I could see it because remember that attack he does vs Marco where he shoots tons of “light balls” so it’s like that but the “light balls” turn into him !!!
Kizaru and Luffy don't seem be taking each other seriously at all. At best they're just keeping each other at bay to buy time to do their necessary tasks.
That's what I was thinking we've seen Gear 5 serious in battle. Right now he's just enjoying the moment like what he did against Kaido. But probably eventually they'll get to that moment.
Nobody cares about Teach. He is just a pirate that alwys backstab and playa dirty( like a real pirate) but he does not have enough power to take down a marine admiral considering how he feared kuzan, and how he struggled wth law
@@Yokai_Yuri Law is a pretty damn tough opponent to beat and fearing something doesn't necessarily mean you have a 0% chance of beating him. The problem is Teach is one of the better strategists in one piece if he is coming to the island he has something huge to gain and a plan on how to actually deal with Luffy and Kizaru
This chapter almost solidifies the Bonney is a child theory for me. Especially with Stella's line "She was with adults like you." Hinting that Stella doesn't see Bonney as an adult compare to the others. And later he calls her a little/young girl. We will see how Viz translates it.
The translation I read specified that when Vegapunks says "mature adults" (I think he is talking to Franky ans Lilith) doesn't mean specifically adult in a anagraphical sense but also simply mature in mentality
Nah man, it's gonna be wayyyyyyyyyy too fuckin creepy if Bonney is a kid. I don't even wanna think about the implications of that because it means way too many people been flickin the bean and waxin the carrot to a child. Which makes all these ass shots of Bonney technically CP depending on the law where you reside. Like Australia for instance, one could use the law there to slap a whole lotta censorship into One Piece.
@@Wasnt-1the only real question would be the damage if any. Cause Luffy called them holograms and holograms can't deal damage they're just copies of an image without a tangible body. No tangible body means no damage. So really they can only be used as a decoy and not an actual attack
@@mememachine2013but was that a clone that did damage or the real one mixed in with the crowd to confuse Luffy. Kizaru being able to move at light speed muddies the water a considerable bit.
As for Doflamingo suddenly being able to colour his threads, a possible explanation could be that, since his default threads seem to be transparent, he's layering them to reflect light in a certain way to create colour
A bit silly but i think its belivable since so far, at least for DFs that involve becoming or producing a thing, a common awakening feat seems to be having a level of control and even knowledge of their thing down to doing very complex and detailed things with them, it comes from training and getting very creative and inventive with it and pushing as far as possible than just making punch bigger
You guys would be the first people to complain about him extending his breaks because he‘s burnt out but then also complain when he is still drawing while being burnt out and seeing a decrease in quality. Clowns.
I just figured that since Kizaru is made of light, essentially, he probably perceives things significantly faster than everyone else and is simply not disoriented by being spun around because it's just not happening very fast to him. 🤷♂️ Makes sense to me.
he moves as fast as light and is used to moving that fast, but it doesn't amp his reaction speed or anything he is just genuinely vibing while fighting luffy lmao
He has not been hit once and he hasnt even tried to use his awakening or used a top tier attack. I have no idea why some people say he's losing so far in the fight. His battle IQ during this fight has been greater than Luffy's. Last chapter he got 4 effective hits with a single kick (land a clean hit on Luffy, destroy the ship's transportation, damage Luffy with the laser barrier going out and forcing him to get more damage going back in) and now he used the same action to get out of a sticky situation and fool his opponent at the same time. This was not what I was expecting from Kizaru tbh, he's way more tactical that what I assumed his style would be. I'm loving this fight.
Ive been saying!!! The admirals are great soldiers, they are calm at almost any situation and all of them are very tactical and know at all times whats the best option
whenever luffy uses gear 5 his battle iq goes out the window, and he just starts doing random shit. maybe that'll prove to be a problem in the coming chapters
Kizaru out here pulling out after images and clones while he strangles Usopp lol and how Luffy swung him around was hilarious, plus the name of his attacks is dope, not to mention Vegapunk with Atlas got pacifistas back on team science while they're going lightspeed themselves towards Bonney 🤣
It makes sense that Luffy is struggling with Kizaru like this. Kaido was a MUCH bigger opponent and they were fighting out in the open. Compare to now he is fighting someone that moves at light speed and in a crammed space. Plus, Kizaru knows the layout of Egghead so he has more of a field advantage knowing where to go when he needs to fall back
@@exotak1826I love how even when Oda puts in moments where Luffy is struggling against Kizaru, instead of going, “Wait maybe Kizaru was stronger than I gave him credit,” you’re just like, “What, this doesn’t make any sense, this doesn’t match up with the millions of power scaling videos I’ve watched,” as if you or anyone else are making the story and have any influence over the direction it’s gonna take.
I think Saint Jay Garcia Saturn is going to give the order to destroy Egghead Island no matter who are in the island, even if that includes Cipher Pot or a mere Marine Admiral. After all, the Gorosei is the absolute definition of "The end justifies the means."
Killing 9 vice Admirals and an Admiral(literally the Navy's strongest fighting force) plus all the marines and pacifistas, the motherflame York, and punk records. So he would not only diminish the wg power drastically, he would also destroy everything they came to save. If he ordered that he would be the most idiotic person in the entire manga 💀💀
I’ve always found the juxtaposition of giving a very slow-paced character the power to move “at the speed of light” pretty funny. Looking forward to seeing how things progress from here on out
I hate how people are saying that Luffy shouldn’t be struggling at all in this fight, but, Luffy barely got Gear 5. Luffy isn’t as experienced with his awakened fruit as Kizaru is with his light fruit. While Luffy is quite talented, and Gear 5 is strong, Kizaru would have some sort of advantage due to being more experienced.
@@darnis6497Yep, Man literally lost to Kaido 3 times, I think Luffy instead of defeating Kizaru, That would just be boring as hell and repeated shit, I think Luffy would just Kizaru busy for sometime with Gear 5, So the SH and Vegapunk can escape to Elbaf And Zoro most likely will defeat Lucci
You brought up a fair point but I'd argue that you can't really call an awakened devil fruit user inexperienced... The mere fact that someone has awakened their fruit means they now have complete mastery over their powers. Furthermore, what exactly is luffy supposed to learn in his gear 5th form? it's abilities isn't that complex where you have to spend time mastering it again...
We haven’t gotten to an Awakened Logia yet. All we know is the effects of them exerting their power. If Kizaru does happen to get into a predicament with Luffy where his “mission” is not going to be accomplished he might just have to bust out a brighter style. Smoker was our intro into Logia powers, now Kizaru could be our intro to an Awakened one.
I really love how nonchalant Kizaru is when it comes to dealing with Luffy. It cracks me up to see how he casually observes that he's about to fall into the ocean before warping back to Egghead. At the same time, he's surprisingly focused on the mission, using his light doppelgangers to keep Luffy distracted while he goes for Vegapunk again. He's definitely going to be a challenge to deal with, that's for sure (not that I expected Luffy's fight against him to be easy, that is). That final panel of St. Jaygarcia Saturn coupled with Atlas giving the order to the Pacifistas to fight the Marines definitely has me thinking he's going to get directly involved with the conflict soon. This was bound to happen after it was set up that the order of authority for the Pacifistas and the Seraphim has the Five Elders set above the Vegapunks, but now that things are really heating up on Egghead, his role coming into play is definitely bound to happen and moment now.
well yes but im actually more happy seeing luffy taking out literally legion of admirals and with only one kick if you may that's goes to show how far gear 5 luffy's power scaling is that even emperors admirals or even gear 4 itself is way below gear 5's level
With what we've seen of Bonney--her actions, her abilities, etc--it's hard to imagine her holding a similar rank as Luffy/Law/Kidd back in the days of Sabaody. Makes me wonder if Bonney has a bigger bounty for a different reason. Something more Robin-esque where she's hunted because she knows something or is important in some other way (insert clone theories here). At this point, most of what we've seen of Bonney is her getting captured, and her hiding.
