Me and several friends are going to be there June 3rd and 4th. We’ll be making a 13 hour drive. This thing better be open by then. 😡 It’s basically the whole reason we are going to Cedar Point.
@@supersanic1254well to some point I think it’s fair considering all the park has been advertising for the last 6 months is this ride. Yes, there are many other world class rides but this is their centerpiece attraction. As someone who got to ride TT2 multiple times at a preview event it’s really sad to see problems literally one week into park operations😢.
This is exactly why I booked my trip for the 3rd week of August. Wanted to go earlier but had a gut feeling something like this would happen. Better be up by August. It's the only reason why I'm going back to Cedar Point.
I Went on Saturday, It was closed. Magnum also broke down on the lift hill and people had to be evacuated. Gemini was also closed I managed to conquer Blue Streak and Iron Dragon. So I'm moving up that list
I just got back yesterday from my first visit to Cedar Point. Whatever changes are made, I'm just glad I was fortunate enough to get on this twice in its original form
@@jorge5275 They said "in it's *original form* " which means Dragster. I too got to ride dragster 4 times. Waiting for a chance to go back and ride TT2 now!
@@squillz8310 I Rode it for the first time in July about a month before that poor woman was struck in that Incident😢. It was my first time at Cedar Point,.I got a Fast pass Plus and was able to ride The OG TTS four or five times I can't remember It was the last ride I rode before I left the park for the night. And it just Happened to be the BEST RIDE I have EVER Ridden. And now it's gone, So To Speak 😏 I'm good ng to enjoy this one hopefully almost as much
@@jorge5275 Hey man, I was literally there. I know they're different rides. But that's my point as well. I was talking about before they make any modifications to TT2 specifically (adding seatbelts, changing lap bars, etc.) Look at Superman Escape from Krypton at Magic Mountain. That ride opened forward facing with lap bars. Now it goes forwards OR backwards with over the shoulder. Yes, it's the same ride, but it's not and will never be in its original form
This is a one-of-a-kind ride, with prototype trains on it. Like you said, there is a lot of stress on those wheels. In my opinion, they should have conducted way more testing even if it meant over shooting opening day by a week or two. I am coming out in August and can't wait to ride this thing!
Well, this is what happens when you use Zamperla. Saw it coming with all the problems Wild Mouse had all season last year. Hopefully Cedar Fair goes back to Intamin, they would have done a much better job.
@@AnthonyCP-si6ciI know. Time to bury the hatchet. Imagine if Cedar Point had a Hagrid's or something similar. It would be amazing. But no, they keep investing into this money pit of a coaster.
Plan on visiting next weekend for my birthday..... Will postpone my visit if it's still closed. I loved the original, but I hope this doesn't have as many problems 😮
Top Thrill 2 uses LSMs to launch trains which are more reliable as there is no physical contact with the trains. TT2 will have much less downtime due to this.
Was there in 2003 at the opening day for TTD. Have been every year since it opened, and not once has it been closed down when I was there. I’m a season pass holder and go multiple times a year. Crazy telling that 8 days into its life it’s down for more than just a few hours at the park. I guess a flat ride company wasn’t the savior everyone thought it would be.
Top thrill 3 coming soon. One train got too close to the reverse spike top on Thursday. Gonna add a stopper, and have it go slower over the top hat because of the stress. To compensate for this. Cedar point agreed to have initial launch be at around 101 to match the reverse speed, to get higher on the rollback
I can’t imagine they wouldn’t have it fixed by Coaster Mania. Too anticipated of an event. I don’t see CP being happy with Zamperla if they can’t have it up by then
They push boundaries for sure, but then you consider (just from recent memory) the maintenance nightmare the hydraulic model is at each of its installations and El Toro’s train/structural issues. Their hands are in no way clean
I’m going June 14th and the main reason why I planned my trip was for Top Thrill 2. So, hopefully this issue clears up in about a month. I’ve been to Cedar Point about 3 times now (sadly was not able to ride original Dragster even though I did go twice in 2019) and I really want to ride my first strata coaster.
