When Will Top Thrill 2 Reopen?

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  • Опубликовано: 12 май 2024
  • Top Thrill 2 is closed for an unknown duration while Zamperla addresses a mechanical issue with the coaster's trains. In this video, I address my thoughts on what is wrong and when the ride could reopen.
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  • @realmackle
    @realmackle Месяц назад +537

    "I'm not going to say exactly what part it is"
    **Very clear b-roll of the train's wheels**
    Well played Ryan. Well played.

    • @toyoracer33
      @toyoracer33 Месяц назад +22

      I came here to say something along these lines lol

    • @MalrusOSC
      @MalrusOSC Месяц назад +7

      I only just noticed that, very clever

    • @0dylan
      @0dylan Месяц назад +6

      Saw the same thing lol. I assumed it would be the wheels anyways.

    • @glw607
      @glw607 Месяц назад

      Just have someone shoot over to "Discount Tire" and be done with it. Probably get a deal by buying in bulk!

    • @huddyr1112
      @huddyr1112 Месяц назад +5

      I was going to make the exact same comment! We can always count on this dude to come through in the clutch

  • @user-tc8cz3tq9e
    @user-tc8cz3tq9e Месяц назад +187

    The extended downtime should “give them the time they needed” to correct the locker setup.

    • @incredirocks_
      @incredirocks_ Месяц назад +15

      Doubtful, they'll probably do that during winter

    • @aleksthevoyager1260
      @aleksthevoyager1260 Месяц назад

      @@incredirocks_ I could see either or

    • @Sonic-gy7kq
      @Sonic-gy7kq Месяц назад +2

      @@incredirocks_ They gotta make these maintenance costs back lol

    • @timothykaczmarek5871
      @timothykaczmarek5871 Месяц назад +1

      The locker situation is not even an issue with everything else on this thing.

    • @MyLifeAsBrandon
      @MyLifeAsBrandon Месяц назад +4

      They can figure out a way to put in the small free lockers like SteVe has. They just want to make more money. 🙃

  • @alantrotter2077
    @alantrotter2077 Месяц назад +87

    I love how you talk about “the part” and show video after video clip regarding the wheel but don’t state the actual part. Well done.

  • @MichaelBerry1
    @MichaelBerry1 Месяц назад +43

    Real F1 cars use 3 sets of tires each race. Frequent wheel changes will just add to the theming.

  • @dwhitman12341
    @dwhitman12341 Месяц назад +59

    When the closure was first announced, I was thinking the wheels. But after watching your video, I realize I was way off base and it’s obviously something else.

    • @AOmega72
      @AOmega72 Месяц назад +6

      lol I think it was the paint color

  • @Soonjai
    @Soonjai Месяц назад +74

    I´m honestly surprised that TT2 operated without a Showstopper as long as it did. Parts of it are a Prototype any Zamperla never did anything even close to this scale before. And I agree that Zamperla will most likely fix the issue, even if it takes 2 or 3 weeks to get it done.

    • @GMDasLied
      @GMDasLied Месяц назад +5

      What is a Showstopper?

    • @BlueZirnitra
      @BlueZirnitra Месяц назад +9

      ​@@GMDasLied It's just a turn of phrase, meaning an issue that shuts the ride down.

  • @EnxoRan
    @EnxoRan Месяц назад +37

    I luckily got to ride it the Friday before it closed. It's absolutely nuts and the positive g's going backwards are stupid, I think I almost greyed out on that section.

  • @cassiritchie8137
    @cassiritchie8137 Месяц назад +53

    Clever editing sir 🤓 looking forward to riding this once said part is modified

    • @js384575
      @js384575 Месяц назад +9

      Unsaid part 😂

    • @_rockseeker
      @_rockseeker Месяц назад

      ​@@js384575took the words out of my mouth 😆

    • @GLJosh
      @GLJosh Месяц назад +7

      I think you mean "looking forward, then backward, and forward again' to riding this once said part is modified". All of that motion must be 'tiring' to the coaster.

  • @twistedmetal313
    @twistedmetal313 Месяц назад +159

    Zamperla will get it right, but it’s just going to take some time unfortunately. They did a great job when designing this ride to be reliable and efficient. The dispatch intervals on TT2 are super impressive.

    • @TylerEaves
      @TylerEaves Месяц назад +31

      They obviously didn't do a great job since it's shut down for modifications a week after opening.

    • @twistedmetal313
      @twistedmetal313 Месяц назад +10

      @@TylerEaves The key words are reliable and efficient. It’s not an uncommon occurrence for a new ride design, especially a large one, to have a wheel issue. You don’t have to travel too far from TT2 to run into another example of that..

    • @GiacomoMasciadri
      @GiacomoMasciadri Месяц назад +3

      ​@@TylerEaves Well, Voltron had, and probably still have few problems. I think that Is not a rare thing

    • @journeyfms
      @journeyfms Месяц назад +8

      If a great job = terrible unreliable launch, then sure.

