Top Thrill 2-an HONEST review.
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Was present for the Top Thrill 2 Charity preview event and wanted to share my HONEST thoughts about the ride.
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Can you imagine someone being completely oblivious that the ride was redone and doesn't realize what's going on because they think they're riding top thrill one? I know someone's going to do it. 😅. And once went on a flat ride and didn't realize it went upside down until the ride started so I could see someone doing something like that.
You can hardly miss a 400ft spike
You can’t help see the rides before you while waiting. I was thinking it would have been cool if they could hide it so people would be surprised their first ride, but it’s a heck of a think to hide.
i’m sure there will be thousands of ppl who do this
@@johanlenox btw can I just nerd out for a second about you showing up in my comment section? 😂
STOP WHINING
Great video! Glad to see you uploading again!
Thank you so much! Gonna try to keep the uploads coming more frequently.
What were your thoughts about comfort of the restraints? Especially vs previous Intamin trains.
The lightning train restraints are really similar to the Intamin ones on Pantheon and Velocicoaster. Pretty comfortable.
They honesty should have a phone bin just for that only. There are ankle wallets to wear under socks for id and cards
My concern with that is how much it could slow down dispatches, but I know what you mean. It's gonna really suck having to leave everything behind and just stand around watching commericals on their TVs for 2 hours.
@KICoasterGuy omg.....that is hell... as an introvert ha. But this may be a good thing....let be kind open up and chat. Hugs all
@@billchief397 but what am I going to pretend to be doing something on when there’s an awkward silence?😂😂😂
@KICoasterGuy right I get anxiety thinking about it lol!!!
When you fear the line wait more than the ride itself ha ha
@KICoasterGuy my luck is I get a kid like in a Christmas story the mall Santa wait line part who will quiz me about the wizard of oz anything lol!!!
To the people complaining that the 120 launch is gone. Just be grateful this ride isn’t dead. I’d rather it be different than not be here at all
Yeah you still do get (according to the park) a 120 mph launch in that final one, but it’s not the same. Like I said in the video though, I think the trade off is completely worth it. It definitely won’t please everyone, but I think a lot of people will find TT2 to be the better ride.
Agreed. The lack of reliability on the hydraulic launch was a death sentence for the original. Instead of tearing the entire thing out, Cedar Fair refurbished it. 😊
@@kentslocum and thankfully it’s a very very good ride.
Is there an unlimited version of the fast lane that I can experience TT2 as many times as I want?
Just all season fastlane for this year. I’d imagine after this year the daily will work like it normally does.
Is there a weight limit for this? I want to visit soon, but I'm on the heavier side 5'5 and around 250
I’m not aware of a specific weight limit, it’s more going to come down to whether or not you can verify in the restraints. They do have a test seat though so you’ll be able to check to make sure before you go through the line. Hope this helps!
@@KICoasterGuy thank you.
@@Ascension1004 of course!
how do you think the top hat is gonna feel when it's hot outside? I really hope this thing is reliable
Oh wow yeah it might be even more intense when its hotter lol. As for the reliability, it's looking pretty good on that front so far, but yeah we'll have to see if that holds up.
It is so incredible at night. My first 2 rides were "night rides" before sunrise. My next 3 were sunrise rides. Those are memories I'll never forget.
If you consider queue length and dispatches, the line moves. I see them in the future adding queue/switchback, even temporary, before the lockers. Like a hybrid Steel Vengeance where lockers aren't buried in the structure.
And lastly, I call the ejector "air-whip-time", the same reason as you mentioned plus the higher center of gravity on these trains, which also enhances that intamin shimmy in the track you mentioned, something that I always felt was there with the original.
My reference point is 8 rides on the original, 10 rides on this, 9 of which were in 30-55 degree weather. Huge home run for CP and Zamperla.
I'd love to see how much of a rattle or shimmy there is on a ground up Zamperla because the Zamperla track and structure is way less flexible than the original.
Okay that is really the end of my comment 😂
Always appreciate your input! Thanks for watching!
Also: "air-whip time" I love it lol. That's such a good way to put it.
