Birds of Prey - The Impostor Deadpool Jack Sparrow | Anatomy Of A Failure
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn Birds of Prey movie is the first DC film of the new decade, and by the quality of it it seems DC is up to its old habits a'la Suicide Squad/Batman v Supeman/Justice League. But the interesting thing about Birds of Prey's failure is that its pretty much a copy paste of other successful movies: Pirates of the Caribbean and Deadpool. The character of Harley Quinn is a straight ripoff of Johnny Depp's Captain Jack Sparrow, whereas the narrative and the wonky world of Birds of Prey is a straight ripoff of Ryan Reynolds' Deadpool. But despite copying cinematic greats, Birds of Prey still manages to fail, because it completely misses the point of what makes Pirates and Deadpool great. So, in today's episode of Anatomy of a Failure, lets see how that happened and how DC/DCEU looks once again to be taking a backseat to Marvel/MCU.
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Birds of Prey (2020)
Director Cathy Yan’s superhero action-drama is a spin-off of 2016’s “Suicide Squad”. It stars Margot Robbie, Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Ewan McGregor. After deciding to operate independently of the Joker, Harley Quinn (Robbie) teams up everything wrong with Birds of Prey cinemasins honest trailer Birds of Prey watch full movie online free Birds of Prey - It's a Garbage Movie Birds of Prey clip 4k hd Charlie's Angels how female obsession can ruin a film anatomy of a failure men in black international how to build a toxic hero Suicide squad one dc-sastrous scene with Margot Robbie, Christina Hodson Re-Team for New 'Pirates of the Caribbean' Movie for Disney Margot Robbie Pirates of the Caribbean Christina Hodson Pirates Margot Robbie lead new pirates of the caribbean movie Black Canary, Helena Bertinelli, and Renee Montoya to save a young girl from a contract killing that has been initiated by a brutal and narcissistic Gotham City crime lord (McGregor).
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Deadpool (2016)
In this irreverent spin on the superhero genre, mercenary Wade Wilson (Ryan Reynolds) agrees to participate in a top-secret experiment after learning that he has terminal cancer. When the procedure leaves him with advanced healing powers and a disfigured face, he reinvents himself as a wisecracking, spandex-clad antihero known as Deadpool, and seeks revenge on those responsible. Morena Baccarin, Ed Skrein, T.J. Miller, and Gina Carano co-star. Directed by Tim Miller.
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Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007)
Director Gore Verbinski and the crew set sail once again for this, the third chapter in the swashbuckling Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy. Captain Jack Sparrow (Johnny Depp) is hopelessly trapped in Davy Jones' locker after a harrowing encounter with the dreaded Kracken, and now Will Turner (Orlando Bloom) and Elizabeth Swann (Keira Knightley) must align themselves with the nefarious Captain Barbossa (Geoffrey Rush) if they hold out any hope of saving their old friend from a fate worse than death. The East India Trading Company and its fearsome leader, Lord Cutler Beckett (Tom Hollander), have taken control of the ghostly Flying Dutchman and its captain, Davy Jones (Bill Nighy), and now the baleful Admiral Norrington (Jack Davenport) has taken the helm in a relentless bid to destroy every pirate ship in his path and bring the Age of Piracy to a violent close. Meanwhile, Will, Elizabeth, and Captain Barbossa navigate treacherous waters and face bitter betrayal as they set sail to gather the only army that can stand up to Beckett -- The Nine Lords of the Brethren Court. But Captain Jack Sparrow is one of the lords, and as long as he's stuck in Davy Jones' locker, Beckett and his nefarious armada are sure to emerge victorious. There's still hope, however, if the heroic team that includes Tia Dalma (Naomie Harris), Pintel (Lee Arenberg), and Ragetti (Mackenzie Crook) can reach exotic Singapore and convince vulpine pirate Sao Feng (Chow Yun-Fat) to provide them with charts and a ship. But even the powerful Brethren Court may need a bit of help from volatile sea goddess Calypso in order to weather the coming storm. With the entire future of the pirate way at stake, everyone will be forced to choose sides while drifting precariously to the edge of the earth for one final, spectacular battle.
"You are without doubt the worst pirate I've ever heard of"
"ah but you HAVE heard of me"
love that line
For her he should have said, “You are no doubt the worst.”
It’s painful seeing the word “pirate” and “Heard” in the same sentence.
it looks like a monkey island's quote.
@@nont18411 why?
@@ratkeep Johnny Depp vs Amber Heard
Also making Harley dumb completely dismisses the fact that she is a psychologist with a PhD. So she should be able to outwit her enemies. Even being under Joker’s spell they needed to show what her value to him was.
She's been seen to use that to her advantage in every appearance though? Has she not?
To be fair there are plenty of people who don't have a full high school education that can successfully navigate the criminal world while well educated people are only their victims.
@@bobson3014 exactly.. But filmento Doesnt care much about Context.
I was thinking that too. Why make her a dumb drunk? Shes written like a teenager or something. :P
Thats what I don't get, show her brilliance. Some of the smartest people in the world are eccentric, DC could have easily played off of that. When she was tied up I was waiting for some crazy escape showing how she is always in charge but it turned into nothing.
So Harley Quinn trying to act like Deadpool? Meanwhile, Deadpool already went back to the DC Universe to stop Ryan Reynolds from reading the Green Lantern script.
Wait what.that did happened?
Makai Ridah it happened at the end of Deadpool 2
Makai Ridah watch the credit scene of Deadpool 2
So one was being an impostor the other doing the lords work
Ryan Reynolds regrets that stint as Green Lantern I see.
It's actually funny how many movies come out worse due to re-writes when the original script seems to be so much better
ikr
The re writes are because the studio want to market it worldwide, you can’t watch a direct reference to homosexuality in mainstream movies because some countries may freak out
@@giovanyzegarra1452 so they compromise and cheese everyone off. This is why comic book movies have a hard time working. They are pigeonholed in the comics for a particular demographic. They try to dilute this down to appeal to the lowest common denominator in movies.
DC darkness will always struggle here compared to marvel lightness. It's the edginess that gives DC it's flavor that they're trying to dilute.
It's curry without the heat. An unappetising bowl of slop....
I actually really liked the original script where Black Mask was trying to get the diamond because it had evidence that he was gay. It's a unique, personal villain motivation that it's actually refreshing. Most of the time people just write villains that they just want to be powerful or something (ala theatrical Birds of Prey). Black Mask's motivation is just to save his ass and stop people from people knowing he's gay.
@@giovanyzegarra1452 I thought the reason was that the movie would be attacked because the villain was insecure about it and some would see that as a bad thing, but yea maybe your right
Jack's whole thing was that he wasn't the main character of Pirates 1-3. Will and Elizabeth were always the protagonists and the stories were about them. Jack wasn't supposed to have a backstory. He was supposed to be there for his own reasons and his whole arc was him starting to go out of his way to help the main characters without ulterior motives.
My man.
Finally, someone who speaks English. Jack was always supposed to be the funny side character who was just there to support the main characters and his own shinnanigans were what made everyone attracted to him, honestly the perfect example of a near perfect character. Without Jack, pirates is doomed, and to hear that the people who made the are gonna make the new one is proof that the franchise is gonna die for good
Yes, exactly! 😭
Basically pirate Loki (original Loki, not Marvel)
Never knew this! I always thought he was the main character… in case you could tell I’m obviously a casual
I hate how they completely forgot that Harley is genius psychologist that was allowed access to the joker
not really, she had a lot of psychology-related scenes. You also forgot that she's a PSYCHIATRIST so your point is invalid.
John Cena Depending on the continuity she just slept her way to her degree. Most people don’t actually know or follow the continuity where she actually earns it (she supposedly even went to the same school as Bruce)
MsTriangle in the suicide squad is was their intention that she was manipulating everyone around her but they showed in very sloppy
Anthony Garner she probably did both
John Cena Did both in the movies or comics? Cause when she slept her way to her degree in the comics is expressly shown that she was failing her classes before getting the A.
