One of Mike's pet peeves! 🤷♂️😆
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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I couldn't agree more! You should go around and turn all the feeder houses so the rust is showing.. haha
I take the dealer decals of everything I buy
I like to leave em on
You might be surprised to know what women do to sell them selves to possible husbands. 😂😂😂😂😂 It’s borderline dishonest. 😂😂😂😂😂
You have won the internet for today...
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Out on the day off making friends! 😂 I love your brutal honesty Mike!
Dad took one of his combines in to get a seal fixed then it came back with one of those big stickers and dad phoned them gave em shit and made them come take it off😁
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🤣🤣 your dad is awesome
Side effect when a company that is mostly about being a car dealer gets into ag industry. You get used car salesman tatics
Just like vehicles, I take all of the dealer decals off. No free advertising for them
What about the deckles ?
I always ask my dealers to remove the decals. its a personal joy of mine.
You nailed it Mike, Great video. Thanks for being the voice to what a lot of us think on many of these subjects that you cover.
I am just waiting for that video when half way through it you get that phone call "water broke"aaaaaannnd panic mode ensues :)
We use a small rivetted decal on our equipment which we remove after the rental has come to an end and goes to auction . We clean and as rust prevention we use rape seed oil on the bare metal . If something needs to be painted it will be for the person who buys and they are mostly dealers in used second hand equipment .
Yep, agree. And not just with farm equipment either.
The honesty is refreshing. Like many, you have pointed out deceptive practices. I agree with you, want to see the wear and tear on a used piece. If I want it painted, I’ll do it. Thanks again Mike, great video !
My favorite is when used dealers try to say something is field ready, and then you get it home and it needs thousands of dollars in repairs.
My biggest take-away from this video is that Mike pronounces decal like deck-ul
Thats a Cdn thing. Americans call it a Deecal.
This confused me. Said it the same twice.
I didn't realize he was Canadian until I heard that. Subscribed just now.
@@jeanhutchinson6198 he from Saskatchewan
This video absolutely made my day
Couldn’t agree more
I also hate when dealers do this. It's very deceiving especially for the newer guys. Luckily my grandfather told me about these things growing up.
A little bit of powder,and a little bit of paint, makes her look like it ain’t. …..
I have to be honest I do not care about painting the rims. Spraying the feeder house, chain, and etc are pretty shady. I would hope an honest salesman would disclose that.
Since there’s more than one machine there that has that done it’s for sure the dealer that’s doing it. Only one then I would’ve thought it was the previous owner trying to hide something.
Give em a break Mike. The primary purpose of paint is to protect what is underneath from the elements. Repainting equipment is a sound practice to renew the protection from sitting out in the weather. Any farmer worth his salt should be able to evaluate used equipment despite the repainting...
I wish that were true good sir, but that's actually not the reason, with evidence to prove it.
They gave it the ol Ritchie Brothers overhaul
Well put. Richie Brothers😬😂😂😂
The funny thing is...if it was my combine I would paint those areas after every season to protect them from rust. To me it makes sense to protect those parts from the elements while sitting outside for however long until the unit is sold.
Makes sense for storage. But it sure makes a dealer shady, maybe use some kind of oil instead so you still can see everything?
Pointless. It's not gonna help.
Yep. Did that here in the (wet) UK.
You would probably actually paint it though, not just what's showing at that moment.
It’s called marketing Mike and yes it’s deceptive and yes I had several marketing classes in college 55 years ago and it always seemed wrong to miss lead the customers. I guess that’s why I farmed all these years and now I have no regrets for being honest, working hard and treating my fellow man like I want to be treated.
What a dishonest set up! I wouldn't buy anything from them. If they are prepared to put the effort into hiding stuff, are they dishonest enough to alter the hour meter etc?
Totally Agree !!!.
I was an ag lender for nearly 50 years. Early on in my career a customer came in to do his annual financial statement and we went through machinery purchases and improvements during the past year. He told me he had bought 2 used Farmall 806 Diesel tractors for $3000 each, which was about half of the market for used 806 Diesels. I asked how he got them so cheap. He told me he bought them at a consignment auction (with a reputation for handling lots of really tough machinery) and then completely overhauled them. He said if I go the local dealers I might get a nice looking tractor with fresh paint, but I don't really know how good they are inside and they want about $6000 for the ones they have. Now I now exactly what I have and I have about $6000 invested in the tractor and the overhaul work. This was in the early 1970's so keep that in mind as you look at the numbers.
Totally agree!
when i worked at a JD dealer we would paint flighting on header augers and put plow coat on tillage tools so things wouldnt rust up sitting on the lot.
Lol i make them take the decals off everything i buy from a dealership. It changes their tune when you say they can stay on if you give me a 20% discount for advertising.
Rattle can recondition! Auction companies used to do that 20 years ago with a spray that made old paint shine like new. A couple years after they really looked bad. It is what it is leave it that way.
