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    2014's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was an effort from Paramount and Michael Bay to recapture the financial success of the Transformers franchise. Unfortunately it didn't exactly go as planned. The movie was pretty bad and forgettable to the point where the better sequel flopped at the box office badly and thus the franchise was buried before it even fully began. In today's Anatomy of a Failure, lets look at TMNT to see the pitfalls of starting a new blockbuster franchise.
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    Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014)
    Paramount Pictures and Michael Bay present this reboot of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles franchise with Wrath of the Titans' helmer Jonathan Liebesman directing. The sinister Shredder has seized control of New York City's police and politicians, leaving his ruthless Foot Clan to spread chaos in the streets. With no prospects for salvation in sight, mutant crime-fighters Raphael, Leonardo , Donatello, and Michaelangelo leap into action. They put up a fierce fight, too, though in order to truly defeat Shredder, the heroes in honest trailer teenage mutant ninja turtles cinemasins everything wrong with teenage mutant ninja turtles bad movie ninja turtles 3 mistakes movie mistakes teenage mutant ninja turtles tmnt only action action scenes teenage mutant ninja turtles watch full movie free online 4k clip hd half shell will need the help of box office flops biggest courageous reporter April O'Neil (Megan Fox) and her quick witted cameraman Vern Fenwick (Will Arnett) as well. With their help, Shredder's plan will quickly unravel, and this once-great city will rise again.
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  • @operationangel7940
    @operationangel7940 Год назад +1774

    It is one thing to criticize a work, it is another to suggest ways to fix it. The fact that you do both makes you one of if not the best channel for movie disseminations.

    • @jdal21
      @jdal21 Год назад +50

      thats the beauty of constructive criticism, point out the goods and bads, suggest and/or propose a way to fix or improve, however ...
      the films are already out.

    • @ComedyBros5
      @ComedyBros5 Год назад +6

      Filmento is the best there is in this line of work!

    • @minhtran7431
      @minhtran7431 Год назад +2

      I’ve heard The Star wars production team actually followed his advice and failed or sth?

    • @jdal21
      @jdal21 Год назад +10

      @@minhtran7431 Well, suggestion/proposal is one thing, and that being helpful/correct is another, what matters is you try to give a creative feedback, results are always up to the viewer's preferences whether their perception and opinion is recognized and accepted generally by the mass audience or not

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 Год назад +5

      @@minhtran7431 What Joshua said. Plus, there's still that one hurdle called "execution". Just because you're theoretically doing the right thing, doesn't mean you're doing it the right way.

  • @mrrodriguezHLP
    @mrrodriguezHLP Год назад +1449

    This movie really shows its weaknesses when compared directly to the original TMNT movie. I showed my niece that movie and her mind was blown by stuntguys doing real choreographed fight scenes while wearing realistic giant turtle suits with animatronic heads. That's not all though, the character motivations, threat levels of the villain, and writing are done to perfection. The filmmakers take the subject matter with this seriousness that isn't condescending to the target demographic of children, they wait for Vanilla Ice in TMNT 2: Secret of the Ooze to do that. The movie is dark without being grimdark. The revelation of the turtles is worthy of NINJAS. Shredder's method of building a ninja army through recruiting abandoned kids is perfect. His motivation isn't poisoning the city with mutagenic gas, he wants to be the top dog gangster of a rich and powerful city, and he gets a kick out of corrupting disaffected youth. The movie even gets Casey Jones right, and April is perfectly balanced.

    • @xipheonj
      @xipheonj Год назад +91

      I cannot praise the 1990 movie enough, it was basically perfect. Aside from obvious early 90s things it could still do amazing if it was released today.

    • @lainiwakura1776
      @lainiwakura1776 Год назад +63

      GO NINJA, GO NINJA, GO!
      Sorry, couldn't resist lol.

    • @mrrodriguezHLP
      @mrrodriguezHLP Год назад +50

      @@xipheonj No one, anywhere, in TV and movies is doing what Jim Henson studios was able to achieve. CGI is laziness at this point.

    • @XenoJehuty84
      @XenoJehuty84 Год назад +35

      It's an untouched classic for a reason. They got everything mostly right, and it stands the test of time. I recently re-watched it and just felt, that awe as a child return, along with the appreciation as an adult for how they made such a glorious film.

    • @sieman78
      @sieman78 Год назад +16

      exactly @Mario...the original was a masterpiece with respect to being faithful to the cartoon and the original comic art, art direction, casting was taken seriously and as you stated, the dark, somewhat mature tone of it was precise. Sadly I don't think hollywood'' has the scruples, balls and ability to go with that winning formula again. Let's just sit back and watch the trainwreck reboots

  • @master0fthearts894
    @master0fthearts894 Год назад +1204

    The worst part is that they had so much source material.
    From the original comics, 📖 to the first show, 📺 to 2003, 2012, each series had something that the movies could’ve learned from & used.
    Literally every suggestion you made to make this movie better was done in each and every other one of the Turtle’s 🐢 incarnation, and you had the *blueprint for a franchise in the palm of your hand,* and they still blew 💥 it.
    In fairness, I still like both flicks and think they’re dumb fun…. but it just *reeks* of wasted potential.

    • @viljamtheninja
      @viljamtheninja Год назад +30

      Having lots of source material is definitely not a guarantee for a good movie. Coughstarwarscough

    • @madcap3450
      @madcap3450 Год назад +69

      @@viljamtheninja It is if you actually utilize it instead of flushing it all down the drain for a Marysue character

    • @johnstrawb3521
      @johnstrawb3521 Год назад

      The worst part is that Megan Fox is nowhere near as bangable as she was when Transformers was made. Lazy, to rely on a woman of modest thespian abilities who peaked FIFTEEN years ago.

    • @terryrocks2j
      @terryrocks2j Год назад +22

      @@viljamtheninja The expanded universe was discarded. Disney made their own nonsense and it failed.

