I find it bizarre how in Out Of The Shadows they never fight The Shredder and only fight Bebop and Rocksteady once, what's worse is Shredder spends almost the entire film without his mask on, then when he does put it on, he immediately gets frozen in ice
Well I think Eric Sacks being the shredder could have worked. They could have gone the route of the Mandarin from Iron Man 3 have someone else use the mantle only to later on reveal the true shredder in a future movie. That would also explain the shredder armor in the first movie he's not that skilled combat wise like the real shredder so he's armor have to compensate for that with the multiple blades, the size, the appearance etc.
@@BlackPrince24 lol sounds like that makes him the Diet Version which would be fitting in a sense. A head sized alien is better in a mech/armored suit than him. Honestly makes the 2003 Shredder badass by comparison with that and makes the one in the next one very much better. If it was executed like that of course.
I like how Xavier says: Stop making the turtles attracted to April" but at least calls out every version that did this which is oddly almost all of them even the parody versions
I recommend checking out some art done by Richard Chen. He’s been concepting a really awesome modern version of the turtles with a great art style. There’s some cool stuff like having the turtles run a night time sanitation crew, so they can go into office buildings late at night to work.
I think it might be better to take these cool concepts people have and use them for one of the forgotten 90s derivatives. Like, imagine how much more buzz and acceptance there would have been for Rise Of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles if it had been the same thing except Rise Of The Street Sharks? Heck, you could make an MCU-esque quipy movie trilogy from Samurai Pizza Cats. I guess my point is that, maybe TMNT as a franchise should be put to rest a little, but if people really want to work on it and reboot it, why not direct that time, money, and energy on one of the cheaper derivatives? Would you rather be the latest guy to reboot TMNT, or the guy who made Street Sharks a cultural phenomenon and created the definitive version of those characters?
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 we haven't gotten a tmnt movie in 6 years and the recent ones could've been a lot better so I think honestly they don't need to be put to rest but need the franchise to get some heat again which could happen this year with the new movie and the AAA video game
I think tonally this Casey could have worked. Cause Stephen pulling a parody of the stuff he did on Arrow at the time would be very much like his 80s personality. The right amount of actual chaotic unpredictability that is needed. Which Stephen Amell can do.
The thing is Stephen has a lot of range. Season 1 Arrow is a totally different character from Season 5 Arrow, we really see his humanity and see him lighten up as a person thanks to the positive influences in his life. Seeing him as basically 80s Casey would be rad but I could totally see him pulling off a proper redemption arc as a less brutal antihero and a more heroic vigilante.
...that...actually would have saved it because, what they could have done is have it so that his Saki body was destroyed but by the end of the movie he repairs it and upgrades it into a shredder suit...buuut I can see how it'd also be problematic like, how it's taking away a role from an Asian actor. Like, as an example I'm STILL shocked we've never gotten a Live-Action TMNT Movie with Cary Hiroyuki-Tagawa...
I actually like the iron shredder. He has a dope design and the way his blades comes back to him like magnets is pretty freaking cool. He's one of the best parts about the 1st live action TMNT movie
The thing I like the most as a kid was the Shredder vs Splinter fight, but the second one is pretty fun. Rocksteady & Bebop was fantastic. Also poor Hawk, he was good in these movies
@@Jakepearl13 yes, But they’re not supposed to be 7 foot tall. They’re anamorphic mutant turtles so they should have more human features. But I agree with you, they don’t look that bad. Also, they have a hulk like build but I like it more when they’re skinnier but that’s just my opinion.
I honestly thought the bay turtles to be not too bad, especially out of the shadows with how much it felt a big live action version of the 80’s cartoon.
Thank you! I'm not the only one who thinks it's weird how Mikey was flirting with his 'mom' in this movie 😂 you made me cry and laugh at the same time!
