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5 hours ago? I must be trippin the vid came out 13 mins ago
*Not stussy, but Ms. Backin
20$ for a cringey anime phone case? nty.
Even I wanna know how a video uploaded 30 mins ago has a comment 6 hours ago 😮😮
Promoting stolen art??? 🤢🤢🤢
Seeing Kuma have a brief moment of freedom and happiness was so nice but I just KNOW Oda's going to rip it away from him next week. :(
Lololololololol
Gege would be proud 😂
@@gintoki_sakata__ LMAO 😂
Considered how old the event is, and how young Bonne (supposedly) is, Kuma and Ginny had some long years together.
Kuma eventually became the king of sorbet king .
Ginny- “The world moves according to how those in power see fit”
Doflamingo- “write that down she spittin”
He probably got the rabbits sentence from this scenario too
And that's how his speech of Justice came to be.
@@dustgun3861 that’s the joke…
stole his peach from a child 💀
@@McDudes ironically he was 3 during the events here
Gloriosa being a former member of Rocks' crew sheds light on why she found so impressive that a man with conqueror's haki like Luffy would bow his head for the good of others without hesitation. That's something that no one in that crew full of conquerors would've done, specially Rocks.
That's something pirates wouldn't do in general.
The panel of Ginny and Kuma's sobbing faces as the enjoy their meal together really hit me hard in the feels 🥺🥺😭😭
yep. that also set ODA and one piece apart. he could've focused on the "cool" part of god valley like other anime/manga. but he wanted to show us the human side of the story.
the fact you wrote such a comment, it makes me think you had been through a similar shit. or you just way too observant got a strong attention to details cause;
It is a true feeling; I lived a whole week eating the same dish to survive and then I finally could move to a better place, on my first meal I was shedding tears of joyfulness unconsciously while eating. I still know how that feels. today I am in a way way better place, that is why when I see ppl throw food it always takes me as a shock, my mind can't comprehend such.
When it gets animated I’m gonna break
is that why bonnie is such a glutton because ginny keep feeding her until full and teach her that full tumy equal happiness😢
Yeah I've had times where I didn't have food had to wait till next day but not knowing the feeling of being full😢😭 I was done
The saddest part in my opinion is Kuma thanking Ivankov, claiming hell never forget his face. Now I understand Iva's reaction during the war...
FUCK I never thought of that. God that scene hits so much harder now, I genuinely feel like tearing up thinking about how painful that moment was😢
Meh. Ivankov knew and the rest was also offscreen so we'll never know what he told him after they met.
Iva and Kuma worked with Dragon to make the revolutionary army
you turkish?
Last time I seen that episode I imagine Ivankov saying it wait whattt
Mihawk “I dont hunt rabbits with a canon” feels a LITTLE weird now after this chapter.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Mihawk was related to a celestial dragon or gods knight family like Shanks, and has a disdain for the strong overkilling the weak. Oda seems to be changing the one piece live action to be more direct with the long term story. For example, the prominent presence of Garp and Koby shortly after Hachinosu in the manga. Given Mihawk and Shank’s chemistry they will both know about what went down on God Valley and the both probably loathed the events.
@@ldptdogbone9334 oda was completely against the whole garp thing in the live action and its the thing he hates the most about it too but he let it go through
@@TritoXDreally? All I’ve been hearing about the one piece is that they did exactly what oda wanted, but that seemed really weird to me- do you have a source? I’d love to have that on hand
@TritoXD that's wrong info though? All the changes were done because Oda wanted them. What is the source of ur info?
@@aruhik Steven Maeda is the source, just go inform yourself 🤦♂️
Speaking about Kuma being a martyr it’s so beautiful to me that even decades after the god valley incident Kuma still wears a target on his shirt. But instead of it being on his back like he and the rest of the kids have it on this chapter, he voluntarily wears it on his chest, showing he’s accepted his role as a matyr
I really like this idea that Roger doesn`t have a devil fruit, because he was saving himself for Nika Nika no Mi, but it evaded him as he was not the one meant to have it. It would also explain why Shanks supported Luffy so much, as the fruit chose him.
shanks is the devil fruit roger just couldn't eat a baby.
Imagine that big scene of Kaido descending from the clouds at the beginning of Wano, but instead of a dragon, it's just an absolutely giant head
Galaxy dragon wink sounds scary
Heeee haw haw haw haw Hormone BAGUA
And Yamato running around Onigashima "FATHER PLEASE TURN ME INTO A MAN! I AM ODEN!!!"