I've been to CP twice and got to ride Dragster twice, but Dragster for me wasn't all the interesting. was over way to quick. TT2 looks much more fun. You'll get to ride it I"m sure.
@@fc5139 Yea, But you'll Never get that 0-120 Anymore. Not the same launch at all. That crazy thrill isn't gonna be there anymore. 😢 I'm still eager to try this one though
@@jorge5275 I think you're failing to comprehend the physical sensation of going backwards at 100mph over 300 feet into the air. Yes, the launch isn't nearly as powerful as the hydraulic launch (but it's far more reliable of a system now), however you're getting *3* total launches. You're getting more ride experience, a new unique element (to the ride) that's the largest of its kind in the world. Don't forget that TT2 is *still* the 2nd tallest and 3rd fastest rollercoaster in the entire world. I'll take the tradeoff for sure! I would've gotten more rides on Dragster if it didn't spend 90% of its time shut down. I'm confident I could get more rides on TT2 in one day than I did on Dragster in 4 days total.
i think the launch/break plates on trains are overheating as they are doing twice the work now, so after to many launches the heat makes it not clear tower, they need to blast AC onto fins,
When I was there on May 1st for Rider preview. We experienced over an hour of Downtime. It probably is more a coincidence, but during testing, the silver train was running and after coming back down the spike, the train just stopped - from straight speed over a hundred mph, to dead stop on the track, around where the launch is…. Not only that, but at least three seats on that train were tagged off and not available for guests. It was such a good and smooth ride, so I hope whatever the issue, it’s resolved quickly!
I'm curious... do you mean it stopped on its 1st launch? 91mph up, & when it came down backwards, before going up the spike, & before the 120mph launch, THAT'S when it abruptly stopped? If so that may have been just a singular initial launch test, which is normal. Otherwise that would be very worrisome!
I feel for everyone that went and it was closed. I live 20 minutes from there and couldn't imagine traveling from out of town/state/country only to have it be closed
At Winter Chill out, they were having issues unlocking the restraints when they shouldn't have even been locking at the time because they had the battery attached. I assumed they got that all sorted out and it was just because the train wasn't on the track, but maybe that's still an issue they are having? I have no idea, I'm just guessing based off of what I know.
Im going to guess here but a cracked wheel could very well be caused and the actual cause if it's own issue. I keep saying it, they increased the height of the train which increased drag, and in turn created a high center of gravity causing the trains to shimmy. Road wheels being aluminum take all the shimmy on the center of that hub. The OG trains I believe ran a 17 inch road wheel. If they were to shorten up the roads, it would get the ride height down on the train, and in turn the hub of the wheels would be stronger. This would help eliminate the shimmy, give a little bigger safety envelope for the trains and take some wind resistance out of the equation
Only problem with shorter road wheels would be shortening their life cycle. I don't think that was ever a big issue before on the OG trains. Main thing would be to find a high speed compound urethane, probably something similar to before or like what mellinium runs on its road wheel
@@robertstephens5185They should use the same wheels thats on Formula Rossa. That thing goes 149mph so those wheels should be able to take the abuse from TT2.
@@Coasterfan71 that compound outta work. I just thought of another variable too. Can't just change out to shorter wheels unless they built adjustment or multi hole mounts for the guide wheels. If zamperla anticipated the possibility in advance then they probably could just adjust their location for smaller roads. If not, then they could be drilling new mounting holes and worse case scenario would be entire new bogies
To my understanding, the straight track is still original. Please let me be wrong!! I also watched as they built all last year & I never saw them replace it. However, parts went on as soon a they got em, & there's all off-season as well. But I've seen multiple videos online (take with grain of salt) stating str8 track is original. Really hope I'm wrong!
So let me see if I got this str8, CP is mad at Company A they bought a prototype ride from with issues, SO THEN you hire Company B to reimagine your prototype ride that’s has NEVER done a project this big with prototype trains, mean while Company A has now work out there issues is now killing it. HMMM 🤔
This is why people need to stop giving credit/praise to a new ride that JUST opened. This was bound to have problems, But people were adamant about giving Zamperla the benefit of the doubt.