    • @sirshotty7689
      @sirshotty7689 Год назад +8

      @@madcap3450 they could’ve just adopted the heir to the empire trilogy into the sequel trilogy and it would’ve been infinitely better. But they instead insisted on doing their own story without putting in any of the character development or world consistency you’d expect in other Star Wars properties. It’s like the 2016 berserk anime of the Star Wars franchise.

  • @Mortuana
    @Mortuana Год назад +665

    I don't know if you did this on purpose or not, but your examples of how to introduce the characters and the setting is almost a spot on recreation of how it happened in the original film.

    • @GeezySJones
      @GeezySJones Год назад +13

      I didn't see your comment...
      but i said the exact same thing

    • @joeljames2683
      @joeljames2683 Год назад +72

      Funny you bring that up, because the first movie's introduction of the turtles was a recreation of how they were introduced in the original cartoon. I think that was more specifically what he was alluding to.

    • @MetaMAV752
      @MetaMAV752 Год назад +17

      I was literally running to the comments to say this exact same thing! kudos! Just goes to show how GOOD the original TMNT is and how unrated and under appreciated it is. In my humble opinion

    • @wiseangel2
      @wiseangel2 Год назад +5

      I was thinking about the original live action film during each example. 🙂

    • @LeopoldLitchenstein
      @LeopoldLitchenstein Год назад +4

      That was the first thing I noticed too when he started pitching his own ideas for how it should have gone, honestly I'm shocked that he made more comparisons to Bayformers than that (but I also get why since this movie was trying so damn hard to be Bayformers). Part of me is actually glad he didn't just compare it to the 90 movie the whole time because I hate videos that are essentially just "it isn't [old thing], so it bad by comparison".

  • @thatoneguy2869
    @thatoneguy2869 Год назад +537

    Elevator scene still slaps

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Год назад +56

      That’s the best scene in the WHOLE ENTIRE THING!

    • @Eternal_Sky_Universe
      @Eternal_Sky_Universe Год назад +8

      @@chasehedges6775
      You mean Turtles vs Shredder final battle?

    • @badfoody
      @badfoody Год назад +4

      @@Eternal_Sky_Universe that was still cool though but could've been better

    • @Lazekillerwhale
      @Lazekillerwhale Год назад +3

      I was wondering if you know the song at 5:57 and
      7:58

    • @JJKIDKMAN
      @JJKIDKMAN Год назад +2

      Cannot be more correct

  • @noterobrine9921
    @noterobrine9921 Год назад +2475

    Hey filmento, I know you might not see this but I just wanted to thank you for your critic analysis of movies and stories, always giving ideas on how they could be improved. I've started writing and I always call back to things you've said in the past to make a good story!

    • @PrimerCinePodcast
      @PrimerCinePodcast Год назад +38

      100%!!! These are full on screenwriting classes by themselves. Thank u filmento :)

    • @Retr008
      @Retr008 Год назад +17

      YES!!! See,To be a storytell you always have to take notes from other stroytellers as well,and this person gives neat criticism as well when it comes to plot,Characters, exposition,and so much more that's very true,I'm glad to hear I'm not the only person who thinks this

    • @aaryandherange1515
      @aaryandherange1515 Год назад +5

      Yeah same here bud.

    • @PrimerCinePodcast
      @PrimerCinePodcast Год назад +8

      @@Retr008 Absolutely, we can’t just expect to make great stories on a vacuum without learning from other’s experiences attempting the same

    • @sera_sarzad
      @sera_sarzad Год назад +1

      Same

  • @_tideaina
    @_tideaina Год назад +188

    I felt like the animated movie did the importance of brotherhood and strength in unity thing much better.
    Ralph's confession seemed like it came out of nowhere

    • @wjzav1971
      @wjzav1971 Год назад +30

      The whole thing of "Ralph questions Leonardo's leadership and wants to leave" has become a little stale and overdone.

    • @jarredlucas4000
      @jarredlucas4000 Год назад

      @@wjzav1971 you morons don't even know the name of the turtle you are referecing, go watch something else kids.
      It's "Raph" as in "Raphael"

    • @thewatcher6969
      @thewatcher6969 Год назад +27

      @@wjzav1971 that's why I'm so happy that they did NOT do that for the ROTTMNT movie. Raph only yelled, cause he was scared. He didn't yell just to berate Leo.

    • @robertthompson4115
      @robertthompson4115 Год назад +3

      Or in this case, it wasn’t even executed outside of a line of dialogue

    • @notundermywatch3163
      @notundermywatch3163 Год назад +1

      Who's " Ralph "?... You mean Raf ?

  • @Ocapela215
    @Ocapela215 Год назад +188

    I love how filmento describes how to make this better then realizing he describes the original almost to the T.
    OG tmnt is 🐐

    • @Kurogane72
      @Kurogane72 Год назад +7

      I came here to make this exact same comment, had to see if it was said first.

    • @petersanzen4106
      @petersanzen4106 Год назад +4

      I was going to say the same thing also.

  • @slendertv3616
    @slendertv3616 Год назад +57

    It’s sad when the 1993 TMNT movie for younger audiences did better at introducing the characters.

    • @MinorityGamerReport1
      @MinorityGamerReport1 Год назад +19

      The 90s TMNT movie is way more mature-feeling than this one.

    • @alwaysxnever
      @alwaysxnever Год назад +1

      Script-writing was a bot more mature back then. Sometimes. Lol

  • @LeoArmada
    @LeoArmada Год назад +673

    I was so sad when these movies flopped, i feel like if done differently, this could've been pretty big and interesting, i like TMNT, and for the first time ever, seeing an animation being adapted into Live action, to me at least, didn't instantly trigger Cringe, at least cartoon human looking characters, i kinda liked the way these guys looked, very badass and cool.

