off that the company has gone down hill and I have a $2000 rc I can't use because of parts supply issuse and now only can pay huge retail for parts because of there rarity so Im going back to traxxas
The reason HPI went downhill is because you guessed it, Traxxas sued them and bankrupt them. Same they sued Arrma because the horizontal shock system, and both times they won and bankrupt company's. That's also the reason I stick with HPI and Arrma because they are great vehicles, and I rather not bring my money towards a company that's trying to destroy other brands that I love.
@@feki122 guess that traxxas sueing the other brands worked for them because its has forced me back to traxxas brand but I see hpi is coming back finally they have new rc's available again and some baja parts are back
Imo theres no value for what you pay for a traxxas cars in the basher department. Value for money is what a lot people prioritize. Then theres durability. Here in where i live my hobbyshop has almost any arrma part i need. Other brands are catching up in part support. For me what was the nail in the coffin was traxxas trying to stop competition with lawsuits. They even sued HPO max a tv channel like what. 90% of their cars are overpriced stuff that Have been recycled for decades.
No value? I still have a rustler 12t that I've done nothing with except bash, and let my young kids bash, for over 5 years now. Never changed any of the electronics, and have only ever had to change arms. 189, and came RTR. I've never came across any value in the rc market like that.
I agree with the lawsuit stuff, but every company has done that except Chinese knock offs. So there isn't much you can say on the subject.
As far as recycled stuff, ever hear the saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it"?
It's like McDonald's. A #1 has always been a #1, made the same way for decades, people know what they are getting, no questions.
@@dwaynewilliams3077 tell me where is the value in a entry 3s truck Like the slash for 430$ for the 4wd and The 2wd is 349.99$?
The “ultimate is 549$ who still needs upgrades if you want to abuse it
@@dwaynewilliams3077 like i said im a basher the value for money in the bashing scene with traxxas is non existent. They want you to pay it feels like 30% more than the competition and you get in a lot of cases less for ur bucks. There might be some value on the brushed trucks because they are slower and harder to break things because of it. Perfect for a little kid but for an adult who wants to send its rc full speed out of ramps its a big No
@@EXTREMERC416 and I was talking about their brushed models. They are perfect entry level bashers. That is why I was very specific on what model I was talking about.
Now if you wanna step up to brushless, arrma and traxxas are pretty well tied, and I honestly don't think anyone has anything on either, be it ecx, redcat, etc...
Maybe the mt10 might be up their with em but that's about it.
Traxxas fan boy here!!! Just , over 20 cars ,, been in for 10 years now, love market places,, less than $2000 them all of them!! .
Imagine loving a brand that wants to monopolize everything the hard way…
Yep. You nailed it. 💯 I've spent many moons pondering such thoughts, grasping for the truth of questions i havent yet obtained answers to. You have relieved me of this mental anguish. 😌 keep up the good work guys 👏
I have Kyosho, Arrma, Traxxas, Latrax, Haiboxing, Wltoys, Dromida and HPI racing. They all offer something I like. For me it's not about brand loyalty but rather how much fun I can have.
I am glad you made this video....set the record straight!!! as long as you are having fun that is all that counts!!! no matter what brand that you drive!!! you make your own story!!!
If traxxas was a bit more “affordable” they would get so much less hate. I’m an old school tamiya and kyosho guy but traxxas has always had a place in my heart since my first revo. Traxxas makes some awesome vehicles especially for people that want an RTR thats fairly reliable easy to use and has many aftermarket parts
This is a change of pace from the regular content but I enjoyed it, it seems like you saw a tweet or post on social media and thought “$&@? This I’m sick of the BS time to set the record strait” haha great video 😄👍🏻
Bought a 2nd hand Traxxas Slash for my son to learn to race. In our second year of racing with myself racing the adult class using the same truck, Its had some mods since I got it and a gradual rebuild front to rear over the time. Best fun we have together and it doesn't matter what brand car you have, they all look the same on their roof.
I always felt like Traxxas is an amazing brand to get people into the hobby, then they can go from there and try and buy other brands .
Totally.
