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You have a point on the "things should have been found underwater" part. I actually had to look in the manga real quick for some clues. First, I thought of Cricket, and he dove down to find The City of Gold, but I couldn't find the exact depths he went. Then I thought of the Shark Sub Franky built, and it goes down to 5,000 meters, and 200 seems like they'd hit something, let alone the bottom of the sea floor. Maybe a translation error? What's the base measurement in Japan?
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@YaelBewford The name Oda and the word "failed" should never be used together. lmao maybe form a coherent english sentence before you talk out of your ass next time.
@@YaelBewfordI've seen multiple comments from you on here just going on about disliking either Oda or One Piece itself. Bro why tf are you even here??
I can see the underwater ruins not being frequently discovered as when you think of it, the sea levels rising that much meant the ancient world took 200 shots (either all on one side or going back and forth), each effectively erasing an island sized chunk out of it, and everything that didn't get hit directly took 200 earthquakes and tidal waves, leaving probably not much left standing, and that's not factoring in all the damage caused by conventional war. Additionally, the ruins left most intact could've become nesting grounds for the sea kings, which would also keep most divers and fishmen away.
dont forget that there are way too many seabeast living in the seafloor (look at jinbe cover story, just one ruin have like 6-7 seabeast living in there), it makes it even harder to do research in the sea. its not like people even know there is something in the sea in the first place
@@shardownmvngaming and fishmen, who could get closer, just have zero interest in them and wouldn't know what to look for anyway. Not like there were any fishmen ohara scholars afterall
i can defenitly see that there will eventualy bee a kind of mutiny in the marines or large amount seperating from the world government. i can even see sakasuki do that because he do not seem to like the world nobels a lot. also all the marines is people drafted from the common people around the world they will have friends and family that is at risk etc and that can be a realy good motivation.
That’s why Oda’s incorporated the idea of Sword since post-time skip (it accounts for end game marine characters that don’t fit the “WG marine” archetype A.K.A. Fujitora, Garp, Sengoku, Colby, Smoker, etc
I could see Akainu staying thinking what they’re doing is justified, but given his current relationship with the Gorosei I wouldn’t be surprised if he turned on them. I mean let’s face it, unless the God Knights are Yonko Level, Akainu would have a pretty easy time tearing Maryjo’s apart.
To be fair... ocean currents, water pressure, water damage, and other erosive elements over the centuries probably did a good job of that moreso. ... at least assuming Zunisha only walked a singular specific path since the Void Century.
If we assume that the ancient weapons were used in an extent that was enough to rise the water level by 200 metres we can also assume that all those ancient cities were destroyed by said weapons, just wiped from existence , same way lulusia got wiped out
He s cooking what exactly... Wasting already 3 chapters with 2 weeks breaks for a message that doesn't even need more than 2 chapters to be fully delivered 🤔😐Some fans should rise their expectations and stop extolling everything. This is mental illness.
@@Gunsmoke2220 Zunesha's legs are something like 15 km tall the issue isn't the water being "too deep". 200 m would be way too shallow for the big elephant.
15:36 You'd be surprised how little people used to care about history and archeology. In fact many medieval European castles were left as ruins and only in the last say 100 years have we reconstructed them and figured out, when and for what purpose they actually were built. And they were not in some depopulated areas or 200m under water or anything. It's just that nobody cared about them for several 100 years.
Definitely wasn't expecting a Foxy appearance, nor former Baroque Works agent Miss Golden Week who seems to be wearing a hat in the shape of half an apple, *suspiciously* similar to what Vegapunk has on top of his head 🤔...
Just by how surprisingly menacing it’s in context while very silly out of context “old man walking past fainting snails” might be my favourite panel this chapter.
Dr. Kureha who lived through the last century is living on a mountainous icey continent ontop of the largest plateau in a damn castle. Lady needs to give up the goods. She can't be showing up for 1 panel every 4 years playing dumb.
Personally, I think she’s lying about being a centennial. I dead think she’s waaaaayyyy, way older, like you can tell she’s playing coy about what she knows.
"...Unless Joyboy is a giant, in which case 100 years isn't that long as they just got out of their teenage years." That would explain the giant straw hat they're keeping in Mariejois as some sort of trophy and why the Elbaf giants know so much about the sun god.
I had a feeling that the One Piece world was in a Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker situation, with a "forgotten kingdom that wasn't actually forgotten" (King of Hyrule & Zelda/Tetra coinciding to Imu & the Celestial Dragons) and all the islands just being the high parts of the sunken land below
Its also the same in Jim Knopf :D I think another video mentioned myths of sunken civiliizations, perhaps there are some like atlantis where everything is based on?
At this point its basically confirmed that something very important used to be where ennies lobby is built now and what could be more important than ancient kingdom
This explains why Alabasta seems like it's the biggest island we visited. They were part of the 20 nation side, all the others went up, but they knew this continent would be fine because it was so massive and tall. Once the weapon was used, their continent shrunk still but it left them with far more land than most islands.
