Clipped QUEEN (Beeweaver) | Confused SWARM | Interesting!
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2021
- I ordered some queens from Beeweaver late last summer to strengthen some of my hives. Beeweaver clips one of the wings on their queens before they ship. I was at the farm and noticed one of the Beeweaver queen colonies attempting to swarm. It was an interesting experience. @brucesbees
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For the first half of the video I was yelling, "Grab her! Get a clip! Put her in a box!" 🤣
Your not the only one
I know right... same here
@@justinr9587 He did but didn't share the footage. Catching a Q in the grass has to be spooky. LOL Watch your step!
I can see where you would think that haha!
So was l!
Interesting video
Thanks!
Can always see new things and learn new things from those little critters. Hope all works for the hive
Yes the more I learn the more it seems I don’t know. Never a dull moment.
Probably more fun then trying to get em down out of the trees. Thank you for sharing Bruce!!
Easier for sure. Thanks for checking in!
Glad you caught it! I might start clipping the wings on queens after seeing this video! Thanks Bruce. Stay safe with the bad weather we're having.
Thanks for checking in. I hope it works out for you whatever you decide. You be safe too!
bee keeping is so much fun and interesting. Always something new to learn and figure out. Definitely need some common sense knowledge. Thanks for all the videos.
It rarely goes as planned. Always an adventure. Sometimes more of an adventure than I want!
*This was a first! haha Thanks Bruce! Awesome video!*
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it!
She left on a wing and a prayer. 😁
I hear ya. Or at least she tried to lol!
Super video!👋👍🔔❤🌞🌼🌻🍯🐝
Thanks! Interesting stuff. Always something going on with the bees that I don’t expect.
Super cool video, caught one of my swarm the other day
Awesome. Good luck with it!
Wow... good info.
Wish I had queens with clipped wings more than once as I have watched a strong colony swarm and leave.
Yes it can be frustrating for sure.
I'll clip their wings beginning this year. Thank you very much for posting!
I am not sure I feel confident enough to do it myself but and have had mixed thoughts about it in the past, but now I can definitely see some wisdom in it. Thanks!
@@brucesbees This might provide some insight, all the best: ruclips.net/video/igGLBXJDW4Y/видео.html
Thanks! I watched it. Good stuff!
I subscribed, here to support your channel. My bees should be here next month. Thanks for sharing
Great and thanks. Good luck with your bees!
I also start my channel a month ago. And i will love your impu as well. Thanks
Good deal. Hang in there. It is a lot of work and can be discouraging for sure but you can do it!
Seems like you are lucky in the easy mans swarm catching arena. The bees must just love your TLC. LOL
I have caught quite a few this year. Would rather they not swarm so much. My bees kind of got ahead of me. But if they are going to swarm I muggy as well catch them. I just wonder how many I have missed.
I have seen them beard up on the back of the hive & under the hive. That would be a good observation to see if she would ever go back in. I've had them draw comb under 4 way commercial bee pallets.
Yes they do all kinds of strange things. Never a dull moment.
Just goes to show you that bees do what bees do...
Yep. We can try to “manage” them but they are going to do their own thing.
Bruce, what if you were not there--the bees would not have left--correct? I'm guessing this is a good way to help control a swarm or at least know when they do and where they will be?
I think that is the case. Or they would have been near the hive in the ground. I am not really sure. It certainly was an interesting experience.
Hi bruce, I will share mi antiswarming method. I clip and mark all my queens, so when they swarm and the queen lays on the ground, once the dark comes, all the workers will instinctively return to the hive leaving the queen outside, who will die iin he night cold. At this moment you will find several developed queen cells in the frames, I only leave the bigger one, only one, and immediately put more suppers on top to give more space to the bees, the new queen once is born mates and takes control Of the hive. It is very important to previously leave only one cell, if not you may have several Virgin queen swarms.
This method works if you want to have big honey production with a limited number of hives and dont want to make splits.
Cheers from Chile.
Hey this is a great comment. I wondered what would happen if the bees were left alone. I like your strategy especially if not wanting to split. I usually will do a split though. You might be able to answer this question for me. What happens if a queen finds her way back into the hive? Will they accept her? This queen found leg of the stand and was headed in that direction before I put her in the nuc box. Had she made it back would she have survived? Just curious.
I also had a beeweaver queen try to swarm but they clustered under The landing board of the hive where we got them and put them in a new Hive box. But I had another beeWeaver queen that flew away.
Hmm. Interesting. How do you like the Beeweaver queens?
@@brucesbeeson BW queen 2, they seem very robust. Rather aggressive to humans near the hive though. My first beeWeaver queen was found out of her hive at some robbing boxes I had out. After a she fly away twice, I caught her and put her back in her hive. A few weeks later she was gone again.