Yeah, but I do miss the original as I did ride it back in 2010. And man, hearing the motor rumbling, the announcer saying, "Arms Down! Head Back, And Hold On!" And at the very end of it, not many people know this but, there used to be a small building where it hid a speedometer near the tall 420 feet structure of the ride of how fast the train was going (heck, I've see the speedometer have the train go as fast a 124 miles per hour, while other times, nearly 118 miles per hour, giving viewers a good guess if the train was going to make it over or not, or the 1 percent rare case of getting stuck at the top of the coaster....plus you can't beat the fake wheels and fin on the back of the coaster, as well as the promo trailer/music form the first one. that was such a cool way to personalize the coasters, and the trailer for Top Thrill Dragster back in 2002/2003 in my opinion, is waaaay cooler and more exciting, compared to trailers nowadays. Nowadays, they feel corporate, vanilla, and not as exciting to look or ride as they used to back in the 2000s and before....And now, with Top Thrill Dragster 2/Top Thrill 2, I feel like as if there's so much white paint on the track, that it looks too similar to other coasters whom have used the red/white color scheme for the coaster, say Viper from Magic Mountain, Great American Scream Machine (Defunct now that was at Six Flags Great Adventure), and Formula Rossa at Saudi Arabia's Ferrari World....I don't know that's just me).
If I ever do visit Cedar Point again, I'll give it a go. But it's always the launches and getting to the very top of the hills that are always the most exciting for me. The back structure of it is not really my favorite, limits the ability to see where you are in your surroundings but whatever.
@@SuperFlashDriver its a combination of longing for nostalgia and ignorance to the current experience (not just the ride experience).. I was 1%er as you mentioned, 17 years ago. You ought to give it a try before investing your opinion so much in holding one iteration superior to the other.
Don't judge something you haven't experienced, and don't waste time trying to compare if you know anything about sensory memory and recency bias. All you're doing is, at best, the same thing that human beings do to make someone feel like they're missing out on trying a drug. It's not advantageous to you or anyone else.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but your opinion lacks the necessary background for it to differentiate from riders of the new iteration. No one isn't going to miss anything about the original except downtime.
@@Davidvariance It's not really nostalgia, it's merely just by looking at it that I've seen many other coasters see the same thing. I don't know man, it's the aesthetics of the original that gave it a lot of character, and my drawn character is the interpretation of what it stood for. So for this one, it's merely just racing in general, and not just dragsters. I don't know, again, I'll have to give it a go, but it'll always be the launches and the top part of the hill that I always like. (Sighs) I don't miss it because I can always watch old videos of the ride if needed to and experience it that way.
I mean, coming from a person that's loved building roller coasters since I was 5, and riding them since I was 14, Cedar Point would be the final park that I would enjoy up that I feel other theme parks can't compare. But again, that's just me. It'll be pretty difficult to convince me that this is a better ride than the original, I'm just saying.
Planning on heading here next year so I’ll be experiencing this
Nice! Let me know what you think!
7:45 Why does the negative space in the *R* look like one of the Six Flags flags? some kind of _easter egg?_
🤣🤣🤣
This video was well edited. Also, I’m really happy to see the que is as covered as it is
Thank you my friend! Yes I was also quite happy to see the queue covered. There is just too much exposed queue in that park so I’m so happy to see them so this.
The biggest issue with the loose article policies is that every coaster is different. Can’t blame people for not knowing that they can bring stuffed animals onto iron dragon but can’t bring anything at all into tt2, while having to leave only shoes in the bins on valravn yet anything can go in the bins on maverick. Head spins just thinking about it and I go all the time.
Yeah at Kings Island Banshee opened 10 years ago and you still have people constantly being turned away at the entrance for having bags/fanny packs etc. You’ve hit the nail on the head because most people don’t go all the time like we do, they aren’t thinking about this stuff on the way to the park.
I would hope that people would understand you shouldn't bring anything that could fall out of your pockets or off your face or body on a roller coaster that goes 120 mph
@@whenisdinner2137 totally that’s not at all the issue. Loose articles should not be kept on this ride, 100%. My issues with this policy are as follows:
A.) a ride with a loose article policy this restrictive (they specifically mention items like chap stick that shouldn’t be kept in pockets, even if they are secured with a zipper) should provide a free locker option just like SV in the same park.
B.) not providing bins or something for people wearing shoes without a back is going to cause a lot of problems. Normally in cases like this (Banshee, Raptor) you can take off your slides or whatever, but not this ride. People are going to be stopped at that entrance for wearing the wrong shoes for years
6:13 that's my loyal hubby in the third row of the bleachers waiting for me to ride :D Great review! I wholeheartedly agree that TT2 offers an array of amazing moments throughout the ride; it's hard to choose the best one. Stay revved up! ~Blair
i think if they figured out how to do some kind of bin transportation system like on Yukon Striker at Canada's Wonderland, that could potentially solve the loose article policy problem!