Man this park can not catch a break with this coaster. To be honest I would have been perfectly ok with them scraping this coaster completely and starting off with some completely tall and record breaking.
Me and several friends are going to be there June 3rd and 4th. We’ll be making a 13 hour drive. This thing better be open by then. 😡 It’s basically the whole reason we are going to Cedar Point.
Its my only reason im going to the point the same time. Its crazy, a multi million dollar project can’t run right smh
Shame there's like, 70 other rides to enjoy, no need to be butthurt over one lol.
@@supersanic1254well to some point I think it’s fair considering all the park has been advertising for the last 6 months is this ride. Yes, there are many other world class rides but this is their centerpiece attraction. As someone who got to ride TT2 multiple times at a preview event it’s really sad to see problems literally one week into park operations😢.
Yeah, I wouldn't go if it wasn't open. Show them why it's important to just spend the money to build the ride properly.
I completely understand your frustration and I’d be pissed too but this park is amazing you will have so much fun regardless
This is exactly why I booked my trip for the 3rd week of August. Wanted to go earlier but had a gut feeling something like this would happen. Better be up by August. It's the only reason why I'm going back to Cedar Point.
they know how much money they lose with it not operating, it'll definitely be open before august
Man honestly top thrill is fun I got to ride it twice opening weekend but Steal Vengeance and Millennium Force are better rides
Same here.
I Went on Saturday, It was closed. Magnum also broke down on the lift hill and people had to be evacuated. Gemini was also closed
I managed to conquer Blue Streak and Iron Dragon. So I'm moving up that list
I went too, I took a pic of magnum stuck
@@_-astro_starry-_ I did too
today Magnum and Gemini were closed and Valravn was sending empty trains
Magnum lift hill breaks near the end of every season. Having trouble this early might be concerning for the future of this historic beast.
@@wrestlertown007 yeah it’s quite scary
I just got back yesterday from my first visit to Cedar Point. Whatever changes are made, I'm just glad I was fortunate enough to get on this twice in its original form
Ugh, Dude Original Form was Top thrill DRAGSTER.
This is Top thrill 2. Totally different
@@jorge5275 They said "in it's *original form* " which means Dragster. I too got to ride dragster 4 times. Waiting for a chance to go back and ride TT2 now!
@@squillz8310 I Rode it for the first time in July about a month before that poor woman was struck in that Incident😢.
It was my first time at Cedar Point,.I got a Fast pass Plus and was able to ride The OG TTS four or five times I can't remember
It was the last ride I rode before I left the park for the night.
And it just Happened to be the BEST RIDE I have EVER Ridden.
And now it's gone, So To Speak 😏
I'm good ng to enjoy this one hopefully almost as much
@@jorge5275 Hey man, I was literally there. I know they're different rides. But that's my point as well. I was talking about before they make any modifications to TT2 specifically (adding seatbelts, changing lap bars, etc.) Look at Superman Escape from Krypton at Magic Mountain. That ride opened forward facing with lap bars. Now it goes forwards OR backwards with over the shoulder. Yes, it's the same ride, but it's not and will never be in its original form
I'm glad I got one ride Friday!
This is a one-of-a-kind ride, with prototype trains on it. Like you said, there is a lot of stress on those wheels. In my opinion, they should have conducted way more testing even if it meant over shooting opening day by a week or two. I am coming out in August and can't wait to ride this thing!
Glad we came on Wednwsday ans got to ride it Friday...i knew it
Thet did pull the silver train off Friday afternoon
I am traveling from california to cedar point in June. Hope it’s open
Oh you have to be kidding me, a lot of people are going just because of TT2 and now it's closed!
Well, this is what happens when you use Zamperla. Saw it coming with all the problems Wild Mouse had all season last year.
Hopefully Cedar Fair goes back to Intamin, they would have done a much better job.
@@supersanic1254 cedar fair hasn`t in years
Yup, going on the 20th and 21st
@@AnthonyCP-si6ciI know. Time to bury the hatchet. Imagine if Cedar Point had a Hagrid's or something similar. It would be amazing. But no, they keep investing into this money pit of a coaster.
