Spider-Man: Miles Morales - What Aged Well...and What Didn't
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Having done a 5 year retrospective on the original game, I wanted to crunch out an essay on Miles Morales' own game before the anticipated sequel comes out. While going through my third run, I noticed that parts of the spinoff aged both incredibly well...and slightly poorly.
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The snowy environment of the map felt weirdly nostalgic, almost like Miles was a long-time friend telling me about how his Christmas vacation went in a way
frrrr
completely agree. I used to go on this Spanish class trip to New York every December, and seeing it like that brought me right back.
Yep for real
December 2020 was the best month of my life
Something that always bugged me about spider man miles morales was that the underground and roxxon where basically reskinned versions of the demons and stable International
I also didn't like the tinkerer. She was pretty boring as a character.
Are you kidding me 😭😭😭😭
I do prefer ROXXON over Sable because atleast there's more "color" with the enemies you fight
The Underground and the Demons have like no similarities
@@Moan-Ah-Liza Tbf underground and demons had very similar enemy types. The brute with a shield and hard hitting weapon and another one that I can't fully remember.
That howard’s pidgeons statement really didn’t age well 😭😭
Ong 😭 🪦🕊️
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
For real 😭😭
At least he dies in Spider man 2
@@Ian-s1c too far
11:33 🙁…. 😔well… he definitely doesn’t lose them again
Remember it was a half priced game that ended up being free with ps plus less then a year later. The actual gameplay is phenomenal. Definitely more polished then Spider-Man PS4. The story is also pretty great but no where near as emotionally satisfying as Spider-Man PS4
it was full priced. call it what you want but 50-60$ isn't half priced for me.
@@JesuisParte I paid 40 for it 🤷♂️
I would also like to add another cool thing about Uncle Aaron's musical scavenger hunt quest line. Not only does it give lore about him and Miles Dad, each new piece you get adds a part to the background environmental music.
Like for the first bit of the game until that quest, it's a slightly generic hip hop kind of beat with not much going past that. But then you find a sound and mix it and now the background has percussion, then it has louder strings, then some added sounds and beats, ect.
Just go back and listen to the ambient music before, during, and after you finish Uncle Aaron's music quest. The theme legit goes from feeling like a generic kind of underwhelming beat, to actually sounding like Miles' version of the Spiderman theme.
That is sick!
I don’t have it for a ps5 so I’m just gonna get another ps4 and my first game is gonna be this one and probably Spider-Man 2. I beat the first one when I had my last ps4. People keep telling me it’s not worth it to get a ps4, but as long as I can play all the games I like for half the price I’m cool with that. . I really wanna play this game and spider 2
@@kalithechamp1412 you cant get spiser man 2 on pa4
@@kalithechamp1412 Spider-Man 2 is PS5 exclusive so you can't play it on PS4. Hope you enjoy tho!
Didn't expect to enjoy this video as much as I did, not only did it seem unbiased but it was also an all round fantastic piece of content
11:35
Hey, the Howard missions are great, pigeon facts are interesting
16:50 i’m all for criticism, but realistically no one would assume their best friend is a super villain based on these coincidences alone. as a player it may seem predictable but for miles and peter it wouldn’t be
It is the same as saying your neighbour wasn't around when a supervillain attacked, so yeah no logic there
@@PredictTheFuture A neighbor is one thing, a best friend is another thing entirely.
@@yungmuney5903 would you just assume your best friend is a supervillain because they weren't there, when your friend weren't with you?
Can’t wait for Spider-Man 2,I am currently playing this and I’m having a blast since I got my ps5 a little over a week ago,so the timing could not have been better.
Same, got mine back in august and i'm eagerly waiting for the game, these last 8 days are probably gonna feel like forever.