I'm starting to feel it was actually a three way conflict (or more) like the 20 kingdom v.s ancient kingdom and Joyboy and his crew on a seperate quest to stop the war or smth, he was born in ancient kingdom but he probably didn't agree with their ideologies, but then 20 kingdoms were also not their jam so they tried their own thing, this he was the first one to set out to sea and this branded as a pirate (the first one) as he decided not to side on either side
@@Oxijinn_ I mean last we saw of him he was already on the brink of death in Onigashima. It wouldn't make sense to see him in some one off panel with no special attention given to him. It would also make no sense for him to reach mock town all fine and dandy all the way from Wano
I have a theory that the original mother flame came from the queen of the lunarians. And doctor vegapunk analyzed and experimented on king to achieve recreating the mother flame.
Mm, also interesting how Lunarians (and the Seraphim) have white hair and control fire with special properties. As if they're an artificial race based on Nika's appearance and fire conjuration ability. Or Nika's appearance might have been dreamed up based on Lunarians.
Isn't there a big plot hole here? It is called the 100 year void/Void Century, implying there is history before that point that the people in One Piece knows, but how do they know? Almost the entire world sank, wouldn't that have erased all of history, and not just 100 years?
Well only a fraction of kimgdoms have history from beyond the void century not every village or kingdom was around and even if some were how many fell or rise? Also gotta think how many tells of their history was passed down but eventually turned to myth and even some myths become forgotten
The fluidity of chapter while breezing through different parts of One Piece world is great. Yes reading this one after multiple breaks definitely a bit of connecting dots may be how Vegapunk is trying to do ha ha.
Upon reading this chapter, I couldn't help but think the red line might've been artificially heightened in preparation for second round of massive sea level rise... Though I really can't defend that idea, it just popped into my head
Sakazuki's fruit cooperating with Kuzan's could create massive amounts of homogenous rock... And it makes sense for the World Governament to keep those fruits close to them.
Or maybe it's pieces of the land mass of all the islands/continents around the world collected there. Which shunk the islands while increasing the height/volume of the redline.
That probably is the cause of the flood... maybe Uranus didn't destroy islands like Lulucia, but transported them to somewhere along the red line, making the sea level rise (it would have to transport under the sea so the volume of the surface could add to rise the sea level, but I don't think Oda is super preoccupied with physics..)
@@Baddaby In my defense, a giant line of land going around the entire globe is a very unnatural land formation. This idea would explain the height and unnatural shape of it. Though on the hand, I guess nothing about One Piece's geography is all that natural xD
I don't know why people don't notice this plot hole but the "100 year void century" would imply that people know about the history of before the void century which would imply that people also know about the existence of ancient kingdom because it has to exist for a noticable amount of time before the the 20 kingdoms can start a century long conflict with it.
Rising tides usually correlates with the moons position towards the planet, meaning the ancient weapon probably is located in the moon or Imu can control planetary or lunar movement MEANING RETURN OF THE COMEBACK FOR OUR BOY ENEL!!!
Just a thought on why no one has discovered the underwater ruins of previous civilizations (aside from Jinbe): Most real-world civilizations are built near the coast (with major rivers being a distant second). Elevations of 200 meters above sea level are typically at least a few miles inland. Second, the technological gap between the Ancient Kingdom and the 20 Kingdoms sounds quite vast. I would imagine this also applies to architecture. Since the Ancient Kingdom has not been revealed, I would imagine the submerged architecture was not hundreds of meters tall. In short, I imagine most underwater ruins to be located by ancient coasts whereas most modern settlements are located several miles further inland. Additionally, most ruins would not be as large and grand as those depicted in chapter 1115. In other words, to find these ruins, people would have to search 200 meters below the surface miles away from shore and hope to find generally small settlements and structures. Aside from the fishmen, Law’s submarine, coated ships, and maybe the salvage brothers off Jaya, the infrastructure to do this seems lacking. Fishmen don’t generally share information with most humans and the other options seem less consistent.
The story of joyboy seems pretty similar to the dasharajnya war. It was a war where 10 different Kings United to defeat one King named Sudas. Just the difference is that Joyboy lost but Sudas had won the war.
2 things: Joy Boy definitely doesn't look like a giant in that silhouette shot, although it could be a perspective thing. And the weapons creation was bound to be a disaster. As a quote I've stumbled upon on the internet says: "a weapon built to end war is always a weapon built to continue war". But overall, despite being huge lore dumps, these last few chapters have managed to be really exciting. I'm always at the edge of my seat while reading them, even though there isn't much focus on the action. Amazing work by Oda as almost always
I think water 7 is a part of the ancient kingdom. I think it was either Tom or iceberg that mentioned the ancient weapon pluton was maid by the shipwrights at water 7. Water 7 arc you see the water pull back during the storm to reveal the old city.
I think we're forgetting the 200 meter rise was during the void century. Vegapunk hasn't revealed how much the sea levels have risen in the past 800 years. Jaya clearly showed that sea levels didn't remain stagnant over just the past 400 years. Noland also suggested the idea of islands sinking wasn't unthinkable either.