@supersanic1254 a yes let's talk about the coaster that recently opened in Germany.voltron also had a lot of problems already I guess Zamperla as well
Isn't it the nylon tyre problem again?
Large but thin tyres seem to crack a lot due to the centripetal forces on them.
Plan on visiting next weekend for my birthday..... Will postpone my visit if it's still closed. I loved the original, but I hope this doesn't have as many problems 😮
Top Thrill 2 uses LSMs to launch trains which are more reliable as there is no physical contact with the trains. TT2 will have much less downtime due to this.
Was there in 2003 at the opening day for TTD. Have been every year since it opened, and not once has it been closed down when I was there. I’m a season pass holder and go multiple times a year. Crazy telling that 8 days into its life it’s down for more than just a few hours at the park. I guess a flat ride company wasn’t the savior everyone thought it would be.
Top thrill 3 coming soon.
One train got too close to the reverse spike top on Thursday.
Gonna add a stopper, and have it go slower over the top hat because of the stress.
To compensate for this. Cedar point agreed to have initial launch be at around 101 to match the reverse speed, to get higher on the rollback
Source: trust me bro.
@@thelord6898 Exactly hahaha
Dude really typed this out and said, oh yeah I got ‘em with this one.
me when I spread misinformation
Top Thrill 3: The Search For Top Thrill 2
Look this new to zamperla, first for them give them time to work out any issues, I'm looking forward to riding this coaster in the near future.
Maybe teying to make that back cart smoother lmao that thing is going to fly off soon ...the whip is insane
I can’t imagine they wouldn’t have it fixed by Coaster Mania. Too anticipated of an event. I don’t see CP being happy with Zamperla if they can’t have it up by then
I'm going for the first time this Saturday, the plan was to get over my fear of coasters 😅 I hope it'll be open but probably not
im literally going next weekend im gonna cry😢
Same here!
You Poor Soul
I feel for you 😢
Planning on the first week of July.
Keeping my fingers crossed
I was there on yesterday and it was closed I but I’m there allot and I know it will reopen
What’s next top thrill 3
TTD lasted 18 years. TT2 lasted 18 hours. 🤣
Well I’m worried if i go back to cedar point in July this will make me worried if TT2 will not open due some other issues
Intamin is the best manufacturer. Cedar Fair’s maintenance team is responsible for that piece injuring that woman.
They push boundaries for sure, but then you consider (just from recent memory) the maintenance nightmare the hydraulic model is at each of its installations and El Toro’s train/structural issues. Their hands are in no way clean
That sucks, looking forward to try it out.
Im headed there in a month, luckily thats plenty of time for them to play with this
Should have stuck to Intamin for this one
I’m going June 14th and the main reason why I planned my trip was for Top Thrill 2. So, hopefully this issue clears up in about a month. I’ve been to Cedar Point about 3 times now (sadly was not able to ride original Dragster even though I did go twice in 2019) and I really want to ride my first strata coaster.
I've been to CP twice and got to ride Dragster twice, but Dragster for me wasn't all the interesting. was over way to quick. TT2 looks much more fun. You'll get to ride it I"m sure.
@@fc5139
Yea, But you'll Never get that 0-120 Anymore.
Not the same launch at all.
That crazy thrill isn't gonna be there anymore. 😢
I'm still eager to try this one though
@@jorge5275 I think you're failing to comprehend the physical sensation of going backwards at 100mph over 300 feet into the air. Yes, the launch isn't nearly as powerful as the hydraulic launch (but it's far more reliable of a system now), however you're getting *3* total launches. You're getting more ride experience, a new unique element (to the ride) that's the largest of its kind in the world. Don't forget that TT2 is *still* the 2nd tallest and 3rd fastest rollercoaster in the entire world. I'll take the tradeoff for sure! I would've gotten more rides on Dragster if it didn't spend 90% of its time shut down. I'm confident I could get more rides on TT2 in one day than I did on Dragster in 4 days total.
@@squillz8310 I'm sure I'll still enjoy
Hopefully it's up and Running by the end of June 🥹
Better be back open this July, that’s when im going.