Replaying this game and forgot how fun it is. Basically it’ feels so good to be in
22:30 I actually love what they briefly id with Ganke in ATSV. There was already enough characters and plot to build up and work through, having Ganke be the "guy in the chair" would've added too much to balance. And just because you find out that your best friend is a superhero, doesn't mean you're obligated to be a "guy in the chair". That's like expecting your friends to take part in all your hobbies or for them to automatically have the exact same interest. Ganke definitely thinks it's cool that Miles is Spider-man and he roots for him, but he's not gonna be spending his time listening to police lines and working on tech for Miles.
I also feel like it might have been a light jab at the MCU and Ned Leeds in the Spider-man movies. Peter having a best friend who's a "guy in the chair" just doesn't really feel right. It could work if it's handled properly. But having Peter start his career as Spider-man with people supporting him and knowing his identity at every single point makes him feel like he doesn't have room to grow on his own (at least, not until the end of No Way Home). And in all honesty, Ned became less and less important as time went on, with the focus redirecting to Peter and MJ's relationship while Ned was sort of just there with a participation award for being the "guy in the chair" (for just one movie).
I didn't see my neighbour when Thanos attacked, it means that he is Thanos.
That logic makes no sense.
Everyone is hyped for Spider-Man 2 but the real ones are hyped for Gamespots review of it
What? No
Lmao bless you this made me laugh
If they're smart and/or cool, they'll double down, make it a joke!
The winter environment is definitely good while in the story, but once you're out free-roaming after completing the collectibles, it just feels more hollow than spider-man remastered. Everything is a lot less vibrant because its all blanketed in white snow, and the reflections aren't given a chance to shine as much because of the ice on the windows. Definitely *feels* less alive than spider-man remastered.
While I agree with the overall statement, I did find Harlem to be very vibrant and cozy - the small shops, the grafitti, people playing basketball, Christmas decorations, all of it. I don’t remember the neighborhood being as vibrant in the previous game. Makes sense given the narrative focus of this game.
to think the moment of miles creating his own identity and suit were redone for a crappy adidas collab suit is heartbroken
“If Howard loses his pigeons one more damn time in Spider-Man 2” that didn’t age well
11:37 hey ummm enjoy those pigeons while you still can
I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who ran into more bugs now than launch
Especially the final boss fight idk what they did but multiple people have said it's so laggy on performance mode now
There have been so many new videos about spiderman these past couple of days and I am here for it i am so hyped
its sad to think that Howard didn't lose his pigeons but the pigeons lose howard in spiderman 2
If we step back and look at what's going on in the games industry as a whole, I think it's kinda insane to complain about something like Miles Morales as being a "half-sequel" or a game-length DLC. Yes, the game copies and pastes the Manhattan Island map from the first game with minimal changes. Why is that a bad thing? That map is a masterpiece, both as a game arena, and as a story-packed environment. It must have taken years to build. And I wasn't nearly done with it when I finished the first Spider-Man game. I'd far rather a game developer make a gigantic, deeply detailed map and use it for multiple games than make a sloppy, banged together map for each game.
In general, I think carefully crafting a game design for multiple titles seems like a very sensible way to go. I remember back in the day when people complained that Arkham Origins reused a lot of the Arkham City map, like that was a bad thing. Time ultimately vindicated that game as a worthy entry. It didn't need to be the next evolution. All it needed to be was more of what we liked in Arkham City, to hold us over till Arkham Knight came along. And frankly, Arkham Origins had better bossfights than either of the previous two games, not to mention better martial arts combat, so it also contributed significantly to the series' evolution. Was it ultimately a game-length DLC? Yes, more or less. But I'm missing the part where that's a bad thing.
