I really feel for Star Wars fans. As an outsider, I see a corporate entity grabbing cash while putting the franchise in the hands of untalented and inexperienced creatives who appear disinterested in the soul & legacy of Star Wars. And that must suck as a fan.
I feel like it’s more sinister than that. These people aren’t just being flippant about lore, they are intentionally antagonizing fans. Going out of there way to do blatantly slimy things, claim they are not doing it, then when the evidence is presented they just laugh and mock the fans. The anti-white male thing is a prime example: we could all see how aggressively they were shoving “diverse”, female and “queer presenting” characters with all white males being sidelined. When pointed out, that was just dismissed as insecurity and racism, then O’keefe exposes the Disney anti-white male policy, and now they are releasing videos mocking fans, outwardly admitting they don’t like white men and pretending that their racism is justified. It’s not. It never is.
Think Cynic hit the nail on the head there "KK thinks Star Wars is for ever" i.e. that it's an inexhaustible supply of money Lucasfilm can mine for ever...
18:14 honestly though how hard would it have been for them to establish that a traitor shows up with supplies every three or four months? I want to spice cream. Oh no, we’re all out. This spice went bad. You’ll have to wait two months for the trader to show up again. Then it turns out that she’s got some kind of battered data pad, because she was curious about the outside world, and it’s got a bunch of tales of the Jedi on it. So yes, she has this knowledge of the Jedi that’s coming from almost a kids book About Jedi that she got from the outside world.
Do not forget, Star Wars went away after The Return of the Jedi, around 1984 - 1985. I was 10 in 1985, by then I was into Transformers. Yes, there was the two Ewok Movies but at the time, I did not know they had been made. Star Wars did not come back till 1991 -1993, with the release of The Heir to the Empire novel and then the Dark Empire Comic. There was no Star Wars for years.
While the “super speed” in ep 1 was too much I think it is reasonable that the force enhances physical abilities making Jedi faster, able to jump higher, etc. And other force powers, mind reading, shatter point, battle mediation, witch magic, old with rituals, etc, I think are good for the world. BUT they need to be limited, the writes need to make it clear those abilities require year or decades of specialized training and dedication. You can almost think about it like education the basic are: telekinesis, mind tricks, physical amplification, lightsabers and foresight/sensing. Every Jedi learns those and can use them then there are more advanced things shatter point, rituals, lighting, battle mediation, etc. These would reserved for Jedi masters who have a deeper understanding and connection to the force and have dedicated years/decades to the study, development, and practice of a couple specific abilities. This is basic game design logic, cool abilities require specialization. A master Jedi diplomat cloud have something like what squid game used on the crazy guy but his padawan should be decades away from that level of manipulation. The fact the writers can’t even build in a basic system like that has killed modern starwars and taken the fun out of old EU force abilities that were much stronger then what we see in the movies.
I was done with Star Wars when they destroyed Han Solo's character and then killed him in such a stupid way...and when they had to one-up the death star. So many people were coming out of the cinema going oh, that was so epic or whatever, and I didnt get it. Every prequel was better than the Force Awakens. And pretty sure just about everything else they've made, though I havent and have no plans to watch any of it.
Jedi brooks loses points for taking will smiths side in the slap. This wasnt some stranger in the street making fun of your wife. It was a comedien at the oscars making a shitty joke. The point is will Smith went up and assaulted another person and noone did anything and then will got a standing ovation. Your explanation and what happened dont align. Sorry
20:37 totally with you on that Cynic. Pirates 2 & 3 were such a waste. Some brilliant concepts that weren't well executed and they absolutely diluted what made the forst one special. I feel the same way about Incredibles 3 and Inside Out 2.
I hate that nonsense with the dragon being bigger than Storms End! Especially when their eggs are less than 1 foot long. The Dragons on Pern start from larger eggs and end up much, much smaller. Same with the giant Red Keep in the HBO bilge. Huger is not always better.
19:49 Jedi Brooks: when was the last time you cared about the force? Movie cynic: well this is why I don't like Kathleen Kennedy because it's like what happened to the pirates of the carribean with Johnny depps performance and that's how I feel about the MCU and star wars. Lol what?
Piss off Leslie Hedley. The point of Rashomon is that everyone tells his story to put himself in the best light. If she said that, she's already given away the twist. Nor will she have the guts to show her self-insert being self-serving.