Would be very cool.
With the location of the track, this seems like it will be the only possible solution
I had my concerns about the shaking, but glad to hear it didn't ruin the ride for you. It definitely seems to go fast over that top hat too. So even with the weaker launch, this does sound like they pulled it off. I think I'll be there next week to find out myself.
Kingda Ka shakes much much worse than this or than Dragster ever originally did. But Kingda Ka’s launch track is much higher off the ground than Dragster,and has taller vertical supports with no lateral supports. So Dragster’s shaking to me was always just a shimmy compared to Kingda Ka going that fast.
The rattle will only get worse.
Yeah I definitely didn't think it was all that bad, but it is there. Interested to hear what you think of it after you ride.
@@frankthecat1660 I noticed the shake was worse on the two brand new trains where the wheels were still flat and not worn-in. The silver train that was clearly run more often and the wheels were worn into a rounded shape it had less shake.
@@mikesnyder8362 won't matter as the years go on, that rattle will get bad.
It's funny that most people doubted Zamperla on this massive project and now it's all about CP not providing lockers😂 Of course TT2 is designed to accommodate the GP but most people who desire the experience don't care about lockers
I don’t agree with this. If anything the current policy is going to blindside the GP more than anyone. You can’t take ANYTHING with you on this ride. Essentially everyone is carrying something on them be it their phone, wallet, car keys, whatever. People are going to get stopped before that ride entrance and be pissed they have to go buy a locker to ride. That’s not to even mention the people that are going to show up wearing athletic slides only to be told they just can’t ride TT2 at all unless they have a change of shoes.
Use a conveyor belt as you are boarding the train. Time it in pacing with the ride circuit time. When the ride is over, your belongings will be right there. May be a nightmare during breakdowns though.
Needs to be harder acceleration to get near top on first run so rollback bigger.
The rollback in real life is bigger than the animation. It goes a good 20 to 30 feet higher than the animation shows
It also seems to go way further up the spike. They really made it seem as tame as possible before. Weird.
I just don't understand why huge attraction rides can't be "take a number" systems. Once the park's app knows you're at the park you can "register" a ride. It then gives you a show up at the line time. They ask you to get in line 15 mins before your ride. Your time keeps getting updated as unforeseen delays happen throughout the day. This a) forces you to have their app and b) makes the locker issue no longer a thing as only 15mins worth of riders will need to use them. This also helps the park keep guests roaming around the park where they might buy stuff. Everyone in line is a "stale" customer.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see virtual queues like this at CP over time. Especially now with the merger since I think Six Flags had already been kind of messing with this system, hadn’t they?
@@KICoasterGuynot exactly but with the six flags flash pass they can adjust time to queue depending on overall wait, so I think it's prolly possible, but no idea how to implement for just regular riders. Would need some investment to implement for the masses, but would be awesome for guest experience. No one is clamoring to queue up for hours with no distractions other than queue TVs, strangers, and your mind. I know we did it in the 90s, but I think we can agree, it's so much better now. pocket computers make wait times just the side quest 😆
do you really get ejector air at the top? :O
You do. You get flung over that thing so you’re pretty much out of your seat the whole time while going over it.
@@KICoasterGuy And that for me is worth the upgrade! Airtime at that height!? 🤩
Look up the loose articles storage solution for Yukon Striker at Canada's Wonderland, which carts items from the load side to the unload side via a conveyance system. That could work here.
Oh yeah I’m aware and thought about it! TBH I’m not entirely sure how they would make that work here but I’m sure it’s possible.
If you had to pick for your last ever ride, would you pick Steel Vengeance or Top Thrill 2?
Tall lanky fof
Like last ever ride for the rest of my life?! lol
@@KICoasterGuy yeah or which one do you like more? Is Steel Vengeance still #1 at Cedar Point/in Ohio
@@hamybuck haha that takes some of the pressure off. I think SV is still probably the best coaster in the park. Id consider this one a strong top 3 contender.
Falcons Flight...when it opens.
How does the feeling of the first launch compare with the feeling of Maverick’s second launch?
I think I’d still put Mavs second launch above it, I just think that’s a really frickin good launch. The difference isn’t quite as big as I expected though.