The panel with Carrot dead center...gave me some serious flashbacks to when Pedro last talked to her...because she is witnessing his belief in the Strawhats unfold from a distance and knows for certain, Pedro didn't die in vain.
you didn't mention it is now canon that the 5 elders can hear the voices of all things, a feet only known by the rogger pirates. Seems like they'r haki is on another level
Liam forgot one part of why people didn't discover the old world even though the water just rose for 200 meters, the waters of the One Piece world is teeeming with dangers. Even for fishmen and merfolks would need a considerable effort to discover and make a conclusion of a lost world beneath the waters while traveling and living in these waters full of sea beasts and sea kings
My favorite part of this chapter that you missed here was checking back in on Whisky Peak, where we see some ex baroque works members, presumably Miss Golden Week, Miss Merry Christmas, and Miss Valentine
One of my first questions was why wouldn't the WG want to bring the fishman up to the surface world. One day a fishman is going to stumble on some ruins. I bet you it's happened before then whispers on fishman island about a huge underwater city reach the gorsei and then that fishman dissappear a day or 2 later
What makes us so certain that the Ancient Weapons were originally planned to be weapons? Think about it, if the world was less oceanic when Posieden was created, it would hardly count as a weapon. Inversely, Pluton is a massive ship, an object regularly seen in Great Flood myths.
Pluton wasn't just a ship but a battleship that can destroy an entire island with a single blast. Unless there is some twist towards what pluton actually is it was definetly a weapon
The Revelations in the latest Chapter somehow seems to really point towards the Theory/Idea that Laugh Tale sunk and is, in Fact, hidden either somewhere on the Ocean Floor (underneath Enies Lobby?) or hidden deep under if not within the Reverse Mountain (where the X marks the Spot)..Only accessible via the Opposite of the "Knock-Up-Stream" to reach Sky Islands, being a "Knock-Down-Stream", which may only occor at a special given Time or via special Requirements / Setup, which is inclined through the Road Poneglyphs.
@@Elidan1012im pretty sure the tree of knowledge on ohara was said to be 5000 years old. If thats the case then the tree would be way more than 200 meters at this point
@@Kona1227 that literally does not matter. If I plant a tree on a 300 meter tall hill, that tree is not suddenly 300+ meters tall. You don't meassure from sea level.
I was re-watching Marine Ford arc recently and I was struck by something Dolflamingo said "Justice is going to be served regardless who wins, because the victor gets to define what Justice means"
I really cant hold myself from smirking when you talk about Uranus with a straight face like that..."What Nimu used to destroy Lulusia...was Uranus" There is no world where I could say that without smiling.
The 200m rise might explain why the Shandrians have wings, like lunarians and other skyfolk, as Shandora used to be at least 200meters higher than the rest of the islands as it was not sank when it was displaced by knock up stream. Who knows, maybe they are all originated from the same tribe together with the skypians, that would be somewhat of a twist, finding out that they were fighting against each other as enemies for the others' land while they are 1 tribe with the same homeland.
i think you forgot that people in one piece can live upto 150 years, 150 in one piece is like the 100 in our world, so joyboy can still be a human and live for like 130 years
Very minor, but someone in Drum Island said that the 200 meter rise was about as tall as "that mountain over there". Quite fascinating if that is in fact the mountain that Luffy climbed in winter weather while carrying two people.
how is it a "void centruy" at this point. void centruy implies that history is know before and after that century but not in the middle of it. Wouldn't it be known then that there used to be continents. seems to me like its just a cutoff of history
HANUMAN JI actually ate the sun and then attacked by god of lightning Indra by his weapon "Vajra" after being hurt by vajra he gained so many unimaginable powers from all other gods
From the silhouettes, I can't tell if joyboy is facing or leading the 20 kings. Probably unlikely that he was one of them and there's probably a panel to debunk it, but that would be such a twist 😂
A thing i noticed is that within those 100 years the sea level rose by 200m, but how much has it risen on the following 800 years hasn't been stated. So the ruins are at least 201 meters but it could be more.
sanji is the man who can be good at a single panel and his fanbase will praise him like nobody could ever do what he could🤦 then oda will destroy their hopes right after.😭😭 it's really hard to be a sanji fan that even franky is his competition.
Considering the reactions of the rank and file Marine soldiers, I think we’ve just seen the beginning of the long-expected schism/rebellion in the Marines.
While at close range the island cut was like Mihawk's during Marineford with the way they dodged, I feel like the actual island cut when zoomed out looked more like Law's on Punk Hazard which also then has parallels being an earlier Vegapunk island, tech and all being cut with no resistance.
One thing to note about Vegapunk's morality positioning is that MOST pirates are NOT like the Strawhats. They are pillagers, stripping wherever they can of resources and even straight up murdering civilians. They are not intrinsically a force of good.
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You have a point on the "things should have been found underwater" part. I actually had to look in the manga real quick for some clues. First, I thought of Cricket, and he dove down to find The City of Gold, but I couldn't find the exact depths he went.
Then I thought of the Shark Sub Franky built, and it goes down to 5,000 meters, and 200 seems like they'd hit something, let alone the bottom of the sea floor.
