When TMNT Added a Girl Turtle In the 90s

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Комментарии • 688

  • @brianedwardson8551
    @brianedwardson8551 7 месяцев назад +240

    The reason why it's dubbed is because on set the animatronics were to loud so they couldn't use the actual sounds from set.

    • @caramelcandys
      @caramelcandys 6 месяцев назад +16

      That probably explains the excessive sound effects

    • @Jaydogg222
      @Jaydogg222 3 месяца назад +2

      Too

  • @thelastknight6519
    @thelastknight6519 8 месяцев назад +741

    "we could make a fortune renting Venus out"
    excuse me WHAT!!!

    • @joey_youtube
      @joey_youtube 7 месяцев назад +137

      You never put your sister out for some cash on the side? Must not be a serious hustler.

    • @chaddfrancis2179
      @chaddfrancis2179 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@joey_youtubei could do that for extra cash?Nice.

    • @BagsMcBaggerSon0
      @BagsMcBaggerSon0 7 месяцев назад

      @@joey_youtube get out

    • @christopherjones8448
      @christopherjones8448 7 месяцев назад +51

      @@joey_youtube They aren't siblings, Leo wanted that clear early so people wouldn't question him hitting on her constantly

    • @abrasiveangel
      @abrasiveangel 7 месяцев назад +29

      OnlyReptiles?

  • @uknownada
    @uknownada 7 месяцев назад +24

    I discovered Venus in a coloring book, that for some reason actually had a dramatic narrative that depicted her backstory with realistic drawings. Had no idea the show existed until WAYY later, and I was amazed to find out she was in a show.

    • @jazzratoon
      @jazzratoon 7 месяцев назад +8

      Jeez, the fact a colouring book can a construct a better narrative for Venus than the show, is even sadder.

  • @tylerbertram7065
    @tylerbertram7065 8 месяцев назад +81

    This is basically the Dragon Ball Evolution of Ninja Turtles the live action adaptation that everybody including the creators wants to forget about.

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 8 месяцев назад +1

      Pretty much haha, that's why we like to pretend that TMNT is the lowest point of the franchise, it's easier to explain

    • @juanrisa945
      @juanrisa945 7 месяцев назад +1

      Not both of them. Kevin actually liked Venus and even brought her to the IDW comics. Plus, the showrunners for Rise of the TMNT MAY have planned to incorporate her (they had plans to give the Turtles two sisters but the series was cut short so they had to drop the plan. They never said if the sisters were new characters or versions of Venus and/or Jennika, througth).

    • @tylerbertram7065
      @tylerbertram7065 7 месяцев назад

      @juanrisa945 to be fair, I think Eastman likes all the Ninja Turtles adaptations he seemed more like the easygoing member of the duo. Where as Laird pretty much hated any adaptation of the Ninja Turtles except for the 2003 series and 2007 movie he was more the cynical old man of two.

    • @juanrisa945
      @juanrisa945 7 месяцев назад

      @@tylerbertram7065 He dosen't like all. He didn't liked Secret of the Ooze (he actually thougth the 3rd movie was better than the second), but that's probably the exception to the rule.
      PD: I just found out that Venus' creation was Eastman's idea.

    • @tylerbertram7065
      @tylerbertram7065 7 месяцев назад

      @@juanrisa945 does he seriously like Ninja Turtles 3 over Secret of the Ooze that's news to me.

  • @sawysauce1256
    @sawysauce1256 7 месяцев назад +4

    Ahhh yes, one of hollywoods first attempts at the “just add a girl and women will watch it” strategy, seems it worked then just well as it works now which is to say not at all.

  • @FNAF_Boy3D
    @FNAF_Boy3D 8 месяцев назад +6

    This is for Tony Todd
    What other characters besides zoom, darkside, and venom would you like to voice?

  • @Pinkanator
    @Pinkanator 7 месяцев назад +4

    Actually, it's pretty funny you say Power Rangers was doing well at the time because... it wasn't! Due to the complete and utter bungle that was Turbo, In Space was a last-ditch "screw it we're getting cancelled anyway" season, with a slashed budget, very little oversight, and only running with the intent to end the show as well as they could. It's running on fumes, the effects are dire (not helped due to a misunderstanding about the sentai concept in pre-production) and all the confidence in Zeo's production has completely burnt out, but by making the best of what they could, audiences started to come back and revive interest in further seasons.

  • @acsaudiodramas
    @acsaudiodramas 7 месяцев назад +3

    Finally someone put it into words! Scott McNeil was the show's saving grace!

  • @Lboogie0711
    @Lboogie0711 8 месяцев назад +4

    Most fans thought having a girl turtle was weird but the idea could have worked, maybe the girl turtles could have robots designed by Baxter stockman to defeat the turtles

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah if they did it like with Mona or characters like the triceratons she could have worked, but trying to retcon her into being their (not) sister and force her into the team just feels wrong.
      Again it would have sucked if he was a dude too, hell i think it would have been worse

  • @ashcraft257
    @ashcraft257 2 месяца назад +1

    I actually don't mind Venus I think she needs a better way of doing it but she can work. I actually liked the character design of the light blue. I don't know how I would do her origin, but Last Ronin or a cameo of her helping Mikey or any other brothers if you want a different turtle. Helping him cope with the loss of his brothers.

  • @nerdman4862
    @nerdman4862 8 месяцев назад +13

    Weirdly enough the way u described her reminds me of Gwen from Ben 10 so that means there’s a way to make her character work. For a question I wanna ask yuri lowenthal what did he do to create his Symbiote Peter persona. Was it inspiration from other spider-men like barns and Keaton or was it inspiration from previous works like sasuke.