They could do a Canadas Wonderland style - bin system that moves from entrance to exit. They retrofitted it to Guardian so it is possible after the fact.
I thought about this also. No idea whether they would or not but it’s about the only thing I could see them doing, aside from just closing off the back entrance to the TT2 lockers so you have to enter through the portal to get to them, and making them free. Glad it’s not my job to figure it out though lol
As a young enthusiast, I'm happy that my mom doesn't like the coasters too much so I can ride top thrill 2 and leave all of my stuff with her instead of paying for lockers.
Haha that works!
@@KICoasterGuy Yeah it's really nice.
They can build the queue further outside the ride by lockers to make them free.
I think what they’ll do if they end up making these free is block out the back entrance to the TT2 lockers so you have to enter the portal area in order to use them, but who knows
I have all season fast lane and plan on absolutely marathoning when I go in a few weeks.
you are an asshole and holding up the regular line for doing this
Have fun!
Atleast they are letting us know ahead of time and not showing up and finding out when you get there
Yeah I just hope they can get the word out enough so people aren’t blindsided. Lots of people who are going to be coming to cedar point are still unaware I’m sure.
I think they will/must find a way to incorporate the double sided lockers into the queue, even if it means you have to exit the ride and walk back down to the entrance section to retrieve your things (in that area where the blue maintenance building is)...that's essentially what you have to do at Steel Vengeance, although admittedly it's not as far of a walk as this would be. I just can't imagine this not being near the top of the list for them to address as they work through all the kinks.
So what I’ve been thinking is they could take the current lockers that are paid, wall off the area towards to back of them so you can’t get to them from there, and make those lockers free. You have to go through the entrance portal to get to them, and it just seems like the best solution but yeah there are probably other ways. It just looks like it won’t be easy.
@@KICoasterGuy yeah, I'm sure they would have preferred to know this and plan for it when they were tearing up the whole area already!
Honestly looks amazing can't wait. As long as the reliability has improved I think it's a winner. I always said I hated how short TTD was and now we get that extra element with he spike. Now as for the first launch would you say it's comparable to Maverick?
I’ve been thinking about that and without getting to ride Mav again that day it’s hard to say? I wanna say I think the Mav launch is better, but I don’t think it’s a super wide gulf.
I've been saying the same thing about the lockers. they're screwed without massive rebuilding
They re-imagined the que line experience.
Solid vid
Thanks!
I miss the hand stamps, but they were free so of course they were scrapped lol
The hand stamps worsened the queue time
It's been re-imagined.
I was in the back row and there was no rattle. TT2 was my 700th coaster and blew away my expectations. Zamperla hit a home run and can definitely compete with the big boys!
They definitely did!
shoutout pineapple ricky!!
lol I’m sorry I’m just so curious. Can I get context on this?
Having to pay for an additional fast track when youve already spent a small fortune on fast track really is big corporations squeezing every cent out of us. Love Cedar Fair parks and its great TTD was given a new lease of life, but that leaves a sour taste for sure
I wonder if they've stressed tested the ride yet. That is simulate it running at max capacity all day long.
It’s been through a lot of testing to get to this point, but to that extent I’m not sure.
I wish it was 100-110-120 on the launch speeds
Watching videos of this, it looks really rough especially going backwards. Am I wrong?
I noticed it more during the last launch on going towards the brake run.
I predict Cedar Fair eventually slows down the third launch to minimize the stress on the train going over the top hat after the initial hype of the "re-imagining" subsides.
Yeah dollywood did that with the lightning rod launch
@@mainframe1608 To be fair Lightning Rod had crazy reliability issues because of the launch, so slowing it down in that case might have been a means to try and improve reliability by making it not have to launch as quickly. Considering the MANY changes that ride went through to try and make the ride more reliable (before giving up on it and removing it for a fast lift hill), slowing down the launch feels like one of the changes to try and make the ride more reliable. The slowed down launch was the least of the problems with Lightning Rod if we're being honest here.
Top Thrill 2 doesn't seem to have any major reliability issues so far, which considering how that was a frequent issue back when it was Dragster is a good thing. So it might not get slowed down, or if it does by not as much.
That's like saying they'll add trims throughout Steel Vengeance...
Look at footage from TTD's media day and you'll see it going over the top hat as fast as it does now. By the end of 2003 they had extended the trains to 5 cars and slowed the speed down to a slow creep over the top.