    • @brittariedel3446
      @brittariedel3446 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@GiacomoMasciadri but Voltron is not closed. It is running stable

  • @TheNinjaDC
    @TheNinjaDC Месяц назад +21

    To give Zamperla so credit, wheels are one the things that require a lot of trial and error.
    They are hard to test until the coaster is in full operation, and the ride is cycled continuously.
    Both B&M and Intamin have to fine tool the right tires and formula to grip the track properly, but not melt. I think I305 in particular was known for melting its tires for awhile.

    • @AttractionSpot
      @AttractionSpot Месяц назад +3

      Yeah I 305 did have issues with that and I thought Millennium Force did too. On i-305 at least they used to I don't know if they still do they had water coolers in the station that would spray down the wheels to kind of cool them off.

    • @Tard129
      @Tard129 Месяц назад

      @@AttractionSpotI definitely saw the water sprayers last summer on I305. Didn’t see them turned on in Spring of this year tho so the wheels were probably not hot enough to need it.

    • @Miss_Phoenix_56
      @Miss_Phoenix_56 Месяц назад

      @@AttractionSpot Milly did have to have new wheels put on as they were being worn much faster than originally anticipated.

    • @AttractionSpot
      @AttractionSpot Месяц назад

      @@Miss_Phoenix_56 there was more wear then anticipated I heard. That's why it go rougher.

    • @fishels3895
      @fishels3895 Месяц назад

      Any shot it’ll be open for mid June. Man oh man I can’t believe the year I book a trip this happens

  • @MondoCoasters
    @MondoCoasters Месяц назад +118

    The amount of hatred being hurled at Zamperla's direction because of this closure is kinda overkill.
    Where was all this vitriol towards RMC and Intamin when SteVe's trains crashed in the station? Or when they had to rip Maverick's heartline roll out (sounds gory out of context lol)? Or when Shoot the Rapids almost drowned a bunch of people?
    These new rides always have teething issues of some kind when they first open, some more serious than others. To be fair, TT2's almost flawless opening was a bit too good to be true, considering how reliably it had operated before now, and how proactively they managed to diagnose this new issue before something more serious could happen.
    Ultimately, Zamperla seems to be handling this like champs, and once this issue is out of the way, there's a solid chance this reimagining can still end up being a net positive for the park.
    Frick you, doubters, I'm fully rooting for the underdog here. FORZA ZAMPERLA!

    • @brandoncrimmins6296
      @brandoncrimmins6296 Месяц назад +5

      The difference is those are ALL rides that were original designs NOT previously loved and adored rides that are being unbelievably molested. The whole entire point of TTD from the start was the launch. Without that insane launch. It’s an incredibly boring ride. Sure it’s tall, but that’s literally all it has without the launch.

    • @TylerEaves
      @TylerEaves Месяц назад +10

      I remember tons of people clowning on Intamin for Maverick at the time. Cedar Fair also hasn't bought an Intamin in a decade. That speaks volumes.

    • @SnowghostFilms
      @SnowghostFilms Месяц назад +10

      @@brandoncrimmins6296From every review I have seen of the ride, even by those who seriously doubted Zamperla, they did a great job and are OK with the original launch being gone. Many have even said they prefer TT2 to the original.

    • @brandoncrimmins6296
      @brandoncrimmins6296 Месяц назад +1

      @@SnowghostFilms Yes, because Cedar Point TOTALLY wants people to bash it, right? And more importantly. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. For me. It’s a total flop. I’ll just go to the cesspool of America for King Da Ka instead.
      *Edit* For the record… I don’t give a flying duck fart who built the ride. It could’ve been built by Jasper and Freb from the hills of Tennessee for all I care. I have absolutely nothing against Zamperla. My problem is with Cedar Point’s shameless use of the name instead of just building a new ride.

    • @SkyrushFanboy
      @SkyrushFanboy Месяц назад +4

      As someone who goes to Kennywood twice a week and looks at steel curtain, I'm an S&S hater because they've made so many problematic rides and can't even make a hyper correctly. Dododonpa, hypersonic, screaming squirrel, several flat rides, etc

  • @PrinceRoyceFan667
    @PrinceRoyceFan667 Месяц назад +92

    Rip the associate exclusive ride event on the 29th

    • @ElToroRyan
      @ElToroRyan  Месяц назад +34

      Ahhh sorry to hear. Hopefully it’s rescheduled!

    • @Spike-sk7ql
      @Spike-sk7ql Месяц назад +2

      Maybe ERT for coastermania too. Glad I rode it on media day, passholder preview, and a whole bunch of times opening weekend.

    • @owenfouts2494
      @owenfouts2494 Месяц назад

      ? I’m going to the park on the 29th, I had no idea this was happening

    • @Nsamity
      @Nsamity Месяц назад +1

      @@owenfouts2494damn bro that sucks. I doubt it’ll be open by then but hopefully I’m wrong.