I could have painted that myself with that type of job they did 😂
Not borderline dishonest it is full blown dishonesty.
My old boss used to say "people feel better about buying something if it looks good, doesn't matter if it's about ready to blow up."
100% agreed! I dont mind if used machine is painted, IF it is done correctly with primer etc. AND they do say it openly! But this.. this is not good. I wont buy that kind of machine, like you said cant trust at all what it is. I want to see it like it came from field, it doesnt matter if it is a bit dirty or dusty etc. It is better that way, then you see every hydraulic leak/bearing "leak" and wearpoints etc.
Dealers, stop doing this! It even doesnt look good! Why it is done in the first place..
Mr. Mike, thank you for many great videos, but this one - THE GREATEST OF THEM ALL 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I used to work for a large rental company and before anything went to auction when we got rid of it the equipment was body worked and repainted top to bottom. The owner would say a thousand dollar paint job was worth ten thousand more at the auction.
I would believe it.. a lot of buyers don't look closely or know what they are looking at... Plus some people get crazy at auctions and pay newish prices for used equipment.
The dealer could spray the internals with some sort of a food grade oil to prevent rust, yet not disguise the wear. I would think that there is a product like that available to use.// Looking thru the comments, I see someone using rape seed oil.
lov ehow mike says "deck-al" at 1:00-1:30 instead of dEcal. but after hearing it that way...... im sold.
With you on that. Hate dealers that put those stickers on
I've work many years for a JD dealer and it really depends on the used equipment manager. I've seen some who want you to paint everything ! Even the tooth on a used excavator bucket!
These guys usually don't last long, the customer who work with his equipment need to know what machine he buys, or he will never come back for more ...
I have to agree. I won't have a auto dealer sign on the back of my vehicles either.
Hahah Canadian spray paint level 1 😆
You want to see patina on antiques! heh :)
At least your putting it out there!!😂
Gotta give the apprentice something to do in a slow day..... Lol
They’re taking lessons from Ritchie bro’s lol
These combines will all be at Ritchie brothers in December!
Took a page out of Richie Bros. Playbook. Give it a 5 gallon overhaul.
I find automotive dealers the worst for this. I bought a Chrysler 300S back in the day that looked mint all the way around. Week later after first full hand wash and noticed it needed new front bumper as they had plastic welded it and hastily painted it to hide. Beyond frustrating so I’m with you Mike.
I actually sell John Deere equipment and can say our dealerships aren’t in this practice for used equipment. Kinda shady if you ask me!
Spraybomb used equipment pisses me off too!!
Totally agree buddy!!! Why paint the feeder house/drum chain etc. What they covering up. Unless it's all pained like new and not a shit ass job like that
Haha. They just added a couple grand worth of paint 😂😂
1:50 What is that weird whisper? Sounds like you picked up a daytime ghost EVP!
That's quite the Ritchie Bros "restoration"...
Buy a decal remover, it fits an angle grinder and is a rubber eraser like material! Works great for taking all decals off without damaging paint!
My wife’s GMC Denali has a dealership advertisement on back of it it’s literally the size of the rear window. I don’t know why I haven’t removed it yet. 🤷♂️ 😆 thanks Mike
I tell them they can leave the dealer sticker on if they take all of the destination and delivery charges off. Haven’t had one yet do it. Ha ha
Anyone smart in the used market especially if I see paint in pictures online. I won’t even bother. You know their covering something up. If your painting it for rust reason. John Deere Carry’s linseed oil for that.
I 100% agree with what you said. Like why make something look new when it’s far from it?? Not to mention doing a quick spray paint job like that! Do dealers think that we’re all to stupid and blind to tell the difference!? Not to mention that they are so horribly over priced (and I’m a deere guy!) and apparently a combine that’s a year old with 180 separator hours on it, is worth 350 to 400,000 dollars less than new!! That’s almost half the price of new! Like what the hell!! We all need to go over everything we look at with a fine tooth comb because of this! I know Pattison is really under the gun as of late but COME ON!!
I agree, I remove the dealer tag off of my vehicles as well.
In dealer's defense, if things are left bare metal, and it doesn't sell that season, that will rust and look very ugly! Lot easier to touchup right away VS after it sets for a year.
All the combines and other stuff going to the RB auction gets the spray can paint job lol.
You are missing the point The dealer is trying to stop the rust form taking over
I completely agree Mike.
I knew a guy that sold old Landrovers , most had worn out engines , he'd mix sawdust with the oil , definitely fixed the rattling , for as long as it needed too for him anyway !!!
If the dealer put more effort into parts & repairs to the used combine instead of touch up paint they would probably have a very nice used machine
I can't agree with you enough!! When I serviced my bike all the paint the cowboys I bought it from flaked off. The more I worked the worse it got until the full realisation of how I'd been duped dawned on me. I'll never go there again and I'll advise other bikers away from them. I wish I'd had your eye Mike when I bought it but was blinded by excitement. It looked so clean and tidy! 😪
A little extra paint adds at least 50hp and a few thou’s in the price… 😂
If you are going to own equipment with the dealer's logo they need to pay you for advertising space. Work the deal on the purchase price for a discount.