Goddman dude, this video is going to be aging really well. Not only is Margot Robbie going to be cast in a new Pirates of the Carribean movie, but it's going to be the same writer who worked on this movie.
Oh Christ!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIknewitOOOOOOOOO
They gonna ruin the pirates of the Caribbean Franchise
@@Zer-Esy Didn't they already ruin it by doing too many?
@@num1Jaysta I mean..yes, but they " repair" that with the fifth movie, when all the magic ends so, that's the end of the franchise
"Not only do they give you a movie that doesn't work, but also they flip you off with the potential of what it cold have been..." Is the most accurate description of every DCEU movie to date. I hate you for saying it.
Not Shazam.
@nikolai 1939 nah shazam was actually pretty decent
Writer: *Makes a good script*
Warner Brothers: Okay, but what if we make it bad?
I hate him for being right about it
Wonder Woman, Shazam, Man Of Steel. Hardly a universal truth.
I’m actually super happy about how this movie turned out because it’s gonna give DeadPool 3 so much roasting material
Return of the Fabulous Killjoys omg, genius👍🏻I never saw it from that point of view. This comment is underrated
Well Deadpool is about to get the Disney treatment, so we won't be getting the same old style anymore
Making fun of a woman in Hollywood? Good luck
Giovanni Zanini that thing was not a woman, it was an abomination
@@NaotaFLCLi Wish they do
And i Wish they add in the disney castle cinematic right before showing deadpool shoving a Dude down a toilet while interrogating him about the baddie of the movie
My only note is that the chemical factory wasn't jokers headquarters, it was basically their first "date" location.
People keep thinking the movies are like the comics...in Marvel comics Hank Pym created Ultron not Stark it would be dumb if they chemical plant was a base it's to easy to find in reality
@@jasonbarkley4586 It would have been cool if Pym had made some earlier version of Ultron, or laid the groundwork for the first AI and then Tony based Jarvis on that.
@@VogtTD yeah marvel ficked up with that to Tony stark pym means nothing
@@VogtTD ppl think of pym oh you only made one invention a d it's really irritating unlike the comics
@@matthewstanley8295 I'm not against Ultron being made by Stark, it works within the context of the events of the MCU up to that point,. However I think trying that story back to Hank would have been a nice nod for the fans, and a simple mention of his name as the person who laid the groundwork of the tech would have been the perfect way to establish Pyms presence within the past of the MCU to set up his eventual appearance in Ant Man.
The crazy thing is that when DC did a Harley Quinn TV series on their streaming service they got everything right and told an incredible story.
Their animation is usually pretty great, but their live action is a bit lackluster. Marvel usually has the opposite issue.
Well, they aggressively forced lesbian romance to conquer all towards the end but until then it was good.
Captain Doomsday agreed 💯
And the characters are way likable than anyone on this movie. Never thought in my life I would ever see goofy Clayface and King Shark and sassier Poison Ivy without trying to be sexy and seductive like she always does. And the fact, they introduce Kiteman and Dr Psycho is actually good refreshment. But, I feel like the love triangle between Harley-Ivy-Kiteman is so unnecessary. And the fact that Season 2 shows how "Healthy Joker" looks like.
@@margarethmichelina5146 I mean, considering how hard Kiteman got discarded, they shouldn't have even bothered with him. If he was an obstacle to their agenda, why introduce him as a character?
The really sad part is the whole faux fool thing would actually be a great fit for harley. Maybe repaint it where she still perceives the world incorrectly, but she still makes intelligent capable decisions within her own perception. Just because a character is delusional doesn't mean they have to be a nonfunctional child
"When presenting herself as a dumb drunk" Dude this is the EXACT problem with Movie Harley Quinn! Harley is a GENIUS. She BUYS IN to Joker's fallacy that "Chaos is the only truth" and she's the only other human on Joker's level of understanding of that methodology. She PRESENTS herself as slutty bimbo moron because it gets her a massive edge over everyone else. She is in truth extremely capable and intelligent, but she plays The Fool and The Rake as characters to lessen her open threat. She's a terrific character in the cartoon and her later comic adaptations, but the movies all make her an ACTUAL Bimbo, or an ACTUAL dummy, and neither is her character.
Even When she wear slutty this have a point.She can use this for distruct heroes or others. But in dceu she is just a eyecandy without function.Even in Porn version Harley seduce Batman and poisened him.This means even porn version better than this.
@@TheJanissary90 The Problem is that the whole plot of NSFW Harley I seen was smart enough to even seduce Wonder Woman and superman at the same time
Even smart people can be dumb drunks.
İnsomnia
My man just exposed the type of porn he’s watching. Nice
I think Filmento's point was that she was never presenting herself as a dumb drunk, but just being one.
Remember, writers: when you write female characters, it's more emphasis on CHARACTER and less emphasis on FEMALE.
I don't understand why so many people are saying this. The movie didn't do that for any moment, the character's focus wasn't in being females (like in Charles' angels, from what I know), the problems of the movie were explained in the video, like excessive edition, not likeable characters or things like that. No one complaining about Batman vs Superman says that one of the problems was making the characters too focused in the masculinity.
@@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115 "If you don't watch this movie, you're sexist"
After the movie flopped:
"The movie failed because of mysoginistic men criticizing it"
Yeah, maybe if they didn't MARKET this movie as FEMINIST, maybe noone wouldsay shit like this.
@@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115 Also, noone talked about that Superman and Batman because this shit has been done by every franchise ever, it's over masculine, that's fine. Literally no man ever has complained that the Male heroes are too masculine, yet almost every feminist ever can't stop bitching that female heroes are over feminine.
@@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115 thank you! I see them doing it too, it's like they didn't watch the movie or breakdown.
Reaper Z erm yes they have, the whole reason we don’t have the classic overly masculine action hero nowadays is because it’s a pretty bland boring character and audiences have grown beyond that. We want flaws and depth in all characters. The problem some women led films make these days in removing the flaws and giving us more of the ‘toxic masculinity’ characteristics in them ironically. However as you saw in this video essay that isn’t the problem with this film and in fact the opposite, with one of the big problems being that they actually didn’t show her strengths/motivations enough and made a weak shell of a character.
If birds of prey was just a Harley Quinn movie about Harley Quinn on her own, this might’ve actually worked
I think a Birds of Prey movie without her might have worked too.
Hell to the no. No eye candy or comedy
I actually really enjoyed the idiotic stuff Harley did in the movie in the 1st act. Didn't like the other characters much.
it was one at first in pre pre production then margot pushed for more women and birds of prey in particular and dc had just lost cavil(kinda) and affleck(definitely) so they really couldnt afford to lose one of their other draws with robbie and cow towed to her thats why she's a writer and producer
i mean the poster already makes me confused, the Biggest title logo is "Birds of Prey" , the sub title has Harley Quinn with smaller font size, BUT, Harley Quinn's faces is bigger than the birds of prey themselves? Judging from the poster itself makes me confused. After watching the movie, i was right. Also that singing scene is very useless imo, im half asleep during that scenes.
Of course the greatest character of the movie is Kenobi.
He acts his butt off for this role and that’s why I believe it works
He always has the High ground
Well, hello there.
You are a bold one
@@BigPuddin General Kenobi
I vote sandwich for the best character in the movie.
My dream is to have that damn sandwich when I visit the US.
I voted for the coin on the ground
@@Hewhois82 Are they setting him up to become Two-Face's coin in a sequel?
@@josegregoriobencomogomez4958 maybe. We have to wait and see. I did hear however that the coin might not be in the next movie
@@Hewhois82 Damn, don't tell me that.
Meanwhile the in the animated Harley Quinn show, Harley actually has a real motivation. She doesn't want to eat a sandwich, she wants to become a great stand alone villain on her own, join the Legion of Doom and get a worthy arch nemesis.
I love that show!
@@underaminutewalkingvideos7349 Speak for yourself. Sandwiches are bomb 😎🖕.