    • @Shift_Salt
      @Shift_Salt 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yuri is really good at doing a more dark corrupted take on his roles, Ben 10 gave him a few opportunities to do that but he's also gotten other roles where he can to do that like with his performance in RE Revelations 2.

    • @nerdman4862
      @nerdman4862 8 месяцев назад

      @@Shift_Salt u know I actually forgot about Albedo and the AF episode so good point. I'm just asking how did he approach it with this role

  • @freeNode5
    @freeNode5 7 месяцев назад

    I remember watching this one a lot, and wanting to be as into it as the previous properties, but it just never made sense to me. In retrospect, I think I was really just captivated by the girl turtle XD

  • @MrDj232
    @MrDj232 4 месяца назад +1

    I find it hilarious they tried to make turtle boobs professional by writing "rounded front shell" to highlight the feature on her design sketch.

    • @KotoCrash
      @KotoCrash Месяц назад +1

      I dont understand this complaint cause shes half turtle but still half human?
      Unless you think breasts are inherently some obscene thing

    • @MrDj232
      @MrDj232 Месяц назад +1

      @@KotoCrash You obviously don't understand a lot of things.

    • @KotoCrash
      @KotoCrash Месяц назад +1

      @@MrDj232 Yeah. Sure buddy.

  • @GrnArrow092
    @GrnArrow092 7 месяцев назад

    When it comes to adding a fifth turtle and teaming up with the Power Rangers, they did it better in the comics. Nobody complained when Jennika came along and joined up with the other turtles because she had a well defined personality. She managed to mingle well with them. As for teaming up with the Power Rangers, it was decided to have the TMNT team up with the original Power Rangers that time around. The teamup series had a very good story and it's worth checking out.

  • @stevelandmartin-khan2430
    @stevelandmartin-khan2430 7 месяцев назад

    11:54 in fairness, from what little I’ve seen of the 80s show raph isn’t very angry and is just sarcastic

  • @moonlightblade11
    @moonlightblade11 7 месяцев назад

    I always liked the idea of venus and her personality but i also thought that they under utilized her potential. She was one of the turtles that was infected with mutagen so she should have been treated as a younger sister bringing the family closer not placed as a love intrest and making the brother not blood related. Stuuupiiddd!! Her fighting style should have also had more magical, mystical fighting involved as ninjitsu magic instead of how badly she actually fought. She could have had some flying orbs weapon that shows of more of her magical abilities that would also limit the obsurb overkill she does when for some reason she does insane stuff. Venus deserved better.

  • @seanewing204
    @seanewing204 7 месяцев назад

    The way you make a fifth Turtle is by mutating April or Casey, with a yellow or white mask to match. Or let Casey keep skull mask.

  • @blakeellis9171
    @blakeellis9171 7 месяцев назад +2

    Finally Xavier uploads again after all these years!

  • @TheYoungGeninSasuke
    @TheYoungGeninSasuke 7 месяцев назад

    RIP Kirby Morrow my favorite monk from Inuyasha, Miroku and the freaking next Mutation

  • @Gander6309-KranchTheDestroyer
    @Gander6309-KranchTheDestroyer 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bro, the Ninja turtles aren't the Ninja turtles if they are not brothers😭

  • @TheGoldenConnorific
    @TheGoldenConnorific 7 месяцев назад

    I feel it would be more interesting if Venus was trained by Shredder sort of like Karai. I think the concept is cool how the Turtles are getting older but they should have I think maybe be a little mature or something. I think this series could have been cool...if they actually thought of good ideas and not make the worse thing in Turtle History!

  • @chevymontmarlo
    @chevymontmarlo 7 месяцев назад

    Mikey drives a hummer.....truck....without any covers or doors hiding his identity......hmm

  • @GarettAndCarissa
    @GarettAndCarissa 2 месяца назад

    I had never even heard of Next Mutation before this video. But I would have been 15 or 16 when it came out so I wasn't the target demographic.

  • @Loucoreo
    @Loucoreo 7 месяцев назад

    I have a funny story about his show. This show used to be on Netflix. I used to watch it all the time. I have had five tablets over my life. I have broke four of them while watching this show. It’s definitely cursed.

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one 7 месяцев назад

    I remember
    Reading about her once
    Seeing SHOES and She was in one of the boxes sides
    That's all I got
    XD

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 8 месяцев назад

    Honestly it would’ve been interesting to see their dynamic change do to them having a sister around in their lives, like I can definitely see Raphael become more of a protective brother if he ever had a sister.🤔🐱

  • @Jonrocks7
    @Jonrocks7 7 месяцев назад

    I remember this, but never remembered this.

  • @MARStheFORSAKEN
    @MARStheFORSAKEN 7 месяцев назад

    i remember watching this as a kids and even then i was like why does the female turtle(an amphibian)have mamory glands? how does that even work? they are behind the shell.

  • @kingbash6466
    @kingbash6466 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sucks that the original TMNT creators hated Venus so much that she had never made another appearance outside of Easter egg name drops or slight jabs for over 20 years since then. I think she can be a neat addition to the mythos if they put more effort into her character and not have the incest tones so high. IDW did give us a version of Venus, so that's neat, but I do wish she had more interactions with the other turtles besides Donnie, and you know, less intense trauma.