This chapter gave more evidence that Bonney is a child using her powers to age herself. Vegapunk refers to Bonney as a "Young Girl" and refers to Franky as a "Big Adult", there have been so many comments alluding to Bonney's youth so I feel like Oda is hammering this idea home.
Everyone expects Franky to have a shining moment during egghead but i think it’s going to happen after, i think Stella will not be able to leave, leaving Franky to mess with all the gadgets jimbei was gathering this chapter and improving them.
It really does. He's going against the very form used to help defeat Kaido, but he's still so super chill about it. He's not even pulling off any goofy expressions like Kaido did lol
Kizaru stopping mid-air, separating himself, and reassembling himself was awesome. That is such a good use of light. I'm curious if he can change the vibration of the light creating radio waves. Also Lucci is on the level of Sanji now, Luffy knocked him down to 4th place...
I'm curious to see how Jinbe would fare against Lucci. Who's Who was supposed to be a rival to Lucci and we saw how Jinbe low-diffed him. Maybe since Lucci is awakened it might be high-diff, but I think Jinbei could pull it off.
@chriswebster839 I'd like to see that cat versus fish. Lol. I think Jimbe would take the W, his use of Haki is better than what we were led to believe during the Paramount War.
Kizaru is definitely impressing me, i never thought Luffy would low-mid diff him but i thought Luffy would have much more dominance in their exchanges…but Kizaru doesn’t even look like he’s exerting himself, it’s showing that an admiral’s experience, intelligence and mastery of their DF can allow them to deal with any encounter even against a Yonko
@@carlososler7024 He lost due to losing most of his stamina from fighting 15 other YC level fighters and dominating them + Luffy more than 3 times. If we do the math with Gear 5's terrible draining issues + a fresh Kaido's insane endurance. Things would've gone differently.
me im actually impressed to luffy he basically faced legion of admiral but he took them out with one kick can you believe that i think what oda was doing was he giving the haters or maybe kizaru fans hope this chapter but then he'd show how far the gap between gear 5 luffy and kizaru really is even if kizaru summons literal billions of clones
Oda has the immeasurable goal of finishing off this behemoth of a series in a satisfying way and here we are 1093 chapters in and he's over here on egghead focusing on drawing erotic buttocks. This man knows his priorities. Female crocodile confirmed.
What makes Egghead so great is that there is literally so much that could happen at any moment. We got through a-lot of great exposition to this moment where literally so much is happening. Nothing is set in stone and the situation is extremely fluid.
considering how S-Snake still has memories of Hancock's affection and trust in Luffy, I'm actually very excited and hopeful that we'll get something similar for S-Bear. If memory serves, he never got to actually _see_ Bonney at any point during Egghead (because I don't remember her ever commenting on it because she obviously would if she saw him), so that makes me wonder if his inherited love for Bonney will drive him to try and protect her from harm, even if he's trapped in the seastone bubble. I dunno if he'll specifically recognize her as his "daughter", but I think he'll definitely recognize her as his family.
Ever since that one Nami panel, I knew Oda had ulterior motives. This makes complete sense to me, cause I remember thinking it was weird that we were getting so many butt shots this arc specifically because Oda always seemed like more of a boob man based off his usual fanservice, so I thought he might be experimenting or something.
normally when an antagonist is like... "Im to busy to fight you now I have to focus on my job" I call bullshit, but this actually feels good I think this is the FIRST time ive ever actually seen this trope pulled off nearly this satisfyingly
This chapter made me wonder about the experience gems related to Bonney's powers, as she used them again without the gems showing. Have we seen her de-age or up age a single person other then herself and Vegapunk? Because whenever she uses her power on a group, there's always roughly an equal amount of de-aged and up aged targets. Perhaps she transfers the exp from the former to the latter.
The fact that Luffy hitting the clones and not damaging Kizaru really shows that not all logia are created equal, when Vergo attacked smoker while his arm was made of smoke he was able to hurt smoker so all of the smoke acted as a target. In Kizaru's case however he seems to be able to seperate his logia body and still control the seperate pieces like doflamingo did with his string puppet. Also being able to control so many clones at once shows how mentally capable Kizaru actually is.
I keep getting the feeling that Bonney is more important than we think and younger. She was called a “young girl” again in this chapter. Mind you Kizaru said she was an “acquaintance” and “kids grow up so fast” last chapter to her but i think that’s a hidden message obviously because of her powers
@meow-ic6gz Wasn't that already made clear during the Reverie? When Bonney aged herself up, the mariejois soldiers referred to her as Queen dowager connie. Also, Kuma, her dad, was already said to be the ruler of the sorbet kingdom. I'm confused why you guys are treating this like a theory when we already know Bonney is the princess of the sorbet kingdom.
In a way, this fight is the true test of Luffy’s growth since the timeskip. Luffy didn’t necessarily want to be strong enough to dominate everyone. He wanted to be strong enough to PROTECT whoever he decides to protect. Now he’s fighting a powerful guy who doesn’t really care about fighting him back and just wants to kill someone he said he’d protect. It’s a whole different kind of engagement, but it’s the one Luffy has been working up to this whole time. Hope he can pull it off.
People dog him, but Luffy has managed to stop one of the fastest people in verse from killing his targets multiple times, despite Kizarus stall tactics.
it's interesting to think that kisaru "taking his sweet time" may be due to him thinking too quickly and everything seeming too slow in his perspective, so he actually has time to think while being thrown into the water and high speed.
nah he's actually doing everything to end this quickly he not only want to stop the straw hats but he also want to kill stella so he actually giving all he can to end his altercation with luffy as quickly as possible
I would actually love to see further twists in the command hierarchy of the pacifistas. Mainly Saturn commanding them to turn on Bonney only at the last moment for them to stop and not adhere to it, a previously unknown remnant of OG Kuma that got carried over making them not want to harm his daughter, and ultimately resulting in a new hidden addition at the top of the hierarchy: Bonney herself. Ripe for chaos to ensue.
I find it hard to imagine that Vegapunkt being commissioned to essentially build weapons of mass destruction for a bunch of supremacists, of whom he clearly has a lot of understanding and who he despises, wouldn't think of building a backdoor into the command hierarchy programming of Pacifistas and Seraphim. It shouldn't be obvious and maybe capable of withstanding a proof of concept test, that the Gorosei hold highest command authority - - but should things really go south, I believe he build in some kind of backdoor.
In response to your comment about Kaidos backstory in the recent anime episod, TOTALLY agree. They A got so much more pathos out of it and did a really good job framing Kaido and Luffy as two folks who use strength to achieve their goals, but Kaido as someone's who couldnt see beyond strength as the ideal. They told us so succinctly why he needs that, because it is how he pushed back against his own oppressors. Loved it.
I never believed in the "Bonney is still a child" theory, but my god if they didn't hammer down Bonney being young I this chapter. It almost makes me a believer in that theory.
Shadow Clone Jutsu was always one of my favorite powers and I always wanted their to be a devil fruit which gives the user this power. Maybe a Bon Chan awakening could do something like this. For now, I'm really happy with Kizaru's light clones
seem like the clones have the same issue as the naruto clones where their level of strength is completely up in the air. There is no way of know how powerful the clones are, or what their limitations are. How they are controlled or what they cost to use.