    • @owenfouts2494
      @owenfouts2494 Месяц назад

      @@Nsamity yeah I had no idea the exclusive event was happening too!

  • @StamfordBridge
    @StamfordBridge Месяц назад +11

    They’re bringing in Dollywood engineers to change the launches into lift hills.

  • @joesmith6972
    @joesmith6972 Месяц назад +5

    Broke down after only a week. It's like having the old TTD back!

  • @blmn564
    @blmn564 Месяц назад +17

    This would also be a good opportunity to implement a better locker situation for TT2 than what's there currently

    • @haqqrasheed3115
      @haqqrasheed3115 Месяц назад

      I'll be going in a few weeks what's up with the locker system?

    • @spicytubaroll
      @spicytubaroll Месяц назад

      @@haqqrasheed3115the lockers aren’t free for the ride. I don’t know how much they are, but pretty crappy of them to charge people for a locker for a ride you’re probably only going to ride once. They are also insanely strict on loose articles, they will not let you on if you have any on you (they even have metal detectors set up). So you basically have no choice but to either pay for a locker, have someone who’s not riding it hold your stuff, or just not go on at all

    • @ryanmurray9810
      @ryanmurray9810 Месяц назад

      ​​@@haqqrasheed3115 if the ride is open all loose articles must be placed in a locker or non rider before you enter the que. There's metal detectors at the entrance to the ride to enforce this policy. Lockers are in the same location as before with the original ride. The lockers are not free.

    • @mylesmcarthur642
      @mylesmcarthur642 Месяц назад

      ​@@haqqrasheed3115 There are no free lockers, only paid ones, and a strict loose article policy enforced with metal detectors.

  • @mobeus5019
    @mobeus5019 Месяц назад +2

    I love the subtlety of not saying the information that you have heard to not spread rumors. Very nice touch.

  • @iamdigbick4675
    @iamdigbick4675 Месяц назад +17

    I've heard there's a problem with the seats. I've also heard there's a problem with the wheels. It's all speculation though. I do think the wheels make the most sense because a lot of new roller coasters go through growing pains with the wheels being eaten up too fast

    • @user-xi4ti4qf1z
      @user-xi4ti4qf1z Месяц назад

      yeah remember when ttd would melt the wheels to the track at some point

  • @ryanhorvath5606
    @ryanhorvath5606 Месяц назад +2

    The ride was amazing! I hope they get it right and I have full faith they will. I really hope people get a chance to ride it soon cuz it’s worth the wait

  • @AirplanesAndAirtime
    @AirplanesAndAirtime Месяц назад +23

    “Im not gonna say what part”
    The video: “wheel, wheel, wheel, wheel, holy crap… it’s a wheel”

  • @sleepdeep305
    @sleepdeep305 Месяц назад +4

    I've never been to CP while dragster was fully operational, but from what I saw on opening weekend, the cycle time for TT2 was pretty damn exceptional

    • @covertzebra
      @covertzebra Месяц назад

      Intamin is superior when it comes to Big boy rides

  • @SacredRealmOfficial
    @SacredRealmOfficial Месяц назад +2

    They did the right thing! They’re on top of it. It’s such an amazing coaster. Cracked my top 3

  • @peterclarke3166
    @peterclarke3166 Месяц назад +3

    Best and most respectful analysis of this current issue. Nice job Ryan.

  • @TheCoasterAdventure
    @TheCoasterAdventure Месяц назад +3

    Intamin has already developed and tested trains for their launch coasters that actually work. We could have gotten the same ride but actually open if Cedar Fair would drop their stupid grudge against them. Intamin now is very different than early 2000s Intamin.

    • @Coasterfan71
      @Coasterfan71 Месяц назад +3

      100%. I sure wish Cedar Point would have let Intamin rework TT2. Look at Kingda Ka, Pantheon, Formula Rossa, and Red Force. These are all proven rides. Intamin is way better now than they were back then.

  • @Historybluff1986
    @Historybluff1986 Месяц назад +1

    Almost skipped the preview event. Glad I made the time to ride. Now I don’t feel so bad about the downtime. But get well soon toppy.

  • @jahx8148
    @jahx8148 Месяц назад +17

    Bro, you might never see this, but I love your videos

  • @5MadMovieMakers
    @5MadMovieMakers Месяц назад +10

    But is Gemini open for the season yet

    • @scottycky
      @scottycky Месяц назад +1

      Just the red side

    • @baileyneedham169
      @baileyneedham169 Месяц назад +1

      Opened today

    • @mikewalker4950
      @mikewalker4950 Месяц назад

      @@baileyneedham169 UGH! I was watching it test all day yeasterday hooping it was open. We got TT2 9x on opening weekend so I wasn't bummed too much for us, but really felt bad for all the peeps coming for it. Spent the day getting some laps on SV, Magnum, and Maverick and doing some of the other rides that we try to hit 1 or 2x each season. Still had a good day but was a bummer that TT2 was down. Will have to get on gemini a few times in the next week or two.

