Im 80-85 swing speed with a Tour Edge 3 wood, speeder 40 shaft. I hit it pretty high and 175-180 carry on the golf course (I'm 66 yo). It's my favorite club and hit it off the deck every time. However, you are right, my 5 wood is close. about 10 yds diff. That's a great point about more loft helping with carry. I've been thinking about a 7 wood as well. All three clubs seem to gap really well as I'm such a short hitter at the top of my bag especially. Great video.
thank you. I like how you demonstrated the swing speed yours vs slower yours... it just make these easier to understand about spin rate esp for slower swinger 🙂 eventho this vdo posted 3 years ago, still help me on making a decision on 7fw .. i wanted to get one since im no good with 3fw my swing speed is only 70 - 72 ... as much as a woman muscle can do at my age 😀 i got a 5fw in my bag already with 4 hybrid... im really really considering grabing a 7fw to help with my game plan... thoughts? thx!
GREAT VIDEO!!! Finally someone explaining (and actually showing) qthe difference in swing speeds that highly affect how a fairway wood reacts. I'm one of your golfers who doesn't carry a 3wd, and totally agree it's too darn hard to hit well with a low 80mph swing speed. I also carry a 9wd, and 11wd, and still looking for a new 7wd to replace my ancient Ping G30 7wd. Noticed your hitting the T.M. Sims, and here's the rub, I can't find a 7wd T.M. sim anywhere. Inquiries to T.M. brought no response, which I felt strange. Bummer!!
Great video a lot of people do not use enough loft, I have a swing speed around 100 miles an hour, I have 2 x 5 woods one on a three wood shaft loft down the other on a 5 wood shaft with loft up and hit them both really well. With completely different ball flights.👌🏻
At 73 slow swing speed... hitting a 5 wood and 7 wood now (Cobra Speedbacks) they have adjustable hosel which have lofted 5 down slightly. I can hit these reliably and straight. My 3 wood is gathering dust. Last round was , don’t laugh, 86 Driver is 200-205 with little dispersion so sticking with what works so far. Great video!!
I have a Ping G 425 # 5 wood which I set at 16 degrees making it a strong 4 Wood. :) It works extremely well. I do love the Ping line of woods. I hit it off the tee and fairway extremely well at 16 degrees. Here's to 4 Woods. :)
Great video. Any thoughts on the 16.5 Degree HL Sim 2 Max? The head size is the same as the 15 Degree 3 Wood just with the added loft. Would love to know how much easier it would be to hit off the deck?!
you just described me to a tee .so i sold my 3 wood cobra f9 which was set to 16 deg but still couldn't hit it off the fairway and now got a ping g425 5 wood set at 17.5 deg on order after having a fitting and what a difference now looking forward too second shots on a par five and long par 3's
Thanks for putting this video together, it's provided me with food for thought as My swing speed with my driver is 88 mph and I'm guilty of not using my 3 wood off the deck, preferring either my 19 or 22 degree hybrids so I might just put my 5 wood back in my bag and try that instead of my 3 wood for a change
@@AliTaylorGolf Thanks, I've got the shotscope v3 so I'll programe one of my sensors and give the 5 wood a try as that'll provide me with some useful data over several rounds.
This actually had the opposite effect for me. Ive always had a 3 hybrid, because everyone told me they were the most forgiving. I could just never hit it consistently. Finally gave a modern 3w a go (Srixon zx) and its night and day. Off the deck, off the tee, so much more consistent. No tops (like the hybrid) and super forgiving. Less dispersion as well. I am a high swing speed player - and for me i struggle with clubs that require a low swing speed as i just cant get a rhythm that works for them.
I use 4 wood I carry it farther and it’s easier to hit for me than 3 wood. I also find some new fairway heads are just too big and look difficult to hit from the fairway.
Better to try yourself using a launch monitor as shaft will impact the numbers too. Ideally try a wood you can adjust the dynamic loft. I prefer a hybrid over a 5w for shaping. So many options these days.....
I've been in love with my Taylormade Firesole bubbleshaft 7 Wood for many years. Best distance 200yds. Fairway Tee and rough. Now I need midsize grip an not available so going to try Wilson D9 7 wood.