Crazy theory. Bonnie is a clone. She has been called a young girl by people who could be in the know. She has said multiple times that her dad would not have left her. So Kumas daughter couldve died somehow and thats what motivated him to undergo the operation in the first place. At a primal level, he heard Bonnie was alive and is doing everything he can to get to her.
Definetly more excited about what Saturn will/can do. Yes the iron giant is interesting and i wanna see what will happen with it, however it will most likely be just a short story device that barely matters after egghead while saturn is one of the most important characters in the series. having a chance to gauge their power levels would be great to see and wouls also answer my question of "was Kaido REALLY the strongest in the verse? or did the others just not care about that title?" especially after now seeing how Kizaru is handling Luffy i also feel like his remark of being confident in possibly fighting 2 emperors at once wasnt that much of an overstatement as we originally thought...
I like how Kizaru isnt a threat bc he's stronger than Luffy but because of his speed. He's not trying to beat Luffy, he's distracting him long enough to accomplish his mission
nah he's actually trying to take out luffy so that he could fulfill his main objective which is to kill stella and remember luffy is a emperor level pirate he doesn't only have billion bounty but kizaru can literally capture him dead or alive so kizaru was actually trying all his best to end their altercation
@@Wasnt-1Hes giving the minimum effort to keep Luffy at bay by remaining a threat. But if it came down to a moment where he could score a brutal hit against Luffy vs potentially killing Vegapunk, he would zip away towards Einstein without a second thought like he did this chapter
@@BadKarma444 i don't think summoning maybe 50 clones of himself is a minimum effort luffy just basically took out 50 or something admirals and that goes to show that if luffy also wants to kill kizaru he'd end the admiral's life in a blink of an eye
@@Wasnt-1Kizaru literally says he doesn't want to fight Luggy because it's a waste of time. If he wanted to fight he would've fought instead of distracting Luffy. All he cares about is completing his mission
I love how people are disappointed that Luffy didnt turn Kizaru into a flashlight or low diffed him. Just shows how bad majority of these casual fans at powerscaling. Probably the same people that believes Oden could've beaten Kaido in a fair match lmao.
I had a quite different understanding of Zoro’s fight with King. I think Zoro meant that if Enma continued to drain his Armament Haki at this rate, he would die. But then he activated his Conqueror’s Haki, which satisfied Enma and stopped the massive Haki drain. So Zoro had discovered a solution to his problem and thus he said “perfect”. I see it as Armament being fast food, while Conqueror’s is a gourmet meal, which Enma was used to from his previous master. So while Zoro certainly still has to improve Conqueror’s Haki and will get gradually exhausted during the fight, I think can use Enma without risking his life.
@@scrubelite4915 exactly why for the time being his main goal isn't trying to directly confront Luffy he has been knocking him around and trying to complete the main objective if Luffy runs out of gear 5 then he could make much quicker work of him
Sorry, was waiting for official release, but I think Luffy was talking about mihawks ghost gf's hallows rather than holograms. I know.ita a small thing, but I find it cool cause it means that Luffy actually does have some memory of her, which we can say is more impressive since he found her as somewhat of a danger
I suspect that Luffy's haki can hurt Kizaru and his light clones, however, I think Kizaru is doing a Katakuri and moving himself around the attack so he can't be hit. I mean, with his speed he should be able to do this technique quicker than anyone else. Was a really cool fight while it lasted but tbh really disappointed at the amount of fighting between Kizaru and Luffy given the chapter was called Kizaru vs Luffy. They attacked each other only twice each.
For some reason when Vegapunk went out to save Bonney, the last chapter that Garp appeared when he talked about the youth being the future came to mind. Maybe it is possible that Vegapunk will stay behind to save Bonney, Sentomaru and his "children"(his satellites). And it is possible that he'll be spared because WG will need him for the Mother Flame, since I believe York will leave with the BB crew.
The Admirals vs Yonko discussion has been going crazy this arc. I feel like everyone forgotten what Kuzan and Sakazuki did to Punk Hazard! I never understood why tier lists have a Yonko tier and below that an Admiral tier because everyone just assumed that Yonko was peak when the only time that we have seen an admiral go all out it was against another admiral and they literally changed the climate of an entire island.
The reason is quite obvious. It's Marineford. Whitebeard acts as if it wasn't for his age, his sickness and his wounds he would have crushed sakazuki And Shanks manages to stop the war even with 3 admirals and a fleet admiral being up against black beard and a dying whitebeard crew Maybe we say that had they continued fighting they would have defeated shanks. But they were afraid of taking too many losses. How would that happen if Shanks was not stronger than at least 1 of the 4 admirals+ garp present. The last evidence is Rayleigh If we assume the Yonko are the same level as Gold Roger, then his 2nd in command is able to go toe to toe with Kizaru If Admirals > Yonko, but Rayleigh = Admirals. You are saying Rayleigh > Yonko.
@@16m49x3 first of all I am saying admirals = Yonko, second yes Rayleigh is as close to a Yonko as you can get without being one just like Garp. Also, Kizaru challenged Rayleigh to a sword fight…
@@henrytudor8537 the haki argument is literally the argument used in Mihawk vs Shanks. Just because they haven’t shown haki doesn’t mean they don’t have it.
My thoughts & opinions of the chapter: 1. It's no surprise that the flames on Zoro's sword confirms that we will see "the King of Hell" again very soon. However, I now wonder if Oda will take the chance to reveal some more clues on the Grim Reaper that tried to hurt him back in Wano! 2. Idk what Saturn will really do in the very next chapter, but I think that it will not be good for Luffy & the others even if they do have the upper hand with Kizaru!
1. maybe it's them showing that zoro means everything telling about lucci's level of power that zoro doesn't even have to go all out to kill lucci even when he's already in his awakened form 2. i think and would be nice to see jinbei and sanji to temporarily take on saturn whilst luffy is dealing with millions of admirals (kizaru) and zoro on lucci
i always believe the reaper was enma, he talks about how if he uses his haki the same way constantly he will die but its a good thing for him type shit, i think that was the personification of enma
@meow-ic6gz i think what zoro was implying that luffy is far stronger than lucci and thus doesn't deserve the chance to fight the captain when his second in command is strong enough to take on lucci ,and at the same time subtlety confirming that zoro thinks luffy is stronger than himself. i dont think zoro said anything about lucci being weaker than his self/zoro.
I have a way out-there theory based on very loose speculation for a potential twist if Stella dies, come with me on this: as far as we know, food on egghead all comes out of machines. The nearest and only fruit on the island that his devil fruit could reincarnate in that we know of for sure are on the tangerine trees on the Sunny. We had a failed rescue attempt at marine ford and a devil fruit reincarnation at Stella's old lab in the past, soo? And hey, Franky may have turned down the mera mera no mi on Dressrosa, but would he turn down the chance for exclusive and direct access to Punk Records? SUPER futuristic battle franky technology for the rest of the story? Please and thank you! Anyone else on this line of thinking or just me hoping that apple gramps goes donut-Ace mode and sacrifices himself for Luffy?
Something's that's been on my mind since Shaka got.. de-helmeted .. if all the satellites are connected to Punk Records and if a satellite goes bye-bye, do the other satellites and Stella get that aspect of the unalived satellites?
No Admiral can handle 2 Yonko as much as no Yonko can handle 2 Admirals. Do you actually think that Luffy's gonna lose again after this long-awaited rematch? Reminders that it's too late for another timeskip as the other Yonko are already going after the One Piece.
Marco is. Owhere near kizaru level. G5 that defeated kaido can’t even hit him so how can kaido and bm can even lands a hit? Lol. He’s definitely not beating 2 emperor but he’s mission there is to prevent them. He would probably harassed both crew especially with his clones. Kaido vs kizaru I can see can go eitherway but bm vs kizaru is not debatable at this point. Bm is too dumb to even make kizaru take her seriously, and all kizaru has to do is attack bm with clones and starves her to death 😂
@@gamerzay69 I agree, it's funny that a couple years ago everybody thought that Shanks was the weakest Yonko, but now everyone agrees that he is the strongest after Whitebeards death.