HEEEEE-HAWWWWWWWW
Mastermind
I love the way Oda recontextualize Kuma's character and powers. More than 15 years ago Kuma was introduced as an unfeeling cyborg Warlord, that devastated Luffy, his crew and us readers with his overwhelming devil fruit abilities. But now seeing Kuma's tragic past and his sweet and caring demeanor amidst the literal hell he's experiencing is truly heart breaking. Add to that how and why he got his fruit. The same powers that tortured and almost killed Zoro, split everyone in the crew up, destroyed Thriller Bark and took down Little Oars Jr. with little to no effort, saved hundreds of slaves and relieved people of their pain. What an amazing character development and writing.
I just can't believe that something as simple as a paw paw fruit is soo cool and overpowered 😂
my question is if zoro didn't need to take in luffy's pain (the kids he took pain from didnt need anyone to take their pain) why did he do it?
@@antimicswhat if kuma took it?
@@antimics maybe he can just manifest the pain as a bubble like what he did with Luffy's pain and his memory and It'll just be a bubble until someone touches it. Like what Zoro did.
@@antimicsmaybe its more on how zoro proves his resolve to his crew. How he is willing to sacrifice or take all the burden of luffy. He was there as a warlord ( a government dog). If they were just a bunch of no ones he would have just captured or killed them. And maybe zoro decision contributed to saving them in saobody
Watching all of the Rock's pirates together in one pannel feels soooo overwhelming, almost unfair. It is like watching the 2006 football Brazil team. Except, well, they are not actually a team, but still, just seeing them together is intimidating.
it's like an avenger line-up shot/scene
neither brazil were lol they were for a show, filming their training come on
@@waleedismail5248it’s called having a personality to show, don’t see that in any of the trashy American teams 🫠
Those last few panels where ginny was crying saying "my tummy is full" almost brought some tears. There is nothing more heart touching, at least in oda's story, than a child crying from the happiness of knowing what being full felt like😢❤.
And in all honesty I'm starting to think rocks could've been luffy mixed with a little bit of early Belamy. But there was a Big news Morgan type character (maybe Morgan's himself) that was turning even his good deeds into tragedies, or they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and said screw let's take the hate and fight everyone😂
It's kinda funny, all it took was a shadowy figure with an evil grin, the long assumed fact that he fought with the "good guys" (Roger + Garp) in God Valley, and the fact that he had current-day antagonists in his crew.
I might be misremembering this, but did Oda ever even infer that they were actually 'evil' pirates?
@kaizokuo5850 "they were a crew of monsters lead by a devil among men" I think is what they say about them, so a lot of these "monsters" but it's kind of how big news Morgan's turns all of the straw hats W's into monstrous acts??
The Hands of Liberation...
Without those hands, there is no Luffy. In Sabaody, The Hands of Liberation started a chain reaction that eventually lead to the rebirth of Nika. Probably in Egghead too
Quite beautiful since Kuma dreamed of being liberated by nika
@osamabinlaggin911 exactly
@osamabinlaggin911nika liberated nika
Nika is a false idol that stands for death and anarchy. Glory to the World Government.
There was a cool callback to Marineford in this chapter. In Marineford Ivankov says that no one has forgotten her face while fighting Kuma.
When Ivankov leaves in this chapter Kuma says: "I'll never forget you" and Ivankov replies: "No one ever does"
Hit me in the feels.
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@@User-19089I don't have Twitter.
@@User-19089not everyone uses twitter
Not only that, when Garp smacked Marco to the ground it was Ivankov who commented on his title as 'Hero of the marines'. The pure shock not only came from Garp's reputation alone but probably also because he saw the guy fight in his *prime* which would've been a terrifying thing to witness.
@@User-19089 Twitter sucks and I'm a Twitter user
I love the little detail of child Kuma living and praying in the church. It makes sense why he holds a Bible everywhere he goes
Hearing Garps saying "I've told you many times! Do not poke the hive or you will get stung" hits differently today.
The fact Kuma wears a jacket with a target on it as an adult makes such sense now too
same with his link with religion
And why he carries a Bible everywhere
That "target" is also a Celtic cross, a simbol depicted with a Celtic god called Lugh whom wielded a spear an a sword and was a Sun/Light god with his epithet being "of the long arm"
@@Ryquard1It would be if it was an actual cross but it isn't. It's a circle with four lines on, not a cross with a circle on it.