Agreed on all points. My traxxas crawlers compared to other brands, I can say the quality is tops. The extra money I spent is money well spent. I have had no issues with them
Dependable, part availability and customer service. Traxxas nailed it.
While I do love all my RC's, iIf I had to keep just one from the many I have, Traxxas would be the one.
I’ve been in and out of the hobby since 1984 and it will always have a place in my heart even if I just assemble and tinker with them nowadays. To me Traxxas was always the brand that tried to get more kids interested in the rc hobby by having vehicles available already assembled. I’ve always assembled kits and painted lexan bodies so to me anything else would have been more for the youngish market.
In Southern California there was a hobby model franchise chain called Hobby Shack and that’s when I had the chance to see Traxxas rc buggies and trucks in person. It was fully assembled so that intrigued me. Upon further inspection it looked more toy grade to me.
I never had any experience with them but I acknowledge companies like Traxxas for getting kids more involved In the hobby.
I've been in this hobby for the last 30 years. I have almost 300 cars in my collection, of almost every single brand but not a single Traxxas. Why? My TRX4 electronics went out the first week, my UDR gave me plenty of problems with the axles the gears and the arms, my Slash broke something every single time I used it and almost the same with the rest of the Traxxas cars I had, So I decided to forget about the brand, especially after the rude and discourteous treatment by the customer service, who also treated me like a fool. I don't hate Traxxas, but I can't stand their business model, their lies and their way of stealing money. Super cheap and bad electronics, plastics, old designs and how they're trying to kill smaller but much better brands are not for me.
When I was a kid, I watched traxxas videos and dreamed about an rc car. As soon as I turned 10, my parents bought me an hpi bullet flux. I think I’ve never been so happy, it was beautiful, and fast. Sadly, it was not as durable as what I thought. I think that during the 10 years I’ve owned it, it went through 10 diffs, and the same amount of a arms… As a teen, I barely had no money to fix these things, and parts were so hard to find and expensive.
2 years ago, for my 18th birthday, I bought myself a slash ultimate while visiting Texas with my parents. The difference with the hpi Just shocked me, being able to find cheap parts anywhere, being stronger than the hpi with metal parts and not having disposable diffs… for me traxxas is the perfect balance of performance and durability, and when you compare what you spend in spare parts in other brands, the price is not that high, but that’s just from my point of view.
Anything that is the best always attracts lots of hate. Cars, presidents, Buisness owners even you tubers it’s just jealousy.
Did you even watch the video or just the title?
The lowly Traxxas Rustler XL-5 is my favorite RC car ever. I got it refurbished for a hundred bucks and put a hundo into upgrades and it is PERFECT.
Very well said! I have 9 RC cars/trucks right now and 3 of them are Traxxas. But over the past 25 years I've had quite a few Traxxas vehicles, electric and nitro and I enjoyed all of them!
I just personally dont feel like i get the full “hobby grade” experience of rc with Traxxas vehicles. But i dont have any negative feelings towards them. I would like to see them jump into the actual racing scene though.
Traxxas has been very durable for my two daughters. They have driven their Stampedes for years and never really broke anything until my oldest ran right into a concrete wall. Broke a A-arm and bent a shock shaft. Other than that very durable. I think they are very well made and always have great parts support.
I remember Mike in Garland Tx. (DFW) back during the '80s. It was a slot car raceway and r/c was really making steam...Traxxas
really took off and slots took a back seat at the time..What fun!!
Traxxas support is second to NONE ! Period ! I wanted Traxxas as a kid and
The support u get from other brand is not different also. Traxxas give u a 30 days guarantee and proboat 2 years. Traxxas is the apple of rc
We went to a Traxxas dealer just to see what they had. My dad has a 12 year old RedCat nitro buggy that hasn't been run in like 11 years (sister ran over his radio). They guy who works at Traxxas picked the parts we needed, and told us how to set it up. Boy oh boy, seeing them old servos move was something to see. Can't wait to slap a glow plug in it and get some fuel in that car. I wonder how many more Traxxas parts we can put on that old RedCat. 😅
i dont like how exclusive they try to be, like how their wheels have the little spokes on the hexes so they only fit on traxxas hexes, or their connectors, but worst of all how much of a bully they are in the legal world. they will sue anyone just because they have the money to
I own 100% Traxxas and could care less what anyone has to say about it. I'm new to the RC Hobby and watched about every RC video on YT for 6-7 years before making my choice. Traxxas was the clear winner in all categories in my opinion and that was that! I own a Slash Ultimate, Maxx V2 and a Defender and have been 110% satisfied with all of them from day one.