I think Kaido was more affected by luffy's devil fruit because he had no idea this fruit existed, while Kizaru talked about rumors about the fruit. Also, kaido was really tired at this point
I think Kizaru is so confident in his abilities combined with him already knowing about Luffy and have already beat Luffy, he truly believes he can be Luffy.
It's not like Luffy is going all out in G5 either. We haven't even seen him use the conquers coating yet. It feels like they're both dicking with each other.
@@indifference1015true Kizaru has also been using his fruit powers only and no adv haki so far, and cmon man it's a Kizaru W that he was able to hurt G5 with only his fruit powers and pushed Luffy into his strongest form, while Kizaru has taken no damage and checkmated Luffy twice
Did you forget that Kaido fought the 9 scabbards, luffy and the super novas,then Yamato then gear 5th luffy all while lifting an Island? I'm sure it would of been the same with Kaido with the eye popping
I actually first noticed it when we first saw Bonnie, but I chalked it up to Oda sensei’s overall improvement in drawing 🤣, but the ladies definitely look more detailed😏
oh, come on... when tien shin used the clone tech for the first time it was actually pretty well implemented, with a strategy that covered all angles of the stage, and was only defeated because goku noted that 12 eyes looking for him would be weak to a good ol' solar flare xD
Never expected Kizaru to pull out the shadow clone jutsu
more like Light Clone Jutsu
Yes light cone jutsu
*clone
I could see it because remember that attack he does vs Marco where he shoots tons of “light balls” so it’s like that but the “light balls” turn into him !!!
So you are saying you couldn’t…. Believe it?
Sentomaru is really becoming the hidden MVP of this arc.
Gotta admit, him catching Bonney made him look cold as hell
No
It's just the fanbase completely sleeps on him because Lucci took him out so easily.
Kizaru and Luffy don't seem be taking each other seriously at all. At best they're just keeping each other at bay to buy time to do their necessary tasks.
That's what I was thinking we've seen Gear 5 serious in battle. Right now he's just enjoying the moment like what he did against Kaido. But probably eventually they'll get to that moment.
@@silverarrow2013 he was laughing his head off vs kaido not seen him do that vs kizaru
@@yonisashkir7158he was laughing in this chapter
@@yonisashkir7158 Literally the first panel was him laughing like do you actually be reading the chapters? Lmaoo
@@ImAviexhe also laughed when he found out zoro was fighting too anyways this ain’t a fight to the death why y’all taken it so seriously lmao
I like how well Oda is making sure we forget about Blackbeard's ship being nearby
Nobody cares about Teach. He is just a pirate that alwys backstab and playa dirty( like a real pirate) but he does not have enough power to take down a marine admiral considering how he feared kuzan, and how he struggled wth law
Teach is not here, but Laffite who solo entered Marijoa without being detected is here@@Yokai_Yuri
@@Yokai_Yuriyou don't care* blud you're a contrarian not the majority 💀
@@Yokai_Yurilisten to yourself! You’re delusional
@@Yokai_Yuri Law is a pretty damn tough opponent to beat and fearing something doesn't necessarily mean you have a 0% chance of beating him. The problem is Teach is one of the better strategists in one piece if he is coming to the island he has something huge to gain and a plan on how to actually deal with Luffy and Kizaru
This chapter almost solidifies the Bonney is a child theory for me. Especially with Stella's line "She was with adults like you." Hinting that Stella doesn't see Bonney as an adult compare to the others. And later he calls her a little/young girl. We will see how Viz translates it.
The translation I read specified that when Vegapunks says "mature adults" (I think he is talking to Franky ans Lilith) doesn't mean specifically adult in a anagraphical sense but also simply mature in mentality
Nah man, it's gonna be wayyyyyyyyyy too fuckin creepy if Bonney is a kid. I don't even wanna think about the implications of that because it means way too many people been flickin the bean and waxin the carrot to a child. Which makes all these ass shots of Bonney technically CP depending on the law where you reside. Like Australia for instance, one could use the law there to slap a whole lotta censorship into One Piece.
Now i can see how confident Kizaru was even volunteering to go after the yonko in wano.
yeah he can literally just spawn million clones of himself
so kaido and big mom would literally fight millions of admiral
@@Wasnt-1the only real question would be the damage if any. Cause Luffy called them holograms and holograms can't deal damage they're just copies of an image without a tangible body. No tangible body means no damage. So really they can only be used as a decoy and not an actual attack
@@Jonathan-dj3ybhis clones slightly damaged lufffy
Luffy beat the clones still and both Yonko had massive AoE attacks. It would be even less effective on them.
@@mememachine2013but was that a clone that did damage or the real one mixed in with the crowd to confuse Luffy. Kizaru being able to move at light speed muddies the water a considerable bit.
As for Doflamingo suddenly being able to colour his threads, a possible explanation could be that, since his default threads seem to be transparent, he's layering them to reflect light in a certain way to create colour
A bit silly but i think its belivable since so far, at least for DFs that involve becoming or producing a thing, a common awakening feat seems to be having a level of control and even knowledge of their thing down to doing very complex and detailed things with them, it comes from training and getting very creative and inventive with it and pushing as far as possible than just making punch bigger
i figured since he has "pentachromatic strings" as an attack he can just change the color of the strings
Same
some jojo shit right there lol
Even Trebol could change the color of his mucus in order to disguise it as part of his body.
Seeing how desperate Vegapunk is to save Bonney, I am now 100% convinced that she is a child
I completely agree! This seems to be the part of the chapter that people seem to be talking about the least.
and there's still people saying she's not lmao we got confirmed 4 times that she is in fact A CHILD
@@istheyear-ry1elbonney simps boutta have a breakdown
@@zacharybenn1497cause they don't give a fuck tf why they talk about something so boring like what
@@istheyear-ry1elWell not comfirmed still vague but if I'm being honest very likely now.
I for one greatly appreciate that Oda is stepping outside his comfort zone and trying to improve his artistic capabilities.
The art in the chapter was kinda mid though
@@kidyaes9832
mid ????
it was f-ing garbage..
Oda: “I’m drawing more ass to improve my ability to draw sexy asses.” Manga readers who like women: 😁👍
You guys would be the first people to complain about him extending his breaks because he‘s burnt out but then also complain when he is still drawing while being burnt out and seeing a decrease in quality. Clowns.
@@cynx9228
He's burned out doing what ?
That shitbag of a mangas ?
The biggest thing about this fight is Kizaru is making no attempt to fight Luffy directly which allows the versatility of his fruit to be highlighted.
I just figured that since Kizaru is made of light, essentially, he probably perceives things significantly faster than everyone else and is simply not disoriented by being spun around because it's just not happening very fast to him. 🤷♂️ Makes sense to me.
No Kizaru can just use light as a weapon. Can't think in light speed.
@@FelixSunnyy yeah but he is probably still at least used to going that fast so it doesnt disorientate him
I dont think he’s the flash
he moves as fast as light and is used to moving that fast, but it doesn't amp his reaction speed or anything
he is just genuinely vibing while fighting luffy lmao
In the game pirate warriors 3 kizaru says sumtn like everything moves slow to him so ur not wrong
Kizaru still looks like he's not even trying. Luffy looks like he's just having fun. Top tiers in One Piece feel different.
they are 2 monkeys for real
He has not been hit once and he hasnt even tried to use his awakening or used a top tier attack. I have no idea why some people say he's losing so far in the fight.