I'm a ''I'm not a kid I don't watch cartoons'' kind of guy. I bit the bullet and watched it. It's fucking awesome! Why DC doesn't make movies like this??
Marcin Widz you should see their animated movies
@Azal 423 the live action shows on the other hand...
Birds of prey, also known as Pirates of the Pool
So that's it? What, we some kinda dead suicide bird pirates?
Lol
I don't get how this is related to pirates of the caribbean like at all... but okay XD whatever people are weird they like to always downplay certain characters specially female if they get a chance and comparing to johnny depp is a little uhm too much XD specially jack sparrow I honestly think they are two dif characters and that's that.
This is quite poetic
pirates of the pancreas, because id need that organ cut out of me if i was actually gona laugh at this movie
this movie should have been about harley and harley only especially considering how in the comics (prior to this movie coming out) she never associated with the birds, quite the contrary she was a rival and had her own gang the gotham city sirens
This movie NEVER should've been in the first place! NOBODY gives a shit about Harley Quinb or a forced all female "superhero" movie. Seriously, NOBODY gives a shit about her.
The studio is run by fucking morons. They would've been better off making a Deadshot movie, or a Rick Flag movie, or an Enchantress movie. Harley Quinn is not good enough to be a solo lead. Plus they went on and woke casted a bunch of those BoP characters. Dina Lance being a black chick, Cassandra Cain being some chubby asian girl etc etc. None of them look like actual heroes. It's fucking stupid. They should've cast Katheryn Winnick as Dina Lance
@@PermanentHigh You made some points that I definitely agree with here, but imma have to disagree with people not liking Harley. Over the years Harley has become a popular villain among the younger generation of DC fans including myself. But Yess Harley isn’t that good of a character to have a stand alone Film surrounding her, she’s always been a sidekick to the Joker because im pretty sure that’s how we got to know her
@@xolqi3394 You're part of a very small minority. Nobody cares about her, and she's not interesting enough of a character to warrant a solo movie.
Enchantress has far better character design and potential.
@@PermanentHigh who the fuck is Enchantress?
How are you going to say Harley Quinn, literally one of the best known, best loved, iconic characters from the Batman Universe, isn't cared about?
You're literally just invalidating your own opinion.
@@twojointsjay7330 She's not good enough as a solo character. She's not interesting. She's a sidekick at best. It's why her movie flopped. Nobody fucking cares about Harley Quinn. Face it. They keep trying to force her in people's faces, but nobody cares. She's not interesting in the least bit. She's wack.
Enchantress at least has cool powers and a cool backstory. Cara Delevigne was Enchantress in Suicide Squad. DC should've developed HER more.
If you want good female characters, do what Jrr Martin did: write good characters, then make them women.
Any time “being a women” is their main feature, it likely won’t work. There are no good male characters based on “well, they are a man.”
He-Man (Joking of course, couldn't resist)
Chuck Norris. Jk jk he is just god.
that's also what happened for Ripley in Alien and for Lara Croft. I agree 100% , the problem is the bias , they intended to do a feminist movie very hard (witch is a total turn of for me "look how feminist we are , booo bad men , booo" ), but they just made a huge pile of sexism and condescending .
Harley is a good character
@@Fierra2000 Good joke. Its been a while since I laughed so hard.
I instantly hate the movie when the ads kept saying
“Cause I’m Harley freaking Quinn”
Honestly though
Cause Shes Harley freaking Quinn
jen ru you don’t hear Batman going around saying
Because I’m Bruce freaking Wayne
@@aakk3619 hahaha imagine bruce saying that lol
AA Kk *_BECAUSE I’M BATMAN_*
Moral of the story: they should've just made a Harley Quinn movie and saved Birds of Prey for another time.
Edit: Thanks for the interactions guys 😊
The movie was renamed as Harley Quinn: Birds of Prey.
So this is a Harley Quinn movie... 🤔
Or they should have made Harley Quinn a side character and make The Birds of Prey the main focus.
100%. And a ton of her character choices and actions are based and driven around the actions of the Joker and that just goes unresolved and he never shows up, it's like one act of another movie just plopped in this one.
Sounds about right.
That sum's it up. Also the marketing was clearly pushing an agenda that most superhero audience, males, are not going to support. Funny how a female empowerment movie of Harley Quinn was easily bested by a deep character study of the Joker.
I reeeaallllyyyyy hope the new batman movie won't be as bad
DC really likes casting incredible actors for terrible movies
That because WB always trying to interfree with the script, tone of the movie, etc.
@@smharyanto4660 we'll see if that statement holds up when the Snyder cut comes out meet me back here soon
Well given that Matt Reeves of all people is directing the movie, I have a lot of faith in The Batman.
@@Notjacobsilvestri WB had nothing to do with the Snyder Cut. They axed it, then hid it and buried it to keep the fact that they fucked up a brilliant film from coming to life. Then in 2018 AT&T bought their shitty little studio, and twisted their arm into giving Zack another $30M and later $70M to finish the VFX and release it.
And to nobody's surprise, it's the best DCEU film, and among the best DC films.
@@TheStraightestWhitest best DCEU movies? Probably. Best DC movies? Nowhere near. Snyder cut still have a lot of flaws. DC have lot of better movies above JLZS for example Batman Nolan and Joaquin Joker
There's also another important part to the Sparrow/Deadpool aspect here. In there respective series, those two are the only ones who are crazy. Jack Sparrow had Will and Elizabeth to be normal people to amplify just how bizarre Jack was, but also to keep things ground and prove that he was the weird one. Same thing with Deadpool. He's surrounded by normal villains and straight laced X-Men, but he himself is basically insane.
Birds of Prey doesn't have that. They all suck and Harley sucks just as much as anyone else.
That's also a pretty good point, the other movies show they're more... odd than the average person by having an average person being with them, which may also lead to conflicts between their ideas, the way they perceive the world, and such.
@@Mike14264 I think part of it is also that there is more to Deadpool and Jack Sparrow than just being crazy. Jack Sparrow may be crazy, but he's also intelligent and very strategic in everything he does. Deadpool maybe in saying, but use also fiercely loyal and empathetic to those he cares about.
@@raptoid2518 yeah, they're not 1-dimensional, they're more complex than just being oddball characters with dumb luck on their side. Harley is just a quirky character with dumb luck on her side.
@@Mike14264 Exactly. It could also be debated that Jack Sparrow purposefully acts like an idiot to catch people off guard. That it's a way of showing him to be cunning. They make reference to that with the ongoing joke of him being either the best or worst pirate that different characters have ever seen. Deadpool is closer to how she acts with him being quirky and funny more often than not, but that also works because they never try to push the movie as anything more than just a fun superhero movie to watch. Deadpool set out to be fun popcorn entertainment and ends up being an extremely enjoyable movie to watch because of it. This movie tries to follow Deadpool's formula but also wants to be taken seriously for social messages brought up within. It doesn't know what it is and instead copies other movies and characters to make up for that.
Yup
I just wanted a movie with Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy.
Harley shows Ivy how to be human, and Ivy shows Harley how to have a spine. They are BFFs because they work better together. This movie does not work.
They are married
@@efeutee4715 "Kiteman: Hell Yeah"
That's the animated series buddy
Add Catwoman into the mix and you got Gotham City Sirens.
@@mar10ssj1 Kitemanhellyeah!
I just hate when they take decent villains and down play their abilities to favor the protagonist. Making Victor Zsasz a boot licker who is easily disposed of and Black Mask an over emotional man who never shows why he's in charge in the first place was just disrespectful. Dude put on his mask finally at the end, drives to the fight, drives away from the fight gets his mask taken off by a child and dies. Why the hell was anyone afraid of this guy.
finally someone who shares my thoughts, people keep saying the villian was great. but i just dont see it, there is literally nothing threatening about him
Gotham did zsasz right, change my mind
Yeah, fuck this movie. Black Mask is such a badass, an old school gangster in every sense of the word, and they turn him into some worthless, flamboyant douche. Literally everything about the way he's portrayed is a disgrace to his name and character. There's no way I was going to ever watch this movie anyways, but yeah, now I'd just burn it if I ever saw a copy lying around.