I've waited so long for this rebirth of tmnt love, THEYRE GETTING SO MUCH AGAIN, ITS SO EXCITING, RUclips VIDEOS, MOVIES (sadly rise ending but a amazing movie to follow it) GAMES, EVERYTHING
I wondered if the original version of the 2014 film before the reshoots was going to have reincarnation story from the comics. Eric Sacks was a reincarnation of an Feudal Japanese Shredder while having his grudge against his reborn enemies, thus explaining their fight banter. Also, when Splinter pick up the book of how to do martial arts, he triggered memories of his past life and teach the turtles all the skills from Feudal Japan but with the reshoots throwing the reincarnation story out of the window, they simply learn from a book. Another thing is I believe all of Baxter's scenes went straight to Sacks in the reshoots. Baxter was there but very briefly. April does have a sort of rivalry with Baxter in the other versions, so it makes sense them fighting each other in the shootout scene instead of Sacks.
For years before I actually got into TMNT I really thought the turtles were always supposed to be really big and tall and once I became a fan I couldn't figure out why I thought that. I can now conclude it must be due to these movies, but I've never seen them and only vaguely knew of their existence before, so that just raises further questions, actually
Maybe your first exposure to the turtles was the marketing for these movies? Because I remember that even in the ads, you can see that this version of the turtles was MUCH larger than ordinary people are. And if the marketing was the only exposure you really got to them for a long time, it makes sense that this version would directly contribute to your preconception of the turtles and their size.
Imagine if they cast Keanu Reeves as Casey Jones? We could have had some really cool, John Wick style action set pieces. Creatively utilising sports equipment and bits of trash he finds on the street etc
If I had a nickel for every time Micheal bay made an overly designed tons of cgi and explosions reboot of an classic 80s toy/show/comic, I’d have 2 nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice
Fun fact: Someone who saw the large cheese pizza scene from the first Bay movie actually made a large cheese pizza in real life. I swear, I’m not making this up.
Iirc, one reason for the Shredder's initial casting was because of fears that the character in the source material felt too much like a "yellow peril" stereotype (the same reason was made for having the Mandarin be a white guy in Iron Man 3).
Makes more sense for Mandarin because Japanese culture is heavily tied to Ninja Turtles to begin with and Japan isn't a country the use fearmongers about in modern times. But even then you can play around a lot with the Mandarin.
Personally, I was certain it was gonna be revealed that Leo didn't want to be human, and was terrified his brothers would leap on the chance to use the ooze and leave him behind to live normal lives. Only to learn *something* about leadership and sacrifice, and suggest they use the mutagen in the final scene… (and then they realize they fight better as turtles *handwaves*) If you’re gonna make Leo such an jerk, at least have a good reason for it.
I feel like the writer behind this film were hoping to do the slow burn effect with Casey. Where they start the character off in an unfamiliar position. Then over the course of several movies, he would start to lose his sense of justice & become the bad ass vigilante we all know him as. Except their were no more movies after this one, so it’s just shit by default now.
I honestly was with you Xavier til you said Stephen couldn't play Casey. Oh he did awful for sure and is poorly written but later Arrowverse crossovers really show he has potential for himbo energy with how he contrasts with more positive heroes. He has a lot of range that directors don't like to utilize or don't know HOW to. Early Arrow has him showing off a more charming easygoing side while undercover and latter seasons show how much heart he can have he's the most compelling performance for a character I'm split on I've ever seen! Otherwise yeah, p spot on man great vid as usual!
The 2003 ninja turtles is the real ninja Turtles to me that being the first 5 seasons fast foward and back to the sewers kinda suck but those first 5 seasons capture the heart of the turtles more than these 2 movies I like Stephen amell as arrow but he’s not Casey jones
IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE WATCHING YOU-THEY KNOW WHAT YOU DO IT'S ALL A DOME IT'S ALL A LIE REALITY IS AN ILLUSION THE UNIVERSE IS A HOLLOGRAM TEAR DOWN YOUR WALLS THERE-S PEOPLE WITH CAMERAS LIVING IN THEM TAPE IT UP TAPE IT UP!!!!
@@ywoyiakuelwywpfnd You know, I don't know about that because these kinds of coincidences are mathematically likely to happen every once and a while. He also just reviewed the older TMNT films not too long ago so it's not as if this is that crazy of a coincidence.