Maybe a translation error? What's the base measurement in Japan?
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Vegapunk: "The world will be flooded."
Arlong in Impel Down: "I knew it! Fishmen are truly superior!"
He's not in impel down iirc but it was funny 😂
Fishmen stocks rn📈📈
maybe bcz fishmen noticed the rising sea level first, as they live in it.
@@elijahwise4588and sky people (forgot the name)
Never mention any dirty fishman ever again
Remember when we thought egghead was gonna be a nice short arc before elbaf and now we getting massive lore drops in it
i still think back to that and have to juckle everytime :D :D
Remember when you also thought that Wano d be the best arc and Oda F failed❤❤❤
@YaelBewford The name Oda and the word "failed" should never be used together. lmao maybe form a coherent english sentence before you talk out of your ass next time.
@@YaelBewford bait used to be believable. Also, makes no sense. What is the best arc is an opinion...
@@YaelBewfordI've seen multiple comments from you on here just going on about disliking either Oda or One Piece itself. Bro why tf are you even here??
I can see the underwater ruins not being frequently discovered as when you think of it, the sea levels rising that much meant the ancient world took 200 shots (either all on one side or going back and forth), each effectively erasing an island sized chunk out of it, and everything that didn't get hit directly took 200 earthquakes and tidal waves, leaving probably not much left standing, and that's not factoring in all the damage caused by conventional war.
Additionally, the ruins left most intact could've become nesting grounds for the sea kings, which would also keep most divers and fishmen away.
Maybe those ruins could be the ancient kingdom but who knows. At first I thought it was destroyed but now I know it was flooded.
And they don't have convenient means to look/travel deep in the ocean/underwater.
And this is not even taking into account that the world government heavily restricts travel
dont forget that there are way too many seabeast living in the seafloor (look at jinbe cover story, just one ruin have like 6-7 seabeast living in there), it makes it even harder to do research in the sea. its not like people even know there is something in the sea in the first place
@@shardownmvngaming and fishmen, who could get closer, just have zero interest in them and wouldn't know what to look for anyway. Not like there were any fishmen
ohara scholars afterall
I have a feeling the Void Century is about to be the greatest flash back of all time
You'll laugh pretty hard though 😁
That or rocks flashback 🤔
@@sitowatdefinitely joy boy's and it's not even close
200 chapter flashback
@@13vatra 200 chapter worth of laugh 😆
Oda finishes chapter 1115
"Ha... finally halfway through."
Seen it somewhere yesterday
I pray for that
Bro where the hell are yall Reading, i cant find the new chapter
Yo, tht sheep mink panel looks nightmarish
@@ct5244tbc
The reactions from the marines are kinda giving the idea of the eventual separation of marines from the world government
i can defenitly see that there will eventualy bee a kind of mutiny in the marines or large amount seperating from the world government. i can even see sakasuki do that because he do not seem to like the world nobels a lot. also all the marines is people drafted from the common people around the world they will have friends and family that is at risk etc and that can be a realy good motivation.
That’s why Oda’s incorporated the idea of Sword since post-time skip (it accounts for end game marine characters that don’t fit the “WG marine” archetype A.K.A. Fujitora, Garp, Sengoku, Colby, Smoker, etc
They’ll essentially be pirates
@@baldrian22I doubt sakazuki will separate from wg..he knew that along the way...maybe those lower positions would be
I could see Akainu staying thinking what they’re doing is justified, but given his current relationship with the Gorosei I wouldn’t be surprised if he turned on them. I mean let’s face it, unless the God Knights are Yonko Level, Akainu would have a pretty easy time tearing Maryjo’s apart.
Each chapter that releases only increases the hype for the next. Oda is absolutely cooking with all these chapters lately.
It's the frigging prie fix tasting menu at thus point
facts
Well bro he has had a good what 20 some years to think about it right? I would expect nothing less
I can't stop thinking about sanjuan wolf and zunesha keep casually stomp upon ancient ruins on the sea floor
To be fair... ocean currents, water pressure, water damage, and other erosive elements over the centuries probably did a good job of that moreso.
... at least assuming Zunisha only walked a singular specific path since the Void Century.
If we assume that the ancient weapons were used in an extent that was enough to rise the water level by 200 metres we can also assume that all those ancient cities were destroyed by said weapons, just wiped from existence , same way lulusia got wiped out
@@milkymace9502the last page shows the underwater ruins though
At this point, Oda is going to surpass Gordon Ramsey because of how much he's cooking 🔥
Wait he didnt surpass him yet???
I thought he surpassed the laws of cooking after 1 panel of chapter 1.
Oda's been cooking since Monsters
He s cooking what exactly... Wasting already 3 chapters with 2 weeks breaks for a message that doesn't even need more than 2 chapters to be fully delivered 🤔😐Some fans should rise their expectations and stop extolling everything. This is mental illness.