Kuma has the saddest story in the series. One can save millions, but millions couldn't save one.
it's less painful than what i expected to be fair. i imagined worst, mostly when bonney took the paw in egghead basement (but it was offscreen)
@@chrisbelos2834we still have not reached when Kuma turns intoa cyborg and probably bonney mom death
Your quote made the already obvious Jesus analogue even more so.
@@Elchinodawnkuma's father and mother death too, they look so optimistic despite being chained and being a slave, they gave hope to kuma and molded him into the great person he became
Just want to say, your scripts are always a roller coaster of emotion to listen to. As much of an impact the chapter itself had, your deductions, connections and hypothesis makes the experience even better. Can't wait for more.
He's the reason I'm reading one piece weakly now. Helps me grasp the true story telling going on
Hey Liam, the rock’s pirate, we see at 4:43 in your video is actually a character we already saw in the story at thriller bark, he was one of the zombie generals who had a bottom half of an elephant (if i remember well) and had the exact same helmet as the one we are seeing in this small panel (which hyped me up because when we saw his zombie form in thriller bark he was the most imposing zombie general in thriller bark). I had a feeling that this guy was a rocks pirate before because we see many pirates who were/ could’ve been in the rocks pirate (i.e captain john, silver axe who may be the zombie wielding the giant axe). So we can conclude that this guy (at 4:43) isn’t ochouku/Wang zi because Blackbeard took control of hachinosu one or two years after the events which happened on thriller bark where we saw the corpse of this still unnamed member of the rocks pirate.
Oda: Hey look it’s Kuma and Ivankov’s backstory, cool huh?
Audience: Whats that behind them?
Oda: Oh nothing, just future King of the Pirates Gol D Roger, Dark King Rayleigh, Rocks D Xebec, Shiki, 3/4 future Emperors of the Sea, 1 Emperor of the Sea’s genocidal daddy, Prime Garp, and Saint Saturn, no biggie. Anyway y’all ever heard of churches?
I'm pretty sure I've seen that on reddit 😅 But that's exactly what this chapter was
@@evgeniygerkus9242precisely. Oda dropping a massive backstory on another massive background event.
@@Phantom_Zone 1096 could have been a heartwrenching, but at the same time wholesome and sweat story of Kuma and Ginny. Why Oda had to include the begging of the God Valley incident is beyond me. I couldn't properly enjoy either because of that.
@@evgeniygerkus9242I found it guys the objectively worst take to come out of this chapter
@@SeksBott69 cool, no one asked
The idea that Bonnie was a Big Mom clone was fun for a while, but it is looking more and more like she is just actually Kumas daughter and i am more then ok with that.
lol, I thought that this chapter bm looks exactly like older Bonnie
@@vipvip-tf9rwsame
sometimes the obvious straightforward answer is the right one
There’s still time for Oda to pull a switcheroo on us, but it’s looking less likely
Bonney was one of my biggest candidates for luffys mother, but it seems like this will not be the case afterall
Consider these parallels between rocks and straw hats
Luffy || rocks || captain who attracts the strongest
Zoro || whitebeard || drinks possible wing of the captain
Sanji || Shikki || flies and argues with the right hand
Nami || Linlin || witches who control weather
Robin || Stussy || assassin with demon powers
Franky || wang zhi || both look like giant tanks
Chopper || Kaiod || young zoan ‘monster’
Brook || Captain John ||swordsman, captain of their own crew at a point, fights after death
Vivi || Gloriosa || both Monarchs who left their country to be pirates
Jinbe || fishman || both fishman
Usopp || Shady guy || least hyped 😂
Don't think whiteboard was the right hand, and the sanji shaking connection is pretty loose.
One of my favorite things in this chapter is the fact Streusen is in there and hardly anyone noticed just due to the Allstate lineup of the rest of the Rocks Crew (he’s to the bottom left of Whitebeard, barely in that panel lol).
Another thing I love is Bonney’s crew is given just the tiniest bit of depth due to this. Sure it’s just inferred but that’s what I love about this series. It’s gone on for so long that at any point even unnamed characters can have inferred depth or motivations.
I still can’t believe that rock and log eating fiend made it off God Valley alive. I mean, big mom would want him for his fruit (and he’s Perosperos dad maybe????) but still like wtf
Egghead is a serious contender for one of the best One Piece arcs ever.