I don't know much about Zsasz, but I really liked how he was in the Gotham tv show, reminds of a funnier version of Agent 47, I really liked him.
@@jacobbenns6090 no I definitely agree, I typed my comment before I read yours, he was awesome in that show.
The funny thing is that Harley Quinn as a character is Very Smart and Athletic and knows martial arts.
but in this movie, but they craped all over that.
Ikr! It's literally in her name: Harley Quinn, which comes from Harlequin: a character from _commedia dell'arte_ that pretends to be forgetful and silly while actually being extremely astute, witty and agile on his feet. It's the kind of character that even if you managed to capture him, you'd have to go through hell to keep him locked up.
Same thing with Harley. Her overall personality is that she does get the short end of the sticks sometimes, but you better believe it that she ain't gonna play the _damsel in distress_ game and that you WILL get your ass kicked. It's like trying to catch lightning in a bottle.
Well this Harley kicks ass in combat so: martial arts - check
Aaaaand the move is still worse than it should have been
I agree Margot put A LOT of time and effort into learning the skills to perform kicks and flips like we see in suicide squad and its a shame we don’t see a lot of it here. Btw I love crapes
No they didn't,she adapted to every situation well. And the fights were awesome.
@@dusathemaid Actually, this Harley DOESN'T kick ass in combat. Yes, she wins every fight she's in, but it's yet another example of where this movie took shortcuts. The actresses VERY OBVIOUSLY don't know how to fight in the slightest degree and the stuntmen are directed to act as if each blow strikes with the force of ten men, even if it's from six feet away and can't possibly hit. Even for the first Charlie's Angel's reboot (the semi-good one) the actresses trained for literally three months straight. It's obvious in this movie they were just told to act tough and win. So instead of giving the impression that she's a keen and slippery fighter, we just come to understand that all women are strong and all men are pathetic. It doesn't work, like so many other things.
The "Why not? Because I'm a girl?" trope ruins the attempt at elevating the strength of women characters. If the story is constantly hounding on the fact that the character is female, the audience automatically goes into eye-roll mode.
Eye roll mode lol
aRe YOu TryING to MAnSpLAiN to mE?!
Edit: And if you're a woman, I was just joking.
@@XanthosAcanthus No worries dude lol
Rachel Torres your name reminded me of the half from Torrestravels.
@@ytht21 Lol I've never heard of that. What is it?
The PTSD from Dead Men Tell No Tales' Jack is relatable.
Same
Why would he have PTSD? Nothing from the 4th film led to that.
@@ferran273 they're referring to the PTSD the viewers endured
@@PootNewt Thanks for clarifying
Dead men tell no tales was fine. 🙄 bandwagon cinema snobs always crying
the show "Harley Quinn" got the character right.
It's like the movie forgot she's actually smart. She's a psychiatrist.
Great show actually I was surprised.
THE WHITE KNIGHT show me the morty
@@THEWHITEKNIGHT bro you know you can just disagree, right? Everyone has different tastes. We won't judge you for liking the movie, I personally loved Sharkboy and Lavagirl and that movie is ass. Don't take offense because someone disagrees with you. :\
And as for him being a Marvel puppet, it's general consensus that Marvel makes significantly better movies than DC, it's just how things are. You can disagree, and that's ok.
@@Insidelemon still not better than Dark Knight. Marvel has no guts to make movie like Dark Knight.
Shes Dr Quinn forgot her medicine woman.
That sandwich was the most moving heartbreaking scene in a movie I have seen all year...
It breaks the main rule of movies: *Show, don't tell.*
Stupid explanatory voice-overs and dialogue seem to be all over DC movies.
YALL JUST BITTER CUZ THE MEN OF DC COULD'NT MAKE A GOOD MOVIE!
theres also voice over in deadpool
@Ali Saurus so voice over is only stupid if dc does it
@@LOLimalexx it's only stupid when the character doing the voice over is stupid but trying to act cool. Deadpool is stupid, but he knows that, the movie knows that and the audience knows that.
THB Nam how is Harley trying to act cool in this movie? She’s crazy as fuck throughout lol. What? She didn’t make enough jokes about masturbation and sexy like a 12 year old? Or she didn’t randomly drop movie references(in the hopes that anyone would even remotely consider that to be a joke)?
Isn’t it crazy how Ewan McGregor is always they best part about bad movies.
surfitlive WhatCulture made a video about that the other day
It’s proper british acting. Can make anything work.
@@hanniffydinn6019 wtf are you talking about neither McGregor or Evans are British
Gene Kim McGregor is Scottish aka British you are right with Chris Evans though
Gene Kim stop being dumb I obviously mean british isles, nobody in U.K. thinks Scottish are a separate county dumbass, not even the Scottish! They are trained Shakespearean actors living in London. So stop with the Scottish, Irish , Welsh bullshit, they all live and were trained in London! So they are literally british. 🤯 they wouldn’t be seen dead in Scotland .....
Harley Quinn doesn't even have medium awareness so it makes no sense for her to break the 4th wall. Deadpool has medium awareness so it makes sense for him to break the 4th wall as it is an actual ability he possesses and not just a writing tool for the movie.
Excuse me for being a dumb-dumb
But what do you mean by medium awareness in this case?
@@raj4myo Deadpool knows he's fictional so he use to break the 4 wall and use it as advantage. But Harley don't know that.
@@raj4myo Deadpool possesses medium awareness as a superpower. He's fully aware that he is a fictional character in a fictional universe. It allows him to break the 4th wall, skip ahead in the story to see what's gonna happen and even rewrite parts of the story sometimes. There was even an instance at the end of Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe where he hopes out of the story, kills the writers, then looks through the 4th wall directly at the reader and says "I'm coming for you next.". You're not dumb-dumb. I'm just a Deadpool nerd.😁👍
Oh ... Thanks for the explanation guys.
Now that makes so much sense!
So it's not just a comic gag.
Sure helps me understand the character much better.
@@raj4myo I would have liked a Harley Quinn movie done like Joker.
What made Jack Sparrow great for me was that he was not the main character, that role went to Will and Elizabeth. He just existed within the story and involved himself in the main narrative to his advantage whenever necessary to get what he wants, then abandoned it again.
Making him the main character took away all of his charm and why he stood out so much in the first place, Harly Quinn was Sparrow as the main character.
making jack the main like in the trash 4th film and the dissaponting 5th film
They couldn't make him officially gay in the Movie, cause China would've never allowed that in their cinemas..
I actually thought the film did a good job of portraying a male friendship that didn’t shy away from showing some intimacy, like so many films do to the point where we need the term “no homo” in the same sentence as “I love you, man” without breaking masculinity laws. And then I found out it was supposed to be a gay relationship and I immediately went “of course”. Ugh.
They could have just make a China cut a leave the more realistic and in tone version for the rest of the world.
Movie says Chinese restaurant guy is Taiwanese. I wonder if they changed that for the Chinese version.
No, they didn't made him gay because the Western leftists would attack the movie since he's ashamed of being gay etc.
Thanks Obama. No, China! Thanks China! China is the excuse for everything nowadays, it's the current year.
@@chrismorris5321 Huh? Say again
I mean, just look at the promotional material, almost everything is focused on Harley Quinn, but the title is Birds Of Prey. That's when seed of doubt starting to grow in me
Seed was a very wisely chosen word when the movie is called Birds...
This movie was renamed as Harley Quinn: Birds of Prey. That makes sense
Yea but....couldnt they just made a stand alone harely film? For fuck sakes man, who is calling the shots so we can replace them.
@@amalka_ari officially no, it's just the theater's doing
@@Cinna3unnz Apparently there's a rumour that Margot actually wanted to do a solo Harley movie but WB told her no so they gave her the options of 'Birds of Prey' or 'Gotham City Sirens' and she chose BOP because if she had have picked GCS Margot was afraid of potentially being outshined by whoever got cast in the iconic roles of Poison Ivy and Catwoman.