@@YaelBewforddemon slayer fan be like:
This chapter was amazing, and the ancient kingdom 200m below sea level makes me wonder how much Law has seen since he had a submarine as his ship!
and rieghly doesn't have a devil fruit and has been known to swim for long periods of time
And what fishmen have seen
Bro where the hell are yall Reading, i cant find the new chapter
@@ct5244 I just buy mine at 7/11 must be sad not living in asia
@@ct5244 tcbscans
Vegapunk: *casually airs out Void Century secrets worldwide*
Five Elders: "And we took that personally."
" he is gonna spill all the beans, ALL OF THEM!"
more like
Saturn : And
Warcury : We
Ju Peter : Took
V. Nasjuro : That
Marcus Mars : Personally
The five elders are behaving like monkes right now
@@octobsession3061Hello.. I an fron future. There is a 6th elder called The sun and he has the one piece in his liver
"Luffy just wants a fun adventure"
---Luffy: "I want to create a world were all my friends can eat as much they want"
I wonder if zunisha is walking the perimeter of the sunken continent. That's why he can stand in the ocean
That's a pretty nice theory
good catch. bcz ocean is much deeper than his legs for sure
That explains sooo much, ofc zunesha has long legs, but generally the ocean is much deeper.
Then that would mean zunesha legs are at least 200M long😊
@@Gunsmoke2220 Zunesha's legs are something like 15 km tall the issue isn't the water being "too deep". 200 m would be way too shallow for the big elephant.
15:36 You'd be surprised how little people used to care about history and archeology. In fact many medieval European castles were left as ruins and only in the last say 100 years have we reconstructed them and figured out, when and for what purpose they actually were built. And they were not in some depopulated areas or 200m under water or anything. It's just that nobody cared about them for several 100 years.
And that's factoring how people never leave their island for the most part of them
@@gabrielgoes0AND how the world government prohibits almost all archeological research (on this) in the first place
@@placeadrien5566 fr
Exactly
Also, people literally ground up Egyptian mummies to make a paint pigment, ppl never cared
That seems weird, as Europeans were practicing archeology in Egypt and translating hieroglyphs since times of Napoleon in early 19th century.
Definitely wasn't expecting a Foxy appearance, nor former Baroque Works agent Miss Golden Week who seems to be wearing a hat in the shape of half an apple, *suspiciously* similar to what Vegapunk has on top of his head 🤔...
We just got Gamecube Paper Mario back, and now One Piece is turning into Wind Waker. I just love the Gamecube.
I'm just imagining the thousand year door characters as the straw hats
@@smallfedoraproductions743f you, now I need to see that
16:37 "The only reason why uranus was not used most frequently" you got no idea how frequently i use it.
She use Uranus till I rise
💀
The WG uses Uranus to dump explosive charges at the world and make it a clogged toilet with all that water rising.
😳
it's me that's gonna use uranus
I have a theory that Mr. Panda is a Panda who has eaten the Panda-Panda no mi model Panda and has become a Panda with Panda-like powers.
sleep, eat bambu, be cute, and not breed?
Damn you. Stop giving it away!
Just by how surprisingly menacing it’s in context while very silly out of context “old man walking past fainting snails” might be my favourite panel this chapter.
Dr. Kureha who lived through the last century is living on a mountainous icey continent ontop of the largest plateau in a damn castle.
Lady needs to give up the goods. She can't be showing up for 1 panel every 4 years playing dumb.
Personally, I think she’s lying about being a centennial. I dead think she’s waaaaayyyy, way older, like you can tell she’s playing coy about what she knows.
@@SoloStudioss Yeah, she knows about the Will of D so she's definitely playing coy
maybe she was the first one to get the immortal surgery in the ancient kingdom ? imagine that
@@cotomyzerinteresting...
@@cotomyzer imagine getting the immortal surgery done when you are already like 140 lol.
"...Unless Joyboy is a giant, in which case 100 years isn't that long as they just got out of their teenage years."
That would explain the giant straw hat they're keeping in Mariejois as some sort of trophy and why the Elbaf giants know so much about the sun god.
I had a feeling that the One Piece world was in a Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker situation, with a "forgotten kingdom that wasn't actually forgotten" (King of Hyrule & Zelda/Tetra coinciding to Imu & the Celestial Dragons) and all the islands just being the high parts of the sunken land below
If this was planned from the start, it predates Wind Waker by 5 years.
Its also the same in Jim Knopf :D I think another video mentioned myths of sunken civiliizations, perhaps there are some like atlantis where everything is based on?
So I need a One Piece version of Ganondorf's speech in the final battle
At this point its basically confirmed that something very important used to be where ennies lobby is built now and what could be more important than ancient kingdom
This explains why Alabasta seems like it's the biggest island we visited. They were part of the 20 nation side, all the others went up, but they knew this continent would be fine because it was so massive and tall. Once the weapon was used, their continent shrunk still but it left them with far more land than most islands.
I'm starting to feel it was actually a three way conflict (or more) like the 20 kingdom v.s ancient kingdom and Joyboy and his crew on a seperate quest to stop the war or smth, he was born in ancient kingdom but he probably didn't agree with their ideologies, but then 20 kingdoms were also not their jam so they tried their own thing, this he was the first one to set out to sea and this branded as a pirate (the first one) as he decided not to side on either side
Fresh theory, haven't heard it yet but I like it!