    • @BingBangPoe
      @BingBangPoe Год назад +60

      No, it's good they flopped, because it shows that the fans will not take that kind of garbage for granted. The turtles redesign was awful and very uncanny valley, the humor was terrible and the story ultimately had no heart whatsoever. Compare that film with the original 1990 live action film and the difference in tone is gigantic.

    • @HolaMundoTheMisteriousAG
      @HolaMundoTheMisteriousAG Год назад +8

      @@darthkai8242
      The movie of 90 is overrated and cringe

    • @weilam03
      @weilam03 Год назад +28

      @@HolaMundoTheMisteriousAG the 90s movie were more true to the 90s cartoons. there has never been a serious adaptation of the original comics

    • @CoOlKyUbI96
      @CoOlKyUbI96 Год назад +3

      @@weilam03 I would rather rewatch the original live action film and its two sequels over the Micheal Bay TMNT films

    • @MinorityGamerReport1
      @MinorityGamerReport1 Год назад +11

      The original movie isn’t “cringe” at all. It holds up perfectly.

  • @Qassashrhehs
    @Qassashrhehs Год назад +548

    TMNT is certainly one of the movies ever made. The turtles are acting and the plot is present. The costumes are in it and the script was somehow pitched and written by THE screenwriter. The director is absolutely a director and the visual effects are probably one of the visual effects ever made. It’s certainly a movie that was made with motion pictures. I’ll rate it a /10

  • @Twizz9091
    @Twizz9091 Год назад +30

    When I was 8, me and my grandmother went to see this movie in theaters, I only remember one thing when I was there. The scene were Raph kicks shredder off the building and said “cowabunga”, the people in their seats were cheering and clapping, that was a nice memory.

  • @Excalibur-Sonic
    @Excalibur-Sonic Год назад +9

    The elevator scene is the one scene I really like. Shame it was so short.

  • @shadeblackwolf1508
    @shadeblackwolf1508 Год назад +321

    Alternatively, the 2003 animated series has an opening that would work well on film. we start with a day in the life of the turtles, when robots suddenly break into their home and seemingly everywhere else in the sewers. This forces them into the surface world, and from there we can either follow up on Baxter Stockman, which would have made for a better first villain, or get them tangled up with the Foot, and leave the robots as a future plothook to follow up on. This opening has the benefit of making the TMNT the main characters, rather than the human sidecharacter.

    • @TheRibottoStudios
      @TheRibottoStudios Год назад +34

      Not only that, but from the first FIVE MINUTES we understand at least the BASICS of each brother's personality. Michelangelo is impulsive, pretty chill, and the youngest. Splinter saying he's clumsy implies a lack of focus during training. Donatello quiet, pragmatic the middle kid. Splinter saying he's too noisy implies that he isn't as skilled as the others at being quiet like a ninja should. Makes sense sense he's often in his lab. Raphael, stubborn and hotheaded the second eldest. Splinter saying in just this SUCH dad tone "poor choice Raphael." shows that Raph often seems to make decisions based on anger instincts, rather than thinking it through, like trying to slice the candle with his sai. Leonardo calm and logical, the leader. The only one able to get the candle from Splinter. And the one trying to reign in his brothers when they have to go to the surface "we're only going up to go DOWN the NEXT manhole cover." yeah that goes well lol.
      We see that Leo and Raph butt heads "Teacher's pet" Raph sneers, "Ninja dropout." Leo retorts. Followed by Mike and Don in the background going "ohhhOHHHH." clearly enjoying the free entertainment of "Gee a fight between Leo and Raph?" "Oh, I didn't see THAT coming" the young siblings are so used to it, they quip about it in later episodes.
      The first 5 minutes of the show is great cause it introduces you to each brother, and later on as the show progresses, we get to the solo episodes that dives more into the complexity of each turtle.It's brilliant storytelling, because it sets you up to think "oh well Raphael is ALWAYS the hothead, he just shoves his emotions aside, emotional range of a teaspoon." then the show hits you with SEVERAL instances of Raph nearly breaking down. Or Donatello is shown to be quite a capable fighter, Mikey is able to see the seriousness of certain situations, and even Leonardo isn't perfect. Leo's depression arc in season 4 is just truly outstanding writing. "I did THE BEST. I COULD!" still gives me chills.

    • @reallyhimongod
      @reallyhimongod Год назад +1

      You’re just rehashing the same damn idea there’s no originality in that..

    • @TheRibottoStudios
      @TheRibottoStudios Год назад +12

      @@reallyhimongod that's not the point he's trying to make. They're simply saying that the plot of the first episode, has a way to be translated over to film rather than the plot of the film itself. How they meet April in the 03 series even makes more sense than in the Bay movie. It all just feels more natural for the moments to progress as they do in the 03 first episode, than the film.

    • @dapperdabber13
      @dapperdabber13 Год назад +15

      the 03 turtles is really the best iteration there is. It balanced humor and darker tones really well. Same as it Never Was is one of my all time favorite cartoon episodes.
      Poor Donnie man.

    • @Hide_Me
      @Hide_Me Год назад +8

      @@dapperdabber13 I was about to reply and comment this but you beat me there.
      The 2003 series really was the best one, too bad we're doomed to 80's wank for eternity.