Thanks for the info. Will see how it goes.
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My first guess would be that the remaining bees would kill her cause as she is not laying eggs, she is not releasing enough pheromones
Yeah my thought is that once a queen leaves with a swarm they are probably no longer considered to be part of that colony.
Well I am.not sure on what would happen if the queen returns walking to her hive, because in my experience the next day I always find the hive full Of bees with no marked queen inside, which means that the queen didnt return or if so, she has been killed, in both cases I leave only the biggest and developed cell for the next queen.
I have found that clipping and marking queens has made beekeeping much easer, since I am mainly a weekend beekeeper, in labor days I am a dentist.
For marking I use the one hand bee catcher (bought in amazon) and poscar pens, and for clipping small surgical scissors and surgical lenses, very useful for not damaging a leg or antenna, etc.
For that work the queen must be taken by hand and hold steady in your fingers. Before picking her I wash my hands and fingers to eliminate any smell Of swet, since in one ocasion the bees killed a queen which I clipped immediately after introduction, I think it was the smell Of my hand swet , cause It was a hot day.
You can start experimenting this method in your backyard hives.
Good information. Thanks!
Now go into that box, and see if there are queen cells on several different frames, and split them across multiple boxes!
Would have been a good plan. I actually cannot remember exactly what I did lol. Had so much going on that day!
Good EYE !👀 I would have never seen her in that grass. How are the beeweiver breeds temperments? Gental?
So far they have been a little feisty, but so have most of my bees. Will see how they do as the year progresses.
@@brucesbees now are those the breed that groom each other for mites or am I thinking of the ankle biters. I'm curious how they would weather up here❄
I think they are supposed to be hygienic and they have been treatment free at Beeweaver to many years.
Have you noticed how well the B Weaver bees do controlling mites? Fred Dunn is impressed with them.
They have built up very fast this spring with and amazing brood pattern. The attitude is “feisty” for sure. I am ok with that though. A lot of my bees are pretty defensive. Haven’t done any mite checks but they seem super healthy. I am thinking about establishing a remote treatment free “Texas Tough” apiary with BeeWeaver and Jodi queens to see how they do with minimal management. Just gotta somehow find the time and money to do so. Maybe i should try to do an occasional video to update how the Beeweavers are doing. People seem interested in them. If liking for super gentle bees though these are probably not your solution. Thanks!
Ive had great success with feral bees i caught with swarm traps in east texas...they sometimes can geta little hot when breaking open brood chamber... but nothing thats not manageable with a little smoke
Yes I am kind of the same way. As long as they are workable I am fine with some heat.
@@brucesbees Fred Dunn says that the newer Beeweaver's are not hot at all. Maybe they are getting better. Fred doesn't even use smoke with his hives most of the time.
Well the jury is still out with mine. Done of them seem pretty hot but it seems like all the bees have seemed that way so far this spring. The flow is starting now so I will be interested to see how the bees do when it kicks into full gear.
Clipping the Queens wing in my opinion can keep you from loosing your swarm! You may need to be there or set a empty box with some drawn comb very close and hope they move in.
That is a good point. I wonder what happens if the beekeeper is not present. Is there a chance she climbs back into the hive? Hmm...thanks Don!
Working them how aggressive are they
They have been pretty feisty but most of my bees have been like that. Will see how their attitude is when we have a nice honey flow going.
What if you just caged the queen, plopped her in a new box and lett'm find the new box?
That might have worked too but since she couldn’t fly this method worked well. Kind of the same result I think.
How longer does a queen live?
I think that varies but I have seen a lot of queens that were effective for 1 to 2 years. Have heard of some queens living longer.
that's the right way. just ensure there's eggs in the old box for emergency requeening. I clip my wings.
Yeah I think there were some queen cells if I remember correctly. What happens to these swarms if the beekeeper is not there to witness them. Will the hive accept the queen if she climbs back in?
I caught a few swarms with more then 6 Queens . Can this hive swarm still even with a clipped Queen ?can they have more than one Queen and swarm with them?
The first primary swarm is usually just the old queen. 2ndry swarms can have many as you witnessed.
Bob Binnie likes to slip a double dividing board between the two boxes after they swarm since virgin queens don't always come back.
I have had similar experiences. I am really not sure how things work with a clipped queen. This was my first time experiencing an event such as this. Will be interesting to see how things progress from here.
What is the base breed of bee are beeweavers Italians ??? I think clipping one wing is to try to prevent swarming if the queen didnt make it back to the hive I doubt the swarm would of left. If she did make it back in the hive there would be a queen fight or queen cells killed. Very interesting thank you for sharing.