Very Interesting theory
Heheh you said “three-way.”
Joyboy's story feels like that of future Gohan's story, gohan struggled against the Androids by himself for a long time, and then died tragically.
"Down an arm and killed by an android. Why does this feel…oddly familiar?" -Son Gohan
He got mixed by the government.
@@JamesDavy2009underrated reference
Am I insane for thinking that the only man who isn't laughing in the panel where everyone is mocking Vegapunk looks suspiciously like Basil Hawkins?
It obviously can't be Hawkins, it's just some guy that looks like him
@@TamsCakeI mean it was never confirmed that he was dead, no?
@@Oxijinn_ there are so many resurrection that i dont believe anyone can die in this story
@@Oxijinn_ I mean last we saw of him he was already on the brink of death in Onigashima. It wouldn't make sense to see him in some one off panel with no special attention given to him. It would also make no sense for him to reach mock town all fine and dandy all the way from Wano
@@Oxijinn_ where did u see hawkins ?? i dont see him anywhere in this chapter
joy boy may have been the original owner of the empty throne as it is very large similar to the giant straw hat at marejois
Vivi just casually shuts Morgans up, got to love it.
Oda really put in panels to bully Kid even more.
Which is not even necessary to the story 😂
I have a theory that the original mother flame came from the queen of the lunarians. And doctor vegapunk analyzed and experimented on king to achieve recreating the mother flame.
Mm, also interesting how Lunarians (and the Seraphim) have white hair and control fire with special properties.
As if they're an artificial race based on Nika's appearance and fire conjuration ability.
Or Nika's appearance might have been dreamed up based on Lunarians.
@@Rubed0_oYamato has white hair and could probably use foxfire technique so does that mean she is a lunarian
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Her hair isn't entirely white, unlike the Seraphim though. So she's unlikely to have a connection to the Lunarians.
Dawn Dusk’s old continent theory was right.. 🤯
Isn't there a big plot hole here? It is called the 100 year void/Void Century, implying there is history before that point that the people in One Piece knows, but how do they know? Almost the entire world sank, wouldn't that have erased all of history, and not just 100 years?
Yeah there’s a huge difference between history starting 800 years ago and a 100 year gap in history
Well only a fraction of kimgdoms have history from beyond the void century not every village or kingdom was around and even if some were how many fell or rise? Also gotta think how many tells of their history was passed down but eventually turned to myth and even some myths become forgotten
The fluidity of chapter while breezing through different parts of One Piece world is great. Yes reading this one after multiple breaks definitely a bit of connecting dots may be how Vegapunk is trying to do ha ha.
Upon reading this chapter, I couldn't help but think the red line might've been artificially heightened in preparation for second round of massive sea level rise... Though I really can't defend that idea, it just popped into my head
Sakazuki's fruit cooperating with Kuzan's could create massive amounts of homogenous rock... And it makes sense for the World Governament to keep those fruits close to them.
Or maybe it's pieces of the land mass of all the islands/continents around the world collected there. Which shunk the islands while increasing the height/volume of the redline.
That probably is the cause of the flood... maybe Uranus didn't destroy islands like Lulucia, but transported them to somewhere along the red line, making the sea level rise (it would have to transport under the sea so the volume of the surface could add to rise the sea level, but I don't think Oda is super preoccupied with physics..)
Ah yes, much more plausible than them just choosing to live someplace high
This fandom is insane lmao
@@Baddaby In my defense, a giant line of land going around the entire globe is a very unnatural land formation. This idea would explain the height and unnatural shape of it. Though on the hand, I guess nothing about One Piece's geography is all that natural xD
I don't know why people don't notice this plot hole but the "100 year void century" would imply that people know about the history of before the void century which would imply that people also know about the existence of ancient kingdom because it has to exist for a noticable amount of time before the the 20 kingdoms can start a century long conflict with it.
Rising tides usually correlates with the moons position towards the planet, meaning the ancient weapon probably is located in the moon or Imu can control planetary or lunar movement MEANING RETURN OF THE COMEBACK FOR OUR BOY ENEL!!!
Guess who’s back…
Back again…
God is back
Tell a friend
God is back, God is back, God is back, God is back, God is back, God is back, Yahahahaha
This explains the destruction of fishman island prophecy. The Straw Hats will somehow find a way to lower the sea levels.
Yea….luffy will prolly drink it all
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couldnt the 3 diving brothers from jaya find the acient city
Shhhhh.
Nope
nope, arlong will find it first
@@darkdestination4216 You mean this city is in Impel Down? :P
When Vegapunk says he can't judge who is good or bad, it's similar to Rayleigh's point about they might reach to a different conclusion
Just a thought on why no one has discovered the underwater ruins of previous civilizations (aside from Jinbe):
Most real-world civilizations are built near the coast (with major rivers being a distant second).
Elevations of 200 meters above sea level are typically at least a few miles inland.