Monthly pay for an ad this big on a truck is about 60 bucks. Just ask them if you can arrange a deal that way. 😁
Mike, I know you have way too many projects on your plate, but how about starting a consulting/ scouting service for used equipment???
Took me about the fifth time of you saying decal to pick up on. What you were trying to say haha
Good going Mike Keep up the good work Have a great week end
The deckal lol. Decal.
I just removed the vinyl sticker from my truck that had the dealer name in it. If I wanted it painted I would paint it my self.
I’m in two minds on this Mike, back in 2005 I bought a second hand JD 10 series tractor, I got to see it original when it came in the CaseIH yard and then they painted it. That paint job is better than any new tractor I have ever had and I love that tractor still today. My pet peeve is dealer stickers on glass and a lack of paint on new tractors, grills that go rusty after a few months
I don't mind dealer stickers on glass, only because they are easy to get off. 😁
@@davevmey Haha :) Don't know why I never thought of that!
i work for a big equipment rental company, we touch up every unit that comes back for one reason, to see how the customer is treating the equipment. if we rent a forklift and it comes back beat to hell, we know they were rough with it and will give it a second look. ;most of the time customer just ends up buying panels and labor for paint. sometimes they end up paying thousands for the damage they have done. had a 10k telehandler come back with a huge amount of scratches so the mechanic decided to look further and found a gouge in the oil pan that was slowly leaking. customer ended up paying to have the engine pulled and pan replaced, probably would of cost another company 20k for an engine replacement for damage that they didnt do.
I agree, very bad look for the sales manager. None of our local dealerships do that. But they do plaster their sticker in about 10 different spots. And like you I removed them.
That is why they didn't have the x9 for you to demo it was in the shop getting a fresh coat on the feeder house chain and probably had the header in there also just to touch up the knives and cutter bar guards.
Could they just be putting a bit of spray paint on there to reduce the rust over the winter?
💯% right I don't like what!
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We only have one dealer in the entire country
Just buy new and no concerns. 😂😂
Mike the world is full of scammers, crooks, and thieves. It doesn’t matter the industry.
They don't do that to fool anyone it's because they sit outside all the time the end of the feeder house that's exposed and any bare metal in the rims would rust all the hell otherwise. Do you leave your combines parked outside all year or do you put them in a building?
my neighbor wwill NOT let the dealer unload if their decal is on the machine. his dad and grandpa are the same way, they tell the dealers you can leave your decal on BUT it will cost you so much a month!!! its funny cause as of 5 years ago when a new machine shows up NO decals
Yea! I ask my car dealer if He is going to pay for my Mustang. He said no. Then get your name off my car!
Love It Keeping them honest
Unfortunately attempting to cover up blemishes is way to common in so many industries.
People trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear as the saying goes.
It doesn’t matter if they tell you that it’s not a used feeder house chain. By the time they tell you that you’re way to invested and will probably still buy it
You make a great point.
I hear you, I’ll never buy a Re-Painted tractor again!!!!!! I got screwed once, never again……
maybe its so the exsposed area doesnt rust as much that gets hit by all weather which is going to rust twice as fast
I have a huge problem with car dealers putting their dealer sticker on a new or used car or truck. It's nobodies business where I bought it. I had a Ranger I bought new in 1980. I took the sticker off when I got home. The sticker wasn't on it when we looked at it so it had just been put on when we picked it up. The next time it was at the dealer for whatever reason another sticker was put on. I took it off. We knew the service manager and told him we didn't want their sticker on it. Next time we had a sticker on it from their other store, Dodge, Chrysler, Plymouth.
hey mike i just want to say thanks for the video, that's straight up fraud. all trust is lost, all a guy can think from that point forward is what else are they hiding...as a younger farmer i look forward to videos based in the office... lease vs owning/rental rates to purchasing/marketing/cash flow/crop rotation-bias towards current markets or is it set in stone... keep up the great work!
I can understand giving something a quick hit with spray paint to prevent flash rust, but I dont believe thats why the equipt dealers do it.
Full of shit like that here in Quebec, a lot of tractors 80-200hp do snow in the cities during winter then they try and repaint rust buckets 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Well excussssssssss meeeeeeeee!
We call that Sherman Williams overhaul.
You should start slapping Faith Hope Farms stickers on their service and sales trucks. Hahaha You advertise for them they should return the favour hahahaha. Had a good chuckle at the fresh paint on a bent feeder chain and dented drum.
O Mike these boys are going to love you
I take all decals of everything I have. I have the seem pet peeve with equipment as well especially with used equipment. I also want to what they are trying to hide as well. I think all farmers have the same pet peeve.