  • @SPIDERKN1GHT0327
    @SPIDERKN1GHT0327 8 месяцев назад +1

    1:31 I swear to god if you screw this up... WHY I OUTTA-

  • @IRLZeni
    @IRLZeni 6 месяцев назад +1

    The power rangers crossover was fire though 🔥

  • @raphaelzxa3729
    @raphaelzxa3729 7 месяцев назад

    I'm maybe the only one but I grow up with next mutation and yes after getting older I realise this has really bad, but I enjoy it, I adore Venus, because she has suck a unique thing and a great video.

  • @Kennythecoolkid
    @Kennythecoolkid 3 месяца назад

    Venus had potential I would love to see her in other stuff

  • @Guishmonster
    @Guishmonster 7 месяцев назад

    Question for Nadji what was the mocap experience like for you working on The Last of Us as opposed to the Spidey games any differences on how it was done and at Naughty Dog vs Insomniac or was generally the same process also what some directing style differences between Neil and Bryan?

  • @thecarrieshot6411
    @thecarrieshot6411 7 месяцев назад

    Interesting to see this a day after March 1st

  • @Deeper489
    @Deeper489 7 месяцев назад

    wait does Venus fit in the naming Scheme? Is it because painters would often paint the beauty of the goddess Venus?

  • @Guishmonster
    @Guishmonster 7 месяцев назад

    A Naruto question for Yuri when you and Maile were recording Naruto and Sasuke’s final showdown in Storm 4 what was your overall mindset or approach to that fight and did it at all change when the dub for Shippuden got to that fight?

  • @theholyzoidberg1772
    @theholyzoidberg1772 8 месяцев назад

    Bro hasn't uploaded in years I missed this guy

  • @SPIDERKN1GHT0327
    @SPIDERKN1GHT0327 8 месяцев назад

    They also did the blind-male friend thing in 2012 tmnt

  • @jeggsonvohees2201
    @jeggsonvohees2201 7 месяцев назад

    If we can have two Spider-Mans we can have 5 Ninja Turtles.

  • @zeokingsilver
    @zeokingsilver 7 месяцев назад

    much of the anamatronics and all was due to them having limited money also they had to make everything which is pricey

  • @LDFrost117
    @LDFrost117 7 месяцев назад +1

    Just a side note, in the IDW comics they kinda tried their own spin on the female mutant turtle concept with a character called Jennika and... it's definitely a VAST improvement from Venus, not perfect, but definitely a whole lot better, she actually had her own weapon and distinct look and was better defined as a character

  • @goji1473
    @goji1473 8 месяцев назад

    I dunno why but the only episode I remember is when Raph hanged out thorought the whole episode with a gorilla

  • @xMrBlack
    @xMrBlack 7 месяцев назад

    I'll take Venus every day over whatever the hell they're doing now.

  • @bloodanddajugs
    @bloodanddajugs 7 месяцев назад

    Venus should have been A. their sister, B. Just as stereotypically American and C. The Older Sister type

  • @chase9573
    @chase9573 8 месяцев назад

    Dont forget the Paramount Mountain Super Bowl Commercial

  • @TorridPrime217
    @TorridPrime217 8 месяцев назад +1

    You've never seen Phelous' reviews of this show? You fail, my dude, you epic fail

  • @cro-magnoncarol4017
    @cro-magnoncarol4017 7 месяцев назад

    First time I watched Mutant Mayhem I thought they made Donny a girl because of the young voice actors...

  • @cheezychex396
    @cheezychex396 7 месяцев назад

    i love this show

  • @makaylageorge718
    @makaylageorge718 7 месяцев назад

    I completely forgot about her!

  • @tyronleung5276
    @tyronleung5276 8 месяцев назад

    Next mutation would've had april and a full fledge shredder in the second season

  • @asherz2
    @asherz2 7 месяцев назад

    i actually enjoyed this show, even with how hilariously bad it is, but i think that's what made it enjoyable for me

  • @MyLibertyTV
    @MyLibertyTV 7 месяцев назад

    12:45 what do you mean by “they’re not brothers”??? The turtles have always been brothers.

  • @littlemissdeadly24papyrus36
    @littlemissdeadly24papyrus36 3 месяца назад

    I wish venus and the turtles actually had a family dynamic without the weird romance bs i think it would’ve been sweet

  • @ultragodzillafan
    @ultragodzillafan 8 месяцев назад

    1:11 What're the chances Xavier gets Tony Todd to sing 'Strangers in the Night' in his Venom voice?

  • @theotakux5959
    @theotakux5959 7 месяцев назад

    I'll never get it, I loved the show when I was 10, and I love it now.

  • @Voasky
    @Voasky 7 месяцев назад

    Can you ask them what their funniest blooper was?

  • @Egglover47
    @Egglover47 7 месяцев назад

    bro i check the link in desc... TF IS UP WITH THAT "SANTA RIO" PRINT!!!??

  • @antwonsmith8931
    @antwonsmith8931 7 месяцев назад

    Lol never paid attention to Next Mutation

  • @AntDoesStuff_
    @AntDoesStuff_ 8 месяцев назад

    When i see a notification from here i know its about to be good

  • @Wolftron-k3e
    @Wolftron-k3e 7 месяцев назад

    Yes, they are brothers

  • @beesh1019
    @beesh1019 7 месяцев назад +1

    Good

  • @griffinharp1106
    @griffinharp1106 8 месяцев назад

    You could look at Phelous’ reviews. He did all 26 episodes and was really funny.

  • @AlphaProto
    @AlphaProto 8 месяцев назад +1

    I agree with all of this video.
    It's like he copied all my comments on all the Next Mutation videos.

  • @rebal180
    @rebal180 7 месяцев назад

    I think a more accurate comparison would've been Power Rangers. From what I can tell they add like 5 extra members in every series now.