I'm just trying to spend my money wisely and get the most out of every dollar that I spend. I believe that Traxxas has absolutely provided that!
Smart!
@@10thScaleGarage Thanks Brother! I appreciate the feed back. I am trying to avoid what I call the "Basher's Paradox"... :) I have seen hundreds if not thousands of examples of that and would like to avoid the schedule of "run it/break it" then spend time ordering parts/waiting for them to arrive and fixing it before it can be ran again, when I can be out there running it in stead!
At some point, I'll probably join the "Basher's Paradox" club with one RC and see what I think about that kind of play, but for now, I'm sticking with a more financially sound approach! :) I haven't been in the hobby long enough to know which aspects of it that I prefer yet!
Just got my first r/c truck at 53, I've always been a fly guy but an incredible on road/off road r/c racing track was built in my town so I picked one up. After taking a good long look at my options I went with the Arrma Vorteks and love it. I didn't go with the Arrma because I "hate" Traxxas though, I just liked the Vorteks features and wanted to try something different.
Love the vorteks
This video actually just inspired me to fix my trx4 that's been sitting for months... and now it's fixed love Traxxas!!!
I have almost every RC Car and Truck released since 2003, over 350 cars.... the good thing about traxxas is that i can still get parts for all of them. I cant find parts for MST-1, XXX-NT, RC10GT, any team associated B4,B5, B6, kyohso. I race Dirt oval and parking lots weekends and we have so much fun with the traxxas platforms.. the indoor tracks we race 2wd buggy and 4 wd Buggy.. we are always chasing the next modem from TLR, Team Assoc. Great Videos!!!
Yea I cant get parts for my LOSI XXX buggy, after I snapped a front A arm
I'm 46 now and was always fascinated by RC vehicles, whether it was a plane, car, or boat...i loved it. But i never bought one because of my lack of knowledge of it.
Then, in 1999, Traxas came out with the T-Maxx 2.5 RTR. Now i could buy a RTR NITRO truck, pull it out of the box and drive and jump it everywhere! Well, not so much. It barely ever ran smoothly, always either stalling or not starting at all. Of course didn't know the first thing about (tuning)nitro enginges or upgrading parts so after a couple of months i shelved the T-Maxx and stopped the hobby, utterly dissapointed.
Then, electric cars became stronger and more available and when Traxxas came with the TRX-4 i fell in love... i was on the verge of buying it untill they came out with the High Trail version.... i immediately bought one, and i never had so much fun with an RC truck ever. Climbing, jumping, crawling, it does it all. Everything is stock! motor, ESC, servo's... and nothing broke so far. Now i have two TRX-4 High Trail Edition's and am ready to put upgrade parts in them. But this is were i get mad:
There are so many people out here on YT "explaining" how to install an upgrade, but usually forget a step or two so you end up with more quesrions than answers, all the while sotting on a part that you don't know how to install... same goes for parts on the TRX-4 where i'm not sure if i have the right model or version; i only learned yesterday that the axles on all 1/10 TRX-4's are the same. But i had to learn that by combing out every exploded view on the Traxxas site, because it's never mentioned anywhere.
Right now for instance i'm sitting on a Hobbywing fusion pro 2300kv motor. There are some channels that provide installation guidance, but nobody mentions if the darn thing is still compatible with the Traxxas lipo-plugs...
Honestly...those sort of things bother me, i spend a lot on parts, but a whole explanation to get the truck working is hard to get...
I have a Maxx, a Sledge and a Merv. Also have an Arrma Talion and a Vorteks along with 3 Haiboxing. My Traxxas trucks break less than Arrma and have parts availability unlike HBX/MJX. I don't care for Traxxas electronics but their trucks are durable and I smile every time I run them. Lots of options out there for everyone's interests.