    • @b-chroniumproductions3177
      @b-chroniumproductions3177 Месяц назад +2

      Both sides open today

  • @MichaelBerra
    @MichaelBerra Месяц назад +15

    Got it opening weekend for this exact reason

  • @imjerseyyy
    @imjerseyyy Месяц назад +1

    I’m going this upcoming weekend, of course knowing TT2 won’t be open, but I’ll come back later in the year with my season pass whenever it opens back up!

  • @matthewpeloza9249
    @matthewpeloza9249 Месяц назад +1

    Got my ride in first weekend. Happy I was so eager to get there fast.

  • @IntaminFanGRLPowerCoasters
    @IntaminFanGRLPowerCoasters Месяц назад +3

    I'm a huge Intamin fan and for the longest time I was ratting out Zamperla for "taking away the Intamin" from TTD. However, Zamperla actually made this ride pretty good so good job to them! I'm no longer going to be cold towards Zamperla.
    I mean, this is a new ride and a prototype. Intamin never gets their prototypes right, and I guess Zamperla doesn't either. But they will fix this issue with the wheels and get the ride up and running!!

  • @MichiganStance
    @MichiganStance Месяц назад +2

    Man, glad i got to ride it when i did, and hopefully it’s back up soon. It really is an absolutely unique experience and my brain to this day really still couldnt comprehend what happened. I only got to ride it once so some moments of the ride are blacked out, think that shows how good it is lol

    • @ifensler
      @ifensler Месяц назад +1

      Yeah, first couple times I ride was a blur. 3rd time was a lot more clear, still intense

  • @derpnowitzki1766
    @derpnowitzki1766 Месяц назад

    Ooooh Imma be in CP from the 15th-22. Hope I get to see you!

  • @baulzzzzzzz2278
    @baulzzzzzzz2278 Месяц назад +1

    I love how el Toro Ryan is straight to the point and I feel has enough insider info that I trust his reports good shit Ryan

  • @SilentGloves
    @SilentGloves Месяц назад +5

    I'm not going to say which part requires reengineering.
    *wheel and truck montage*
    😄

  • @RobertWeisert-su4gh
    @RobertWeisert-su4gh Месяц назад

    Last Monday (5/6) I was able to grab a pair of laps (both in the middle). My first ride was on the blue train and when we hit the top speed the train had a very noticeable vibration (something was a bit off). After close we got on the grey train and it didn't have any vibrations.
    Great ride, can't wait until it re-opens. I wasn't a big fan of TTD, but I do really love this ride!! Simply put it is fun as hell!!!

  • @rapunzel1701
    @rapunzel1701 Месяц назад +8

    $1 says somethings are wearing in an unexpected pattern indicating a higher than expected load.

    • @christopherfinch-mccollum1753
      @christopherfinch-mccollum1753 Месяц назад +2

      It most definitely doesn't have to do with the fact that the left side of the train has insane laterals down the drop compared to the right side...

    • @jaystarr6571
      @jaystarr6571 Месяц назад

      @@christopherfinch-mccollum1753 I noticed that too. Haven't rode it but I have seen it in the POV's. Especially compared to Kingda Ka which I have

    • @fishels3895
      @fishels3895 Месяц назад

      @@jaystarr6571what do you guys mean? How can that be fixed?

  • @summermazur3064
    @summermazur3064 Месяц назад +3

    I'm guessing it will be back up by CoasterMania, 6/7. My trip isn't until 7/31, so hopefully, it will be fixed by then!

  • @MechaMyth
    @MechaMyth Месяц назад

    Im so so so glad i rode it passholder preview on April 30th. I miss it and i hope it opens soon. Its so fun. And i felt so safe on it. Only rode blue train which i heard is the smoothest train

  • @driftplayz6336
    @driftplayz6336 Месяц назад +1

    You know its a good day when ETR uploads

  • @Huntbeck33
    @Huntbeck33 Месяц назад +11

    I expected this to happen, as a maintenance mechanic myself whenever there is a “new” design in the industry there’s always gonna be an issue that wasn’t expected in the engineering stage. Some things your not gonna tell if it’s flawed Intill it runs a bit. I’m sure they’ll get it fixed eventually.

    • @iitzfizz
      @iitzfizz Месяц назад +2

      Yeah it was bound to happen, this job was much more ambitious than anything they've done in the past

    • @chriskay1449
      @chriskay1449 Месяц назад +3

      Exactly, there are just some things you won't ba ble to notice until it is running full capacity with the wear and tear of daily operation. I'm sure they were monitoring and inspecting everything more closely the normal since it is new so this was likely caught before there was any real danger to the riders.

  • @Norweeg
    @Norweeg Месяц назад +2

    I was hoping with this re-imagining and reliability improvements they would be able to re-add the giant dragster wheels and wing on the back, so it would look like a top fuel car again from its early days. I’m excited to ride this new iteration someday, as I loved riding the first version.

