EZDrummer 3's Song Creator Advanced Series 1 of 3 Toontrack
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- This video covers building a song from scratch in EZDrummer 3's Song Creator Feature. This is video 1 of 3 of a short series.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:47 - Overview
02:16 - The Workspace
03:25 - Song Part Colors
04:22 - What midi is used
05:44 - Sorting Song Parts
07:31 - Building Song Structure
08:00 - Find Intro/Verse
09:18 - Pre Chorus
10:52 - Chorus
11:54 - Structure thoughts, navigation, and editing
14:58 - Bridge
16:02 - Structure edit and Outro
17:47 - Wrap up
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I love how thorough you are. Even though I am familiar with how this program works, there is always something that's taught in these videos that I didn't know. Awesome!
Thank you, Ron. Always a pleasure hearing from you.
Yours are the best tutorials on EZDrummer that I've found. I especially love how you talk about how to use it within a DAW, which lots of other folks fail to cover. Thanks!
Thank you for taking the time to say, Len!
Great Video , Sir
Thank you, Rone!
Totally dig your presentation style! Informative, insightful and keeps me engaged. Well done! 🙂
Thanks for taking the time to say!
You are a fantastic teacher. Pleasure to watch. Thanks!
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Dude you rock as an instructor!! Thanks for your efforts!!
You came back, Bo! Awesome and thanks for commenting!
Nice Shirt!! and the video ain't bad either!!
Michael!!
Very articulate and well stated. Thank you for this high quality walk through.
Thank you, Michael!!
You are the best at the detail of this software. Thank you for everything you are doing for us. I have been learning a lot from your teachings. ✌
Thanks for taking the time to say, Rick!
Your enunciation and cadence and delivery is Excellent...... Well Done !
Thank you for saying, J!
Great video series man, thank you.
As someone who finally saved enough for EZD3 this was really helpful and insightful
Great to hear!
"Because I have serious buying habits" gave me a belly laugh! You and me too, brother! I am really enjoying your RUclips and FB channels. Thanks so much for what you do!
My pleasure. Thanks for the encouragement!
I bought EZdrummer 3 a couple of days ago (3/23/24) and your tutorials are the way to go for learning it! As has already been said, I also love how you talk about using it within a DAW, as well. Great job!
Great to hear and thank you!
Awesome, thank you!
You got it! Thanks for commenting.
Great tutorial, thanks for making it! I appreciate you sharing your musical perspectives.
Thanks for saying!
SHAWN - you and your content are so relevant and accessible - a simple thank you isn’t enough. I WOULD LOVE IT if you shared a place we could find music you’ve been involved in.
Thank you for saying, dp! My industry handle is Shootie HG, mostly video game soundtrack work.
very well done. I installed EZd3 today and look forward to learning it. You video is a nice help.
Great to hear, Thomas!
Nice job once again I'm gonna play it a few times cheers
Thank you, Shane!
This was great, I don't know jack about drum parts and the various formats so this was very informative. Thanks so much!
Great to hear, thanks!
I really enjoyed this video and learned quite a lot. You are a very talented teacher. I look forward to watching more videos from you. Keep up the great work!
Thank you for saying!
Classic Shootie tutorial. This is vital - even if you're an old hand - it makes for sound (musically and technically) set ups for a vast host of applications. Complete with "standard" Shootie music tips (like audition the immediately preceding clip before auditioning to get the feel). Even some basic stuff about the function of the musical structures you are building..... There are also tasty morsels of the numerous refinements to come (in the next tutorial....) a staggering piece of training just 6 weeks out from EZD3's release.
Great job and many thanks....
Thank you, Brent. I always appreciate your comments.
This is a very well done and well articulated video bro, and dig the Barry White tone to your voice too...
Thank you, Billy!
Excellent video
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Really really really good video! Just what I was after! Liked and subscribed.
Welcome and thank you for the comment!
Excellent video! Thanks!
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You inspired me not only to improve my ezdrummer skills but also to get more stoned! Cheers
lol! Thank you for commenting and enjoy ;)
Hell yeah, thanks man!
You got it!
Great vid Shawn... again
Thank you for saying, Ean!! Welcome back.
Excellent job!!! Very clear and helpful!!!
Thank you, Jean!
great walk thru to the song creator for ez drummer 3... just purchased it.
Welcome to EZD!! Bunch of stuff at Shootieschool.com if you’re interested.