How many movie failure's will it take for studios to realize that having a femme fatal theme/character does not make your movie automatically successful.
@TheVirusSoftware I'm talking generally.
It Makes The "Fanbase" Extremely Toxic
@@zambiekiller360so true. honestly this whole "female empowerment" shit that's shoved down the throat of every movie these days serves as nothing but bait for women to praise it on twitter. its honestly useless and stupid especially since this whole "girl power" thing is outdated in western society, women aren't oppressed in America so when a generation of girls who aren't even oppressed are basically
told that they are superior they'll start acting like they are. What i'm trying to say is why is Hollywood putting millions of dollars into female superiority propaganda that will reach an audience of women who aren't even oppressed? and if you think im overexaggerating here's an actual phrase from the Hollywood movie Charlie's angels "its actually considered an advantage to be a women" imagine hearing that as a girl. and now that I think about it why don't men deserve "empowerment" we all go through sexism believe it or not. It's honestly just stupid, and a disgusting way to get people to watch your movie.
he he true
Hannah was good
@@hehe-sy7vt one of the best comments I have ever read.
im so glad a movie about a blue alien hedgehog did better than birdpool
Birdpoo*
This comment right here. I love this haha
You mean the loveable blue hedgehog?
Almost as if people like being listened to
So you saying instead becoming Jack Sparrow, she became Jar Jar Binks.
KiNA Suki jar jar binks is no accidental clown
Jar Jar is the key
Carlos Harley wishes she was jar jar
Jar jar is no clown
Jar jar is the key
No. Jar jar is pretending to be dumb. He is indeed a force user but it is not known if he is a sith or a jedi.
KiNA Suki yup 😆😂🤣
Say what u want about Jar Jar. But at least he had a personality of some kind. Harley is just a lucky nimrod who has everything handed to her!
I actually liked the portrayal of Huntress. She's a woman with a tragic past; she lost her entire family during childhood and since then had trained to become a highly skilled fighter and seek vengeance on those who murdered her family. However, because she was so preoccupied with that, she lacks the right social skills. This is proven when she loses her composure in front of Harley and others when trying to sound tough. She even awkwardly practices her own badass one liners in the mirror. It's quite interesting seeing a strong, determined woman be sort of the awkward one in a group. It's something different that just didn't get enough screentime.
So kinda like Endevour form My Hero Aka. tough, brutal, scary exterior covering awkward personality not fitting in.
I loved huntress in this 😢
YOU SIR ARE SAFE!
She is Ramona as well
I also loved her
It really pisses me off that we finally got the right actress to play the live-action Harley, she does a great job, and the scripts are completely unworthy of all her effort. Knowing this doesn't make it better, it just means we blame the right people now.
Blame the actress Margott shes the one who chose a director who doesn't have much credibility because she wanted to give a women a chance to direct and a writer who has temper tantrum's on twitter
@@Ilovegrunge123 Which makes the whole thing even sadder. Margot is a phenomenal actress who could portray the shit out of an actually interesting interpretation of Harley, but all she cared about was a dumb genderflipped action film. She shouldn’t have to rely on herself to get her to her full potential, and she should definitely be above working with an agenda. If she respects her own talents and this amazing character she’s portraying, she could do a hell of a lot better than this.
@Mark Just shows how small minded you are
I guess we can all agree that DC is trash, and it tries soooo hard to be Marvel, but fails every single time... They should stick with making Joaquin Phoenix's Joker movies, because that's basically the ONLY thing they got going on.
She sure as fuck ismt the right actress
4:00 That cat having flashing epileptic exorcism ceasures has me gone... 💀💀💀💀💀😂😂😂😂😂
Same, omg! 🤣 And it was somehow the best accompaniment to those painful reminders of how they deteriorated Jack Sparrow... 😭
I find it hilarious that you labeled her character a Captain Jack type and now she's in talks to be in Pirates of the Caribbean.
They have to be watching the RUclips videos and stealing ideas on a daily basis.
@@julianmarco4185 Disney's heard of Filmento? C'mon!
@@davidjames579 50% of Filmento's subscribers are Hollywood folks, that's for sure
@@glebbokhan9777 How do you know?
Waiting for James bond and pirates of the carrebian. It's gonna be real bad. Lol
The sad thing is in the Animated DC Movies involving Harley Quinn, she's extremely witty, capable and a skilled fighter. Where in the DC Live action, she's portrayed as careless, arrogant, full of dumb luck, and is bad just because she's bad. She's very 1 dimensional in Live action so far. Her Animated and Comic Book counterparts, are much better!
She's so different from suicide squad Harley the actress even changed the voice. I feel like they could have worked with suicide squad Harley and tweaked the character a bit instead of changing it so much where its seems like its two different characters. I wonder if she will go back to acting like she did in the first suicide squad for the second movie or act like captain Jack sparrow. And you gotta love how a character who laughed of a guy hitting a women cause she talked to much in suicide squad to all of the sudden a feminist icon in this movie.
@@Ilovegrunge123 I don't think shes gonna change back, im pretty sure the point was that she was different without the joker
I agree but in comics she relies on her luck A LOT. And does dumb things just for the sake of it.
Yea true
Because you fail to grasp nuance of her character does not mean the film failed. Your brain failed.
an r-rated movie made to inspire little girls
... brilliant
Don't hold too much stock into ratings. i grew up in the 90s in the era where ratings were becoming a thing more. And many of the movies with guns, muscles and tits did inspire me. Different elements all rolled into a thought. Men should be strong. Men should perceive. men should be aggresive. Men should understand and learn from their mistakes...romance movies and such. And men can blow off steam and just have fun.
This movie was a "blow off steam, say fuck it and have fun" type of movie. ..and it has a female lead. Who would have an easier time relating to that character? Males or females?
Nothing hard to understand there
@@agonleed3841 real females dont relate to this bullcrap. I read your little diatribe. Its crap. "Blow off steam" movie? Vicariously through aggression... Like men? What type of joke-life do you live in? Humans in general either learn or dont learn from their mistakes... Fuuking up in life doesnt have a gender bias..... Dam are you practicing your typing? Im furious i let my eyes touch your idiocy.
@@underaminutewalkingvideos7349 you know what im gonna say.
@@agonleed3841 if your movie is r-rated, you're going to have less kids watching it. it's a basic fact.
@@agonleed3841 After leaving the theatre, I basically described it as “Rambo for Women.” My Mom loved this movie and I hated it and worried it would teach her “toxic femininity”-basically a role-reversal of when my Dad or I would take her to a very masculine movie. Most of my problems with this movie have more to do with the storytelling-if women want a “woman good, man bad” movie, why not give it to them, so long as they’re not under the delusion that I’ll enjoy it too.
the annoying thing about Harley being an idiot is that she wasnt always one. She literally used to be a psychologist and in the OG comics she had some level of wit and intelligence she used to be a witty trickster and it baffles me how she isnt today
Ewan McGregor before Birds of Prey: I promise I won’t get political.
Ewan McGregor after Birds of Prey: Chancellor Palpatine is evil!
because he's a white man!! and nothing else, galaxy conqueror, meh
Before: my allegencies is to the republic, to democracy!!
...only sith deals with absolute
After: *i own the town*
*well then you are lost*
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
I feel so bad for him.
in this feminist movie, the best character is a white male billionaire, who hates his family. ironic
Did you know the tragedy of Darth Hollywood the SJW?
if the protagonist was a man you wouldnt be saying that
Ivan Jones Yes, because it wouldn't be a female lead movie then, thus no irony.
Christian Cinnabars incel 100
@@ivanjones2433 Incel just has to be the weakest insult there is. Also you can't comprehend a point even if it's smashed in your face can't you?
Can't see the forest because there's trees in the way, but people pointing that out don't have sex -> your "logic"
The first pirates of the carribbean movie is legitimately a classic.
So are 2/3
Irritating Films 2 is my fav because of this line:
“I GOT A JAR OF DIRT”
The first trilogy is amazing. The next movies are just cash grabs.