I know you guys don't exactly get into the broader hot-button issues going in around the world in lieu of pop culture and cinema but; the thing you guys were talking about on the competency seeming to be too high a standard for basic work in writing/producing/directing isn't limited to only cinema/Hollywood - it's a damn pandemic of incompetent / lazy workers that, I believe at least, stems from the broader societal nihilism that's rapidly washing over our society in the West. (And the East too, actually) It's... bad. Anywhere I go, an order gets messed up on something extremely basic. A shipment gets lost for one single item. A car repair goes horribly wrong due to god-knows what reasons etc etc... The list of examples I've experienced PERSONALLY in just the last two years is staggering. Of course there's numerous reasons behind all this but I just wanted to overall say: competency is at all-time low across the ENTIRE job workforce. (Also I've noticed many people today, regardless of age or gender, have horrendous/nonexistent work ethic)
@@matthewcarroll2533 no, what your saying is just wrong lmao. people are just as incompetent as they were pre-2020 (if not less). Only difference between the 90s, 00s, and 2010s is that as time progresses more opportunities become available and theres more of a chance that, what can be best described as those that are "less bright" slip through the cracks. Imagine what the best film stars from the 70s think of 90s flicks.
Totally agree, quality has decreased everywhere mainstream, while prices have all gone up. Clothing, food, service, airlines, the Disney parks, musical equipment etc etc. I recently got a mini hifi system from the early 2000s and the quality of the sound from just a basic little system that used to be available in a department store is astounding compared to a $500 portable speaker available at the moment. Cinema tickets cost an arm and a leg but Cinema decorum has gone out the window. There's a real tangible decrease in care and an increase in hopelessness. I think Echo Chamberlain mentioned something in a video about Gen Z wanting to see themselves and our current world reflected in media, while previous generations (especially millenials) preffered entertainment that was either somewhat aspiration, inspirational or at the very least, fun escapism.
Is this a repost? [Nope, but nap time for me !] I saw this... Either way, There's a reason why most ytubers don't use those flashy lights behind them: the flicker rate is psychoactive.* When I was on good terms with AZ I told him about this, and he took the lights down, even the florescents themselves can be used to flicker (the electricity itself gets modulated and why the change to LEDs, btw... LEDs can be protected super easy, barely an inconvenience... most often used to keep the ppl docile, but it's way better without the gov't programming flicker lights. I can't put links in ytube comments anymore but any Google search about this should be easy to verify or falsify. Check footnote... I think it's funny you have either a Nick Cage Black guest (guy that still can stand the pain to keep the top of his head blond... perfectly natural) or a Snoop Dog Black guest like this video. I vote for this guy over the big guy cause the Snoop says more interesting things and seems more mentally active than the Nick Cage guy. _______________________________________ * ruclips.net/video/A6FYUh3wNBg/видео.htmlsi=zQODCGvefH22oupn ~ @8:00 you see the glasses light flicker. This is _for good,_ of course there are evil uses... just to show you the tech isn't recent or a fairy tale and on ytube itself.
I'm not a huge star wars fan. I mean I like the prequel trilogy specifically because it looks better. The writing for the original trilogy was much better though some rather clunky dialogue. I liked the clone wars animation because I like animation. But this new star wars is absolutely shite. Its just loo Ike Disney to kill a franchise. They did it to Final Fantasy. They did it to Marvel. Next up Star Wars.
For those not paying attention. Star Wars has Lightsabres and The Force. If your space opera doesn't have those then it's not Star Wars. It's Battle Beyond the Stars.
@@matthewcarroll2533 until you realize that the old dude is a secret Jedi as evidenced by him holding a lightsaber crystal. Season 2 is about to be chock-full of lightsaber action and rock lifting, just you watch.
@@FringeSpectre Oh I don't doubt it for a second. Once Disney found out people actually LIKED Andor, they're probably salivating at how much damage they can do to it in Season 2.
Star Wars is lightsabers and fun and starships. Andor is boring as fuck, and it’s. Not. Star Wars. It’s an episode of a Stargate SG-1. Can you do lord of the rings without wizards, elves, and swords? Stop blaming Star Wars for being what it is and encouraging writers to strip it down to a generic sci fi show.