Brilliant as always. The Beard is looking good. Thanks for sharing. Catch ya on the flip side. John
Out of the 14 cars that I have, 9 are Traxxas. I haven't had any problems with durability with my Traxxas cars. If I need a part, my LHS has it in stock. Parts availability is probably the number one reason why I stick with Traxxas.
That’s a good reason!
I have kyosho, and range of smaller cars, never had a traxxas before..then friend gave me a rustler that his kids got bored of..just a 2wd rustler but man the quality of the plastics and fit n finish are great, can only imagine what the high end cars look like
I've lived an RC life for more than 40 years and I only have 1 Traxxas...but it would be the one truck I grabbed in a fire...TRX-6...so much fun trailing for miles and then a really competent crawler.
As an avid electronics worker, the properietarity of it all is frown worthy. Personally, I rewired and re-soldered most of the connections on my decade old stampede so I could run my own custom electronics in it. The Traxxas Titan 12t is the pinnacle of planned obsolescence . It’s just an RS-550S with worse thermal properties (so that it wears out faster) and is extremely inefficient.
I prefer the traxxas charging system being so simple while having features like phone app support though if I wasn't satisfied with their stock esc I may feel differently. Course brushed motors are old tech but they still have their place and going brushless with traxxas is fairly cheap with their trade in program. I upgraded my 4-tec 2.0 ford gt to vxl, still have my ford mustang brushed as its mostly a loaner I only drive occasionally but still enjoy driving.
Can't hate on Traxxas, bought one of their cars and that got me into the hobby, before I sold it. Now I own a used Erevo 2.0 that I just fixed, a Tekno MT410 and an Asuga XLR.
Traxxas plastics are second to none, they have modern chassis design in the x-maxx and maxx that are well beyond anything else on the market and their parts are cheap compared to others. However their electronics are pretty tame and not up to scratch even if they are pretty feature rich. And over here in the UK their warranty is junk, it is often 'voided' for abitrary reasons and is sketchy at best when concerning UK consumer rights, oh and proprietary shit. Its a nightmare and costly to buy out of the 'walled garden' if you arent happy with it. You've hit on 99% of this and Im impressed, its hard not to see a little bias in most of these types of videos and I think you've done a good job at being fair
Great vid and great points there! The greatest rc stuff is the one you drive and enjoy driving. Have fun driving and/or wrenching or give it to the guy who enjoys wrenching to do it for ya. There is no wrong way of having fun with an rc. And this is what this hobby's all about.
Hi, I just found your channel by accident, and listened with interest to your talk about Traxxas, I totally agree with everything that you say. I have had all the main, and obscure Rc’s throughout my years and to be totally honest, Traxxas is my “go to” Rc these days.
I know how companies work, and as you said the ecosystem of Traxxas is very similar to Apple, people want a plug and play life, somewhere you can get parts for all their ‘toys’ and I get it, I really do.
I am 66 this year and for the past 40 of them I have been in and out of the hobby in some form or another, it gets into your blood, and i keep coming back to it, and the easiest way for me is Traxxas … I have a couple of other brands, but getting parts when they break, is not easy.
Anyhoo….. love the channel, I am away now to watch more of your vids…. You gained another subscriber today for your honest and up front talk. Cheers from sunny Scotland.
Cheers! I’m glad you’re here!
Lots of people hate on Tamiya too, but Tamiya stuff if not overpowered is fun to drive, and old school .
I got into the RC hobby when they first came out with the original T-maxx in 1999. My second truck was the first release of the Revo (best Nitro truck I have driven). I took a long break from RC cars in 2003 when I started my career. I got back into the hobby about 2 years ago. I own all the main brands of RC's. I love Arrma's and Traxxas but I did not like the lawsuit you spoke of. I own an Arrma Nero Big Rock and I love the truck so much. Unfortunately, it is now just a wall hanger because im afraid of breaking it since you can not get any parts for it because of the lawsuit. I will say, I am big on customizing my RC's and have done plenty of Traxxas's. They are both great companies.
New to the hobby and experiencing everything you descrive... my local shop carries Traxxas but clearly prefer Armma...and pretty much anything else. I appreciate this video. You earned a sub.