Better be closed this 2024 season.
I believe the straight track is all new Zamperla track. The top hat is still Intamin
i think the launch/break plates on trains are overheating as they are doing twice the work now, so after to many launches the heat makes it not clear tower, they need to blast AC onto fins,
kinda like how the fastest tesla, cools the motor for that max launch, for about 60 seonds or it would overheat,
Zamperla 😂😂😂
So much for Intamin being too unreliable.
I’m going for coastermania from NC. This better open
I assume they planned for this being open by Coastermania.
When I was there on May 1st for Rider preview. We experienced over an hour of Downtime. It probably is more a coincidence, but during testing, the silver train was running and after coming back down the spike, the train just stopped - from straight speed over a hundred mph, to dead stop on the track, around where the launch is…. Not only that, but at least three seats on that train were tagged off and not available for guests. It was such a good and smooth ride, so I hope whatever the issue, it’s resolved quickly!
I'm curious... do you mean it stopped on its 1st launch? 91mph up, & when it came down backwards, before going up the spike, & before the 120mph launch, THAT'S when it abruptly stopped? If so that may have been just a singular initial launch test, which is normal. Otherwise that would be very worrisome!
Apparently the the back seats if your sat there you could touch the wheels been an issue since IAAPA
Of course it happens when I’m going tomorrow 😢
I feel for everyone that went and it was closed. I live 20 minutes from there and couldn't imagine traveling from out of town/state/country only to have it be closed
I was there yesterday, but I wasn’t gonna go on it if it was open… but that sucks for ppl who wanted to
At Winter Chill out, they were having issues unlocking the restraints when they shouldn't have even been locking at the time because they had the battery attached. I assumed they got that all sorted out and it was just because the train wasn't on the track, but maybe that's still an issue they are having? I have no idea, I'm just guessing based off of what I know.
I heard that the lighter trains are having difficulty functioning in high winds compared to the heavier/lower center of gravity Dragster’s trains.
when zamperla gets their engineers from wish
Damn I got lucky that I was able to get a ride this Friday
I’m booked at lighthouse point this coming weekend guys 🫠
I went to cedar point opening weekend on Sunday and tt2 broke down 6 times while I was in line
thats fairly normal for an opening weekend rollercoaster.
This ride could've been soo much better with just a tiny bit more money. Cedar Point completely missed the ball
Everyone say it: This is why you use intamin
Im going to guess here but a cracked wheel could very well be caused and the actual cause if it's own issue. I keep saying it, they increased the height of the train which increased drag, and in turn created a high center of gravity causing the trains to shimmy. Road wheels being aluminum take all the shimmy on the center of that hub.
The OG trains I believe ran a 17 inch road wheel. If they were to shorten up the roads, it would get the ride height down on the train, and in turn the hub of the wheels would be stronger. This would help eliminate the shimmy, give a little bigger safety envelope for the trains and take some wind resistance out of the equation
Only problem with shorter road wheels would be shortening their life cycle. I don't think that was ever a big issue before on the OG trains. Main thing would be to find a high speed compound urethane, probably something similar to before or like what mellinium runs on its road wheel
@@robertstephens5185They should use the same wheels thats on Formula Rossa. That thing goes 149mph so those wheels should be able to take the abuse from TT2.
@@Coasterfan71 that compound outta work. I just thought of another variable too. Can't just change out to shorter wheels unless they built adjustment or multi hole mounts for the guide wheels. If zamperla anticipated the possibility in advance then they probably could just adjust their location for smaller roads. If not, then they could be drilling new mounting holes and worse case scenario would be entire new bogies
I went to the "music in the parks" with my choir yesterday and it was closed, I had really wanted to see it run.
ohhh that’s what it was, I was wondering, I was there on a band trip yesterday.
Isn't the launch and brake track all new? I thought it was replaced?
it is
*brake
To my understanding, the straight track is still original. Please let me be wrong!! I also watched as they built all last year & I never saw them replace it. However, parts went on as soon a they got em, & there's all off-season as well. But I've seen multiple videos online (take with grain of salt) stating str8 track is original. Really hope I'm wrong!