Just bought EZ Drummer 3 after using nothing but MT Power Drumkit 2 for years, and man, you are a life saver.
Awesome, thanks for saying! I'm doing a beginner live stream tomorrow if you're interested. ruclips.net/user/livengks5iS7TYI?feature=share
great video. and I absolutely loooove your T-shirt man 👍
This is the way!
Wow! Made my day. Shootie popped up on my first search. I have EZ Drummer 2. last used it November 2019. About to get back using my DAW and EZ Drummer 2. After reading about the new Bandmate, I decided I am definitely going to upgrade. So, I searched youtube for bandmate drag and drop wav to Daw the first video I clicked on was the best: I was elated to see Shootie, because I owe it to him for being the one who taught me how to create my first drum beats in EZ 2. I was wondering if there was anyone on youtube talking about 3, and like magic I found Shootie again. So, I know as soon as I get ready, I will dive in review his previous videos and then move onto the new. Thanks a million for what you do Shootie!
Hi Charles, welcome back! If you haven't purchases the upgrade yet, you can save a few bucks at thomann music, btw. Thank s for the comment!
Great video. Thanks
You got it, thank you!
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Thank you, Terminal!
That was super useful thanks for making this
You got it, thank you!
Thank you for your help.
You got it!
Good video. I learned some new things I didn’t know. Just upgraded to ez3 from ez2 so this will be very helpful. Thanks.
Welcome to EZD3!
Thank you!!
You got it!
Thanks!
My 6th ever RUclips donation! Thank you so much Edgar. You are always so fantastic to me!
The comments don't lie here! You got the voice for radio, look for TV and knowledge to keep us engaged! I'm most likely going to EZDrummer but going to watch some more vids first. Looks like a real songwriting flow saver :)
Thank you so much for saying, Adam!
"A weapon of Mass Music Production". Dude that's hilarious & outstanding at the same time.
I was hoping it wasn't too Cheezy!! Thank you, Sean!
Awesome vid!!!!!
Bernz! Thank you!
cool man the short cuts save me some time, I just have to use them often enough so I wont forget them. Thanks! BTW Zoom bar is a great name for the zoom bar lol
Zoom bar!!! Thank you, Eduardo!
Thanks
You got it!
Great videos! I hope the next version has some AI to help create ralistic variations off a groove we choose or create. Also some smart fills like Logic's Drummer would be helpful. Can't believe no Drum company has included these yet.
Thank you. Logic's Drummer is really cool. If you're looking into EZD3, do check out the Edit Play Style feature, it can work some magic as well once you're familiar with it.
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Fair play great vid Iv definitely found my swizz army knife with this way of recording..
Great to hear!
The most impressive thing here is not EZD3, it is the fact that you are using your "tutorial guy" voice while doing things on the screen, all without constant cutting.
Thanks you, Adam! It is quite the production.
Hola! Gracias por los videos, te hago una consulta, existen en el ezdrumer grooves de folkore argentino? chacarera, chamame, zamba? gracias!
Great job ... looking forward to #2 and #3 ... when a beat is being analyzed when you put it in the tap to groove ... it does alway consider 3rd party grooves (e.g. Groove Monkey)?
I can only say that they are an option. If I used a Groove Monkee file as Song Creator Source file, the chances would increase of returning Groove Monkee results. That's my observation so far.
Vid #2 just came out an hour ago.
Thanks!
Thanks for the excellent tutorials...very helpful for establishing workflow. You mentioned the song colors at the top of the page but how do you set them up?
Thanks. There is nothing to set up. Those are the default colors.
@@ShootieSchool Understood, I like the default colors. But mine don't show up across the top like yours do. How do I get the default colors to display up top like you have in your video?
@@jmetalguitar Those were graphics I added myself for the explanation.
Thanks for this awesome video. How would you go about inserting a breakdown. Would you just consider it to be a bridge or just a seperate verse?
You would create a custom Song Part which is covered in the next vid or so in this series.