  • @Bonkused
    @Bonkused 8 месяцев назад +3

    Can someone please tell me what a gooner is?

    • @Shift_Salt
      @Shift_Salt 8 месяцев назад +2

      someone who's always being horny especially on the Internet.

    • @burner555
      @burner555 7 месяцев назад

      2024 buzzword for porn addict

    • @Shift_Salt
      @Shift_Salt 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@burner555honestly at this point it's not just about porn, it's making "horny" your personality/sense of humor at every opportunity.

  • @ThatBabzilla
    @ThatBabzilla 7 месяцев назад

    A fun little fact - Next Mutation was supposed to be a 4th movie by the same name where the boys themselves got mutated for a 2nd time, which gave them incredible powers. I can't remember much from that, and have no idea why we got this instead. I do know, to this day, Venus De Milo is still VERY much a hated character.
    I got to meet the Laird and Eastman, though I saw Eastman more than once. He's a great guy. He also had a hand in the 2k12 CGI show from Nickelodeon, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was around for Rise of the TMNT as well.

  • @ghostpizza0
    @ghostpizza0 8 месяцев назад

    This is for the live stream what is your favorite spider man game

  • @Mentalissues69
    @Mentalissues69 7 месяцев назад +1

    I’m ashamed that i actually enjoyed this series as a kid for context I was like 3 in 2013 i have no idea how I watched it even though the 2012 show was on the air

  • @Callme_dino211
    @Callme_dino211 7 месяцев назад

    What was your first exposure to Spiderman to yuri lowanthal from callme_dino211

  • @shrekssecretadmirer1065
    @shrekssecretadmirer1065 7 месяцев назад

    Looking back at it that show was pretty stupid but i have a soft spot for it because that's the show i grew up with

  • @JoeChillton
    @JoeChillton 8 месяцев назад

    Phelous covered this in depth and being a fan of the Turtles, it managed to inflict physical pain whenever i saw this, astoundingly terrible in every way. Venus was the least of the issues but served as a stark reminder of how bad this was.
    You have to try and make something this awful.

  • @partymantis3421
    @partymantis3421 7 месяцев назад

    The thing is, adding another turtle int a bad idea by itself,
    but you gotta make the new members bounce off the crew in a fun way ,otherwise theres no point,
    And making a lady turtle whos a total stickinthemud that the bros fight over was bound to fail,
    Also why choose to name her after the Venus de Milo statue when there were women renesance artists they could haveused:
    van Hemessen ,Fede Galizia ,Sofonisba Anguissola and more were right there,
    Atleast the image comics reworked her into something cool, check those out they are great

  • @NadeemShekh-uy9zn
    @NadeemShekh-uy9zn 7 месяцев назад +1

    Review Avengers earth's mightiest heroes

  • @daryltor7608
    @daryltor7608 7 месяцев назад

    Still waiting for the Transformers video

  • @spacejam8765
    @spacejam8765 8 месяцев назад +1

    I remember watching this tv show as a kid. I actually really enjoyed it. Hell I actually had a Leonard toy from the show. 😂

  • @comicking428
    @comicking428 8 месяцев назад +342

    Raphael having a more fitting voice for Mikey makes more sense when you find out its Ed from Ed, Edd, n Eddy.

    • @BradyTheAlien
      @BradyTheAlien 7 месяцев назад +32

      Ed dug a hole, and now Raph has to lie in it

    • @tylerbertram7065
      @tylerbertram7065 7 месяцев назад +11

      It seems like to me Matt Hill can't voice any character other than Ed from Ed, Edd'n Eddy.

    • @ultragodzillafan
      @ultragodzillafan 7 месяцев назад +3

      WHAT?!

    • @lyokianhitchhiker
      @lyokianhitchhiker 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@BradyTheAliendon’t you mean he dug a hole, dug a hole, dug a hole?

    • @BradyTheAlien
      @BradyTheAlien 7 месяцев назад +3

      ⁠​⁠@@lyokianhitchhiker exactly! Dig a hole, dig a hole, dig a hole, dig a hole…

  • @thegayghost872
    @thegayghost872 8 месяцев назад +501

    My only real complaint about Venus is that she doesn’t have a unique color. They just gave her light blue, when it could’ve been white or yellow or even pink.

    • @maciekwucow3989
      @maciekwucow3989 8 месяцев назад +59

      So just rule 34 Leonardo.

    • @Shift_Salt
      @Shift_Salt 8 месяцев назад +100

      Funnily enough all those colours have been used by other female turtle characters since.
      In the comics based on the 80s show April got turned into a turtle and she wore white, and in the newer comics they've introduced a couple new female turtles who favor yellow and pink.

    • @ozzie_theotter
      @ozzie_theotter 8 месяцев назад

      ​Nah thats rule 63​@@maciekwucow3989

    • @planetdrull1701
      @planetdrull1701 8 месяцев назад +93

      ⁠@@maciekwucow3989 That would be rule 63, not rule 34. That’s a whole other thing

    • @OwenPumprey
      @OwenPumprey 8 месяцев назад +9

      Definitely white.

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga 8 месяцев назад +758

    That weird time history where people behind power rangers took a spin on the ninja turtles, sounded good on paper, but with a rather questionable execution.

    • @simonbennett158
      @simonbennett158 8 месяцев назад +44

      Wait to you see the crossover between the shows… it’s something
      “You’re asking a turtle, who lives in a sewer, to explain a cosmic event?”

    • @realshow689
      @realshow689 8 месяцев назад +36

      I think part of what killed this was they didn't understand what defined the TMNT as characters or the themes of their world, they just saw it as Power Rangers but they're not human, and couldn't even get that right.