Second, the technological gap between the Ancient Kingdom and the 20 Kingdoms sounds quite vast. I would imagine this also applies to architecture. Since the Ancient Kingdom has not been revealed, I would imagine the submerged architecture was not hundreds of meters tall.
In short, I imagine most underwater ruins to be located by ancient coasts whereas most modern settlements are located several miles further inland. Additionally, most ruins would not be as large and grand as those depicted in chapter 1115. In other words, to find these ruins, people would have to search 200 meters below the surface miles away from shore and hope to find generally small settlements and structures.
Aside from the fishmen, Law’s submarine, coated ships, and maybe the salvage brothers off Jaya, the infrastructure to do this seems lacking. Fishmen don’t generally share information with most humans and the other options seem less consistent.
and seakings. I have the impression the seakings are guarding the ruins of the ancient civilization...
also what do you mean Foxy is now "merged with Wario?" he is clearly going full Waluigi
Never go full waluigi
@@RandomGamerCory indeed
10:31 I knew it! Vegapunk cloned Mewtwo, it all makes sense!
or he cloned mew, making mewtwo....
You said that Joy Boy couldn't live for a century long, but the average one piece life-span is 140 years.
One piece arcs just keep getting better. The post-time skip one piece is just next level adventurous.
The more we see of Ethan's power, the more impressive it is that Sanji deflected his blade and kicked him in the jaw.
Strong Work! You definitely got me with that ad placement lead-in with Admiral Akainu 😂😂😂
The story of joyboy seems pretty similar to the dasharajnya war. It was a war where 10 different Kings United to defeat one King named Sudas. Just the difference is that Joyboy lost but Sudas had won the war.
2 things:
Joy Boy definitely doesn't look like a giant in that silhouette shot, although it could be a perspective thing.
And the weapons creation was bound to be a disaster. As a quote I've stumbled upon on the internet says: "a weapon built to end war is always a weapon built to continue war".
But overall, despite being huge lore dumps, these last few chapters have managed to be really exciting. I'm always at the edge of my seat while reading them, even though there isn't much focus on the action. Amazing work by Oda as almost always
I think water 7 is a part of the ancient kingdom. I think it was either Tom or iceberg that mentioned the ancient weapon pluton was maid by the shipwrights at water 7. Water 7 arc you see the water pull back during the storm to reveal the old city.
I think we're forgetting the 200 meter rise was during the void century. Vegapunk hasn't revealed how much the sea levels have risen in the past 800 years. Jaya clearly showed that sea levels didn't remain stagnant over just the past 400 years. Noland also suggested the idea of islands sinking wasn't unthinkable either.
If Blackbeard is listening to this Vega punk's message then caribou's stocks 📈
The panel with Carrot dead center...gave me some serious flashbacks to when Pedro last talked to her...because she is witnessing his belief in the Strawhats unfold from a distance and knows for certain, Pedro didn't die in vain.
you didn't mention it is now canon that the 5 elders can hear the voices of all things, a feet only known by the rogger pirates. Seems like they'r haki is on another level
Luffy and Momonosuke also hear the voices of all things. and Kobe, I think. and that little girl in Skypea...
@@PROPAROXITONO true but they can use it activly when they decide to use it
@@tobiasrheker5738 that makes sense...
Liam forgot one part of why people didn't discover the old world even though the water just rose for 200 meters, the waters of the One Piece world is teeeming with dangers. Even for fishmen and merfolks would need a considerable effort to discover and make a conclusion of a lost world beneath the waters while traveling and living in these waters full of sea beasts and sea kings
Roger's plan of turning the world upside down seems like a necessity in these times😂
My favorite part of this chapter that you missed here was checking back in on Whisky Peak, where we see some ex baroque works members, presumably Miss Golden Week, Miss Merry Christmas, and Miss Valentine
joy boy may have been born at the start of the void century as the humans in one piece have lifespan twice of that in the real world
All I could think of is carabou about to meet Blackbeard with info on two ancient weapons
One of my first questions was why wouldn't the WG want to bring the fishman up to the surface world. One day a fishman is going to stumble on some ruins. I bet you it's happened before then whispers on fishman island about a huge underwater city reach the gorsei and then that fishman dissappear a day or 2 later
G4 is the base that got shattered by clown impersonators before their water boy got kidnapped
Why are those fake straw hats (now fake kid pirates) imprisoned at a Marine base, and not Impel Down?! 🤔
What makes us so certain that the Ancient Weapons were originally planned to be weapons? Think about it, if the world was less oceanic when Posieden was created, it would hardly count as a weapon. Inversely, Pluton is a massive ship, an object regularly seen in Great Flood myths.