Games are struggling with longer and longer development times, with Starfield taking 8 years, finally releasing to a world that has already moved on from what it was meant to offer. Meanwhile, PS5 is now two years old, with only a scant number of games that could only exist on its platform. Why? Because it just takes too long to make games. So personally, once Spider-Man 2 comes along, I'll welcome two or even three spin-off games using the same map, the same basic assets, combat model, etc, but with new stories and characters through which to experience it all. I want a Black Cat game. How about a Daredevil game, set in a smaller but denser section of Manhattan, that spends more time on the streets and less on the rooftops? What about a whole Spider-Gwen game done in the Spider-Verse style, not just one skin and one suit upgrade? They don't need to start from scratch and reinvent the wheel with every entry. They just need to be enjoyable campaigns, with enough tweaks to make the game play feel fresh.
nah im fine w the map and stuff, the map was great and needed no change, also if you changed the map it kinda defeats the purpose of the relation between the 2 spidemen, and also like half the plot is miles learning to be on his one??? so people complaining about that is wild to me.
however yes I did find the length of the game a bit too short, I think its like 6-8 main missions in before reaching the final mission. My main critique is the price because they charged full price for it. WHILE YES it should have been its own game rather than a DLC, I found it a bit ridiculous that they charged full price for it/ charged the same for the original spiderman game. I mean I totally get why they wanted to make it shorter, so they could start working on SPIDERMAN 2 straight away, For its price either the content should be increased or the price should have been reduced. like the original price was 60, and I definitely didn't want to pay that, I would have repspectably paid something like 3o dollars instead. it just seems way more fair for the content.
I really just wanna play as Gwen and black cat
@@vanshsureka2425 Miles Morales was 50 dollars at launch. It was only 60 if you bought the ultimate edition on PS5 that came with a remaster of the original game.
@@Kingdom850 still think 50 is quite a lot, a good pricing would be 30-40
@@vanshsureka2425 Production values. It's still considered a AAA production, they're not giving it indie game prices. That's just how the industry works.
The day miles got announced was such a bad day for me I remember waking up and my mom saying my uncle died due to a heart attack bad day
Sorry for your loss
Hey there! Just here to remind you to please keep it spoiler-free regarding anything to do with Spider-Man 2. The OG game and Miles Morales are fair game but nothing from the new game will be tolerated here, that includes unknown gameplay mechanics and trophy names of any kind. Thanks for you consideration!
And if you haven't already done so, check out my 5-Year Retrospective on the original 2018 game here: ruclips.net/video/5Gwyx8qITtI/видео.html
Gameplay mechanics should be fine lmfao the moment it drops people are just gonna share on RUclips hidden mechanics and details anyways. Trophies or story segments though definitely should get rid of those comments, I understand you probably wanna play it completely blind but I doubt knowing a trick for web slinging or combat beforehand is gonna tank your experience. For me it's only made me want the game to drop today lol
Sad how in Spider-Man 2 he didnt lose his pigeons we lost Howard 😢
Martin Li did not " suddenly disappear" .
He announced openly that he was going on a trip.
the thing im happy about is that the story wasnt shortened but what they did was took out allot of the side content that was in the first game
11:33 Howard loses everything in spider man 2
Without watching the video I'm a bit irritated by the title. Fym "Aged well" the game is only three years old, it's not even old enough to go to school. It's barely aged at all.
And it already isn't that well aged despite only being 3 years old. Wonder what that says about this game
Well the next game is out, so it’s fair to evaluate the previous installment
your going to wish howard lost his pigeons
Everyone always hates Simon Krieger because he has no motive other than money and power. Which is perfect, we've already seen revenge with 3 other villians as their motive. Li wants revenge, Otto wants revenge and now Phin wants revenge. Simon was actually a breath of fresh air, he's an asshole, person whose just a greedy prick who will do anything to make money. THATS different, he doesnt need extra motives to be someone who you want to beat up. Every reviewer hates on him but I cant get behind that. He's perfect being a greedy prick.
This game was 3 years ago ???
😭
Yeah...unreal
I just wanted ot share my take as a person who is regular who played the game.