Its already my top 1. Only the landing (ending) can change my mind.
Better than snooze fest wano and dressrosa
@@pessiescobar4707 i wont accept any wano or dressrorsa slender. Both Arcs are goated.
@@GioHimonProand bloated tbf
@@Vracka good one 🤣
Ginny is officialy the greatest mastermind in all of one piece
Law: Teach me your ways.
Ginny: I'm 13.
Law: But your plan worked!
@@the-wanderer11113*
@@the-wanderer111shes not 4 lol
@@giobregu my bad
@@the-wanderer111lmao
I love how GOda put Morgan as the representative of the ones who always making things more problematic than it should be, giving headlines, naming the group's, or even stirring public opinion as he wants.
Morgans is a grade A instigator
He the real MVP
11:35
yes we do, she's 13. at the very end of the chapter she says she's 4 years Kuma's senior, and Kuma is 9
The fact that if ginny wasn't there the whole story from beginning would change is insane
She literally is the reason why Shanks ended up with Roger if she wasn't there we could have met a celestial dragon shanks
Yea its crazy how shes the 3rd most pivotal character in the series right after lily and joyboy based on crucial events that needed to happen for luffy or any future joyboys to stand a chance against imu or blackbeard, right after her, is roger,shanks,kuma, ivankov and law. Without roger and shanks luffy would probs be a bandit, without kuma the strawhats would be captured or killed on saboady and without ivankov and law luffy would of died on impel down or marineford
I thought it was a nice hint by Oda to include Kuma calling Ginny a "Glutton". A foreshadowing to their daughter: "Glutton" Jewelry Bonney, perhaps??
Or Bonney being Ginny s clone
@@tremor230 Doubt it, not even Oda would find that interesting after already having a bunch of clone reveals.
@@tobiaswedinthing is the clone hypothesis is strong due to the fact that in japanese Vegapunk called Bonnie a toddler or a word used for very small children. Is possible that Bonnie dies early and they clone her and implant the late Bonnie memories on a new body thus Vegapunk calling Bonney a child
@@Ryquard1 If you ever talked to or heard old people they tend to call anyone and everyone kids, youngsters and so on. I think you're over thinking things here. If you haven't noticed, Vegapunk and Saturn who are the only two who has called her a child are very old themselves.
That's not what foreshadowing means though. In this case it'd be a callback
I'm not sure if I'm just slow but your points toward the end of the video about him living in the church just helped me make the connection that Bartholomew was the original name of Saint Nathaniel, a Christian/Catholic saint, and one of the Twelve Disciples who was considered a martyr, being flayed and beheaded for converting a king to Christianity; such a strong throughline to what we are witnessing to Kuma's story right now. This manga is so deep that even after years and years, I'm making connections! You're such a scholar - truly inspirational!
kudos to the art team, they work incredibly quick
they must be sketching as they read the chapter lol
It’s so crazy to see Roger, who’s always been this larger than life character, going up against impossible odds in the same way Luffy does now. Whitebeard became his biggest rival later on, but here he is challenging an entire crew of Whitebeard level opponents. Legend.
He's litterally larger than life too- its easy to forget because so many of the characters around him are but he is like 8 ft tall. Remember oden's wife was a normal sized woman but she only came up to oden's waist, Garp and Roger are close in height etc.
the point being that it would be really funny to litterally see Luffy among these characters because he is normal human size, which is ironic considering Roger was like shanks, the guy going around and being amazing with no fruit powers just skill backed up by Haki.
Rocks Pirates is strong but to say the entire crew is WB level is a stretch.
@@AstroSullyatleast shiki bm and Kaido is close
Shiki is close. But BM and Kaido were not in their prime. WB clearly the top dog of that crew alongside Rocks. Heck he doesn't even view Xebec as his captain. @@ranjoso
I swear ODA knows sooo much secret about this world and he's giving it to us through manga. One Piece story/world has events that correlates with our world events. It's just mind blowing. I'm saying this because I'm so much into world history, knowing the truth and every time ODA amazes me with how he does it. Soo much similarities with our world history. Only if people knew. Hats off to god ODA!!