Pluton wasn't just a ship but a battleship that can destroy an entire island with a single blast. Unless there is some twist towards what pluton actually is it was definetly a weapon
This explain how impel down was constructed. perhaps it was a big watch tower that was repurposed to a prison
When Nasjuro cuts the labophase, we can actually see the Sunny on the left side, it looks safe
Yes! More One Piece content has been directly injected into my life,ty Sir. ❤ Much love,also from Oz 😂
The Revelations in the latest Chapter somehow seems to really point towards the Theory/Idea that Laugh Tale sunk and is, in Fact, hidden either somewhere on the Ocean Floor (underneath Enies Lobby?) or hidden deep under if not within the Reverse Mountain (where the X marks the Spot)..Only accessible via the Opposite of the "Knock-Up-Stream" to reach Sky Islands, being a "Knock-Down-Stream", which may only occor at a special given Time or via special Requirements / Setup, which is inclined through the Road Poneglyphs.
This means that the tree of knowledge in Ohara was more than 200 meters tall.
Or the Adam tree on Elbaf, not to mention Sunlight Tree Eve.
No, it means it was planted on soil that was over 200 meters above sea level, at that time.
@@Elidan1012im pretty sure the tree of knowledge on ohara was said to be 5000 years old. If thats the case then the tree would be way more than 200 meters at this point
@@Kona1227 that literally does not matter. If I plant a tree on a 300 meter tall hill, that tree is not suddenly 300+ meters tall. You don't meassure from sea level.
was it just me or was the artwork in every panel utterly phenomenal this chapter??
8:17 that's why VEGAPUNK is GENIUS🔥
What if the grand line is above a mountain range which could explain all the different weather patterns for each island
At this point it's pretty clear where the broadcast is coming from.........underwater
The ancient weapon raises the sea level by destroying land. So there probably aren’t too many ruins to find
This chapter feels so cinematic!! 1115
I was re-watching Marine Ford arc recently and I was struck by something Dolflamingo said "Justice is going to be served regardless who wins, because the victor gets to define what Justice means"
Interesting perspective, got me thinking!
I really cant hold myself from smirking when you talk about Uranus with a straight face like that..."What Nimu used to destroy Lulusia...was Uranus" There is no world where I could say that without smiling.
thanks for sharing, you inspired me to try something new
The 200m rise might explain why the Shandrians have wings, like lunarians and other skyfolk, as Shandora used to be at least 200meters higher than the rest of the islands as it was not sank when it was displaced by knock up stream. Who knows, maybe they are all originated from the same tribe together with the skypians, that would be somewhat of a twist, finding out that they were fighting against each other as enemies for the others' land while they are 1 tribe with the same homeland.
Balls
Apparently this is the first comment. Fantastic.
i think you forgot that people in one piece can live upto 150 years, 150 in one piece is like the 100 in our world, so joyboy can still be a human and live for like 130 years
and the bukanears (or whatever is the way to write it)
Very minor, but someone in Drum Island said that the 200 meter rise was about as tall as "that mountain over there". Quite fascinating if that is in fact the mountain that Luffy climbed in winter weather while carrying two people.
The question is why Joy Boy became a pirate in the first place.
how is it a "void centruy" at this point. void centruy implies that history is know before and after that century but not in the middle of it. Wouldn't it be known then that there used to be continents. seems to me like its just a cutoff of history
HANUMAN JI actually ate the sun and then attacked by god of lightning Indra by his weapon "Vajra" after being hurt by vajra he gained so many unimaginable powers from all other gods
From the silhouettes, I can't tell if joyboy is facing or leading the 20 kings. Probably unlikely that he was one of them and there's probably a panel to debunk it, but that would be such a twist 😂
A thing i noticed is that within those 100 years the sea level rose by 200m, but how much has it risen on the following 800 years hasn't been stated. So the ruins are at least 201 meters but it could be more.
Seeing hyori on the cover was a perfect choice. Spitting image of her mother, who jumped centuries into the future to escape the flood! perfect.
Laughed out loud at: “Saturn up in the somewhere hitting computers with a stick”
sanji is the man who can be good at a single panel and his fanbase will praise him like nobody could ever do what he could🤦 then oda will destroy their hopes right after.😭😭 it's really hard to be a sanji fan that even franky is his competition.
Considering the reactions of the rank and file Marine soldiers, I think we’ve just seen the beginning of the long-expected schism/rebellion in the Marines.
While at close range the island cut was like Mihawk's during Marineford with the way they dodged, I feel like the actual island cut when zoomed out looked more like Law's on Punk Hazard which also then has parallels being an earlier Vegapunk island, tech and all being cut with no resistance.
That means that the red line was a huge wall around the world
I like the fact that we see not only the normal places whenever something happens, ut we see all different groups we have interacted with before.
14:30 Don't forget how old Kureha is, and I believe Oda has said Human's can live up to 140 years in this world.
One thing to note about Vegapunk's morality positioning is that MOST pirates are NOT like the Strawhats. They are pillagers, stripping wherever they can of resources and even straight up murdering civilians. They are not intrinsically a force of good.
The way you handle your videos plus the add on of the goofy drawings is much appreciated too many one piece channels on here, you can tell most of them just jumped the bandwagon I don’t even look forward to the reverie anymore cause there so many people in there talking bullshit
I feel like Uranus used to be a weather station that was converted to a weapon during the void century.
Oda is taking advantage of vegapunks global message to show old fan favorite one piece characters wich iam enjoying every single moment of it