I heard some people complaining about the map? im fine w the map and stuff, the map was great and needed no change, also if you changed the map it kinda defeats the purpose of the relation between the 2 spide-men, and also like half the plot is miles learning to be on his own in the city and also like the entire ending is him wanting to save his "home"??? so people complaining about that is wild to me.
however yes I did find the length of the game a bit too short, I think its like 6-8 main missions in before reaching the final mission. My main critique is the price because they charged full price for it. WHILE YES it should have been its own game rather than a DLC, I found it a bit ridiculous that they charged full price for it/ charged the same for the original spiderman game. I mean I totally get why they wanted to make it shorter, so they could start working on SPIDERMAN 2 straight away, For its price either the content should be increased or the price should have been reduced. like the original price was 60, and I definitely didn't want to pay that, I would have repspectably paid something like 3o dollars instead. it just seems way more fair for the content.
It wasn't $60 at launch, though. It was $50.
The fane is jot without flaws but I thoroughly enjoyed Mikes Morales, I felt like he was his own character, enjoyed the story and environment, I loved it. It was definitely a worthy entry into the insomniac Spiderman up universe
miles actually made a new suit in spiderman 2
14:00 “The video game based off of a Spider-Man comic book has writing similar to a Spider-Man comic book” This MCU dialogue talking point has been done to death. Marvel comics have wacky dialogue and corny jokes. Spider-Man was corny before the MCU existed. You know that corny/cringe jokes existed before 2008 right? 😂
Well..that Howard comment didn’t age well
11:33 didn't age well
Oh David…Howard won’t lose his pigeons..much worse
I actually really liked Simon as a villain, mainly because i have a soft spot for generic "im evil and an asshole and i love money" type villains. i find it more unique ironically then trying to make a villain who has actual (sometimes sympathetic) motivations. Simon is a very easily hateable villain, and i really like that and want to see it more.
i DO however wish that the underground stuff was a little more fleshed out, like maybe the infiltration stuff took a little longer or something rather than ending the same mission it began.
sth i have to nitpick about the your opinion on the writing you said that if a philantropist who runs a homless shelter suddenly disappears, right before a terorist attack may be suspicious, but in universe there was no way to pin that on Martin li firstly because Peter trusted him and secondly because he didn't show himself before the attack on Norman.
What i want to say the player may get suspicious but in universe its valid writing. 16:50
15:55 “Podcasts can be enabled or disabled via Audio Settings in the Options Menu.” 🤔
One thing that i didnt like abt the game was the over repeated voicelines by the underground like i hear the same voicelines by some underground lady
2 months ago 😮
I mean this would have been better if this was uploaded after Spiderman 2 released, so that you could have 2 games to compare with instead of 1
But it's cool
if you really wanna enjoy the combat and have a challenge play ultimate every other mode is just so easy
My guy the game is only 3 years old
"Only" three years.
Howard did more than lose his pidgins in Spider-Man 2 😢
I've been replaying this game for the past week, and I've encountered several glitches too. I hadn't had Miles clipping through buildings and getting stuck before this playthrough. Maybe a recent patch caused some issues.
Nope! No lost pigeons in Spiderman 2. Instead, Howard just fucking dies.
Him saying "IF HOWARDS LOSES HIS DAMN PIDGEONS ONE MORE TIME IN THE SEQUEL I'M GONNA LOSE IT" aged like fine wine didn't it...
What a great mission Howard's mission was in Spider-Man 2. I cried fr.
Morales was definitely used better in this game than in Spider-Man 2. They sold him out for some Adidas sneakers and relegated him to side mission work which destroyed his entire character for me and soured my experience tremendously. I always look forward to this game if I get the itch to play the black and red Spider over 2 any day.
i personally like the miles morales game more, but great video!
I felt more connected to it and to me, it was more personal because of Miles getting to know his new neighborhood.
I liked the gameplay more than the first
@@Natezilla_2yeah that one's fair
My biggest hope for the next installment in the series is that they let Peter keep all his gadgets and give him some new interesting ones as well. I found Mile's gadgets to be severely underwhelming and I found it hard to get creative with them. There is only some much that you can do with 3 gadgets and one is basically an NPC that you have no control over. Hopefully their is some interesting ones in Spider-Man 2
I personally like that miles didn’t have as many gadgets in the original I didn’t really used them they just not a Spider-Man thing gadgets are more of a Batman thing.