@PeterNaidoo-kx1zd No longer available. There is one company making a compatible grip, and only in standard grip size. The bubble shaft is too large for more tape.
Very interesting video, I replaced my 3 wood with 5 wood last summer because it's easier to hit and carries further for me from the fairway. Looking into 7 wood at the moment to replace my hybrid which I tend to hook. Have no idea about my swing speed but eye opening to see you hit that far with your "slow" speed, I'm probably hitting it to hard.
I switched to 3 and 7 wood this year. Epic max. Regular flex. 3 wood goes 210-230. 7 wood 185-200. Those are approx. the big news if they are so easy off the ground. Also getting fit helped as well. Great video. My swing speed is not as fast as yours. But with the right club I can get the most out of it. Now if I could just make a damn putt. Lol
Got fittet in the new Ping FWW... and dropped my 3 wood. Now carry a 5 wood (16,5), a 4 hybrid (20,5) and a 5 hybrid (24,5). Excellent gapping and only need 13 clubs in the bag 👌🏻
I dropped my 3 wood as well, I have a 5 wood at 18*, a 3 hybrid at 20*, a utility iron at 22* and a 5 hybrid at 24*, that set up really works for my long game. I haven't missed my 3 wood at all yet
Ok, but I have a legitimate question though. If a 5 wood is easier to hit, and only travels 15-20 yards less distance than a 3 wood, which you could easily just make up hitting a 6 or 7 iron while approaching the green, as opposed to the short iron you'd probably use from the extra 20 yard distance with a 3 wood. Wouldn't it just be best to use the 5 wood since it's more accurate, has only a slightly higher loft, and you'd make it to the green in the same amount of strokes anyways? Sorry if that question was confusing, it's just a question I've always had on the 3 wood/5 wood debate.
@@kevinvassago it's a good question with a simple answer - I don't have a 5 wood !! I'm slowly redoing my bag, which was full of 15 year old clubs because I only played 3-4 rounds/year for the past 10 years. I've replaced driver and putter. Irons will be next. Then I'll do woods/hybrids to get gapping right and do wedges last. 5 wood vs 3 hybrid is definitely something I will look at and test, especially with adjustable sleeves now.
@@lindsaynewell6319 that is a good answer😂 I've been redoing my bag too cuz all my clubs are older as well and it's time for some new ones since I've been goin out way more often. But listen to this! I have an 8 & 9 iron from the Tylor Made Pittsburgh permissom era, which I guess is the line of clubs where Taylor Made switched from actual wooden woods to metal woods. Anyways, I was teeing off on a par 3, 130 sumthin yards to the hole and used my 8 iron (from the 70's), I gave it the purest hit I think I've ever felt, it landed on the green about a foot away from the hole, and rolled right in! I got my first (and most likely last ever) hole in one, with a 50 yr old 8 iron!! I'm not sure I even want a new 8 iron, that one works just fine. I think new clubs can be important, but don't discount older ones either!
Ali.. if you plugged your five wood 1/2 to one inch, wouldn’t that generate more club head speed and work even better with the higher lofted five wood?
Hi Ali enjoyed the video and found it very useful. I need to replace my 22° hybrid should I opt for a 7 wood or is it just a question of going for a fitting? Thanks 😊
Nobody asked me, but I think 7 wood to the 4 hybrid is a good gap. The 7 wood is only 1° less loft but it’s considerably longer with a much deeper face. Keep the 4 hybrid
How very apt after looking at changing woods ! 3 wood no more for me, I’ve found utopia, the 5 wood all day long, just the right loft in winter, summer I’ll carry longer than my 3 wood with more control & fairways hit ! One happy golfer 😀
Excellent topic. I flip flop between a 5 wood and a 3 hybrid. I feel like my accuracy is better with the hybrid. Enjoyed this a lot. PS-kind of surprised at the high smash factor with a 3 or 5 wood. I think it's your precise ball striking?
Would a hybrid not be a saver club when playing from a less ideal lie (which is the more likely case for me), like first cut or even rough? Isn't that why it is called a fairway (wood/metal whatever) vs a rescue? I play up to a 5I (thinking of replacing it with a 5H or 7W). Top end of my bag is Driver (10°), 3W (16°) and 4H (21°). So does it make sense to replace my 5I with a 7W going from a fairway to a hybrid and then back to a fairway down my bag? I know the answer is to go for a fitting, but fitting is done from a matt, real life is an %$@& lie.