    • @Owenz8d
      @Owenz8d 8 месяцев назад +7

      Dude I have seen you in the comments section so much ever since I was a kid it would mean so much to me if you replied to this bro

    • @jaylenjayden9305
      @jaylenjayden9305 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@realshow689exactly

    • @RockerMicke1
      @RockerMicke1 8 месяцев назад +3

      Louis did a HOPR on in space and that he did mention the next mutation that he and PR fans has the opposite opinion on shell shocked. that it was terrible being that GM did mention Scott McNeal and Garry chalk was part of the cast. Next mutation was filmed in Canada so they had Canadian actors available as a pose to the LA and NY types which power rangers was a LA show

  • @TheRedGoblin-qz7mr
    @TheRedGoblin-qz7mr 8 месяцев назад +172

    HOLY FUCK!!! Xavier went from joking about if Yuri remembered him to hosting a live stream with the entire cast!

  • @realshow689
    @realshow689 8 месяцев назад +365

    > A normal, human sidekick made to be relatable
    > Daddy Derek

    • @RisingJay
      @RisingJay 7 месяцев назад +19

      least relatable sidekick to ever exist, maybe second to Chris from Sonic X for some folk lol

    • @Cuck-Lord
      @Cuck-Lord 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@RisingJay Chris chan?

    • @lepidus2918
      @lepidus2918 7 месяцев назад

      @@Cuck-Lord Chris Stuckman, actually

    • @leeeroyjenkins555
      @leeeroyjenkins555 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@Cuck-Lord if I had 2 nickles...

    • @guilhermehey3736
      @guilhermehey3736 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@Cuck-LordNO

  • @KathyHarrington
    @KathyHarrington 7 месяцев назад +87

    Looking at the situation as a whole, a rule against adding a fifth turtle was wise as it would involve rewriting the turtles' entire back story and throw the balance off, as was ultimately demonstrated with Venus and how convoluted her own backstory was.
    This is reminiscent in some respects to how the writers of the 2016 Powerpuff Girls series created a new Powerpuff Girl named Bliss, who was actually the very first Powerpuff Girl, and caused their own backstory to be rewritten in an equally convoluted way.

    • @shipper-of-heart8898
      @shipper-of-heart8898 7 месяцев назад +13

      What was even her backstory? She was a supergirl made by the professor but she had a temper problem and just vanished after a huge meltdown? Even though Professor made the girls on accident ,was thrilled his experiment actually worked, and was startled when he found out they had powers?

    • @KathyHarrington
      @KathyHarrington 7 месяцев назад +15

      @@shipper-of-heart8898 It felt very choppy and disjointed as a whole and completely disconnected from the series' continuity.

    • @fleebogazeezig6642
      @fleebogazeezig6642 6 месяцев назад +3

      They should have made her a newbie to the group with either limited or nonexistent combat experience instead. It’d also fit the theme of the TMNT being older, as they would have to act more responsibly towards the new member.

    • @KathyHarrington
      @KathyHarrington 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@fleebogazeezig6642Such would be the perfect and most sensible story line.

    • @shipper-of-heart8898
      @shipper-of-heart8898 6 месяцев назад

      @@fleebogazeezig6642 That would make sense, like they find out the mutagen is still being made, and a turtle got into it a few years ago (or even some time after the four did) so shes like a little sister to the gang and learns from them. Or even if they made he a kid turtle, they could tell her 'no stay back, its too dangerous for you, kiddo' and she occasionally saves them from whatever danger, and she'd be excited to learn each of their different techniques

  • @9Maciej
    @9Maciej 8 месяцев назад +278

    Just to address the "I didn't see anyone talk about show in deep length" there's actually a youtuber, Phelan Porteus, former Channel Awesome member and huge Turtle fan, who has a video series when he reviewed each episode of Next Mutation in details while also make fun of it, especially when it comes the edits in UK version. Just wanted to shout out him.

    • @GodzillaMendoza
      @GodzillaMendoza  8 месяцев назад +109

      I've never seen those videos but I've heard a lot of people mention them since I posted this so I may have to check them out!

    • @thecytoniuschannel1052
      @thecytoniuschannel1052 8 месяцев назад +12

      @@GodzillaMendoza I also recommend checking out the channel Omn and their review of the 1st TMNT movie.

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 8 месяцев назад +13

      ​​@@GodzillaMendozathey're pretty funny, he covers every episode individually i also found it weird that you never heard about them since he is pretty much the only other person who bothered to talk about this show (in detail at least)

    • @legoking6165
      @legoking6165 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@GodzillaMendoza
      You totally should. Those videos are what got me through 2020.

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 7 месяцев назад +2

      Thankfully someone mentions him. He did a great job in full detail as to why the show was awful.

  • @KaoruMzk
    @KaoruMzk 7 месяцев назад +122

    The worst part about the retcon is that, they didn't need to make the main 4 turtles unrelated, they could still be brothers while having Venus unrelated to them. Just say she was mutated by Shredded or something, introduce her as a villain at first that later becomes good; Saban literally did that exact storyline for the green ranger 5 years prior to Next Mutation.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 6 месяцев назад +11

      and again with the second pink ranger…

  • @josephchambers2000
    @josephchambers2000 7 месяцев назад +99

    A RUclipsr named Phelan Porteous did in depth coverage of every episode individually. It nearly killed him. But it’s a good watch.

    • @anthonysmith3415
      @anthonysmith3415 7 месяцев назад +9

      it absolutely is

    • @Popcultureguy3000
      @Popcultureguy3000 7 месяцев назад +8

      “Michelangelo is brain dead!”