@vprometheussv8590 Yeah, but the combat in Miles Morales severely suffers from the loss of gadgets. The casual gamer that doesn't get too deep into the combat won't notice much of a difference besides the added venom abilities. the amount of creativity that the gadgets allow in 2018 is insane. And A lot of that was lost between 2018 and Miles morales.
As far as "gadgets not being a spider man thing" goes. You have to remember that this is Insomniacs Spider-Man universe. Not an adaptation of another spiderman universe. In this universe Peter and Miles are genius science/tech enthusiasts. I think it fits perfectly in this game for them to have tons of cool gadgets.
And for people who don't like gadgets. They can just not use them. You have nothing to lose. But if you strip down most of the gadgets like they did in Miles Morales you're hurting the players that like to experiment and get deeper with the combat.
@@rufus5208 you make some good points but with Miles his powers supplement for the lack of gadgets.
I've played this game about 5 times and there hasn't been a SINGLE time that I listened to even one of the podcasts 😂😂 Jameson for life
SPOILER
Don't worry man, in the sequel the pigeons lose Howard instead
7:38 this is in the sequel it was shown in one of the trailers
His voice is mad nasally. I wish the voice actor from the movie voiced the game also
That Howard comment didn’t age well, huh?
here actually why it was bug after awhile playing after years not playing, and the same for rachet and clank
if you delete the game and reinstall it work all much better, no idea why but after some times,it just..glitchy and load times were long in rachet game though portals as an example but one redownload it somehow all gone after opening up awhile
no idea why, just how it is strangely
That Howard comment did not age well 😔
I am excited for marvel's spider-man two, hopefully we get a wonderful story for both our web slinging heroes must face tons of new threats.
I love this game, despite its faults like the story funny enough simple is better for a spider character at least for me plus miles means a lot to me an if people don't enjoy this game its ok.
from what i heard... side quests are full of wokeness stuff.
Peter's story is fighting badies (cant quip with cops for whatever reason) actiony.
Miles's story is more towards discrimination.
They even retconed his relationship with his father somewhat (due to the cop thing im guessing)
Its a weird game....
@@johnynoway9127 nah well if you hear that stuff is in the game, just don't play an half of the game doesn't have a bunch of that stuff if it isn't your cup of I understand that maybe you could play older spiderman games.
I just get sick of comments, like that sprinkled through youtube.
@@spider-423 i did play most spiderman games
The issue is: I prefer to play side content before the story stuff to get it over with fast
(especially if the map has travel points and buffs for completing tasks)
@@johnynoway9127 it's ok I understand, some of side missions for both games felt a little lack luster or missing opportunity.
@@spider-423 Well main issue i got is that it feels weird when im basically slammed in the face by "OH IM BLACK" or any other minority.
Like bro...i just want to have fun or have a good story not your propaganda bs hating on average people.
They cant even talk to cops which makes no sense when all the Heroes are essentially cops themselves.
Howard is one of the best characters, but those PIGEONS!
Wow I've never had a big in my spiderman games
I won't lie, I love these games but I kinda wish they were a bit more realistic to New York. New York is a lot more lively and also you're telling me every single person in New York is nice? There's no way the criminals are the only bad people in New York, I am pretty sure there's a lot more mean people there.
Also I swear both Spider-Men have some kind of attraction to influential people cause none of their friends are just "regular" people.
Im aware this is an old video, But Amazing is the games Normal mode. Spectacular is the hard mode and Ultimate is Extra Hard. Dawg you're already playing the game on what's considered easy. Do an ultimate playthrough n see how really hard the game is.
Yeah ain’t no way my voice is deeper lol I’m 16 btw but my voice was deeper at 15
idk why he included this he glitches in the review when that sounds like a personal problem buddy😆 i can count on one hand how many glitches ive seen lol
That Howard thing didn’t have well huh 🤔 😅
The game is too short but its an amazing game. Hoped that there was atleast a DLC but what can i do. 🤣
What I didn’t like about the introduction was that Peter lost to rhino a person he/we already beat 😂
It was mainly due to being electrocuted that caused the defeat
Most of it did
Did you say sony along with spiderman?