I like Jedi brooks alot and I don't mind if he talks alot but it's the interrupting I don't like but I guess it's all part of the Livestream experience lol
On the subject of Andor not really being Star Wars. This is my opinion also, tho not because it doesn't have lightsabers or whatever, but because it lacks the magic of SW. It is a case of adults taking something that was made for all ages and hogging it to themselves. Even tho I am obviously an adult, I kind of resent it as a result, despite it generally being well written etc. As a sidenote, they really hamstrung themselves by focusing on the character of Andor, and naming the show after him. Should have come up with a new character who isn't dull as dishwater and whose destiny wasn't already known, and named the show "The Rebellion" or something along those lines.
I really feel for Star Wars fans. As an outsider, I see a corporate entity grabbing cash while putting the franchise in the hands of untalented and inexperienced creatives who appear disinterested in the soul & legacy of Star Wars. And that must suck as a fan.
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I feel like it’s more sinister than that. These people aren’t just being flippant about lore, they are intentionally antagonizing fans. Going out of there way to do blatantly slimy things, claim they are not doing it, then when the evidence is presented they just laugh and mock the fans.
The anti-white male thing is a prime example: we could all see how aggressively they were shoving “diverse”, female and “queer presenting” characters with all white males being sidelined. When pointed out, that was just dismissed as insecurity and racism, then O’keefe exposes the Disney anti-white male policy, and now they are releasing videos mocking fans, outwardly admitting they don’t like white men and pretending that their racism is justified.
It’s not. It never is.
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1:51:08 - Best "Fuck No!" I heard in a while.
a hand thrown knife travels slower than a blaster bolt
Think Cynic hit the nail on the head there "KK thinks Star Wars is for ever" i.e. that it's an inexhaustible supply of money Lucasfilm can mine for ever...
I love this show, but I was particularly delighted by the cameo appearance of Cynic’s cat 😺
18:14 honestly though how hard would it have been for them to establish that a traitor shows up with supplies every three or four months?
I want to spice cream. Oh no, we’re all out. This spice went bad. You’ll have to wait two months for the trader to show up again.
Then it turns out that she’s got some kind of battered data pad, because she was curious about the outside world, and it’s got a bunch of tales of the Jedi on it. So yes, she has this knowledge of the Jedi that’s coming from almost a kids book About Jedi that she got from the outside world.
Delighted to see this up now.
Thanks for your passionate answer to my superchat, I appreciated it.
As I understand it the actor playing Maul wasn't an actor just a martial arts expert so his lines were kept to a minimum
His lines were dubbed over too by Peter serofiniwich
@@emuman09 love that guy
That martial artist, Ray Park, was then given a role in the first X-Men film and, well… we saw just how bad his acting was.
@@tylerskiss not the best representation of toad ill I've you that lol
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Professor Artoo sounds just like DasBoSchitt. Thought I was listening to EFAP instead of BSUP for a hot minute 😅
Holy crap it's uncanny lmao. The manner of speech is quite different but the voice is wild
Is it me, or is Platoon's avatar more animated than it has been in a good while?
Maybe.
He positively doing a jig in that chair.
His avatar looks wasted.
Do not forget, Star Wars went away after The Return of the Jedi, around 1984 - 1985. I was 10 in 1985, by then I was into Transformers. Yes, there was the two Ewok Movies but at the time, I did not know they had been made. Star Wars did not come back till 1991 -1993, with the release of The Heir to the Empire novel and then the Dark Empire Comic. There was no Star Wars for years.
The Little Platoon is my second favourite media-reviewing homosexual.
He’s great because he understands the difference between people being homophobic and people who simply just do not want to be propagandized to.
While the “super speed” in ep 1 was too much I think it is reasonable that the force enhances physical abilities making Jedi faster, able to jump higher, etc.
And other force powers, mind reading, shatter point, battle mediation, witch magic, old with rituals, etc, I think are good for the world. BUT they need to be limited, the writes need to make it clear those abilities require year or decades of specialized training and dedication. You can almost think about it like education the basic are: telekinesis, mind tricks, physical amplification, lightsabers and foresight/sensing. Every Jedi learns those and can use them then there are more advanced things shatter point, rituals, lighting, battle mediation, etc. These would reserved for Jedi masters who have a deeper understanding and connection to the force and have dedicated years/decades to the study, development, and practice of a couple specific abilities.