@TheVirusSoftware I mean sure to an extent but there's some places where Chest is considered the best in the series or trilogy, same goes for World's End.
It's not just exclusively Black Pearl, I love it though.
At least you addressed him as Captain Jack.
He will kill mera
It could been a good movie if they showed the abusive relationship of Harley Quinn and the Joker, which leads to the break up and than makes her fight against the Joker or Batman together with Catwoman and Poison Ivy.
I mean if it plays shortly after Suicide Squad the Break up doesn’t make sense since Joker breaks Harley free, kills people who insults her and shows affection to her. Also Suicide Squads Harley Quinn is introduced as one of the murderers of Robin, so why doesn’t she just kill the girl?
Harley: I always used ta think my life was a comedy, but now I see it's a tragedy.
I hate how they forced “Birds of Prey” in the title. Black canary and bargirl started the group. I don’t see how Harley Quinn has anything to do with this. I hate the DC movies so much
@Empowered Vagina Meanwhile us MCU fans are going to laugh at how bad the DC films are.
@Empowered Vagina Where do you even get a MCU appeal out of this?
Bruh, Avengers wasn't formed with Captain America and Black Widow as founders, but no one complains about that... it's just what happens.
Harley wasn't even supposed to be a member of the Birds of Prey in this.
The whole movie title is "Birds Of Prey and The Fantabulous Emancipation of Harley Quinn". And also as you can see from the movie Harley isn't a member of the group.
meanwhile the GotG movie none of the main characters were founding members until the actual founding members made cameo in Vol. 2 when they kicked Yondu out.... no origin film is comic accurate but when DC does it, that's not ok!
It's absolutely genius how you find flaws just by understanding plot & character structure. I've learned watching these 15 minute videos than multiple screenwriting courses.
Me to Filmento as Dr. Strange to the Ancient One: "Teach Me!"
Hahaha
My advice:
Just watch the Harley Quinn animated series on the DC streaming service.
Or any DC animation for that matter. They rock, all of them!
That's one of the best animated TV shows I've ever seen! Avatar The Last Airbender and Castlevania are right up there as well. Holy Shit, what a great TV show.
@@daviddamasceno6063 dcamu doesnt
Lol I literally just finished it and I could really see a large difference
But, but, Margot Robbie!
So they only wrote the male character well in this female-led film. Smashing.
And they realized that... so they changed the ending.
And they took away the interesting part.
It's funny that within PC culture, straight white man are the only character you can make interesting, because they're the only one you can have some artistic freedom with.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed Harley Quinn comes off as an utter moron in the DCEU. Even though she's supposed to be super intelligent and highly educated.
Dude she is dumb as hell, Although she can be utterly intelligent if she intends to be. thats the version that we grew up enjoying
The audience is Harley Quinn and the potential was the sandwich. We were so close but ultimately we watched as it splatted on the ground.
Ewan: *plays a gay character*
Prequel memers: ah, victory
What movie are you talking about
@@str713gzr the Star Wars prequels
@@omnissiah7859 yep
YALL JUST BITTER CUZ THE MEN OF DC COULD'NT MAKE A GOOD MOVIE!
@@Bea-fc4sn Neither could the women, apparently. Except WW. WW was alright, though it sucks that she doesn't learn a damned thing because her initial philosophy of "kill the god and the war stops" was apparently the correct action despite all evidence to the contrary.
margot as harley is such wasted potential. these writers are so disconnected from the fans and source material. if yall are harley fans i recommend watching the show instead
The show is so good 😍
To be fair, this is DC. Disconnected from fans and source material is far from the only problem--hell it's far from the biggest problem. They're also disconnected with decent screenwriting and movie structuring.
@@shinnyshin7792 they should stick to their animated movies and shows . They are amazing at that
Also Joker but that was an exception
@@sophiecooper3624 To be fair, I thought Joker was really weakly written & structured--and also had nothing to do with the source material, but that's a separate issue from quality. It was carried single-handedly by the lead actor's performance, which was amazing and the sole reason the movie was good.
@@jakelee7083 That's fair. Perhaps a rephrase is in order--I thought it was really weakly written and structured *for the company it was placed in*. Compared to your average movie, it was fine. But it got a best picture nomination and a lot of people favored it to win (mostly internet people). I thought its writing was nowhere near what's expected at that level.
Hearing Margot Robbie and Ewan McGregor use terms like "patriarchy," "everyday misogyny," and "male gaze" unironically in interviews made me give this one a hard pass.
Glad to see that was a wise decision.
He simp and cheated on his wife for the actress in this movie lol
Oh no we have to put taboo on words that make men look bad!
If Black Panther can portray white people properly and put character first then race second, why can't this movie? Then again, I may have to watch this to c if it's as bad as this review shows this.
@@jge8144 Meh, just wait till there's clips on RUclips or rent it at best for $3.99.
At best it'll just be background noise in your home buring electricity either way.
@@darkpaw1522 lol!
I love Harley. And I’m in a minority where I’d prefer Harley to lean less like an anti hero or overall goody guy and more like season 1 of the Harley Quinn tv series where she wanted to become the biggest baddest villain of them all taking out all of the bad guys. But even as a fan of hers I also wasn’t crazy about the movie. Why did everything in the movie center on women = good...men = bad. Did every guy in the movie have to be a jerk?
"emancipation of Harley" right there in the title. Sorry, they were gonna fuck it up. I wanted to see what you're saying, but we got this idiotic bullshit instead.
I'd like to imagine the show took some of this movie's ideas and made them work
I recently saw this movie with my mom and she also noticed all the men were bad guys, I didnt notice that until she mentioned it. She liked it but wouldn't watch it again
I swear, fans need to start writing these movies cuz they can come out so much better and small details wouldn’t get overlooked
2:07 please stop DeadPool with Harley Quinn's voice is disturbing
It hurts my brain... JUST LIKE BIRDS OF PRAY
I don't think you actually could stop Deadpool by using Harley Quinn's voice, but, you're right, the very idea is disturbing.
@@viddork ah, I see you are a man of grammatical culture
Nah, I'm just a big fan of punctuation.
Yep.....i didn't like that
Funny how the best character is the movie was still a godawful adaptation of the character he was based on. The real Roman would have walked all over this little piss ant because the real Roman is confident and has nothing to prove to anyone. He wouldn't care about gay photos being leaked because he's Black Mask, and anyone who would think less of him for that would wake up surrounded by the corpses of their slaughtered family while tied to a bed in their home while it burned to the ground.
Also, did it bother anyone else that this movie killed off two major Gotham Villains? Both Zsasz and Black Mask are just dead now. Because of this movie. -.-
DC could've done soo much better
I mean if the motivation for Black Mask was his lack of confidence this would've been at least kinda characterish. Instead of :"yeah cash money". Never watched the movie and probably never gonna do it but this would be great characterization.
Tô be honest, I think the movie was fine. The thing is, the interpretation of the male villain characters are actually more accurate to how a narcissist would be. Not that , crazy, cool, bad ass, no fault BS. Honestly say what you want, but I had more interest watching this movie than any overpowered superhero CGI sequence.
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 agree
Nah , I think _DC_ Will get those Villains Back just Like They Did With *Zod*
Jack Sparrow is like the drunken master kung fu fighter. Harley Quinn is just a drunken club girl.
I would've liked this movie a lot more if it put full focus on its premise (harley dickin' around in Gotham city), and executed it in a way that made it feel like you were trapped in a joyride with a heavily drugged hippie
@@itzmrinyy7484 ...with Rob Zombie directing? :-)
What’s weird though is the Harley Quinn animated series DC is streaming handles the character so much better. Her personality is more intelligent and witty then it is just plain insane and erratic. You also get a deeper look into Harley and Joker’s relationship and see how it deteriorated.
It feels like Birds Of Prey is a bootleg copy of DC’s OWN series in all aspects.