    • @TylerEaves
      @TylerEaves Месяц назад +1

      it's themed to F1 now basically. Dragster isn't even in the name any more.

  • @homeboy_roy1570
    @homeboy_roy1570 Месяц назад +5

    In theory is never the same as in practice. Prototypes will be Prototypes

  • @RevNoch
    @RevNoch Месяц назад

    Damn it, I'm going to CP for the first time next week. TT2 was one of the big reasons I was pushing to go before schools let out for the summer.

  • @kd9lac803
    @kd9lac803 Месяц назад +1

    If it's the part you're alluding to, it's not uncommon. Millie and I-305 had the same issues. And when you've got a train pulling 5+ Gs at 120 miles an hour, I can see how that part could potentially have a ton of issues with reliability since they're making their world debut.

  • @CoasterGaming
    @CoasterGaming Месяц назад +1

    Have a trip booked for late next week. I’m doubtful it will be open, I’m getting a season pass so if it concerns me I can always go back

  • @djjoelley931
    @djjoelley931 Месяц назад +1

    Oh man fingers crossed it will open sooner than later as I am going there in early June.

    • @tdchris2002
      @tdchris2002 Месяц назад

      hate to be the bearer of bad news but from the sound of it, tt2 might be down until late july at the earliest and the rest of the season at the latest

  • @michaelsandy6963
    @michaelsandy6963 Месяц назад

    Just realized I got one of the last rides on it before it closed if it was closed all day on Saturday. I was on one of the last trains on Friday night 5/10. I remember seeing that the silver train was taken off the track at that point and they were only running two trains unlike earlier in the day. They closed the queue about 25 minutes before the park closing time apparently. People were waiting to get in line right before the park closed so that they could get a night ride but they didn't let them in. Probably just because the line was like an hour long still and they only had two trains running.

  • @Davidvariance
    @Davidvariance Месяц назад +2

    12 rides in, 9 on media day, including freezing cold temps, and this ride is a beast!

  • @ZZCoasters
    @ZZCoasters Месяц назад

    Do you think it will be ready for Coastermania, 6/7? Been planning to go to that since last year....

  • @randybrunner5513
    @randybrunner5513 Месяц назад

    It will be back soon and it was amazing!!! My first ride was in the silver train back row left side and this is the way this ride must be ridden! I didn't notice any rattling or shaking and going over the tophat had so much ejector airtime. We dove right into the heartline which was so much more intense and I ended up slamming into the dude sitting next to me. Black train front row right side was another amazing ride, but since I wear contacts and didn't have any glasses with a strap, the wind really dried my eyes out! And that's not a complaint but a compliment to the ferocity of this ride! We all just need to be patient again and trust that this ride will be back with a Super Vengeance!

  • @waynepoint
    @waynepoint Месяц назад +1

    This is an awsome ride! Got rides on preview days.
    Ithonk it will reopen in June.

  • @FryGuy909
    @FryGuy909 Месяц назад +2

    hoping that its up by july 22 since im going to CP for the first time that day.

  • @samuelitooooo
    @samuelitooooo Месяц назад

    I like all the close-ups of the huge wheels, including on the thumbnail

  • @scottmarks4734
    @scottmarks4734 Месяц назад +1

    Hopefully it’s just the wheels. I was concerned when the trains were revealed to be made of aluminum, which I can only presume is of one of the higher strength grades. My concern is with the fasteners being used on the trains. As an industrial maintenance technician I frequently see failures in aluminum bolt holes where steel bolts were used. Steel fasteners, if excessively torqued, will cause aluminum threads to fail. Corrosion between dissimilar metals is also a concern if the correct steel alloy is not used.

  • @DBI2000
    @DBI2000 Месяц назад

    😢😮 I really hope they fix it soon. I just hammered the date for my trip to CP probably June 3rd and or 4th. (Mon and tuesday)
    This ride was the whole point of going again (we went back in October 13th weekend during a virtual monsoon. Got good rides on sunday).

  • @andrewhawks1619
    @andrewhawks1619 Месяц назад

    In retrospect I’m glad that our trip this year that was supposed to be in Mid-July was delayed until next July. We moved it a year to see what this merger does, but now this on top of that.

  • @vol3ric748
    @vol3ric748 Месяц назад +1

    unfortunately could only go to this park on the 22-25 for memorial weekend so this is a big blow since I live in the Seattle area. guess ill have to look at 2026 for a revisit.

  • @Illbeatcedarpointonjune4and5
    @Illbeatcedarpointonjune4and5 Месяц назад +1

    I’m going on June 4 and 5 an I live 8 hours hour from cp. Lets pray that it will be open soon

  • @Zerobar78.
    @Zerobar78. Месяц назад

    Man I got lucky as I was there Friday and rode it twice, it was great.