  • @djara704
    @djara704 Год назад +10

    Your way of opening TMNT was how the original live action film did it. And that was classic

  • @Gersheyz
    @Gersheyz Год назад +22

    I love how every one of the tips made to make this a better movie/franchise was basically: Make it like the one from the 90s. April investigates, gets caught up with shady criminals, and gets saved. Ralph goes out on his own so his threat to leave makes sense. Show a sense of brotherhood among the heroes in a significant way

  • @MrMegatron85
    @MrMegatron85 Год назад +188

    Ninja turtles was MY LIFE as a kid. That being said, I couldn't even make it through these movies

    • @JohnGalt916
      @JohnGalt916 Год назад +23

      Same I walked out of the first remake. Mind you I was such a TMNT fan. My mom, who was a broke college student at the time. Got me preview tickets to the first movie. I will never forget the tickets had the turtles printed on them. I'm 40 and to this day that's my favorite childhood memory. That and the Christmas I got a Nintendo. 😢😢😢 I gotta go call my mom now😭

    • @Techno-Wolf
      @Techno-Wolf Год назад +5

      Ya’ll should watch Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles from 2018, that show is awesome!!

    • @MrMegatron85
      @MrMegatron85 Год назад +1

      @@JohnGalt916 that's awesome man. I need to stop spending money and save up for a super shedder tattoo that I've been planning for forever.

    • @abernier1401
      @abernier1401 Год назад +1

      @@Techno-Wolf the 2012 show is better in my opinion.

  • @Darkdaej
    @Darkdaej Год назад +17

    So basically, your setup for the story's beginning is a rework of the original TMNT film...Cuz in that one, April tracks the Foot, gets caught and a disguised Raphael saves her. He loses one of his Sai during the fight, she picks it up and investigates further...

  • @roguedagger1
    @roguedagger1 Год назад +32

    I appreciate how you give an alternative plot when criticizing. Anyone can say, ‘that plot was bad,’ but not a lot of people can explain why and how it could be fixed. Keep up the great content!

  • @laurabeltranmelee
    @laurabeltranmelee Год назад +3

    what's funny about your idea of Raph going solo and getting everyone in trouble is that it's sorta similar to something that happens in the 2007 movie and that aspect is done way better there from what I remember

  • @prosonlychannel7798
    @prosonlychannel7798 Год назад +10

    Shredder was the biggest disappointment of the entire film. I remember how bad ass he was as a character in the animated shows but than he was was just a character that had no motivations and the worst introductive scene in the film

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo4397 Год назад +9

    I once took part in an "Iron Man" tournament where we had to stay up for 3 days straight to win a prize. I made it to the last night but made the mistake of watching the live action Ninja Turtles & fell asleep

  • @TheRibottoStudios
    @TheRibottoStudios Год назад +167

    What I love about the TMNT franchise is there's something for everyone. 80s Turtles is kinda silly. Not just funny but goofy. It didn't take itself so seriously. The 03 Turtles (MY boys) are serious and stick close enough to the comics apparently even taking stills STRAIGHT from the comics to the show. What I really like about the 03 show is that it gives you some one on one time with each brother to get to know them on a personal level. There are solo episodes for Don, Leo, Raph and Mike. That's nice. The brothers there are a tight knit family (which is something that always bothered me about rise despite how much I love it. The brothers there don't FEEL really close like they should be.).
    2012 Turtles has a good mix of serious and humorous elements. Mikey isn't the only one who gets to be a kid there. Even Leo nerds out over things. And the brothers actually treat Mikey as a little brother there; even when his arm is broken Leo asks first about Mikey, and Raph AND Leo are uber protective of him. Don and Mikey get some fun younger sibling moments too.
    The Bay Turtles even has some fun moments in it, and Shell Shocked IS a good song to nod your head to. There are people who do enjoy these movies, and I can definitely see why. Some of the action set pieces are just incredible to watch, and it's nice to see the brothers have actual GOOD character designs, vs just being different shades of green like in the 03 version, though I do get why you'd do that, to save time on animating.
    Then Rise of the TMNT is just BALLS. TO THE WALL. COMEDY. And NOT JUST comedy, but heartfelt moments as well. And there are so many funny moments but I think my all time favorite moment is "look over there PUSH!" cause Donnie is absoLUTELY radiating middle child energy for once. The shift in dynamics was interesting too; it's weird but interesting to see Leo not only be NOT the leader, but the third youngest cause it goes Raph, Don, Leo, Mikey. Something I hope that continues is that they keep making the brothers look distinct. Because I really loved that about this show. Each brother being a different turtle species was a great idea.

    • @guilhermefranco2930
      @guilhermefranco2930 Год назад +1

      And apparently the new IDW comics are amazing. Haven't touched them but everyone talks how it's the best version

    • @MM-hf6om
      @MM-hf6om Год назад +1

      @@guilhermefranco2930 they were until issue 100

    • @inumidunoyenuga5333
      @inumidunoyenuga5333 Год назад +2

      Have you watched TROTMNT movie??

    • @TheRibottoStudios
      @TheRibottoStudios Год назад +9

      @@inumidunoyenuga5333like at LEAST half a dozen times already AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Ben wasn't kidding what a hell of a way to end his run as Leonardo.

    • @silverprimus321boi9
      @silverprimus321boi9 Год назад +3

      Rotmnt had some stupid good action as well, like the animators musta had dragon ball on their minds when they was making their shit

  • @MinorityGamerReport1
    @MinorityGamerReport1 Год назад +55

    It’s hilarious because nearly everything you suggested to improve this movie was already in the original 90s one 😂

    • @janeenschultz8502
      @janeenschultz8502 Год назад +2

      Exactly! Sure, they had 90s camp, but we're talking about the TMNT. The late 80s-early 90s trilogy fit the vibe beautifully. My two boys LOVE those movies.

    • @LoWsDominios
      @LoWsDominios Год назад

      I was about yo say that, lmao.

    • @labpman7227
      @labpman7227 Год назад

      The ones the 90s give me the creeps as a kid
      The Michael Bay ones are trash

  • @jessetorres8738
    @jessetorres8738 Год назад +66

    Personally, I feel the 2012 Nickelodeon TMNT series is both the best and darkest version/adaptation ever made of the franchise.