TheRockyCrowe I haven’t watched the Harley Quinn series but I can already tell it’s way more accurate to the comics and her original debut, since she only *plays* the dumb bimbo, but she’s actually extremely intelligent, especially since she has a fucking PhD
At least it's good to know that DC is still good at making animated content.
Rebecca Gibson It’s what they’re best at, if we’re being honest
@@MagnusTonitrum117 Agreed.
All of the lesser known DC projects are amazing.
I would like to say all of the DCU shows...but Titans is the only well known one and its crap.
Doom Patrol, Swamp-Thing, Harley Quinn, Gotham, etc. are all great. Or more than great, Doom Patrol is one of the best adaptations put to screen.
Why not make her a trickster who uses wits - because writing that requires the writer to have ... wits?
It seems to be a common problem. A character can only be as smart or funny as the person writing them. That's why I never liked Cumberbatch's Sherlock Holmes either. Regularly thinking "oh my god, what an idiot" about a character that's supposed to be a genius realy takes you out of a story.
Because that’s not her fucking character? Like at all? You asswipes complain when movies change characters but with this one it’s almost 100% accurate to the comics it’s based on and now you went them to do something else? You’re a bloody hypocrite
They copy-pasted Deadpool and Jack Sparrow but ended up with the dysfunctional squad from The Predator(2018).
Dare ka
🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 u couldn’t have said it better m8
Ouch.
Heh! There is NO REASON to get nasty! The Birds were probably only as bad as PredatorS...
Deadpool is played out and unoriginal though
@Purplekitty agree to disagree deadpool 2 yes better than this movie deadpool 1 was garbage
We snuck in to watch this movie after ours ended at the theater and it was so bad I was gonna ask for a refund. Never knew before that I'd be able to fall asleep during a loud action movie.
It was so trash. I've tried to watch it twice online, and YIKES!
"There's nothing wrong with the villain being secretly gay."
*[China has left the chat]*
"I mean it's a massive problem that should be fixed immediately."
@Elisa Castro Gay men wil at this point in time almost always be seen as "token gay characters" similar to how lots of black guys were mostly just the stereotypical cool guys yelling "YO, THAT IS WACK" during the 80-90's. There are plenty decent gay characters out there who aren't just tokens though.
YALL JUST BITTER CUZ THE MEN OF DC COULD'NT MAKE A GOOD MOVIE!
@@Bea-fc4sn YOU ARE JUST BITTER BECAUSE THIS MOVIE WAS SHIT!
Stop begging for attention that your parents never gave you, troll.
@Elisa Castro lol umh sweetie have you heard of a movie called Legend. It's about 2 real life gangsters in England one of which was gay and that character was badass also a movie called kiss kiss bang bang which had a badass gay supporting character or how about willow from Buffy the Vampire Slayer she was a lesbian witch and she was badass maybe do your research before you talk, just so you don't sound like a complete moron :)
Smeg Head those were all heroes honey. Try comprehending before commenting.
Director: Let's make a film where Harley needs no man for direction! She will lead the charge!
The movie: *Harley is aimlessly wandering around waiting for any man to give her orders*
Yeah, if they wanted to do that, they really should have gone with a Poison Ivy/HQ movie, the whole "breaking HQ from the Joker dependence" thing. Of course, that would probably require setting her up with a decent Joker first.
And getting saved by other people
@@Axterix13 Also that would add to a trope they did before.
Woman: *dumps man cause she needs no romance or men to be valued*
Same woman: *Gets in Lesbain romance cause everything the hetero relationship was right besides the icky man part*
@@akshay6027 Yeah they fight tropes by very slightly changing the Savior's or Romantic partner's Gender/Race and saying it's a huge difference that will kill the trope.
obviously you have no idea about what she has gone through.
The Birds Of Prey literally happen in the last 15 minutes of the movie *SO WHAT WAS THE POINT?!*
💸
@@erteple2647 but how? No one outside who reads comics knows who they are and the name is one of the reasons no one saw it
@Lucius Fawkes well that's fine for you but what about the vast majority of those who don't because that's clearly what happened
They also weren't involved in the final showdown. It seemed to just be setting them up for a film series, while using Harley Quinn to get people to see the movie.
That was the origin story for them, duh.
Another movie where people hate on it just because it's the trendy thing to do. MARK MY WORDS,this movie will be appreciated with time.
Well I hate the movie and it has nothing to do with being trendy whatsoever they took some of my favorite DC characters and turned them into forgettable and unfunny characters don't mind Margot Robbie even though she is really cringe in this film but the rest are dumb adaptations of otherwise great characters.
@@claytonveno3710 hmm real women with real issues instead of the usual super natural trash marvel does is cringe and forgettable. okay :D
She is such a better actor than this. It shows how agendas affect all sides negatively.
@Brendan Milburn any examples
@Brendan Milburn oh, didnt realize that was a movie name.
Margot Robbie's production team was behind this movie. She had a lot of pull when it came to it's direction.
@@marcelgardner8497 But she still had to pander to the Hollywood puppetmasters and the agenda.
Some of us are best as the canvas, some better as the paint, but very few are the painter. If Robbie was an executive producer with sway or otherwise controlled development, it is merely another example of promotion to ineptitude.
I thought he already covered this movie, but I was mistaking the Charlie's Angels AOAF for this. They are both such forgettable, imitative pieces of non-media that I thought all the points of one would overlap and cover into the other.
I thought I was the only one lol
"pure intentions"...
Jared Leto as Joker: Ha Ha Ha ha ha...
This movie was so forgettable that I don't even remember why he wore the mask at all. And he takes it off in the car as Harley is chasing him, so he wore it for what, like 4 minutes???
Indeed, the comics Black Mask had a mask fused to his fricken face.
well that is the problem with a lot of superhero's movie, because they need to show the actor face so they often just took off they mask for no reason, like in Spider-man trilogy and the amazing spidey-man.
@@shikniwho7215 While not strictly a Superhero movie, I give HUGE credit for Karl Urban not removing the helmet in Dredd. So. GOOD.
@@RickReasonnz or like V.
@@szlacha4 That's true. I remember watching that SURE that they were going to reveal Hugo's face at the end, and was rather surprised that he remained hidden.
they basically ripped off tank girl's whole personality just for this character.
Now, this critique I can get behind.
I really hate that the main charcter and the entire world around here is like a discord server with all the wacky xD so quirky from it
Turbo Gamer that’s LITERALLY how Harley Quinn and Gotham City is? Do you have no idea what you’re talking about?
@@zgiov7576 It really depends on what your talking about, in the cartoons the wacky xD is on level with this movie. The comics are very toned for the story telling, same for the live action show and the movies (most of the time). The wacky xD works in cartoons most of the time because they are not meant to be taken serious, in movies tho the story should not based souly on that.
YALL JUST BITTER CUZ THE MEN OF DC COULD'NT MAKE A GOOD MOVIE!
@@Bea-fc4sn Dude it's a bad movie, it's not because the women is the protag, I think Wonder Women is the best DC movie, if I really had that mindset I wouldn't say that and I would try and defend Batman v Superman, Justice League, or Man of Steel but I think those were bad, this movie is just bad not some gender movement
@@Bea-fc4sn You are a STOOPID BITCH
Ewan McGregor is in this movie? How did this happen, he's smarter than this
He was the only good part
Apparently not smart enough to not cheat on his wife and then star in a movie with his mistress, Mary Elizabeth Winstead
@@maldon3659 That sounds to me like he's pretty smart...plus...Mary Elizabeth Winstead man hahaha
@@polbalcells4869 the only problem is before he cheated on his wife, he said was proud to be a "Woke Bae" then he goes and cheats on his wife and then stars in Birds of Prey with his mistress
@@maldon3659 Sounds pretty smart to me
Fun fact.the reason this movie was made was because the director wanted to
"Smash down patriarchy."
Im not joking
I hate this movie but I didn't know that.
And now Warner Bros fired her XD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shes basically bankrupting Warner Bros XD!
@@somedudewhodraws9377 they did?!?!?
This explains a lot. They did my Harley bad :(
Looks like an imaginary world cant disassemble the "patriarchy"
The thumbnail is gonna give me nightmares.