His battle IQ during this fight has been greater than Luffy's. Last chapter he got 4 effective hits with a single kick (land a clean hit on Luffy, destroy the ship's transportation, damage Luffy with the laser barrier going out and forcing him to get more damage going back in) and now he used the same action to get out of a sticky situation and fool his opponent at the same time.
This was not what I was expecting from Kizaru tbh, he's way more tactical that what I assumed his style would be. I'm loving this fight.
Ive been saying!!! The admirals are great soldiers, they are calm at almost any situation and all of them are very tactical and know at all times whats the best option
I've been saying this too. The admirals are better fighters and strategists than the yonkos. They are better trained
whenever luffy uses gear 5 his battle iq goes out the window, and he just starts doing random shit. maybe that'll prove to be a problem in the coming chapters
Ye people really are sleeping on admirals lately
yes kizaru outsmarting him
Kizaru is so OP, he can pronounce Ben Beckman without touching lips.
Kizaru out here pulling out after images and clones while he strangles Usopp lol and how Luffy swung him around was hilarious, plus the name of his attacks is dope, not to mention Vegapunk with Atlas got pacifistas back on team science while they're going lightspeed themselves towards Bonney 🤣
It makes sense that Luffy is struggling with Kizaru like this. Kaido was a MUCH bigger opponent and they were fighting out in the open. Compare to now he is fighting someone that moves at light speed and in a crammed space. Plus, Kizaru knows the layout of Egghead so he has more of a field advantage knowing where to go when he needs to fall back
This is such cope. Luffy should not be struggling at all with kizaru.
@@exotak1826gear 5 should mop kizaru
@@exotak1826I love how even when Oda puts in moments where Luffy is struggling against Kizaru, instead of going, “Wait maybe Kizaru was stronger than I gave him credit,” you’re just like, “What, this doesn’t make any sense, this doesn’t match up with the millions of power scaling videos I’ve watched,” as if you or anyone else are making the story and have any influence over the direction it’s gonna take.
@@exotak1826i disagree. What makes you think the admirals don't have conquerors haki?
@@EvskiiCFIt took 1000 niggas and 3 revives for luffy to beat Kaido and he just got Gear 5, why wouldn’t he be struggling?
I think Saint Jay Garcia Saturn is going to give the order to destroy Egghead Island no matter who are in the island, even if that includes Cipher Pot or a mere Marine Admiral. After all, the Gorosei is the absolute definition of "The end justifies the means."
Killing 9 vice Admirals and an Admiral(literally the Navy's strongest fighting force) plus all the marines and pacifistas, the motherflame York, and punk records. So he would not only diminish the wg power drastically, he would also destroy everything they came to save. If he ordered that he would be the most idiotic person in the entire manga 💀💀
He seems to really want motherflame tho
How’s the island gonna be destroyed? Kizaru is his best fire power
It surprises me so much that with every panty joke, “let me see your panties” and revealing outfits that Oda has never drawn panties before.
I’ve always found the juxtaposition of giving a very slow-paced character the power to move “at the speed of light” pretty funny. Looking forward to seeing how things progress from here on out
I hate how people are saying that Luffy shouldn’t be struggling at all in this fight, but, Luffy barely got Gear 5. Luffy isn’t as experienced with his awakened fruit as Kizaru is with his light fruit. While Luffy is quite talented, and Gear 5 is strong, Kizaru would have some sort of advantage due to being more experienced.
it would also be an extremely boring story if Luffy could just steamroll everyone.
@@darnis6497Yep, Man literally lost to Kaido 3 times, I think Luffy instead of defeating Kizaru, That would just be boring as hell and repeated shit, I think Luffy would just Kizaru busy for sometime with Gear 5, So the SH and Vegapunk can escape to Elbaf
And Zoro most likely will defeat Lucci
@@FusionTMKLuffy was beaten before he got Gear 5. Right now Gear 5 is 1-0 in Battle.
You brought up a fair point but I'd argue that you can't really call an awakened devil fruit user inexperienced... The mere fact that someone has awakened their fruit means they now have complete mastery over their powers. Furthermore, what exactly is luffy supposed to learn in his gear 5th form? it's abilities isn't that complex where you have to spend time mastering it again...
@@silverarrow2013 Kaido literally had to wait patiently while Luffy powered up again and kindly allowed himself to be punched.
We haven’t gotten to an Awakened Logia yet. All we know is the effects of them exerting their power. If Kizaru does happen to get into a predicament with Luffy where his “mission” is not going to be accomplished he might just have to bust out a brighter style. Smoker was our intro into Logia powers, now Kizaru could be our intro to an Awakened one.
The Pika Pika no mi has been my favorite fruit since I first saw it. Every chapter I see it in use makes me love it more!
I really love how nonchalant Kizaru is when it comes to dealing with Luffy. It cracks me up to see how he casually observes that he's about to fall into the ocean before warping back to Egghead. At the same time, he's surprisingly focused on the mission, using his light doppelgangers to keep Luffy distracted while he goes for Vegapunk again. He's definitely going to be a challenge to deal with, that's for sure (not that I expected Luffy's fight against him to be easy, that is).
That final panel of St. Jaygarcia Saturn coupled with Atlas giving the order to the Pacifistas to fight the Marines definitely has me thinking he's going to get directly involved with the conflict soon. This was bound to happen after it was set up that the order of authority for the Pacifistas and the Seraphim has the Five Elders set above the Vegapunks, but now that things are really heating up on Egghead, his role coming into play is definitely bound to happen and moment now.
@giwrgospetrou1159 Because you need to be physically present with the Seraphim to give them orders.
@giwrgospetrou1159 are u satisfied he ordered them 🤡🤡
Bro I am so Happy we are seeing the true strength of an admiral. I really want to learn more about kizarus personality
Yonkotards are going to suffer lol
2 Year Timeskip we're talking here!
well yes
but im actually more happy seeing luffy taking out literally legion of admirals and with only one kick if you may
that's goes to show how far gear 5 luffy's power scaling is that even emperors admirals or even gear 4 itself is way below gear 5's level
@@Wasnt-1that attack by luffy shows how great his battle IQ really is.
mans coping on every comment you must be a big fan of yonkous@@Wasnt-1
With what we've seen of Bonney--her actions, her abilities, etc--it's hard to imagine her holding a similar rank as Luffy/Law/Kidd back in the days of Sabaody. Makes me wonder if Bonney has a bigger bounty for a different reason. Something more Robin-esque where she's hunted because she knows something or is important in some other way (insert clone theories here). At this point, most of what we've seen of Bonney is her getting captured, and her hiding.
Vegapunk ackowledging Franky's tech by telling him to pick up the ship with the shogun was a lowkey fire moment
Kizaru clone ability would be best used as either distraction or large scale battles to handle fodder enemies.
I think a single Light clone would be able to wipe out an entire nation with armies having no haki
@@FreeziePop8 probably lol
@@FreeziePop8 it's crazy how powerful admirals are. especially kizaru.
@@FreeziePop8No haki users are done for he could ahve killed the whole straw hats with a clones before time skip.
Its great that Oda buffs characters like that, makes balance much more interesting than just haki
Kizaru really took notes from the reverse flash and did a speed mirage
This chapter gave more evidence that Bonney is a child using her powers to age herself. Vegapunk refers to Bonney as a "Young Girl" and refers to Franky as a "Big Adult", there have been so many comments alluding to Bonney's youth so I feel like Oda is hammering this idea home.
The topless bonney scene would age weirdly then💀
@@revimfadli4666”why don’t you take a seat”
its been confirmed 4 times so far
@@revimfadli4666😂😂😂😂
@@istheyear-ry1el it hasn't been confirmed, only alluded to
Liam you're ability to speak is fantastic and you don't get enough credit for it. You are a master of the English language.