    • @badbrad3213
      @badbrad3213 Год назад +15

      Totally agree, I remember watching it as a kid and liking but now having went back and watching it again its probably if not the best adaptation of TMNT

    • @gamerstheater1187
      @gamerstheater1187 Год назад +5

      yes!

    • @SonicLegends
      @SonicLegends Год назад +9

      I think it's a 2nd best to 2003 being 1st in darkest version/adapation especially because of what goes on with Baxter Stockman in that with the mutilation going on increasing throughout it and even the episode Insane in the Membrane got banned. I know that even the creators of TMNT said they much preferred it over the 1st animated series in being closest to what they envisioned.

    • @RusPitman
      @RusPitman Год назад +1

      The IDW comics are pretty damn good too.

    • @bananasinfrench
      @bananasinfrench Год назад +4

      @@SonicLegends The 2003 series goes hard fr, Insane in the Membrane is such a rough episode, I love it so much. Same as it Never Was is also notably horrifying, and pretty much anything Agent Bishop was involved in got very dark. I owe that series for my taste in storytelling!

  • @ZamboniZone
    @ZamboniZone Год назад +49

    How to make the opening of the movie better: litterally describes the plot if the first movie abd how it opened. Lol love it

  • @Fork1
    @Fork1 Год назад +16

    You sort of used the pilot to the 80s cartoon as an example of how to introduce everything and it's a shame they just didn't do that!

  • @Grasslander
    @Grasslander Год назад +10

    I don't know WHAT you are talking about. The Ninja Turtles movie was made in 1990 and it was wicked cool.

  • @thepopculturebuff5080
    @thepopculturebuff5080 Год назад +10

    The 2014 movie is ok for what it is.
    But in terms of live action movies, the 1990 adaptation is still supreme. It introduces the elements gradually rather than all at once via Tony Shalhoub.

  • @uddelhexe3545
    @uddelhexe3545 Год назад +2

    The transit to the sponsor was smooth af. I didn't see it coming until i was already in it. Skill

  • @roonkolos
    @roonkolos Год назад +9

    Dude that slide into the add was masterfully done

  • @optimusprime028
    @optimusprime028 Год назад +3

    The ironic thing about this film is that even tho Michael Bay produced it, it's almost like all the key scenes are somehow opposite of Michael Bay's filmmaking style, which is usually far from boring.

  • @LeonardoKlotz
    @LeonardoKlotz Год назад +45

    I knew how awful this movie was gonna be
    Not because Michael Bay was the producer, but because Jonathan Liebesman
    It was obvious that he was a director for hire, and that Michael Bay hired him because of their collaboration on THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE: THE BEGINNING

    • @hiattgrey9161
      @hiattgrey9161 Год назад +6

      Can't wait for Filmento's Film Perfection of Transformers 1.

    • @andreafraustoz
      @andreafraustoz Год назад

      too bad Shredder didn't exploded

    • @charlespuruncajas9663
      @charlespuruncajas9663 Год назад +1

      His previous movie before this (World Invasion: Battle Angel) is such an underrated blockbuster flick. Shame this one isn’t

  • @prototypelq8574
    @prototypelq8574 Год назад +89

    I feel like there's been a lot of Failure analysis, and not enough Film Perfection episodes. Maybe you could do one on B-category (budget-wise) movies? Personally, I'd love to see an episode about Everything Everywhere All At Once

    • @101Supercritic
      @101Supercritic Год назад +7

      He thrives on negativity. Other channels have popped up because it’s better, viewerwise, to talk about something negatively than positively.

    • @g.d.graham2446
      @g.d.graham2446 Год назад +1

      Definitely

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 Год назад +3

      Cuz Hollywood isn't that good at making good movies, hence why we cling to anything remotely orginal and well made

    • @viljamtheninja
      @viljamtheninja Год назад

      @@101Supercritic There are plenty of channels with mindless paid-off corporate shills, you're free to watch that if you are offended by the "negativity" of Filmento.

    • @FireOfSinai
      @FireOfSinai Год назад +5

      He made a community poll a while back asking which series his viewers preferred more. Of course, Anatomy of a Failure won, so I think that's a big reason why we see these types of vids more.

  • @jeanne5135
    @jeanne5135 Год назад +47

    I just want to say, I'm a Creative Writing major, and I've learned more about screenwritting and story structures from your videos than from 2 years of college so far. I never miss a video from you.

    • @zanyawesome30
      @zanyawesome30 Год назад +2

      As a grad creative writing student, it's probs going to stay that way

    • @jeanne5135
      @jeanne5135 Год назад +2

      @@zanyawesome30 I figured as much, unfortunately.

    • @bufflatino5121
      @bufflatino5121 Год назад +1

      *Filmento's ideas and structural breakdowns are shallow at best. They wouldn't get a C- in your average writing course. His brilliant suggestion of having us watch the Turtles do math and reading sounds incredibly boring.* 👎🏼👎🏼

    • @k-dogg9086
      @k-dogg9086 Год назад

      We need output, not ass kissing.

  • @dutchlines6508
    @dutchlines6508 Год назад +71

    It's so sad these movies flopped. They could have been so much more. I do would love to know your opinion on the rottmnt movie that came out 5 days ago. Because the rise version is very different compared to the previous versions (I find it actually a very refreshing take on the turtles)

    • @thundervolt1018
      @thundervolt1018 Год назад +9

      That movie slaps. Surprisingly made me emotional (if you watched the movie you know what part I’m talking about)

    • @triple_kale9332
      @triple_kale9332 Год назад +1

      Off topic but Nice Monkie Kid pfp

    • @dutchlines6508
      @dutchlines6508 Год назад +2

      @@triple_kale9332 haha thanks

    • @bananasinfrench
      @bananasinfrench Год назад +1

      The Rise movie is such a banger fr. The Rise universe as a whole is such a great and refreshing spin on the tried and true formula, I'm convinced there were at least a few 2k3 fans in that team

  • @bradwolf07
    @bradwolf07 Год назад +24

    I remember being psyched when this movie was announced. I was even excited for Megan Fox as April O'Neil. And then it came out and I was more disappointed then when I saw Jonah Hex. Man, does Megan Fox gets objectified in clunkers.
    Whoopie was in this? I forgot that. But then again she is far too extreme in her political views for me to take her seriously.