@@ywoyiakuelwywpfnd The trouble is you're making an unfalsifiable claim, people who believe this crap never have any evidence for it, none of you can ever break out of this supposed Matrix we all live in. I was already watching TMNT and Transformers media recently, I just watched the TMNT 1990 movie review by RedLetterMedia and had already seen the TMNT 1990 reviews by GodzillaMendoza. This is why I even decided to watch the new film in the first place. Occam's razor my friend.
@Tribrachidiumheraldicum um i was just joking, I don't actually believe that lol. Wait am I being whooshed? Is it you that's being Whooshed?? Pls eggs plain my brain hurts
the problem with bad/mediocre live action adaptations is that they are made with so much money and investment that studios will push that version over all other. The shit version be the only version for a while until they've made their money back and a lot more. With animated and comic versions you can just reboot after 2 seasons or 6 issues or even have multiple comics at the same time and no one will have a problem.
TMNT 2014 almost has the same villain twist as Iron Man 3 but worse Where we follow this one guy and he's hyped up as this big threat but then he turns out to be a random henchman distracting the heroes while the REAL villain works behind the scenes on the actual plan for world domination The Rise of Skywalker retconned Snoke's backstory to fit this trope too...
Nothing compares to the classics for me... as a kid who grew up with the turtles since day one and continues that love with his kiddos. I can say as a fan I enjoyed the Bay Turtle films for sure. The crisp visuals and spot on CGI... smooth action and fights too... there's a place for them for sure. Never above the originals though.
I didn't realize they redubbed Leo w/ Knoxville. I thought he was Knoxville from the start. But just didn't use him for motion capture. Learn something knew every day!
The bizarre creep factor Michael Bay (talking through Mikey) has for Megan Fox in this and Transformers proves how right she was all along. It weirded me out so much. April from the 2003 show is my favorite version, being a scientist and all. Megan Fox deserved much better than what life delt her. The Shredder being whitewashed could have been sorry based. Like Sachs being a huge weeb because he grew up in Japan being raised by Saki. He wanted to be a cool samurai like Saki. I could see that being logical. Oroku Saki being insulted by is ward would make sense for the sequel to avenge his name. The turtles were more or less what you'd expect. Mikey always was a creep around April anyway "Can we keep her?!" It also felt wrong and out of place. Raph is always the best turtle even though Donnie is my fav. Leo is just Leo, kinda boring for me. I will always take the 87 cartoon origin for Splinter knowing ninjutsu as well as the turtles. As well as having beef with Shredder. Splinter was Hamato Yoshi and a rival to Saki works so well. The turtles being humanoid thanks to the ooze because Yoshi touched them after getting slimed is the definitive origin for me. Yoshi have a passion for Renaissance art was just the icing on the cake for me. Well, that's my rant on these movies
13:56 I think the 2003 series really nailed making the turtles smaller in height and making Casey basically tower over them and also having April be taller as well…..I know the 87 cartoon also does that but it just feels so much better in the 03 cartoon though unfortunately any those turtles don’t look like teens but at least they got the height thing right :/
the one thing you can say about these movies is the turtles themselves were perfectly cast (besides johnny knoxville lol) but i could see the second movies cast being reused for an animated show n it'd work completely, it's pretty much everything besides them in these movies that don't work tho
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I feel like I’m in this weird crowd where I actually didn’t mind the first movie but I absolutely hate the second movie. Both movies are not cinematic masterpieces, but I felt the first one had an interesting style to it and tried to do something different while the second one, to me, felt more like fan service than a continuation. Plus I don’t like this Casey at all (Same with OOTS Leo.)
They tossed out the entire pathos of their origin and replace it with something not as deep. Eliminating Hamato Yoshi from the source of ninja two for the turtles and splinter was a mistake. Then there are the designs of the turtles and selves. Gargantuan anthropomorphic powerhouses instead of the stealthy small ninjas everybody knows. Sorry but this was a complete cluster fuck of what fans love. And don't get me started on The Sheedder.