Everyone expects Franky to have a shining moment during egghead but i think it’s going to happen after, i think Stella will not be able to leave, leaving Franky to mess with all the gadgets jimbei was gathering this chapter and improving them.
It's crazy that it feels like kizaru still isn't trying that hard
It really does. He's going against the very form used to help defeat Kaido, but he's still so super chill about it. He's not even pulling off any goofy expressions like Kaido did lol
I'm starting to feel Kizaru's face is just permanently relaxed
How was snake man luffy not able to beat kizaru??? He literally fought kaido in that form.
@@exotak1826 Because yonkotards are going to have to admit the power of admirals
@@exotak1826and lost to kaido in snakeman. Luffy needed gear 5. This is his best chance to beat an admiral
Kizaru stopping mid-air, separating himself, and reassembling himself was awesome. That is such a good use of light. I'm curious if he can change the vibration of the light creating radio waves. Also Lucci is on the level of Sanji now, Luffy knocked him down to 4th place...
I'm curious to see how Jinbe would fare against Lucci. Who's Who was supposed to be a rival to Lucci and we saw how Jinbe low-diffed him. Maybe since Lucci is awakened it might be high-diff, but I think Jinbei could pull it off.
@chriswebster839 I'd like to see that cat versus fish. Lol. I think Jimbe would take the W, his use of Haki is better than what we were led to believe during the Paramount War.
I just love how both Luffy and Kizaru are both just trolls in this fight😂😂😂. Dude is like please releasee 😂
Kizaru is definitely impressing me, i never thought Luffy would low-mid diff him but i thought Luffy would have much more dominance in their exchanges…but Kizaru doesn’t even look like he’s exerting himself, it’s showing that an admiral’s experience, intelligence and mastery of their DF can allow them to deal with any encounter even against a Yonko
Why though? He’s an admiral who was confident in going to face 2 Yonko who 1 of (kaido) is still arguably stronger than current luffy.
@@gamerzay69 No, he isn't, he lost against Gear 5 and has nothing against a Bajrang Gun in his face.
Simple, he wasn't targeting Luffy and is more focused on distracting him so he can attack Luffy's friends.
@@carlososler7024 He lost due to losing most of his stamina from fighting 15 other YC level fighters and dominating them + Luffy more than 3 times. If we do the math with Gear 5's terrible draining issues + a fresh Kaido's insane endurance. Things would've gone differently.
me im actually impressed to luffy
he basically faced legion of admiral but he took them out with one kick can you believe that
i think what oda was doing was he giving the haters or maybe kizaru fans hope this chapter but then he'd show how far the gap between gear 5 luffy and kizaru really is even if kizaru summons literal billions of clones
Admiral Kizaru vs Emperor Luffy is gonna be pure unadulterated awesomeness.
Oda has the immeasurable goal of finishing off this behemoth of a series in a satisfying way and here we are 1093 chapters in and he's over here on egghead focusing on drawing erotic buttocks. This man knows his priorities. Female crocodile confirmed.
What makes Egghead so great is that there is literally so much that could happen at any moment. We got through a-lot of great exposition to this moment where literally so much is happening. Nothing is set in stone and the situation is extremely fluid.
Hopefully it doesn't devolve into another onigashima
Kizaru 2 weeks later: "Woah... I think that guy might have been a cartoon..."
considering how S-Snake still has memories of Hancock's affection and trust in Luffy, I'm actually very excited and hopeful that we'll get something similar for S-Bear. If memory serves, he never got to actually _see_ Bonney at any point during Egghead (because I don't remember her ever commenting on it because she obviously would if she saw him), so that makes me wonder if his inherited love for Bonney will drive him to try and protect her from harm, even if he's trapped in the seastone bubble. I dunno if he'll specifically recognize her as his "daughter", but I think he'll definitely recognize her as his family.
no, she doesn't have her memories, luffy's just her type. He is handsome and a perfect man in her eyes.
I can appreciate that Oda took the time to study the art of drawing buttocks, what a true artist he is.
Ever since that one Nami panel, I knew Oda had ulterior motives. This makes complete sense to me, cause I remember thinking it was weird that we were getting so many butt shots this arc specifically because Oda always seemed like more of a boob man based off his usual fanservice, so I thought he might be experimenting or something.
he literally said somewhere that he just learned how to draw proper butt thus an arc full of women's butt
normally when an antagonist is like... "Im to busy to fight you now I have to focus on my job" I call bullshit, but this actually feels good I think this is the FIRST time ive ever actually seen this trope pulled off nearly this satisfyingly
This chapter made me wonder about the experience gems related to Bonney's powers, as she used them again without the gems showing. Have we seen her de-age or up age a single person other then herself and Vegapunk?
Because whenever she uses her power on a group, there's always roughly an equal amount of de-aged and up aged targets. Perhaps she transfers the exp from the former to the latter.
The fact that Luffy hitting the clones and not damaging Kizaru really shows that not all logia are created equal, when Vergo attacked smoker while his arm was made of smoke he was able to hurt smoker so all of the smoke acted as a target. In Kizaru's case however he seems to be able to seperate his logia body and still control the seperate pieces like doflamingo did with his string puppet. Also being able to control so many clones at once shows how mentally capable Kizaru actually is.
Maybe, just maybe, its a logia awakening thing?
But no part of the clones was his actual body we see him already choking usopp after luffy beats the clones and even asks if he got the real one
One thing I don't see mentioned is how Luffy strategically lined up the clones and took them out in one swoop.
Loved the sike, "gotcha!" smirk.
Oda just a real one. "I will learn how to draw asses! I will dedicate an arc to them!"
Bravo Oda. Bravo.
whats crazier is that barto with a brain is still stronger
Seven Deadly Sins has my favorite use for clones... when its reviled that Fraudrin was actually fighting Meliodas's clone
I keep getting the feeling that Bonney is more important than we think and younger. She was called a “young girl” again in this chapter. Mind you Kizaru said she was an “acquaintance” and “kids grow up so fast” last chapter to her but i think that’s a hidden message obviously because of her powers
Agree
yeah she might be a princess or a successor of a throne or something
@@Wasnt-1 It could be that, i just feel her and Kuma are part of some bigger plot.
@meow-ic6gz Wasn't that already made clear during the Reverie? When Bonney aged herself up, the mariejois soldiers referred to her as Queen dowager connie. Also, Kuma, her dad, was already said to be the ruler of the sorbet kingdom. I'm confused why you guys are treating this like a theory when we already know Bonney is the princess of the sorbet kingdom.
@@InvaderZ1 i already know that, i just think there’s something bigger than her just being kumas daughter.
saturn all juiced up like OG kame sennin is hillarious, thanks for that
In a way, this fight is the true test of Luffy’s growth since the timeskip. Luffy didn’t necessarily want to be strong enough to dominate everyone. He wanted to be strong enough to PROTECT whoever he decides to protect.
Now he’s fighting a powerful guy who doesn’t really care about fighting him back and just wants to kill someone he said he’d protect. It’s a whole different kind of engagement, but it’s the one Luffy has been working up to this whole time. Hope he can pull it off.
People dog him, but Luffy has managed to stop one of the fastest people in verse from killing his targets multiple times, despite Kizarus stall tactics.
@@shamefuldisplay9692 he’s basically doing what Rayleigh did for him and his crew back at Sabaody. Luffy has come a looooong way.
it's interesting to think that kisaru "taking his sweet time" may be due to him thinking too quickly and everything seeming too slow in his perspective, so he actually has time to think while being thrown into the water and high speed.
nah he's actually doing everything to end this quickly he not only want to stop the straw hats but he also want to kill stella
so he actually giving all he can to end his altercation with luffy as quickly as possible
@@Wasnt-1you don't have to reply to every comment
@@Wasnt-1 yeah, I didn't say he's not giving his all, just pointing out he may think too quickly so everything slows down in his point of view.