I was in line when they removed the Silver Train and also heard something hit the cover of the line waiting area
wow when was that? it was completely closed out yesterday when I was there
@@willstrath Friday Night around 7:00pm
Good thing I got 2 rides on it on opening day and the day after
I'm going to cedar Point today and I when to go on it i love CEDAR POINT
Going in July. So I’ll be fine. Other than the long July wait times.
This is bad news! The damage control for this is going to be epic, because the original had so many breakdowns, now this!
I wonder if this has anything to do with that one day wen there were rollbacks galore. I was kinda jealous I wasn't there that day.
Going tomorrow and won’t be able to ride “top thrill __” for my 3rd CP visit in a row
I went for the cedar point band competition and our director was about to go onto the ride but it wasn’t open so we couldn’t watch him ride
I was wondering why there was so many band stuff there, I was there on a band trip but we didn’t do anything for it there
How can other states keep their fast rides open and not cedar point though
Those trains wobbleee
I’m going in the beginning of June and I hope it’s open
I’ll be there also at the beginning of June. They better have this back up and running by then. Hopefully they get this fixed soon.
@@Coasterfan71 agreed this and steel Vengence are the main reasons why I’m here
The problem is with those aluminum trains and those large wheels.
So let me see if I got this str8, CP is mad at Company A they bought a prototype ride from with issues, SO THEN you hire Company B to reimagine your prototype ride that’s has NEVER done a project this big with prototype trains, mean while Company A has now work out there issues is now killing it. HMMM 🤔
Hope its open late july
This is why people need to stop giving credit/praise to a new ride that JUST opened. This was bound to have problems, But people were adamant about giving Zamperla the benefit of the doubt.
I’m going next weekend and will be extremely mad it this ride is down
The topiary needs a new track it was kind rough jittery on the 20 year old track going over the top hat
they will reopen in two years as TT3
Still had to cancel our 4 hr trip up there this coming Thursday. 😞
It’s not even the best ride at the park lol. Never was. I don’t know why you’d cancel a trip for this news.
@@travisvanalst4698 been there 9 times the last 2 years.
Noooo! My baby! I want to ride sweet sweet TT2, or let it ride me but instead I have to wait
This ride isn't all that.
@@timothykaczmarek5871 what do you prefer?
Gfdi Zamperla
they should rename TT2 to Final Destination
Sad hurry up and open it back up
All trains shake, sliver is the worst one. So probably working on the reason.
The trains barley got over that hill
Cedar Point is gonna lose millions of guests
2025
If this turns out to be another problematic coaster, then the makeover was pretty much pointless!
Wheels overheating?
Wait they used tape to adjust the clearance lol
No they use it to see if the train comes into contact with the lsm
Probably because there isn't seat belts
25 million dollars down the toilet
Man this park can not catch a break with this coaster. To be honest I would have been perfectly ok with them scraping this coaster completely and starting off with some completely tall and record breaking.
It’s a new ride, give them some time to adjust whatever it’s going on, it happens to anything new, a house, car etc.
The Ghost of Top Thrill Dragster has reared its ugly head.
Not safe
Someone said a cracked wheel 🤷♂️
I thought the launch track was new
Sorry I should’ve specified, I meant the straight track before the bend up into the top hat. The LSMs are new
@@CoasterLegendYT The LSM's are new, or the launch LSM track is new? They didn't replace that, did they?
@@jonny-b4954 everything except the top hat is new
@@AnthonyCP-si6ci Ah
No seatbelts?
Wtf?
I mean its always nice to have that peace of mind of a Back up, Isnt it?
It just makes dispatch times way longer
This is a joke. I’m going in a week bruh 😭
A lot of people got tickets in advance for CP to go and ride TT2. Will people be issued a refund?
If they talk to guest services I’m sure they’d be refunded
Cedar Point WILL NOT refund admission.
they won't refund and will probably kick you out of the park if you ask for a refund
you can get a full refund if you get ticket insurance
@@AnthonyCP-si6ci ticket insurance is crazy
It's not a big surprise. This isn't big news.