The fact that the slavery was so common place Ginny said "when" instead of "what age" and Kuma can just go "four" really got me.
could be a translation thingy majiki 😂
I’m pretty sure we know how old Ginny is because later in the chapter she says that she is 4 years older than the 9 year old Kuma, making her 13
i pretty sure she said "even though im 4 i need a to act like an older brother"
ok i looked back she is only 4
@@AntiCanchire read the tcb scan she clearly refers to her as the elder and sees herself as Kuma's big bro saying "now then, since I'm four years your elder" then two kids throwing rocks at kuna say "what! No way you are only nine"
i did reread it she said i know im only 4 years old but i have to act like your big sis.@@drvinylscratch1936
@@drvinylscratch1936in other translation,she says "even though im 4 years old, i've got to act as your big sis! I have to feed the young Kumachi!"
Give that young kuma a hugg.. I'm literally crying from his backstory
I'm pretty sure that we do actually know Ginny's age.
She specifically mentions that she is 4 years older than Kuma, and then the kids poking fun at Kuma say "there's no way you're only 9"
So at that moment, Ginny is 13
I imagine it'd be pretty awkward if Captain John had the same epithet while he was on Rocks' crew. In my head canon, we're seeing the days of "Long John" the pirate.
Elder Nyon aged somewhat gracefully compared to Buckingham Stussy when they became short old women years later.
And then there's Hancock who at 60 will still look the same with just a different hairstyle
@@micow9951pretty sure Oda has not drawn her at 40 and 60
@@DaityaGodhe did
@@micow9951He won't do them dirty
@@pandakun8556 Rofta_55 is the artist that drew Hancock 40 and 60 not Oda. Just want to make sure, but she does look incredibly gorgeous.
My theory is that Rocks had the Lotion-Lotion Fruit and once he died, all the former female Rocks pirates lived on to have terrible skin.
Lol
wait. you might have a point
Big mom has one of the best skin cares of the manga tho
no, oda bases character women from Asian.
still young until 60 and after that.
boom..
@@sungodnika3545racist but true so i'll let it slide
It actually took me a second to realize the gravity of Straw Hat Roger.
"Oh he has the straw hat, yeah that makes sense, he hasn't met shanks yet"
"OH, he has THE STRAW HAT"
He had the straw hat in the anime in Rayleighs flashback in episode 523 when he first met Rodger
Actually we do know Ginny is 13yo, saying herself she's 4 years older than Kuma and him being bullied as "no way you are only 9yo". What she did is still incredibly impressive for a child her age.
I didn't expect that seeing Captain John would feel like such a full circle moment. Thriller Bark stocks are up.
Don't worry we'll come back to it when we get to elbalf......and only see another side where another character we didn't know was on the island is
"God Valley, from the cradled perspective of 2-year old Shanks"
@@lssl1306i wanted to write that joke but it felt too easy. I was gonna guess fisher tiger after that or toki as she loves to time travel
Older stussy and glorosia. Were present Hancock or either of them can tell the story
@@ivanbluecoolcan't go back to the past...
WAIT NVM BLACKBEARD DIDN'T KNEW ODEN 40 YEARS AGO!
You should actually worry, Kuma's flashback has moved on from that island and there is absolute zero narrative reason to go back to God Valley so R.I.P ever getting a Rocks face reveal or any nugget of who fought who there.
I will be honest, seeing young Garp and young Rodger brought up old reminded me of the theories about those two being brothers. I know it is unlikely but they both look surprisingly similar in this chapter.
The way the celestial dragons called the hunted "rabbits" made me remember how Mihawk said "I don't hunt rabbits with a cannon" the first time he fougth Zoro. Maybe there is some connection to be made here
The more this goes on the more i'm starting to think that Crocodiles Secret is that he was somehow one of the kids during the god valley incident.
Oh shoot.. Ginny is Crocodile 😮😮
This makes exponentially more sense than 'croco mom' theory
The moment of Happiness between Kuma and Ginny is basically there heavenly commercial break, but by next week’s chapter we will be going back to our…regularly scheduled program.
😭
The story in this chapter alone can be a stand alone manga, better than some other series, it had all the emotions and excitement, and that ending 🥲. Truly GODA
You should’ve talked about Kuma being called “The Hand of Liberation”. Makes me feel like it’s possible Kuma and Luffy’s fruits are “friends” for lack of better terms. Also makes it sound like maybe there’s multiple mythic zoans that the WG erased from the records and Kuma’s fruit is one of them alongside Luffy’s because they were seen as compatible or the will of the fruits were likely to work together regardless of who got the fruits.
Imagine if Rocks is actually Luffy's look-alike, that would be wild.