KK was probably built to go fast over the top to avoid rollbacks, as the drop has trims to limit the forces. But it goes over slowly like TTD did and has rumored to never hit 128 mph besides initial test runs.
What’s the footwear rule?
I should have clarified this in the video. Basically any shoe you wear has to have a back so no sandals or slides.
Wait you can't take your phone with you in the line??
No unfortunately you have to leave it in a locker before entering the queue. The lockers are outside the ride and there are metal detectors right outside the entrance.
TT2 seems to build on some of the things I liked about TTD other than the launch.
I always wish you took the Top Hat faster, I always wished a rollback was customary, and I always wished the ride was longer
TT2 does all this while maintaining the spirit of the original
Spot on
I wear flip flops all the time... but NEVER when I go to an amusement park.
Totally and it's definitely not the appropriate footwear to be walking around for miles in, but a lot of people (especially younger people) aren't worried about that. There will ABSOLUTELY be people wearing slides/flip flops to the park that are going to be upset that they can't ride. The vast majority of people who are going to hit CP this year probably aren't aware of this yet.
So if you cant have virtually any personal belongings on you how are you suppose to buy your on-ride photo if you have to walk all the way back to the lockers to get your wallet?
They have it so you can get a little qr code card so you can get all your pics later.
I'm using an ankle wallet next year when I go...but doesn't solve the cell phone aka..my wallet, id, e tickets and all that... I do hope they solve the bin thing. This year will be a good test to see how it plays into next year. Original top was great but this looks much better improvement!
for that situation, ge this cedar point what if you put the refular loose article bins/cubbies, where if your worried about saftey slab a door that Locks for the other trains and problem solved, too worried again just have ops make sure all guests put all loose articles in the bin and problem solved in a way better way
My only concern with this is how it will affect queue times, but I get what you're saying.
Big opportunity for the sale of Sudoku pages and crayons.
Brilliant lol
Multiple launches are so 2001. I just wish they would have improved the hydraulic launch system.
Hydraulic launches are incredible, but I think they’re going to become more and more rare.
@@KICoasterGuy only because rich guys want to keep their money. The coaster wars are over.
To everyone concerned about the first launch............ It's faster than steel vengeance! 🤦
It's not as forceful................. Only the first launch. Everything else is pure adrenaline inducing. Airtime galore! Getting ejector air 420' off the ground is never what one would call weak. 😱
huh? SV doesn't have a launch.
"My honest review, for top thrill 2" That rhymed, lol
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I'll say this, as a complainer about the lack of "Just building it with lockers from the start" the loose article policy is gormless and stupid. Especially when some bins could be made or basically any other solution that could have easily been planned from the start in the case of a moderate to strict loose article policy, especially post-accident
During media day, people had earrings, clip-on mics, single-ear in ears, etc. but i can't have a ziploc bag of my stuff in a zipped-closed pocket? Yeah, fight me CF.
They're basically charging for the OTU fast pass and lockers to earn as much money as possible before backlash forces them to do away with it in favor of a better solution. Maverick is more intense with a less-strict policy and uses just good old bins in the station with a similar load/unload setup
Heck, SteVen couldn't beat walmart velcro pockets with a ziploc in them and the hoodies we wore had LEDs with a AA battery pack and it couldn't take that out of the pockets. but now it ALSO has in-queue lockers.
Oh I’m with you I think they should have built them from the start. I think the reason they don’t allow people to keep things in zipper pockets though isn’t because the don’t trust the zippers not to fail, it’s because if someone leaves the zipper open by accident and a passerby gets hit with something, it’s their ass.
FlightOfTaylor spotted at 6:45???
FOFF??!?!?!!!!!!???
@@KICoasterGuyFOFFFFF
Can’t wait for this to win the golden ticket award for best new rollercoaster over the two massive Mack’s in Europe. 🙄
Yeah I have no idea what those crazy people are going to do. All I know is this is a good ride, it’ll be years before I ride the others you mentioned lol.
I saw someone say that the queue would get more theming later.
I just heard that a couple hours ago. I really hope that's true! (again not that it's that big of a deal).
So I guess you like Top Thrill 2 a little more than you liked Top Thrill Dragster?
I do!
its way better than the original
You guys are making me more and more confident in that take. Wasn’t sure how hot it was lol.
I guess it helps that I’m a guy but I barely have anything I need to put in a lockers anyway. I have seen people be completely blindsided by the policies. I’ve always wondered why cedar fair hasn’t come up with better solutions just seems like a money grab.