    • @ninjanibba4259
      @ninjanibba4259 Год назад +4

      What does her political views have anything to do with her acting?

    • @tvalokibatman6563
      @tvalokibatman6563 Год назад

      Didn’t Michael bay hate Megan fox?

  • @psychodrummer1567
    @psychodrummer1567 Год назад +3

    All I ever wanted was a "Biker Mice from Mars" movie - preferably with Jason Statham as Throttle, Vin Diesel as Vinnie and Dwayne Johnson as Modo. :-(

  • @dlwhdtjr100
    @dlwhdtjr100 Год назад +60

    Honestly, this is my guilty pleasure thing. Jokes are not bad, some action scenes were creative, especially snowy mountain chase scene. It's a good popcorn movie for me.

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles Год назад +11

      Yeah, I watched this in IMAX when I was 8, at the very least I enjoyed every single minute of it. The MC Mikey one was still hilarious for me, it fits Mikey's personality perfectly. Eventhough the story was a bit off, atleast they got the turtle's personality very right

    • @MANGLORIOUS
      @MANGLORIOUS Год назад +1

      CGI isn’t half bad either

    • @jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847
      @jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847 Год назад +1

      Hope you eat your popcorn without any doubts.
      Cause I doubt your honest opinion.

  • @kotm2021
    @kotm2021 Год назад +12

    I mean... it did warrant a sequel... but yeah, after that second one didn't make much money... yeah

  • @ghouldash9761
    @ghouldash9761 Год назад +19

    I remember watching these movies in theaters. If Michael Bay had taken a different approach to the TMNT movies, I can promise that they would have skyrocketed to success. Man, he should've gone back to the drawing board.

    • @RB01.10
      @RB01.10 10 месяцев назад

      The first one did well enough to get a sequel though the second one was the one that flopped.
      IMO the second one relied too heavily on nostalgia

  • @UnreasonableOpinions
    @UnreasonableOpinions Год назад +10

    It's amazing. TMNT started as a parody of Daredevil (absurd martial artists, the Hand gang becomes the Foot gang, etc.) but within a few years became so much more popular that it became and remained one of the biggest permanent franchises for decades. And yet with just a brief few films, this moronic set-up managed to tank the entire franchise at the exact moment a pretty solid series revived the Daredevil brand - if Marvel had been in a position to capitalise, they could have recaptured the lead again.

  • @mr.inhuman7932
    @mr.inhuman7932 Год назад +2

    Dude the transition to the ad was actually clean

  • @Pedro-er8px
    @Pedro-er8px Год назад +143

    I remember watching the two ninja turtles movies in theaters. They weren't really anything special, i thought they were just some good old fashioned dumb fun. The kind of movies where you can just turn off your brain and enjoy the pretty colors on screen.

    • @Bariom_dome
      @Bariom_dome Год назад +2

      I enjoyed them ,but not to the point where I'd watch again

    • @adisonnanet
      @adisonnanet Год назад +14

      After Multiverse of Madness, I've come to the conclusion that "movies that are just dumb fun, turn off your brain and watch it" are bad movies, but with people fond of them.

    • @vincentrodriguez4995
      @vincentrodriguez4995 Год назад +2

      Like the Venom Movies!😁

    • @alwaysxnever
      @alwaysxnever Год назад

      @@adisonnanet I'm glad you have come to this realization.

    • @takemeseriouslyplx2124
      @takemeseriouslyplx2124 Год назад

      @@adisonnanet Like every movie Netflix puts out nowdays

  • @rexcelsior5415
    @rexcelsior5415 Год назад +8

    So basically what I got from this video is “go watch the 1990 film.”

  • @Nic-with-the-Beard
    @Nic-with-the-Beard Год назад +19

    My favorite part in all these videos is when you are describing how the scene should have gone, over a scene from the movie that clearly shows they had the footage to do it right and still chose to screw everything up.

  • @hosannaamane6031
    @hosannaamane6031 Год назад +4

    The way you seamlessly tie your sponsor segment into the rest of the video goes to show how good of a writer you are. It's pure gold!

  • @LKYHGaming
    @LKYHGaming Год назад +6

    One of the sad truths to fans about this duology is the fact it will be what makes general audiences, myself included familiar about the ninja turtles and the massive franchise it is. That said though, the action sequences in these movies are insanely top notch that they might as well reached marvel movie action level.

  • @briannaapling495
    @briannaapling495 Год назад +10

    The way you're describing how the movie should have introduced the characters and important elements is pretty much how the 1990 movie did it

  • @minesimusic1447
    @minesimusic1447 Год назад +2

    Honestly the addition of the memes in the editing is actually really well done, I’ve only just noticed it but fair play :)

  • @ZefDavenport
    @ZefDavenport Год назад +2

    I made the terrible mistake of watching this while eating. Your use of sound effects and that 20th Century Fox theme is so on point it was constantly triggering my laugh every 10 seconds, nearly covering my screen in broccoli.
    Because of this, I'm going to check other videos you have made and subscribe, because gosh darnit, I needed a good laugh and a good review today. Thank you.

  • @BronzeMantis
    @BronzeMantis Год назад +18

    One theory suggests that Eric Sacks was actually Shredder that’s pretty convincing. Kind of wish they went with that idea.

    • @MinorityGamerReport1
      @MinorityGamerReport1 Год назад +11

      He was going to be Shredder. They did reshoots and dubbing to change it after fan backlash for not having him be Japanese.