I am not sure. Here is the website. They describe them here. I will tell you that they have a reputation of being a bit feisty but I can tolerate that as long as they are workable. If they are as good as advertised from a production and disease resistant perspective I can live with a little feistiness.
beeweaver.com/beeweaver-queen-pick-up-navasota/
@@brucesbees they sure do have a good resume! Impressive to say the least varroa Mite treatment free since 2001
I know. Some people really don’t like their attitude but others just love them! It’s a matter of personal preference I guess.
@@brucesbees if they can keep varroa under control I think most can put up with a sassy attitude. Thank you for the information. Happy you were there to catch the swarm you should have two hives to review there performance.
Yes I agree. Thanks!
I've never gotten a clipped Queen.
I got a few of these from Beeweaver to try. It’s my first time with them. Seems like a smart thing to do.
@@brucesbees Interesting. . I'd be curious of the Pros/Cons . .
No doubt. Me too. I am learning myself. I think this video shows one of the pros. Not sure about cons.
Weaver queens good in your estimation/ are they mean?
So far I haven’t had them long enough to say for sure. Some of them will be back from California soon. The ones I have here locally seem ok so far. A little testy but all my bees have been like that. Now we are entering a flow and finally the bees seem to be calming down. So the jury’s still out. So far they seem productive and tough. Will take some time before I have a good opinion about attitude.
How do you clip the wing? Do you just use scissors, or a sword like John Belushi’s Samurai Sandwich guy? “Today we split this hive, HYAA!!” 😂🤣🐝🐝🐝
I ordered these mis queen from Beeweaver but another viewer shared this video with me that shows the technique. It is really good: ruclips.net/video/igGLBXJDW4Y/видео.html
I've Always heard two different things..one they'd fly off and come back.And 2 they'd end up swarming without her,I've never dealt with it and I don't know the answer.My Question is are the Beeweavers as nasty as everyone says or do they just have their moments? I've watched their videos and they looked kinda rough, but they were ripping through hives pretty fast trying to get alot done.They look like performers to me which is sometimes nice to have even if it's a trade off for gentleness.
My brief experience is that som of them seem pretty nasty and some not too bad, just defensive. But most of my bees have been crazy this spring. Will see how things go as g the flow spring progresses. We are just starting our flow now. Gotta get my boxes stacked!
@@brucesbees looks like it's going to a bumper crop season there to me if you get enough rain to keep it going!
I hope so. I need to get boxes on the hives. Spent this last weekend making splits (25) and the bees are coming back from Cali now. Somewhere in there I need to get my honey supers on the hives. Whew!
@@brucesbees people have no idea how much work and time bees are...it's an absolute ton of both and the best you can hope for is to keep up lol
Absolutely. It’s about to kill me trying to work full-time, grow the bees and grow the channel. Always trying to improve. Sometimes that question for improvement actually gets me into some interesting situations. I love it though!
I think clipping a wing is a great idea. I do it for our chickens🍺🍺
Yep it seemed to work well here. I wonder what would have happened had I not been there though. Would she have climbed back up into the hive? She was headed that way. If she made it back up there I wonder if they would have accepted her back. So many questions🤔🤷♂️
@@brucesbees yes it’s definitely mixed thoughts on the possible outcomes. With no clipped wing you might not have ever seen her again 🤔
Probably the case.
Hey Bruce I think the people who clip the wings on the queen takes a little bit too far he's supposed to be save the bees not crippled the bees we got to get those different genetics out there
I guess there are differing opinions on that and I can see both sides. If we can keep these bees in our apiary then they will produce a lot of drones and keep the genetics around. The queen is definitely crippled when it come to flying but she has been laying an unbelievable brood pattern in the colony. The only question I have is attitude. They seem to be pretty feisty, which is a trait that a lot of people talk about with the Beeweaver queens. Many people love them though and I have heard that some of the queens can produce hives that are over the top but most are defensive but workable. If they can control pests I am ok with defensive. Most of my bees are already like that.
I am eager to see how they do and if she gets her new hive established like I hope she will.
Bruce God bless you and yours
Thanks and same to you!
Do you like there queens.are they more VHS ? 😊
I am not sure. Most of their Queens’s seemed like pretty much other queens but one or two of them became very defensive and I replaced them. I’m sure they probably are more resistant to disease and mites etc but I did not do any Pary ulnar type of testing etc.
Thanks Bruce it was Really nice to meet ya at the Bee Expo 🐝
As a beekeeper you make no sense
Ok lol. It is true I am all over the place and trying a lot of different things. I think a lot of beekeepers do similar things, but just don’t share. I’m always learning. Definitely have a long ways to go but have figured a lot of things out too. Would be tough to grow to my numbers if I was completely incompetent. Remember this is more of a vlog of me sharing my experience. It is not a “how to” channel. There are plenty of those out there if that is what you are looking for. I actually learn a lot from other channels. Glad we have some variety!