  • @DBI2000
    @DBI2000 Месяц назад

    Btw thank you Ryan for making this. Was going to hit ttd2 on first week june along with 6flags jersey and hershey pa.
    How likely you think KingdaKa is to be operating? And you think its still a solid plan to hit 6flags on a friday or sunday?

  • @thee_jpp
    @thee_jpp Месяц назад

    Damn, rip to my trip 5/21 - 5/24. First time to the park, too 🥲

  • @patrickstrahm05
    @patrickstrahm05 Месяц назад +1

    I'm glad I hit it one of the preview days, so I didn't have to deal with this. The one caveat of being local. Did take some pictures though. not much video

  • @kevinkevinholt
    @kevinkevinholt Месяц назад

    I went on Friday just by sheer coincidence and got to ride it. Huge shock that it shut down the next day but so glad I got to try it out. It was incredible and definitely better than Top Thrill 1 was. It ran more efficiently as well, as others are saying. But I will say we noticed 2 things that stuck out as odd (and keep in mind my friends and I are nowhere near experts): (1) there looked to be a surprisingly large gap between the track sections at the interchange point i.e. where the track shifts from the station mode into the main straight track mode; it was large enough to the naked eye that I was surprised the wheels could handle going over it at the speed we were going. And (2) the train was very shaky especially at high speeds, in both directions. We felt like we were rattling back and forth (laterally) a lot more than expected and definitely more than the old version of the ride. It wasn't uncomfortable or painful like some jerky rides can be, it was just surprising and a little distracting, and some people would probably get pretty freaked out by it especially right at the bottom of the top hat going up (that's probably where I noticed it most). I wouldn't be surprised if that was the main symptom they're looking to address especially since they want the new ride to leave a good impression (and I assume a lack of smoothness would only get worse with time). Hope that helps!

    • @travisvanalst4698
      @travisvanalst4698 Месяц назад

      Definitely an opinion on it being better that TTD lol.

  • @6393dude
    @6393dude Месяц назад +2

    I'm going next week. Bumbed I probably won't be able to ride it, but hopefully some other people will reschedule so the park is empty.

    • @OofThatsNice
      @OofThatsNice Месяц назад

      Same here, going on Thursday for the first time since 2012. Flights already booked so now I'm just praying for low crowds at least

  • @jg88mash67
    @jg88mash67 Месяц назад +4

    Gosh dang. My trip is planned for May 28th. I'm coming all the way from FL!

    • @queenielouweekly3160
      @queenielouweekly3160 Месяц назад

      I'm going in on May 29th.

    • @DBI2000
      @DBI2000 Месяц назад

      You an d me both but June 3 or june4

    • @DBI2000
      @DBI2000 Месяц назад

      You and me both but june3, or June 4th

    • @fishels3895
      @fishels3895 Месяц назад

      Same but June 16

  • @billchief397
    @billchief397 Месяц назад

    I am predicting smaller wheel diameter possibly to 18 inches to help avoid rattle. I heard some say that was noticeable also the large wheel diameter may had have stress from an observationbstand point

  • @AirplanesAndAirtime
    @AirplanesAndAirtime Месяц назад

    I’m going mid august… should I be good?

  • @newenglandcoastershots
    @newenglandcoastershots Месяц назад

    Yep was leaving for my first CP visit ever thurs to ride it.
    Big sad

  • @Garthanicus
    @Garthanicus Месяц назад

    Just makes me realize how lucky I was to ride it twice on the 10th for my first ever visit to Cedar Point. I hope they get it running soon. Can't imagine how I would've felt if I travelled from LA just to be met with this

  • @jaystarr6571
    @jaystarr6571 Месяц назад +2

    Zamperla has to re-re-imagine it *_AGAIN!_*

  • @elchristianez_
    @elchristianez_ Месяц назад

    I considered heading to CP for my 30th bday on the 11th just to check out TT2. Happy I didn't end up doing that

  • @Nelkity
    @Nelkity Месяц назад +4

    Is that an optical illuison at 1:59? Looks the lead wheel cant stay on the track during the turn?

    • @Bnizzofashizzo
      @Bnizzofashizzo Месяц назад +1

      No more weed for you

    • @wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037
      @wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037 Месяц назад

      Yeah it has a rattle. I'd say that's why

    • @Zatore_
      @Zatore_ Месяц назад

      The wheel doesn't leave the track, it does ride out of the groove for a second though. This probably isn't an issue as its just during the tighter curve of the transfer track. None of the other curves on the track are that tight. It may be interesting to see if a ware pattern emerges, but we probably wont know even if it does considering how often the wheels are replaced.

  • @shadowman172005
    @shadowman172005 Месяц назад +1

    I said this on another page that I was worried about those trains and wheels. A few weeks later it seems like I was right.

  • @ParasocialCatgirl
    @ParasocialCatgirl Месяц назад

    Didnt even realise that it had opened!