I carry a 3-wood, 5 wood, 7 wood and a 9 wood my 5 wood replaces my 4-iron 7 wood replace is my 5-iron 9 wood replaces my 6-iron... I swing about 94 miles an hour and hit my 3 wood (16 degree)about 230 off the turf with a very high ball flight
Im 80-85 swing speed with a Tour Edge 3 wood, speeder 40 shaft. I hit it pretty high and 175-180 carry on the golf course (I'm 66 yo). It's my favorite club and hit it off the deck every time. However, you are right, my 5 wood is close. about 10 yds diff. That's a great point about more loft helping with carry. I've been thinking about a 7 wood as well. All three clubs seem to gap really well as I'm such a short hitter at the top of my bag especially. Great video.
thank you. I like how you demonstrated the swing speed yours vs slower yours... it just make these easier to understand about spin rate esp for slower swinger 🙂 eventho this vdo posted 3 years ago, still help me on making a decision on 7fw .. i wanted to get one since im no good with 3fw my swing speed is only 70 - 72 ... as much as a woman muscle can do at my age 😀 i got a 5fw in my bag already with 4 hybrid... im really really considering grabing a 7fw to help with my game plan... thoughts? thx!
GREAT VIDEO!!!
Finally someone explaining (and actually showing) qthe difference in swing speeds that highly affect how a fairway wood reacts. I'm one of your golfers who doesn't carry a 3wd, and totally agree it's too darn hard to hit well with a low 80mph swing speed. I also carry a 9wd, and 11wd, and still looking for a new 7wd to replace my ancient Ping G30 7wd. Noticed your hitting the T.M. Sims, and here's the rub, I can't find a 7wd T.M. sim anywhere. Inquiries to T.M. brought no response, which I felt strange. Bummer!!
UK out of stock for a few weeks I believe
Great video, I swing 3 wood about 102mph and still find the 5 wood to be the go to club.
Use what's best
Great video a lot of people do not use enough loft, I have a swing speed around 100 miles an hour, I have 2 x 5 woods one on a three wood shaft loft down the other on a 5 wood shaft with loft up and hit them both really well. With completely different ball flights.👌🏻
At 73 slow swing speed... hitting a 5 wood and 7 wood now (Cobra Speedbacks) they have adjustable hosel which have lofted 5 down slightly. I can hit these reliably and straight. My 3 wood is gathering dust. Last round was , don’t laugh, 86 Driver is 200-205 with little dispersion so sticking with what works so far. Great video!!
Thanks Frank
Wouldn't laugh at your 86. I'm still trying to get down there!
I have a Ping G 425 # 5 wood which I set at 16 degrees making it a strong 4 Wood. :) It works extremely well. I do love the Ping line of woods. I hit it off the tee and fairway extremely well at 16 degrees. Here's to 4 Woods. :)
Excellent video, many thanks!
Launch angle and carry is so important -- relying on run out is so unpredictable!
Great video. Any thoughts on the 16.5 Degree HL Sim 2 Max? The head size is the same as the 15 Degree 3 Wood just with the added loft.
Would love to know how much easier it would be to hit off the deck?!
you just described me to a tee .so i sold my 3 wood cobra f9 which was set to 16 deg but still couldn't hit it off the fairway and now got a ping g425 5 wood set at 17.5 deg on order after having a fitting and what a difference now looking forward too second shots on a par five and long par 3's
Good stuff. I go with driver 5 & 7 woods
Finally someone brings swing speed down to 80 mph for us seniors. Great video and I carry a 5 and 6 wood.
Very informative. Just what the doctor ordered. It’s a bit hard finding a fairway 7-wood. I like loft and spin. I’ll chase down some made by Mizuno.
Thanks for putting this video together, it's provided me with food for thought as My swing speed with my driver is 88 mph and I'm guilty of not using my 3 wood off the deck, preferring either my 19 or 22 degree hybrids so I might just put my 5 wood back in my bag and try that instead of my 3 wood for a change
I think you'll see a huge difference
@@AliTaylorGolf Thanks, I've got the shotscope v3 so I'll programe one of my sensors and give the 5 wood a try as that'll provide me with some useful data over several rounds.