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I find it bizarre how in Out Of The Shadows they never fight The Shredder and only fight Bebop and Rocksteady once, what's worse is Shredder spends almost the entire film without his mask on, then when he does put it on, he immediately gets frozen in ice
Cuz they realized they made the turtles too damn big and strong af to the point where shredder would have got fucked up🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Yeah they did Shredder so friggin dirty in that movie. And not having the turtles face him AND Krang at the same time was a missed opportunity.
Exactly I was like you have shredder and they don’t even fight him
Krang was the main villain, so it makes sense to make the new big bad more powerful.
Bebop and Rocksteady were fan service but still serve a purpose.
@@BlackPrince24 usually krang is second fiddle to shredder but I get it but they also don’t have to shit on the previous villain to hype up the next
I still think it’s so funny that Johnny Knoxville did the voice of Leonardo, and even funnier that it fits surprisingly well
Amazing video, what’s worse is that Casey from Out of the Shadows didn’t have long hair. Casey with no long hair is like the turtles with no pizza.
i think thats the least of the movie's design issues tbh
I also think the issue with Casey from the Out of the shadows movie is that he has a lot of mischaracterization.
Even the rise and 2012 one had somewhat long hair
Well I think Eric Sacks being the shredder could have worked. They could have gone the route of the Mandarin from Iron Man 3 have someone else use the mantle only to later on reveal the true shredder in a future movie. That would also explain the shredder armor in the first movie he's not that skilled combat wise like the real shredder so he's armor have to compensate for that with the multiple blades, the size, the appearance etc.
Basically TMNT 2003 with Shredder
@@BlackPrince24 😂😂😂i was also thinking that
Lmao bruh you’re aware that Ironman is hated even by the actors lol what a loser
@@BlackPrince24 lol sounds like that makes him the Diet Version which would be fitting in a sense. A head sized alien is better in a mech/armored suit than him. Honestly makes the 2003 Shredder badass by comparison with that and makes the one in the next one very much better. If it was executed like that of course.
Hell even having Karai don the armor after he dies would've worked
That one reaction from the kid in the Oprah audience never fails to make me laugh.
Same here
What u talking about I wanna see
@@jogonyachickennugget4911 I think he’s talking about 7:04
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Bro saw the horrors of the universe
I like how Xavier says: Stop making the turtles attracted to April" but at least calls out every version that did this which is oddly almost all of them even the parody versions
its only the 2012 version and bayverse that did this. basically the nick produced versions except rise
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@@alimations5226 huh💀
@@alimations5226 Be the bearer of bad news.
I recommend checking out some art done by Richard Chen. He’s been concepting a really awesome modern version of the turtles with a great art style. There’s some cool stuff like having the turtles run a night time sanitation crew, so they can go into office buildings late at night to work.
I think it might be better to take these cool concepts people have and use them for one of the forgotten 90s derivatives.
Like, imagine how much more buzz and acceptance there would have been for Rise Of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles if it had been the same thing except Rise Of The Street Sharks?
Heck, you could make an MCU-esque quipy movie trilogy from Samurai Pizza Cats.
I guess my point is that, maybe TMNT as a franchise should be put to rest a little, but if people really want to work on it and reboot it, why not direct that time, money, and energy on one of the cheaper derivatives? Would you rather be the latest guy to reboot TMNT, or the guy who made Street Sharks a cultural phenomenon and created the definitive version of those characters?
I hope they reboot tmnt again and it’s actually good
I will definitely check it out
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 we haven't gotten a tmnt movie in 6 years and the recent ones could've been a lot better so I think honestly they don't need to be put to rest but need the franchise to get some heat again which could happen this year with the new movie and the AAA video game
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Why not both?
I used to think the blood infusion is what made them bulletproof only for a short time
I think tonally this Casey could have worked. Cause Stephen pulling a parody of the stuff he did on Arrow at the time would be very much like his 80s personality. The right amount of actual chaotic unpredictability that is needed. Which Stephen Amell can do.
The thing is Stephen has a lot of range. Season 1 Arrow is a totally different character from Season 5 Arrow, we really see his humanity and see him lighten up as a person thanks to the positive influences in his life. Seeing him as basically 80s Casey would be rad but I could totally see him pulling off a proper redemption arc as a less brutal antihero and a more heroic vigilante.