  • @aidand5941
    @aidand5941 Месяц назад

    Got lucky enough to get a ride on it the Friday before it closed.

  • @Reereev
    @Reereev Месяц назад

    I use to love going to Cedar point and my favorite ride was the Dragster. But know that it’s gone because of an injury to a person standing in line to ride it, I am terrified to ride any amusement park rides now. They are too dangerous!

  • @IRDeady
    @IRDeady Месяц назад

    Man, I've been trying to ride that thing since it first opened. Granted, I didn't visit too many times before the final closure of TTD, but still, I've been to the park like 70+ times and every time that thing has been down. This year a moved about 4 hours away and was thinking of trying to get up there in like 2 weeks. I'm sure it will be fixed, but 20 years is a stupid long time to want to do something and just constantly be unable to.

    • @AttractionSpot
      @AttractionSpot Месяц назад

      Wow 70+ times!
      Maybe you need to go opening day? I've only been like three or four times to Cedar Point but it's always been opening weekend and the ride is always been running for me hehe.

  • @4ndromediaGD
    @4ndromediaGD Месяц назад

    my school is going to cedar point the second to last day of school in june 4th, i hope it’s open soon

  • @v10-ACR-E
    @v10-ACR-E Месяц назад +10

    Well I guess you could say it’s a Half-New. Half-New is just something I said because it’s pretty much the original track with extensions.

    • @chriskay1449
      @chriskay1449 Месяц назад +2

      The only original track is the top hat. Everything else was replaced.

  • @jeffbizie
    @jeffbizie Месяц назад

    Well ill be waiting to headout there till its fixed sndtested and reliable...not chancing it on the only trip there this year

  • @The_LaughingHyena
    @The_LaughingHyena Месяц назад +3

    It's to be expected, honestly, they probably knew the part in question may be the weak link but needed more data like getting run to the public. Probably nipping a future catastrophe now rather than later.

    • @brandoncrimmins6296
      @brandoncrimmins6296 Месяц назад

      If that were at all true… They would already have a solution…

    • @The_LaughingHyena
      @The_LaughingHyena Месяц назад

      @@brandoncrimmins6296 Engineering and manufacturing practice may have become very efficient, but they aren't that efficient. Especially not June efficient if it is a "new" problem. If it were a new problem, ride would be closed a year or more.

    • @brandoncrimmins6296
      @brandoncrimmins6296 Месяц назад

      @@The_LaughingHyena We have no idea how long it’s gonna be down. That is the definition of “indefinitely”. But YOU said it was probably something they already knew about. And if that were true. First of all that is grounds for one of the most lucrative lawsuits of all time. But also… They have a heavily upgraded part already designed to fix it. This is definitely an unexpected issue. I congratulate them for getting on it so quick. But also acknowledge both the irony and hilarity of the fact that it was open less than a week and is already closed indefinitely.

  • @FlyRick78
    @FlyRick78 Месяц назад +1

    This is the first deployment of the Lightning trains and reality is no amount of simulation is the real world. Zamperla and CP have been monitoring everything closely and likely found excessive wear. It likely could have allowed the trains to keep running but there is no reason to run any risk. Update the trains, test them, and then let it run for years. It happens but Zamperla and CP are operating under an abundance of caution.

  • @FrickenChicken28
    @FrickenChicken28 Месяц назад

    Ryan, This sucks because I planned a trip across America and I was going to ride that ride. Since its closed I don't think i will ever get to ride it.

  • @stephenlee1664
    @stephenlee1664 Месяц назад +1

    I went on sunday hyped as heck to ride this coaster only to be met with the sign that says it's closed. Now I have to wait all the way until August to ride this coaster. Safe to say I was absolutely livid since I basically wasted my one trip to Cedar Point this summer. I hope this doesn't continue to be a issue until August, but i'm not exactly optimistic about dragster due to its reputation and the fact that this is an experimental coaster and the first time Zamperla has done anything of this scale.

    • @sleepdeep305
      @sleepdeep305 Месяц назад

      Cry about it. The last opportunity I had to go to Universal was the one year they didn't have either DD or Hagrid's.

  • @steveo7771286
    @steveo7771286 Месяц назад +1

    This is far from the first coaster to experience opening year closures for this exact “undisclosed” reason. Lol. It’ll be back up soon enough.

  • @MichiganStance
    @MichiganStance Месяц назад

    TT2 ‘broke down’ twice while i was there opening weekend, all it did was after its initial launch the LSM’s stopped making contact with the train or something because the trains would go straight about halfway to the first hill, then they’d have to reverse it backwards and launch it again. Happened twice and each time it happened it took like 20 mins to get back on track. It was Interesting i don’t know what it could’ve been.