Yeah it’s an unfortunate situation. On this ride I think it’s going to affect most people regardless. You can’t take ANYTHING. Not your wallet, car keys, chap stick whatever.
I'm excited about single use fast lane!! I hope they convert to that. It would help to keep the standby line down. It would make fast Lane experiences accessible to more people.
They're really expensive though. You're definitely better off buying the all day version.
it would keep the 'Stand-by' lines down if they got rid of Fast Lane completely. F_L is basically just paying to line-jump. imho
I quit going, mostly because, I can't stand or walk that long. And, I am too big now. The one that that really ruined it for me, is the FAST PASS. People paying money to jump line ahead of non payers, I think that's a complete slap in the face. So I refuse to go. Sorry but, I paid to get into the park, I should not have to wait behind those who paid more. That's wrong. Also, not being able to take things into line. How are they going to regulate that? Not me, I do what I want, sorry no.
Fair enough. I’m not really the biggest fan of the fastlane system either.
They'll fix all these problems in 20 years
with TT3 😁
Oh god I hope it doesn’t come to that lol
I don't know why everyone brings up the rollback, especially Park people. That is not the rollback we wanted. The rollback we wanted makes is to or near the top of the track. This one looks like its the height of a rollback on Pantheon at best
I think about that every time someone mentions the rollback for TT2. I feel like Tony Clark tried to over selling it by referring to it as if it were anything close to the rare full-scale rollbacks that TTD used to have.
Agree…it’s hard to call it a rollback when it barely even goes up or gets vertical…if the first launch was 90 and u went closer to 300ft on it, this ride would have been an A+. Also ride policies (especially loose articles policy) is going to kill the rides good publicity. Glad I’m going Thursday, not sure if I’ll ride it if I have to pay to ride( pay for a locker for my phone). CP is so greedy! Can’t they do it right like Disney/universal and just have free lockers?! 😅🤔
@@LittlePotatoRoll Yeah, its a nice extra, but I hate every time he mentions it as a selling point, because its NOT what we wanted. If it could even go an extra 100 feet into the twist it would be more worth it
@@rezz836 Yeah, I know LSMs need more length, but I feel like they could've gotten just a bit more. If it went up into the twist, it would be worth it. I agree on the lockers though. I'm used to SeaWorld/Busch though which doesn't offer free lockers. I would probably use the all-day locker system, but still seems like they could make it 2 hrs free or something so even if people try to cheat the system, it will be an annoyance for them having to run back and get their stuff before they have to pay.
The Pantheon spike is 180 ft high. TT2 is 420 feet high. Based on a 74 mph first launch, It's getting 275-300 feet up the top hat before roll back. It is much higher than you think, the structure is just massive.
I agree crack; (a 12 second ride with a 4. second launch) is inferior to heroin; (a ride w three launches and MUCH more airtime). Conclusion: TT2 is a net gain over TTD. I'm glad to discover America isn't full of potential crack heads. Heroin is dangerous, but it's better than crack. Too bad it doesn't exist anymore as it's replaced with fentanyl. Thanks for posting this review.
That is…certainly a way to put it 😂
@@KICoasterGuy I'd agree.
I prefer the original
That’s fair man I’m sure you won’t be alone in that. It was a unique experience, and this is definitely a different ride.
There is no doubt that this is a better ride, but is it enough of a better experience than the original? It seems like this is just a basic upgrade that could have been an awesome "re-imagined" ride if they allowed Intamin to do it
I can't speak to what Intamin might have been able to do to it. It definitely would have been nice to see CF work with them again, for sure. All I can say is I wasn't disappointed by it, I think Zamperla did a good job, and I'd consider it a worthy successor to the original.
Well….Intamin sort of was involved. I’ve seen a video on another channel talking about how Zamperla poached some Intamin engineers/desingers since this was a ride completely out of their wheelhouse. If true, then the whole lamenting thing people do really goes right out of the window.
I did not like the shake. We sat in the middle and had a headache. I'm not really excited to ride this again.
Ah damn I’m sorry to hear that.
If everyone is noticing the shake or vibration to the ride it seems it’s not operating properly or built to handle the launch or the track, I was also wondering if it’s the train hitch or the small underside tires that are spinning to fast and causing reverberations , it’s definitely noticeable in a few spots of the ride from video footage and review of riders experiencing it, definitely should be a concern for the ride safety long term
Those "small" up stop wheels aren't as small as they appear. If anything, it's a gauging issue, which is fixable. If it were a safety issue, nobody would have signed off on the rides certification. Especially given it's history.