Shout out to you for continuing to make TMNT content even if it doesn't get as much views, I love these videos!
Thinking about it now, I think Eric Sacks could work if they brought in Ch’rell from the 2003 series and have Eric Sacks be a Persona of Ch’rell.
...that...actually would have saved it because, what they could have done is have it so that his Saki body was destroyed but by the end of the movie he repairs it and upgrades it into a shredder suit...buuut I can see how it'd also be problematic like, how it's taking away a role from an Asian actor. Like, as an example I'm STILL shocked we've never gotten a Live-Action TMNT Movie with Cary Hiroyuki-Tagawa...
@@TECH097 He'd be a great Splinter voice
I actually like the iron shredder. He has a dope design and the way his blades comes back to him like magnets is pretty freaking cool. He's one of the best parts about the 1st live action TMNT movie
Agreed
Disagreed. Makes shredder much less cool
Remember when they announced it and said the Turtles would be aliens? Or was that a fever dream I had?
There was such an enormous amount of backlash that they delayed the movie and changed it
@@yurifairy2969 Yes that's it! Now I remember!
When I was a kid and watched this for the first time I remember thinking "they're finally making them look like actual mutants"
Casey saying he's going to be a detective gives off mark whalberg I'm an inventor vibes
The thing I like the most as a kid was the Shredder vs Splinter fight, but the second one is pretty fun. Rocksteady & Bebop was fantastic. Also poor Hawk, he was good in these movies
Bay Bebop and Rocksteady are easily the worst version of them. It makes 87 bafoons more tolerable, though they're still boring wooden planks
@@ashesGeek Rocksteady and Bebop are like meatheads in everything maybe besides the comics
@@trevorghalt1881 they've meatheads in idw comics too, they're just the strongest ones. They were both quite smart and dangerous only in 2012 series
@@ashesGeekidw ones too they killed donnie
7:01 That kid’s been traumatized for the rest of his life😂
Omg Steve-O as Mikey and Johnny Knoxville as Leo is something that makes so much sense but shouldn't
I love seeing more TMNT stuff, sucks it doesn't get the same views other comic stuff gets
I’m gonna be honest, I actually really like the designs. I totally understand why people don’t like them though.
I like the designs too and after hearing what people say about the designs I understand why people don't like them
I didnt mind them after a while
It’s not THAT bad,plus they’re supposed to be mutants anyway
@@Jakepearl13 yes, But they’re not supposed to be 7 foot tall. They’re anamorphic mutant turtles so they should have more human features. But I agree with you, they don’t look that bad. Also, they have a hulk like build but I like it more when they’re skinnier but that’s just my opinion.
I honestly thought the bay turtles to be not too bad, especially out of the shadows with how much it felt a big live action version of the 80’s cartoon.
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yea bc unlike Transformers, at least the turtles still feel like themselves, even if they look like roid monsters
@@dajokahbaby1506 they even had the old theme song in out of the shadows
@@dajokahbaby1506 honestly I love the transformers movies
Thank you! I'm not the only one who thinks it's weird how Mikey was flirting with his 'mom' in this movie 😂 you made me cry and laugh at the same time!
If the Turtles could survive: their music, Fast Forward, Back to the Sewers, the 3rd movie, that Oprah interview, & Next Mutation they'll be fine
There’s some concept art I found online that looks SOOO much better
Generally I always liked the banter between the brothers, these guys had some funny moments.
Best part about Rise of the TMNT was April was more of a sister than a love interest
I've waited so long for this rebirth of tmnt love, THEYRE GETTING SO MUCH AGAIN, ITS SO EXCITING, RUclips VIDEOS, MOVIES (sadly rise ending but a amazing movie to follow it) GAMES, EVERYTHING
I wondered if the original version of the 2014 film before the reshoots was going to have reincarnation story from the comics. Eric Sacks was a reincarnation of an Feudal Japanese Shredder while having his grudge against his reborn enemies, thus explaining their fight banter.
Also, when Splinter pick up the book of how to do martial arts, he triggered memories of his past life and teach the turtles all the skills from Feudal Japan but with the reshoots throwing the reincarnation story out of the window, they simply learn from a book.