@@Wasnt-1 dude is shooting 1 laser at vegapunk he is clearly not all out .
@@bensylver5113 as if stella could even deflect or evade it himself
one finger is the only thing needed to finish off an old defenseless guy
Weird that Kizaru does what I expected from Lucci:
not straight beating his enemy, but using tricks to get the objective.
It would be funny if zoro beats lucci and after losing he ends up fighting all the strawhats in a row and loses to each one in order 😂
I would actually love to see further twists in the command hierarchy of the pacifistas. Mainly Saturn commanding them to turn on Bonney only at the last moment for them to stop and not adhere to it, a previously unknown remnant of OG Kuma that got carried over making them not want to harm his daughter, and ultimately resulting in a new hidden addition at the top of the hierarchy: Bonney herself. Ripe for chaos to ensue.
I find it hard to imagine that Vegapunkt being commissioned to essentially build weapons of mass destruction for a bunch of supremacists, of whom he clearly has a lot of understanding and who he despises, wouldn't think of building a backdoor into the command hierarchy programming of Pacifistas and Seraphim. It shouldn't be obvious and maybe capable of withstanding a proof of concept test, that the Gorosei hold highest command authority - - but should things really go south, I believe he build in some kind of backdoor.
In response to your comment about Kaidos backstory in the recent anime episod, TOTALLY agree. They A got so much more pathos out of it and did a really good job framing Kaido and Luffy as two folks who use strength to achieve their goals, but Kaido as someone's who couldnt see beyond strength as the ideal. They told us so succinctly why he needs that, because it is how he pushed back against his own oppressors. Loved it.
I'm looking forward to a logia awakening
I never believed in the "Bonney is still a child" theory, but my god if they didn't hammer down Bonney being young I this chapter. It almost makes me a believer in that theory.
Shadow Clone Jutsu was always one of my favorite powers and I always wanted their to be a devil fruit which gives the user this power. Maybe a Bon Chan awakening could do something like this. For now, I'm really happy with Kizaru's light clones
An awakened version of Robin's fruit. Flowers spread.
seem like the clones have the same issue as the naruto clones where their level of strength is completely up in the air.
There is no way of know how powerful the clones are, or what their limitations are. How they are controlled or what they cost to use.
I can’t wait to see Franky get his moment by piloting the ancient robot (this is not copium, it will happen)
Dropped this video at the perfect time! Boss got a flat so I’m sitting outside the job site with 20ish minutes to kill. Thanks @grandlinereview
Crazy theory. Bonnie is a clone. She has been called a young girl by people who could be in the know. She has said multiple times that her dad would not have left her. So Kumas daughter couldve died somehow and thats what motivated him to undergo the operation in the first place. At a primal level, he heard Bonnie was alive and is doing everything he can to get to her.
Definetly more excited about what Saturn will/can do. Yes the iron giant is interesting and i wanna see what will happen with it, however it will most likely be just a short story device that barely matters after egghead while saturn is one of the most important characters in the series. having a chance to gauge their power levels would be great to see and wouls also answer my question of "was Kaido REALLY the strongest in the verse? or did the others just not care about that title?" especially after now seeing how Kizaru is handling Luffy i also feel like his remark of being confident in possibly fighting 2 emperors at once wasnt that much of an overstatement as we originally thought...
Black beard may capture Saturn and use him to control the pacifistas.
I like how Kizaru isnt a threat bc he's stronger than Luffy but because of his speed. He's not trying to beat Luffy, he's distracting him long enough to accomplish his mission
nah he's actually trying to take out luffy so that he could fulfill his main objective which is to kill stella
and remember luffy is a emperor level pirate he doesn't only have billion bounty but kizaru can literally capture him dead or alive
so kizaru was actually trying all his best to end their altercation
@@Wasnt-1Hes giving the minimum effort to keep Luffy at bay by remaining a threat. But if it came down to a moment where he could score a brutal hit against Luffy vs potentially killing Vegapunk, he would zip away towards Einstein without a second thought like he did this chapter
@@BadKarma444 i don't think summoning maybe 50 clones of himself is a minimum effort
luffy just basically took out 50 or something admirals and that goes to show that if luffy also wants to kill kizaru he'd end the admiral's life in a blink of an eye
@@Wasnt-1cope. Kizaru has a taken a total of 0 damage and people like you comment bs like this.
@@Wasnt-1Kizaru literally says he doesn't want to fight Luggy because it's a waste of time. If he wanted to fight he would've fought instead of distracting Luffy. All he cares about is completing his mission
Shoutout to Oda for just ignoring the giant bomb he dropped at the end of the last chapter.
Got to hand it to Oda he gives the fans what they want: an exciting story, interesting characters and more scenes of Nami’s butt.
Lord Ecchi-ro Oda.
I love how people are disappointed that Luffy didnt turn Kizaru into a flashlight or low diffed him. Just shows how bad majority of these casual fans at powerscaling. Probably the same people that believes Oden could've beaten Kaido in a fair match lmao.
Kizaru: "I will beat you Luffy"
*Uses Shadow clone justu*
Kizaru:"I will become Hokage"
Luffy: "what"
Kizaru: "what"
I think when Luffy starts to turn Kizaru's light into rubber is when he'll start having the eye popping effect
I had a quite different understanding of Zoro’s fight with King. I think Zoro meant that if Enma continued to drain his Armament Haki at this rate, he would die. But then he activated his Conqueror’s Haki, which satisfied Enma and stopped the massive Haki drain. So Zoro had discovered a solution to his problem and thus he said “perfect”. I see it as Armament being fast food, while Conqueror’s is a gourmet meal, which Enma was used to from his previous master. So while Zoro certainly still has to improve Conqueror’s Haki and will get gradually exhausted during the fight, I think can use Enma without risking his life.
Kizara doing the Kazuma Mikura type stuff, mans trying to be the new flame king.
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Gear 5 Luffy: Ready to lose, Kizaru!
Kizaru: Hikari Bushin no Jutsu~...
Luffy: HAH?!
I feel like a lot of people were underestimating Kizaru before this chapter. Let's see...
kizarus best bet is just to wait out luffys ability... not sure why he hasn't just ran away
@@gavinma4831he did. He used his clones as a distraction to get back to trying to kill Vega punk
@@gavinma4831 he literally has he has been running around the whole battle stalling for time essentially
Screw the people underestimating Kizaru. Screw those overhyping him too. It's as if there's no balance/in between?
@@scrubelite4915 exactly why for the time being his main goal isn't trying to directly confront Luffy he has been knocking him around and trying to complete the main objective if Luffy runs out of gear 5 then he could make much quicker work of him
yonkotards expected Luffy to destroy Kizaru in this chapter but that still didn't happen lmao
I didnt know that seeing Kizaru shredding on a skateboard was something I needed to see, but here we are.
Sorry, was waiting for official release, but I think Luffy was talking about mihawks ghost gf's hallows rather than holograms. I know.ita a small thing, but I find it cool cause it means that Luffy actually does have some memory of her, which we can say is more impressive since he found her as somewhat of a danger
I suspect that Luffy's haki can hurt Kizaru and his light clones, however, I think Kizaru is doing a Katakuri and moving himself around the attack so he can't be hit. I mean, with his speed he should be able to do this technique quicker than anyone else.