    • @Dalehan
      @Dalehan 7 месяцев назад +4

      I'm a huge fan of Phelan Porteous' Turtle videos. Well, all his cartoon reviews really.

    • @alexnikolas1991
      @alexnikolas1991 7 месяцев назад +1

      Highly recommend.
      One of my favourite reviewers.

  • @reddeadspartan
    @reddeadspartan 8 месяцев назад +127

    I think Venus gets such a bad wrap because of The Next Mutation being a terrible show, she's actually one of the better parts of it, even if her backstory is needlessly clunky.
    I think they should focused on the fish out of water aspect as she slowly starts connecting with her new family (and get rid of the creepy horny overtones).
    Also I always liked the idea of her, Slash and Metalhead forming their own team.

    • @psycher7
      @psycher7 7 месяцев назад +16

      Sometimes she'd be the only likeable character. Everyone else, including Splinter, were moronic jerks.

    • @Popcultureguy3000
      @Popcultureguy3000 7 месяцев назад +4

      And your fan idea can’t even happen in the IDW comics where she got heavily reimagined as a powerful psychic and astral planes walking Frankenstein’s Monster, because of what’s happened to Slash and MetalHead in those comics.😩

  • @skyslasher2297
    @skyslasher2297 8 месяцев назад +111

    25:45 I just spat out my drink lol.

  • @kasam0308
    @kasam0308 8 месяцев назад +75

    If there’s one thing that’s great about the Next Mutation… it’s that Phelous did a retrospective that gave us great Ninja Turtles memes like, “A New Way” or “Michelangelo is Brain Dead”, or “What a Swinger”.

    • @ruleofoz2207
      @ruleofoz2207 8 месяцев назад +20

      Don't forget "I Hate Splinter!"

    • @reptile1687
      @reptile1687 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@ruleofoz2207technically that was turtles christmas

    • @ruleofoz2207
      @ruleofoz2207 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@reptile1687 it may have been what started it.
      But next mutation is when it truly lived up to it's true potential.

    • @waterh2o299
      @waterh2o299 7 месяцев назад +3

      I Hate Splinter🎶

    • @reptile1687
      @reptile1687 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@waterh2o299 gotta get for *DA SHREDDA* i hate splinter

  • @christophergarrett7082
    @christophergarrett7082 8 месяцев назад +128

    The fact they team up with the space rangers is the craziest thing in ninja turtles and power ranger history. Cause it means they are set in the same universe

    • @tyronleung5276
      @tyronleung5276 8 месяцев назад +9

      Technically next mutation was in the same universe as the 1990s trilogy

    • @briancoulombe4517
      @briancoulombe4517 7 месяцев назад +6

      It’s also crazy because this team up felt kind of inevitable in a way. And it’s this incarnation of both teams where it happened.

  • @patoren3gou653
    @patoren3gou653 8 месяцев назад +89

    Venus de Milo is basically Krystal from Star Fox if she was given even less to do

    • @Shift_Salt
      @Shift_Salt 7 месяцев назад +29

      Krystal unfortunately was more a case of a character being completely repurposed when they were supposed to be more.
      Venus was made to be the 5th turtle but just ended up being the subject of a ton of horny jokes.

    • @HylianWindRider
      @HylianWindRider 7 месяцев назад +10

      In Krystal's case Rare cut her out completely during development. Iirc Nintendo made the decision to put her in the game at all following that.

    • @Shift_Salt
      @Shift_Salt 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@HylianWindRider When Miyamoto wanted it to become a star fox game Rare were just gonna remove her and make the game about Fox since the male lead character they already had could be repurposed to be him. But he insisted Krystal stay in it and just be reworked into a new Star Fox character. How it ended up impacting her involvement in the game/story thereafter was considerably worse imo than if it had remained it's own game but y'know is how it is.

  • @jakew6162
    @jakew6162 8 месяцев назад +44

    Saban: So what if we make a TMNT live-action series with Power Rangers elements, but we put over annoying sound effects.
    The Producers: YES!!!

  • @gracekim25
    @gracekim25 8 месяцев назад +30

    Mmm it’s crazy how Venus herself wasn’t actually the issue 😅 it was the writing, the inconsistency of Venus’ knowledge of 90’s slang and her powers (and the fact that in that universe shinobi aren’t ninja…even though it means ninja😅) but yeah thanks to a certain cool Canadian youtuber I follow i know TOO MUCH about this show and I haven’t personally watched it 😂

  • @brandonspain12345
    @brandonspain12345 7 месяцев назад +32

    The show's development actually began as a 4th movie also titled "TMNT IV: The Next Mutation" which would actually explore the turtles and Splinter going through a second mutation, affecting each of them with different looks and abilities. (Donatello would've gained telepathic/telekinetic powers but at the cost of losing his eye sight and would've worn goggles. And got a metal bo staff, Leonardo had the ability to turn his skin into metal chrome, Michelangelo would've turned into a human and allowed him to be accepted into society., Raphael had the ability to morph into "Raptor-Raph" with long claws, and monstrous teeth, and Splinter had the power to become a muscular wererat creature in order to fight along with his sons.) Unfortunately that script didn't go well. (But elements would be recycled in the later "Red Sky" era of the 87 show.)
    And a new pitch was written titled "The Foot Walks Again" where instead the Turtles travel into a dark dystopian dimension. (I.e. Back to the Future 2 or Super Mario '93.) Which would've featured an evil hypersexualized April O'Neil, "Kasey" Jones having electrical taser-hands, and a firth turtle named "Kirby" (inspired by Jack Kirby.) Who was a rougher and violent survivalist in this dimension. The Foot Soldiers have also evolved with high-tech guns led by a Cyber-Foot leader "Fang". The Shredder is also very alive in this dimension. And the story would've taken elements of the City At War comic but with more futuristic tech gear with the hopes of making an even darker tone than the original 1990 film. However, that script went through many revisions, and rewrites from other writers and Eastman and Laird disliked more and more. Also, the trilogy's studio, New Line Cinema, was no longer attached and would've been distributed by TriMark Pictures. (The very small budget studio that brought us the Leprechaun and Warlock movies.) And this ambitious effects heavy movie could've ended up feeling like their previous films like Cyborg 2 (1993) and very unlikely Jim Henson's Creature Shop would've been able to return.