This actually had the opposite effect for me. Ive always had a 3 hybrid, because everyone told me they were the most forgiving. I could just never hit it consistently. Finally gave a modern 3w a go (Srixon zx) and its night and day. Off the deck, off the tee, so much more consistent. No tops (like the hybrid) and super forgiving. Less dispersion as well. I am a high swing speed player - and for me i struggle with clubs that require a low swing speed as i just cant get a rhythm that works for them.
I use 4 wood I carry it farther and it’s easier to hit for me than 3 wood. I also find some new fairway heads are just too big and look difficult to hit from the fairway.
agree, my best ever setup was 4w in 17 dgr and 7w in 21 :) now i shifted to A-flex so i hav´nt really find my setup yet !!
3 woods are fine if hitting off the fairway or the ball is sitting up otherwise I go hybrid.
Very illuminating, confirm thoughts and results I've had, good video
Is there a table that relates swing speed to loft recommendation?
Better to try yourself using a launch monitor as shaft will impact the numbers too. Ideally try a wood you can adjust the dynamic loft. I prefer a hybrid over a 5w for shaping. So many options these days.....
I've been in love with my Taylormade Firesole bubbleshaft 7 Wood for many years. Best distance 200yds. Fairway Tee and rough. Now I need midsize grip an not available so going to try Wilson D9 7 wood.
You just need to change your grip to midsize if you prefer that. No
Need to change the club
@PeterNaidoo-kx1zd No longer available. There is one company making a compatible grip, and only in standard grip size. The bubble shaft is too large for more tape.
Very interesting video, I replaced my 3 wood with 5 wood last summer because it's easier to hit and carries further for me from the fairway. Looking into 7 wood at the moment to replace my hybrid which I tend to hook. Have no idea about my swing speed but eye opening to see you hit that far with your "slow" speed, I'm probably hitting it to hard.
I switched to 3 and 7 wood this year. Epic max. Regular flex. 3 wood goes 210-230. 7 wood 185-200. Those are approx. the big news if they are so easy off the ground. Also getting fit helped as well. Great video. My swing speed is not as fast as yours. But with the right club I can get the most out of it. Now if I could just make a damn putt. Lol
I currently carry a 15 degree 3 wood, if I changed to a 16.5 degree wood, would I see any benefits. Thanks
AT, Love that your arguments are well supported by the Trackman data.
Always nice when it's not just my opinion
Got fittet in the new Ping FWW... and dropped my 3 wood. Now carry a 5 wood (16,5), a 4 hybrid (20,5) and a 5 hybrid (24,5). Excellent gapping and only need 13 clubs in the bag 👌🏻
Good stuff
I dropped my 3 wood as well, I have a 5 wood at 18*, a 3 hybrid at 20*, a utility iron at 22* and a 5 hybrid at 24*, that set up really works for my long game. I haven't missed my 3 wood at all yet
Excellent video. This is why I mostly use my 20 degree hybrid for long 2nd shots and 3 wood only on short par 4s off the tee.
Ok, but I have a legitimate question though. If a 5 wood is easier to hit, and only travels 15-20 yards less distance than a 3 wood, which you could easily just make up hitting a 6 or 7 iron while approaching the green, as opposed to the short iron you'd probably use from the extra 20 yard distance with a 3 wood. Wouldn't it just be best to use the 5 wood since it's more accurate, has only a slightly higher loft, and you'd make it to the green in the same amount of strokes anyways? Sorry if that question was confusing, it's just a question I've always had on the 3 wood/5 wood debate.
@@kevinvassago it's a good question with a simple answer - I don't have a 5 wood !!
I'm slowly redoing my bag, which was full of 15 year old clubs because I only played 3-4 rounds/year for the past 10 years. I've replaced driver and putter. Irons will be next. Then I'll do woods/hybrids to get gapping right and do wedges last. 5 wood vs 3 hybrid is definitely something I will look at and test, especially with adjustable sleeves now.