Lol random=funny right
She just wants her sandwich
Movies write themself
She's being qUIrky omg Yaaaaas slay queeeeeen
Its like it was written by people who miss their old myspace accounts but don't want to admit it.
Then there is all the non-white lesbians getting their accomplishments stolen by men.
For some reason the final action scene where the entire team assembles to fight random goons was the most boring, uninteresting, uninspired fight scene I've seen in a while.
Honestly though, with Harley's character it's entirely possible to right an interesting movie with a running gag of Harley not getting to do something as simple as eat a delicious sandwich. Think about Harley's Holiday, a delightful Batman TAS episode that exploded out of a released Harley Quinn trying to buy a new dress on her first day out of Arkham Asylum.
The only character I liked in Birds of Prey, was the hyena.
Who knew CGI could have better acting than harley
Hyena : ( Laughs)
Actor: you can't just use cgi and make a better character than me
Cgi boyz: haha computer go brrrrr
@@aenguspigott6885 I thought you were responding from what I watching on youtube. Don't scare a brother like that. I can't go back
They put in the Suicide Squad version of Harley Quinn. You know, a reminder to people of arguably not a good movie, and you're surprised why it bombed? Because fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
Except she was one of the things people liked about it. And Suicide Squad made headlines at the time for doing well financially and with online audiences despite critical drubbing.
Fool me once shame on you, but teach a man to fool me and I be fooled for the rest of my life
Silly how the first Cartoon version of Harleyqin was very PG and not seXXXy and the director/writer said "No to make gaze or fantasy or patriarchy!!!" *Yet uses the most Sexiest version of her*
i think Suicide Squad's version of Harley was actually a really good one, way better than the one we got at BoP. It was a lot more faithful to the comics and original story than BoP, plus the way Margot talked and acted in general in SS also fits better with Harley
BP97 fool me once, shame one me, fool me twice fiddle-dee-dee
I fact they killed Zas made me yell.
"oh, Harley is so dead when black mask finds out!"
But the ending was just awful... too bad
Moral of the story : Stop putting all the movie budget in special effects and puts some more in good writters !!
LD Gamer pretty much
are there even any good (aka non-woke) writers in modern day Hollywood who could get hired? and what about non-woke producers?
@@august1724 The same who wrote Unforgettable and Shut In ... what a genius !! lol !!
@@august1724 no need to say shut the fuck up btw. I just didn't like any of her movies. So how does that make me pretentious?
I really needed to hear the "Even though people look down on you and act like you're nothing, doesn't mean you are nothing"
I genuinely thought the actress who played Cassandra Caine was a make a wish kid or something. It was like watching a middle schooler audition for the school play, and they still didn’t even get the part. She was that atrocious.
Especially if you know how Cassandra Cain is in the comics...
Man I could've bought extra two more burgers with the money I wasted on this movies. Even my friend fell asleep before they even completed act II
harley herself is a formidable opponent. they had one job to make her the batshit insane psycho wife of joker and they messed it up. I'm no DC fan, but even i can say that the Harley Quinn tv show did her more justice than this drivel did!
Even Gotham (the show) did a better job with Quinn - AND Zsazs for that matter
The way I see it, Harley wasn't just meant to be a an extension of the Joker, but as her own character; a playful woman child who lives in her own crazy world. I thought the movie did at least capture that part of her personality.
Yes
Jamie D Harley is not in Gotham
Harley was never meant to just be the Joker’s wife tho
I feel like they totally removed her sweetness which is why so many people love her so much. Yeah she’s complicated, crazy, intelligent, badass, but without her huuuuge heart she ain’t harley
she wants to save a girl...there's your heart lol
Agon Leed it’s how she does it and what she says throughout the movie, besides she’s forced to deal with her for the most part and at the end she says she wants to make her her protégée which is much more selfish than carrying. I never got the idea that she genuinely cares, because she acts like she’s afraid of her emotions while Harley isn’t because in her own way she knows how to deal with them. Despite being a crazy bitch she has a lot more control than shown in the movie, but now I’m going into the territory of what the video explained very well. I really wish I liked this movie because I absolutely love Harley, but I’m sad I didn’t. Believe me I’m not aggressively bashing it.
A core part of the film is her growing attachment and protectiveness of a young girl.
Harley is constantly sweet-talking Doc and is shown to care for him.
She has a large attachment to her hyena and stuffed beaver.
Mama . . . The film is full of "sweetness." You just want to complain fr fr
GoodFunVideos I don’t want to complain, I’m just telling how I felt about it through text and situations that they chose to make. I’m not being a dick about it. No need to get sassy.
@@versversa8083 there was a lot of sweeteness to the character, it's just subjective. She's more comic books accurate in this movie.
this just makes me want to rewatch Pirates of the Caribbean
@Matt R thos movies are awesome and no lol I'm 27
@Matt R Yeah and what's your point? I watched them when I was a kid like 15 years ago. You know what nostalgia is? People rewatch classic movies for nostalgia all the time. Also what makes it for kids in the first place? It's a movie that's enjoyed by everyone. My Dad is 60 and he likes them..
@Matt R Ok now you're trolling lol
@Matt R god you're dumb
Me too
Yeah when you said that bit about the ending they rewrote it kinda saddened me. They had this amazing character of a villain, with perfectly realistic motivations, and scrapped it off for the most cliched thing ever. And whats worse is that I can very clearly imagine the executive producer being like "ohh no we cant use his sexuality against him, that would be bad lgtb representation". When instead it could have been veeeeery easy to manage. Simply make the bad guy fail to recover the pictures, and force him to embrace his sexuality and let the world know his secret so he can *defeat* Harley. Not only it makes for a pretty darn good climax, taking harley's advantage over him with the pictures, but also completely cements the character as a 3 dimensional being capable of growing.
Disney is rebooting the Pirates of the Caribbean series with a gender swap for Jack Sparrow. Margot Robbie starring in it, and Christina Hodson is writing it.
Filmento = Nostradamus
Maybe or the feminazies are hacks who steal ideas from RUclips videos.
If they don't have any ideas about movies then they should invite Filmeto in the writing room and give him a writing position instead of ripping him off like they did with the Star Wars TROS.
Excuse me as I scream in agony at the very thought of this.
*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
...um they could have done a sequel with Margot's character being inspired by Jack. how is Johnny Depp gonna earn his paychek now?
Hollywood is such a joke 😂
@@worldweaver2691 after his wife lied about being abused and he proved his innocence in court and she was outed as a liar, they fired him.
Filmento: The main villain is the best character
Everyone: Because of Obi-Wan?
Well, Hello, there!
@Laltluangliana Sailop 😜😜😜
About black mask's motives
"Power is not an end goal, it's a tool to reach an end goal"
I personally loved Harleys depiction in the Birds of Prey Movie. It was very close to the character that was shown in her solo comic series (which is also set in a post Harley-Joker-Breakup Scenario). The hole point of her character there was, that she did what she wanted, when she wanted without having to explain herself to anyone... So the comic Version (which I assume to be the source material for Birds of Prey) was basically a chaos queen with a lot of dumb luck. Many depictions of Harley Quin show her stumbling through events and somehow not dying... The point of Birds of Prey was to show how she learned, that she needs her own agency and can't rely on men... Which is exactly why she tries to replace the Joker with Roman for the first 2/3 of it...
And the fact that Roman fits Harleys world best is quite unsurprising: both of there characters motivation, agency, etc. relys heavyly on them being crazy!
The Problem with the Birds of Prey was not, that there Story was told by Harley, but that they weren't the actual Birds of Prey (replacing Oracle with Montoya was a choice... ... ...) so the biggest issue of the movie is the title... It's called "Birds of Prey" without an focus on the Birds of Prey and without the hole team present...
But none of this makes it a good or a bad movie. I'd say it's an enjoyable movie and a great Harley Quin adaptation!
(I do agree, that it would have been a better movie if the McGuffin had been naked pictures of the villain)