Hey fella. I love your videos. Thanks so much for sharing 🙂 I wonder if you can help me figure out the solution to a problem. I'm using Reaper and EZdrummer 3. I write using the region playlist. So I'm writing chunks of songs, one at a time, making each chunk a region, and then using the playlist to re-roder the chunks until I'm happy with the song structure. Due to the nature of my songs, this is a very in depth and messy process. The beauty is that onec I have everything in the right order I can paste the region playlist at the edit cursor and everything is in order. Great! But..... the drums I wrote throughout the process (using EZdrummer 3 as a VST in reaper) don't get copied across to the newly pasted song. Do you know if there is a way to get them to paste into place or do I have to cut up all the sections of the EZdrummer work I originally did, and paste it all into it's new positions by hand? I'm hoping your experience covers this and that you might have a lovely solution! Thanks for any attempt. It's very much appreciated as I'm wasting so much time with this problem. Martyn 🙂
If your midi is in EZ, then you have to do the arranging edits again in EZ. That does not sync. If you're in Reaper, then I'm not sure what your issue is.
@@ShootieSchool I'm kind of in both. I'm using EZ as a vst within Reaper, not as a standalone. I make a baseline in reaper, and then open up EZ within Reaper to write the kit for it (because I prefer the interface in EZ). But then when, in reaper, I paste the region playlist at the edit cursor, the EZ midi doesn't paste itself across. The only way I can make the drums sounds paste across is to take the midi out of EZ and put it into reaper itself before pasting the region playlist at the edit cursor. Then it pastes across in reaper, which is fine in itself but annoying because then I'm stuck with editing those drums in reaper which is a less fun drum editing interface.
So it's either get the drums perfect before pasting the region playlist (not very likely to happen because the desire to change things up always comes again and again), or go through some laborious process of chopping up the EZ midi and moving it all one piece at a time .
Sorry, it's really complicated to describe.
@@supergongspa It's not complicated, your last paragraph confirmed. You're at the limitation of the EZD Song Track. Simply make a choice, one way or the other. There's no further solution. I deal with the extra arranging and stay in EZ. Everyone has their preference though.
@@ShootieSchool aww, thanks for replying man. And fair play, limitations are what they are. I'll edit in EZ too. 😊
Hi, Great tutorial. With EZY Drummer 2 when you hover the mouse over the time line it tells you the name of the groove. (Ballad, straight 4/4, slow rock 75bpm, fill no.5) Do you know if there's a way to do this in EZY Drummer 3? Would save me writing them down. Thanks
I don't think so. Instead, Right-click on a Groove and select Find>Select Containing Folder. If you have a clean install of EZD, it should find your Groove every time.
Do you have a 2" tape reel in the back tk give your audio warmth? If so any chance you could do a video on it? That be awesome for pwoplw like myswlf ro umderstand how to use that with their d.a.w.s
It's just a 1/2" I use to record on with my dad as a kid. I don't incorporate it, It still works though.
Thank you for doing these tutorials. You convinced me to finally upgrade from 2 to 3. Did you create that song part graphic at the top of the screen independently of EZD or is it a view option? If it is I can't find it.
Welcome to EZD3! Yes, I made those graphics. They are not in the program.
hey shootie ! is there any video on how to get separate audio tracks in your DAW with EZ3?
I use studio One and struggle finding the solution.
ruclips.net/video/IUOaysrX6Bo/видео.html try this one
Cant find the "other" video about the song structure area. Where it be? Thanks!
Thanks for asking because I forgot to put it in the description...
Vid 2 of 3: Comes out Thursday the 16th
Vid 3 of 3: Comes out this weekend (20th at the latest)
Yes I'm not seeing a link either maybe Shootie School havnt uploaded the 2nd video yet I don't see one in your videos list yet ?
@@williamshaneblyth We posted at the same time. They're done, I'll lose a ton of views if I don't space them out a few days each. Stay tuned ;)
thank you!!
side question: I was wondering if the bandmate part of EZD3 can also deal with 3rd party midi loop. I see my Groove Monkey and Ugritone loops in the "groove" page but not in the bandmate tab.
Not yet. TT claims in a future update though.
@@ShootieSchool fingers' crossed then! :) That would really be a "game changer" for people with a midi library but who has recently switched to TT's products :)
thank you for your educative videos and fast reply!
@@jeanfredericmartin8954 I look forward to it as well. You got it!
Great stuff. What about your edrum kit, we see on your right? Do you use it to compose your rough songs' parts too with EZD3 samples on?
Certainly. I use it for all reasons, record ideas, fun... always through EZD or SD. I’ll get into it more over time with my channel.