@@lindsaynewell6319 that is a good answer😂 I've been redoing my bag too cuz all my clubs are older as well and it's time for some new ones since I've been goin out way more often. But listen to this! I have an 8 & 9 iron from the Tylor Made Pittsburgh permissom era, which I guess is the line of clubs where Taylor Made switched from actual wooden woods to metal woods. Anyways, I was teeing off on a par 3, 130 sumthin yards to the hole and used my 8 iron (from the 70's), I gave it the purest hit I think I've ever felt, it landed on the green about a foot away from the hole, and rolled right in! I got my first (and most likely last ever) hole in one, with a 50 yr old 8 iron!! I'm not sure I even want a new 8 iron, that one works just fine. I think new clubs can be important, but don't discount older ones either!
@@kevinvassago Congratulations. I'd retire it and hang it on the wall at home.
Smart video, even swinging quickly I think the best answer is a 5 wood lofted down or a 3 wood lofted up to the 16-17 degree range, making a 4 wood.
Got a tm m4 high launch 3 wood wich has 16,5* , shorter shaft and i call it my 4 wood
Ali.. if you plugged your five wood 1/2 to one inch, wouldn’t that generate more club head speed and work even better with the higher lofted five wood?
Hi Ali enjoyed the video and found it very useful. I need to replace my 22° hybrid should I opt for a 7 wood or is it just a question of going for a fitting? Thanks 😊
Nobody asked me, but I think 7 wood to the 4 hybrid is a good gap. The 7 wood is only 1° less loft but it’s considerably longer with a much deeper face. Keep the 4 hybrid
How very apt after looking at changing woods ! 3 wood no more for me, I’ve found utopia, the 5 wood all day long, just the right loft in winter, summer I’ll carry longer than my 3 wood with more control & fairways hit ! One happy golfer 😀
Hi Ali great video mate and i think this will benefit a lot of guy’s choices when sorting there woods out 👍
Hope it helps
Another great video Ali. If you carry a 10.5 driver would you suggest making the 5wood stronger at 17° ? Appreciate your input. Thanks
Possibly, 17 deg sounds good
Ali, thanks as always!
Eye opening! Thanks!😎👍
What about the 4 wood ? I carry 4 n 5 both very easy to hit
Thank you great video
This was a very informativ video !! Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent topic. I flip flop between a 5 wood and a 3 hybrid. I feel like my accuracy is better with the hybrid. Enjoyed this a lot. PS-kind of surprised at the high smash factor with a 3 or 5 wood. I think it's your precise ball striking?
Delofting the club at impact
Great video... very useful info...
Glad it was helpful!
I have a 5 and 7 wood now, I hit the 7 off the mat further and straighter than I do the 5 off a tee.
Play 4 wood @16.5° and 7 wood @21.75°
Great set up
Great video
I dial a cobra f9 5 wood down to 17.5 and a 7 wood. My gaps are pretty damned good
I really like that set up!
I use a 4 wood. Find it to be a nice balance of distance and forgiveness
Absolutely
Stronger lofted 5 woods for me. 3 woods are tough. On fairways, the lie has the perfect
Would a hybrid not be a saver club when playing from a less ideal lie (which is the more likely case for me), like first cut or even rough? Isn't that why it is called a fairway (wood/metal whatever) vs a rescue? I play up to a 5I (thinking of replacing it with a 5H or 7W). Top end of my bag is Driver (10°), 3W (16°) and 4H (21°). So does it make sense to replace my 5I with a 7W going from a fairway to a hybrid and then back to a fairway down my bag? I know the answer is to go for a fitting, but fitting is done from a matt, real life is an %$@& lie.
What if your angle of attack is level (not negative)? Would you recommend playing a 3 wood-- or loft up a degree or so to treat it as a four wood?
Depends a bit on your speed
5 wood is the new 3 wood, 7 wood is the new 5 wood
Interesting
I carry a 3-wood, 5 wood, 7 wood and a 9 wood my 5 wood replaces my 4-iron 7 wood replace is my 5-iron 9 wood replaces my 6-iron... I swing about 94 miles an hour and hit my 3 wood (16 degree)about 230 off the turf with a very high ball flight
Don't understand what all da fuss is about!
Just get u a 4wd or 4wd hybrid dat u can adjust lofts from 16-19..
Datz all u need!
So is the U.S.A. !!!!