What if he's his grandson.
So wild it's kinda stupid to even think. We saw Luffy's look-alike in this very chapter and it's pre mustache-Roger.
@@zachturner1394 so dragon banged rocks daughter...damn dragon i see you
@@tobiaswedin Roger and Luffy don't look the same btw, Shanks and Luffy is closer but the eyes are still way different
@@zachturner1394 I would love to think that Rocks is Dragon's dad, that would be a cool plot
Saturn and Kuma's meeting on God Valley feels very foreshadowing for what's happening on Egghead.
Man,if one piece decied to start the story from this chapter and went backwords using kuma as the main charecter that story still would have been the greatest story ever written.I love how rich world oda san has created where every individual charecter has the potential to have their own rightfull manga.Just awesome.
Probably not. Although it still be fairly popular.
I've read the chapter quite a lot of times already and the last pannels are making me more and more sad with each reading, knowing they have their moment of peace... aaaah it's breaking me agaaaain! 😢
Shout out to the artist and team for doing all of that in such a short period
Kuma is quickly becoming one of my favorite characters, and the flashback isn't even done yet...
Liam, i truly love your videos, while i started reading the one piece manga from my local library when i was 9, now i am 17 and still read the mangas that are released and the chapters weekly. this weeks chapter was insane!! your content adds to the life oda-sama already gives to one piece. however, i don’t appreciate how much you shit on ace because when i was reading the mangas i was heartbroken when ace died (i was 10) and ace until recently was one of my favorite characters(besides zoro of course).
oda works fast but grandlinereview illustrators work faster xdxd also, cant stop crying from this chapter, so much LORE and emotions 🤧 help
Puts ivankov shock at Kuma attacking him at Marineford into perspective. Seeing a long time friend turning rogue must be hell of a heartbreak.
And damn Elder Nyon was a looker back in her days.
And of course Mingo a former celestial had to be the one to put salt in the wound
he seem more pissed than heartbroken
All women in One Piece go through a phase in their life where they look like a supermodel
This shows how boa will look when she gets old
Seeing Rodger with the straw hat is AWESOME! So happy we got this and I can’t wait for more
It's was also in episode 523 when Rayleigh watches the straw hats leave sabaody
Excited to see the events that lead Kuma and Ivankov to get the fruits so easily.
I feel like even with all the chaos going on, or even BECAUSE of the chaos going on, a top marine, or gods knight would have been ordered to guard the chests.
It's not a big event, but i just wanna see how that person got lured away. Someone from rocks or rogers crew inadvertently changed the course of history from it
Someone mentioned that the orphan kids from mother caramel were part of holy knights...blew my mind*😳 goda strikes again!*
The ending was so great im not even dissapointed about god valley.
Oh man, just seeing this flashback and knowing how Kuma ended up makes me shiver. Oda's so good at writing tragedies.
It's also cool that Kuma foreshadowed Bonney by calling Ginny a "glutton"
When they mentioned in the chapter 'that' being taken from Hachinosu, my immediate thought was of the Nika fruit. If the Nika fruit had been safeguarded on Pirate Island and the Marines suddenly snatched it up, the island and it's leadership would certainly be upset.
I now believe that instead of rocks being revealed to be an evil genius mastermind, he is instead going to be a buggy type character. A character who has stumbled into success or notoriety for a reason not known yet. Although things could change with the official translation, whitebeard calls rocks and idiot and a moron. Stussy in response, says too whitebeard “not you too.” This would be an ultimate bait and switch from Oda, and he’s already laid the foundation for it with Cross Guild, who are just that. The heavy hitters on the rocks pirates are all benefiting from rocks’ knowledge or notoriety, and that’s why they’re staying. In chapter 957, a marine said it’s hard to imagine one man leading 3 of the four emperors as we know them today, which is why I think it would be such a classic oda moment for rocks to be a goofball character.
Could be... I think Rocks is in truth, Luffy's grandfather = the father to Dragon... Dragon is Monkey in name alone, because the love between him and Luffy's mom...
There's a reason Oda hasn't revealed Rocks' appearance yet.
That was a great chapter. One of the best. A lot of emotional highs and lows and tons of questions presented, but also some that were answered. The two panels of Kuma chopping up the firewood and carrying it to the town to sell choked me up a little bit. Such an innocent and unassuming scene that it's just beautiful.
ivankov is so amazing in this chapter , his unbreakable will and even his plan to go for the devil fruits , and him being ready to sacrifice himself so koma and the rest can survive, when he faced death (with his massive face) he still held to a pure goal.