I own a Traxxas Slash 4x4, it's had a few parts broken, but I love it, love the experience, and love how easy it is to use. Good talk, yep, pretty much Apple in an rc car.
I own a lot of Arma and one Traxxas. The Traxxas is biult very well and I've hardly had to do anything to it. The Arma's keep me pretty busy but the better I get at driving them the more its about performance upgrades and maintenance than constant repair. I think both brands are very good. These two companies definitely seem to take different approaches to design with makes the hobby more diverse. I personally really enjoy driving both brands.
Mike Jenkins is actually the Owner, President & Chief Executive Officer of Traxxas.
I got the traxxas bug back in 2008, the slash, been a fan ever since, along with redcat. I've tried many brand's, and found myself like you, my traxxas line is a bit large!
Bought my first rc car 4 years ago. I specifically bought the slash 4x4. After researching, I realized I could find parts around every corner and an entire inventory of aftermarket parts. Couldn't be happier. Also I have never and don't own a traxxas charger or batteries.
It's a brand loyalty thing where everybody feels like they need to pick a side and always hate the other guys. It's the same thing we see with full size vehicles, Ford vs GM vs Mopar. The inflated prices, proprietary hardware are pretty bad though. This hobby is new for me, so I do appreciate how easy it is for me to replace parts on my TRX4 and Rustler 4x4 VXL. But I do think I will eventually branch out to Arma and some of the others. Even thinking about Axial for a small crawler. Respect to those that build theirs from scratch, but that's not for me.
Imagine being a person obsessed with a particular brand. Except if you are the founder, the CEO, you have shares in the company or you work there and you are so happy that you feel you have to support your employer, being a person obsessed with a brand is meaningless, it is better to be obsessed with yourself and On the contrary, strive to find the best product for you, regardless of the brand, the one that gives you the most entertainment and make the most of your money.
Yes, the parts available are very important and I've had that experience of going in telling them sort of what I need and they know exactly what I need.
Right??
I ain’t even going to lie the start of this video made me want to return my car lol glad I watched the whole video great content bro new to the hobby and enjoyed the knowledge
Appreciate it!!
So i have something to say.... I am a grown as 39 year old man with 2 kids (Girl 19, son 16) My daughter and i collect weapons, and i struggled connecting with my son (magic, yugio, etc.) I remembered that my grandfather always bought me RC cars, and trucks when he came back from a trip. Now these are the ones with the controller on a cable... So nothing like now. I bought a super cheap 16th scale basher truck on amazon, and had a good time. Then i saw adds and whatnot for traxxas. After about 3 weeks or so i went and got a 2wd slash. I kept hearing about all the shock caps and other issues.. But im happy to report that i have had no issues, and run it daily. (i dont bash it though) I took my son to my local BMX track and we let it rip.... I can attest that we both fell in love and now we both have 2 traxxas trucks. We are looking into drift cars next, which is how i ended up here, but let me tell you Thank you Traxxas, you saved my relationship with my son. (at least for now) every night we are outside having a great time. We dont use any of the traxxas chargers or batteries, cause, yeah, no, not paying that much. But i do agree, its nice to know that when something does break, i can go to a local store, and get what i need. .... Cool video. Thanks.
I own a few vehicles from Traxxas. Most of them are currently dismantled in my workshop as I haven’t got around to fixing them yet, and currently im looking for a job so I can fix them, currently the pride of my collection is my Kyosho USA 1 that is borrowing my tmaxx body.
As a 35yo getting into RCs for the first time (always loved them just never really way able to participate in the hobby), I can tell you that while I have played with a few Traxxas and so appreciate the simplicity and overall performance, I think Traxxas brand is suffering heavily in 2024. I have not even considered buying one over the other options, even some older cars, and modifying /upgrading them. I currently have WLtoys lol. 540 Brushless 959A, on 3S and 124017 ordered.
Also, this was an extremely entertaining and educational vid. Subbed
I picked up my rustler vxl 2wd for dirt cheap on a private sale. I love it. Fast, durable and easy to upgrade. Hangs out with my friends who drive cars all over the map. All makes and scales.