    • @YunethAlwis
      @YunethAlwis Год назад

      @@MinorityGamerReport1 Now that you said that it makes sense as it was the beginning of the woke backlash back in 2014

    • @TheHmongol
      @TheHmongol Год назад

      He was supposed to be the shredder but got back lash by the fans so they inserted some random Japanese guy at the end.
      Sacks could of been the shredder had they said he grew up in Japan and it's culture...such an easy fix.

    • @MinorityGamerReport1
      @MinorityGamerReport1 Год назад

      @@YunethAlwis honestly, the movie has so many other issues that I don’t care either way. It’s cool if some people enjoyed it, but to me it was one of the worst written movies I’ve ever seen. I flat out hated it 😂

    • @YunethAlwis
      @YunethAlwis Год назад

      @@MinorityGamerReport1 Yeah, the Writing was so generic like rich guy like money. I loved the action tho, that was sweet if you turn your brain off.

  • @justinstoll4955
    @justinstoll4955 Год назад +2

    Filmento, your movie analyzes are some of the funniest up there with red letter media. And for whatever reason, I love the noise you play when people are dumping exposition or yada yadaing dialogue.

  • @Sweetstick
    @Sweetstick Год назад +1

    I remember back in the OG movie Raph meets April first & fought with Casey Jones cause he was always running off on his own being a bad ass. He's a loner and Raph has always been my fav out of all of them.

  • @DJDCBRRS3
    @DJDCBRRS3 Год назад +5

    I don't know what Meme Academy Filmento went to, but he clearly graduated with Dankest Honors

  • @asterthecrow
    @asterthecrow Год назад +5

    It amazes me how many adaptations miss the mark, like they had all the pieces and it could've been so good but somehow always end up floating in the cold heart of space.

    • @lainiwakura1776
      @lainiwakura1776 Год назад +1

      The original one from the 90s got it right.

  • @agent_bumblebee
    @agent_bumblebee Год назад +11

    I always wondered how you would make an analysis about the TMNT reboot.
    And you didn’t disappoint.

  • @icequeen52
    @icequeen52 Год назад +15

    Great video, really helped me understand why the movie wasn't a bigger thing. I'm really looking forward to your video on Thor: Love and Thunder, which I personally didn't think was as good as it could have been. Too much humour which overshadowed any serious elements, not enough exploration of character in the villain and the theme wasn't explored anywhere near as much as it should have been. Also the choices they made for the story arcs of both Jane and Thor were terrible. Thor's power level in the movie made no sense too, but that's more Marvel nerd stuff rather than film nerd stuff

  • @StriderStryker
    @StriderStryker Год назад +2

    The way he promotes an ad using TMNT is probably a big brain move.

  • @REELWORKS12923
    @REELWORKS12923 Год назад +16

    I actually liked the first transformers movie so this was a big disappointment for me.

  • @LeonardoKlotz
    @LeonardoKlotz Год назад +25

    DAVE GREEN had a lot more passion directing OUT OF THE SHADOWS than Jonathan Liebesman, who was just doing what he was paid to do, nothing more

  • @radiokaizo
    @radiokaizo Год назад +2

    Splinter: They're a accident.
    Michaelangelo: Thank you dad!

  • @Chase1.9
    @Chase1.9 Год назад +8

    At least they kept “Cowabunga!” in the movie. At least it has that. Great analysis video as always, Filmento!
    Also, what’s the music for part 3 of the video?

  • @roonkolos
    @roonkolos Год назад +8

    The biggest sin these movies did did was not having Casey Jones be played by John Morrison
    Take one look at him and you know what I mean

  • @violetbarnhart9430
    @violetbarnhart9430 Год назад +6

    Ever since I started watching your videos I have developed a great love for movies and now I can't stop analyzing everything I see
    THANK YOU so much! I think your videos have made progress as a writer and with some hope a future producer
    (With some hope I won't make as much mistakes as the failed movies and franchises lol)
    Please never stop making this videos

  • @ABeardedDad
    @ABeardedDad Год назад +1

    That segue at the end into your sponsor was such a boss move. Probably your best one yet.

  • @kalstonii
    @kalstonii Год назад +2

    Im old enough to remember the old ninja turtles movie…where they were first shown as anti-heroes then , through april oniell interacting with them, we see they are not “bad guys”…then a natural progression of explaining how they became anthropromorphids

  • @shadeblackwolf1508
    @shadeblackwolf1508 Год назад +3

    A fascinating part of the Shredder is that the wider world doesn't see the shredder. They see a filantropist.

  • @nicolacampos2720
    @nicolacampos2720 Год назад +3

    The writer should've watched TMNT 2: the Secret of the Ooze. That opening is perfect 😁

  • @markiangooley
    @markiangooley Год назад +1

    Disinterested means impartial. Use the word “uninterested,” which is the word you mean to use, except nobody uses it any more because “disinterested” sounds SO FREAKING COOL and so everyone uses it instead!

  • @ryanhodgson8676
    @ryanhodgson8676 Год назад +1

    Oh no, you got me again! I always try to spot when an Ad Read is coming. But I was like three charts in before I realized it! Your passion for sneaking ad reads into the video content is unrivaled.

  • @luisandrade2120
    @luisandrade2120 Год назад +4

    Hey Filmento, just like many of thr other comments in here, i really appreciate your videos, started watching recently and im loving all of it. Anyway, you sure keep going with these amazing videos. Have a nice day

  • @samfoster7691
    @samfoster7691 Год назад +3

    Hey man I love these videos one of the best YT out there keep em coming

  • @BradenYoung80
    @BradenYoung80 Год назад +1

    Your suggestions to repair this movie, when put together, literally describe the exact plot to the 90's TMNT movie.