I read a theory about Gloriosa being the mother of Yamato, so her being a member of the Rocks Pirates makes the pieces fall into place.
Someone give kuma a hug. He definitely deserves it. Same with bonney they got so screwed over by the world government.
Wow oda you managed to outdo yourself in this chapter by giving us so many connections established long ago.
Nice
This chapter genuinely had me stunned and I gotta agree with you on film RED, I would’ve loved to see that revealed in the manga instead of the movie a lot more.
In the panel with all the Rocks pirates lined up, right above Whitebeard there is a figure jumping ahead. He also seems to have the same kind of weapon that Blackbeard has used, those 3 claw knuckles and his hat looks similar to Buggys hat with hair tassles.
I think that's Rocks.
The thing with Roger's mustache is not a mistake- he had to grow it mid-battle to overcome everything that happened there.
Amazing how kuma started as a tyrant villain in our eyes and over time we've slowly liked him more and more until he's legit one of the most heroic, noble and loving people in the entire series.
It makes me think that "Tyrant" title is because either the WG tries to paint him as a villain that took over the sorbet kingdom, or he willingly takes on that role to make sure the kingdom doesn't get punished for his actions.
@@timothycarney9652 I've heard that first theory but I really like the second theory. Lines up with his religious nature too that he would sacrifice his reputation for others
Pick on someone your own size is definitely my favorite quote from today's chapter.
It's such a genius reversal of that trope lol
Oda perfected the sacred art that is known to us as Blue Balling.
That's why Elder Nyan is so strong. She is invincible, literally can't die
Oda is playing with me feelings. To be honest i did not care for Kuma's fate that much. But holy shit now I SOO want for him to be saved somehow. This guy doesn't deserve the hell he will go through.
When the Rocks Pirates go for a walk, they asked the World Nobles how's their health plan.
Apparently it was great.
a very enthusiastic walk
Hellsing Abridged?
You my good sirs, are chads. 🍷🗿
LMAOOO, Thanks, now i have a mental image of Rocks telling his crew to "T A K E A W A L K"
Props to your animator for the amazing Roger artwork
My theory is we are going to see those two kids / Bonnie’s crew members again, if they were defeated by the Blackbeard pirates they were probably enslaved on fullalead island, but Koby just freed a bunch of slaves from there and with Bonnie being such a big part of the egghead arc, how nice would it be for her crew to come back.
I dont think they arrived for a specific devil fruit.
Lets not forget that devil fruits in general are still rare,mystical and powerful.
And we have (potentially) 6 of them in the same place! Regardless if they are trash tier fruits, they are still rare.
Kuma was my beloved favorite from the start! Actually he was the first character from OP i've ever seen. I was very intrigued by this giant figure holding a bible and he might have induced my decision to go on this journey. I felt Luffy's sadness at Sabaody, but I myself felt sad when Kuma says farewell to him. He's (was?) just the best.
Chapter full with rollercoasters, yet it manages to conclude in such a peaceful manner.
Kuma saying "I will never forget your face as long as I live" broke me. Because Iva asked him how he could forget his face during the paramount war.
Oda is setting this up to be the most heartbreaking experience ever for Kuma. Gege would be proud 😂😂
Bogard was by far the best part of this chapter
like catching the sight of an almost extinct animal
Its like oda replied to us asking why he wasnt there at hachinosu
@@xebec995he was there, he just didn’t do anything. You can see him in a background panel. Which shouldn’t be surprising since just being there is literally the only thing Bogard has ever done
@@RoadtoArkham oh i didnt notice lol
4:23 Ikr! I have been thinking about Thriller Bark non stop since the scans came out! How did Moria get their bodies? Where were they?
I love Kuma but im i the only one who wants more back story of Golden lion Shiki?
Seeing Gloriosa as part of the Rocks pirates blew my mind and the chapter did make me wonder something. If Roger gave the straw hat to Shanks and Shanks gave it to Luffy, who gave the hat to Roger? Also is Oda ever going to tell us what happened to Luffy’s mother.
My theory on Luffy's mom and, and dad/grandfather (the other) below:
Luffy's mom "is" IMU! Or at least, Imu is a devil fruit that controls the one that consumes it. Right now its in Luffy's mom, it wants Vivi next.