When did they bring out the high low transmission?
First time watching this channel and l felt the need to comment. I have many different makes of RC cars in my collection…..Arrma, Axial, HPI, HSP and Traxxas to name a few. All of them are fun to drive and all put a smile on my dial in different ways. I have an Arrma Talion that’s powered by a Traxxas XO-1 1650kv motor and it absolutely kicks ass. I’ve got both an Arrma Kraton and Talion with dual motors that l built myself that scare the crap out of me. I have a Traxxas Revo 3.3 and a Slayer Pro 3.3 that l purchased back in 2015 that to this day have never been started or even had nitro in the tank. My first electric car was HSP Planet that l bought l think in 2014 and it’s been an absolute tank, and still runs perfect to this day. I’ve had cars cartwheel into next week and broke nothing but another car roll a few times and I’d have a snapped wing or a broken shock. It’s just the nature of the hobby. Drive, break, repair, repeat.
Traxxas started out with copying other brands and are now the biggest patent trolls on the block. They literally patent stuff that wouldnt hold up in court, simply to use it as ammo to attack other companies and if said company cant survive the cease and resist, its over for them. They killed off Hobbico, HPI and Maclan Racing and even tried going after HBO Max.
Hating on stuff is what i did when I was a 10 - 12 year kid. Some people grow out of it early, some people just never grow out of it. I tend to stay away from those who are so loyal to a brand and hate on another for no reason other than they got on that same sinking ship. They tend to be a bunch of narcissists too. From my experience, they don't just act this way with RC cars. It's everything in life. Heaven forbid you to bring up politics with those people you won't make back home alive, lol. Subscribed. Great video. O'doyle rules!
I generally have a pretty simple view of Traxxas. I think they make good product. I hate their proprietary electronics and I think they're a little over-priced. But that marketing budget isn't going to pay for itself. But they do have a lot of 1st and they do make good product so at leas there's that. And no matter what we think of Traxxas, the RC hobby certainly wouldn't be where it is today without them so it's a good thing they're around just like other good RC brands out there. A rising tide lifts all boats.
ON RTR @7:00 - If you've ever driven your 1/10 scale ANYTHING in anger, or truly bashed it - maybe fully submerged it in the river, whatever - you've got to get in there and disassemble EVERYTHING. It should be part of the process to learn your UBER EXPENSIVE electronics and toys, part of the responsibility for anyone old enough to run a real R/C. I specifically bought higher-end stuff for my family and young nephews to help them learn complex mechanical systems and microelectronic basics.
So my 1st RC as a kid was a Tyco Rebound. Was indestructible for a 90's RC. So for me I love durability and runtime. Now as a adult I figure there is a plethora of information and just sheer amount of RC's nowadays. Decided to try a $15 walmart RC to dip the toe. Impressed with a cheap 18th scale that I wish was 4WD I started searching and learning hobby grade RC's and just RC stuff in general to get up to speed. Defiantly overwhelming options and I usually come to a conclusion of "this looks nice but I can't find exactly what I want". Feel like I have to build my own from scratch to get my desired looks, durability, and runtime. I hate seeing Traxxas everywhere and I hate how some people go out of way to break RC's like they think it's normal and say "oh yeah, that broke easy"....no shit...you sent it 20 feet in the air and landed on concrete or 20+ mph into a hard object, lol. Thanks for this video. I've noticed It's hard to find metal stuff for RC's, like parts and frames, for different scales and different models, it's usually locked to a brand or model which sucks. All this just makes me wish for my own 3D printer and a metal shop lol.
I raced Team Associated RC10T & Team Car Graphite back in the early 90's when I ran them in 2010 or so parts were unavailable so i was afraid of going thru my stock of parts and i did my research and bought a Stampede to bash on and never looked backwards. I have a Slash 4x4 Ultimate, 2 Stampedes, Highly Modified TRX-4 Blazer and a LOSI LMT and that breaks the most.
The problem I have with Traxxas is the electronics, like everyone else. Receivers, and esc, servos are so fast to fall apart. Hating on them though is stupid, because nothing is perfect in RC. Nobody makes anything that makes me say "wow, they are just plain the best". Nobody.