Another thing is I believe all of Baxter's scenes went straight to Sacks in the reshoots. Baxter was there but very briefly. April does have a sort of rivalry with Baxter in the other versions, so it makes sense them fighting each other in the shootout scene instead of Sacks.
For years before I actually got into TMNT I really thought the turtles were always supposed to be really big and tall and once I became a fan I couldn't figure out why I thought that. I can now conclude it must be due to these movies, but I've never seen them and only vaguely knew of their existence before, so that just raises further questions, actually
Maybe your first exposure to the turtles was the marketing for these movies? Because I remember that even in the ads, you can see that this version of the turtles was MUCH larger than ordinary people are. And if the marketing was the only exposure you really got to them for a long time, it makes sense that this version would directly contribute to your preconception of the turtles and their size.
3:55 I was looking at the poster for like 3 minutes and then it hit me OMG HOW???? 😂
i grew up with these tmnt movies n even though ik the flaws now, they will always have a special place in my heart
Same
Late 90's to early 2000's kids amirite? 😎
Same, I out of the 2 I really enjoyed out of the shadows more
Imagine if they cast Keanu Reeves as Casey Jones?
We could have had some really cool, John Wick style action set pieces. Creatively utilising sports equipment and bits of trash he finds on the street etc
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Bro what
Wholesome 100
If I had a nickel for every time Micheal bay made an overly designed tons of cgi and explosions reboot of an classic 80s toy/show/comic, I’d have 2 nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice
Bebop and Rocksteady are undeniably the best part of this entire series, you can't change my mind whatsoever
Worst thing these movies did was have Judith Hoag in the sequel, but in a deleted scene.
Fun fact: Someone who saw the large cheese pizza scene from the first Bay movie actually made a large cheese pizza in real life. I swear, I’m not making this up.
Iirc, one reason for the Shredder's initial casting was because of fears that the character in the source material felt too much like a "yellow peril" stereotype (the same reason was made for having the Mandarin be a white guy in Iron Man 3).
Makes more sense for Mandarin because Japanese culture is heavily tied to Ninja Turtles to begin with and Japan isn't a country the use fearmongers about in modern times. But even then you can play around a lot with the Mandarin.
I really wish we got another movie in this franchise to conclude the story, the second movie proved they had what it takes!
Personally, I was certain it was gonna be revealed that Leo didn't want to be human, and was terrified his brothers would leap on the chance to use the ooze and leave him behind to live normal lives. Only to learn *something* about leadership and sacrifice, and suggest they use the mutagen in the final scene… (and then they realize they fight better as turtles *handwaves*)
If you’re gonna make Leo such an jerk, at least have a good reason for it.
I feel like the writer behind this film were hoping to do the slow burn effect with Casey. Where they start the character off in an unfamiliar position. Then over the course of several movies, he would start to lose his sense of justice & become the bad ass vigilante we all know him as. Except their were no more movies after this one, so it’s just shit by default now.
Woah. Donkey Kong, from the hit videogame series Donkey Kong Country, is doing a TMNT movie?
Thank you for using that Oprah clip
At least the song "Shellshocked" banged
I’m so glad you mentioned the 9/11 poster. Truly one of the greatest gaffs of all time.
One of my compliments for the movie is that this and the amazing spider-man
Have the same final battle
It's always a great day when Xavier uploads
Great video! It sounds like talking to you about TMNT for hours would be a blast!
7:00 bro the cut to that kids face, i actually cant fucking breath its hard to type💀💀💀💀
I remember watching both of these, they are effectively my childhood
This but with Transformers
I love how he's so energetic for the sponsor and then is just back to normal for the rest of the video.
As a kid I loved Raph Vs Shredder in the first movie
team dynamic, fight scenes & parkour are the only things that work.
The most unrealistic part of this movie is that they live in New York and they get fucking Pizza Hut
6:49 I was fulling expecting you to include a clip from "Ten inch mutant ninja turtles". 💀
I honestly was with you Xavier til you said Stephen couldn't play Casey. Oh he did awful for sure and is poorly written but later Arrowverse crossovers really show he has potential for himbo energy with how he contrasts with more positive heroes.