  • @tomatozombie135
    @tomatozombie135 Год назад +2

    why was that sponsor transition so smooth

  • @pedropierre9594
    @pedropierre9594 Год назад +5

    Theyll never learn that when you watch a reboot, the more fleshed out the characters become the better the movie can be

  • @QCteamkill
    @QCteamkill Год назад +3

    I remember not liking the shape of the turtles heads. And it was enough for me to pass. To me this is what would have happened to the original Sonic movie without the reworks, basically.

  • @W0lfenstrike
    @W0lfenstrike Год назад +1

    I can't bring a more insightful opinion than what's already said in the comments, from pointing out that Filmento's suggestion for improving it is just describing the 1990 movie to a tee and how baffling it is to fuck up something with literal DECADES of source material, so I'll simply say one thing... That ad transition at the end was smooth as heck.

  • @averytherockgod9822
    @averytherockgod9822 Год назад +2

    It’s actually insane how this movie and the 2010s version of the TMNT show came out during the same time, yet the friggin cartoon show had more depth and was often way darker than this actual PG-13 movie that is supposed to be more “mature” but instead ended up feeling even more cartoony than the ACTUAL cartoon that was on TV at around the same time.

  • @icouldntthinkofagoodname7216
    @icouldntthinkofagoodname7216 Год назад +21

    We love our villains with their own nice character development. Take Thanos for example or maybe Ultron. They're not just bad for the sake of having a villain in the movie. If you spend a little bit of time and respect on them, their plans actually does make some sense. Thanos wants half the population to give more worth to the resources. Ultron wants to speed up the extinction of humans because well, were already on our way to do that. His plan is just less painful and what they call lesser of the two evil. Immediate death instead of living on a Nuclear Winter world.

  • @Zombiesnyder13
    @Zombiesnyder13 Год назад +7

    The second movie was so much better that it made me forget how bad the first one was

  • @Meerkat73
    @Meerkat73 Год назад +1

    Product placement at the end is pure art.

  • @space_prick
    @space_prick Год назад +1

    Im sorry, but that ad roll for brilliant is really really smart; like it flowed so well into the topic of the movie that its actually kinda genius and I appreciate that.

  • @davidm2862
    @davidm2862 Год назад +6

    I love your videos and would love for you to dive into why Top Gun: Maverick was successful as a legacy sequel.

  • @spinjitzumasterfalcon
    @spinjitzumasterfalcon Год назад +5

    At least Rise of the TMNT was able to pull off a great TMNT movie

  • @Ryan-lr9gw
    @Ryan-lr9gw Год назад +1

    This was the most flawless transition to the sponsor ad I’ve ever seen. He even ties it in to the videos topic. Bravo, sir! 😹👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @Hi-Im-Gib
    @Hi-Im-Gib Год назад

    That was probably THE SMOOTHEST ad transition I've EVER seen

  • @AlleyKatPr0
    @AlleyKatPr0 Год назад +3

    So - you failed to mention the similarity between the plot of this and, the plot of Mission Impossible 2.
    "They created a monster to defeat it?" "Why not..."

  • @oogwayoverthere6159
    @oogwayoverthere6159 Год назад +3

    Also, the CGI characters are just super unappealing to look at. Their misshapen heads, tiny eyes, huge mouths and detailed skin is really gross to look at. I think that adds to the general disengagement and disinterest in the TMNT. How are you supposed to care about your main characters if they are flatly characterized, apathetic introduced, and have no appeal in their design?

  • @modmaker7617
    @modmaker7617 Год назад +2

    Weird how Paramount made good Sonic movies but failed the TMNT & Transformers.

  • @nobodyjr8413
    @nobodyjr8413 Год назад +1

    13:50 this Angry Joe cameo is just gold😂

  • @gamerstheater1187
    @gamerstheater1187 Год назад +3

    I remember seeing this film when I was young, I was so happy to see this video

  • @biguy617
    @biguy617 Год назад +6

    Hopefully the next Ninja Turtles reboot will be good

  • @ironreed2654
    @ironreed2654 Год назад +2

    I just couldn't ever get over the 8 foot tall, 400lb version of the turtles, they range from like 4 foot 7 up to 5 foot 5 in the comics, original movies and cartoon.

  • @peoplebutter1408
    @peoplebutter1408 Год назад +1

    Dude you are simply amazing and the way you talk and break down the movies your editing all of it is simply amazing

  • @joshswenson8390
    @joshswenson8390 Год назад +2

    My main issues with the film were that Splinter mastered Ninjutsu from a book / Shredder had blades all over him but somehow avoids making anyone bleed in battle.

  • @grapesoda2207
    @grapesoda2207 Год назад +3

    The new TMNT movie is WAY better!! Everyone should check out Rise of the TMNT, super refreshing take on the turtles and crisp animation. Every fight looks like anime

  • @SuperSongbird21
    @SuperSongbird21 Год назад +1

    The crazy thing is, they originally wanted this to be an alien invasion movie, with the Turtles being four alien soldiers who switch sides after seeing how awesome Earth is. Then some of the script was leaked online and the fans were furious, so they had to rewrite.

  • @mitchspurlock3626
    @mitchspurlock3626 Год назад

    Great editing and fun meme inserts as always. TY braj!

  • @MP-nz2ub
    @MP-nz2ub Год назад +47

    If you want to fail at a classic franchise simply just hire Michael Bay

    • @Knuckles2761
      @Knuckles2761 Год назад +8

      First transformers was ok.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Год назад +3

      @@Knuckles2761 Transformers 3: Dark Of The Moon was also decent

    • @RATGODORIGINAL
      @RATGODORIGINAL Год назад +3

      All transformers were decent. For general public that is. Which is what those movies were aimed at.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Год назад

      Michael Bay is an odd person who really liked his cool stuff.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Год назад +2

      @@RATGODORIGINAL The first and 3rd are decent.
      2nd, third and 4th are AWFUL!