I could make a list of stuff this guy labeled incorrectly or misspoke about…
Proofread your script and research the game you’re making your video on, please! 🙏
Am i the only one who thinks that the only good thing in Miles Morales was the Movement? Like the story is bad, combat is the same, side content is annoying, charakters are just bland and stupid.
Sorry bro, you are allowed to have an opinion I am sorry you didn’t got to be satisfied with the game like others did. But miles improved a lot that was negatively affecting spider-man ps4. You really said side missions are the same as the first game lol. Side missions are the biggest improvement. They are genuinely bittersweet side missions that makes you care about the people in the community. Spider-Man ps4 did nothing like that and I didn’t even care about any side characters unlike that Asian character in ESU.
This is my favourite SM game, but I hate the story
Yeah they could have done so much with miles other than this
Play on ultimate next video lmao
Good ahh video
I like the cringe. remind of the spider-man frin my childhood.
This is the equivalent of judging a three year olds life.
this is just a long way of saying i cant get a ps5 for spiderman 2. (i cant get one either)
I wanted to love it. But Phin is a terribly written and she REALLY dragged the game down.
Facts the story just did not hold for me. Phinn character was pretty damn obnoxious and miles was too much of a punching bag. The game is not bad but .....🤷7.8 out of 10
Well woke supporter good
Support woke go broke
I think the score of this game is ridiculous. It is the same songs with hip hop in the background. Sounds dumb imo
I despise the blm movement and the whole pride and lgbtq movement. To infuse these so fundamentally in the game is a crime in my opinion. Leave this crap out of our games. Back when the arkham series debuted these were nowhere to be seen in any of the games thankfully. People do what they want and I pray we can still get games that return to giving the players the best experience they can get and focus on the story rather than these dangerous political agendas. Also I hate gotham knights for this. Gotham has a whole district where pride flags are painted on the streets. Not to mention that in spiderman remastered pc there was a mod on nexus mods which removed the pride flag and nexus mods banned it because it counted as hateful content on the site. Fuck this I want my old games back.
bro who gives a fuck it's like a single thing on one part of the map not like it actually affects anything
Social and cultural representation does not take away from good storytelling, it's an entirely different subject. BLM and Pride are not dangerous movements, they help oppressed people feel safe.
@@thegamingknight2096 the thousands of shop owners who were robbed during riots would very much like to disagree with you. BLM is quite literally why some store chains are leaving cities in the states because they get robbed by BLM rioters.
@@thegamingknight2096 xdddd who the fuck opresses them? People do what they want but those people push their agendas in schools and they are actively trying to normalise this. I accept the fact that these people exist but don’t pretend that it’s normal. Men are men women are women. Leave the younger generation alone. I want to decide how I raise my children and I want these ideologies out of my games.
@@MonkeyyMann the main villain is a white evil man who wants money and there are no good guys (other than Pete) that are white. I’d call that racist and it’s disgusting. The whole blm movement turned into a group that hates white people and it’s a big fucking scam. These agendas are dangerous and the whole democrat side is a shitshow. Unfortunately this is the direction that the whole world is going towards cuz people want to be PC and everyone is afraid of speaking up cuz if they do people will call them racists fascists and homophobic. Disgusting the radical left should be eradicated. Fuck modern liberalism.
While i like the gameplay and snowy map i just done like the story. Phin was rly boring imo
Then you don't understand her character then.
@@BAT2000-n8p or imagine this pls: i just think phin was rly fcking boring🙌
@@florianfischer5593 Don't bother replying to me. I know you didn't study about Phins charcter enough.
That's a trait from leaving about Narratives in English
@@BAT2000-n8p ok cool but u ever heard of sonething called opinions? Theres nothing universally interesting in the world so people will differ in opinions. We differ in perspective of our opinion of phin. Easy as that mate
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