    • @tiamystic
      @tiamystic 7 месяцев назад +1

      Mikey got done dirty lmfaooo

    • @skyslasher2297
      @skyslasher2297 4 месяца назад

      That first one sounds kinda cool actually

  • @s.nifrum4580
    @s.nifrum4580 7 месяцев назад +27

    i actully think every single chaacter can be reworked to be fucking amazing
    Chung I: this dude found a turtle in chinatown and took her home to china. When she started mutating he was like “cool ill train her”. At some point he met splinter in the dream world and they became dream pals.
    Andre: as a youngman he was hit in the face with a canister that fell out of a truck permenantly blinding him. This is the same canister that mutated our heroes. Years later he became friends with splinter unaware of his true nature. At some point he figured out that splinter wasnt exactly normal. He said nothing because the revelation changed nothing.
    Venus: mei pei chi is the turtle that chung I found. After his tragic death she packed her bags and sold everything she could safely and emotionally part with in order to afford a trip from china to new york wearing a cloak that hid her face in order to avoid questions and scrutiny. Once in new york she found one of the turtles and followed him home where she was allowed to stay for as long as she needed. intially disapointed upon learning that none of the turtles were related she was quickly cheered up upon hearing that they saw each other as family regardless. at some point she was affectionately nicknamed venus di milo (venus for short) after bringing a statue home. She’s more focused on the mystic side of martial arts allowing her chi to flow through her strengthening her body and mind. She also utilizes magic. Both her chi and her magic do her credit but she still has difficulty with them sometimes resulting in doubts especially after she was temporarily weakened by the staff of bukai. Shes also somewhat proficient with chemical weaponry such as smoke bombs, glue bombs, bombs that perfectly replicate michealangelo’s breath, and itching powder. She came to rely on these a bit more after being weakened by the staff of bukai. Shes also knowedgeable in the feild of earth medicine and this combined with her magic and chi make her the teams unofficial healer and making her a good oartner for donnie when an antidote for something is required. Shes also highly skilled with various wrapons including swords, daggers, sharp fan thing, blowgun and shurikens. She and donatello do have a magic vs science rivalry at times, she thinks raph’s a bit too hotheaded and dickish, she questions leos leadership at times, and she wishes mikey would take things more seriously but she doesnt look down on them for any of this. She also has some difficulty with the english language but the other turtles are somewhat patient regarding this.
    Dragonlord: once an evil tyrant before humans locked him away in a magic mirror he escaped centuries later by finding a way into the dream world. He caotured splinter and killed chung I. When the turtles rescued splinter he hitched a ride with them to the waking world. He has a note worthy appetite threatening to eat any life form that inconveniences him. He has the ability to reach into the past and grab something but he doesnt use this ability often because anything he takes has to put back when hes done with it due to timeline shit. He breaths fire too and is somewhat handy with a sword. Hes also knowledgeable on basketball for some reason
    wick: the starscream to dragonlords megatron. he has his moments but he mostly fucks up all the time. And when he isnt fuckin up hes trying to take over. His appetite is also pretty substantial. he eats any life form he comes across but also enjoys celery. Hes a fan of michelangelos radio show and has considered switching sides for this very reason but ultimately being a bad guy is more beneficial for him. One time he created a super soldier potion that allowed him to usurp drsgonlord but this victory wasnt permanant.
    Purple luietenent: the bob to dragonlord’s joker. Not much personality to speak of but his loyalty is unmatched.
    Dr queeze: a jack of all trades scientist who isnt taken seriously by any feild. He works for drgonlord under constant threat of being eaten if he fails. He has several cybernetic implants that enable him to access the internet and hack into shit. He’s also an engineer and an arms maker inventing countless weapons and machines.
    Silver: a yeti, the last of his kind. he lives in newyork where he developed a taste for bananas. He steals money that he can never spend and artifacts that he can never sell. possibly to cope with being the only one yeti left. pays his henchnen pretty well though. He also once made use of a computer program that mind controls people. (Some ugly scientist guy sold it to him). the turtles are hesitant to kill him because although he has shown a capacity and willingness to kill them they also know hes the last of his kind. Causing the extinction of an intelligent race isnt something you just do lightly.
    Vam-mi: she was once defeated by chung I and her heart subsequently removed. sometime later shes awoken by her loyal vampire minions chi chu and bing. The trio does the usual vampire shit killing people either through drinking their blood or consuming their life force. Whatever theyre in the mood for. Vam-mi’s primary motivation is to get her heart back so that she can feel whole again.
    Chi chu and Bing. Chi chu is loyal and strategic, bing is loyal and wise. After vam-mi’s death her minions stick around to get revenge and reek whatever havoc they want in the meantime.
    Bonesteel: a monster hunter and tracker. When hes not hunting monsters he’s hunting endangered species because its the only money making skill he has. Hes not much when it comes to intelligence but he makes up for it with skill strategy and cunning. not only foes he sell the monsters and animals he captures but hes also been known to eat them on occasion. Hes also alluded to having eaten vampire heart before so cannibalism might not be out of the question considering vampires look enough like humans. Oh and hes scared shitless of gorillas.
    the unknowables: a pathetic gang of ass hats led by heavy duke that control a small part of the city. Bonesteel teamed up with them once and they got captured almost instantly.
    The rank: dragonlord’s army. Thats about it. Although some of them do defect for various reasons. Some aren’t comfortable eating intellogent life forms, some don’t think he’s a fit leader, some have grown to like michelangelo after listening to his radioshow.
    Turtle clones: created by dr queeze to be the perfect blend of slave, soldier and cattle for the dragons. they’re useful for fighting battles and doing basic work but sometimes theyre killed and eaten sometimes as punishment for failure sometimes just for the hell of it and sometimes when the dragons need to “stock up”. at first the turtles try to save them because mutant turtle solidariy oe something but it doesnt end well. They’re basically mindless drones under the control of the dragons and thus completely unreachable. Whenever the real turtles have to kill these guys they don’t handle it very well not only due to reasons aforementioned but also due to the visual sikililarities to their brothers and sister.
    Splinter clones: i got nothin, this wasn’t even a thing in the show i just think this wouldve been a fun idea. Maybe even bring the rat king in just for the hell of it.