As for Luffy's dad, I don't think Dragon is a true Monkey, he was "adopted" into the family after he and Luffy's mom fell in love... you see, Dragon's REAL father, is ROCKS.
Luffy's grandparents are Garp D. Monkey and Rocks D. Xebec!!
In my Assumption when Big Mom was shouting in the past asking where kaido was(Kaido BigMom Flashback in Hachinosu). She wasnt going to ask why he didnt help at Godvalley/Where he was at the Godvalley Incident. Instead that he just stole the fruit that big mom captured from the island and dipped away. Which made her obviously mad because she stated earlier "Finders Keepers".
She says he owes her for it, so it could mean that he stole it, but since we do see her treating him as a little brother like figure it could just be something like that, and she regularly goes and bothers him. It would fit with their team up in wano- their initial clash is because of sibling like rough housing but scaled up to their power level, but then they make up and ally to each other because they do genuinely care about each other... thats a sweet interpretation but it makes the fact that they ended up as brutal dictators that needed to be overthrown pretty sad.
Its possible big mom saved Kuma from Saturn because big mom's dose have her all race dream thing and she may overheared that Kuma is a special race so she cant have him dead, as she fights Saturn Kaido join up and ate the fruit some how.
@@reves3333 Frankly I was surpised when Big Mom hit Ivanov, as we see with the Tama Linlin has a soft spot for young enough kids. Maybe she hadn't developed that motherly side yet, or maybe she didn't recognize Ivanov as a kid, or at least one young enough to trigger her that way. The whole time she was O-lin made me sad because she could have been a tremendous force for good if she was raised right, instead she maintained the worst of her childish behaviors, a childish selfishness and ignorance of other's conditions, twisted by age and experience.
@@timothycarney9652 she only had like 30kids at that time and they are all like babies so she probably didnt have the motherly instincts yet ,she didnt flat out kill ivankov tho so that is a good start and its abit hard to see ivankov as a kid like the size and the size of the head.
it would be pretty cool if we get some kind of "redemption" or at least consistency type of thing with her ideals? cause the thing Kuma just said dose have some alignment with her own ideals even if her version is like really warped like 80% of big mom is basicly "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" there is also this thing that big mom might understand kuma because she is born diffrent too but trying to not see herself as born special?
there is also a religious theme that shares with these 2 characters the whole nun orphanage miracle thing with big mom and kuma with whole bibble and church prayer thing, plus Saturn is like the literal devil here it would be fiting if big mom just cant stand Saturn and fights him because of her ideals
I have never felt more sickened by the celestial dragons
I wish we saw any punishment they got from the pirates
Gloriosa being a member of the Rocks Pirates seems to make her a strong contender for being Yamato's mother.
She fell in love with kaido, humm interesting, godvalley is 38 years ago, Yamato is 28 y/o
Kuma is gonna end Saturn soon. What if the next murder festival is gonna be at Elbaf, since the Island has all the knowledge of Ohara. It would make sense for Oda to finally reveal what happened in God Valley during Elbaf.
Sounds like a good way to get most of the celestial dragons killed. If they could conquer Elbaf they would've done it already.
@@windwaker01 That would be optimal lol
Kuma aint strong enough to kill saturn but dragon will
@@SouthAdorianElbaf has the strongest military in the world i highly doubt they WG overthrow them
@@joeyskywalker1322 do they?
I feel that this chapter showed 2 General Zombies or maybe even 3! Of course there is Captain John then there was the guy shown in a helmet from the Rocks Pirates which looked really similar to General Zombie with the same helmet and beard and if the last guy is supposed to be silver axe then there is a General Zombie with a literal silver axe!
yoooo that chapter was fire, Kuma is probably the ultimate MVP seeing through everything from the moment his wife was killed, joining the revolutionaries, he knew exactly which places would make the strawhats stronger etc. it was all planned from the beginning
There is actually one more Empress in-between Shakky and Hancock, who we don't know anything about.
Also, in the chapter, Ginny states she is 4 years older then Kuma, who is 9, so using simple math, we can conclude she is 13.
She's 4, not 4 years older
She said that to kids not kuma
@@ethan8649you are talking about op scan translation and he is talking about tcb scan translation
@@ethan8649 nope, definitely says 4 years older.
@@DaityaGod ... it was just her and Kuma; just as they finished waving goodbye to Ivankov 🤦♂