This is basic game design logic, cool abilities require specialization. A master Jedi diplomat cloud have something like what squid game used on the crazy guy but his padawan should be decades away from that level of manipulation. The fact the writers can’t even build in a basic system like that has killed modern starwars and taken the fun out of old EU force abilities that were much stronger then what we see in the movies.
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Great choice of guests for the topic at hand. I hope you talk a bit about House of the Dragon next time.
I was done with Star Wars when they destroyed Han Solo's character and then killed him in such a stupid way...and when they had to one-up the death star. So many people were coming out of the cinema going oh, that was so epic or whatever, and I didnt get it. Every prequel was better than the Force Awakens. And pretty sure just about everything else they've made, though I havent and have no plans to watch any of it.
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Jedi brooks loses points for taking will smiths side in the slap. This wasnt some stranger in the street making fun of your wife.
It was a comedien at the oscars making a shitty joke. The point is will Smith went up and assaulted another person and noone did anything and then will got a standing ovation. Your explanation and what happened dont align. Sorry
The Yass-side of the Force.
I cannot get over Jedi Brooks saying "Quay Gon". It's super annoying
20:37 totally with you on that Cynic. Pirates 2 & 3 were such a waste. Some brilliant concepts that weren't well executed and they absolutely diluted what made the forst one special.
I feel the same way about Incredibles 3 and Inside Out 2.
There was an Incredibles 3!?
@@tylerskiss lol, typo, but God I hope I just didn't put that out into the world 😅
I bet Trinity is the Sith Lord
when you make media So bad that we no longer care about spoilers, you know you have a problem
I hate that nonsense with the dragon being bigger than Storms End! Especially when their eggs are less than 1 foot long. The Dragons on Pern start from larger eggs and end up much, much smaller. Same with the giant Red Keep in the HBO bilge. Huger is not always better.
Idk what eggs have to do with it. The largest Sauropod Dino eggs were like basketball size.
19:49
Jedi Brooks: when was the last time you cared about the force?
Movie cynic: well this is why I don't like Kathleen Kennedy because it's like what happened to the pirates of the carribean with Johnny depps performance and that's how I feel about the MCU and star wars.
Lol what?
The Little Platoon
Yaaaaaas! Yass.
Its like star wars is good when its not bad
Great stream but I think a little more advance notice given the necessary inconsistency recently would help momentum
Well, it's uploaded to Little Platoon's channel first.
18:57 it’s okay it was a Lu Lu lemon robe guys it makes sense 🙃
Piss off Leslie Hedley. The point of Rashomon is that everyone tells his story to put himself in the best light. If she said that, she's already given away the twist. Nor will she have the guts to show her self-insert being self-serving.
I know you guys don't exactly get into the broader hot-button issues going in around the world in lieu of pop culture and cinema but; the thing you guys were talking about on the competency seeming to be too high a standard for basic work in writing/producing/directing isn't limited to only cinema/Hollywood - it's a damn pandemic of incompetent / lazy workers that, I believe at least, stems from the broader societal nihilism that's rapidly washing over our society in the West. (And the East too, actually)
It's... bad. Anywhere I go, an order gets messed up on something extremely basic. A shipment gets lost for one single item. A car repair goes horribly wrong due to god-knows what reasons etc etc... The list of examples I've experienced PERSONALLY in just the last two years is staggering. Of course there's numerous reasons behind all this but I just wanted to overall say: competency is at all-time low across the ENTIRE job workforce. (Also I've noticed many people today, regardless of age or gender, have horrendous/nonexistent work ethic)
Lol bro nobody cares
@@jbeen.da1That's untrue.
@@jbeen.da1 I guess I found the lazy employee in the crowd. :P
Anyway, I care - as evidenced by my comment, lol. Seemed pretty simple to me.
@@matthewcarroll2533 no, what your saying is just wrong lmao. people are just as incompetent as they were pre-2020 (if not less). Only difference between the 90s, 00s, and 2010s is that as time progresses more opportunities become available and theres more of a chance that, what can be best described as those that are "less bright" slip through the cracks. Imagine what the best film stars from the 70s think of 90s flicks.