He has a lot of range that directors don't like to utilize or don't know HOW to. Early Arrow has him showing off a more charming easygoing side while undercover and latter seasons show how much heart he can have he's the most compelling performance for a character I'm split on I've ever seen!
Otherwise yeah, p spot on man great vid as usual!
Bro seeing those ROTTMNT movie clips at the end broke my heart
Every time I see this turtle I think of that German pickle commercial
idk that DIPS joke actually got me lol
People forget shredder put Batman on his ass . Bloody and broken .
I agree w/ Mikey looking the most....idk...off. @ least compared to the other Turtles
TMNT was my uncles stuff as a kid and he was really disappointed in these live action adaptations. I love the cartoon myself!
The 2003 ninja turtles is the real ninja Turtles to me that being the first 5 seasons fast foward and back to the sewers kinda suck but those first 5 seasons capture the heart of the turtles more than these 2 movies I like Stephen amell as arrow but he’s not Casey jones
There's just something funny about you sounding angry with how your voice was ever so slightly changed, but good video as always man
I've always loved these movies, they came out when I was 9 and 11, it was perfect timing for me
As a humongous tmnt fan I loved those movies
Whoooah! I thought YOU were Shredder!
...Yeah, I thought I was, too.
Honestly I rewatched both the past two days and they aren't all that bad. Out of the shadows is an awesome movie
Literally in the middle of watching the second movie for the first time, what a coincidence.
IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE WATCHING YOU-THEY KNOW WHAT YOU DO IT'S ALL A DOME IT'S ALL A LIE REALITY IS AN ILLUSION THE UNIVERSE IS A HOLLOGRAM TEAR DOWN YOUR WALLS THERE-S PEOPLE WITH CAMERAS LIVING IN THEM TAPE IT UP TAPE IT UP!!!!
@@ywoyiakuelwywpfnd You know, I don't know about that because these kinds of coincidences are mathematically likely to happen every once and a while. He also just reviewed the older TMNT films not too long ago so it's not as if this is that crazy of a coincidence.
@@Tribrachidiumheraldicum That's what they want you to think
@@ywoyiakuelwywpfnd The trouble is you're making an unfalsifiable claim, people who believe this crap never have any evidence for it, none of you can ever break out of this supposed Matrix we all live in. I was already watching TMNT and Transformers media recently, I just watched the TMNT 1990 movie review by RedLetterMedia and had already seen the TMNT 1990 reviews by GodzillaMendoza. This is why I even decided to watch the new film in the first place. Occam's razor my friend.
@Tribrachidiumheraldicum um i was just joking, I don't actually believe that lol. Wait am I being whooshed? Is it you that's being Whooshed?? Pls eggs plain my brain hurts
the problem with bad/mediocre live action adaptations is that they are made with so much money and investment that studios will push that version over all other. The shit version be the only version for a while until they've made their money back and a lot more. With animated and comic versions you can just reboot after 2 seasons or 6 issues or even have multiple comics at the same time and no one will have a problem.
I think splinter actually being Hamatoyoshi makes the most sense for the character
Ehhh I much prefer the pet rat story its accurate to the source material.
I really liked them. Never once understood the hate.
the elevator scene saved the first movie
TMNT 2014 almost has the same villain twist as Iron Man 3 but worse
Where we follow this one guy and he's hyped up as this big threat but then he turns out to be a random henchman distracting the heroes while the REAL villain works behind the scenes on the actual plan for world domination
The Rise of Skywalker retconned Snoke's backstory to fit this trope too...
Nothing compares to the classics for me... as a kid who grew up with the turtles since day one and continues that love with his kiddos. I can say as a fan I enjoyed the Bay Turtle films for sure. The crisp visuals and spot on CGI... smooth action and fights too... there's a place for them for sure. Never above the originals though.
I feel like Xavier is gonna do a video on The Transformers movies.
I just hope he does the animated movie
Can't believe Xavier fought through terminal ligma to get this video done. I salute you, sir!