Was a really cool fight while it lasted but tbh really disappointed at the amount of fighting between Kizaru and Luffy given the chapter was called Kizaru vs Luffy. They attacked each other only twice each.
light can be in many places at the same time. this demonstrates that lights are both waves and particles at the same time
Knowing how much Oda and Kishimoto respect each others work, I wonder if having light clones (as opposed to shadow clones) was written on purpose.
For some reason when Vegapunk went out to save Bonney, the last chapter that Garp appeared when he talked about the youth being the future came to mind. Maybe it is possible that Vegapunk will stay behind to save Bonney, Sentomaru and his "children"(his satellites). And it is possible that he'll be spared because WG will need him for the Mother Flame, since I believe York will leave with the BB crew.
The Admirals vs Yonko discussion has been going crazy this arc. I feel like everyone forgotten what Kuzan and Sakazuki did to Punk Hazard! I never understood why tier lists have a Yonko tier and below that an Admiral tier because everyone just assumed that Yonko was peak when the only time that we have seen an admiral go all out it was against another admiral and they literally changed the climate of an entire island.
well because of the fact that if you swap the 3 og admirals at mf with kaido, bm, and shanks, it would be such a quick slaughter it would be sad.
The reason is quite obvious.
It's Marineford.
Whitebeard acts as if it wasn't for his age, his sickness and his wounds he would have crushed sakazuki
And Shanks manages to stop the war even with 3 admirals and a fleet admiral being up against black beard and a dying whitebeard crew
Maybe we say that had they continued fighting they would have defeated shanks. But they were afraid of taking too many losses.
How would that happen if Shanks was not stronger than at least 1 of the 4 admirals+ garp present.
The last evidence is Rayleigh
If we assume the Yonko are the same level as Gold Roger, then his 2nd in command is able to go toe to toe with Kizaru
If Admirals > Yonko, but Rayleigh = Admirals. You are saying Rayleigh > Yonko.
@@16m49x3 first of all I am saying admirals = Yonko, second yes Rayleigh is as close to a Yonko as you can get without being one just like Garp. Also, Kizaru challenged Rayleigh to a sword fight…
Your answer is Haki. The Admirals have not shown Haki comparable to the emperor's
@@henrytudor8537 the haki argument is literally the argument used in Mihawk vs Shanks. Just because they haven’t shown haki doesn’t mean they don’t have it.
Lucci finally acknowledging Luffy as an emperor was nice to see
My thoughts & opinions of the chapter:
1. It's no surprise that the flames on Zoro's sword confirms that we will see "the King of Hell" again very soon. However, I now wonder if Oda will take the chance to reveal some more clues on the Grim Reaper that tried to hurt him back in Wano!
2. Idk what Saturn will really do in the very next chapter, but I think that it will not be good for Luffy & the others even if they do have the upper hand with Kizaru!
1. maybe it's them showing that zoro means everything telling about lucci's level of power that zoro doesn't even have to go all out to kill lucci even when he's already in his awakened form
2. i think and would be nice to see jinbei and sanji to temporarily take on saturn whilst luffy is dealing with millions of admirals (kizaru) and zoro on lucci
For some reason i doubt saturn would even do something. Maybe another chapter of him just...sitting there.
i always believe the reaper was enma, he talks about how if he uses his haki the same way constantly he will die but its a good thing for him type shit, i think that was the personification of enma
He can override the pacifistas
@meow-ic6gz i think what zoro was implying that luffy is far stronger than lucci and thus doesn't deserve the chance to fight the captain when his second in command is strong enough to take on lucci ,and at the same time subtlety confirming that zoro thinks luffy is stronger than himself.
i dont think zoro said anything about lucci being weaker than his self/zoro.
Zoro has gone from fighting minorities to fighting endangered animals, Jesus Roronoa
I have a way out-there theory based on very loose speculation for a potential twist if Stella dies, come with me on this: as far as we know, food on egghead all comes out of machines. The nearest and only fruit on the island that his devil fruit could reincarnate in that we know of for sure are on the tangerine trees on the Sunny. We had a failed rescue attempt at marine ford and a devil fruit reincarnation at Stella's old lab in the past, soo?
And hey, Franky may have turned down the mera mera no mi on Dressrosa, but would he turn down the chance for exclusive and direct access to Punk Records? SUPER futuristic battle franky technology for the rest of the story? Please and thank you!
Anyone else on this line of thinking or just me hoping that apple gramps goes donut-Ace mode and sacrifices himself for Luffy?
Something's that's been on my mind since Shaka got.. de-helmeted .. if all the satellites are connected to Punk Records and if a satellite goes bye-bye, do the other satellites and Stella get that aspect of the unalived satellites?
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Kizaru is a skater? damn, now i know why i love his personality
Looks like Kizaru wasn't lying, when he said that he could handle Kaido and Big Mom
Only yonko I imagine that’s fast enough to touch him is shanks
No Admiral can handle 2 Yonko as much as no Yonko can handle 2 Admirals. Do you actually think that Luffy's gonna lose again after this long-awaited rematch? Reminders that it's too late for another timeskip as the other Yonko are already going after the One Piece.
He would have got folded. If Marco can touch him them Kaido and Big mom can.
Marco is. Owhere near kizaru level. G5 that defeated kaido can’t even hit him so how can kaido and bm can even lands a hit? Lol. He’s definitely not beating 2 emperor but he’s mission there is to prevent them. He would probably harassed both crew especially with his clones. Kaido vs kizaru I can see can go eitherway but bm vs kizaru is not debatable at this point. Bm is too dumb to even make kizaru take her seriously, and all kizaru has to do is attack bm with clones and starves her to death 😂
@@gamerzay69 I agree, it's funny that a couple years ago everybody thought that Shanks was the weakest Yonko, but now everyone agrees that he is the strongest after Whitebeards death.
We've seen Luffy make goggles out of his cloud hair, it wouldnt surprise me to see him make more Luffy's too!
I think Kaido was more affected by luffy's devil fruit because he had no idea this fruit existed, while Kizaru talked about rumors about the fruit. Also, kaido was really tired at this point
Whilst carrying Onigashima
And he is much older than both Luffy and Kizaru.
@@zirak93-2 kaido was 1 year older than kizaru
@@zenkaizz didn't factcheck myself. LOL. Then it's more likely that Kaido was more tired and because of the fruit discussed above.
I wonder how much being in dragon form drains? I mean kaido probably mastered is fruit but it still must be tiring
I think Kizaru is so confident in his abilities combined with him already knowing about Luffy and have already beat Luffy, he truly believes he can be Luffy.
Kizaru actually trolling G5.Bro is too high to function properly.He was enjoying the spin Luffy gave him.Yonkotards gonna have hard few weeks
It's not like Luffy is going all out in G5 either. We haven't even seen him use the conquers coating yet. It feels like they're both dicking with each other.
Lets gooooo
@@indifference1015true Kizaru has also been using his fruit powers only and no adv haki so far, and cmon man it's a Kizaru W that he was able to hurt G5 with only his fruit powers and pushed Luffy into his strongest form, while Kizaru has taken no damage and checkmated Luffy twice
@@indifference1015we have a monkey fight.
Did you forget that Kaido fought the 9 scabbards, luffy and the super novas,then Yamato then gear 5th luffy all while lifting an Island? I'm sure it would of been the same with Kaido with the eye popping
Kizaru - embodies the Beware the Silly Ones trope for a reason.
Quality reviews as always, thank you 🙏
I actually first noticed it when we first saw Bonnie, but I chalked it up to Oda sensei’s overall improvement in drawing 🤣, but the ladies definitely look more detailed😏
oh, come on... when tien shin used the clone tech for the first time it was actually pretty well implemented, with a strategy that covered all angles of the stage, and was only defeated because goku noted that 12 eyes looking for him would be weak to a good ol' solar flare xD