@@ShootieSchool Oh! Interesting. Given how thorough you are with your current series, this should be a great one too. I often see song covers or various marketing edrums reviews, where they sell edrums by saying that it's possible, but almost nobody goes into the nitty-gritty of using these software connected to their edrums to record ideas and songs' parts.
@@Juicexlx Is triggering EZD with EDrums your primary focus?
@@ShootieSchool Yeah. I bought an Alesis DM-10 MKII Pro, but because I had a past knee injury (playing Soccer), I bought another kick pad & 2 independent pedals as one leg will be weaker than the other for sure. The kit isn't mounted yet. I just received my pedals yesterday and I'm waiting for the 2nd kick (covid related delay until July). Any video you're doing is interesting, but yeah, I'll want to plug my kit and play with triggers and a DAW eventually so I can track what I learn from total noob to decent hobbyist and avoid the module samples, which I've heard aren't that great...
Beside, I noticed that a lot of people have edrums now, but never show what they did to get the darn thing to trigger EZD/SD. They just go straight to doing song covers, so I believe that you would have a niche of new content that doesn't exist on RUclips, since most people use MIDI piano or pads to design their drum tracks.
@@Juicexlx If you're on Facebook, message Shootie School there, I have a specific EZD3 for edrummers group to recommend to you. I Hope you enjoy the kit and good luck with healing up and rocking out!
Good tutorial, I followed along, created a song and will continue the mini-series with it. I don't see 1 thing anywhere however...the length of the song as in minutes/seconds...where the hell is that at?!
Thank you, Dresden! There is no time indicator, I think only people using a DAW can see that in real-time.
@@ShootieSchool yeah i think it just shows measures in the EZD software
Is it possible to change the tempo for each midi file?
There is a tempo editor. Menu>Track>TempoEditor. If you're using a DAW, you must edit tempos in your timeline.
If you're talking about the feel of a beat, There is a Tempo Button/Menu on the Grooves Tab for half/regular and double time.
Does the song creator in EZ3 have something that isn’t available in SD3??? I have SD3 and EZ2. Great video. Thanks
Just the graphic representation of the song arrangements. All the same.
@@ShootieSchool Thanks. Great videos man. This continues to be a game changer tool for everyone except our drummer friends. It’s still important to include them and make them feel important every once in a while. Ha
@@TimMilliken Are you referencing the content of my videos?
No your content and videos are awesome. I’m saying the ez3 program is so good we don’t really need drummers anymore.
@@TimMilliken Thanks, Looney! Let's not let drummers go extinct though.
Verses are blue, Fills are red, I'm learning how to use a software I don't own, instead of going to bed. 👀
HA! Thomannmusic has the best price if you end up picking it up, fyi.
Merci !
Hi there , my name is John , im 60 years old and playing the guitar since i was 13 . Thanks for your work . i really like the toontrack instruments , but i never really learned how they work because of not much tutorials to find on youtube that could keep my attention as the video went on ! your video instead , i ve watched it till the end . Now i will watch the second one in this serie , and i will check out your other Toontrack video's aswell , specially those about ezbass and ezkeys , and maybe ill find a video about them working all together ,a video which explains in a clear way that i can understand. I m from the french speaking part of Belgium , that also explains the errors in this writing , if there are any ! 🤔 Again i want to thank you for your work , and keep on rocking , in a free world !
@@Belgium046 JKF! Thank you so much for your contribution! It means a lot to me. AND your kind words (your English is just fine!). Do stay tuned to my channel, starting in November I will be releasing my first EZBass videos. Thank you again, so much!!
which libs are in ez3 and which in sd3?
They are labeled as such. Each program has one folder with 1000s of midi files.
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I always make a whole song with Guitar and Bass and then add the Drums. Is this rare? Or do others do it like that too?
I would think it's common. I typically start with the instrument that has inspired me to write in the first place. Sometime I'll go part by part with every instrument, or a full pass with a single instrument as you're saying.
@@ShootieSchool I always lay down 2 to 4 Guitar Tracks, Bass Tracks then the Drums
@@jerryarmitage8904 I'm similar with my guitar layering when it comes to hard rock/metal stuff.
@@ShootieSchool Just wanted to say thanks for what you do. I have learned so much from you. I'm having problems with wounds on my foot but when I get back to work I will definitely be donating again. That's a promise.
Thank you for saying and Godspeed on the healing!