I didn't realize they redubbed Leo w/ Knoxville. I thought he was Knoxville from the start. But just didn't use him for motion capture.
Learn something knew every day!
The bizarre creep factor Michael Bay (talking through Mikey) has for Megan Fox in this and Transformers proves how right she was all along. It weirded me out so much. April from the 2003 show is my favorite version, being a scientist and all.
Megan Fox deserved much better than what life delt her.
The Shredder being whitewashed could have been sorry based. Like Sachs being a huge weeb because he grew up in Japan being raised by Saki. He wanted to be a cool samurai like Saki. I could see that being logical. Oroku Saki being insulted by is ward would make sense for the sequel to avenge his name.
The turtles were more or less what you'd expect. Mikey always was a creep around April anyway "Can we keep her?!" It also felt wrong and out of place. Raph is always the best turtle even though Donnie is my fav. Leo is just Leo, kinda boring for me.
I will always take the 87 cartoon origin for Splinter knowing ninjutsu as well as the turtles. As well as having beef with Shredder.
Splinter was Hamato Yoshi and a rival to Saki works so well. The turtles being humanoid thanks to the ooze because Yoshi touched them after getting slimed is the definitive origin for me. Yoshi have a passion for Renaissance art was just the icing on the cake for me.
Well, that's my rant on these movies
26:49 dude was beatboxing like Thanos
Honey, wake up. There's a new GodzillaMendoza video
13:56 I think the 2003 series really nailed making the turtles smaller in height and making Casey basically tower over them and also having April be taller as well…..I know the 87 cartoon also does that but it just feels so much better in the 03 cartoon though unfortunately any those turtles don’t look like teens but at least they got the height thing right :/
I would love to see you talk about ninja turtles the next mutation. Its the ninja turtles I grew up with and I never hear people talk about it
Check out Phelous here on youtube. He reviewed every single episode of that series.
W cold ones clip insert max and chad are LEGENDS
the one thing you can say about these movies is the turtles themselves were perfectly cast (besides johnny knoxville lol) but i could see the second movies cast being reused for an animated show n it'd work completely, it's pretty much everything besides them in these movies that don't work tho
I honestly and ironically but also unironically like these movies. Mostly because of nostalgia
Anymore new gutter space videos in the future there's alot to talk about a new Hellboy game, superman reboot, Hugh Jackmans Wolverine in Deadpool 3 us rumors of past fox X-men actors coming back in Secret Wars
This version of Shredder reminds me of the 2003 Shredder I thought that's what they were going for
I Think it is OK for Donnie to be wearing glasses.
I feel like I’m in this weird crowd where I actually didn’t mind the first movie but I absolutely hate the second movie. Both movies are not cinematic masterpieces, but I felt the first one had an interesting style to it and tried to do something different while the second one, to me, felt more like fan service than a continuation. Plus I don’t like this Casey at all (Same with OOTS Leo.)
at least no studio to my knowledge has given the turtles human ears either that they don't care or know that turtle ears don't stick out
The poster for the 2014 movie actually got controversial so with them falling from an explosion from a tower and yeah you get it
the sequel was a step in the right direction. I think they could've nailed it with the 3rd one and a few years to develop.
Agreed
As long as they keep Megan Fox as April, they would never nail it. She is the problem. 😂
Answer: "NO!". Next question, please.
Why don’t they just adapt the original animated series in 2003
Like how a movie adapts a book faithfully
19:37 those are funny little characters, I like that
Holy shit, I never put together the "Oroku Saki/Erik Sacks" connection.
"And now a word from our sponsors"
Me: "I can wait"
"Raid Shad-"
Me: "skip! skip! skip!"
They tossed out the entire pathos of their origin and replace it with something not as deep. Eliminating Hamato Yoshi from the source of ninja two for the turtles and splinter was a mistake. Then there are the designs of the turtles and selves. Gargantuan anthropomorphic powerhouses instead of the stealthy small ninjas everybody knows. Sorry but this was a complete cluster fuck of what fans love. And don't get me started on The Sheedder.
The elevator scene is probably the best pet of the first movie