    • @adventurekitty101
      @adventurekitty101 7 месяцев назад

      The "Sharp fan thing" is actually called a Tessen. It's a Japanese War fan.

    • @s.nifrum4580
      @s.nifrum4580 7 месяцев назад

      @@adventurekitty101
      thanks
      i thought about checking for that while i was typing but id already lost the whole thing multiple times at that point and just really wasn’t about to risk it
      i had planned on correcting it later and then i just forgot

  • @trustno173
    @trustno173 8 месяцев назад +64

    One thing I think is important to note, and the main reason I believe co-creator Peter Laird despised Venus, is that he did change his mind about a fifth Turtle, but the one that the creators wanted to add was a boy named Kirby, named after Laird and Eastman's personal hero and comics legend Jack Kirby who had recently passed away at the time. Venus (rather unfairly) essentially became an avatar for everything wrong with the show.

    • @Shift_Salt
      @Shift_Salt 8 месяцев назад +9

      Yeah I remember looking into that Kirby turtle concept, sounded interesting but unsure exactly how that situation went down.

    • @reddeadspartan
      @reddeadspartan 7 месяцев назад +12

      I've always loved seeing the obvious reverence Laird and Eastman have for Jack Kirby, to them he was the modern equivalent of a resonance painter.

  • @bartoszdulas1703
    @bartoszdulas1703 7 месяцев назад +21

    Fun fact: Power Rangers in Space (the season with Turtles crossover) actually had very small budget. It was meant to be the final season as the previous one, was a failure. It had low budget, but a productio that actually cared.

    • @noobishnubreal
      @noobishnubreal 7 месяцев назад

      I mean, they gotta go all out for a franchise that already succeededaly attract fans and made millions. It’s basically their only Shot just like how the world is at stakes during the events of space. They don’t want the series to die nor the franchise that they already built.
      Saban abandoned all of their failed creations in the very end but not Power rangers. As Power Rangers is their most successful creations that used Super Sentai as their base and incorporated it for Western Audience. They might have sold the franchise twice to save it from budget cost but they really cared about it. It’s really bad when it is so successful for its time or Really good when things aren’t going well.

    • @noobishnubreal
      @noobishnubreal 7 месяцев назад

      They basically tried every single way to save this franchise from extinction.

    • @michaelnally2841
      @michaelnally2841 6 месяцев назад

      Pretty much every time power rangers was on its way to being cancelled the team has been like “you know we might as well go out with a bang.”

  • @ironmaster6496
    @ironmaster6496 8 месяцев назад +19

    I JUST saw the Toys that made us episode that pretty much confirmed that Venus indeed killed the friendship between Peter and Kevin, talk about great timing

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 8 месяцев назад +77

    All I think of when it comes to this series is the Phelous reviews. The highlights being, Leonardo’s “NEW WAY” and Michelangelo’s brain damaged moments. 😂

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 8 месяцев назад +1

      Eh!❤

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 8 месяцев назад +14

      Same haha i hate Splineter

    • @anthonysmith3415
      @anthonysmith3415 7 месяцев назад +1

      you just got Shredded

    • @BlackPuma124
      @BlackPuma124 7 месяцев назад +1

      Cool, you’re the guy who uploads newlegacyinc clips

  • @PuppyLove2468
    @PuppyLove2468 8 месяцев назад +18

    Phelan Porteous did a series reviewing each episode if you want an in-depth analysis/play-by-play!

  • @CHECKthisvid
    @CHECKthisvid 8 месяцев назад +25

    9:57 that wasn’t the theme song for the original Fox Kids broadcast btw

    • @comixproviderftw_02
      @comixproviderftw_02 8 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah, that’s the theme to the end credits that’s used for the opening for some reason on the dvds

    • @Linklex7
      @Linklex7 8 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah I was waiting for him to do an editior’s note about the original theme.

    • @JimKtv
      @JimKtv 8 месяцев назад +4

      Came here to say the exact same thing.

    • @CHECKthisvid
      @CHECKthisvid 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@comixproviderftw_02Actually, the End Credits theme is ALSO different on the original Fox Kids broadcast, hence why the accompanying visuals have backup dancers.