@@jasonkloos6348
But if there is no available evidence of testing these rides with the forces put on the pieces of track or ride vehicle then why is there a noticeable increase of vibration on a new ride /track the vibration will increase because of the forces, there needs to be cushioning to absorb vibration from the extreme speed! Something is not correct or designed to handle that force, all I’m saying is there should be away to observe and correct the vibration
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Oscillating vibration is what’s happening on the wheels/ carts and vibrating because of the frequency of vibration
@@matthewbiesel1405 there is a way. And I'm sure they'll address it in the off season. They wouldn't sign off prior to testing, so it's a know issue. And clearly nothing to be concerned about. The Magnum is 100x worse and has been operating for 35 years without a single failure of the trains.
"So long as it remains reliable".... Um yeah
Yeah, there’s a reason I wrote that in.
@@KICoasterGuy unfortunately :/
I hate where the overall industry is going with fast lanes, fast lane plus, single individual ride.
I also believe in market economics.
Most people hate these things but also would participate if they had the means.
At the same time, if the market wasn’t what Cedar Fair was asking for, they would charge less.
Fair enough.
I am really worried about the shake as someone who can't handle the BNM rattle
🤔 I want to tell you not to be too worried but it’s definitely going to depend person to person. I will say most of the people I went with seemed to think it was a lot less noticeable than I did.
You can't have a cell phone in a 2 hour queue line? Uh, I'll pass.
Yeah so this is going to be one of the big downsides of this ride. I liked it enough that I’ll definitely queue up, but I get it also.
The hourly capacity was cut in half. 600 people per hour is abysmal for a ride that's getting this much attention.
The capacity cut in half is pretty damned good when the length of the ride was sextupled. It’s no longer a 17-second ride.
Are we sure that's the actual capacity? I saw that someone had been calculating it while watching on webcam and they came to that, but is that as good as it can get?
The hourly capacity of Top Thrill Dragster was often zero due to how often it was down. 600 is a lot better than 0
@@KICoasterGuyGoing with a REALLY lenient dispatch time of 90 seconds average (the crew was averaging around 82 seconds on Sunday!), you're getting 40 cycles in an hour. 20 passengers x 40 cycles is 800 an hour on the low end, but they were running quicker. My stopwatch was my entertainment in line, but I see this line cruising. Finally, for what it's worth, the loose article policy isn't great, but it's got advantages. Having the metal detector scan at the entrance eliminates the annoying bottleneck that has resulted at Steel Vengeance with the free lockers, which, for less busy days will make marathoning this thing much more fun. Also, sandals are fine as long as they have straps and backs. Tevas and Keens are ok, but no flip flops.
@@ceejw this is a very good point lol
This place gets greedier every year
Dragster was a one pump chump. TT2 can last longer for our pleasure. *wink*
and its broke
Hopefully not for long!
It’s just shows why are you complaining
Huh?
It’s pretty shaky
I didn't think it was THAT bad, but it's definitely there.
I still don't understand why roller coaster fans don't like shake. It can be to excess but I prefer some to ultra smooth
@@fleedermouse Yeah……people don’t mind the “shaky” when they ride ride classic wooden coasters.
This one didn’t age quite so well
I mean reviews have come out AFTER it closed that are still calling it a success, so I dont know about that.
Complain much?
Did you watch the video? Yeah there are critiques in there, because it’s a review, but it’s also a very positive one.
If you want to listen to people just suck everything in the theme park world off, there’s plenty of it all over the place.
Thanks for this Upload and Review.
Over by me at SIX FLAGS Magic Mountain Weve got SUPERMAN Escape from Krypton which gives you a good thrill but theres night and day difference between Backwards and Fowards Launch. Down side is you barely reach the Red portion of the Tower, although the weightlessness is pretty incredible.
However, I never been to Cedar Point or Six Flags Great Adventure so I would Love to try both KING Da Ka and TOP THRILL 2 for the Height, Speed and some great Airtime.
Thanks Again for your Videos. 😎🌴🎢❤️👍
I'm going to count how many times it's down for maintenance.
Yeah that's going to end up being the big question now. The ride is good, so we've made it over that hurdle (at least imo) but will it be reliable?