  • @tahjo7
    @tahjo7 Месяц назад

    The giant bogey wheels were my favorite part of the trains, hopefully it returns just as stylish as V.1

  • @A.R.T.3
    @A.R.T.3 Месяц назад +2

    I swear to god if that damn thing is closed when I'm there on June 4th I'm going to be livid

    • @Coasterfan71
      @Coasterfan71 Месяц назад +1

      I’m supposed to be going June 3rd and 4th but may have to rearranged plans to go either end of June or middle of July if TT2 isn’t running. I’ll be making a 13 hour drive so there’s no way I’m going unless Top Thrill is operating.

    • @fishels3895
      @fishels3895 Месяц назад +1

      @@Coasterfan71ur lucky to be driving if I have to reschedule the airline tickets are insane right now

    • @fishels3895
      @fishels3895 Месяц назад

      @@Coasterfan71have you already booked a room?

    • @Coasterfan71
      @Coasterfan71 Месяц назад

      @@fishels3895 Yes. I’ve already booked a hotel room, have a car rental set up, bought my cedar point tickets and fast lane plus passes online. I can move the dates if need be. My dates to be at Cedar Point are June 3rd and 4th but I’ll go at a later date if TT2 is still down. I hope Cedar Point can at least come out and say something within the next week or so about when they think this ride will be back open. People have made plans to go this summer for this ride and people need to at least know a timeframe on when this might be up and running again. What about you? You still planning on going?

    • @huddyr1112
      @huddyr1112 Месяц назад

      The beginning of June is probably pretty doubtful but we're all hoping for the best!!! on another note all the airplane tickets I purchase are changeable until the day of travel, I would look into that

  • @bbbbbb111
    @bbbbbb111 Месяц назад +1

    I think the new trains look very delicate. In principle there is nothing wrong with it, because less weight means less energy consumption and less strain on the drive and other components. But the trains should of course be able to withstand the loads that occur over the long term. This seems to be the problem. Let's hope that Zamperla can solve the problem without massively increasing the weight of the trains. Otherwise, other components such as the LAM drive would also have to be realigned to the higher weight, which would require additional time and money.

  • @giomaster2329
    @giomaster2329 Месяц назад +1

    I mean it’s basically doing 100+ mph for more than double the amount of time ttd was. & then straight into the next dispatch. They need wheels that can handle the summer heat + going that fast all day

  • @The_Rollercoaster_Expert
    @The_Rollercoaster_Expert Месяц назад

    Wow. That is strange 😕. I hope this reimagination isn’t another failure!

  • @MegaBrokenstar
    @MegaBrokenstar Месяц назад +5

    I’m thinking the high positive G loads, especially on the reverse ascent into the vertical spike, were putting more compressive load on the treads than they could handle. The treads became crushed and the loss of tread thickness accounts for a vertical rattle due to resulting play between the running wheels and upstops that would appear as riders’ reports of increasing roughness over time. They’re having to replace the treads with ones made out of a more durable material, but they need to carefully account for the resulting change in rolling resistance between the wheels and the rails and recalibrate the induction motors. That’s a software change, but it still requires testing to get it right and make sure it’s working.

  • @jeffbizie
    @jeffbizie Месяц назад +2

    Pretty sad it made it less than 10 days running allday...oh well..hope they get it right soon

  • @dextermorgan1
    @dextermorgan1 Месяц назад +3

    Oh, yeah. The employees at Zamperla are burning the midnight oil to get this issue fixed.

  • @comicman3173
    @comicman3173 Месяц назад

    I was signed up for the Media Day, but something popped up that I couldn’t go. I now fully regret not going

  • @aleksthevoyager1260
    @aleksthevoyager1260 Месяц назад

    Do you think the redesigned part might also make the ride smoother or rougher or do you expect it would be the same as how it is now?

  • @christiwright3604
    @christiwright3604 Месяц назад

    I saw it yesterday and thought the wheels might be an issue. I love how zamperla tried something new with wheels. I think intamin had an idea that would happen. Kudos to Zamperla for trying something new. My hope is that this will become a design positive for them later down the line. The best inventions and innovations have problems.

  • @Sonic-gy7kq
    @Sonic-gy7kq Месяц назад +1

    RMC, S&S, and most other not as well established (as so as B&M or Intamin) build prototype track in-house on their property to test trains and stuff for this type of stuff. Zamperla was like "Yeah we'll figure this out as we go". CP even name dropped them to so the people upset would go blame Zamperla's social media instead of CP's💀😭

  • @bigblueamusementproductions
    @bigblueamusementproductions Месяц назад +1

    Those who remember correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the original Dragster have to shut down not too long after opening and didn't reopen until around July 4th in 2003? Hopefully we aren't witnessing history repeat itself as that would really hurt attendance as people are mainly coming this year to ride it.

  • @tobynormoyle637
    @tobynormoyle637 Месяц назад

    I hope they fix the restraint check in the software so they do not need to be opened between the unload and load stations.
    It was not a bad ride, silver train was the best in my rides. I prefer the original, but this is a fun update. If you ride in the very front seat the third launch feels almost like the original, and the very back makes the spike a lot of fun.