We cannot insert a part between 2 parts, this is stupid or is it just me that don't know how to do it
There is no shuffle editing. So you can only drag over something to overwrite it. Or you must make room manually. A reason some use a DAW instead of EZDdrummer's Song Track for arranging.
Hi my name is Sean Jones I can't get in my ezdrummer I have to put my folder in explorer than use. Locate. I can't get in. I have a windows 7 dellowere laptop I can't get in. Please make an tutorial how to get in.
EZD3 requires a 64bit operating system. DO you have that?
You're like a Serial Killer, right? crazy...
Regardless, thanks for the How-To Video... well err so long as you aren't using them as some form of Hunting or something weird...
Where is the reference coming from?? lol
@@ShootieSchool Have you never heard your Voice played back for you?
hahah Its no reference.
@@halfblaked3030 OK, serial killer voice it is!
Hey, looks like my comment was deleted. I came back to respond with appreciation. Are we not allowed to leave links? My intention was for you to hear some of the stuff I've done with EZ Drummer and hopefully give me some feedback on how to improve. Sorry if I overstepped, I'm not someone who goes around spamming posts. I'm subscribed and look forward to learning more :)
I could have mis-clicked when I responded. I literally said something like. Thank you for saying! Frank. I will check this out later on.
It's actually hard to believe I deleted it, fyi. It's a really particular menu for me to remove a comment. Not sure what happened, so you know.
@@ShootieSchool that's ok, thx for explaining. Would love your feedback when you have time.:) Love EZ drummer, cant see how people do that tapping on a keyboard programming.
@@FrankTGuitar Post the link again, let's see if it gets flagged automatically. I can still see your old message in my notifications, but it's physically not on my channel.
@@ShootieSchool I tried. That's ok, you can cut and paste my name into Spotify if you're interested. Thanks for responding :)
Are scripting this?
Your hands don't match the screen.
I am guessing you are pre-recording and then narrating.
If so I can't imagine how long you spent doing this.
Not that it matters, just curious as I do a lot of marketing tutorials with the method I think you are using.
Thanks for all the great work.
I promote your stuff to all my music pals.
Most of my vids are 90%+ scripted. It's a pain, but it's the only way I can get an hour worth of stuff into 20 minutes. No one watches long vids.
Thank you, Geoff! Any comments and recommendations are a huge help to me. Cheers!
funny writing a song from drums...
I had EZ1 and EZ2 and they worked flawlessly. But I'm having trouble bouncing the finished track back to Cubase. It's weird but one of the crash cymbals didn't play in the 2nd half of the song and I can't figure it out. I exported it 10 times and it doesn't play. I also noticed that even when I'm playing the track back in real time inside EZ3 sometimes that particular cymbal won't play in that same section. Very weird...
Are you sure you’re using the correct cymbal midi articulation?
@@ShootieSchool All I know is when I play the track it's normal but when I bounce into DAW the whole outro of my song plays without the crash even though it shows on the Grid Editor as being there. Weird...
Join one of my groups and send some screen cabs if you want. Not sure if I can solve it but I need to see it first.
it sounds like your reading a script....
90% of my stuff is scripted. It's either I'm scripted or you watch a 90 minute video instead of 25 minutes. I choose the later. Thanks.
Your the first person in 8 years to make a comment like this
I have a serious problem with this whole philosophy of creating a drum track as the BASIS of a song: it just doesn't make for a cool sound. It should be all about the drummer playing TO the band; not the other way around.
Different people have their preferences. If you use EZD, you might be interested in this workflow instead... ruclips.net/video/8DXM7DsWFCI/видео.html
Same for me, whether with a band or on my own I always add drum parts as live takes later, with the keyboards, bass, guitars etc usually already sequenced and recorded to a click track. It means I can be more creative, adaptive to the music and focus solely on my part during the take. Starting out with a beat first usually boxes the music into being about a groove or verse/bridge/chorus type song. If for example writing Progressive Rock / Metal or a mixture of styles in one song, you need to keep everything less nailed down and defined so it can have some unexpected outcomes.
Thanks!
Evan, thank you so much for contributing! It goes a long way for my size channel. Cheers!!!
Thanks!
Buzz, you are a such a fantastic supporter of mine! Thank you for being my fifth official RUclips Thanks donation and thank you SOOO much for joining!!! Let me know if you need anything.
@@ShootieSchool You bet, brother. The content you provide is so excellent, I appreciate you!