Totally agree, quality has decreased everywhere mainstream, while prices have all gone up.
Clothing, food, service, airlines, the Disney parks, musical equipment etc etc.
I recently got a mini hifi system from the early 2000s and the quality of the sound from just a basic little system that used to be available in a department store is astounding compared to a $500 portable speaker available at the moment.
Cinema tickets cost an arm and a leg but Cinema decorum has gone out the window.
There's a real tangible decrease in care and an increase in hopelessness.
I think Echo Chamberlain mentioned something in a video about Gen Z wanting to see themselves and our current world reflected in media, while previous generations (especially millenials) preffered entertainment that was either somewhat aspiration, inspirational or at the very least, fun escapism.
Wait! Did The Movie Cynic not know what docking is?
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Why do you keep pronouncing it Quay-Gone? "He's Canadian. Don't worry about it..."
The beginning was too spicy, eh?
Oh?
What was it? 🙂
Can't remember exactly, so it must not have been too bad. *shrug*
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Is this a repost? [Nope, but nap time for me !] I saw this... Either way, There's a reason why most ytubers don't use those flashy lights behind them: the flicker rate is psychoactive.* When I was on good terms with AZ I told him about this, and he took the lights down, even the florescents themselves can be used to flicker (the electricity itself gets modulated and why the change to LEDs, btw... LEDs can be protected super easy, barely an inconvenience... most often used to keep the ppl docile, but it's way better without the gov't programming flicker lights. I can't put links in ytube comments anymore but any Google search about this should be easy to verify or falsify. Check footnote...
I think it's funny you have either a Nick Cage Black guest (guy that still can stand the pain to keep the top of his head blond... perfectly natural) or a Snoop Dog Black guest like this video. I vote for this guy over the big guy cause the Snoop says more interesting things and seems more mentally active than the Nick Cage guy.
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* ruclips.net/video/A6FYUh3wNBg/видео.htmlsi=zQODCGvefH22oupn ~ @8:00 you see the glasses light flicker. This is _for good,_ of course there are evil uses... just to show you the tech isn't recent or a fairy tale and on ytube itself.
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I'm not a huge star wars fan. I mean I like the prequel trilogy specifically because it looks better. The writing for the original trilogy was much better though some rather clunky dialogue. I liked the clone wars animation because I like animation. But this new star wars is absolutely shite. Its just loo Ike Disney to kill a franchise. They did it to Final Fantasy. They did it to Marvel. Next up Star Wars.
For those not paying attention. Star Wars has Lightsabres and The Force. If your space opera doesn't have those then it's not Star Wars. It's Battle Beyond the Stars.
Also for the rest of you not paying attention: Andor was a masterpiece of SW media and required no lightsabers or Force. ggwp
@@matthewcarroll2533 until you realize that the old dude is a secret Jedi as evidenced by him holding a lightsaber crystal. Season 2 is about to be chock-full of lightsaber action and rock lifting, just you watch.
@@FringeSpectre Oh I don't doubt it for a second. Once Disney found out people actually LIKED Andor, they're probably salivating at how much damage they can do to it in Season 2.
@@matthewcarroll2533 the classic dilemma of writing something people like: The top brass notices it's success and takes it upon themselves to fix it.
Star Wars is lightsabers and fun and starships. Andor is boring as fuck, and it’s. Not. Star Wars. It’s an episode of a Stargate SG-1. Can you do lord of the rings without wizards, elves, and swords? Stop blaming Star Wars for being what it is and encouraging writers to strip it down to a generic sci fi show.
I love y'all... but "jedibrooks" speaks too much
BSUP: 90% "jedibrooks"
I like Jedi brooks alot and I don't mind if he talks alot but it's the interrupting I don't like but I guess it's all part of the Livestream experience lol
On the subject of Andor not really being Star Wars. This is my opinion also, tho not because it doesn't have lightsabers or whatever, but because it lacks the magic of SW. It is a case of adults taking something that was made for all ages and hogging it to themselves. Even tho I am obviously an adult, I kind of resent it as a result, despite it generally being well written etc.
As a sidenote, they really hamstrung themselves by focusing on the character of Andor, and naming the show after him. Should have come up with a new character who isn't dull as dishwater and whose destiny wasn't already known, and named the show "The Rebellion" or something along those lines.